War and Religion: The Western and Islamic Traditions with Prof Joel Hayward
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2024
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After listening to each discussion on bloggingtheology, I'm always, always like 'yeah, this is the best lecture I've listened to' but br Paul and his guests always cause me to change my mind.. Brilliant guests, really brilliant people. And for many of them to be not born Muslims gives me even more certainty that Islam is true. I mean how can these brilliant people not realise islam is false 'if it is at all'. Alhamdulillah.
Alhamdulillah
Your comment reminds me of this hadith:
Anas ibn Malik reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “When you pass by the meadows of Paradise, graze as you like.” They said, “What are the meadows of Paradise?” The Prophet said, “Circles of remembrance.”
Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 3510
The professor has illustrious and exceptional credentials 🎉 His students in UAE 🇦🇪 should consider themselves quite fortunate 👍
I watched this one after seeing his first on your BT. The professor is very clear and deep thinker and I hope Mr Paul gets him back again
*_Absolutely brilliant. Prof Hayward's books will be treasured._* 💯
This is such an informative and deep interview with a fascinating expert who clearly loves our holy prophet saaw
This must be the best channel on RUclips by far. Thank you so much for the quality guests, subjects and conversations. May Allah reward you for all of it.
Alhamdulillah
Mashallah I’m glad Professor Joel Hayward came back. May Allah bless his work and may Allah bless Paul for his contribution
I never knew these things about Christianity and just war. The Islamic side I knew a lot better, but still learned new things
Brilliant! Prof Joel is a true person of knowledge, what the quran refers to as "Ahl al dhikr". He is not a pseudo intellectual who delights in using big words and abstract concepts/ The weight and beauty of his speech comes from the topic of discussion and his down to earth and humble explanation of them.
Brilliantly put brother. MashaAllah he is an unbelievable inspiration for rest of us 'born Muslims'. His insights with historical analysis are amazing, stuff we never learned in books or our masajid
This has been the most enjoyable educational hour of my early morning. Jazakallah khairan to professor Joel Hayward and to brother Paul for inviting him. I studied Islamic history in college but never quite understood the reasons for the turmoil of the Umayyad and Abbasid dynasties - the grandeur, yes, but why the competing claims to Islam, no. The professor’s exhaustive explanations help to clarify many issues. Thank you once again.
All respect and appreciation from Idlib, Syria
Wow. Fantastic expert
In book 21 of Jihad hadith 10:
Yahya related to me from Malik from Yahya ibn Said that Abu Bakr as-Siddiq was sending armies to ash-Sham. He went for a walk with Yazid ibn Abi Sufyan who was the commander of one of the battalions. It is claimed that Yazid said to Abu Bakr, "Will you ride or shall I get down?" Abu Bakrsaid, "I will not ride and you will not get down. I intend these steps of mine to be in the way of Allah."
Then Abu Bakr advised Yazid, "You will find a people who claim to have totally given themselves to Allah. Leave them to what they claim to have given themselves. You will find a people who have shaved the middle of their heads, strike what they have shaved with the sword.
"I advise you ten things:
Do not kill women or children or an aged, infirm person. Do not cut down fruit-bearing trees. Do not destroy an inhabited place. Do not slaughter sheep or camels except for food. Do not burn bees and do not scatter them. Do not steal from the booty, and do not be cowardly."
The reconquesta went after Muslims to the Americas, oh now it makes so much sense why the Roman empire took on the non-monotheistic version of christinaity after two to three hundred years it fits their pagan beliefs perfectly! Interesting!
I fail to understand how roman empire is related to reconquista since roman empire were long gone even before tariq bin ziyad. But if I missed your point, can you clarify for me?
