Ive had 3 vehicles with the 3.6L Pentastar. Never a single issue with any of them. Ive always done 5000 mile oil and filter changes on them. Fantastic engine!
The first thing I did to insure I would not have internal issues was to remove the Pennzoil and put in my tried and trusted Valvoline. Change the oil on 7K mile intervals and we have had absolutely no issues. We actually were asked at the dealership we have had service it what we have done to keep the typical 3.6 noise down. All I can say is those who know use Valvoline.
@@rustyrussell901 I would think that the owner of an expensive Pentastar engine could afford synthetic Walmart oil and filter every 3000 miles at $19.00 for a 5 quart jug. It would be pretty cheap insurance.
@@DUCKSAREEVILLLLLLLL Exactly, and the Walmart oil is no different and no less quality than the others. They have another brand put in Walmart bottles. The duty ratings of the oil are the same no matter who made it.
Do you want to triple the life of valve springs, rocker arms, camshafts, bearings any lubricated parts Pro Blend 1600 it's amazing , you add it to your oil of choice.
Work on the Pentastar everyday. The head and rocker arm issues are 100% accurate but the vehicle's affected are pretty low. Enough so that we purchased a 3.6 in my wife's car. For the most part they run great and have great power.
@asdad asdasd the trans does the same thing in my ‘15 GC it usually happens when i first drive the car for the day, if the trans is warmed up & it still does that. You might need to get it serviced
If you miss an oil change on these series of engine, they wear out. The magnetic ring on the cam shafts pack up with metal debris, and foul out the sensor. I never let my dad go passed 40%life of oil. He did it once, and it cost him $3500 in upper head and timing work, and his trans was always clunky and just got replaced. He has a 2016 Ram 3.6 with the locking 4x4.
As a Technician who repairs most brands, I have seen a few with worn rocker arms and some of the plastic cooling system components fail but they mostly all have problems with the use of plastic components. Compared to some of the engines today I would say that the 3.6 engine is above average for reliability.
Maybe compared to a Ford 5.4 three valve but I see Chrysler engines in the shop for major repairs long before 100k miles which in this day and age is unacceptable. And I’m not even a mechanic but almost without fail these Chrysler’s just start falling apart waaayyy to early. Bad rocker arms? Bad valve lifters? C’mon, man that’s just cheap parts right there Cheers
@@tomdavis3038 ..Toyota makes crap engines with major flaws as does Honda,VW,Hyundai,Ford and GM...they ALL have issues!!!!!! Now electric cars even have major issues,failing batteries/no drive range etc.... Chrysler mainly uses the 3.6 and 5.7 Hemi they make over a million per year or each engine and of course with 99% of your fleet is the Pentastar and Hemi you will have people and issues..Overall they are strong,reliable engines... Remember Toyota makes crap engines and they did since the 1970's..I know!!! Car dealer owner today,and I worked at a Toyota dealer back in the 1990's(I worked in the body shop but knew and helped out mechanics when needed/I work on cars/engines all the time)..Today Toyota has burning oil/bad piston rings that destroy the engines and Toyota cant make 50,000 miles without a rebuild!
Biggest majority of 3.6s I've dealt with were oil cooler issues. Our shop always replaces them with the aluminum unit since most of them seem to start leaking from the seal between the plastic housing and the aluminum cooling block. Ford had a similar issue in the v6 engines and the plastic thermostat housings that would warp and lose their seal. I think in the past 3 years I've had 2 3.6s come in with rocker arm failures. I've yet to have one with a cylinder head failure. I've lost count on how many oil coolers I've replaced.
My problem on 2017 Pacifica-I noticed my antifreeze coolant level was depleting everyday where I had to add some. I looked for any leakage around the van to no avail. Finally after placing the problem on RUclips, come to find out most of the Chrysler/Dodge 3.6L Pentastar V6 engines have a failed Oil filter housing and oil cooler (Made of Plastic warped due to the heat off the engine) that is a common cause of coolant and oil leaks on Chrysler 3.6L Pentastar engines. I went ahead and broke into the engine to the valley of the engine and replaced the failed Oil filter housing and oil cooler with a Dorman Upgraded Aluminum Engine Oil Filter Housing with Oil Cooler and Filter-No leaks now. With the breakdown of the engine I replaced the spark plugs, PCV valve, Air intake filter, Mobil 1 extended mileage oil change, with new "O" rings while I was there.
@@zama7477 I have a Dorman Aluminum Oil Filter / Cooler unit sitting in my garage. It is stamped with, "MADE IN USA." Hope to never need to install it.
I had both the oil cooler leak and rocker arm failure on my 2017 wrangler at 70,000 miles. The oil cooler leak was exactly as you described. Replaced with full aluminum upgrade. My friend, a Chrysler mechanic for 20yr. sadly tells me he's had to fix 100's(yes 100's) of 3.6's with the same problem and always recommends the aluminum upgrade. Why Jeep continues to put these plastic oil cooler parts on this engine is absolutely ridiculous.
@@SurfDweller yeah I've done a bunch of them, and I don't even work at a dealership. Just a small independent all makes/models shop in a Kentucky small town.
Just did a major tune up and maintenance of my 2012 Dodge Grand Caravan at 140k miles. Let me tell you, this engine has given me probably the best "cheap car" experience I've ever had. Lots of good responsive power. Now, to be fair, the overall reliability experience with this van has been merely okay. The sliding doors and automatic windows had mechanical problems, and some flimsy plastic transmission lines cracked and leaked. It sure ain't a Honda or Toyota, you know? But certainly no major failures. But buying it used often means a BIG discount for a great engine and family car. That's how I got it. Plus all the seats fold down flat, and you have a pseudo-cargo van. So yeah, it's the kind of engine that you can find cheap and, with a bit of research, find a deal.
A lot of people don’t realize that usually the flawed engines are outliers. Maybe driven too hard, or not hard enough. Maybe not maintained. Maybe built on a Friday. It’s just that they tend to have more problems than other engines.
how many miles are on it tho? my 07 toyota 3.5 v6 have 260k miles still runs quarter mile in 13.8 , other than maintenance parts the only thing i’ve had to do to it was replace the alternator an fuel injectors , the engine will outlive the frame
I have a Chrysler 300s v6 pentastar and so far i have 58.000 miles on it, and i have never gone to the mechanic for any issue with the motor, no tics noise and I think is the best car i ever had. Very powerful, smooth i love it. My was made in Canada 🇨🇦
58,000 miles is still reletively new for a modern engine. Get to 250k and we'll talk about whether or not it was actually a good performer. Source: my chrysler 3.3 now has 253k on it and while its had some tune-ups, never had to have the block ripped apart for anything.
My 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee with the 3.6L Pentastar has been a great SUV so far. 141,000 miles and only needed a thermostat replacement 3 years ago. Other than that, it's reliable and continues to run great.
@@FredFlintstone21 The oil gets changed every 5,000 miles. I have my friend's shop do the changes and they use PennGrade 1. Now with having over 177,000 miles, still running great.
The 3.6 is still a very reliable engine get the newer ones with updated parts. I seen one with 620k miles before losing a timing chain tensioner and locking it up.
I have one in a 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee that I bought new and that now has 113,000+ miles. It's the quietest, smoothest, most trouble-free engine I've ever had. I change the oil myself, on schedule, and use quality oil and filter. (I love how easy, quick, and clean it is to change the oil and filter.) I also run a bottle of Techron concentrate through it each 3.000 miles.
@@Future-Preps35 Absolutely! Techron has polyether amine formulation, compared to polybutene amines used in all of the others. The latter clean injectors etc. but can actually contribute to deposits in combustion chambers that accumulate and cause knocks over time.
I have a 2011 grand cherokee with the 3.6 too with 165k on it right now, i change oil every 3-4k just to be safe with pennzoil high milage. runs and idles very smooth too i drive around 100 miles a day and have no problems.
@@MikeV8652 MMO is a fuel system and engine oil additive that cleans your fuel system, lubricates the fuel pump and upper part of the cylinder and absorbs moisture. It adds extra lubrication and cleans your engine out so it runs better.
These people will never admit when they have had engine replacements. There was one guy, I replaced the timing chains and phasers on this Charger. Didnt stop the right head from dropping a seat. Just like this guy here, this guy was sooo clueless he said it never needed a thing even though I replaced the chains and phasers less than a year prior. I never buy Mopar/FCA products to flip. Headaches and tears with picky cheap customers.
Have a 2015 with the 3.6. It needed new lifter and rocker for one cylinder at 98k miles. Fortunately, I had bought the 100k extended warranty. As long as they had the engine out, I had them replace all the lifters and rockers. It was pricey, but the warranty covered much of the cost of opening the engine and it provided peace of mind.
The cylinder head issue hit my dad on his 300. Broke his heart. He'd already traded it in (after Chrysler fixed it with a refurbished part) before Chrysler sent him a notice saying they'd replace the part with a new part about 2 months later.
Have a 2012 chrysler 300s with the 3.6 pentastar engine. Have 229,000 km with no issues. Did get a misfire code after using 89 grade twice, switched to minimum 91 grade and issue went away. It is a tank with great power and fuel economy mix. Have driven 3 lengthy trips with no issues. Only use synthetic oil and regular changes. Love it.
The biggest issue I saw while working at a dodge dealer. Was the oil cooler leaking. Causing oil to fill the valley of the engine. It was always a bad O-ring on the cooler. Constant heating and cooling would cause it to break and leak oil everywhere. Most people think it's the oil pan or drain bolt because of where the oil comes down. I guess that issue hasn't been reported enough yet, but it affects every 3.6L
@@louisbaiani6262 it's a huge issue. We would constantly have vehicles come back after an oil change complaining about an oil leak. So the Foreman would come out and inspect the vehicle, and would find oil in the valley. Those oil coolers are horribly designed.
I was a Chrysler tech also... I havent seen one leaking on the 2011-2013 unit they change the cooler in 2014. The cooler on my older 2012 Chrysler 200 never leaked but the one on my current 2015 200 was replace under warranty its was leaking
@@jakobanderson6213 there's a joke in northern Canada that if you drive a journey you either have no brain or no money. Either way you'll be calling a tow truck sooner than later. ( mostly new vehicles, 2015 and up.
Lol you say lots of horsepower... you ever drive anything elts or do research my 2003 has more horsepower then our 2020 dodge promaster but of course it's an infiniti Japanese v6s have lots of power with more to push dodge had awsome v8s but the rest are garbage!
We got a 2011 Journey in 2015. Carfax says the head was replaced on 2,4,6 side. But started to have cylinder 1 misfire. I replaced coil, didn't fix it. I swapped an injector with another cylinder. Cylinder 1 still misfire & other cylinder was fine. It eventually went away, now 4 years later it came back for a few days after an oil change & now fine. I replaced the thermostat today (10-23-2021) because not much heat & temp gauge was low. It actually had a P0128 code for thermostat when I checked for codes from the misfiring.
The open deck design is used on all modern engines . It doesn't sacrifice cylinder strength , it keeps the tops of the bores round over time due to the fact that they are separated from the head bolts . On the old closed deck engines the pressure from the head bolts would pull the tops of the cylinders inward , making them out of round over time . The pentastar has an extremely robust bottom end that can handle a lot of boost .
Open deck design also cools the top of the cylinders better and lowers the tendency to knock. Manufacturer can run the engine with slight more efficient ignition advance.
I'm the original owner of the 2012 T&C and I love the van. The only two things that I'm not happy with are the spare tire placement and no power sliding buttons on the back of the seats when stowing the second row seats. I have been extremely lucky to have no mechanical issues. The hood however had to be repaired due to rust under the paint. That happened about 4 1/2 years after I purchased it. The work was done under warranty and looks beautiful. I only have 54682 miles on it in 10 years.
My 13" Charger SE got 197k miles with zero problems except for the oil cooler gaskets drying up and cracking causing a minor coolant leak. Fuel pump went out at 196k. Serviced religiously at oil change recommendations and tuned to match 91-93 octane gas. Real cheap prevention in total, hope this helps anyone concerned about their 3.6L.
I own a 2016 Chrysler 300C Platinum with the 3.6L VVT and I’ve had no issues 88k miles. Change the oil every 5k miles with synthetic oil and always used the 87 recommended octane gasoline. Not even a tick out of the engine is heard. It runs perfectly healthy so far!
@@jonc2914 I actually just passed 112k with no issues at all. I do agree, The 200 is an engineering nightmare which is why it was cancelled because they had so many issues. I’m not saying all 300s are perfect either but if you take care of these things generally they will last longer
Update sept 2021* Been using 89 but Put 87 octane gas in our 3.6L since manual says higher octane fuels don’t provide benefits but definitely can tell it losses some of its thrust when above 3k rpm on paved roads. No noticeable issues w the 8 speed’s decision making. Gladiator rubicon is still geared for low end torque which it provides in addition w 410 gears. Rock crawler that can do the job on pavement. Hopefully it’s reliable 🤞🏻 I’m hearing good things.
