Convert 50 AMP to 30 AMP. Save $$ Tip at RV Park. Shore Power Demystified by 2yr Travato full-timer
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PUBLISHED on Saturday, March 6, 2021
RECORDED in Tampa Bay, Florida on March 4, 2021
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My name is Scott. Since October 2019, I have lived full-time in and work a corporate job from my Winnebago Travato GL, a 21’ Class B RV camper van with my cat, Luke. I share stories of PEOPLE, PLACES, and the RV LIFESTYLE & #VANLIFE in my Travato as we roam around North America.
My goal is to inspire others to more quickly achieve their travel dreams! My RUclips channel and website www.GoSmallLiveLarge.com are dedicated to collectively learning and sharing the RV #vanlife lifestyle, and you decide what is best for you.
Here, we LEARN + SHARE = YOU DECIDE what is the best way for you to RV!
From a brand new motorhome owner (I pick it up in 1 week) I am starting at ground zero as a single mom.... this kind of content is VERY helpful! Thank you
Congrats Jessie on you our new motorhome. Glad we could be a help :)
Thanks for applying the ( KISS METHOD ) To your video. I did find it helpful as far as using a 50A to a 30A & how you can still hook your surge protector in between. Also your tip on paying for a 50A when your only using a 30A to your camper. All this was new to me this year as I just bought a 50A to a 30A adaptor , & a surge protector. We have a 2008 22' Airstream Safari 30A travel trailer that we bought new in 2009, & this will be the 1st time we have used both at any camp ground; So that would be 15 years without using either, But the camp ground we stay at this time of year for the 1st time had reservations on all the 30A sites, & only 50A hook up available. Thanks again for your helpful video.
We have a 50 amp plug at our garage that the previous owner installed, so by necessity I learned about the 50-30 adapter.
You have found your calling with RVs and videos. You're good at teaching and I enjoy your calm demeanor on camera.
Make sure the voltage isn’t 240 at that 50 AMP plug because I don’t think an RV can take that voltage.
@@gosmall.livelarge Yikes! They installed it for a trailer--how would I check the voltage?
Good job Scott. I’m a 30 year RVr, now in a Travato. I enjoyed your very thorough presentation. Although you showed it in your video, it’s important to tell everyone to turn off the power switch at the post until all connections are made!
30 year RVer… I’m just a newbie by comparison!
Heard about all this before, but so helpful to see exactly what everything looks like, thanks so much!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks Scott! You have taught us so much. You should come with every purchase!
LOL… that is nice of you to say
I've learned so much from you. Thanks Scott!
Buffalo Jill… Glad to hear it!
Great video Scott. I'm love watching useful informational videos like this. Very helpful.
Glad you enjoyed it
Good job! I am a van life wannabe living in St Paul, MN. We are so excited our high temp today will be near 50. Excellent for early March!
You can do #vanlife
Thank you for the information!
Our pleasure!
Once again a very good video, Scott. I had the same learning curve with my boat and shore power. I had to Cary a splitter for 50 to 30. Watching from Bradenton so I know how fantastic the weather is.
Thanks for sharing. Bradenton… in the area for a couple more days.
Scott, your explanation was simple and direct. I have never stayed at a campsite with my 30 amp Jayco Motorhome. I do have the surge protector, extra extension electric hose, 50 amp adaptor so that I am prepared. Better to have it and NOT need it, than need it and NOY have it. I grew up in St. Petersburg, now live in Reno, NV. Safe travels to you and Luke!
Hi Eileen… agree better to have it then not. Reno!!
Thanks Scott !! The whole series are just fantastic. In the very near future we will be RVer for sure. J from Nor Cal Bay Area. (Did I mention the great weather we have here🤟)
Eager for you to Get on the road Jayson
Good tip- the 50amp to 30 amp adapter cord. Never came across need for one yet but soon will add to my what if box. Thanks!
No problem 👍
Great video, thanks for making it easier to understand!
