I personally think this is why self awareness and life skills should be taught in schools as early as 5th grade because people DONT take rejection well and rejection, struggles, trauma does happen and the less we are prepared the more it subconsciously and consciously affects our adult relationships we much continues the cycle of hurt people hurting people.
The point everyone is missing (the first part of the pod) is respect is respect! It doesn’t matter where you are who you’re out with, you still have to respect your relationship and your man/woman!
Going out of your way to put yourself in a predicament where your respect or trust can be questioned is a liability. Trust and respect is subjective and in most cases is only convenient on one side of the conversation. Fk that, i aint chillin with no shorties and she aint chillin with no n!@@as simple as that lol.
At this point id be lying if I said this ain't one of my favorite podcasts even though it's such a toxic relationship as a viewer 😂 but these marathon drops have been a blessing ☝️
Joe is probably the best gaslighter in history. He pulled so much out of Mel, bullshit or not with Ice facilitating the direction. Calling everything "trauma" without any further acknowledgement of anything else lol.
I think Mel the best gaslighter lol. Like when ice asked her why she entertained guys she don’t like. She only spoke to her noticing in real time that she did it. She never addressed why she did it. She makes it seem like other things are the problem and the guys show her how she be the problem. That’s when they call dog piling. Like Ice said earlier, it’s like you either agree with woman or you hate them. If you tell them why you think they’re wrong you’re man-explaining. It’s crazy lol, Joes the gaslighter?
Joe really is a spin master, he took what he was saying about his girl can't go hang out with a former lover turned friend because he would feel some type of way about it and spun it as him being concerned for her safety. 😂. And to answer the question no, no man or woman should be hanging out with a former lover. Like baby moms and dads have a different set of rules but just going to hang with a Ex by yourself is wild. If I was truly cool with a Ex I would invite her to meet my girl
26:45 Let me translate for Joe. It isn't that he doesn't trust his girl, doesn't know what the other man would do, fears for her safety, blah, blah, blah. It's called projection. In other words Joe knows the ninja he used to be, things he has done or could possibly (might) do, etc. -- and the thought that there might be another ninja out there like himself bothers him. So there goes all that pyscho analysis babble that Joe turns back on his girl. Nobody should be hanging out with an ex while in relationship. That goes for male or female. Once Joe pulled that reverse pyschology b.s. on his girl, she should forever be looking at him sideways. Joe basically wants to do what he wants but has double standards for his girlfriend 😂.
This whole episode felt like Joe was projecting his own inner struggles and trauma on 2 Melissa. Ice was the only one who actually had a sense of Mel was talking about.
Why do people not use their brains? Joe, Ice and Parks are in relationships, so how can you agree with the single person that is wanting a relationship? Has it not occurred to you that with all these 'controlling' men she is turning down, she somehow goes on dates with them (which means she is attracted to them) but finds some sort of problem with them. Melissa needs to turn the spotlight on her now and realise SHE is likely the problem. How can you not see this?
Melissa is either NOT honest with herself or she is simply lost. Rarely does anything she says make logical sense. She is hurt and too scared to risk being hurt more which leads her down a vicious cycle. She used to be one of the BADDEST... now she is old. If she don't stop being scared she will be alone forever. Women who have been single for too long often end up like that
50:38 y’all are speaking from fear. When someone makes me uncomfortable, I’m going to ask for clarity FIRST. To leave with your emotional assumptions of someone when the truth is so close to you is Crazy. You deserve clarity so you can find the partner you’re after.. 🙏🏾
Joe deadass be in therapy cause his takes and ability to talk to Mel when she's can't reel it in is masterclass. Constantly relating to the trauma influenced thinking and decisions is something you learn in therapy as part of your accountability. He aint no empath but he sure do take notes in his sessions lol.
Yeaaa ICE good shit today I take it back. You went in on Mel and didnt pander to her beauty. Good shit Mel for responding and not just making sounds tryna cute it off.