I have a 2014 Jeep Wrangler, bought new from local dealer here in Queensland, Australia. The vehicle has been serviced as per specifications up until this point. At 96K km a P0306 code (engine misfire cylinder 6) appeared and the technicians stated that even though the code was active the engine was not misfiring. I have spent a lot of money getting this looked at with coils, plugs, injectors and eventually rocker arms replaced to no avail. Further inspection revealed issues with the exhaust valves in cylinder 6 leaking. Not good and it's going to be expensive to remedy. There is no extended warranty for this (known) issue in Australia, so I'm not very happy. Thanks Jeep, I'll be steering well clear of your products in the future.
I had this in my 14 Promaster. The motor was terrific. The radiator did leak early on and was replaced under warranty. I kept it 7 years and just sold it this spring. Great combination of power and economy and smoothness. Call me a fan. Knowing the roller rockers could be weak, I never let it sit idling as that reduces oil flow. And I always changed the oil with good synthetic every 5k miles. No issues on mine!
My Avenger has one and it’s been perfect so far! 130k miles ain’t don’t anything but change oil and plugs coils! She still gets up and goes with you! 282hp in a lighter avenger and 200 with the 6 speed move pretty good! Great mid range! I got 20’s on mine so it hooks hard and goes!
@@chrishansen7004 lol yeah , it’s more noticeable towards the end of oil life and it goes away after a few minutes warm up. But it’s there . I previously had a Nissan 350z with a VQ35DE motor. It had much louder valve tick.
@@hardrockrelics2157 my 2021 challenger with 700 miles on it ticks when cold started for about 5-10 seconds. Lol but so did my 2019 ram 3.6 and my 2016 ram 5.7. I think Chrysler makes the best looking , driving and riding vehicles but I definitely wouldn’t keep one past warranty lol
Have a 2017 pentastar in my jeep jk . Been running 89 octane since I got it and will continue now after watching this video. I also change the oil more then average and use pennzoil synthetic . Hoping for many more years of happiness from the 3.6L.
I've had a 2012 Chrysler 200S, a 2014 Chrysler 300S, and now a 2019 Chrysler 300S, all with the 3.6L engine and no issues so far. They have been great engines.
Lucky you! I have a town and country 2014 with 3.6 engine 117k, I have issue #1 and #2 in it which are cylinder number 2 is misfiring, and I have a broken rocker arm and lifters 😩 I took it to a michanic and he advised me to change the whole engine I guess I’ll never buy Chrysler again
@@wildestcowboy2668 I maintain my cars regularly my friend! Matter of fact I have a Malibu 2008 4 cylinder (2.4L engine) it has 286k miles (original engine and transmission) still running very strong barely any issues with it! But that Town & Country was a cancer from the begging issues after issues after issues until the engine fail
@@louiewatson9389 I have a 2018 Pacifica and just hit 240k......business vam doing medical transport. Only thing I've done is normal maintenance, new serpentine belt etc. Still get 26mpg
I've owned three (2014 Journey, 2012 Wrangler & currently a 2014 Wrangler). No issues with any of them although it's worth noting that all were under 100k miles during my ownership. No complaints from me!
Our 2011 wk2 with the 3.6 vvt has 178k and yes, shes been a little higher in maintenance then some but she still runs good, quiet and smooth, the oil looks clean between changes as well. Impressive at nearly 200k
I had a 2013 AWD Charger with the V6. Never had a problem with the engine, although I did have issues with the alternator (covered by warranty), and some electronic quirks. The car was also equipped with e-shift, and there was a recall for that. Otherwise, the car had plenty of power, was quick to accelerate, and fun to drive. The AWD came in handy for adverse weather. I miss that car!
I bought a 2014 Dodge Charger SXT AWD with the V6 last July. Had the same issue with mine. Had the Alternator replaced just this past February. It’s a great car, luckily mine drives a lot better now, can definitely tell the difference. I’ll probably have to start putting the 89 in the tank every once in a while. Im planning to keep it stock, I put some Xenon lights in to replace those crappy Halogens and planning to recondition the wheels and the paint in the future, and put on some Michelin Tires when the Cooper Tires wear more. I’m planning to have some fun memories in mine for years to come! Hopefully you had a lot of great memories in that car, it sounds like you did!
I was amazed at the gas mileage my 3.6 got in my 2014 Grand Cherokee and that thing was a tank of an suv. 24-27mpg at 75mph depending on wind and terrain. I'm back in a HEMI Ram but considered a brand new single cab short bed Ram with the 3.6 since they were going for so cheap but knew the HEMI in a single cab short bed was what I really wanted. In a car or suv I'd own another 3.6 because of how smooth and refined the feel was.
First 400 mile drive with this engine in a 2013 Journey used 6 gallons for the first 200 miles at 80 mph and the second leg back against the wind at 80 used 6.5 gallons so 30 mpg or better both ways. Took roof cross bars off and aired tires to 44 psi using Castrol 0 to 20 synthetic oil. 87 octane fuel.
I had 3 hemis and then I bought a 1500-classic warlock with the V6. Honestly in day to day driving I don't miss the hemi, the 6 just needs more revs and it's about a second and a half slower to 60. I'm getting 20 mpg with 275/65/20 mud tires.
I recently traded in a 2013 Silverado reg cab with the 5.3 L V8 for a used 4X4 2017 reg cab long bed Ram with the 3.6 L V6. I was dubious about the smaller engine but took a test drive and was pleasantly surprised at its performance. It is no hot rod but is very adequate for normal driving. And gets amazing gas mileage for a full-sized pickup. It generally gets 20+ mpg for my routine driving, in warm weather. I have seen 27 mpg for a 170 mile trip with a light load on two-lane roads driving 60 mph. My criteria for performance is passing capability towing my 3000 lb boat. No issues here, it exceeded expectations, subjectively pretty close to the previous Chevy. Admittedly it revved up a bit more, but I that's to be expected as its 305 hp peak RPM is higher than the Chevy's 335. (And the 3.6 L's torque is a lot less.) I had one problem with the engine shortly after purchase which was fixed by the dealer under warranty - the plastic housing for the oil cooler/oil filter/etc cracked during a -25° cold spell (I live in MN) causing oil leakage. The dealer said this is pretty common and can be caused by overtightening the oil filter, due to the added stress plus the plastic getting brittle in the cold.
Same here, had the SRT and sold it to get a small performance car and a 3.6 for the dog. 3.6 is way better than the 6.4 Hemi apart from the noise. Fuel consumption is amazing and I've not lost any points, lost 6 points in 6 months owning the SRT 😂 SRT is way to easy to drive fast, even my nan could drive that. Required a fast car with manual to help my need for satisfaction. The SRT was too boring and so many nanny aids. I watch all these punks driving it fast, wow! Such amazing drivers - not! Personally if your GF, Mum and nan can drive it = Not a performance car. Opted for a MK2 Focus RS and a 3.6 blackhawk with the money.
My 2011 Challenger V6 ran great after owning it for 3 years before upgrading to a challenger srt8. I like to think what helped my engine from experiencing any problems were that I had replace the coolant overflow tank and added new coolant during the first few months of purchase. Driving mostly at night to work and avoid long drives during the hot summer. Also not doing alot of burnouts and high accelerations. It was a good commuter car. Got it used from 76k miles until I sold it with 108k miles. Only real I had was with the front right control arm.
I have a 2015 JKU with around 80K on the clock, the Pentastar is still running great, but I will be sure to keep my eyes peeled for any of these issues! Great video, thanks!
Just out of curiosity, have you done to cam phasers yet, or replaced the chains, tensioners and guides? If not, you'd better look into it, BTW it costs several thousand dollars.
Since they fixed the original head issue these are one of the best v6s ever made in my opinion, I’ve put 100s of thousands of miles on this motor and never had a problem.
@@inse728 nah the 3800 is the best period. The 3.6 pentastar is just next on my list for the v6s the 4.0 i6 in jeeps and the 3.8 for Buick’s and other gm cars. Those are the best for the i6 and v6. The Nissan vqs is a cool engine but I wouldn’t want to own one long term.
Thanks for the research on this issue. I've been seriously considering buying a Mopar with this engine, so I now know what to look (or listen to) for to avoid an expensive issue.
@@TJ-wv8fs it's in its 3rd Generation and all the issues are fixed. Not only is it reliable over time with normal maintenance, it's not losing power either. Most would rather have something refined than something new.
I'm a salesman and drive my 2018 Dodge Challenger GT, purchased in 2017, a lot of miles to put it mildly. My V6 is closing in on 200k miles. From its first oil change at 500 miles, I've used nothing but Amsoil. Other than plugs, cooling system flush and recently the tranny fluid, second time, with Amsoil. Bottom line, any grease or fluids all have been replaced with Amsoil products. Its an amazing car that gets very close to 30 mpg highway. It doesn't leak fluids or use any oil. I change my oil and filter every 6000. I know it can go much longer but I feel it's cheap insurance. Best car I ever owned.
120k miles on my 2011 Charger 3.6. 10w30 Penzoil full synthetic every 8k, zero ticking. Did have to replace my oil cooler unit this winter. Upgraded to R/T shocks and brakes, Diablo tuner 91 octane tune, cold air intake, dual exhaust and Tranzformer II.... 0-60 in 5 secs flat. Awesome V6 when cared for.
@@MarspeedCars thank you for amazing videos you do to inform us, base in my research and as a owner 3.6 pentastar engine 2016 and up are the beset overall gasoline engine Have ever made!
I just had to change my heating and cooling system on my 2013 Grand Cherokee. Also the auto-starter for it as well. I do love the engine and glad it has been running great. I make sure to take great care of my engine to keep it running as best as it could.
I had a 2015 dodge journey with the 3.6L V6 it was a amazing engine, HOWEVER. The maintenance I took care of it was over the top. I also used 10w40 which kept me from having chain stretch and pre mature timing chain adjuster failure, which was issues that I knew about. I never really knew about these other issues nor did I experience them in my 184 thousand miles I had the SUV. However it did crack the flywheel and the drive shaft to the rear wore out at around 114K and needed replaced. Which was expensive asf. I would still have it but unfortunately someone pulled out infront of me last week so it's in SUV heaven now 🤧
@@djkjthe3rd185 well usually that depends on the climate you live in colder climate's you want heavier oil I use 10w30 in every car I've had it's the best all around oil in everything from 4 cinders to V8's it does great in cold and hot climate's.
2015 Journey with 85,000 miles... Left Head Failure. We always had recommended maintenance performed, *independent shop Good Year affiliate, including oil changes at under 3,500 miles. Chrysler/ Dodge WILL NOT stand behind the Journey with that faulty Pentastar engine. Cost us $5,000.00 USD
A few BASIC things to prevent a lot of engine troubles. #1change your oil every 6 months or 5000kms(8000 is too much). #2 DON'T DRIVE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT. I can't stress that one enough And #3 do your daily, weekly, and monthly checks. It's your vehicle, you paid a shit tonne of money for it, look after it.
Had an 89 Voyager with 3L Mitsubishi V6. Valve guides twice, once under warranty. Bought a 98 Caravan with V6. Don't remember displacement. Ran that as well as the Voyager for over 150K miles.
@@curtisharrison5809 That 3,3 and 3,8 was bullet proof. As long as you changed oil regularly. A mate of mine still has 2 1997 caravans as company cars, cuz he likes them so much. They are both notching up to the half-million kilometers on the first engine, but do not ask me how many trannies those cars munched, haha :-D
This engine is a hoss in our 2013 town and country 136kand no issues. BUT I am a used car dealer and I Can honestly say almost ever used town and country I see at Auction is making a ticking sound. I hear it on the Routan as well. Funny though newer grand caravans run very well at auction I have seen very few with a nasty tick
I'll have to remember to use mid grade gasoline in mine once in awhile. I usually cheap out at the pumps. My 2014 is been excellent so far never even went back to the dealership once.
I have. 2015 Caravan...at 70,000 miles left cylinder head failure and replaced under warranty. I’ve had a broken motor mount and a thermostat replaced as well. Even with all that - a great affordable family vehicle.
I drive Uber and Lyft. Average 200/500 miles a day. Currently have 286,000 plus. Almost zero maintenance. Just normal maintenance, air filter, new alternator, spark plugs ect. My passengers are amazed that my Pacifica has that high of miles and still runs so smoothly.
