Victim's Brother on Cross: 'I suppose I didn't love him enough'
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- Опубликовано: 12 дек 2023
- On cross-examination, Paul Ferguson said he'd have done anything to make his mother, Shanda Vander Ark, happy. When asked if he loved his brother, Paul said, "I suppose I didn't love him enough. That's why I’m trying to bring justice for him."
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This poor young man was mentally and emotionally so used by his mom that he just wanted to fullfiĺ her commands at all costs .He doesn't have the courage to differ about anything that he is told even from the lawyer . He trusted that his mom was right with everything she commanded him to do up to his poor brothers privates then he knew that wont be right .He should come free and get severe counselling an d his mom should pay with her life.
Thank you @CourtTV for covering this trial.
RIP Timothy 🕊
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@@susanl5682 I don't agree, he had the conscience to work a job and keep it without being fired. He had the conscience to reduce his involvement by testifying against her. He knew what he was doing was wrong but he did it anyway. I think the prosecutor's questions prove that very clearly. Yes, he is probably disturbed by all of this after the fact but while it was going on, he could have done something to help his mentally challenged brother. He even admitted it was wrong to look up to his monster of a "Mother". He knew what he was doing and he doesn't want to go to prison, that's the issue right there. Yes his monster should pay with her life but he was 19 able to work daily and knew right from wrong.
@sherrieadams1253 it's true, and he doesn't deserve to go free even though I know he was manipulated. You see, siblings do this in abusive homes sometimes. I know that in my family, even under the threat of my mother, I would not hurt my little brother. I wouldn't. I am bigger than my Mom, and the older brother in this scenario is bigger than his mom, too. He had the consciousness of mind to tell her they needed to feed him..? Why not get an Uber and drive to the police station? There are so many questions, and sadly, him admitting fault should not earn him a "get out of jail free" card. I think people are divided on this. I am, too, but the law is there for a reason. I'd feel different if he had come forth before he died, but sadly, he did not. He didn't.
Paul belongs in a hospital, not a prison. This is a severely broken human. Broken by child abuse. Profoundly sad.
Seriously this boy is just as abused as his dead brother was. I'm sure he was scared of his mother. He needs help not prison.
This whole situation sounds weird. I wouldn't be surprised if she was sexually abusing Paul
I agree!
I feel so sorry for this kid. Hate to say it but this kid having to live with this for the rest of his life, is more punishment than any charges. He definitely needs treatment and love, not prison. I’m unfamiliar with Paul but I do have to wonder if he is mildly on the spectrum.
He was in a hopeless situation. I see glimmers of integrity & a moral compass - with the best help available for an extended period of time, I think he has a chance.
I believe Paul was abused too. Tragic. The mother is flat out evil
I agree. Breaking my heart listening to him.
Where is his attorney? it is evident that Paul Ferguson has a significant cognitive deficit. Not too many points north of the mental deficient threshold.
It shows in his face and he's so thin. He feels so guilty. I hope he gets help.😢
Yes he's abused and doesn't understand things that a regular 21 yr old would. He's mentally challenged and also was abused and brainwashed. So sad they're making him think it was his fault. His so called Mom is evil!
Absolutely
The defense attempt to blame this boy is pathetic. Shame on this mother. Sacrificing another son to deflect the blame. Monster
Not surprising, but rather expected. Dont be too stressed about it, as truth comes out. Society isnt ignorant of family, its dynamics, and roles ppl play. they know full well who the mastermind of this sick situation is.
@@Gizziiusa No they don't... just read some of the comments. They think this boy is just as much at fault as the mother
If her attorney does not do a proper job, there could be a mistrial. He has to defend her to the best of his ability. He tried to put all the blame on this boy.. even if it was 100% his fault, it would also be 100% her fault. If one person robs a bank and someone gets killed.. the get away driver still gets charged with murder.
@@brendalg4he took a plea deal and admitted. She didn’t. They tried to blame him because it’s all they have. There won’t be a mistrial. Her atty has spoken publicly.
why is the other side not objecting to any of this attorney's attack and full on narration?
What’s really haunting is that this young man can sit here and take responsibility for his actions but this monster of a woman (cause I refuse to refer to her as a mother) CAN NOT!!!!
So true!!!!!
Average woman
She was only an egg donor!
@@takeshelter5313
Clarify…
She's pure evil
So basically the mother’s defense is to blame her oldest son for this. She killed one and now she trying to force a life sentence on another to save herself. This woman….I mean this monster deserves to spend her life in prison with access only to hot sauce soaked bread and cold water. The evil that exists in some homes is just unimaginable.
This irigt here whats going on is comparable to what she did to her other son. I never was so happy to know someone is in jail forever. As her. This is vile what she's letting her lawyers do to her son thar did what she told him to.. she abuses everyone and everything. This woman is hell bound for sure!!
Why so many psychopaths today?
@@mariamaria2751 She is the wh--- of Satan.
@@marysmith4811enabling..from the feds to the state.. selective outrage which pertains to my first statement.. and the gvt focusing on struggling parents vs the ones who go out of their way to hide abuse, place it on their other children and even WORK for JUDGES like this MONSTER did.. believe it. Because it's real out here.
How can you suggest that Paul is somehow a victim? Timothy was his little brother and he participated in torturing him. He could've told someone... anyone.. he did NOTHING to help his brother. He knew the things he was doing even at her direction were wrong. I have no doubt she manipulated Paul but he is trying to save his own butt here.
I can’t imagine that the mom’s attorney actually thinks this cross examination is helping his client.
Exactly! All he did was underline his client’s atrocities.
It’s not big dummy 😂😂🤣🤣
Omg seriously. This was cruel. He is obviously special need himself. He looks like he hasn’t eaten well either and he was more than likely abused prior to his little brother and he was willing to help torture him to get the bad attention off of him. Unfortunately it was his way to survive
A defense attorney has to do a good job otherwise they jeopardize the case being overturned so frankly you should want him to do a really good job because otherwise then she won't go to jail. Her case can get overturned and even thrown out if he doesn't do a good job. And frankly a lot of attorneys don't do a good job but you're never going to see it because the ones that actually try to do a good job are for huge cases like this so they don't get thrown out a lot of the rest of the small cases it's pretty much terrible court appointed attorneys.
@@GalbanolliYou guys are really strange You don't understand that he has to do a good job otherwise her case can be thrown out and overturned. You guys got issues
Paul is a huge contrast to his mother. She lies, lies, lies. Paul is achingly honest.
And yet he himself perpetuated the abuse. Paul could have stopped it. But he didn't.
Which is why the judge sentenced him appropriately.
I cannot fathom how ANY attorney could try and defend this woman!
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Guess you are totally ignorant how a normal justice system works. Granted, our system isnt perfect (none are), but EVERYONE has the right to legal counsel to represent them.