Absolutely one of my favorite Pods! Just all great topics from beginning to end. Love them all but the chemistry between the ones on the couch on this particular pod hit different. I will be saving this one to watch again.❤
When parks said yea an girls a buy a guy drink an be a bugaboo all night mel was surprised that the notion of a girl being thirsty for a man is actually possible 😭
Melissa said something in this that I've been saying for yearsssssssss!!!! Like is so much more important than love. And the example I'll forever use is that you have family members that you love off of the title alone but, you don't like them as a person at all!!! That shit is deep. I feel where Joe is coming from in the conversation though. Hella neutral.
Ahh this one shows that ice is the kool brother for Mel and Joe don’t go up x20 when the hole crew isn’t there. This was much comforting listening to them talk WITH Mel
You gotta let your girl be her. Permitting some potentially uncomfortable shit so that you can be permitted isnt tit-for-tat, its freedom-for-freedom! Stop clocking your adult partners like they're your kids
Joe was just debating to debate. One, everything isn’t trauma. Some things are just learning from your experiences and what you dislike. Two, even if it was trauma, that is also a tool to operate through life. Joe has trauma from different business dealings, but it would be foolish of him to not keep those experiences in mind when moving forward in business.
Mel seems to be more trauma because it prevents her from being open and trying (mel damn near 50yrs old, single with no kids). Joe had past trauma with his cohost but he rebuilt and kept it moving.
This pod was oddly refreshing. Mel taking feedback from Ice without being super defensive. Ish not getting loud trying "to win" stupid debates tjust beccause. Flip not screaming nonsense. This Ice, Parks, Mel, Joe chemistry is fire.
The whole part with Mel explaining her dating life drove me crazy. Joe clearly has trauma, but keeps trying to push it on Mel, because she is rightfully selective. He's had years of screwing up relationships, but is constantly dumping on her. This dude is crazy.
Joe is bad about saying a phrase and not explaining it. "I'm a man" could be taken like "I'm a man and I can do what I want" because that's what many women have heard. Thanks Ice, for adding the explanation that a woman is not likely to overpower a man. However, drinks get to flowing and things could go down...willingly...by a man or a woman. That's where built up trust and respect come in.
I love the JBP squad ❤ But we really need at least 2 women in a mans/crew convo, to have a fair debate when it comes to how men view things and how women view things bc there are double standards and that's on both sides! But in this particular podcast.....it's just Mel. Sometimes she be trippin, like they do....but other times she's on point, but the male perspective over powers her (a woman's) view bc they are different experiences.
This is so true. My son's father r**ed me in broad daylight. We had broken up we were college sweethearts but I caught him with someone else. Fast forward I went to the apartment we shared because I thought he would be in class because I need to get my things. But I was naive that I went by myself because I didn't fear him I just didn't want to see him. Well he showed up wanting to talk but I didn't so he took my head and slammed it to the wall and knocked me unconscious. All I remember is waking up to someone standing over me that I didn't know and I was bleeding and my head was pounding. I didn't know I was assaulted until later when I was in the hospital. Long story short ladies you really don't what people are capable of. So I agree with @Joe Budden it is not the same when ladies are in the presence of some men.
Dissecting Mel has been the theme of these episodes, and I’m here for it. It’s no hate at all it’s literally getting to the bottom of all the hiding and meandering around the bottom line of their points they try to make on the hypocrisy the fans of the show that don’t like Mel on the show also try to make. I never been a big ice fan for the show and definitely not a Mel fan but this definitely made me like them more, this Iconic 4 is fire 🫡🫡🫡
Ive never listened to a more contradicting person in my life than Mel got damn she talks in circles. She just doesn't want to admit she has problems herself and she's isnt single solely because of her options but she literally is the definition of wants their cake and eat it too. She thinks she smarter than she actually is. The intellectual man with an edge she says she wants is like ISH... but thats the guy she clashes with the most. She wants to control everything is overly emotional for the type of man she says she wants. Why would any guy like she described want to date her. They'd run the other way .