A couple weeks ago I noticed my 2012 Jeep wrangler was starting to over heat and the heat would blow cold. Brought it into the shop and they replaced the temp gauge and everything ran great for the next couple days. I went away for a week and when I came back all the issues came back as well. I just got back from the mechanic for a second time and now they said there’s a warped cylinder head causing exhaust to flow into the cooling system. They quoted $5k to fix the issue including the rocker arms which they said could fail anytime in the near future. This is shocking to me since the car only has 97k miles on it and the temp gauge never read H only 3 quarters at most when it was overheating and the check engine light never came on once. I like the pentastar engine and Dodge and Jeep products but this is uncalled for. Even if the pentastar engine is overall reliable, a simple thing such as a thermostat failure should not cause catastrophic engine damage after only driving a few miles with it running a little hot.
We had a 2013 Ram 1500 with the Pentastar engine, traded it in on a 2023 Ram 1500. The 2013 had 105,300 miles on the engine, and we had NO engine problems in the ten years we owned that vehicle. Maintenance is key, regular oil and filter changes, air filter changes, coolant changes and spark plug replacements, all performed regulary, or early (coolant and sparkplugs). We also have a 2022 Durango GT AWD with the Pentastar engine, and we enjoy that vehicle very much too.
Biggest solution for the cooling issues is to flush the cooling system early and often. Don't wait 150,000 miles to replace the coolant. Flush it in the first 50,000 miles and every 50,000 thereafter to get out any accumulated debris. Coolant is cheap, engines are expensive.
I had one in my 2012 200, loved it. No leaks, and always ran good. Then again, it had less than 50k on it. The fatal flaw was the stupid horrible performing/shifting transmission in those early 3.6's.
Yes the fwd 6 speed is not great but mine improved with a filter and ATF4 Mopar fluid change at 120,000 mile I wish I had done a fluid chain/filter change at 60k miles.
Yeah I also had a 2011 200. The trans was horrible. Intermit hard shifts into drive or reverse and harsh down shifts at times too. But the engine was great. Tons of power. Punch it from a stop and make sure you hold on the to steering wheel mad torque steer. Traded in with 60k for a 14 charger rt 5.7. I upgraded the intake plenum with the 6.4, wired the srv with a mds switch, cai, long tube headers, high flow cats, custom Jay Greene tune, and tranzformer shift kit. That thing was a rocket, then traded in for a 16 challenger 392 scat pack 6mt. This was was a handful to drive, all that torque and lack of traction was fun. Now I drive a 19 honda accord 2.0t, that gas guzzler was killing wallet.
2018 promaster here with 36k here I use 91 every day and WOT drive it everywhere and leave it running for hours only issues coolent leak I daily check it everyday great motor!!!
I wish I could up-doot this more than once. That transmission is hot trash, failed at 89k on my Journey (3 months past 6 year powertrain warranty). Went from fine to grenade in 1 block. What the actual.. Thought my issue was a one-off until I had it rebuilt, the trans guy keeps them on the shelf because they're so common to fail. *sigh*
The ultra drive transmission is a 6-speed variant (62TE), introduced in the 2007 model year and remains in production for several models as of 2019 in front wheel drive application.
Even though I know Chrysler vehicles always have issues, I still refuse to look at other brands. I just like these cars, they arent boring. I had a newer Toyota once and couldnt really connect with it cause there was never nothing wrong with it...
@@Sak-zo1ui I think you're a bit wrong, they are VERY reliable in having Quality control issues and some random problems which are just dumb. Ofc dealers see the most, but i'd like to think once they're out of warranty they'd be one of the best.
WOW! I've had every issue this video explained. I have a 2012 Jeep Wrangler, I had to replace my engine at 115K ($8K) approx. 2 months ago. My heater core is busted, haven't had heat or air in 3 years. And my Jeep randomly overheats, the overheating is not serious but I have to keep an eye on the needle. I love my Jeep just wish I didn't have all of these issues.
To be honest I haven't experienced any of these problems. I bought my 2011 Caravan used with 168,000kms on it. I've put another 40,000 kms on it and no tick or coolant issues at all. Clearly idk what, if any, recalls or repairs may have been done before. I will only use full synthetic oil in this engine though because of seeing videos about the tick. Great job on the video.
113,000 miles on my Chrysler 200's V6 Pentastar 3.6L. I got it at 29k. Issues are in the cooling system. Don't play around when that temperature light comes on.
2011 3.6 pentastar 118k miles and no issues at all. Only ones I've seen with issues are the one with owners that don't keep up with the oil changes and maintenance.
@@mmatthewdavey5704 only problem that it's given me was the oil cooler giving out but I replaced that my self. I maintain and repair my own cars if something breaks I don't worry about it since I know I can fix it. I plan on super charging it with a pro charger when there kit comes out so I know things are going to break lol
I dont wrench but i have an excellent mechanic that schooled me on car care when i was a teenager. Im much wiser now. Had this vehicle for 4 years and its reading 209,213 on the odometer currently. She's still running, but after about 160k i started having major issues. 2 fuel pumps is one thing but im on my 3rd round of catalytic converters because ive had a misfire since then. There was one point where my vehicle would barely whimper on at start and when it did it smelled like sulphur and rumbled like crazy at idle. The cylinder bank with cylinder 2 was shut off by the cars computer to help protect them from the misfire, which almost mechanically totalled my car. Not to mention the common fusing/wiring issue that my original owner thankfully got done at a dodge dealer before i bought it. I love my car..but it has been a pain in the ass to keep it on the road and i havent been able to pass an inspection in over well over 18 months 🙃
I purchased a 2017 RAM 1500 Express with this engine in 2019. I find it an great power plant, had as much horsepower as my 2003 RAM with the 5.7 Hemi. Ironically I did purchase a factory extended and have that security in mind. Believe most owners are to blame for this engine issues as most don’t follow the maintenance needs, very typical.
We have a 2012 grand caravan. Had the misfire issue with the cylinder head, but it was replaced under warranty at around 60k. Had a broken thermostat, and after replacing it the housing leaked and had to replace that too. Had a ticking rocker arm and changed that at around 120k... thankfully before it wiped out the cam. Had a misfire issue at about 140k that drove me nuts. Finally figured out it was a bad cam phaser on the rear exhaust cam. Changed all of them while i was in there. Because of the misfire, the rear catalyst went bad but isn’t plugged, just setting a code every once in a while. Its got 160k on it now. Oh, and the drain back valve broke off in the oil filter housing last oil change but i was able to get one and replace it without changing the whole filter housing. Im a mechanic, and told my wife this was all going to happen when she wanted to buy it, but she didn’t believe me...
Oh man I had that engine in my 09 Ram and HATED it, lol. With 3.55's and 5 speed auto that truck couldn't get out of its own way. Drank the hell out of gas too for amount (or lack of) power it put out.
@@austinreed347 LOL no clue I haven't owned that truck since 2011. Once you go HEMI you can't go back even though I did have a 2 year fling with my loaded Grand Cherokee with the Pentastar. Wasn't the same after it got rear ended pretty bad so went back to a HEMI Ram and glad I got the loaded SUV thing out of my system. Gotta have an open bed behind me to be happy.
@@billyhill2488 I really respect Mopar guys just because of how loyal they are. Almost all Mopar owners have problems with their vehicle but still stick with them. Even the Pentastar V6 is an average engine and yet from Mopar guys, you would think it’s the greatest engine ever.
On my 2013 Wrangler 3.6 I started having reduced heat on drivers side and found sand in heater core when back-flushed. This was at 6 year 90,000. several videos on sand issue if you have reduced heat. Plugs replaced at 105,000 shown normal wear. Thermostat (spring stuck open) replaced at 105,000. So I'm relatively happy with the durability of the engine.
Had coolant flush i n April this year, still minimum heat on drivers side, just replaced my oil filler cooler was leaking, still drivers side little heat. 2017 jk 143,00km
I own a 2014 Grand Caravan and it just hit 150k. I have experienced basic issues since owning. The damn oil filler, it "needed" a new water pump (dealer said it was leaking but never saw a drop) and starter. Other than that I've needed to do brakes and tires. I have been very impressed with this engine and hope to have the same luck with the one in my wifes 20 Pacifica.
I used to work at a dealer, typically during inspections they can see the start of a leak forming with pink crust forming around the waterpump. Happens to Toyotas a lot. Once that pink crust forms, it could be any day when that seal lets go completely and you're stranded on the side of the road because the coolant dumped out.
Three of these engines. 2014 Avenger with 130K, 2016 Caravan 190K, 2018 Pacifica 112K, no problems on any of the three engines. Very good fuel economy, smoothness. Always use basic 87 octane fuel. Change oil every 8-10K miles.
Hmm.Yeah I've heard of these engines having some issues. I guess I got a good one. My 2015 Grand Caravan has the 3.6 and it's got 340,000 kms on it and it's never given me any trouble. Still going on the original engine and transmission. AC/Heat has never needed servicing either.
Lucky you. I've got a '16 GrandCaravan and had to change the trans twice, injectors and lifters, rockers and cams. Also cooling/ overheating issues. All before 80k miles.
@@Haltech92 Any oil cooler fails if the oil is contaminated due to neglect, coolant entering oil or major engine failure (metal particles in oil galleries/passages etc.) Never clean or reuse an oil cooler/elements. Get a new one.
@@Haltech92 That is strange. Not flushing out the entire engine oil passages/galleries improperly or not fully is one thing that comes to mind. This is a tough one. Haven't ran into that one.....
3.6 in my 2013 Grand Cherokee has been flawless. 93,000 miles on it now, runs perfect no ticks or coolant issues like described here. Guess I got a good one
I drove a 2019 Dodge Charger with the 3.6 v6 Pentastar engine from College station Texas to Portland Oregon and averaged 36mpg. It was a rental. I will definitely buy one.
I've been subscribed for a while now and I just happen to be currently looking at buying a 2011-2014 charger with the v6 engine. So this definitely is helpful for me right now and a funny coincidence.
Honestly I have a sxt challenger and Ik videos and numbers say 0-60 in about 6.2 but mine is stock besides a cai and has a nail in a tire causing it to stay stupid low on air and I still hit 5.7 every time and sometimes run a 5.6
Before you buy used car designed 20 years ago and made by the worst and car manufacturing entity in NA and Europe ( Fiat-Chrysler and now Peugeot, financial pyramid is complete ) ask yourself what are your priorities, if its high quality reliable car with excellent handling and good power well FCA never made a car like that , its either one of those qualities or none of them ( its never quality/reliability) never a full package, if you want to become a stereotype like minded will be impressed and welcoming though
@@MegaNinjaMonkeyZord My family has been almost exclusively Mopar since the 1960s. Out of the four newer vehicles that we have had, two being from 2011 and 2012 respectively, we have experienced zero major issues. I get behind the wheel of my Challenger, and it’s a joy to drive. Handles well if you know what you’re doing, and has plenty of power. Pretty damn good quality on the interior, paint, etc. I always hear people complain about Chrysler products, but, based upon my experience, which is pretty significant, it’s mostly horse shit. What’s your experience with FCA or, hell, even Daimler for that matter?
Yah, avoid taking it to shops that don't know the engine.. I've also heard of dumb technicians overtightening the oil filter cap causing the assembly to crack because the plastic is shitty. The filter is so damn easy to change on this engine you might as well just do it yourself anyways.
Either the housing itself cracks or the seal on the oil cooler fails, as was the case on mine '14 charger. Oil pooled in the valley and ran down the back of the engine, burning off on the bellhousing and causing it to reek of burnt rubber. Very expensive repair at the dealership, but looks to be an easy job if you have some mechanical inclination.
The rocker arm issue is found in the first gens. With the updated PUG engine, this have this fixed, i think. Ive never seen one fail. Ive seen many with more than 100k without major issues. All in all, i think its one of Chryslers best engines ever made. Coming from Chrysler, its pretty reliable (and that is a mouthful). Thats good for them.
Pentastar engines are the biggest pieces of crap 2 grace our roads in decades! The main problem for me is that these vehicles also encounter a host of other issues besides the rocker arm failures, the oil, coolant leaks from up top there, the plastic thermostat housings, etc. They also have weak transmissions(62te), tipm issues, rear h/vac will definitely need some repairs eventually, I mean the list just keeps going on & on and the more you look at reviews and other people's experiences, you find other issues that make you wanna not buy any Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep product manufactured anywhere in the 2011 thru 2021 years! I think I'll pass...especially after hearing people with the new "revised" 2016-up pentastar engines still complaining about the same valvetrain issues & oil leaks from the filter/cooler housing assembly!?! You can replace it with an aluminum one & call it an upgrade all you want but it's still gonna leak from underneath it when the 0-rings give way eventually...