A person, however, can dismiss their respective counsel and represent themselves if he/she so wishes.
You are right about that. I just don't see how defense attorneys can live with their selves when they KNOW! I know they defend people who are not guilty. But how to justify when you know they are?
Unfortunately it's guaranteed.
What a mother...kills her son than trys to blame her other son....boy...what a mom...
well he was putting the victim in ice cold showers etc and contributing to what was going on when he could easily have gone to the police. He's evil as well
There are numerous - numerous cases of victims like this those whom have been kidnapped those who are trafficked - those that are raised in a gang family - those that use their kids to commit crimes it’s everywhere . I’m sure if he left or told anyone do you think he’d be believed ? His mother probably used her working for the court as an authority over him .. look at her with her childish braids tring to appear all prim .
. Stockholm syndrome
Evil evil . I hope the husband can speak even tho he had a stroke and is not living in that house - wonder what was done to the other little one named G
@@60toodlesThat's a very immature comment. He's abused himself, unless you have been in that position it's difficult to understand. He was also living in constant fear. His actions are despicable but there are mitigating factors.
@60toodles not everyone knows to go to the police or authorities
I know right!!!!!!!!! She is so fkn disgusting to allow her lawyer to bagger her other son and blame his death on
Does the defence attorney think this approach will help his client?! Literally made this young man seem more credible, and his client even guiltier if that’s possible.
I totally agree.
Exactly who is on trial here? As if this kid had a choice. Sick Mother. Prison is to good for her.
He's obviously having a hard time trying to defend his horrible client cause he's rambling on .. where everyone else is speaking loud and clear. He's a muttering mess. He's probably trying to confuse Paul even more
Her attorney wants her in jail as much as the rest of us. She's not very bright, she has no clue
He is evil too.
I am both a special educator and a survivor of child abuse. My family had a similar dynamic to this one, though it did not reach these extremes. This young man needs an evaluation. While exceptional ed professionals cannot diagnose, I am seeing signs of exceptionalities. I would refer him for an Autism screening. He seems to have high cognitive functioning, but there seem to be some auditory processing inconsistencies. I am positive that he has extreme emotional and behavioral needs resulting from trauma. I would want this young man to receive every bit of treatment and therapy possible to support his further development and recovery. What an awful situation for all of those children!
Agreed!
This is the identical comment I made on a different video.
His lawyer did an injustice to him/ probably wanted to be able to say he was apart of this tragic trial. Paul has emotional and intellectual deficiencies; it’s clear as day. He will say what he has to but he has been programmed as a Stockholm Syndrome victim: Yes , times he spoke of concern for his brother but he is not evil/ his mind is fd up and his mother will have him take the fall.
Justice for Timothy should’ve included a fair psych evaluation for further assessment for punishment regarding Pauls arrested development / They failed Paul.
Now everyone in prison will take away whatever is left .
Imagine how incentivized she made it for him to deny and hide his autism.
I remember watching an interview with David Peltzer (A child called 'It'). His brother participated in his torture, but he said he didnt blame him for one second, as he was only trying to please his mother and was so relieved to not be the mothers victim.
The brother never forgave himself.
I think this is very similar. It's just so sad that Timothy can never speak out as i wonder if he would also forgive his brother.
May the mother rot in hell.
Ah that book is an excellent example of this case
You have to ask what happened to this woman to become so broken herself....
While watching the interrogation I thought of this book as well
I read that book in school and never forgot it. This mother is sick. I hope those woman in jail set her straight 😉
That was one of my favorite books growing up . A circle of children was a great book too .
"I STAND BY IT" profound. I believe him. His mother is an absolute monster. Prayers for all abused children.
I apologize and can see how guilty the mother is. I just can’t understand any excuse for the life of me, how his behavior and actions are even remotely believable or excusable!
15yr old boy weighing 65 lbs?!?!? I think he was resentful about having to care for him.
@@valeriekiselewski1886my opinion on him is he was abused as well. You can tell how afraid of her he still is and you can tell by the way the answers questions that he has mental health issues as well.
@@valeriekiselewski1886look at him he looks so deprived of food and life and nutrition his oh an self. One that don’t is a white girl wanting to wish she was black that has horrific ways of living
I like the way the Judge is watching over poor Paul
Why did the brothers and sisters not do anything to save him that is so shocking.
This Defense lawyer managed to remove any doubt I had about the honesty of this kid. This young man has been abused and psychologically he is traumatized. He is clearly pained by the realities of his own actions and is remorseful and horrified at the outcome. His mother makes me wonder how someone so depraved and cruel and without empathy, would think that throwing up and having a panic attack in court, will buy her sympathy. No ma'am. We are ready to vomit also. This young man needs intense counseling and a safe place to heal. This woman ...I'll leave her to God.
Well said! I completely agree with you!! I don’t think she is capable of thinking of anyone but herself.
@Amy-oc2ui:
God will not punish her, as god doesn't exist.
@@zoep.2891 I believe He does. We can disagree. Either way, her fate is left to the justice system at this point in time.
@@zoep.2891I certainly understand that at times in our lives it SEEMS that God doesn't exist, and we are on our own but after finding a loving Christian church Congregation and teaching their children for years, it's very plain there is a God and we are given the free will to either accept the fact there is a Creator God that we have obligations to, or alternatively we can live like there is no God and no accountability.
There are many, many arguments for the existence of God and ai urge you to seek them if your open to it. The Universe with its natural laws of Physics (I completed my PhD Physics coursework at Purdue University) screams for the Creator God! The constants that bound the various forces in nature (gravity, electricity and magnetism, strong and weak nuclear forces) are so fine-turned that if we were a tiny but stronger or weaker we don't have the Universe and we don't have the 92 elements. There are many, many other compelling arguments and they ALL point the same direction (toward a GOD). The one ultimate proof there is a God and God is loving and just, is that God sent us GOD in human form (Jesus) to help teach us the way to live and love each other and mankind nailed Jesus to a Cross and killed him as a loving act of contrition. God then brought Jesus back to life through RESSURECTION and this even was recorded on his burial cloth known as the SHROUD of TURIN.
I'm an expert in ionizing radiation detection and measuring nuclear weapons in my 34 year National Laboratory career, and the SHROUD image of a Crucifed man validates all the GOSPEL accounts and the only way to create the image TODAY is with a high energy particle accelerator not available till 1980!!
Either the SHROUD was made by ALIENS, or it's actually the genuine burial cloth of Jesus and the image was formed miraculously as Jesus was brought back from RIGOR MORTIS death to life!
Amen! Spot on! 🙏🏻
My heart aches for this young man and his deceased brother. They were both so horribly abused.
Do you know the things he participated in against his younger brother? Plenty of children are abused and are not complicit in abuse.
