The Future of Stellantis is Electric - EV Day Recap (Jeep, Dodge, Ram, Opel, Peugeot, & More!)
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2021
- Today we are doing a full recap of the Stellantis EV (Electric Vehicle) day, which took place last Thursday July 8th, 2021. This event gave us a much deeper look at what exactly the French-Italian-American automaker has planned going forward in the next decade. They are investing $35.6 Billion Dollars (USD) within the next 5 years in this new technology for all 14 of their brands, from Dodge to Opel to Ram Trucks.
They have the goal of having 70% of European Sales and 40% of US sales being Low Emissions Vehicles by 2030, a far cry from 2021, where just 14% of EU sales and 4% of US sales are LEVs. Watch along as we cover the Brands, the Technology, the Ecosystems, and the Financials. ________________________________________________________________
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Yeah, that's nice. Until they get charging stations out into rural areas, have long-range batteries and fast charging that can compete with gasoline, I don't see this stuff being a realistic takeover of all-electric. I think Hybrid should be the focus right now, as it allows the best of both worlds- convenience of gasoline fill-ups and existing infrastructure to alleviate range anxiety, while also decreasing emissions and consumption.
Also, I seriously worry about the second hand market when all/most new cars are electric, and then have major battery issues 10 years into their life and are totaled out by major repair costs. I hope people like ponying up to buy a full priced new car, that's even more disposable than what we have now...
From what I have read, for a Tesla S, a complete new battery change is between 13,000 - 14,000 dollars. Their warranty is 8 years and from 100k to unlimited miles.
So at 10 years or maybe 150k miles (possibly) plan on 14k for replacement batteries. What do you think a 10 yo well used EV will be worth, especially knowing you must have 14k, in cash, setting there. Unlike a fuel engine where if you maintain it 250k plus is not hard to achieve.
Yeah this is the achilles heel of EVs. Tesla did the right thing building their own infrastructure before the cars became a thing, it still has a ton of gaps in less frequented areas and that's where EVs can never compete against ICE.
In Germany they are forcing people to go electric but haven't even built a good network even though the country is so small. They want to ban ICE by iirc 2035 and the charging infrastructure in cities isn't even done yet and half of them is always broken. They expect people to charge at home which is impossible for the majority. The way they are going is stupid and contraproductive. If they actually gave synthetic fuels a chance too we could reach our goal quicker instead of forcing our way into a cleaner world no matter the consequences. EVs aren't the savior of humanity, we will never have enough resources to bvuild batteries to power our world. But hey let's put CO2 taxes on fuel since people can't evade to EVs anyway because they don't have 30k just lying around and a plug to charge their vehicles while not taxing EV owners.
Using ALL ALTERNATIVES is the key to success.
@@Enforcer_WJDE completely agree about synthetic fuels and let’s be honest can the different electric grids in the world handle everyone having an EV? Does everyone going with an EV actually solve the climate crisis when all it will do is centralize the problem to where ever the electricity is produced so it will just make the problem worse?
Also farmers will not comply with EV mandates. They can’t. They have to run on diesel. If they have to wait for a vehicle to charge they lose money while they wait.
@@Enforcer_WJDE yep, that's the EU for you, the new socialistic republic of Europe. Makes me wonder why we sacrificed a bunch of our troops in 2 world wars last century to bail their asses out.
@@Enforcer_WJDE Synthetic fuels require too large amount of energy to produce, same with hydrogen. Hydrogen can be used as energy storage and in planes, but rather not in cars (to produce hydrogen during summer with high amount of energy from solar panels, and later in winter you can produce electricity from that hydrogen)
Oh he got that 100k subscribers!!!!😃😃😃
Can’t believe we’ve finally hit it!! 🙏🏼
@@MarspeedCars congratulations!!!😃😃😃
@@MarspeedCars Congratulations!
An all EV future scares the living shit out of me.
My thoughts exactly
As an electrical power engineering, i don't see our nations electrical grid or generating infrastructure supporting large scale vehicle charging. And if you think wind and solar generation is going to take over, you're crazy.
There is no driving experience when driving an electric car…
Agreed
I drove several EVs as driver and passenger -> I totally agree
@@rabbidcrazy787 You just press the power button and hold the gas pedal or power pedal I don’t even know what you call it… but that’s it no heart or soul to the car…
if you are a grandpa with knee pain (arthrosis) then an EV is a comfortable car to drive. You just need one leg to drive them.