Glad it was helpful!
Great video and making my lists as I will be needing these soon. Some items are must have. Your amazon list is convenient and will be joining Harvest Host in the next few days before the price increase. This video was electrifying!
Electrifying ! !
Hi there, great info in this video...I never knew there was such a thing as the 50 to 30 conversion plug so that was good to know! By the time I am able to buy a rig myself I'll be an old pro thanks to you! ☺️
that is great you are “learning forward”. thx for commenting Kandice
Thanks so much! Newbie like me needs all the tips in the world!
Happy to help!
Good video. I always wondered about all of this. Thanks from Cable, WI.
Ellen… Glad it was helpful!
Good morning to you and Luke, good video, stay safe
Thanks 👍
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Love your informative videos!
Thanks! 👍
Richard from California. Thanks for the info on the 50 to 30 amp as I don't have one yet. We just came home from camping where we had no power. We love our NPE KL. So much freedom.
Freedom !
Just in time,thanks Scott. Picking up my 2021 Coachmen Nova 20 RB Li3 in May.
wow ! so excited for you
Good info thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Happy Saturday from St Augustine Beach!
amazing place!
Great explanation, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks - Just a tip don't ever use the locking ring this way if you forget to pull the plug it won't destroy you van and receptacle. Once you lock it its not slipping off. Mike
Thanks, Mike
I’m still researching but your videos are so informative 🌺❤️🌺👍👍😸
Awesome! Thank you!
Nice video!
Glad you enjoyed it
Good tip at the end Scott ;)
hi2hai… Glad you liked it!
Good to know as we are new to rv'
Welcome to RVing… and welcome to Go Small. Live Large!
Thanks Scott! Inverter Generators with 30a sockets also come in handy when your site does not have electrical hookups and Generators are allowed. Our Generator is a Westinghouse i400DF (Dual Fuel) and we run exclusively on Propane so we don’t need Gasoline.
Nice!
Thanks!
You bet!
Excellent! One way or another electricity sure governs pretty much as much as water. From Jefferson Georgia.
Georgia!
Great information Scott. From Holland Landing, Ontario Canada. It’s going down to -7 degrees C tonight with the wind chill it will feel like -12C. Not doo bad, almost shorts weather. Hahahahaha Hi Luke. ❤️🇨🇦❤️ Cheers!!!
BRRRRR
Only did one thumb up but this one 👍is for Luke my little buddy. Still in Arizona and it’s 86 degrees here right now.
Luke 🐾 says hi Jayne!
@@gosmall.livelarge hey Luke can’t wait to see you again. Such a sweet boy you are.
I’m addicted to Class B videos, and yours are at the top of my interest list bc I am part of the core audience for its content...so, thank you!
Still not sure if I will buy a Transit cargo van and get it built out (plenty of quality upfitters here in PDX!) or buy a commercial Class B rig on a Transit chassis. BOTH choices take up all of my brain power when not focused on working lol.
Anyway, it’s 45 in my Portland ‘burb with a rare wind chill of 37. 🥶
Wow, thank you! PDX !!!
Great great explanation about shore power!! Having the additional adaptors is very helpful to know (when/if I get a rig.) I wondered why the surge protector was needed. I am dumber than a box of rocks when it comes to like, for example my electric box in my house and when or how to use!! Had to get my husband to label the dang switches so I know how to flip the switch when we have a power outage in a part of the house. I’m still not sure why you need to flip the power outlets off on the shore power before plugging in or Vice versus...oh well...I’m sure I would figure it out after playing around with it.
there is a little learning curve in most things. You will master in no time.
Oshawa 🇨🇦. Saturday, March 6, 2021: somewhat sunny 28F, 15F in the breeze. Any greenery here right now is pure envy.
canada 🇨🇦!! Brrrr
Aloha from Cathedral City, California 🌺❤️🌺
aloha !!
For a few more days we’re in Cathedral City California (beautiful weather) 🌺❤️🌺
Sounds great!