As a West Indian, it's hilarious hearing the Jouvert/Carnival take. There isn't a human on the planet that could keep me from participating in my culture. Date within your culture if you don't want to keep explaining what you regularly do.
@@mdotcom09 That's not at all what I'm speaking on. I'm not nor can I speak on the diluted Caribbean massive. They aren't my business. As someone enthralled in my culture from birth... no relationship is going to alter how I've literally lived the entirety of my life. I'm talking on the REAL Caribbean people dem. Not the "others" who want to put on a Carnival costume for fashion or whatever.
I hate it when they don’t admit when Mel has a point. Yall know the difference between day and night activities, that’s why yall prefer to go to the club AT NIGHT.
1:12:32 very fair. BUT settle is nuisance ( if you can’t win a championship but you can get MVP but consider that settling so you don’t play the season at all ) your probability not making THE BEST decision but I respect any and everyone’s personal life decisions
The crazy is Mel actually said some logic things about relationships. Why are they always flipping it like what she says is outrageous. Mel b having fire takes.
I knew this was going to be a great pod based upon the thumbnail but🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 I love the dive into Mel and toxic femininity PS men do need and want to be hugged even if we don't outwardly receive it well
With Melyssa and Ice on this !!! Love Joe but he's sounding off here ! If anyone ,Male or Female notices red flags ..Flee !! Thats Not Trauma ...its called being Wise and having learnt from past experiences ! ❤
Joe dont know what trauma is😂 I just hope Mel dont let him bring doubt in her way of going about things.. Mel is on different level when it comes to reading people
1:16:44 Joe is just disagreeing 2 disagree, now. U can define it as trauma or experience , but the fact remains that u can *WANT* the void filled without wanting 2 fill it with just *ANYTHING* . It almost seems 2 speak 2 Joe having some kinda trauma that he harps on Mel's decisions being based in trauma. He can't see it as someone just being diacerning about who they will allow in their space. But filling the void indiscriminately can lead 2 wide-ranging and far-reaching negative repercussions if the choice is made poorly, which only promises more *ACTUAL* trauma.
It’s hilarious to go back and forth between black beard ice and uncle ice. Lmao.
Thought it was just me 😂😂😂
It takes every ounce of energy and more, listening to Mel
She’s terrible and a bird
i mean dear lord it brings me actual pain plus the caping im like save me
I feel the same way about Ice
💯
Facts!
These 4 Are Very Wholesome Together. We Can’t Get These Moments With The Other 2 Here. AND THATS THE GENIUS OF JOE BUDDEN
I personally think this is why self awareness and life skills should be taught in schools as early as 5th grade because people DONT take rejection well and rejection, struggles, trauma does happen and the less we are prepared the more it subconsciously and consciously affects our adult relationships we much continues the cycle of hurt people hurting people.
The point everyone is missing (the first part of the pod) is respect is respect! It doesn’t matter where you are who you’re out with, you still have to respect your relationship and your man/woman!
Absolutely !!!! Respect and understanding why Not to do something !!
Going out of your way to put yourself in a predicament where your respect or trust can be questioned is a liability. Trust and respect is subjective and in most cases is only convenient on one side of the conversation. Fk that, i aint chillin with no shorties and she aint chillin with no n!@@as simple as that lol.
At this point id be lying if I said this ain't one of my favorite podcasts even though it's such a toxic relationship as a viewer 😂 but these marathon drops have been a blessing ☝️
Joe is probably the best gaslighter in history. He pulled so much out of Mel, bullshit or not with Ice facilitating the direction. Calling everything "trauma" without any further acknowledgement of anything else lol.
I think Mel the best gaslighter lol. Like when ice asked her why she entertained guys she don’t like. She only spoke to her noticing in real time that she did it. She never addressed why she did it. She makes it seem like other things are the problem and the guys show her how she be the problem. That’s when they call dog piling. Like Ice said earlier, it’s like you either agree with woman or you hate them. If you tell them why you think they’re wrong you’re man-explaining. It’s crazy lol, Joes the gaslighter?