@@PaulTC777 I have RA. I'd rather have a gas car.
Hard pass, Stellantis.
This is so depressing. Dodge was supposed to be the one we could count on to respect and build true, pure muscle cars. Now they've fallen just like the rest. While Ford and Chevy ran around doing things like this, Dodge was the one giving zero fucks, building the Demon and shoving a Hellcat under any hood they an fit it in.
Yes Dodge, you're selling electric cars. If this is the future, I'll stay in the past. There's much more to cars than speed or horsepower. Electric cars lack almost everything I love about cars. I guess I'll always have the past 100 years worth of cars to keep me busy until I die. 😔
Oh please. If they want to survive they have to make changes
@@Darclover82 Why not hydrogen, synthetic fuel or do what Koenigsegg is doing which is volcanic fuel
@@rabbidcrazy787 you tell me. I’ve went all electric ⚡️ everything and I haven’t had any problems. Two EVs Tesla and Kia Soul ev. All electric power tools lawn mowers solar panels on my house. I’ve saved money on every single one and I don’t deal with unnecessary maintenance.
@@Darclover82 Well they won't be surviving in my garage.
@@VampireKa1n well your only one person. Your choice is yours. Don’t think they company will go under cause you walked away.
Congratulations on 100k subs!🎉 also I'm not excited about EVs but that's what's going to come.
Congratulations on 100k subscribers. Keep up the great work.
Congratulations on 100,000 subs 👏👏🎊🎉
Great video as always. I retired from the Brampton plant 3 years ago and love watching your channel to keep informed on the company going forward.
Good job on 100k. Enjoying your channel!
Not a big fan of Stellantis forcing electric on the consumers smh
It's not just Stellantis, all auto makers will end up doing the same thing. They are all under extreme pressure from most countries to lower their emissions. The days are numbered for fossil fuel powered vehicles.
@@delawarebratboi well the thing is, that the battery supply/materials are hard to come by also so it just confuses me - why not just have half and half?
Same
@@delawarebratboi EVs should be numbered
Noone's forcing you to do anything. If you don't want it, don't buy it.
Congrats on 100K Subscribers 🥳. Love your content and how you describe it. And your voice is kinda like a news reporter voice, i like it. And off topic but when FCA/Stellantis said they would fund the brands for 10 Years. I sadly think that maserati and alfa romeo may go. Love their vehicles but they just sell horribly. And another off topic but i really want poegot or whatever to the U.S that 508 looks sooo nice, but since its FCA they will probably pair it with a 2K Destination charge. Oh well
Hey brother, congratulations on a huge milestone, 100k is pretty serious.
I personally love my rumble but for Mopar to survive it must stay on the cutting edge in development. The one thing I do know is you can make EVs extremely fast. I fully trust that Mopar will be at the front of performance.
Congrats on 100K subs Mr. Marspeed!!
Oh yes, > Congrats Marspeed, again: I always love your show!
Great video as usual!
Will be nice when your electric jeep runs out of power when your on the trail.
You can plug in your solar powered charger and wait 5 days for a 10% charge. Ha ha.
or catches fire in the desert
Or your electric ram runs out while towing something.
@@boyanrushkov1755 sadly you will probably need to tow a generator for backup charging power.
Congrats on over 100k subs!
As long as there will be at least one hemi (5,7/6,4/6,2) Option, i dont care what, i want.
When its a Hybrid option, i would totally buy it, Mpg like a electric, Performance and feeling like the old ice it is
I'm very excited for this.
From what im seeing so far, Stellantis knows what they are doing.
Calif has rolling blackouts. I’m hearing radio commercials in NC asking people to not use appliances during peak hours. The grid can’t handle everyone going electric now and it will still be a mess 25 ywara from now.
Congrats on the big milestone! Hopefully more people watch your content and subscribe more
Those opels look pretty cool
Yeah I like some of the Peugeots too in terms of exterior styling!
@@MarspeedCars Peugeots are absolute beasts engineering wise too but with Diesel engines! I hope Diesel won't go extinct since it has the best mileage and good torque. Diesel engines also last twice as long as gas. Wish you Americans could experience them too.