Scott thank you for this video and explanation!
Glad it was helpful!
Perfect timing of your presentation Scott , We are just about to put our RV Electrical Accessories together for the must haves on board while traveling. Definitely helpful for the Newbies to learn. Where is the best place to shop this, plugs , surge protectors ,and dog bone 50-30 amps devices. Through RV Dealers or Amazon. I notice that , You haven't been utilizing your RV hitch for carrying a spare tire Just in case . Thank you from Clearwater Florida.
Clearwater… I’m in St Pete right now. We are neighbors! My website has some of the basic in my Amazon store. Walmart carries a small selection. A bigger RV dealer usually has retails items for you as well.
If you are building a van, consider having a protective devise built into the van. That way it is always there, working, and immune to theft.
Great idea Mark!
Your bonus tip about politely/humbly asking if you could have a reduced campsite-rate for just drawing limited power is certainly "right on the nose", especially for disabled and/or low-income folks like yours truly... it is indeed 100% true that many folks will try to accommodate you if you just "ask nicely" --- everything from a waived fee for an accidental overdraft due to an illness/stressful-interval/computer-glitch mishap ("I was not intentionally being irresponsible, and I almost never goof up like this, so I wondered if I could please get this fee waived as a one-time loyal/responsible-customer-reward courtesy.") to my walking-infirm semi-elderly sister's being permitted to bring her small well-behaved dog in with her to a hardware store that normally does not allow pets ("The dog feels restless and scared to be left alone in the car, and he is somewhat of a therapy-dog for her, too. She or I will be carrying/holding him all the time, too; he's just a quiet lap-dog."). :D :D
Thanks Fred for sharing your story
Howdy Scott and Luke from near Bradenton, Florida (still Tampa suburb though)
Hey Mindy…. I’m in Tampa so we are neighbors
@@gosmall.livelarge that is awesome! If I see your rig near the skyway I will stop by and say hi....
I've had my 2021 Travato 59GL for a month and already had to use a 50a-to-30a adapter.
It's not like 50amps is being sent into your rig, your rig is only going to take 30amps of that 50 service.
At my sister's place I use the 30amp-to-15amp adapter and a 50' 15amp extension cord (MAKE SURE IT'S A 15 AMP EXTENSION CORD!) and step down the inverter to 15amp and it works like a charm as well.
perfect! Thx for sharing Iball
From Athens, GA - next destination, permanently, is Tampa!
Wow… excited for your Tampa St Pete area is my fave area in FL. Congrats!
i am watching this vid in Jan 2023 , But i wanted to say it may not be as common with modern campers , but i recently purchased a 1964 shasta camper trailer from a friend and IT uses just the 15 or 20 amp house style plug ( i intend to do a little converting later but trying to keep it looking original) so those 15-20 amp plugs may not be just for tent campers and just a bit of prep suggestion everyone should keep those converter plugs on hand in various configurations 50-30 30-15 15-30 etc. as my boss got the security contract at a rodeo and needed to use generators and wound up having to search a lot of places to get the ones he needed cause one camper was wired for 30 a but the other for 50 a and of course neither had that stupid generator style twist plug.
Well said. Have you seen this urban Camping video I did, ruclips.net/video/DamOaRoTs0Q/видео.html
Great video. What size tires are on your van?
Awesome video Scott, AZ was 84 today. 🌞😎 🌵
Oh wow! HOT in AZ !!!
Shore power comes from 'shore, an abbreviation of "for sure". It is a southern expression. Say you come to visit and lights are on. You say "Wow, you got power!" I say "...'shore, power."
LOL… thx Mark
Just purchased my Travado, love it! I've had RVs my whole life, every kind. I am not a full timer, but looking forward to Alaska this summer. QUESTION: Winnebago instructs to turn off power when not in use, so do the solar panels continue to charge batteries when power switch is off?
If you turn the battery system off the solar would not charge, that is my understanding. Congrats on your Travato!