@@LUCASGRAY-t5l not responding to the topic at hand? Making an excuse. Gaslighting
@@LUCASGRAY-t5l I call what Mel did gaslighting. You disagree. That’s peace
Joe really is a spin master, he took what he was saying about his girl can't go hang out with a former lover turned friend because he would feel some type of way about it and spun it as him being concerned for her safety. 😂. And to answer the question no, no man or woman should be hanging out with a former lover. Like baby moms and dads have a different set of rules but just going to hang with a Ex by yourself is wild. If I was truly cool with a Ex I would invite her to meet my girl
😂😂😂 that boy good
my chick cant even hang with her stepbrother tf you talking bout
lol facts he care about her safety but before that said he didn’t fall for the sharing locations for safety reasons … lol
Spot on
2:38 MEL’s RINGER IS MY ALARM TONE 😂😂😂😂😂
JOE, POST THE ONE W NICKI. THANK YOU!
Mel didn’t like how the guy she was dating held her accountable for her behavior so early & that triggered her 😂
Good chill pod. I enjoyed the convo
I'm with Ice.
Trauma is part of our experiences, and those are what shape our worldview. I'm not just going to disregard all nb I've been through.
But are you controlling /mindfull of biases? I think this the point Joe was trying to make. This often is a problem in recovering/dealing with trauma.
@@dendenm1 I'm good with my biases. Until experience proves them otherwise, they are my reference points.
26:45 Let me translate for Joe. It isn't that he doesn't trust his girl, doesn't know what the other man would do, fears for her safety, blah, blah, blah. It's called projection. In other words Joe knows the ninja he used to be, things he has done or could possibly (might) do, etc. -- and the thought that there might be another ninja out there like himself bothers him. So there goes all that pyscho analysis babble that Joe turns back on his girl. Nobody should be hanging out with an ex while in relationship. That goes for male or female. Once Joe pulled that reverse pyschology b.s. on his girl, she should forever be looking at him sideways. Joe basically wants to do what he wants but has double standards for his girlfriend 😂.
This whole episode felt like Joe was projecting his own inner struggles and trauma on 2 Melissa. Ice was the only one who actually had a sense of Mel was talking about.
Bingo
Not at all M4 needs therapy
Why do people not use their brains? Joe, Ice and Parks are in relationships, so how can you agree with the single person that is wanting a relationship?
Has it not occurred to you that with all these 'controlling' men she is turning down, she somehow goes on dates with them (which means she is attracted to them) but finds some sort of problem with them.
Melissa needs to turn the spotlight on her now and realise SHE is likely the problem.
How can you not see this?
Gotta disagree but women trauma bond all the time so no surprise I'm seeing it in the comments
Melissa is either NOT honest with herself or she is simply lost. Rarely does anything she says make logical sense. She is hurt and too scared to risk being hurt more which leads her down a vicious cycle. She used to be one of the BADDEST... now she is old. If she don't stop being scared she will be alone forever. Women who have been single for too long often end up like that
I ain’t gon hold you ICE carried this episode 🤙🏾
50:38 y’all are speaking from fear. When someone makes me uncomfortable, I’m going to ask for clarity FIRST. To leave with your emotional assumptions of someone when the truth is so close to you is Crazy. You deserve clarity so you can find the partner you’re after.. 🙏🏾
Joe deadass be in therapy cause his takes and ability to talk to Mel when she's can't reel it in is masterclass. Constantly relating to the trauma influenced thinking and decisions is something you learn in therapy as part of your accountability. He aint no empath but he sure do take notes in his sessions lol.
I know his therapist told him “I’m trying to get to a blank slate here”😭
He's doing "his work" through Mel 😂😂
That MF never sat and talked to nobody!
that mf Tony Soprano, those who get it get it
If Ice wasn't scared of the female smoke... He'd be an A1 podder. I can tell he has a strong male perspective that he's trying to hold back.