@@MarspeedCars will peugeots and Opel make a return to the us?
My husband is excited. I'm worried. Coming from a proud owner of a 2017 Ram 1500 and 2019 Dodge Challenger
Hold on to those cars as long as possible
Don’t forget that Fiats, Chryslers and Dodges electricals and electronics fail prematurely as opposed to Japanese brands. Thats not something you would want in an all electric Fiat
Well at least EVs have less parts that can fail.....most Fiats i heard of had engine failures....
They got bought by PSA, so it'll all be French cars from now on.
Can't wait for this eMuscle to kick off. Just no fake noises please.
Oh and congratulations on the 100K subs
Sad
@@rabbidcrazy787 Cheer up mate
From what we heard in the teaser, there was plenty of induction noise
The Electric Ram that can realistically replace my Cummins to tow my 5th wheel is going to have to one fantastic recharge rate.
Great video!! I only have one question, where are all the Watts going to come from to charge these cars?
The electric grid can't handle it.
Taxpayer dollars, where else?
Very Interesting !
The Future of Stellantis is Bankrupt.
How so?
The electric technology will evolve to be ubiquitous so that styling and interior design features will differentiate the cars. Internally most EVs will resemble each other and likely depend upon supply sources from a relatively short list of high quality/low cost manufacturers. The manufacturers which can derive the lowest costs will gain market share and others are likely to go bankrupt. Tesla may have a cool autopilot, but likely the future highways will incorporate sensors and telemetrics to assist self driving vehicles, eg. traffic signs may broadcast the speed limit and traffic signs may export the "time-until-red", or "vehicle approaching intersection is not stopping". The standardization will lead to the commoditization of autonomous driving technology so that an inexpensive Kia will have will be as smart as a Tesla - or whatever are the premium brands. Look at the commoditization of internet and phone enabled home security systems as an example of how Tesla's tech might not matter anymore.
5:34 "More fun to drive" lol
For a small car, yes
@@kowalskidiazdegeras9190 Debatable
@@epik_robie1709 when you have a pityful 60 hp small car and some mountainous zone to cross, I'd prefer an electric powertrain rather than struggling with a gasoline one (specially when carrying some load)
@@kowalskidiazdegeras9190 Although I'm American car fan, I've driven some small Japanese ICE city cars (unavailable in America and not Kei type) like the Honda Logo or Nissan Micra and with about 1.3 ICE they are economic and quite fun cars to drive because they are light not having much trouble in the mountains, but they definitely not sport cars...just from my experience.
WOOOOOOOO 100K!!!!!
This is all well and good. But can someone tell how long it takes to fully charge the batteries after driving them to less then 10%. Can you drive 400 miles charge the batteries for 10 to 15 minutes and drive another 400 miles.
You should do a history, flaws and why it got cancelled for an Opel, Citroen, or Peugeot model
Interesting video
No word about a new product for Chrysler. I guess Chrysler is on the way out
They showed off an unnamed concept: www.autoblog.com/2021/07/08/chrysler-mystery-ev-tease/
Not according to Carlos Tavares. I would like to see re-badge engineered DS Automobiles or Peugeot models as Chrysler's, at least to get them by until the mess the FCA Scumbags caused for the Brand.
@@jamesmyers9285 ew anything from psa is garbage. they should make a rebadged wagoneer for chrysler or a rebadged durango
@@mikeford9213 All of FCAs cars are being replaced by PSA-based cars. If you don't like PSA, you don't like Stellantis.
Uh oh I don't see Chrysler in the title
Haven’t heard anything about them in a while
@@chezzyperson3339 Let's hope!
Since they now sell a version of the Pacifica as the "Dodge Caravan", to go run can close down Chrysler whenever they like.
@@quixomega The Chrysler Pacifica has now taken second place to the KIA Carnival which is stunning to say the least. FCA has done nothing for Chrysler and/or Dodge except build a bunch of high performance cars most people cannot afford. FCA are LOSER Marchionne Puppets!