@@justanotherman1114 Good point from my humble perspective, they have tampered with the monotheistic creed of Christianity based on their own pagan beliefs when they adopted a polytheistic version of Christianity based on Roman mythology in 312, creating a theological delusion that both religions "Christianity and Islam are different , where the first was tainted by roman mythology displaying the concept of a god/man, and humans can become a part of this god/man, soon after came the Nicea convention 325 debating and declaring the divinity of Christ, then the prosecution of monotheistic Christians sprang the wide spread adoption of not a misunderstanding but a huge misconception, feeding into the theory of otherness/nemesis/enemy, then you find " crusades/conquests" fighting for Christ the god/man, enormous political traction and power, driven profits from opposing a religion that actually holds the same monotheistic understanding of early Christians who didn’t get it wrong but they got it right, from my observation this feeling kept on growing and feeding into a sense of vengeance against Islam in the form the Reconquista that seeks to eradicate it, again based on the concept of otherness, it was not a spring of a moment decision but the outcome of a distorted creed because of the impact of the of Roman theology on Christianity.
I didn’t really explain my point of view, but I see that arrogance and being proud to see the truth keeps on repeating itself with an astounding pace through human history before Islam, Christianity and Judaism, but at least now I understand why there is a whole Surah in the holy Quran called AR - RUM.
I didn’t expect anyone to read my comments so thank you for asking
What is really remarkable is that every monotheistic religion gets tampered with through polytheistic traction, but Islam never did, which convinced me that this final message is preserved by Allah, as Prophet Muhammed PBUH had received a series of divine revelations; where he had grown up in the depths of Arabia, in a pagan metropolis, Mecca; yet for 100 of years to follow this creed of monotheism was never tainted by culture or mythology, the message itself, not how people practice it!
Back to the prophet Muhammed PBUH that had fled to another city, Yathrib, where he had established the primal Muslim state; that this flight, or hijra, had transformed the entire order of time, and come to provide Muslims with their Year One: all this was enshrined to momentous effect by Ibn Hisham. The contrast between Islam and the age that had preceded it was rendered in his biography as clear as that between midday and the dead of night. The white radiance of Muhammad's revelations, blazing first across Arabia and then to the limits of the world, had served to bring all humanity into a new age of light. he brought the light, but the light is ever existent and that light is Allah who promised to preserve this message from any tampering and this is just another sign of him.
Dear YA, thanks for your message, don't forget that they pay and Muslim pay that too zakah (charity 2.5 of net wealth) and the Muslims protect them in case of war, and Omar gave people of the book charity in the famous story when he saw an old poor Christian or Jew who could not work, he gave charity just as with poor Muslims! If you have time read how Muslims entered Spain, why, and read how the "entered Cordoba " I read it from Spanish sources in Spanish language, they say they camp in the other side of Guadalquivir (from Wadi al kabir in Arabic) and waited in the morning people receive them with doors open, they did not resist or fight, because they heard how Muslims treated other town to the south of them justly and have much much lower taxes than the Visigoths who levied high taxes on them. etc etc.. Mass destruction weapon is not allowed in Islam because it is indiscriminate and can kill innocent non combatant people.
@@sutil5078 I want to read it! Subhan Allah !! I was just discussing this with a friend of mine and I was quite skeptic about the history being told about the conquering of Andalusia and the fact the International Criminal Court drove its combatant laws and treatment of captives from the rules of Shariah! What I told my friend was that I am sure Muslims didn't go to war when they were entering Andalusia and now you mentioned Cordoba!!!! Talk about a merciful God AlhamdolilAllah.
Thank you so much, Gazak Allah Khayran am mesmerized and grateful AlhamdolilAllah 🙏
"Wars will end when there's One man left on earth" sad but true, I think Islam can regulate wars but can't prevent it. Fascinating as always, thanks.
Again another fascinating discussion. Thanks br Paul
Fully enjoyed watching Prof. Joel explain a rather complex topic. May Allah preserve him and brother Paul.