My heart àches for the poor little boy an all the horrible things this evil man did to him
People NEED to understand that the same spirit raised them both. Cruel, sadistic, merciless, relentless, beyond narcisstic, psychopathic. Yet, there are shards of mercy shining through. This man is a victim and needs support and long, intense, comprehensive rehabilitaion from c-ptsd from abuse.
He was raised by his father. Moved in with his mother when he was 18. I believe he was groomed though.
I could not agree more.
He's not a victim
He loves his Mother because she allowed him to leech of off her and fill his disturbing twisted thoughts. He watched his little brother shower, bathe, with no shower curtain.
Instead he got 30-100 years
HES HELPING US HATE HER EVEN MORE. AND hes helping us see her psychological abuse on the older brother.
Yeah between this and the opening statement, her lawyer is…not great
He needs prison too
@@elishh8173 He needs mental care. You need compassion.
This comment wins!!! You’re SO RIGHT!!!!
@@nicoley8844Absolutely!! He's definitely autistic as well. I fully believe he's in the spectrum based on many things I see. My 16 year old son is autistic and acts very similar to him. This is so horrible and heart breaking.
How does a mother become so disgustingly diabolical as to starve, torture, deprive her children of any love, comfort, support, devoid of any compassion or emotion other than pure evilness. She sounds like she enjoyed traumatizing her children, because this young man seems like he has been abused as well.
I'm wondering why the Father didn't visit or ask that he talks to his children as well. If one person would have shown up to just stop and say, do you need something? Paul has definitely been abused
@@beejoy42Paul sounds like a guy who wants to be love like a 8 years old and only has good intentions but easy to control and brainwash sadly
Paul, crecio con falta de Amor. Tiene una actitud de un niño de 10años ,😥 manipulado de su Madre. Y de seguro abusado de madre😥 Paul le tiene mucho MIEDO a su Madre!!! Vean el video y vean como voltea a ver a su Madre con MIEDO 😥 que triztesa y dolor😥
Because all it takes it a uterus and female psychopaths have one
A Child Called It
Trying to deflect guilt from the mother onto this young man is another crime!!
Guilt is something someone feels. It's not something a defense attorney "deflects" onto someone else. And attorneys are required by law and their oath to defend their clients. Establishing doubt that the mother is 100% culpable is an expected defense tactic. It most certainly isn't a crime, though it is disgusting.
They are both guilty.
Conspiracy to torture a child, and conspiracy to alter evidence are also crimes......Both of which he committed willingly
I absolutely understand what it feels like to be 'too afraid to put my foot down'.
Been there myself while growing up. Not to the extent of Timothy, but fear is debilitating.
Coward
Absolutely. My mom was extremely strict…. No where near this and was not abusive by any means and I was scared to stand up to her. I can’t even imagine what these boys have seen and have gone through.
This makes her look guilty as hell. If I were on the jury this cross-examination would have been a massive condemnation of their mother for me.
She watched him wither to a shadow of his former self. She had custody, so she was by herself guilty.
She physically destroyed one, and mentally destroyed the other. I hope you find help, healing, and a peaceful good life, Paul. Don't let her turn you into a bad guy
I wonder the extent to which she ruined the youngest one!
Are you kidding me he helped
So many people are making excuses for him. Probably all boy moms.
Exactly she has ruined Paul and he is just as much a victim as Timothy!! I wished Shanda would get the punishment exactly as she done to Timothy!!
@@00ooooo216Paul looks severely underweight himself and is not responding as a typical 20 year old. He is legally an adult, but showing typical signs of childhood trauma
This poor boy is so broken from his mother’s abuse. He lived in fear and control of his mother. I hope he gets some professional help to heal from this
He is a grown man who didn't grow up in his mother's care. He is complicit and deserves jail time.
That lawyer is AWFUL it’s painful to listen to him stutter and try to pin the blame on him alone
This makes me feel sick to my stomach, and the part I hate the most is that her living conditions in prison will be better than what she gave her son.
I don't think so. Inmates despise child killers, and with the notoriety this case has been getting, she'll have a huge target on her back. Most correctional officers are parents too, and don't think much of opening doors for inmates who want to get at child predators. Even in PC, she can still get it.
This is absolute heartbreaking and criminal...Paul is clearly mentally challenged and has been manipulated by his mother to abuse his brother until he ultimately died. This woman is twisted and pure evil.
I’ve been watching for about 3 mins and picked up on all of this. I hope he’s getting what ever support he needs.
I agree, clearly Paul is on the spectrum and was even more susceptible to being manipulated by his mother. Tragic, I'm sure the youngest has also be traumatized in some way.
I have autism spectrum disorder and several other people in my family do too. Paul’s manner of speech, his lack of eye contact, his body movements, his inappropriate smiling, his willingness to do what his stepmom or whoever that woman is to him, said…..I wonder if he’s on the spectrum.
The mom gave numerous orders via text. The mom was forcing Paul to do humiliating things to Tim like standing without anything on below the waist, with his hands on his head or taking an ice bath naked…..this is all SOOOOOO wrong.
Paul’s mother is a monster. He is probably lucky he wasn’t abused like Tim.
I think probably 50% of this could be true. 50% is probably trying to make himself feel less guilty.
Was the father in the house or just the monster and Paul, Timothy and G? Was the father in nursing care after the stroke?
@@WyattRyeSwayIt was just the evil witch and 3 sons. It was covered in a previous video, where he was testifying too
he didn't seem "mentally challenged" at all during this exchange to me, what do you mean by that?
This young man is severely troubled. His mother assured that he would never have a mind of his own. He has been conditioned and I do not think he would ever have been able to live on his own. This monster of a “mother” has not only killed one son, but has poisoned the lives of her remaining children. She is pathetic!
As a young child, I was forced to stand up all night, beatings with electric cords, food withheld for days, I resorted to digging food out of the garbage can and stealing food because I was so hungry. My sibling and I were forced to stand on one leg with arms raised for hours. We were forced to take cold baths and my head was dunked in the toilet. Fortunately I survived but had to take care of my mother when she became elderly. Although there was some love,when she passed I was relieved.
Must still have an effect on you, I grew up with some of those, but I'd say not as bad.
Hugs
Wow why would you take care of that monster? I would think the last thing you would want is intimate contact like that as a care giver. Im sorry that you suffered so much.
He took care of her because he is NOTHING like his mother and knows how to show care and love the right way. It takes a mature, strong and GOOD MAN to not allow the monstrosity of others to rub off on them. By looking after her...he is choosing a different path for himself than the one his mother chose for him when she was meant to care for him. That's LOVE ❤️ I hope God blesses him and looks after him too 🙏
It's horrible, but u was right there with you.
Some people are cruel. I could never do that to my kids
So sorry you had to go through that. Forgiveness is the most powerful thing in life for your own well being. You still made it anyway. You can definitely help others who face this.