@@jbone1383 well, to each their own. Ive heard bad experiences but also good ones. All cars fail, though. Even Toyotas. Some cars just need some more work done to them to keep running. If your main concern is low cost of ownership and are not too much into fixing cars or you are not a car person, you can get a less problematic car. Read that again: LESS problematic. My GC has had some issues but engine and trans (the ZF) have been good to me. I fix it myself And no, no TIPM issues because mine doesnt have it. Thats for the older models.
@@Kevin09210 Oh, okay. GC must stand for Grand Cherokee if you have the ZF 8-speed? Those are pretty solid tranny's from what I can tell, I was gonna purchase a 300 back in 2012 that had one but the deal fell thru... the only complaint I had about it was the extremely high price of the fluid! I believe it was the most expensive tranny fluid on the shelf @ the time, lol...Also the procedure for just checking the fluid level seemed kinda ridiculous but yeah those seem to have been proven pretty durable over the years🦾
@@jbone1383 the fluid is expensive, but more expensive is a new tranny 😉 Chryslers products are not toyotas, but some of the new ones are better than the old pieces of crap they use to manufacture. I particularly like Jeeps and the Dodge Durango. They are relatively well built compared to other models. You just have to choose which ones have the least problems, and you can enjoy the car and not stick with the boring options only. There are many Chrysler products I cant recommend, but a few I can (like the GC and Durango), always telling people to check on the car and that you will have to do some extra maintenance to keep them running well.
Bought a 2016 Wrangler for my daughter with 56k miles...rocker arms failed and ate a camshaft at 63k miles but the dealer fixed it as it is a "known" problem and was so close to warranty. Also, the junk plastic oil cooler under the intake failed and this thing was the Exxon Valdez for a week. Bought the Dorman replacement metal part and fixed it myself this weekend. Not impressed. I have a 1996 Ford F150 with the 4.9 inline 6. Abuse it, don't change the oil enough, and it just keeps running and running. Had to replace the distributor ($100), but that is it. Factory AC, factory water pump, etc. This Jeep will be junk at 200k, just saying. Oh yeah, I hear the rear mains leaking before 100k is a common problem too.
I'm on my second 3.6l. I put 130,000 miles on my 2011, and am at 112,000 miles on my 2017. Valvoline full syn at 5000 miles, the manual stated interval. I do 98% highway miles. Both run like new. It's a great engine. If I was city driving, I would change oil at 3000 miles. I get 40+ MPG (imp.) at 75mph. Caveat: These engines will really eat gas in the city if you aren't careful on the pedal.
Oil leak is probably oil cooler assembly issue, that looks like a trans leak, but motor oil, fix it ASAP, you risk a fire with the oil pooling in the center of the motor, known as the “valley”.
160k miles in my WK2 and still going strong 👍 Now I know what to work on before boosting it 😈 For real though, the Pentastar is solid af. Compared to the horror stories I've heard from everyone in the other camps with their various V6s over the decades, Mopar really did an insanely good job on this thing. Decent power, uncannily smooth, and respectable potential too. Really a solid all 'rounder.
@@iamtheoffenderofall lets do some quick math here: Assume 4 per week from just you, that's 52ish per year multiplied by say 200 other locations also condemning 4 per week all year you get 10,400, divide by we will go with 15Mil since the video said they already hit 10Mil awhile back so lets make this easy and we get total of .27% failure rate per year is not bad, nothing is perfect.
@@tartartar7198 quick math you neglect....at the height.. 500 per WEEK reported by dealers across the US. Cherry picking numbers will never help your case.
My 2012 Caravan had a issue around 65k with the head. Took it to a Dodge dealer and Dodge warrantied 100%. I now have 179k on it with no problems ticks, engine light. Good maintenance intervals are done.
2019 Ram 1500 3.6L v6 4x4 owner here. Bought the truck used with 51k. Currently at about 56. Took to the shop a few times after I noticed an issue when I get up to speed on highway, truck wouldn’t shift unless I let off gas. Took to dealer twice and they never found an issue. Check engine light came on ran the code and got a cylinder 4 misfire code. Took to dealer and again they found nothing. Got sent overseas recently and had my wife turn it on and sometimes drive it around. She too felt hesitation. Ask my neighbor to take for a spin he also felt it. She took it to dealer and they FINALLY said they found an issue. They replaced the transmission and the catalytic converter, issue was still there. They didn’t know what else to do so they reached out to engineers. About a month goes by and they dug into it more and said the intake camshafts were shot. They had 1 and had to order the other. That’s where I’m currently at. They asked what gas I’ve been using I said 87 from top notch gas stations. Mostly Shell. They asked if I had done anything to it I said no because I haven’t. Anyone ever heard of these issues?
I have a 2012 V W Routan w/the 3.6. At about 120,000 miles the flywheel failed, the center completely broke out of it. Engine still ran fine but w / a nocking sound from the broken flywheel. Engine now has 140.000 miles, runs great, very smooth, great power, 20 -22 m p g.
They made really difficult and time consuming to replace the oil pressure switch which fails a lot. Have to remove the entire intake manifold to get to a $20 part. Was never an issue doing it in under a min on the old 4.0
@@JJ4848 I just replaced the sensor myself, after my mechanic did the oil filter housing replacement the sensor he put in was junk, and the code returned. I bought an oem sensor from amazon and 6 hours later, I did a lot of cussing without taking the intakes off. Had to buy a special socket but saved me 350 $ from taking it to my mechanic. If you have basic tools you can do it hardest part was trying to thread the sensor while laying on top of the engine lol
Definitely one of the most reliable engines from FCA/Stellantis. But have to say if you want the V6 get the 3rd gen with ESS which resolved the problems from the previous generations. You'll find the 3rd gen only in Chrysler Pacifica, Ram 1500, Jeep Cherokee, Jeep Grand Cherokee, Jeep Wrangler, and Dodge Durango. All the other models that I didn't mention with the 3.6 V6 like the Dodge Durango, Ram 1500 Classic, and Chrysler 200 for example uses the previous generation 2nd gen Penterstar V6.
Yea avoid any 1st and 2nd gen 3.6. I have a 2016 GrandCaravan and it had the infamous "tick". Had all cams, lifters and rockers changed due to that issue. Also bad injectors and 2 bad transmissions. I'd probably avoid most if not all Dodge/Chrysler products pre 2022, especially if you don't have a warranty worth paying for or if you're not mechanically inclined.
I'm on my third Jeep Wrangler with the 3.6L Pentastar V6 and never had a single issue with any of them. I just buy new Jeeps when they upgrade the interiors but with regular maintenance they run great.
I have a 2012 Avenger sxt+, with Pentastar V6. A few yrs ago I ran it at a local dragstrip. Surprisenly, turned a 14.5 sec. 1/4 mile run. Stock, well cold air intake and low restriction muffler, but that's it. Oh, 93 octane too. I was impressed it was that quick.. Still running great @ 122k miles. I change oil/ filter myself.Use full synthetic oil and use 89 octane. Zippy little car... Did have to replace heater core tho. Did it myself for $100. Works good. Nice car. Rides firm, but not harsh. Good fuel mileage. Even was in a wreck. Darn solid front end..
Ive had 3 vehicles with the 3.6L Pentastar. Never a single issue with any of them. Ive always done 5000 mile oil and filter changes on them. Fantastic engine!
The first thing I did to insure I would not have internal issues was to remove the Pennzoil and put in my tried and trusted Valvoline. Change the oil on 7K mile intervals and we have had absolutely no issues. We actually were asked at the dealership we have had service it what we have done to keep the typical 3.6 noise down. All I can say is those who know use Valvoline.
@@rustyrussell901 I would think that the owner of an expensive Pentastar engine could afford synthetic Walmart oil and filter every 3000 miles at $19.00 for a 5 quart jug. It would be pretty cheap insurance.
@@DUCKSAREEVILLLLLLLL Exactly, and the Walmart oil is no different and no less quality than the others. They have another brand put in Walmart bottles. The duty ratings of the oil are the same no matter who made it.
@@townhall05446True facts
Do you want to triple the life of valve springs, rocker arms, camshafts, bearings any lubricated parts Pro Blend 1600 it's amazing , you add it to your oil of choice.
Work on the Pentastar everyday. The head and rocker arm issues are 100% accurate but the vehicle's affected are pretty low. Enough so that we purchased a 3.6 in my wife's car. For the most part they run great and have great power.
@asdad asdasd the trans does the same thing in my ‘15 GC it usually happens when i first drive the car for the day, if the trans is warmed up & it still does that. You might need to get it serviced
@asdad asdasd lol yu mad they didn’t reply to you ? 😂
@asdad asdasd 🤣🤣🤣
My Jeep is in the shop for rocker arms right now
If you miss an oil change on these series of engine, they wear out. The magnetic ring on the cam shafts pack up with metal debris, and foul out the sensor. I never let my dad go passed 40%life of oil. He did it once, and it cost him $3500 in upper head and timing work, and his trans was always clunky and just got replaced. He has a 2016 Ram 3.6 with the locking 4x4.
As a Technician who repairs most brands, I have seen a few with worn rocker arms and some of the plastic cooling system components fail but they mostly all have problems with the use of plastic components.
Compared to some of the engines today I would say that the 3.6 engine is above average for reliability.
Maybe compared to a Ford 5.4 three valve but I see Chrysler engines in the shop for major repairs long before 100k miles which in this day and age is unacceptable. And I’m not even a mechanic but almost without fail these Chrysler’s just start falling apart waaayyy to early. Bad rocker arms? Bad valve lifters? C’mon, man that’s just cheap parts right there
Cheers
@@tomdavis3038 I can tell you that since I work on them all every day I stand by what I said.
@@tomdavis3038 ..Toyota makes crap engines with major flaws as does Honda,VW,Hyundai,Ford and GM...they ALL have issues!!!!!! Now electric cars even have major issues,failing batteries/no drive range etc....
Chrysler mainly uses the 3.6 and 5.7 Hemi they make over a million per year or each engine and of course with 99% of your fleet is the Pentastar and Hemi you will have people and issues..Overall they are strong,reliable engines...
Remember Toyota makes crap engines and they did since the 1970's..I know!!! Car dealer owner today,and I worked at a Toyota dealer back in the 1990's(I worked in the body shop but knew and helped out mechanics when needed/I work on cars/engines all the time)..Today Toyota has burning oil/bad piston rings that destroy the engines and Toyota cant make 50,000 miles without a rebuild!
They are pretty solid motors for the most part.
@@01trsmar You exaggerate and lie like a snake oil salesman. Oh its true, its true.
Biggest majority of 3.6s I've dealt with were oil cooler issues. Our shop always replaces them with the aluminum unit since most of them seem to start leaking from the seal between the plastic housing and the aluminum cooling block. Ford had a similar issue in the v6 engines and the plastic thermostat housings that would warp and lose their seal.
I think in the past 3 years I've had 2 3.6s come in with rocker arm failures. I've yet to have one with a cylinder head failure.
I've lost count on how many oil coolers I've replaced.
My problem on 2017 Pacifica-I noticed my antifreeze coolant level was depleting everyday where I had to add some. I looked for any leakage around the van to no avail. Finally after placing the problem on RUclips, come to find out most of the Chrysler/Dodge 3.6L Pentastar V6 engines have a failed Oil filter housing and oil cooler (Made of Plastic warped due to the heat off the engine) that is a common cause of coolant and oil leaks on Chrysler 3.6L Pentastar engines. I went ahead and broke into the engine to the valley of the engine and replaced the failed Oil filter housing and oil cooler with a Dorman Upgraded Aluminum Engine Oil Filter Housing with Oil Cooler and Filter-No leaks now. With the breakdown of the engine I replaced the spark plugs, PCV valve, Air intake filter, Mobil 1 extended mileage oil change, with new "O" rings while I was there.
@@zama7477 I have a Dorman Aluminum Oil Filter / Cooler unit sitting in my garage. It is stamped with, "MADE IN USA." Hope to never need to install it.
I had both the oil cooler leak and rocker arm failure on my 2017 wrangler at 70,000 miles. The oil cooler leak was exactly as you described. Replaced with full aluminum upgrade. My friend, a Chrysler mechanic for 20yr. sadly tells me he's had to fix 100's(yes 100's) of 3.6's with the same problem and always recommends the aluminum upgrade. Why Jeep continues to put these plastic oil cooler parts on this engine is absolutely ridiculous.
@@SurfDweller yeah I've done a bunch of them, and I don't even work at a dealership. Just a small independent all makes/models shop in a Kentucky small town.
@@johngranato2673 sadly, you will have to eventually. But that aluminum one is the way to go for sure.