I love pr Joel and sir Paul in the sake of Allah and all of Bloging Theology guests
May Allah make all of us in the highest paradise
Prof Joel Hayward #Respect
Oh man how did miss this?! I got Professor Joel’s book The Warrior Prophet ﷺ after his first podcast with you. Very good book. Enjoyed this one thoroughly as well.
As-salamu 'aleykum wa rahmatuLlahi wa barakatuhu, Paul!
Can you give me permission to make russian over-voice for your video about professor Joel Hayward for russian-speaking people?
Sincerely yours, Amir.
Thank you so much br Paul for having prof. Joel Hayward back . May Allah bless you both and your families and your works .
It is Monumental work that is being done .
Thanks to host and guest .
With regards to your question Paul, you asked the Professor are there any clear verses about not fighting against non combatants, a clear verse in Surah Al Mumtahanah
Allāh does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allāh loves those who act justly.
MashaAllah, beautiful discussion. May Allah bless you both, and the Muslim Ummah.
An engaging discussion. So much that one could learn from it. May Allah swt increase all of us in knowledge. Aameen.
I really like your subjects, always rich in information. Thank you so much for your effort and my regards to your guests
Glad you like them!
Fabulous discussion!
Dr Hayward is very accomplished ✊mashallah!
Masha Allah Alhamdullilah
SubhanAllah, Paul your channel is enough to overwhelm any viewer with enlightened knowledge of our deen.
And SubhanAllah I have amassed a large backlog!
May Allah swt. Grant you and your family good health.
Ma Sha Allah. Just two points:
Regarding Bany Quraizah number of casualties. You can read different numbers. Some said 400 or more. But Ibn Zinjawayhi mentioned in his book al-Amwal that the number is 40 people. This can be found in page 299 of al-Amwal by Ibn Zinjawayhe. /First edition- 1986. Edited by Dr Shakir Dheeb Fayyadh.
The second point is the way the prophet's stand regarding war and while trying to explain why did he engage in offensive wars, the argument presented shows the prophet to be a leader of nation-state more than a leader has responsibility & concerns towards all others.
Fascinating perspective ! Illuminating, knowledgeable 👍
Jazakallah
Love hire from professor on diplomacy of prophet (SAW) after he finished his book
Oh! I can't wait..
Excellent as always
But unusual for Paul to interrupt so much . Was quite annoying.
But the guest was very interesting. Thank you for bringing him on.
Amazing
"how can we be civilized nation but still go to war offensively. So we say to others we're defending ourselves, by bringing the war to the other guys's places" geez, sounds very very familiar.
"aah they hate us!!! They want to kill us!! So we kill them first!!! R@pe them! Kill their children!! Plunder their oil!! Loot their golds!!!" this is fudge up.
Hi Alex. That was ancient Rome's approach. Sadly, we see it in today's world, don't we? Nothing much changes. Thanks for your comment.
@@joel7876 Thank you for the acknowledgment. This was illuminating discussion between you and Paul. Assalamualaikum Brother.
@@alexferdinansyah757 thanks so much for your kindness to me
I love the military rivalry of Salahuddin and Richard as well out of others.
The argument if you don't have the ability then it is not a just war. This in my opinion something that is a later innovation, and much of its conception comes from modern dictators who argue that we don't have the ability to stand against the West, and hence we should not fight. If you take the Prophetic example or the examples of his companions, you see that Muslims were very often were at disadvantage, starting with the Battle of Badr.
MASHALLAH
Interesting bit of history 😀
Amazing ❤️🌹✊🏼
وين اكو موسوية وشيعة يهتمون بهيج مواضيع انتو عدكم التاريخ الاسلامي والتراث الاسلامي كله جذب وحكام كفار ومرتدين
Interesting and well presented debate by two learned gentlemen! Perhaps some more insights on Amir Abdelkader would have fit the very topic of Islamic view on war and humanitarian laws ...Maybe that was set aside for an eventual coming video 👌 If it is God willing
جزاكما الله خيرا كثيرا 🌷
Thank you
Salam is it okay if I can download your videos in mp3 so I can listen when I am out
Oh I remember this guy, mind blown, I just realized I read one of his books on Hadith a few years ago.