😄👉🏼 imagine at a drag strip with electric muscle cars
Great content as always (the video). As per Stellantis' slideshows and cool pictures - for this specific moment it just a plans that have to be sold to investors to accumulate more money. The Jeep fantasy is too sweet. They took '69 Charger, rendered in a-la-Tron style, and added the front and rear burnouts. Just being skeptical, not hater. Would prefer to see hybrids being able to utilize V8 and electric motors rather than completely EV.
It's going to be HELL trying to PCS state side... Let's say your station at Fort Drum and get tired of freezing. Somehow you pick up Fort Irwin (idk why you would want to live in hell). And your set on wanting to drive to your next duty station. That's a lot of stopping and waiting on a charge lmao
Wow!
I’m hoping dodge makes 1000-1500hp EV Hellcat, it could be a great Tesla competitor, Tesla is uncontested in performance EV market
Never knew Opel was part of it this as well
I trust PSA' Carlos Tavares far more than I do anybody at FCA! The latter, more specifically under Sergio Marchionne continually lied about new product, new drivetrains for Chrysler/Dodge Brands. I will buy a Hybrid next time around, all EV very unlikely, although I really doubt Peugeot/Citroen and/or DS Automobiles will make to our shores, I would kill for a Peugeot 508 Wagon!
Congratulations on hitting 100,000 subscribers!
good video on ev cars
I'm all for it. I'm worried that people without homes in which they cant have a charging station such as rental properties campers etc just won't be able to own one because of this. Until these "charge stations" are every where it just doesn't seem possible. Eventually though and that will be an exciting time for sure.
Tbh I’m looking forward to an EV muscle car but I still want to keep at least 2 Hemi V8’s in my garage until I die lol
They might phase them out like they did the manual transmissions
Very interesting................................. 🤔
Journey replacement ?
I am worried because been from Australia we have very little charger stations, our population is along coast of east but most country communities are spread out some of range of battles wouldn’t be able to travel, we haven’t got power stations to run these charge stations n small car/truck market to justify. Only real turn solution is Hybrid model for Australia, Australia is behind in emissions I think Euro 4 becoming 5 next year? It’s good I can get brand new CaseIH tractor without Adblue.
I read that an electric car has 129 less parts than that WITH an internal combustion engine (ICE). That's 129 less parts to fail and be replaced. Standardization of batteries is the next step like AA,AAA, D, etc.
It’s up to the people to not buy these EVs… so they make more V8 vehicles
That’s pretty un realistic but e for effort
@@heroforhire6921 watch it happen.
@@heroforhire6921 high first cost, short range, and expensive battery replacement at end of life will keep the sales numbers low.
I wish Stellantis would give more info about what they have planned for Chrysler’s future. I LOVE my Chrysler and would happily buy another one in the next couple years; however I would like more options than a discontinued 200, a slightly outdated 300, or a minivan (although it does look great). Haha
Just buy a Jeep or Dodge, the name on the hood is meaningless.
Yes, but it’s not about what’s on the hood. The interior is everything, and Chrysler’s are usually more premium inside
I see Jeep really benefiting from going full Electric especially with the outdoor type people that they Market to from mountain bikers to overlanders
...YIKES
What about alfa?
Electric cars have to be charged so what is generating the electricity. The bi product in manufacturing of batteries needs to be looked at and accidents where battery is comprised who cleans the hazardous mess?
I do wish that we could get some of the beautiful colors shown on the European makes! I'm so sick of having only dark red, white, black, and three intermediate shades of gray for most mid-size and larger vehicles from FCA USA. What the hell are they thinking in Auburn Hills? The pity is that the newest larger Jeep models are still stuck with the same damnable colors!
Volvo strategy with Polestar is much better
15 years from now modifying your muscle car will be swapping stock parts for lighter weight 3D printed parts to up the EV performance. Adding power will be w thing of the past soon
I think you're off by decades. If you think that even a significant fraction of the population will have gotten rid of their 15 year old cars in that short of a timeframe you don't know how the other half lives. It will take many decades for gas engines to phase out, as people finally give up their old gas powered beaters and reliable budget electric cars become a thing. Go to any low income housing area and tell me how many 20 year old cars you see. Tons of them. This isn't going to change, in 2040 you'll see tons of ~2021 year model gas powered cars driving around in those same areas.