Just did a major tune up and maintenance of my 2012 Dodge Grand Caravan at 140k miles. Let me tell you, this engine has given me probably the best "cheap car" experience I've ever had. Lots of good responsive power.
Now, to be fair, the overall reliability experience with this van has been merely okay. The sliding doors and automatic windows had mechanical problems, and some flimsy plastic transmission lines cracked and leaked. It sure ain't a Honda or Toyota, you know? But certainly no major failures.
But buying it used often means a BIG discount for a great engine and family car. That's how I got it. Plus all the seats fold down flat, and you have a pseudo-cargo van. So yeah, it's the kind of engine that you can find cheap and, with a bit of research, find a deal.
My 3.6 Liter Chrysler engine has been flawless since 2015. Great engine!
A lot of people don’t realize that usually the flawed engines are outliers.
Maybe driven too hard, or not hard enough. Maybe not maintained. Maybe built on a Friday.
It’s just that they tend to have more problems than other engines.
My 2016 charger made in 2015 has been running strong too
Miss a few oil changes dude I’m a mechanic I see them fail every day hope yours keep running that’s great
how many miles are on it tho? my 07 toyota 3.5 v6 have 260k miles still runs quarter mile in 13.8 , other than maintenance parts the only thing i’ve had to do to it was replace the alternator an fuel injectors , the engine will outlive the frame
@@ripdiptatterchip3851 my 2016 charger v6 has 120k on the odometer. No repairs only maintenance.
I have a Chrysler 300s v6 pentastar and so far i have 58.000 miles on it, and i have never gone to the mechanic for any issue with the motor, no tics noise and I think is the best car i ever had. Very powerful, smooth i love it. My was made in Canada 🇨🇦
The car was, the motor wasn't.
Car was assembled in Canada, not made
58,000 miles is still reletively new for a modern engine. Get to 250k and we'll talk about whether or not it was actually a good performer.
Source: my chrysler 3.3 now has 253k on it and while its had some tune-ups, never had to have the block ripped apart for anything.
My 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee with the 3.6L Pentastar has been a great SUV so far. 141,000 miles and only needed a thermostat replacement 3 years ago. Other than that, it's reliable and continues to run great.
That's great news! What oil are you running? How often do you change the oil?
@@FredFlintstone21 The oil gets changed every 5,000 miles. I have my friend's shop do the changes and they use PennGrade 1. Now with having over 177,000 miles, still running great.
The 3.6 is still a very reliable engine get the newer ones with updated parts. I seen one with 620k miles before losing a timing chain tensioner and locking it up.
Cool story bro.
@@user-bt2uw8ov8n You say lack of maintenance but Toyotas or hondas dont seem to have that issue..
My jeep jt with less than 30,000 miles is in the shop getting lifters and related parts replaced.
Yeah timing chain and tensioner should be replaced between 150k and 200k
if powerpoints were this informative when i was in school, i wouldnt have been as bored in class lol
Agreed. Go Cards!!!
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Yup
I have one in a 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee that I bought new and that now has 113,000+ miles. It's the quietest, smoothest, most trouble-free engine I've ever had. I change the oil myself, on schedule, and use quality oil and filter. (I love how easy, quick, and clean it is to change the oil and filter.) I also run a bottle of Techron concentrate through it each 3.000 miles.
@@Future-Preps35 Absolutely! Techron has polyether amine formulation, compared to polybutene amines used in all of the others. The latter clean injectors etc. but can actually contribute to deposits in combustion chambers that accumulate and cause knocks over time.
I have a 2011 grand cherokee with the 3.6 too with 165k on it right now, i change oil every 3-4k just to be safe with pennzoil high milage. runs and idles very smooth too i drive around 100 miles a day and have no problems.
Have you tried using MMO (Marvel Mystery Oil)?
@@matthewmiller2268 No. I've seen it in stores, but I have no idea what it's supposed to do.
@@MikeV8652 MMO is a fuel system and engine oil additive that cleans your fuel system, lubricates the fuel pump and upper part of the cylinder and absorbs moisture. It adds extra lubrication and cleans your engine out so it runs better.
Mines got 120k on my charger and I beat on it like crazy and it’s taken it all so far.
Look at you oil filter housing between the headz🤣🤣
Lmao only thing I’ve had to replace
@@sourpowder1030 120k is a lot ... thats equal to 600,000 Toyota miles easy
These people will never admit when they have had engine replacements. There was one guy, I replaced the timing chains and phasers on this Charger. Didnt stop the right head from dropping a seat. Just like this guy here, this guy was sooo clueless he said it never needed a thing even though I replaced the chains and phasers less than a year prior. I never buy Mopar/FCA products to flip. Headaches and tears with picky cheap customers.
My 2012 got over 230000 . The only thing I had to replace was the water pump.
Have a 2015 with the 3.6. It needed new lifter and rocker for one cylinder at 98k miles. Fortunately, I had bought the 100k extended warranty. As long as they had the engine out, I had them replace all the lifters and rockers. It was pricey, but the warranty covered much of the cost of opening the engine and it provided peace of mind.
They took the engine out ?
The cylinder head issue hit my dad on his 300. Broke his heart. He'd already traded it in (after Chrysler fixed it with a refurbished part) before Chrysler sent him a notice saying they'd replace the part with a new part about 2 months later.
What year 300 was it ??
Have a 2012 chrysler 300s with the 3.6 pentastar engine. Have 229,000 km with no issues. Did get a misfire code after using 89 grade twice, switched to minimum 91 grade and issue went away. It is a tank with great power and fuel economy mix. Have driven 3 lengthy trips with no issues. Only use synthetic oil and regular changes. Love it.
The biggest issue I saw while working at a dodge dealer. Was the oil cooler leaking. Causing oil to fill the valley of the engine. It was always a bad O-ring on the cooler. Constant heating and cooling would cause it to break and leak oil everywhere. Most people think it's the oil pan or drain bolt because of where the oil comes down.
I guess that issue hasn't been reported enough yet, but it affects every 3.6L
Yeah that does sound like a major issue. It affected my uncle's 2015
@@louisbaiani6262 it's a huge issue. We would constantly have vehicles come back after an oil change complaining about an oil leak. So the Foreman would come out and inspect the vehicle, and would find oil in the valley. Those oil coolers are horribly designed.
I was a Chrysler tech also... I havent seen one leaking on the 2011-2013 unit they change the cooler in 2014. The cooler on my older 2012 Chrysler 200 never leaked but the one on my current 2015 200 was replace under warranty its was leaking
@@Jonathan11225 it was always the newer ones. The biggest headache ever.
And 3.2 V6 engines as well.
Great engine lots of HP n Torque. In our 2011 Dodge Journey will over 200k miles. Never once have had an engine problem
you got a good journey then 👏 bc at our shop I swear journeys always have axel seal and engine seal issues
@@jakobanderson6213 there's a joke in northern Canada that if you drive a journey you either have no brain or no money. Either way you'll be calling a tow truck sooner than later. ( mostly new vehicles, 2015 and up.
Lol you say lots of horsepower... you ever drive anything elts or do research my 2003 has more horsepower then our 2020 dodge promaster but of course it's an infiniti Japanese v6s have lots of power with more to push dodge had awsome v8s but the rest are garbage!
We got a 2011 Journey in 2015. Carfax says the head was replaced on 2,4,6 side. But started to have cylinder 1 misfire. I replaced coil, didn't fix it. I swapped an injector with another cylinder. Cylinder 1 still misfire & other cylinder was fine. It eventually went away, now 4 years later it came back for a few days after an oil change & now fine. I replaced the thermostat today (10-23-2021) because not much heat & temp gauge was low. It actually had a P0128 code for thermostat when I checked for codes from the misfiring.
Its Been on wards top ten engine list for like 10 years.
The open deck design is used on all modern engines . It doesn't sacrifice cylinder strength , it keeps the tops of the bores round over time due to the fact that they are separated from the head bolts . On the old closed deck engines the pressure from the head bolts would pull the tops of the cylinders inward , making them out of round over time . The pentastar has an extremely robust bottom end that can handle a lot of boost .
Open deck design also cools the top of the cylinders better and lowers the tendency to knock. Manufacturer can run the engine with slight more efficient ignition advance.
I'm the original owner of the 2012 T&C and I love the van. The only two things that I'm not happy with are the spare tire placement and no power sliding buttons on the back of the seats when stowing the second row seats. I have been extremely lucky to have no mechanical issues. The hood however had to be repaired due to rust under the paint. That happened about 4 1/2 years after I purchased it. The work was done under warranty and looks beautiful. I only have 54682 miles on it in 10 years.
Wanna sell?
My 13" Charger SE got 197k miles with zero problems except for the oil cooler gaskets drying up and cracking causing a minor coolant leak. Fuel pump went out at 196k. Serviced religiously at oil change recommendations and tuned to match 91-93 octane gas. Real cheap prevention in total, hope this helps anyone concerned about their 3.6L.
The correct format for abbreviating a year is, '13 - 13" means 13 inches.
I own a 2016 Chrysler 300C Platinum with the 3.6L VVT and I’ve had no issues 88k miles. Change the oil every 5k miles with synthetic oil and always used the 87 recommended octane gasoline. Not even a tick out of the engine is heard. It runs perfectly healthy so far!
So you're saying I don't need to put 91 in my v6 challenger?? 😶
Same but sometime I do put 91 on it and add an additive every time I fill it up
Wait till you pass 100k miles. Your in for a rude awakening. My chrystler 200 is an engineering nightmare..
@@jonc2914 I actually just passed 112k with no issues at all. I do agree, The 200 is an engineering nightmare which is why it was cancelled because they had so many issues. I’m not saying all 300s are perfect either but if you take care of these things generally they will last longer
@@jonc2914bro, just get yourself a Toyota. Don't want a peasant car? Get a Lexus.
Only 4K miles on our 20 Gladiator. I’ve been very pleased w performance and 8speed auto transmission. Feels solid all around!!
Update sept 2021*
Been using 89 but Put 87 octane gas in our 3.6L since manual says higher octane fuels don’t provide benefits but definitely can tell it losses some of its thrust when above 3k rpm on paved roads. No noticeable issues w the 8 speed’s decision making. Gladiator rubicon is still geared for low end torque which it provides in addition w 410 gears. Rock crawler that can do the job on pavement. Hopefully it’s reliable 🤞🏻 I’m hearing good things.
I got 2021 gladiator..
I can hear a slight ticking..
hope it’s not going to be a problem
Hope not
I have a 2014 Jeep Wrangler, bought new from local dealer here in Queensland, Australia. The vehicle has been serviced as per specifications up until this point. At 96K km a P0306 code (engine misfire cylinder 6) appeared and the technicians stated that even though the code was active the engine was not misfiring. I have spent a lot of money getting this looked at with coils, plugs, injectors and eventually rocker arms replaced to no avail. Further inspection revealed issues with the exhaust valves in cylinder 6 leaking. Not good and it's going to be expensive to remedy. There is no extended warranty for this (known) issue in Australia, so I'm not very happy. Thanks Jeep, I'll be steering well clear of your products in the future.
I had this in my 14 Promaster. The motor was terrific. The radiator did leak early on and was replaced under warranty. I kept it 7 years and just sold it this spring. Great combination of power and economy and smoothness. Call me a fan. Knowing the roller rockers could be weak, I never let it sit idling as that reduces oil flow. And I always changed the oil with good synthetic every 5k miles. No issues on mine!
I drive the promasters about 5 days a week at work.. They're so much easier to drive than the Ford full-size vans.
Но если вы используете машину зимой? Когда нужно стоять и греться?
My Avenger has one and it’s been perfect so far! 130k miles ain’t don’t anything but change oil and plugs coils! She still gets up and goes with you! 282hp in a lighter avenger and 200 with the 6 speed move pretty good! Great mid range! I got 20’s on mine so it hooks hard and goes!
I still think it's an insane engine. 2011 Chrysler 200 makes over 305 HP with a stage 1 tune. Insanely fun sleeper
Almost never fails when a charger or whatever with the V6 pulls next to me and I hear *tick* *tick* *tick* . Even my neighbors does it lol.
Same with a Hemi.
My V6 GT started doing it at 8,500 miles
@@hardrockrelics2157 damn that's a fat L lol lemons law
@@chrishansen7004 lol yeah , it’s more noticeable towards the end of oil life and it goes away after a few minutes warm up. But it’s there . I previously had a Nissan 350z with a VQ35DE motor. It had much louder valve tick.