Looks nice in Florida. We know all about Volta and A/C but what about Volta and heating? Next time you are up North can you try the Truma set to all electric and see how much power heating eats up. I am thinking with the 2022 KL (on order) I won't really need propane. Thanks!
Kevin from "30 And A Wake Up" did a recent video about camping in the cold in his Travato NPE KL. I remember he specifically discussed the different heating options and how long each lasted. ruclips.net/video/mWtqd76qkig/видео.html
Keith, the electric consumption for heat is actually more than A/C. and the heat output is not nearly as hot compared to propane heat. Using electric heat makes sense when plugged into shore power and the temps are above 40F degrees. Other wise propane is the heat source of choice.
9:06 Well, calling it "shore power" could still work for an RV, since it's a "land yacht". :D
Most in RV community refer to plug in electric at campsite at shore-power, but I get your point
Just a thought. Maybe asking for two thumbs up for Luke isnt the best advice. When you hit the thumbs up button twice it actually cancels the first thumbs up. So no thumbs up at all. I hit it once.😁👍
LOL… Good point!
Hi there!
Another informative and well presented video. I did want to ask with the external surge protector, do you use surge protectors inside your rig as well, to protect your more sensitive electronics (laptop, cell, tablets, etc)?
Also, what is the power drain on your batteries, if you have your AC inverter turned on, but no electronics powered on or drawing power?
Oh and do you have a Twitter account?
Thanks!
I don't use surge protectors inside for electronics
Hello Scott: I live in the Panhandle, My future class B Van has a 500 watts of charging when plugged into a standard amp extension cord, what power line, plugs and surge-protector do I need for the hookup? Thanks again for sharing and making videos that help the Class B RV lifestyle!
My experience show one needs a 10 gauge extension cord and a 15 AMP circuit without any load, and you RV needs to ability to reduce the AMP ingest to meet the load of the circuit.
Scott, Do you have a 15 amp adapter to plug in at home or at mooch docking sites? What is necessary on the rig to assure that you do not overload the 15 amp circuit? Great video. Since we are still looking for our first shuttlecraft I have not actually seen a power pole in use, other than I assumed the rig came with a cord to plug it in. From what I understand 30 amp RV's have one A/C unit and 50 amp rigs usually have multiple air conditioners. I guess size does matter.
yes, I have an adapter for 15 AMP to 30 AMP and a 10 gauge (I think that is size wire size) 50 foot extension cord to plug into household outlet. That is a separate video! Because of my Volta system I don’t need it very often.
I dislike that rv outer ports are always unprotected from strangers. Have experienced any strangers messing with them?
I wonder about that too, especially with a $150 surge protector connected.
no trouble
Can u add a Volta system and Truma when building up a cargo van?
Volta no, as there is not a DIY option that I’m aware of. Truma not sure
7:40 Better to HAVE IT and NEVER NEED IT than NEED IT and NOT HAVE IT. :D
LOL
Hi Scott! Do you ever use the 110 outlets for anything?
Actually, no because my van has 110 outlets on the patio side to plug things into!
Quick suggestion for a future video... as a “wannabe” I’m having a blast educating myself on current Class B vans... but we’re still 5-10 years from buying. With your real-world experience and Volta contacts, do you think you could create a prediction video on what sort of features might be available in a Class B 5 years from now? I have thoughts but would love to see you come up with something like this. Regardless, I appreciate you!
Hey Rock. Hope you saw that we answered your question on last week’s What’s Up Wednesday?! #vanlife RV show on RUclips Live!
short answer is, I think we will see the trend grown toward more robust lithium-ion system and a much more connected vehicle.
@@gosmall.livelarge Perfect, thanks again for all that you do.
From my home port for a month or 2, my question is; do take any precautions if it’s raining when you are ready to plug in?
Welcome to Home Port for a couple months… and thx for your service to the USA 🇺🇸 and beyond. Don’t take any precautions connecting to shore power in the rain, except to do it fast and get back inside. I do NOT wash the van while connect to shore power though.