Wonderful SIR ☺ _ good job gentlemen
We have to know that among the reasons of taking the sword at that time is when a emperor or an army stands between the civilian people and the Muslims by force to stop their sacred duty which is reaching the word of Allah to mankind (that duty is offering Islam to people peacefully with no compulsion in religion, and they have the choice to accept or reject).
Example of some emperors who stopped the word of Allah to reach to their people and Muslims took the swords against them, we have:
-Heracles the roman emperor
- kisra emperor of persia
- Al-Muqawqis the Egyptian emperor
If a king or an emperor lets the Muslims to do their sacred duty like what had happened in Indian and many countries in Asia till Indonesia, also in yemen and in east Africa (the king negus as example). In that case the Muslims went away and left their countries after establishing thier Dawah which is their sacred duty.
Now at our time of technology, taking the sword (war) is forbidden (Haram) because none can stop the message of Allah to reach the people.
Negus means king. His name was Ashama but widely known as Nejashi.
Negus Ashama.
@@Zeyede_Seyum thank you for the information
Who said its haram on this day & age ? You are making your own rules on the go??
@@shahul8222 it's haram because none stops to you make daawah.
I'm not talking about the Muslim countries that occupied by other country, because in this case Fighting and Taking the sword is Fardh (obligation)
@@saidghendir1038 Then you don't know about the world if you believe you can freely give dawah. Even if a country allows you to do dawah in the name of free speech, they won't allow the muslims to practice their religion to the fullest. They will grab our women's hijab, they won't allow us to talk against the alphabet gang, they will take over our masjids and lie that there was temple here before and demolish them, they kill us just bcz we eat beef and cow is their god and the list goes on and on and on...
Lovely mashAllah
Hey to any of you reading this, are there any podcasts that you know of about international law, and law on conflict in general? Any recommendation is appreciated :)
Would like to know as well.
MashaAllah very deep.
How do we really know, how can humans trust, the supposed existence of some supernatural being whose nature (99 attributes, etc ) are human concepts. How are we supposed to trust a being that is inconceivable by humans, Whose existence is... beyond existence.
Don’t trust then! You have been warned of the consequences.
@@danalmariti509 Nobody has warned me of anything. And why should I trust the warnings of.....other humans? Make sense?
Brother Paul, may I know how do you get contact with such people from all over the world and means of communication do you use to reach them? You must have a strong social network and its amazing Alhamdullilah
Salam I usually email people via their website or other public platform.
@@BloggingTheology It would be an understatement to say you are doing an amazing job. Keep up the rich academic atmosphere of your channel Akhi
I think you overplayed some Muslims saying the prophet only waged defensive war
I don't know of any serious Muslim or reputable scholar who says that.
something feels off, I have never seen a guest claim so many things and not cite any references whatsoever
He did though
And anyway if you listen to interviews or videos on history or religion it’s not full of citing sources otherwise all you’d be doing is citing sources!!! And the interview/ information would be hard to listen to and boring and ridiculously long
he's working under the UAE ...
He is the reference!
A bit late but he only refers to apologetic islamic references and religious texts / sayings, wich can't really be trusted.
And he seems really apologetic too, citing Muhammed being the perfect lawmaker, what he (supposedly ) said was effectively happening !... Or not at all.
What does the small scale of the Prophets Wars say anything? The sahaba engaged in warfare or magnitude scale
Please add Arabic translation for mobile
War and religion are integral parts of God's Perfect Plan for humanity.