Can't be strong if he is holding back because of anyone, let alone females. I'm just saying 🤷🏾♂️
@@MIKEDAWGS00word up
@@MIKEDAWGS00facts.
Yup I’ve been notice that he’s just not as aggressive with it like Ish and Joe
Yeaaa ICE good shit today I take it back. You went in on Mel and didnt pander to her beauty. Good shit Mel for responding and not just making sounds tryna cute it off.
4th quarter pressure joe running the bag up
“My oldest sister is older than my mother” ITS ALL MAKING SENSE NOW
The line between leadership and control is called CONSENT
Can I hold this? This is the truth!!
Absolutely one of my favorite Pods! Just all great topics from beginning to end. Love them all but the chemistry between the ones on the couch on this particular pod hit different. I will be saving this one to watch again.❤
Mel always says a word that I have to Google in every episode😂😂😂😂 I love it!!!
Yes I could never descry the meaning without a diligent perusal via google. 😂
They be having the realest conversations on Patreon. I actually think it might be a better pod on Patreon.
I agree and I think they want it this way
@@Mac_Raymondwell that would be why you pay honestly
When parks said yea an girls a buy a guy drink an be a bugaboo all night mel was surprised that the notion of a girl being thirsty for a man is actually possible 😭
I know their final quarter numbers look crazy 😎
Melissa said something in this that I've been saying for yearsssssssss!!!! Like is so much more important than love. And the example I'll forever use is that you have family members that you love off of the title alone but, you don't like them as a person at all!!! That shit is deep. I feel where Joe is coming from in the conversation though. Hella neutral.
Great episode...Love hearing others life stories. Show us we're all from different walks of life and we're all human 😊
Could you at least put the date of the pod on these Patreon episodes?? ( I’m a Patreonie already, btw)👍🏿
If that was the case you wouldn’t have said that
Loved learning more about Melissa ❤
Ahh this one shows that ice is the kool brother for Mel and Joe don’t go up x20 when the hole crew isn’t there. This was much comforting listening to them talk WITH Mel
Flip would have been a perfect 5th man.
1:24:00 Joe chatting I think she described what a lot of peoples ideal relationship would be like
You gotta let your girl be her. Permitting some potentially uncomfortable shit so that you can be permitted isnt tit-for-tat, its freedom-for-freedom! Stop clocking your adult partners like they're your kids
47:31 LITERALLY THE DEFINITION OF TRAUMA 🤦🏾♂️
Dropping this today was perfect timing after the verdict for Jonathan Majors😭
Joe was just debating to debate. One, everything isn’t trauma. Some things are just learning from your experiences and what you dislike. Two, even if it was trauma, that is also a tool to operate through life. Joe has trauma from different business dealings, but it would be foolish of him to not keep those experiences in mind when moving forward in business.
Mel seems to be more trauma because it prevents her from being open and trying (mel damn near 50yrs old, single with no kids). Joe had past trauma with his cohost but he rebuilt and kept it moving.
Joe is the packer and the gang is the unpackers
Great pod per usual
Salute
There should be a Part 2 to this discussion with Esther Perel
"The car was flipped upside down, I just had to crawl out"
Ice: Cool 😎📱
This pod was oddly refreshing. Mel taking feedback from Ice without being super defensive. Ish not getting loud trying "to win" stupid debates tjust beccause. Flip not screaming nonsense. This Ice, Parks, Mel, Joe chemistry is fire.
good pod, glad your lady is alright ICE 🙏🏽
The whole part with Mel explaining her dating life drove me crazy. Joe clearly has trauma, but keeps trying to push it on Mel, because she is rightfully selective. He's had years of screwing up relationships, but is constantly dumping on her. This dude is crazy.
everybody be gassing mel up 😂😂 she must look better in person
Mel is not as stupid as you think, she is just catering to the egos
She 100% does.