The defense forgets that this boy was not the husband/ father of the household. He was himself a young man
Keywords... A young man, not a kid
@@brutuscarpathia9638 who probably spent his ENTIRE childhood under the wrath of an abusive psychopath
@@TM-173 That's actually incorrect. Paul has just moved in with her a year before Timothy got there
Yeah, where is her husband in all of this? Hopefully in jail
@@brutuscarpathia9638 Yeah, well he looked pretty thin to me. I never heard her say she cooked a family meal. She's merde.
She didnt start with Paul, I believe that this vile woman has controlled and abused all of her family, just different degrees.
She said she hadn’t seen her only daughter in years. Are all her 5 kids by different dads?
Also, I would be checking into why her oldest son Adam had a stroke? Was it because he was so dehydrated it caused a stroke? THIS IS UNREAL..LIKE I ALWAYS TOLD MY DAUGHTER YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT GOES ON BEHIND CLOSED DOORS WHEN SHE WOULD SAY Mommie why can't we live in that big pretty house.
@@shereeowens3470 Adam was not her son. He was her second husband and the youngest sons dad. The son they call G.
Agreed .. she wasn't even supposed to have custody according to CPS
I picked up on that also. In addition to that she also has 2 sisters she hasn't spoken to in years. Speaks volumes.@@susiefoxy8130
Shame on her for putting him through this!!!
The attorney doesn’t have a choice because he has to defend her and this is the path she has chosen. The fact that she tortured one child, thought a jury would believe her that he DESERVED it and then proceeds to torture another child (mentally and emotionally he presents as a child) truly makes her the most vile person on the planet.
Let's be honest... He doesn't HAVE to defend her. He chose to defend her and take this case. He is willing participant in this smear campaign against the boy in the stand AND the dead boy. Yeah, he has a job, but he chose it
He has a choice. He could pretend she's mentally ill instead of also choosing to abuse a child with disabilities. He's not nearly as bad as her but he has the same illness.
This is painful to watch, this young man was raised in an insane household. This young man must live with this the rest of his life and as he is away from his inconceviable cruel mother and starts seeing reality he will suffer. This is cruelty to both sons.
He wasn't. He only lived with Shanda for one year
This is a 21 year old MAN, who participated in the torture and murder of his brother. He's not innocent.
Breaks my heart. It appears to me that Paul was abused as well . I was raised in fear and so was Paul. After so many years of that abuse, I was scared to death. Scared into silence. A parent that manipulates a young kid's mind should be locked up for good. I hope that Paul gets the therapy that he needs and loves himself at least somewhat. Lock HER up
Big hug from Arizona to you, Kathy. ❤
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Hope you are healing Kathy. Best of luck to you!
None of us raise ourselves, we are all a product of our environment. Not even our genes determine our final form, our society, environment, and caretakers do. I'm sorry society didn't do enough for you. I'm sorry I couldn't. And the same for both these boys, their people failed them as well.
Me too
Bet her boss judge feels like a fool having her as an employee.
I'm sure he's angry and embarrassed but many people lead double lives.
Wonder how much other corruption she is responsible for - forging documents and who knows what . People like that usually have committed other crimes
I wonder what judge she worked for in Muskegon.
We should look up that judge's rulings and so on, to see if there are any similarities.
This defence lawyer is a disgrace, he can barely string a sentence together. I feel so sorry for Paul, he is trying to make ammends and will have to live this for the rest of his life, while she doesn't have a drop of conscious or remorse. She abused them both and her levels of control are terrifying. May Timothy rest in piece, what an awful awful waste.
The defense attorney is a disgrace? At least he can spell. Making fun of someone saying he can barely put a sentence together, while you demonstrate that you can barely spell basic words. Defence? 😆
@@jillijane9793 you must be related too or a Co worker to this attorney, because you sure are riding hard for him in comments on here. Also the keyboard warrior you keep referring too on these threads is the one attacking the overwhelmingly large number of people for sharing their opinion on his performance..... right down to attacking them for not spelling corectly. Pathetic🤔
This lawyer saying he had an opportunity to bring him home food from work?! He probably figured hed get punished too! Come on dude
When I was little, my mother used to abuse me and torture me mentally, verbally. I believed everything she told me. I used to cry every day, I wanted to end my life when she told me no matter what age I was, she was going to follow me everywhere I went, I believed her.
Well, this guy had it worst than me. I believe he is not guilty of what happened to his brother, he was manipulated by his mother. He doesnt need society to punish him more, he needs help.
I agree Bella Valentine, and hugs to you.
Oh, my God.
I am so sorry.❤
Bless you Bella.
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I'm so sorry that you went through all that. I really appreciate you articulating what was going on with you mentally and emotionally because I believe this young man was brainwashed by his monstrous mother. I don't understand how some people can say he's just as much to blame when it is crystal clear what the situation was. I don't get how people can lack that much empathy or even intuition. So, thank you for sharing 🙏
Praying that you have found some kind of peace with all that has happened to you. Sending hugs 🫂 🤗 🙏⭐️❤️
Crazy how this cross-examination was supposed to make her appear less guilty.
I think this defense is a genius but also kind. However this can jeopardize her getting put away.
Not less guilty. Just make him loom less credible
He a bum attorney, must be a court appointed 🥴
You can absolutely be terrified by someone and want to make them proud and love you all at the same time. It’s called love bombing and that mother is absolutely the definition of a controlling narcissist. I hate what’s happened but I do believe this poor young man has endured so much psychological abuse that he is conditioned to believe his mother with every word she speaks.
That's how it was with my mother. I would hate her but still want her to be proud of me. She never seemed to me. I was a good kid, didn't get into any major trouble and kept my grades decent. It still wasn't enough.
@@nicolekear3911Same. Then my parents would compare me to other relatives or other people that done good or achieved something great on the news, i suppose if i was like them people they still would call me a failure.
Its not love bombing its narcissistic conditioning and positive reinforcement. He came from his dads strict abuse and was starving fir acceptance which she used to manipulate him into doing her dirty work!
Her lawyer is an absolute disgrace. He's basically trying to demolish the character of an abused child for the sake of a woman who is clearly a monster. This lawyer is a shining example of what people hate most about defense lawyers who defend the indefensible. What a scumbag. Not as bad as the mother, but it appears he's trying to catch up
i thought the same what a shameles human
@AstronomicallyHuman Yes that defense Attorney made me sick. He knew just like everybody else she was a monster!!
NO WAY, AND HERE IS WHY...I once had an argument with a defense attorney, because I didn't know how he could live with himself defending the indefensible. Through the conversation I realized a few things. We are entitled to a rigorous defense. Would you not want one? Would you want him to leave out some key info, and her be able to get a mistrial, or not be able to be prosecuted because of it (DOUBLE JEOPARDY)? He did his job.
He knew she would be found guilty, but he had to do his job. He did it well enough, so the truth would be shown to the jury, and no one could say her defense was inadequate. Notice the prosecution didn't come to Paul's rescue? What was said, needed to be said.