@@hardrockrelics2157 my 2021 challenger with 700 miles on it ticks when cold started for about 5-10 seconds. Lol but so did my 2019 ram 3.6 and my 2016 ram 5.7. I think Chrysler makes the best looking , driving and riding vehicles but I definitely wouldn’t keep one past warranty lol
I have a 2014 Journey with 282,000 miles on it. Other than having to replace the oil cooler and thermostat housing, it’s been flawless.
Those two issues sounds familiar. I hope to get that same mileage outta my 2014 T&C!
Have a 2017 pentastar in my jeep jk . Been running 89 octane since I got it and will continue now after watching this video. I also change the oil more then average and use pennzoil synthetic . Hoping for many more years of happiness from the 3.6L.
I've had a 2012 Chrysler 200S, a 2014 Chrysler 300S, and now a 2019 Chrysler 300S, all with the 3.6L engine and no issues so far. They have been great engines.
How many miles is u got on them ese?
Lucky you! I have a town and country 2014 with 3.6 engine 117k, I have issue #1 and #2 in it which are cylinder number 2 is misfiring, and I have a broken rocker arm and lifters 😩
I took it to a michanic and he advised me to change the whole engine
I guess I’ll never buy Chrysler again
@@AmricanEagl Maintenance is the key mi amigo!
@@wildestcowboy2668 I maintain my cars regularly my friend! Matter of fact I have a Malibu 2008 4 cylinder (2.4L engine) it has 286k miles (original engine and transmission) still running very strong barely any issues with it! But that Town & Country was a cancer from the begging issues after issues after issues until the engine fail
@@AmricanEagl Any time a human is around an engine being made, installed there can be a bad one slip thru....
253,000 trouble free miles in my 2012 avenger r/t. I drive pretty hard too. Just keeping up on maintenance seems to keep most problems away
Love the avenger rt, is if lighter than the 200S?
@@user1fja98dnaiid I wanna say the avenger is 3300 lbs and the 200 is 3600lbs, but to be honest im not sure
Better call guinness because that's either a world record or BS
@@louiewatson9389 the pentestars are actually pretty solid engines. The rest of the car though not so much
@@louiewatson9389 I have a 2018 Pacifica and just hit 240k......business vam doing medical transport. Only thing I've done is normal maintenance, new serpentine belt etc. Still get 26mpg
I've owned three (2014 Journey, 2012 Wrangler & currently a 2014 Wrangler). No issues with any of them although it's worth noting that all were under 100k miles during my ownership. No complaints from me!
Had my lifters and rockers replaced under warranty 70k miles ago. Zero issues since
Our 2011 wk2 with the 3.6 vvt has 178k and yes, shes been a little higher in maintenance then some but she still runs good, quiet and smooth, the oil looks clean between changes as well. Impressive at nearly 200k
POOT!!!
My 2015 and 2019 Pentastar V6s have performed well, so far.
lol. good luck
@@williamfswann lol you're so funny and so creative, look around and read the room
I had a 2013 AWD Charger with the V6. Never had a problem with the engine, although I did have issues with the alternator (covered by warranty), and some electronic quirks. The car was also equipped with e-shift, and there was a recall for that. Otherwise, the car had plenty of power, was quick to accelerate, and fun to drive. The AWD came in handy for adverse weather. I miss that car!
I bought a 2014 Dodge Charger SXT AWD with the V6 last July. Had the same issue with mine. Had the Alternator replaced just this past February. It’s a great car, luckily mine drives a lot better now, can definitely tell the difference. I’ll probably have to start putting the 89 in the tank every once in a while. Im planning to keep it stock, I put some Xenon lights in to replace those crappy Halogens and planning to recondition the wheels and the paint in the future, and put on some Michelin Tires when the Cooper Tires wear more. I’m planning to have some fun memories in mine for years to come! Hopefully you had a lot of great memories in that car, it sounds like you did!
Same bro smh
I was amazed at the gas mileage my 3.6 got in my 2014 Grand Cherokee and that thing was a tank of an suv. 24-27mpg at 75mph depending on wind and terrain. I'm back in a HEMI Ram but considered a brand new single cab short bed Ram with the 3.6 since they were going for so cheap but knew the HEMI in a single cab short bed was what I really wanted. In a car or suv I'd own another 3.6 because of how smooth and refined the feel was.
First 400 mile drive with this engine in a 2013 Journey used 6 gallons for the first 200 miles at 80 mph and the second leg back against the wind at 80 used 6.5 gallons so 30 mpg or better both ways. Took roof cross bars off and aired tires to 44 psi using Castrol 0 to 20 synthetic oil. 87 octane fuel.
I had 3 hemis and then I bought a 1500-classic warlock with the V6. Honestly in day to day driving I don't miss the hemi, the 6 just needs more revs and it's about a second and a half slower to 60. I'm getting 20 mpg with 275/65/20 mud tires.
I recently traded in a 2013 Silverado reg cab with the 5.3 L V8 for a used 4X4 2017 reg cab long bed Ram with the 3.6 L V6. I was dubious about the smaller engine but took a test drive and was pleasantly surprised at its performance. It is no hot rod but is very adequate for normal driving. And gets amazing gas mileage for a full-sized pickup. It generally gets 20+ mpg for my routine driving, in warm weather. I have seen 27 mpg for a 170 mile trip with a light load on two-lane roads driving 60 mph. My criteria for performance is passing capability towing my 3000 lb boat. No issues here, it exceeded expectations, subjectively pretty close to the previous Chevy. Admittedly it revved up a bit more, but I that's to be expected as its 305 hp peak RPM is higher than the Chevy's 335. (And the 3.6 L's torque is a lot less.) I had one problem with the engine shortly after purchase which was fixed by the dealer under warranty - the plastic housing for the oil cooler/oil filter/etc cracked during a -25° cold spell (I live in MN) causing oil leakage. The dealer said this is pretty common and can be caused by overtightening the oil filter, due to the added stress plus the plastic getting brittle in the cold.
Same here, had the SRT and sold it to get a small performance car and a 3.6 for the dog. 3.6 is way better than the 6.4 Hemi apart from the noise. Fuel consumption is amazing and I've not lost any points, lost 6 points in 6 months owning the SRT 😂 SRT is way to easy to drive fast, even my nan could drive that.
Required a fast car with manual to help my need for satisfaction. The SRT was too boring and so many nanny aids.
I watch all these punks driving it fast, wow! Such amazing drivers - not! Personally if your GF, Mum and nan can drive it = Not a performance car. Opted for a MK2 Focus RS and a 3.6 blackhawk with the money.
I had this engine in an older Chrysler 200. Made almost 300 horsepower back in 2012 for a sedan. Was a fun car to drive forsure
What happend to that car ?? I’m looking at a 2011 limited right now
My 2011 Challenger V6 ran great after owning it for 3 years before upgrading to a challenger srt8. I like to think what helped my engine from experiencing any problems were that I had replace the coolant overflow tank and added new coolant during the first few months of purchase. Driving mostly at night to work and avoid long drives during the hot summer. Also not doing alot of burnouts and high accelerations. It was a good commuter car. Got it used from 76k miles until I sold it with 108k miles. Only real I had was with the front right control arm.
The Millennium Falcon of engines. makes my dad van go so fast.i remember beating a older model wrx one time.
I have a 13 Charger with the 3.6 with 151k on it and still runs like new. Haven't had to do anything except regular maintenance
2012 300 8speed 158000 miles no engine problems average 28 mpg
Lol coward
@@craigklinski9075 thats highway MPG, def not city or mixed driving..
I have a 2015 JKU with around 80K on the clock, the Pentastar is still running great, but I will be sure to keep my eyes peeled for any of these issues! Great video, thanks!
Just out of curiosity, have you done to cam phasers yet, or replaced the chains, tensioners and guides? If not, you'd better look into it, BTW it costs several thousand dollars.
I have a 2016 JKU with 132,000. Just had the ticking noise repaired, rocker arms, lifters and cams: $2,485.17.
Since they fixed the original head issue these are one of the best v6s ever made in my opinion, I’ve put 100s of thousands of miles on this motor and never had a problem.
Vqs are the best v6
@@inse728 nah the 3800 is the best period. The 3.6 pentastar is just next on my list for the v6s the 4.0 i6 in jeeps and the 3.8 for Buick’s and other gm cars. Those are the best for the i6 and v6. The Nissan vqs is a cool engine but I wouldn’t want to own one long term.
@@dmoney6633 No, VQs are world class and well respected amongst most engineers and enthusiasts.
@@dmoney6633 They're good long term if u keep up with the maintenance. Vqs can go well over 200k plus miles.
@@inse728 I’m not saying they’re bad at all they’re a good motor. I just like the stuff i mentioned better.
Thanks for the research on this issue. I've been seriously considering buying a Mopar with this engine, so I now know what to look (or listen to) for to avoid an expensive issue.
just dont get one
@@TJ-wv8fs it's in its 3rd Generation and all the issues are fixed. Not only is it reliable over time with normal maintenance, it's not losing power either. Most would rather have something refined than something new.
Don't buy Chrysler Pacifica 2017.
I'm a salesman and drive my 2018 Dodge Challenger GT, purchased in 2017, a lot of miles to put it mildly. My V6 is closing in on 200k miles. From its first oil change at 500 miles, I've used nothing but Amsoil. Other than plugs, cooling system flush and recently the tranny fluid, second time, with Amsoil. Bottom line, any grease or fluids all have been replaced with Amsoil products. Its an amazing car that gets very close to 30 mpg highway. It doesn't leak fluids or use any oil. I change my oil and filter every 6000. I know it can go much longer but I feel it's cheap insurance. Best car I ever owned.
Mine has been a amazing engine. I have a 2016 challenger. 80k miles. I also run it pretty hard for a normal car and there is no ticking yet.
86k miles with my 2016 300C. Runs great
120k miles on my 2011 Charger 3.6. 10w30 Penzoil full synthetic every 8k, zero ticking. Did have to replace my oil cooler unit this winter. Upgraded to R/T shocks and brakes, Diablo tuner 91 octane tune, cold air intake, dual exhaust and Tranzformer II.... 0-60 in 5 secs flat.
Awesome V6 when cared for.
It's still a decent engine for the base Chargers 👍
Absolutely it’s a solid engine! These episodes aren’t meant to bash on them just point out the flaws and learn more about them :)
super punchy too
I found the last generation Chrysler 200 with the V6 doing better than the Charger, Challenger, and 300 since it's lighter and more aerodynamic.
@@MarspeedCars thank you for amazing videos you do to inform us, base in my research and as a owner 3.6 pentastar engine 2016 and up are the beset overall gasoline engine Have ever made!
Yup 3.6 paired with AWD is a beast in bad weather
I just had to change my heating and cooling system on my 2013 Grand Cherokee. Also the auto-starter for it as well. I do love the engine and glad it has been running great. I make sure to take great care of my engine to keep it running as best as it could.
I had a 2015 dodge journey with the 3.6L V6 it was a amazing engine, HOWEVER. The maintenance I took care of it was over the top. I also used 10w40 which kept me from having chain stretch and pre mature timing chain adjuster failure, which was issues that I knew about. I never really knew about these other issues nor did I experience them in my 184 thousand miles I had the SUV. However it did crack the flywheel and the drive shaft to the rear wore out at around 114K and needed replaced. Which was expensive asf. I would still have it but unfortunately someone pulled out infront of me last week so it's in SUV heaven now 🤧
I thought they ran on 5w-20… explain please why you used 10w40. Thanks 😀
@@djkjthe3rd185 well usually that depends on the climate you live in colder climate's you want heavier oil I use 10w30 in every car I've had it's the best all around oil in everything from 4 cinders to V8's it does great in cold and hot climate's.
@@dragoneye6642 You want lighter oil in colder climate and if the engine has cam phasers you need to use what oil they specify or you wil get a CEL.
2015 Journey with 85,000 miles... Left Head Failure.
We always had recommended maintenance performed, *independent shop Good Year affiliate, including oil changes at under 3,500 miles.
Chrysler/ Dodge WILL NOT stand behind the Journey with that faulty Pentastar engine.
Cost us $5,000.00 USD
May 07 jgc laredo 3.7 just surpassed 227K and she still runs amazing no issues and will be running her till the wheels falls off!
A few BASIC things to prevent a lot of engine troubles.
#1change your oil every 6 months or 5000kms(8000 is too much).
#2 DON'T DRIVE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT.
I can't stress that one enough
And #3 do your daily, weekly, and monthly checks. It's your vehicle, you paid a shit tonne of money for it, look after it.
What do you suggest when doing checks?
Had an 89 Voyager with 3L Mitsubishi V6. Valve guides twice, once under warranty. Bought a 98 Caravan with V6. Don't remember displacement. Ran that as well as the Voyager for over 150K miles.
3.3??