Mel always the topic of discussion, get new topics
Joe is bad about saying a phrase and not explaining it. "I'm a man" could be taken like "I'm a man and I can do what I want" because that's what many women have heard. Thanks Ice, for adding the explanation that a woman is not likely to overpower a man. However, drinks get to flowing and things could go down...willingly...by a man or a woman. That's where built up trust and respect come in.
I love the JBP squad ❤ But we really need at least 2 women in a mans/crew convo, to have a fair debate when it comes to how men view things and how women view things bc there are double standards and that's on both sides! But in this particular podcast.....it's just Mel. Sometimes she be trippin, like they do....but other times she's on point, but the male perspective over powers her (a woman's) view bc they are different experiences.
Absolutely… she wins no battle!!!!
Boom🎯🎯🎯 U explained it better than I could. U right Mel b having good points but the male perspective takes over.
This is so true. My son's father r**ed me in broad daylight. We had broken up we were college sweethearts but I caught him with someone else. Fast forward I went to the apartment we shared because I thought he would be in class because I need to get my things. But I was naive that I went by myself because I didn't fear him I just didn't want to see him. Well he showed up wanting to talk but I didn't so he took my head and slammed it to the wall and knocked me unconscious. All I remember is waking up to someone standing over me that I didn't know and I was bleeding and my head was pounding. I didn't know I was assaulted until later when I was in the hospital. Long story short ladies you really don't what people are capable of. So I agree with @Joe Budden it is not the same when ladies are in the presence of some men.
Dissecting Mel has been the theme of these episodes, and I’m here for it. It’s no hate at all it’s literally getting to the bottom of all the hiding and meandering around the bottom line of their points they try to make on the hypocrisy the fans of the show that don’t like Mel on the show also try to make. I never been a big ice fan for the show and definitely not a Mel fan but this definitely made me like them more, this Iconic 4 is fire 🫡🫡🫡
Ive never listened to a more contradicting person in my life than Mel got damn she talks in circles. She just doesn't want to admit she has problems herself and she's isnt single solely because of her options but she literally is the definition of wants their cake and eat it too. She thinks she smarter than she actually is. The intellectual man with an edge she says she wants is like ISH... but thats the guy she clashes with the most. She wants to control everything is overly emotional for the type of man she says she wants. Why would any guy like she described want to date her. They'd run the other way .
Word get her off the pod
@newage3334 it's all looks 4 her she cant even verbalize her own perspective
😂😂 that's her to a T lol she is so confused and confusing my goodness
Frfr lmao
Scorpio vibes
As a West Indian, it's hilarious hearing the Jouvert/Carnival take.
There isn't a human on the planet that could keep me from participating in my culture. Date within your culture if you don't want to keep explaining what you regularly do.
💯
if you wasn't doing anything dealing with your "culture" until it just so happens to be in proximity... you wasn't really fucking with it...
@@mdotcom09 That's not at all what I'm speaking on. I'm not nor can I speak on the diluted Caribbean massive. They aren't my business.
As someone enthralled in my culture from birth... no relationship is going to alter how I've literally lived the entirety of my life. I'm talking on the REAL Caribbean people dem. Not the "others" who want to put on a Carnival costume for fashion or whatever.
This was a Fire episode 🔥they all put on a good performance n it had everything in it! 💯
Mel’s T-Shirt in this episode is 🔥
I hate it when they don’t admit when Mel has a point. Yall know the difference between day and night activities, that’s why yall prefer to go to the club AT NIGHT.
It’s a good thing Mel is so soft spoken because another woman would shut Joe down every time and be let go for being “aggressive “
Who wants to deal with that shit? Any job, someone "aggressive" would be fired.