The ridiculousness of her defense had to be highlighted by a participating witness and well-crafted questions. No appeals here, he did a good job. She will be in jail for the rest of her life, as she should.
Don't judge him negatively for being good at his job. The prosecution and defense did good work here, and because of that, she should have zero basis to get out of jail. Focus your disgust on her, not the attorney. I don't know in this case, but often times defense attorneys are assigned to cases, they don't have room to choose.
Further, there are some videos I've seen where he completely turns his back to her while they are next to each other. I don't think this is the client he would want to represent based on that and the questioning.
@@shawna1278 totally agree. If he didn’t do the best job that he could do, then she could appeal the guilty verdict later, based on this. The burden of proof is on the prosecution. I feel her lawyer did his job while indirectly highlighting her guilt at the same time.
@@Ang44K.333 Yes.
The fact that he is more comfortable getting yelled at by this attorney than he was being treated kindly by the other speaks volumes. He is used to confrontation and untrusting of compassion.
I noticed that, too. Good observation.
Yes!!!!! He didn't ask this lawyer to "reiterate."
This lawyer is horrible…stutters, coughs, stupid questions, rattling papers…poor kid
He’s in his 70’s.
What?? People can’t stutter or cough?
Not to mention he started saying the youngest child’s name instead of referring to him as G to protect his privacy!
What does stuttering have to do with his questioning. U do know ppl that stutter is a disability right??
@@fulofcharmso is autism.
This is the best witness. He is speaking from his broken heart.
He is trautimized, gaunt, coming out of brain-washing and gaslighting. A nightmarish situation for his terribly abused brother, may he rest in peace.❤❤❤
He literally always looked like that. This man will offend again and use his autism as an excuse. Also defending the pedo that SA a disabled child? Disgusting
Obviously Paul was abused too. This is just sickening
He was abused too!!!!! This attorney is infuriating..you can tell he has delays as well..I have 3 disabled kids and can spot it easily..this young man was abused,used,and forced to do what he did to his brother..this mother is an evil monster ..this whole case makes me feel sick..i could never and would never hurt a hair on my kids head ..she is evil 💩
As a sister of an special needs adult I agree….. sending you lots of love and may god bless you always and your 3 angels 🙏🏻
I agree. My nephew is also high functioning, speaks well. My nephew mostly appears "normal". One minute into the video and I see the similarities.
The attorney is doing his job but yes there is too much evidence to convince any judge or jury that that disgusting woman is innocent and it’s his brothers fault
Unfortunately, that’s his job. Be glad that he’s going this hard for her, because she won’t be able to file an appeal for ineffective counsel.
Believe me, I’m sickened by what he’s doing to Paul, too. He clearly has special needs, and he’s most definitely a victim of hers as well.💔😔
@@j.antoinette9942 my teenage son is the same. It’s the matter of fact answering and the fidgeting. It’s a sad sad case. 🥺
The little brother actually said "this is not love"? That's heart-breaking.
No, the detective told Paul that what his “mama” was doing was not love because Paul kept saying in the interview “WE loved him” over and over.
Defense lawyers are some of the worst people in the legal system. The way they attempt to warp the truth for their clients is sickening. This man actually tried to make the mother a caring martyr with too much on her plate, rather than a sadist who killed one child and turned another into a accessory.
It's their job. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be able to do it morally, but you also dont want your defense called into question during an appeal.
They're job is to create doubt. As gross as it feels, someone has to do it. We need to remember that there are actually innocent people who go to trial for things they didn't do even though it seems cut and dry that they did it.
To be crystal clear, I think this woman is a monster and it's awful that she would allow her attorney to do this
That’s their job and a necessary part of justice being serviced. There are lawyers for both sides. It’s the juries job to take all evidence presented into consideration, including both sides of the argument. From the verdicts, it appears the jury did their jobs, the judge, and so did all the attorneys.
@@mashleyden the justice system is deeply flawed. There is no justice in misrepresenting the truth. It is a false defense.
@@mashleyden- it's possible too that a defence lawyer, who has to defend a client while knowing how guilty they are, can subtly elicit more dambing information against a client on cross examination.
As the daughter of a defense attorney, I will have to disagree. My father is an amazing man and works hard for his clients. He is there to make sure they are treated fairly and receive a fair trial, which is everyone’s constitutional right! Maybe this man is awful, but please don’t lump all together.
He was under his mother’s manipulation. He seems immature mentally.
Autistic 100%
This is so, so sad. This young man clearly has some special needs as well, and she used him to do her evil dirty work. I hope there’s help for him.
Totally agree 😢
This kid testifying will do life behind bars. Prosecution using him just like his mom did. He has no idea what’s even happening.
I agree. He probably did everything his evil mother told him to do just to please her. So sad. You can tell he’s not all there.
What makes you think he’s special needs?
@@slconleyit was one of the questions the jurors came back with and indeed he does have special needs. (Special needs come in various forms - sister of a special needs adult)
This poor young man was abused just in different ways. This is her fault. I really hope he gets hospitalized and intense therapy not prison. She broke this young man. What a disgusting excuse of a mother.
His testimony breaks my heart. As someone raised by domineering, narcissistic, abusive parents, it breaks you down. The term he was searching for was “trauma bond”… not trauma over his brother, the trauma from his own abuse and constant seeking for approval. To have made the realizations he has at such a young age and then to take complete ownership of his actions, in spite of the fact that he was also a victim, it shows he never would have done such things on his own. Where his mother is faking all of her emotions about Timothy, it is clear Paul is not. I hope he gets time served and a good therapist.
This defense attorney is disgusting. Going after one abused child to justify another's abuse and death. NOOOO. That woman will do life in prison and this poor boy needs a life time of therapy.
I agree 💯%..I have faith in the jury that her arse is going away for a really long time🙏 Justice for her children. They are all victims!
Pretty clear too see how this case will end. It will be fast and swift.
I agree, but the man is just doing his job. He obviously doesn't have much to work with, and this young man is the key. I also think he's going a bit easy on Paul, specifically because he doesn't want to put off the jury.
I don't know how some of these defense attorneys can do what they do, especially with monsters like this "mother."
I bet he has a hard time sleeping tonight. It's true - the mother is without defense.@@Claudia-lq3ns
I totally agree with you this boy needs therapy he needs love his mother was a monster
I grew up with a mother who is similar to his. My heart breaks for this young man. Once I was old enough I realized that my mother couldn’t love all of us kids at the same time. One of us was always targeted and hated. We would be pitted against the “bad” child. We would be rewarded for agreeing with her and being unkind to the current targeted child.