Saint Augustine of Hippo ...in Algeria
Yes. Quite right. Sometimes one can’t always remember a fact in the split second it’s discussed. Thanks so much. 🙂
@@joel7876 You are welcome
@@OH4MAN much appreciated 🙂
@@joel7876 👍👍👍
أستاذ الاخلاق والاتيكيت والدبلوماسية الأول في العالم هو النبي محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم
From what I know the prophet saw only allowed defensive war. Can the wars of the early caliphs truly be justified in light of the prophet teachings by saying the Muslims ventured beyond Arabia in order to free the oppressed populations under the eastern Roman and Persian empires. Also, further inroads into Europe etc.
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Question: Are we sure that " the care for the people dependent" instigated Muhammed sas and the Rashidoun( the rightly guided Caliphs)to go to war i.e. fight for resources ?
The logic that appeared later was in necessity of justifing and finding a solution for a new situation, for the era of the kings,majority of which cared a lot for prestige and wealth.
So to go back to the Prophet sas and the Rashidoun, I was reading a long time ago that Muhammed sas sent messengers to all sides and the Emperor of Persia had the messengerkilled. With Byzantium it was more complex, the messenger to them was killed on the way to Constantinopol by the Arabs protecting the Byzantine border. They were Orthodox Christians loyal to the emperor. It was also said that the Byzantine Emperor did not even have a clue about what happened.
Anyways, those events in reality were a cause of war.
Another thing is the position of religion in the empires of the time, take Byzantium for example. Only the official version of Christianity was allowed, Jews and members of other Christian denominations did not have civil rights, Jews were not allowed to live in Jerusalem and the remnant of the wall was covered with garbage including pig carcasses, on orders of Emperor Justinian's wife. In those circumstances, how can one hope to do Islamic dawa as one should?
That is where I believe we should look for the reasons for the first wars.
all this over thinking is not needed. It was an empire when conquering lands was not only celebrated(i.e. Alexander) but also necessary. An empire which didn't expand was considered stagnant and weak by the neighbours, thus they'd have to deal with outside attacks.
@@ezazahmed8379 The subject is of huge importance here, hense this is not overthinking. The Prophet pbuh and the rightly guided Caliphs were interested in dawa ( propagating Islam) and protection of the ummah from attack. This is where we should look for their motivation for war. Understanding their motivation helps us get proper understanding. Muhammad pbuh and the first Caliphs were NOT warlords.
Where did you read this?
Boomark: 1:22:08
27:31 before professor hayward answers, the four german parachuters must be on the ground AND with a weapon pointed in my direction, in other words with an ongoing will/intent to fight. then it is propoly justified to fight them... aaa nnn ddd go!
The British cut off thumbs of Japanese fighter pilots POWs , the digit used to fire the machine gun buttons of Japanese fighter aircraft
source of the thumbnail
Please discuss the carpet bombing of Iraq and Afghanistan by the West in terms of the Geneva convention.
Afghanistan and Iraq would make a great next podcast, Rehana. Many thanks for your input
Sir, why don't you discuss the act of APOSTACY (distancing oneself, rejecting) Islam. Discuss how one should oust a family member who rejects Islam.
Mohammed hijab gave an excellent answer to this, in an interview with Daniel haqiqatou
@@TheFaro2011 Who are these people?
Only the muslim ruler can act on the law of apostasy
If your country isn’t sharia law then they should try to guide this person, if he wasn’t then they should abandon him and never associate with him until he comes back
They are not out of the fight. It would depend on where they were landing once they parachuted. If the landing is down at civilian location they are still considered combatants. I can calculate and say well they’re going to be captured by the civilians anyway I’m taking a chance of them doing civilians harm once they land so take them out while in the air. If we were in no man’s land without any civilians than the French are right I’ll let them parachute down and look for them wherever they landed they’d probably be more useful as prisoners then just killing them when they aren’t a threat.
That all goes without saying. I said if they were merely descending on their parachutes. Thanks for your response dear K Dot 🙂
Is prof Joel Hayward a Muslim?