@@curtisharrison5809 could have been
@@curtisharrison5809 That 3,3 and 3,8 was bullet proof. As long as you changed oil regularly. A mate of mine still has 2 1997 caravans as company cars, cuz he likes them so much. They are both notching up to the half-million kilometers on the first engine, but do not ask me how many trannies those cars munched, haha :-D
This engine is a hoss in our 2013 town and country 136kand no issues. BUT I am a used car dealer and I Can honestly say almost ever used town and country I see at Auction is making a ticking sound. I hear it on the Routan as well. Funny though newer grand caravans run very well at auction I have seen very few with a nasty tick
On my 3rd 3.6 and I love them. Never had an issue. Had a 2012 also,only put 55k on it and got a killer trade in on it
At that mileage won't have problem no one of them !!! :)))
@@juliusboy001 not worried at all. “No one of them”??? I have at least 6 Jeep buddies. Mostly rock solid trucks,experience not just talking out my ass
@@MikeSmith-ey7ku we are talking about Caravan's here ,not trucks!
@@juliusboy001 no,we were talking about Jeep’s, don’t know what you’re talking about
My 2012 Chrysler 300 has the 3.6, 138k miles on it and not a single problem with the car since I’ve had it. Very solid engine in my opinion
Great engines.
I'll have to remember to use mid grade gasoline in mine once in awhile. I usually cheap out at the pumps. My 2014 is been excellent so far never even went back to the dealership once.
Just do a seafoam treatment before every oil change
Hey, as long as you maintain engines often and properly, they can be reliable.
That can be said about anything, but if you do everything right and it still breaks its just not quality
I have. 2015 Caravan...at 70,000 miles left cylinder head failure and replaced under warranty. I’ve had a broken motor mount and a thermostat replaced as well. Even with all that - a great affordable family vehicle.
I drive Uber and Lyft. Average 200/500 miles a day. Currently have 286,000 plus. Almost zero maintenance. Just normal maintenance, air filter, new alternator, spark plugs ect. My passengers are amazed that my Pacifica has that high of miles and still runs so smoothly.
A couple weeks ago I noticed my 2012 Jeep wrangler was starting to over heat and the heat would blow cold. Brought it into the shop and they replaced the temp gauge and everything ran great for the next couple days. I went away for a week and when I came back all the issues came back as well. I just got back from the mechanic for a second time and now they said there’s a warped cylinder head causing exhaust to flow into the cooling system. They quoted $5k to fix the issue including the rocker arms which they said could fail anytime in the near future. This is shocking to me since the car only has 97k miles on it and the temp gauge never read H only 3 quarters at most when it was overheating and the check engine light never came on once.
I like the pentastar engine and Dodge and Jeep products but this is uncalled for. Even if the pentastar engine is overall reliable, a simple thing such as a thermostat failure should not cause catastrophic engine damage after only driving a few miles with it running a little hot.
We had a 2013 Ram 1500 with the Pentastar engine, traded it in on a 2023 Ram 1500. The 2013 had 105,300 miles on the engine, and we had NO engine problems in the ten years we owned that vehicle. Maintenance is key, regular oil and filter changes, air filter changes, coolant changes and spark plug replacements, all performed regulary, or early (coolant and sparkplugs). We also have a 2022 Durango GT AWD with the Pentastar engine, and we enjoy that vehicle very much too.
Biggest solution for the cooling issues is to flush the cooling system early and often. Don't wait 150,000 miles to replace the coolant. Flush it in the first 50,000 miles and every 50,000 thereafter to get out any accumulated debris. Coolant is cheap, engines are expensive.
you bet maintenance is the key and keep it ahead of the manufacturer suggested intervals.
I had one in my 2012 200, loved it. No leaks, and always ran good. Then again, it had less than 50k on it. The fatal flaw was the stupid horrible performing/shifting transmission in those early 3.6's.
Yes the fwd 6 speed is not great but mine improved with a filter and ATF4 Mopar fluid change at 120,000 mile I wish I had done a fluid chain/filter change at 60k miles.
@@robc8468 2016 caravan the 6 speed has been smooth as silk.
Yeah I also had a 2011 200. The trans was horrible. Intermit hard shifts into drive or reverse and harsh down shifts at times too. But the engine was great. Tons of power. Punch it from a stop and make sure you hold on the to steering wheel mad torque steer. Traded in with 60k for a 14 charger rt 5.7. I upgraded the intake plenum with the 6.4, wired the srv with a mds switch, cai, long tube headers, high flow cats, custom Jay Greene tune, and tranzformer shift kit. That thing was a rocket, then traded in for a 16 challenger 392 scat pack 6mt. This was was a handful to drive, all that torque and lack of traction was fun. Now I drive a 19 honda accord 2.0t, that gas guzzler was killing wallet.
Have a 2012 3.6 213,000 miles never had any major issues still driving today running smoothly
428k on the old promaster and counting.... Zero issues
@Terri Tinnell That's great to hear! 💪🏼👍🏻
2018 promaster here with 36k here I use 91 every day and WOT drive it everywhere and leave it running for hours only issues coolent leak I daily check it everyday great motor!!!
Fatal flaws of the pentastar: 3
Fatal flaws of the 62TE "Ultrastar" transmission attached to earlier 3.6 FWD automatics: infinite
I wish I could up-doot this more than once. That transmission is hot trash, failed at 89k on my Journey (3 months past 6 year powertrain warranty). Went from fine to grenade in 1 block. What the actual.. Thought my issue was a one-off until I had it rebuilt, the trans guy keeps them on the shelf because they're so common to fail. *sigh*
Was called ultradrive not ultrastar
@@kmbud I stand corrected, thank you. Although us owners might call them ultra (Something else).
@@The3chordwonder Ultra-shit?
The ultra drive transmission is a 6-speed variant (62TE), introduced in the 2007 model year and remains in production for several models as of 2019 in front wheel drive application.
Even though I know Chrysler vehicles always have issues, I still refuse to look at other brands. I just like these cars, they arent boring.
I had a newer Toyota once and couldnt really connect with it cause there was never nothing wrong with it...
Basically every brand has its issues. Not just chrysler. It is how they are solved that makes the difference.
So Toyota was _too_ reliable?
@@robotbjorn4952 Way too reliable 😅😅😅
@@robotbjorn4952 they used to be really reliable but that really is no longer.
@@Sak-zo1ui I think you're a bit wrong, they are VERY reliable in having Quality control issues and some random problems which are just dumb. Ofc dealers see the most, but i'd like to think once they're out of warranty they'd be one of the best.
WOW! I've had every issue this video explained. I have a 2012 Jeep Wrangler, I had to replace my engine at 115K ($8K) approx. 2 months ago. My heater core is busted, haven't had heat or air in 3 years. And my Jeep randomly overheats, the overheating is not serious but I have to keep an eye on the needle. I love my Jeep just wish I didn't have all of these issues.
To be honest I haven't experienced any of these problems. I bought my 2011 Caravan used with 168,000kms on it. I've put another 40,000 kms on it and no tick or coolant issues at all. Clearly idk what, if any, recalls or repairs may have been done before. I will only use full synthetic oil in this engine though because of seeing videos about the tick. Great job on the video.
113,000 miles on my Chrysler 200's V6 Pentastar 3.6L.
I got it at 29k. Issues are in the cooling system. Don't play around when that temperature light comes on.
Thanks for another informative video! I learned my lesson buying first year cars- that's the main reason I got the Durango.. it's like a fine wine! ;)
All B/S aside,,,, the engine has some really good #'s, I'd like to have one.
2011 3.6 pentastar 118k miles and no issues at all. Only ones I've seen with issues are the one with owners that don't keep up with the oil changes and maintenance.
I bought my 2011 durango at 107k miles. If your experience is anything like mine its bout to hit the fan and quick lol. Good luck friend
@@mmatthewdavey5704 only problem that it's given me was the oil cooler giving out but I replaced that my self. I maintain and repair my own cars if something breaks I don't worry about it since I know I can fix it. I plan on super charging it with a pro charger when there kit comes out so I know things are going to break lol
I dont wrench but i have an excellent mechanic that schooled me on car care when i was a teenager. Im much wiser now. Had this vehicle for 4 years and its reading 209,213 on the odometer currently. She's still running, but after about 160k i started having major issues. 2 fuel pumps is one thing but im on my 3rd round of catalytic converters because ive had a misfire since then. There was one point where my vehicle would barely whimper on at start and when it did it smelled like sulphur and rumbled like crazy at idle. The cylinder bank with cylinder 2 was shut off by the cars computer to help protect them from the misfire, which almost mechanically totalled my car. Not to mention the common fusing/wiring issue that my original owner thankfully got done at a dodge dealer before i bought it. I love my car..but it has been a pain in the ass to keep it on the road and i havent been able to pass an inspection in over well over 18 months 🙃
I purchased a 2017 RAM 1500 Express with this engine in 2019. I find it an great power plant, had as much horsepower as my 2003 RAM with the 5.7 Hemi.
Ironically I did purchase a factory extended and have that security in mind.
Believe most owners are to blame for this engine issues as most don’t follow the maintenance needs, very typical.
We have a 2012 grand caravan. Had the misfire issue with the cylinder head, but it was replaced under warranty at around 60k. Had a broken thermostat, and after replacing it the housing leaked and had to replace that too. Had a ticking rocker arm and changed that at around 120k... thankfully before it wiped out the cam. Had a misfire issue at about 140k that drove me nuts. Finally figured out it was a bad cam phaser on the rear exhaust cam. Changed all of them while i was in there. Because of the misfire, the rear catalyst went bad but isn’t plugged, just setting a code every once in a while. Its got 160k on it now. Oh, and the drain back valve broke off in the oil filter housing last oil change but i was able to get one and replace it without changing the whole filter housing. Im a mechanic, and told my wife this was all going to happen when she wanted to buy it, but she didn’t believe me...
I like how detailed this vid was. Could you please do the 4.7L next?
I was about to comment this.
Oh man I had that engine in my 09 Ram and HATED it, lol. With 3.55's and 5 speed auto that truck couldn't get out of its own way. Drank the hell out of gas too for amount (or lack of) power it put out.
@@billyhill2488 is it reliable tho
@@austinreed347 LOL no clue I haven't owned that truck since 2011. Once you go HEMI you can't go back even though I did have a 2 year fling with my loaded Grand Cherokee with the Pentastar. Wasn't the same after it got rear ended pretty bad so went back to a HEMI Ram and glad I got the loaded SUV thing out of my system. Gotta have an open bed behind me to be happy.
@@billyhill2488 I really respect Mopar guys just because of how loyal they are. Almost all Mopar owners have problems with their vehicle but still stick with them. Even the Pentastar V6 is an average engine and yet from Mopar guys, you would think it’s the greatest engine ever.
On my 2013 Wrangler 3.6 I started having reduced heat on drivers side and found sand in heater core when back-flushed. This was at 6 year 90,000. several videos on sand issue if you have reduced heat. Plugs replaced at 105,000 shown normal wear. Thermostat (spring stuck open) replaced at 105,000. So I'm relatively happy with the durability of the engine.
Had coolant flush i n April this year, still minimum heat on drivers side, just replaced my oil filler cooler was leaking, still drivers side little heat. 2017 jk 143,00km
Did you replace your heater core, an do you have heat now.
I own a 2014 Grand Caravan and it just hit 150k. I have experienced basic issues since owning. The damn oil filler, it "needed" a new water pump (dealer said it was leaking but never saw a drop) and starter. Other than that I've needed to do brakes and tires. I have been very impressed with this engine and hope to have the same luck with the one in my wifes 20 Pacifica.
I used to work at a dealer, typically during inspections they can see the start of a leak forming with pink crust forming around the waterpump. Happens to Toyotas a lot. Once that pink crust forms, it could be any day when that seal lets go completely and you're stranded on the side of the road because the coolant dumped out.
Three of these engines. 2014 Avenger with 130K, 2016 Caravan 190K, 2018 Pacifica 112K, no problems on any of the three engines. Very good fuel economy, smoothness. Always use basic 87 octane fuel. Change oil every 8-10K miles.
little bit of synthetic friendly oil additive to help keep the rollers happy n lubed. and dont let it idle excessively.
Hmm.Yeah I've heard of these engines having some issues. I guess I got a good one. My 2015 Grand Caravan has the 3.6 and it's got 340,000 kms on it and it's never given me any trouble. Still going on the original engine and transmission. AC/Heat has never needed servicing either.
Lucky you. I've got a '16 GrandCaravan and had to change the trans twice, injectors and lifters, rockers and cams. Also cooling/ overheating issues. All before 80k miles.
Keeping up on TSB's and maintaince is key. This is quite exciting.