This never stopped. Even into adulthood it remained. She just can’t love all of us at the same time. My mother is very elderly now and I see how messed up we all are. She still tries to pull the typical theatrics but we don’t allow it. We don’t have any family gatherings or holidays together. Everyone has broken off into their own family and everyone does their own thing now. My older siblings have their own grandchildren so they have holidays for their immediate families, my mother isn’t invited or included. Which on one hand seems so very sad but it’s actually for the best. Holidays and birthdays were never focused on that, the focus and energy was on who was hated at the time. Angry attitude, cussing, yelling, name calling or just flipping off the target. Always stressful and heartbreaking.
I know many people are blaming this young man as much as the mother. He is partially to blame, yes absolutely. But he clearly seems to be intellectually delayed a bit. He may also have autism or other mental disorders. I can understand how he was manipulated by his mother. Manipulated and brainwashed into going along with her punishments. I can bet he was rewarded for being cruel to his brother. Those may have been the only times he was ever shown love and acceptance by his mom. It’s hard to understand being raised by someone like that. It warps you. Warps your reality. This young man can see clearly now. He will have to live with the guilt and shame of what he’s done under the control of his mother. Even as an adult you can feel trapped, alone, afraid and can’t stand up to your abusive parent.
Like my mother too and family
Like my mom and family as well, except I was always the target until we reached adulthood, then she targeted one of my sisters.
Sounds like we had the same mother. As adults, we’re all messed up psychologically and socially. Even my father was afraid of my mother.
@@carolraymond1845 I always say I love my mom but she is very hard to love.
People who have grown up in more normal type of homes just can’t understand why this young man listened to and went along with his mother’s treatment of Timothy. It’s so easy to judge and criticize when you’ve had a more normal life. I can clearly see how she warped and manipulated him.
He’s a victim of hers too.
That young man looks very under weight, & EXTREMELY frightened & intimidated.
I feel so bad for paul. I sincerely do. What sort of life he had forced on him. And he now has to face the consequence of his brother dying. Poor guy, i think he needs a heck of a lot of counselling now to come to terms not only with the loss of his brother, but the trauma of being utterly stuck in a stockholm situation under the hands of his evil mother. I really feel bad for this young man.
The most telling part of all of that, the one that REALLY reinforced the fact that he was being honest, is when he mentioned giving his brother a PB&J and some eggs with cheese. He didn't look towards the jury. He looked, with panic, at his mother. For revealing that he gave Timothy food... I understand that Paul needs to be punished, but I hope that mitigating factors are looked at and that he gets some serious, serious help. I don't believe he would've hurt anyone on his own... Yet another life impacted by the mother's actions. I cannot excuse his role, but I can almost understand how he got there. The burden of guilt and shame that belongs to his mother will rest on his conscience instead of hers. I only hope that he's able to be rehabilitated, but his life ended the moment he ended up at her doorstep.
Putting this poor kid through this trial, much less arresting him too, is inhumane. Hes been a victim of his sociopathic mother his entire life. I hope someone helps him.
Sad, extremely hard to watch. Agree, he's been abused
It’s so sad. He also clearly has some sort of diagnosis that his mother has never gotten him.
The lawyer was awful to him and I’m sure the jurors hate him now as I do. I mean the texts! She is the MOTHER Not him. Ridiculous
Poor kid? He abused his brother too.He could have call 911 anytime and get help,but choose not to.He is guilty too.
I Echo your words this poor child I hope they find him innocent and give him the help he needs
💯👍🏻
He looks so thin and pale from no sun. A sign of unhealthy household at the very leaset and likely neglect and abuse to this boy too. Mother may be a psychopath and should go to prison for life, due to torture she instigated.
He looks starved too. 😢
He new how to lie to save his arse but didn't know how to save his brother. Abuse is abuse. He did not care for his brother or had any remorse for his brother to even want to help his brother......he is as guilty as his mother....
You know, my son has autism. On a couple of occasions, I’ve hurt myself very badly right in front of him. And he didn’t even notice. Smashed my head on the back of the lock on the trunk of our car. Getting some things out of it. I actually shouted I was only a foot away from him. And he was looking in the other direction. Now I’m not talking about someone who doesn’t have complete, verbal and high functioning abilities. While my son has autism, he is capable of communication like anybody else. But he didn’t even notice. I sat through a whole movie with my back and spasms rocking back-and-forth trying to be quiet while we were in the movie theater because I wanted him to be able to finish the movie. All the way home I was moaning. He never noticed anything was wrong. I don’t think you can judge this young man, the same way you judge every normal person.because he probably lives in a different world. I could give you many more examples, but I won’t bother.
This is heartbreaking , and her son paul was brainwashed by his mother and used to do her dirty work. She knew what she was doing
Yes exactly
Agree 100%!
Agree
She absolutely preyed on his vulnerability. And realizing what he did under her manipulation is tearing him up. Good on him for taking accountability and keeping it a buck in the courtroom.
@@janayh2817 People so quick to say he's just as evil. I dont think he is evil. The kid never had a chance! Can you imagine the abuse he has went through
those children deserve a loving family not some monster parent
Why did he not get any water to drink in the trial like his mother did?!? 🥺 Poor boy! 🙏🏻 He needs someone to tell him that his life is precious and he is loved!
Because his mother have all the camera to see what’s going on inside the house. This kid is mentally tortured and scared of his mom that’s why he can’t have best judgement
@@stephaniesagumhe should have gone to the police to save his brother. I'm glad he's going to be locked away for a long time. This man is a danger to children.
Wait, is this defense saying that this man should have snuck food home for the boy because his mother wouldn't feed him?!?! How is that a defense. "Well, sure, the mother wasn't feeding him and using food to abuse this child, but why didn't you, other abused child, sneak food to him"?
BECAUSE ITS NOT HIS JOB TO CARE FOR HIS BROTHER.
This lawyer is a joke. Making this guy also guilty doesn't make his client less culpable.
He's grasping at straws because there is no legitimate defense.
This guy looks tortured inside 😮
I feel so sad for him. When he sat down on the stand and saw how skinny he is, that broke my heart. He and his brother Timothy RIP, may they help Paul recover mentally with all the abuse from this monster, who didn't care about the kids. I pray she rots in hell.
Looks annoyed to me
@@irisy2jjthis guy is a monster inside
This may be the very first time I watched a witness on the Stand and 100% believe he/she is being completely honest. You can tell that every thing he is saying is 100% the truth.
Everything except the part he says he cooked him an ommelette and put cheese in it. That is not consistent with him following his mother's orders, it is self serving. If he was game to go against his mother's wishes in this one thing then why never otherwise? Even to pull the pizza roll away from him when his brother was on the brink of death by starving and torture. That one aspect of his evidence is not credible.