Yes I am
@@joel7876 الحد الله
@@Lexcepcion thank you my friend
Why did Jibril ( protector angel of the hebrews) choose a warlord Muhammad to covey god's message. I suppose god could not have done this himself to humanity.... oh that's right... he was concerned about free will and all that .
@Elyas Khalil Allah informs you through his prophets that he wants you to kill yourself and others? The greatest human in history?
Muhammad wasn’t a warlord
He was a prophet
And yes he waged wars, and fought evil people to spread the truth
if you have nothing to fight for then what do you have XD are we supposed to be ashamed that the Muslims fought the sins and oppression and idol worship? Nah, and the way they fought was shocking. Brother gets have his arm cut from a sword, so he cuts off the rest with his own sword because its making his job harder. Its like the movies except it wasn't a movie, it was men who believed in God. Too bad muslims today don't even know their left from their right.
When Richard lion's heart went to the city of akka in Palestine, he executed 4000 men, women and children , so no comparison with SalahEddine.
( Will Christians And Jews and "OTHER" non-Muslims go to Heaven? )
Quran 2:62
'' Those who believe (in the Quran) and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures) and the Christians and the Sabians->ANYAllah< Is The Protector Of Monasteries, Churches, Synagogues And The Mosques )
Quran 22:40
[They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right - only because they say, " Our Lord is God " And were it not that God checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of God is much mentioned. And God will surely support those who support Him. Indeed, God is Powerful and Exalted in Might.
Note: Why did Allah protected Churches and Synagogues if they worship false Allah ?
( Why Are There So Many Different Religions In The World ? )
Quran 5 48
''...... If God wanted He could have made all of you a single nation.( ie single religion ) But He willed otherwise in order to test you in what He has given you (ie Scriptures) therefore try to excel one another in good deeds. Ultimately you all shall return to God then He will show you the truth of those matters in which you '' >DISPUTE verb < not noun like other religions
Islam mean "submission" to God
( The above verse saying is that God will not accept a religion from the >MUSLIM< and the Non-Muslims but total "submission" to God )
Question: How Can Muslim And the Non-Muslim "submit" to the God?
Answer: Be kind to other human beings and Do not lie, Do not steal, Do not cheat, Do not hurt others, Do not be prideful and Do the charity work.
Note: If you obeyed all the ABOVE Allah-God's moral laws "YOU" submitted to God.( ie Islam mean "submission" to God )
The only people who will enter Paradise those who '' Submitted to God '' ( ie by Good Deeds )
God does NOT accept your religion of birth but only ''Your Total'' Submission to Him.
( God Allows Interfaith Marriages And Eat Food From the Christian And Jew And Vice Versa )
Quran 5:5
''This day [all] good foods have been made lawful, and the food of those who were given the Scripture (ie Christian and Jew) is lawful for you and your food is lawful for them. And lawful in marriage are chaste women from among the believers (ie Muslim ) and chaste women from among those who were given the Scripture (ie Christian and Jew) before you, when you have given them their due compensation, desiring chastity not unlawful sexual intercourse or taking [secret] lovers. And whoever denies the faith - his work has become worthless and he in the Hereafter will be among the losers.''
Note: > Only < Islam allows interfaith marriages (>14 hundredsSame God< but They are >ALL Corrupt< more or less, some more than others from their original foundational teaching. The older religion are MORE corrupted than newer religion.
Question to Muslim and Christian:
Does God / Allah only answer your pray ?
And God / Allah does not answer non Muslim / non Christian pray?
Did Allah '' Canceled '' all other religions Judaism and Christianity?
Quran 5:48
'' And We have revealed to you [O Muhammad] the Book in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture ( ie New and old Testament ) and as a criterion over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. >>>TO EACH OF YOU WE PRESCRIBED A LAW AND A METHODone nation>differ qualified < for to enter Paradise )
On the day of judgement God will ''NOT'' judge humanity bases on Sunni Muslim sect VS Shia Muslim sect ''NOR'' by Muslim VS non-Muslim >but< Doer of Goods VS Doer of Evils.