Have replaced 2 of these for cylinder 1 compression loss..its an ok engine,like you said CHANGE YOUR OIL
There’s no TSB for the oil cooler which I’ve found to be the number one problem for this engine
@@Haltech92 Any oil cooler fails if the oil is contaminated due to neglect, coolant entering oil or major engine failure (metal particles in oil galleries/passages etc.) Never clean or reuse an oil cooler/elements. Get a new one.
@@dontgetwellboi1240 I’m not disagreeing but for me to do for of them in a few months span with all of em under 50k miles is not a coincidence
@@Haltech92 That is strange. Not flushing out the entire engine oil passages/galleries improperly or not fully is one thing that comes to mind. This is a tough one. Haven't ran into that one.....
3.6 in my 2013 Grand Cherokee has been flawless. 93,000 miles on it now, runs perfect no ticks or coolant issues like described here. Guess I got a good one
Glad to hear that...just bought my daughter the exact same vehicle for her first car( 70k on the odometer) and it looks clean.
I drove a 2019 Dodge Charger with the 3.6 v6 Pentastar engine from College station Texas to Portland Oregon and averaged 36mpg. It was a rental. I will definitely buy one.
I've been subscribed for a while now and I just happen to be currently looking at buying a 2011-2014 charger with the v6 engine. So this definitely is helpful for me right now and a funny coincidence.
See if you can get one with AWD, and then add a Ripp supercharger. Then you'll have a "SRT6" with AWD. ;^)
Honestly I have a sxt challenger and Ik videos and numbers say 0-60 in about 6.2 but mine is stock besides a cai and has a nail in a tire causing it to stay stupid low on air and I still hit 5.7 every time and sometimes run a 5.6
Before you buy used car designed 20 years ago and made by the worst and car manufacturing entity in NA and Europe ( Fiat-Chrysler and now Peugeot, financial pyramid is complete ) ask yourself what are your priorities, if its high quality reliable car with excellent handling and good power well FCA never made a car like that , its either one of those qualities or none of them ( its never quality/reliability) never a full package, if you want to become a stereotype like minded will be impressed and welcoming though
@@MegaNinjaMonkeyZord My family has been almost exclusively Mopar since the 1960s. Out of the four newer vehicles that we have had, two being from 2011 and 2012 respectively, we have experienced zero major issues. I get behind the wheel of my Challenger, and it’s a joy to drive. Handles well if you know what you’re doing, and has plenty of power. Pretty damn good quality on the interior, paint, etc. I always hear people complain about Chrysler products, but, based upon my experience, which is pretty significant, it’s mostly horse shit. What’s your experience with FCA or, hell, even Daimler for that matter?
Love my 2014 Charger SXT AWD Sport. 56K miles no problems. Quaker State Ultimate Durability Full Synthetic self-changed and BP or Shell premium.
The oil filter housing on these are also prone to cracking causing an oil leak.
Yah, avoid taking it to shops that don't know the engine.. I've also heard of dumb technicians overtightening the oil filter cap causing the assembly to crack because the plastic is shitty. The filter is so damn easy to change on this engine you might as well just do it yourself anyways.
Either the housing itself cracks or the seal on the oil cooler fails, as was the case on mine '14 charger. Oil pooled in the valley and ran down the back of the engine, burning off on the bellhousing and causing it to reek of burnt rubber. Very expensive repair at the dealership, but looks to be an easy job if you have some mechanical inclination.
The rocker arm issue is found in the first gens. With the updated PUG engine, this have this fixed, i think. Ive never seen one fail. Ive seen many with more than 100k without major issues. All in all, i think its one of Chryslers best engines ever made. Coming from Chrysler, its pretty reliable (and that is a mouthful). Thats good for them.
Pentastar engines are the biggest pieces of crap 2 grace our roads in decades! The main problem for me is that these vehicles also encounter a host of other issues besides the rocker arm failures, the oil, coolant leaks from up top there, the plastic thermostat housings, etc. They also have weak transmissions(62te), tipm issues, rear h/vac will definitely need some repairs eventually, I mean the list just keeps going on & on and the more you look at reviews and other people's experiences, you find other issues that make you wanna not buy any Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep product manufactured anywhere in the 2011 thru 2021 years! I think I'll pass...especially after hearing people with the new "revised" 2016-up pentastar engines still complaining about the same valvetrain issues & oil leaks from the filter/cooler housing assembly!?! You can replace it with an aluminum one & call it an upgrade all you want but it's still gonna leak from underneath it when the 0-rings give way eventually...
@@jbone1383 well, to each their own. Ive heard bad experiences but also good ones. All cars fail, though. Even Toyotas. Some cars just need some more work done to them to keep running. If your main concern is low cost of ownership and are not too much into fixing cars or you are not a car person, you can get a less problematic car. Read that again: LESS problematic.
My GC has had some issues but engine and trans (the ZF) have been good to me. I fix it myself And no, no TIPM issues because mine doesnt have it. Thats for the older models.
@@Kevin09210 Oh, okay. GC must stand for Grand Cherokee if you have the ZF 8-speed? Those are pretty solid tranny's from what I can tell, I was gonna purchase a 300 back in 2012 that had one but the deal fell thru... the only complaint I had about it was the extremely high price of the fluid! I believe it was the most expensive tranny fluid on the shelf @ the time, lol...Also the procedure for just checking the fluid level seemed kinda ridiculous but yeah those seem to have been proven pretty durable over the years🦾
@@jbone1383 the fluid is expensive, but more expensive is a new tranny 😉 Chryslers products are not toyotas, but some of the new ones are better than the old pieces of crap they use to manufacture. I particularly like Jeeps and the Dodge Durango. They are relatively well built compared to other models. You just have to choose which ones have the least problems, and you can enjoy the car and not stick with the boring options only. There are many Chrysler products I cant recommend, but a few I can (like the GC and Durango), always telling people to check on the car and that you will have to do some extra maintenance to keep them running well.
@@jbone1383 I take it you are not a fan of the Pentastar.
Bought a 2016 Wrangler for my daughter with 56k miles...rocker arms failed and ate a camshaft at 63k miles but the dealer fixed it as it is a "known" problem and was so close to warranty. Also, the junk plastic oil cooler under the intake failed and this thing was the Exxon Valdez for a week. Bought the Dorman replacement metal part and fixed it myself this weekend. Not impressed. I have a 1996 Ford F150 with the 4.9 inline 6. Abuse it, don't change the oil enough, and it just keeps running and running. Had to replace the distributor ($100), but that is it. Factory AC, factory water pump, etc. This Jeep will be junk at 200k, just saying. Oh yeah, I hear the rear mains leaking before 100k is a common problem too.
I'm on my second 3.6l. I put 130,000 miles on my 2011, and am at 112,000 miles on my 2017. Valvoline full syn at 5000 miles, the manual stated interval. I do 98% highway miles. Both run like new. It's a great engine. If I was city driving, I would change oil at 3000 miles. I get 40+ MPG (imp.) at 75mph. Caveat: These engines will really eat gas in the city if you aren't careful on the pedal.
I’ve had to replace the rad , then thermostat and then a the timing cover and now have a oil leak but otherwise runs great
Oil leak is probably oil cooler assembly issue, that looks like a trans leak, but motor oil, fix it ASAP, you risk a fire with the oil pooling in the center of the motor, known as the “valley”.
We did a thermostat when I poked a hole in my rad pulling in the Garage
160k miles in my WK2 and still going strong 👍
Now I know what to work on before boosting it 😈
For real though, the Pentastar is solid af. Compared to the horror stories I've heard from everyone in the other camps with their various V6s over the decades, Mopar really did an insanely good job on this thing. Decent power, uncannily smooth, and respectable potential too. Really a solid all 'rounder.
Agreed. My 2018 GC has 35k and I’m loving the power. It’s good to know it’s also durable 👍
On average, I condemn 2-4 of them a week. Dropping seats in the right head, timing chains, phasers, and the oil housing. They are not solid at all.
@@iamtheoffenderofall
lets do some quick math here:
Assume 4 per week from just you, that's 52ish per year multiplied by say 200 other locations also condemning 4 per week all year you get 10,400, divide by we will go with 15Mil since the video said they already hit 10Mil awhile back so lets make this easy and we get
total of .27% failure rate per year is not bad, nothing is perfect.
@@tartartar7198 quick math you neglect....at the height.. 500 per WEEK reported by dealers across the US. Cherry picking numbers will never help your case.
Lmao, by your numbers that would be 5mil engines condemned per year... hmm well we know that didn’t happen soooooo... someone is full of shit.
My 2012 Caravan had a issue around 65k with the head. Took it to a Dodge dealer and Dodge warrantied 100%. I now have 179k on it with no problems ticks, engine light. Good maintenance intervals are done.
2019 Ram 1500 3.6L v6 4x4 owner here. Bought the truck used with 51k. Currently at about 56. Took to the shop a few times after I noticed an issue when I get up to speed on highway, truck wouldn’t shift unless I let off gas. Took to dealer twice and they never found an issue. Check engine light came on ran the code and got a cylinder 4 misfire code. Took to dealer and again they found nothing. Got sent overseas recently and had my wife turn it on and sometimes drive it around. She too felt hesitation. Ask my neighbor to take for a spin he also felt it. She took it to dealer and they FINALLY said they found an issue. They replaced the transmission and the catalytic converter, issue was still there. They didn’t know what else to do so they reached out to engineers. About a month goes by and they dug into it more and said the intake camshafts were shot. They had 1 and had to order the other. That’s where I’m currently at. They asked what gas I’ve been using I said 87 from top notch gas stations. Mostly Shell. They asked if I had done anything to it I said no because I haven’t.
Anyone ever heard of these issues?
I have a 2012 V W Routan w/the 3.6. At about 120,000 miles the flywheel failed, the center completely broke out of it. Engine still ran fine but w / a nocking sound from the broken flywheel. Engine now has 140.000 miles, runs great, very smooth, great power, 20 -22 m p g.
One of the best V6 engines ever made.
They made really difficult and time consuming to replace the oil pressure switch which fails a lot. Have to remove the entire intake manifold to get to a $20 part. Was never an issue doing it in under a min on the old 4.0
I agree with that, my oil pressure sensor has been reading high for a year. No engine light yet but the replacement is far from easy
@@JJ4848 I just replaced the sensor myself, after my mechanic did the oil filter housing replacement the sensor he put in was junk, and the code returned. I bought an oem sensor from amazon and 6 hours later, I did a lot of cussing without taking the intakes off. Had to buy a special socket but saved me 350 $ from taking it to my mechanic. If you have basic tools you can do it hardest part was trying to thread the sensor while laying on top of the engine lol
Definitely one of the most reliable engines from FCA/Stellantis. But have to say if you want the V6 get the 3rd gen with ESS which resolved the problems from the previous generations. You'll find the 3rd gen only in Chrysler Pacifica, Ram 1500, Jeep Cherokee, Jeep Grand Cherokee, Jeep Wrangler, and Dodge Durango. All the other models that I didn't mention with the 3.6 V6 like the Dodge Durango, Ram 1500 Classic, and Chrysler 200 for example uses the previous generation 2nd gen Penterstar V6.
Thanks for this information. Now I know which PentaStar to be on the lookout for.
The Cherokee uses the 3.2 Pentastar
How are those new rams with the 3.6? I hear lots of good things about them.
3.6 is very reliable especially when you look at the millions produced. Still prefer the 6.2 in my Challenger.
Yea avoid any 1st and 2nd gen 3.6. I have a 2016 GrandCaravan and it had the infamous "tick". Had all cams, lifters and rockers changed due to that issue. Also bad injectors and 2 bad transmissions. I'd probably avoid most if not all Dodge/Chrysler products pre 2022, especially if you don't have a warranty worth paying for or if you're not mechanically inclined.
I'm on my third Jeep Wrangler with the 3.6L Pentastar V6 and never had a single issue with any of them. I just buy new Jeeps when they upgrade the interiors but with regular maintenance they run great.
I have a 2012 Avenger sxt+, with Pentastar V6.
A few yrs ago I ran it at a local dragstrip.
Surprisenly, turned a 14.5 sec. 1/4 mile run. Stock, well cold air intake and low restriction muffler, but that's it. Oh, 93 octane too.
I was impressed it was that quick..
Still running great @ 122k miles. I change oil/ filter myself.Use full synthetic oil and use 89 octane. Zippy little car...
Did have to replace heater core tho. Did it myself for $100. Works good.
Nice car. Rides firm, but not harsh. Good fuel mileage. Even was in a wreck. Darn solid front end..
Had a 2013 Durango with the Pentastar and put 91k on it without issue.
Whoa...a WHOLE 91 k...Gee !