@@jesabeltwin5051actually it is. He knew a camera was watching. And he wasn't raised in a good home so he didn't realize what would happen when he wasn't getting enough food. I don't think he knew his brother would die from what he was told to do. And all the text proved he was being brainwashed. And told what to think. He knew he was skinny that's what triggered the picture and him sneaking him food but it doesn't prove he knew he would die from it. And I'm sure his mother was telling him he was okay. All the text proved he was being brainwashed so why would he think any different than what she told him. He risked sneaking him food. He still needs some sort of punishment and he knows that. He said he didn't love him enough, so he can see what was happening since he got away from the situation.
I absolutely agree. This is a broken boy finally free of Shanda. He doesn’t even call her mother.
@@shandelebroyles1099 I believe he is verbalizing something someone said to him, maybe during an interrogation. They must have asked if he loved his brother and when he answered "yes" they probably went on saying he didn't love his brother enough because he didn't help him. Then when the lawyer asked he repeated what that person told him. That sounded like a repetitive script. He obviously feels guilt over, so he agrees with it and is now telling the court basically saying "I realized I was a bad brother because I didn't notice the danger he was in and I must not have loved him enough because I didn't save him but I want to bring him justice now." If he had better ability to communicate, this is what I see from his honesty, actions and speech. I think he did love his brother. But other people are explaining to him that that's not how love is. As someone on the spectrum and with a child on these types of things happen to us a lot and because we don't verbally speak what's actually in our mind well, we have words that we pick from other people and past situations to help us get our thoughts and points out better. If you go back and listen, you can tell what he's trying to say. But you've got to listen with logic and not anger and emotions. The way he says it is not how a typical person would say something like that.
Except when he agreed with the lawyer that he lied....
Wow! That's just sad. He needs help, as much as his dead brother. That women is pure evil! She has DISTROYED those kids.
This boy needs lots of love and hugs. God bless you my child, it's not your fault for anything that happened. Where the hell is the father, he needs him. Please God look after this young man. I send him my love from Sydney Australia xxxooo
I believe it was his father that sent him back to live with his mother. Both boys had been living with him for a while, I'm not sure how many years at each home.
“Sympathy slid in and out” is the most heartbreaking and telling statement. As Shanda’s other victim, forced to administer much of the torture, Paul’s brain would have broken into a million pieces if sympathy didn’t sometimes slide out.
He’s was and is an adult! He made a plea deal to save his behind
@@kathybrem880He’s obviously abused and on the spectrum. I’m sure his mind is younger than normal.
@@belleslettres354 So many ignorant people that don't see this. And it doesn't take someone like me with a 16 year old autistic son to see it. I feel like it's very obvious. And he's definitely not a monster. The fact he snuck food and disobeyed at times speaks volumes for someone with autism and who is also being abused. Such a sad situation.
@kathybrem880:
You commented the same to quite a few posts. We got it, you want Paul to get severly punished, not taking in to consideration, that Paul suffered abuse from his mother as well. He probably got mistreated as a child, but her manipulation him in to assisting her in torturing his brother is also abuse.
I hope for you and the people around you, that you'll develop empathy at some point in your life.
@@zoep.2891 she didn't even raise him as a child you people are so stupid
He lied bc he’s scared of that evil thing that birthed those 2 boys. I can not even call her a mother. How the f can you possibly do this to your own children!!! Paul has severe PTSD. I pray to God he finds peace one day 😢 and this attorney is disgusting 😡
She had 5 children
@@laurahoward5426 WHAT! It’s been very hard for me personally to follow every detail of this case. Where are the other children??? I am at a lose for words.
@@AllisonNelson-zu2bx 2 older...one daughter ...then Paul, Timothy and Gabriel or "G"....she Is 44
This poor kid. This is just like the Harvard prison experiment. Except this kid was literally conditioned to follow his mother’s instructions or expect torture. He just happened to live through it, and his poor brother didn’t.
Shanda reminds me of my maternal grandmother who was a sadist and targeted my moms older sister. My grandfather stood by and did nothing, claiming, “I loved your mother dearly, and if I lost one child, I still had two more”. Throughout my childhood and early adulthood there was always drama and estrangement between my mother, my auntie (the victim), and my uncle. My mother suffered from mental illness and substance abuse up until the point she took her own life a few years ago. I know deep down, the things she witnessed as a child contributed to her tortured adulthood. My evil grandmother died years ago, but my auntie still vies for the love and affection of my grandfather all these years later. Children just want to be loved by a parent.
You can tell by his body language there is so much more he wanted to say at 22 minutes in. The fact that his moms lawyer is grilling him like this is insane..
Oh ok body language experrts
Actually it's pretty common when you're being asked questions to want to say more and think about it later and wish you said something. This is an insane case. I don't understand why you have to be condescending to people who are only trying to make sense of this atrocious situation. Praying for you xx@@Derpherppington
People use condescension to make themselves feel better. But to be sarcastic and nasty on top of that is just being a plain old garden variety bully.@@Sweptbythesea
@@Claudia-lq3nsagreed
He did his client no favors with this cross. Made her look guilty as hell. The jury will be even more sympathetic to the son on the stand after that cross.
He tried to discredit him out the gate by having him admit he initially lied to detectives. That backfired though when he admitted it was to cover for his mom, per her instruction. Fortunately he had enough empathy inside of him to admit he was wrong for doing so and that he finally "cracked" and admitted what really happened and said He wants justice for his brother.😢
I'm sure the detectives assured him he was finally safe to come clean; that she could nolonger hurt him.
Anyone with a brain can clearly see, he too has been deeply abused and is terrified of her.
Absurd that the mother’s attorney treats this poor son this way. This boy has clearly been abused and manipulated by his mother.
Just imagine the horror she put him through. Sickening nightmare living hell.
I know any normal mom wld never allow that ever.
Now her attorney is gaslighting and abusing him also
@@Amandahugginkizzit awful. Exactly what that creep attorney is doing. Prosecutor did not object because it showed truly how evil she is. So I am disappointed they allowed this. Hopefully he met a counselor after this testimony. He spoke up for his brother. He should feel proud of himself.
He knew right from wrong
PERIOD
How the heck did this evil monster "homeschool" two kids...while having a full-time job...from 6am to 6pm?!?!! LIES
There are so many examples of abused children not seeking help for their siblings and even partaking in the abuse of other siblings out of fear or the need of approval from a parent or carer. This is quite clearly what has happened to this young man. He is doing the right thing now for his brother speaking out against his mither ti get justice for his brother. This is a very very sad situation.
After the fact.
This young man sounds like he needs so much help, hopefully he will get the special support that is needed! ❤
This lawyer seems to have no empathy for this young man! His voice is scary, and only in it for the money?
Please stop punishing this young man , sounds like he came from an abused background ❤
Not in prison he won't.
This poor young man was a victim too
It's crazy that we strangers seem to have more empathy and understanding fof her children than she does.
God, that poor young man on the stand. He, too, is broken 😢😢😢
He made a plea deal to save his behind-that’s the ONLY reason he’s testifying
The way he looks at his mother with a glance of fear. He’s terrified of this women.