1:12:32 very fair. BUT settle is nuisance ( if you can’t win a championship but you can get MVP but consider that settling so you don’t play the season at all ) your probability not making THE BEST decision but I respect any and everyone’s personal life decisions
Joe said “I’m a man”like he was about to say something profound 😂😂😂
I can actually say, this was a good pod. Ice finally got to cook, and be heard. Let him speak Joe, stop stepping on his opinions
Good episode guys
Joe Was Cookin During The Trauma Topic…💯
This is obviously from when it was hot out. Im here for it though😂❤
Melyssa 50 fam it’s a wrap ! 😂😂😂 She pure entertainment
1:15:08 - 1:15:40 Ice dropping gems. This is why it's best to find someone early & settle down. As you get older you get picky
Drop pods like migos use to drop mixtapes 🔥🔥🔥
this look on mel was fire
Good control in a relationship
Is called LEADERSHIP!!
I'll call it, "The Nappy DugOut" before I call it Vageen 😂😂😂
I wish ish was here for this topic... He would've been super 🔥🔥🔥. But joe was 🔥🔥🔥 he was absolutely right in my opinion.
Ice with the pause when asked would he stay in his relationship if he hit the 364 million 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sending love 🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤
To the Pod Crew
💯💯💯
Seeing Ice beard from this pod to the latest pods…hahahahahahahahaha
The crazy is Mel actually said some logic things about relationships. Why are they always flipping it like what she says is outrageous. Mel b having fire takes.
I understand Mel.
Mel dropped some gems on her journey to explaining
Mel will be single for life 😂
You know what, youre right. Heres a question, who created red flags?
I see why you put this 1 towards end of the yr 😂
Didn't they make a movie about that called Orphan? 1:56:04
This man asked why and answered the question everytime. Accountability is cryptonite forreal, just be honest it's simple!
Go Play "I'm a Man" by Chicago in Tanglewood to keep the Pod Vibe Movin....
Nah Parks gotta upgrade the wife Honda to a 2020 at least 😂😂😂
45:54 the trauma so real she can see the future😳
soon its going to be only parks and joe on these episodes lol
Please dropped bitch box for Christmas 🤣🤣
That one’s going viral when it does drop
I thought it already did
@@aj2468 not on RUclips
Joe funny af .
I’m now a fan of Melyssa.
Big up Oni with the seriously creative dis track dedicated to Coverboy! 👌🏿
I knew this was going to be a great pod based upon the thumbnail but🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
I love the dive into Mel and toxic femininity
PS men do need and want to be hugged even if we don't outwardly receive it well
Sometimes I hate that I am not able to weigh in on the some of the topics discussed on the pod. Great topics this pod
Ice cooked this episode, stepped up big time.
Def didn’t expect Mel to be as goofy as she comes off as 😮💨 Old and Hurtin
Parks is glowing ,looking like a healthy Muesli snack 😅
i love this pod
With Melyssa and Ice on this !!! Love Joe but he's sounding off here ! If anyone ,Male or Female notices red flags ..Flee !! Thats Not Trauma ...its called being Wise and having learnt from past experiences ! ❤
One of my favorite episodes
Why
dats hate
Deff Hate lmao. I’m just seeing this
Joe dont know what trauma is😂 I just hope Mel dont let him bring doubt in her way of going about things.. Mel is on different level when it comes to reading people
It’s been a while since I’ve seen a woman admit to being an issue in their past failed relationships..
When winter hits Burlington still be coming with the Coats! 😂
1:16:44 Joe is just disagreeing 2 disagree, now. U can define it as trauma or experience , but the fact remains that u can *WANT* the void filled without wanting 2 fill it with just *ANYTHING* . It almost seems 2 speak 2 Joe having some kinda trauma that he harps on Mel's decisions being based in trauma. He can't see it as someone just being diacerning about who they will allow in their space.
But filling the void indiscriminately can lead 2 wide-ranging and far-reaching negative repercussions if the choice is made poorly, which only promises more *ACTUAL* trauma.
Ice talking about randomly getting emotional about makes me feel good that I'm not the only one
Mel is glowing 💐