Today's electric cars won't be tomorrow's cheap used cars either because they're mostly all high end vehicles requiring high end maintenance bills. In other words, a poverty stricken family won't be buying a 2021 Tesla in 2036 because even if they're still on the road the cost of repairing it will be too high for them to afford. Automakers like Hyundai and Ford seem to be stepping up to the plate and offering lower priced options, but reliability (especially long-term) remains to be seen.
You'll probably see most affluent and middle class families switch to electric within 20-25 years or so, but that's definitely not going to stop the low income and younger population from driving, modifying and enjoying their gas powered cars.
I doubt that. ICE cars arent going anywhere. Our hobby is strong, and I expect it to stay that way for at least the next 20 to 30 years.
@@jokerzwild00 Im middle class, and I wont be switching. Im hoarding parts so I can keep them going for another 30 years. Also, noone in my area knows how to msintain electric cars. Even the dealers can barely do it.
@@jokerzwild00 sure
I wonder if they can get three electric motors in like Tesla did with Plaid. They need it if they wanna beat Tesla.
Marspeed: Contrats!
But, here is what I have concerns with for EVs. Remember the big storm last year that crippled power in the southern Midwest of the US? No solar power. No wind power. Limited power from coal plants cause we are too stupid to build any, or allow any. Just think of the cold, cold batteries in our wonderful EVs with the brownout hitting the charging stations. Can't wait!! Don't forget, the EPA won't allow a fire to keep warm because it will change the climate, so freeze to death with me in our great EV. Some of the rest of the time it will be not so bad - as long as the infrastructure is taxed out of us.
8:15 dodge charger redesign???👀
So glad to see that Dodge Delta return; maybe now they can do away with that silly pause button. I'm glad that our children and their children's future has caught Stellantis' radar, too. I just hope that our North American brands are intact; even if Chrysler begins to sell rebadged Peugeots and Dodge uses Alfa's Giorgio platform for new future cars. 🔼!
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The minute dodge goes and makes their vehicles EVs watch their sales drop like non other, because their popularity is with the people who don’t want big ICEs to die
I bet dodge could get a lot more power out of their engines if they fiddled with the FreeValve valve train set up from Konnigsegg
Nice job with the wishful thinking and optimistic Outlook. But these Italian companies never understood the American market and they never will. They're going to kill all of the things that are leftovers from the Dodge era and replace them with things that Americans don't want. No wonder Jeep it's such a good selling SUV and Italy because it's a a freaking Fiat.
Nice
I will miss the HEMI ROAR
9:48 Don’t you love it how that map excludes German speaking countries. I mean come on.
What about chrysler
No announcements but they showed off a concept car.
Nothing from chrysler going electric? Or are they just gonna copy dodge setup?
I wouldn't be surprised if they don't shutter Chrysler.
I still think fuel cell is a better way To go
I’m a challenger guy, but I hope it looks like the hellephant or something similar to the 68-70 charger. I don’t know how much it costs, but I can’t afford it for sure.
They can never make cars that look like the old ones lol pedestrian safety laws prevent that Thats why all modern cars look pretty much the same
What’s the point of having so many different electronic cars ?? Lol are the brands going to be this different?
Lofty Dreams . . . Good luck with that ! I'm not buying into all the electric hype.
Battery technology is not there yet.
Maybe the day I can charge the battery as fast as filling a tank of fuel . . . ANYWHERE . . . then maybe . . . maybe.
As others have said, HYBRIDS it's the solution at the moment before battery technology gets to be comparable to filling a fuel tank.
Reup?
2024 is the also gonna break the record of the worst sales in dodge history and the most grown men to cry in one day.
I'm willing to give this electric thing a chance, while still preserving the internal combustion option for those of us who aren't going to have a charging station within 100 miles. However, everybody talking about it needs to get over the initials that they now use for everything that mean NOTHING to us real folks. What we have now is total double-talk and failure to communicate.
OH! So exciting!! NOT they are so behind everyone get with it
Appliance performance. Screw that.
Who's building all the required powerplants? Anybody calculated the draw of a 5-10 million of these EV's getting charged in one country? Man, are we lucky that China is currently building another 184 COAL FIRED power plants. This all makes sense to me - NOT.