Scott, do you lock your surge protector to the post? I’ve read that theft is a problem with those sometimes?
I don’t lock my surge protector. Have had the same one since month 1. I have seen some do that, but I’m a trusting soul !
We use a simple bicycle cable that I’ve had for years. Decades? It wouldn’t keep a serious thief from stealing it, but for someone who’s just doing target-of-opportunity on a walk by, it keeps honest people honest, as they say.
The main question/s I have are the winterizing your vehicle....keeping pipes... batteries or anything from freezing. I don't know if you have addressed this.
I have not winterized because I live in my van full time and avoid extreme weather
@@gosmall.livelarge I kinda figured that😀
I heard it had something to do with Dinah Shore but I've always been skeptical.
LOL… Jim you cracked me up. Ms Shore was the best right?! Dinah Shore Power… !!!!
Good morning Scott! Is the surge protector really required to have for all the RV parks? Also 50 to 30amp adapter? ......
I would suggest using a surge protector. It has helped me a few times. Having that adapter is handy and gives options.
Agree with Scott. Plus, surge or drop might be less common and less disastrous than reversed polarity.
if there is a campsite that only has 30amp and our RV has 50amp.....we would need a conversion, correct? and, will everthing in our RV 5th wheel work? i imagine having too many things at once, we would trip the breaker....
Need the adapter converting 50 A to 30 A Most 5th wheels need 50 A service I think Vans are 30 A
do you keep the switches off inside the rig till you are powered up and then turn on all in cab electric switches or does it not matter weather they are on or off when hooking to an outside power source ? i have a new hymer Aktiv
Congrats on your Aktiv!! I always leave my Volta system powered on when connecting to shore power. I do turn the breakers off until all the external connections are made. then flip the breaker on
@@gosmall.livelarge do u mean the breakers inside van near the inverter box or did you mean the breakers on the out side power box
MAKE SURE YOU WHERE TENNIS SHOES NO SANDLES !!!
got it ! ***???Have you seen this video I did about Urban Van Camping in Small Town, GA ruclips.net/video/2lh1bNdZHNM/видео.html
Why not do a video focusing on van life from the Cats perspective? I would be interested in seeing the life from the cats perspective.
fun idea!
Isn't that crazy that they put the Water by the electric you would think that would be a no no
Agree with you Dave
Scott, thank you! But where are the links to buy these adapters? Thanks, I want to order these!!!
I think they are in my Amazon store… gosmalllivelarge.com/store-get-your-gear
It was 50 amp to 30 amp ADAPTER but not CONVERTER. If yes then it is really dangerous to use it because you can brake all electronical components in your van sir. Am i correct Scott?
Ummm. The 50 to 30 AMP adapter is missing one prong which makes the conversion. No electical engineer here, but that is what I am told and have experienced personally. No issues with the adapter. Alwasy use 110 volt, NOT 240 volt. That will melt your RV ;)
@@gosmall.livelarge It was really dangerous advice because you will broke all electrical components on this way. Just easily. Sorry.
If you're a wannabee, you need to hear this over & over again until it is 2nd nature. If you do it all of the time, you may not need it. IDK.
thx Linda
Is the 30amp plug 240 volts?
120 I believe. Here’s an article I came across about that issue. www.rvtravel.com/a-common-expensive-mistake-when-installing-30-amp-rv-outlet-at-home/
30 amp is 120. 50 amp is 240. What the 50 to 30 adapter does is eliminate one of the positive leads converting it to 120.
Great explanation from audience member… 30 amp is 120. 50 amp is 240. What the 50 to 30 adapter does is eliminate one of the positive leads converting it to 120.
Thx Dan!
@@danleonard3600 Thank you so much, Dan! I thought that’s what it was and you confirmed it.
@@gosmall.livelarge Dan’s awesome 👏!
You kinda look like Al Gore.