I hope he doesn’t have to go to prison. This breaks my heart
I’m no psychologist but I have an autistic little brother who’s 20 now, this guy is definitely somewhere on the spectrum and the mother used that to her advantage. Absolutely evil what she did to her boys): I’m a mother to 2 little boys and they are my whole entire world. These type of monsters will never make sense to me.
I agree,I think he’s on the spectrum too.
Yes I agree!!
How so?? My son is on the spectrum. This young man is matter of fact and speaks well. No hesitation or confusion.
@@lindsaynicole1218 like I said, “somewhere on the spectrum”. He’s Probably lower on the spectrum, my brother is also very matter of fact and also speaks really well but he lacks social cues/skills and his mind isn’t as matured as his age he’s 20 but mentally he’s still 16, and Paul reminds me of that. He seems like he lacks social skills and is immature mentally still. just because your autistic doesn’t always mean you can’t communicate well. Autism is very very complex and looks different for everyone with it.
@@meganfarrell7427Why are you defending his behavior. It’s gross.
I hate how the defense attorney is trying to put the blame on Paul.😡
i hate how you are trying to put the blame on the mother when paul is the person who did everything bad
Exactly 💯! He's abused too!
@@Hello-ig1px if it wasn't for mom's investment, it wouldn't have happened wouldn't it?
In order for the defense to place blame on Paul, the mother, who is the defense attorney’s client MUST APPROVE of the direction for her defense.
In other words, the mother is throwing her son Paul under the bus so that she can live a free life while Paul is in prison. Paul’s mother would sleep like a baby with both sons out of her life.
@@julesservantofjesus972 he is 20 years old
Making the brother seem guilty doesn’t make the mother seem any less guilty.....This lawyer is just grasping at straws, trying to defend her, when there is no possible defence for her actions.
He is just as much a victim of his mother as Gabriel was. All of her children were tortured one way or another. I hope Paul gets the help he needs and knows there are mothers out here who care about him. I really wish him all the best.
This kid isn't well...He is absolutely scared of his mother. I think they should show him leniency. R.I.P. Timothy! I hope Shanda gets convicted and sentenced to life in jail.
I agree he doesn't look healthy and keeps looking over to where she is sitting. You can tell he was and still is afraid of her.
not a kid, he's a 20 year old man
Abuse can delay development as can fear
Age is not an equalizing factor
But he wasn’t scared to tell her no about putting the hot sauce else where? I disagree. Age is a factor to consider. This grown ass man knew the difference between right and wrong. Yes his mom probably was manipulative. But doesn’t mean he couldn’t leave the home and call for help to ensure his siblings were safe. I disagree with most of the comments and think Paul should definitely face consequences along with his mother. Paul may not had been the mastermind behind all the abuse, but he sure could had been the hero if he even tried. He could have snuck his brother food and lied to his mom. There’s a lot he could had done in my opinion. Yes, he may had faced abuse himself…. But that gives him no excuse to become/help the abuser.
She is not a mother she is a monster who ruined both of her son’s lives. I hope they show this boy leniency he is also a victim.
I am sick to my stomach watching this. Pure evil family. Poor child didn't deserve such horrendous treatment from his family.
This lawyer is disgusting. It is CLEAR this young man was under his mother's thumb and was afraid to go against her commands. I know how it feels to FEAR a parent and to avoid doing anything to upset them. Thankfully I was never put in Paul's position. He needs therapeutic hospitalization, not prison.
😢 this young man could not of lied if he trie, he was a victim of his mother and the monster she created
This kid is going to struggle with guilt and the weight of this for the rest of his life..
At first I thought that he was a monster like his mother but you can see that he has had years of psychological abuse and he needs a lot of mental health rehabilitation. She desensitized this young man. He could have gotten his brother help by reporting his mother and I’m torn with how to feel about his part in this very sad situation.
Agreed
I think this attorney is mistaking his disability as a win. This guy deserves to be rehabilitated.
I think the attorney is making sure his client goes to prison forever but also doing his job so she can not appeal. He’s doing his duties. I respect this attorney unlike Casey Anthony’s whose attorney helped her make up lies and blame everyone else.
Paul is so afraid and it is very clear he has been abused himself. Also, he does not look healthy himself and he does have some disabilities himself and it is clear as you listen to him speak and look over at his mom. Some of the questions ask is confusing to him. Shanda is an evil person and I'm sure Timothy wasn't the first one abused.
The defense lawyer is manipulating Paul just like his mom did. Repulsive
This questioning is another form of abuse of this boy…he should only be hearing this type of questioning in a THERAPIST office with the proper mental health support of a mental health professional!!!
I think it just makes her Iook worse than she did before. If she had any common sense, she wouId have taken a pIea.
This Iawyer seems especiaIIy sIimy going after this son who was cIearIy abused as weII. He seems broken and no doubt was afraid of her. It's just disgusting to try and pin your own eviI onto your own chiId.
This definiteIy isn't helping her case in any way and maybe this Iawyer knows it deep down. I Iike to think so anyhow. He can't be dumb enough to think it's heIpfuI to bIame him with aII the evidence to the contrary.
It literally made me want to throw up towards the end of the video. May God be with Paul!
@@metalmamasue3680 She abused Timothy behind the closed doors, and now she's abusing Paul in front of the entire world. Yeah, keep going b****, she's digging her own hole to slip in.
The guy asking him questions is such a repulsive asshole. Is that the defense lawyer? The one who's defending shanda??
You can see that he is severely broken by his own mother. She's shaped him to the point that I wonder how he'd be in society at all. It's a shame because he would've had a different outcome with a different mother.
This boy has lived a life petrified of his mother...I can't even contemplate that...being afraid of your mother...this world is beyond sad..I'm so glad I'm born with the brain I have..and even watching this makes me want to go and wake my kids up now just to hug..hold and tell them how much I love them
No, he didn't. He moved in with her in 2020. He only lived with her for a year. Timothy only lived with her for six months
Ah yes, the case of a parent who is upstanding in public and with an impressive resume but is an absolute monster at home. Her lawyer rattling off her accomplishments just paints her as a classic psychopath tbh.
Just like Bill Cosby!
@ce731 What the hell does bill cosby has to do with this You are better off saying epstein
I agree. I thought she was a psychopath right off the bat!!
Yeah, that was just weird, I don’t know how he could’ve possibly seen it as anything other than counterproductive.
I don't know what you guys think Epstein or Bill Cosby have to do with this. Epstein is a pedophile.. he wouldn't want to starve a kid he would want to have *. Bill Cosby targeted adults.
That lady is evil
defence attorney pinning all the responsibility on this (now 21) guy - an obviously abused, starved and tortured boy himself, and a dishwasher by profession - he suggests he should've STOLEN food from his place of work for his brother??!!