I dont see how tgese are more effiencent, batterlife is typically8-10 years at most if the car is off warrenty the battery cost would total the car. This is all a cash grab to shorten the life of cars. My grandfather has an all original 1950 chrysler that runs and drives and is still in great shape i doubt there will be any of this on the road in 70yrs
You seen the graveyards around Paris of their electric taxis who's batteries have given up?
Costs too much to replace, costs too much to recycle due to how toxic they are, so they're just left sitting in fields.
I'm going to keep mainting my old gas guzzlers, ta
Hope you all realize Mantra and the EV Dodge are probably the same auto. It would be dumb to do a Dodge only project even if only a reskin. A muscular Dodge design would jolt Opel
I don't think people who have bought Dodge muscles will ship into EVs, but not a worthless effort. While offering pure muscles side by side as much as possible, they can offer eMuscle for those who were sick of some EVs like Tesla. Or, Dodge dude's family car that shares garage with for-hobby HEMI V8s.
Actually, I like the whole Electric Dealio BUT I personally Can't afford an 80k Dollar truck To help the environment While Id like to it just is to far fetched For most people But us Rural people aren't in a positon to buy an electric vehicle Lol
Hybrid muscle would be better
the death of mopar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Weatherman: Prepare for the hurricane to bring mass flooding
Electric vehicle ppl. Welp can't charge in a flood. Can't have water get inside my car, can't do anything like a normal human being.
Straight sheep
What a big e-BS slogans meaning quite nothing than e-PR, I think I've already heard similar promising BS from the Italians before and endet mostly in stupid brandgeneering...quite so far big mouth only, but let's wait for the "magnified" results...
Screw anything EV! They are nothing more than Overpriced, overengineered, and overhyped appliances. Once all of this tech bricks or becomes obsolete (and it will), thus rendering the vehicle a lawn ornament, then what? Drop another mortgage and just remain endlessly in debt? Not me ever. I choose to be financially responsible and maintain my '95 Concorde and '97 Ram to be reliable dailies. For as long as parts are available, I will proudly rock both. At the end of the day, there's not a thing on either that will become obsolete or I can't repair or have repaired. I'm still happy remaining debt free, having dirt cheap taxes, cheap (for SC) insurance.
Call me a dinosaur if you wish, but I'll take a well maintained 1st gen Neon everyday over anything that's on the market now or will be in the future. Fact!
Electric? Keep that crap in Europe. America and Australia are too big to have such low range cars.
Electric cars go….. and suck combustion car go VROOM VROOM BOOM POW VTEC
Now i really wanna slam Stellantis for this ev crap.. They are making a big mistake on going EVs
They have no option anymore in Europe, they're making gas cars illegal.
It’s so gross to me what these conglomerations are doing to automobiles. WTH wants a self-driving EV? It’s being forced on the consumer so slyly that no one will care enough to harm them (the company). Disposable everything, that doesn’t scream “I care about the environment” to me.. it’s all about the money for the company and control for the government.
Battery production is environmental disaster. EVs require 100 times more water to put a car fire out, Evs currently run on coal fired electrical plants.
I mean supply-and-demand my guy if people want electric cars people want electric cars at the end of day remember Earth would Thrive without humans
EVs run predominantly coal and natural gas powered. People do not understand this concept.
Autonomous off-roading
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
gib us v2 charger with 20k msrp
Can’t wait to see law enforcement buy these electric ⚡️ cars plus they have to keep up with modern times. So dodge will make a profit off law enforcements
This Tech is not at all Clean, When getting the Materials to make the batteries, it has a large impact on the environment to get these materials out of the earth and cause a lot of contamination.
Also What about the People who use their Vehicles for work and need constant power out of a Motor with only a 7 minute down time to refuel their Trucks.
I know there aren't that many charging stations in the the United States to serve the people with these trucks that use them for working or Commercial Work.
Unlike Gas Stations which is everywhere, the Electric Charging States are not available in all areas like Gas Stations.
Also look at the impact on the Aging Electrical Grid, I believe that system cannot keep up with the power demand, Already California has a Electrical Problem with many Brownouts in various place in that state.
For now, I will stick with my Gas Powered Cars and Trucks, Just to be safe.
Just for Giggles,
What if there is a solar Mass Ejection from that Sun and wipe out power across the States or several States, how can you charge your car, you are totally Stranded and $hit out of luck if the power systems fail...