'' YOUR " birth in the Muslim's family is NOT a > qualification < for to enter the Paradise.
'' YOUR " religion / sect / foot long beard is NOT a > qualification < for to enter the Paradise.
The > qualification < to enter Paradise is > Faith in God and Good Work
Are you a software engineer/ programmer?
I ask because your format of writing seems software programmery, if there's such a word,.
I agree with everything you say, it seems the only way , and we couldn't of known this without Quran it's just , many people born into religion and have not put themselves under the microscope in terms of inherited practice that majority will accept as truth without evidence or have high anxietys of punishment or guilt and are side tracked to believe that God has given only one way that is applicable to him and the rest is doomed when infact the one way is applicable on each and every individuals circumstances and their own capacity in terms of cognitive levels of understanding etc one person's regular salaah might be to feed people ( charity workers), feed birds that every other day for 5 mins, some read and understand Quran on regular, others quite refelction time, some may choose to on occasions congregate with others and work towards good works all these acts in my opinion with a intention of clarity are all forms of salaah, but traditionalists are adamant that Hadith this and that says different, eventhough Quran dosent mention it so , but the salaah described by Quran is all pointing towards establishing good habits and to do them at appointed times , indicating haveing a structure and not being random go lucky individuals without haveing a plan and to achieve and not become bums, but have purpose and a routine like the animals they all have they're salaah ( routine) not having routine people become more depressed generally and a person doing a job they don't like 😀
@El-Ḥaakim be-Amr Allāh Exactly. So many 7ameer and gullible sheep in the ummah falling for anything.
@El-Ḥaakim be-Amr Allāh
Idols worshipping is completely wrong whether statues or taking your imams and dead people of the grave as intermediarys between Allah and in my opinion everyone is doing it Muslims and Hindus etc your not free from what you label for others
@El-Ḥaakim be-Amr Allāh
I'm guessing assumption labelling must be contagious, you know , me being impressed or not reading properly
It's ok to agree with people, nothing in the statement that I liked , committed shirk but is an affirmation that our understanding of Quran is corrupted i.e did Mary recieve a fruit of plate from the heavens or was it an expression of her learning achievements under the study of Zakariah, when she was studying the scriptures ( Torah ) ?
Every tafseer would say the first , eventhough Allah could do it if he wants but I believe magic tricks are infinitely below his Majesty
@El-Ḥaakim be-Amr Allāh
What do you think?
is the professor a Muslim?
Yes I am
@@joel7876 How come the muslims start a war with others and they supposed to spread peace?
3 different Caliphate 2 sunni , 1 Shite …. Divided Ummah from 750AD , basically 3 different empire.
Its amazing how apologetic one can be.... how Muslims keep repeating the same stuff over and over again trying to convince themselves of their doubts. Primary school debates.
please keep your skewed analysis to your self.
Grow up
@@Ashleii Grow up.... and become a zombie with a book stuck in my face all day. You are correct.
@@petrospetroupetrou9653 your sentence doesn’t make sense
@@petrospetroupetrou9653 what are you talking about? You are saying so many vague things be specific please 🤦🏾♂️
Odd , is not religion suppose to be about peace, love .look to history. Which religion uses force.
Nope islam is about justice and the truth that was hidden from people
Every country you see now days forced itself into existence, stop living in your fantasy world and wake up
Organized warfare commenced circa 12000 years ago. It arose in parallel with slavery, organized religion and even mathematics. Religion did not cause war, however religion was used as an excuse to wage war: Crusades, Moors, Ottoman Empire, etc. Unfortunately islam has had the same fate as all monotheistic religions and waged wars. And of course two wrongs don't make a right.... I would not have expected war from the most purest and absolute of religions. Just war does not exist because it is always relative to some perspective.
Who are the Moors? What are the wars that makes them equal to Ottomans or god forbid crusades?
Moors are people who were compelled from their homes in Andulus through wars and compelled expulsion. They lived in their home country of Andulus from Cicily, Cordoba and Lisbon in 800 years. Then killed, their properties are taken and family members either converted or murdered. You can't compare bloody crusaders and moors. Crusaders are not expelled from middle east. They were aggressive from North and mid europe for killing, burning and looting
Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do!
Why would you not expect war. War has been part of human existence since humans existed!!
All religions should have solutions for dealing with the oppressor
In Islam it is quite clear . You lift your sword for the oppressed, the weak, the abused against the oppressor. Or defence against the disbelievers or those attacking your land and property
Any true guidance for life has to have guidance on how to deal with oppressors and greedy land grabbers
If politics and talks don’t work then war is the last option.
@@Ashleii You have much to learn, especially about war. You speak like a programmed ant. Please do not reply again.
@@f4wnz132 So revengeful... a religion so human in thought and action....its funny. Even a smart 8 year old will laugh.
Islamic expansion didn’t really happen during the reign of Imam Ali (as) because conquering land and cities is not a metric for success in Islam. Worldly monarchs like Muawiya reveled in conquests because he desired wealth.
May Allah have mercy on Muawiyah and all the muslims. Rather than speak about the dead in that way, make dua for him and all of the muslims, perhaps Allah will then have mercy on you
@@Alex21441 Allah wants us to send Laanat on the unjust, who cause fitna - not duas. You need to read Quran to understand this.
@@syed61475 We make dua for the muslims who have fallen into disobedience and those who have not. Muawiyyah was a muslim who was a companion of the Prophet alayhi salaam and I refuse to speak ill of him at all. His virtue proceeds ours a 1000 fold and the Prophet alayhi salaam made dua for him and Allah answers the dua of the Prophet alayhi salaam. You need to read the Quran, as there is no were in the Quran it says to curse Muawiyah. May Allah guide you and me to what is pleasing to Him. Ameen
@@Alex21441 Quran teaches principles. The Holy Prophet (saw) didn’t pray for him in a good way but rather cursed him so his insatiable appetite for food is never satisfied. Allah (swt) curses (removes mercy from) those like him.
Usual shia nonsense.
One problem with Islam is in trying to prove that it is the final, the purest, the most truthful of all other religions. How does the epileptic hallucinating warlord Muhammad do that? After all there are already many other religions operating. How does he unite the Arab tribes against Christians and Jews? What can he do with all these pre-existing religions so that the pagan Arabic tribes don't become worshippers? Deny them? Ridicule them? Or subsume them under some new religion that is the creme del a creme of religions. Its all so childish.
What is also childish is your grammar
And it wouldn’t take more than a simple comparison between the two religions to realize why islam is the truth and the others are falsehood
As muslim i agree all islamic rule. but i hate condition of non muslim war captive women in islam after read hadiths about it from bukhari & shahin muslim. sorry to say
lulz. so you're complaining about Allah's rules then?
do you *even understand* the whole context in regards of those things you're disagreeing with? or just part of it? 🤔
@@etzelkaplan9677Yes. you are right. three main religion same about it. this hadith about it in bukhari & shahin muslim
You're okay with men captives but not women captives ? Why is that ?
What are you going to do with the women after a war when they have lost their husbands?
1) massacre them all ending their suffering.
2) leave them to to die alone in the middle of a wasteland without anyone to feed them and take care of them.
3) take them back with you and make a deal with them to serve you for getting freed after some time and treat them well in order for them to integrate into your society and increase the man power of your nation.
Islam is not about "i like this part but i hate that part". Islam is about "we hear and we obey". That is the consequences of submitting to God and that is the weight of responsibility of the people who witness that there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah.
"O you who have believed, enter into Islām completely [and perfectly] and do not follow the footsteps of Satan. Indeed, he is to you a clear enemy." - Quran, 2:208