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I have watched nearly all your videos and I like them all. I’m 86 years old so I know what old equipment is and how a lot of it is worth saving. I like the way you think and how well you manage to get by with what you’ve got. It don’t have to be the best, just what ever gets the job done. You were right to save the old excavator but I think that old aluminum dump trailer is more work for you than you will ever come out on. That is just my opinion but I know if you decide to tackle it you will succeed. I just doubt that there is enough clean aluminum there to make what you had to pay for it and count your time worth anything. Good Luck to you.
I grew up watching Insley machines building the country and was always a little sad to see the name disappear from the construction landscape. They were always unique in that the operator's cab is on the opposite side compared to literally every other machine out there. It always makes me happy to see someone putting time and effort into saving these pieces of living history. And yes, this machine's in fairly pristine condition for its age. Good work!
There is absolutely NOTHING more exciting and mesmerizing than watching an old excavator get rescued from "the woods." Literally, The Woods. Amazing that you were able to get it home. There will be a LOT of good episodes in the future on Jack's Steel. I will look forward to seeing them!! Thank you!!
For 200 bones I dont' see buying that trailer as buying a trailer. I see it as buying a useable set of spring ride trailer tandems. Why I wouldn't hesitate if I was in his place; I'd get the nose up on the back of the daycab, drag it home, and if nothing else there's a set of tandems, a fifth wheel plate, maybe a lift cylinder and some hydraulics, to use for another project.
Matt, At work we have a couple of marine 6-71s. One was built in 1942 or 43 and had original design liners in some of the cylinders. It would start and idle on 2 cylinders and spit raw fuel up the stack. The guy that did the rebuild said they honed the sleeves and put the old pistons and rings back in. He put in cylinder kits and had the head done. It acted kind of like your engine before and runs great now. The other one was rebuilt by a truck shop and set up with a misguided cooling system. After several overheats it smoked like yours. After one more severe reheat, it would no longer start. It had a cracked head and the rings were soldered back in the grooves by the piston plating- - tin melted by the overheats. We replaced the head and did the rest of what the truck industry calls an in frame overhaul. With a proper cooling system it stays at a good temperature and smokes way less despite having HV series injectors. N series would improve the smoke and starting as they run at higher pressure.Look forward to seeing the Insley come back to 100%. Keep it original as possible, you wouldn't want a beagle's tail on one of your Weimaraners.
Let the Aluminum trailer go Matt, it looks to be to far gone to make it worth the effort. You won my friend, you got it home running enough to move it self, great job, I will be looking forward to the rebuild of the excavator, going to enjoy it, it may even provide you with an opportunity to do some machining work with your lathe and mill. Wishing you the best on this one, it’s a diamond in the rough in my book, thanks for the update, enjoyed watching.
Greetings from Hong Kong 😊. As a Insley, born in England, I am mightily pleased that you are rescuing and bringing back to life these remarkable machines 👏👍
Can't wait to see the series rebuilding and refurbishing Jack Steel. At one point in time I had and operated a early 80's Lull 1044 , I swear it could outperform its modern counterparts on the jobsite, it was loud and had 0 creature comforts, but no computers or sensors and just could lift and drive and perform all day. It was like it had something to prove inside itself. Seeing Jack Steel reminds me of that, just wants to get back to work and perform its duty and be useful and strong again.
It's like an old pro wanting to get back to work after being off due to...well, all sorts of things. Yeah, he needs a bit of time to get back into it, but once the man's back in action, good luck keeping up.
I ran a Shrimp Boat back twenty some odd years ago with the same Detroit. Always the injectors are the issues when they make oil. I knew from the beginning of part one what the issue was with this one. You are a good hand Son.
If I was a Mechanicus weirdo (warhammer 40k), I'd say the Machine Spirit of this beautiful beast is that of a stubborn worker, and is saying prayers to the Omnissiah. What I actually think it's saying is: "How many years have I remained in slumber? The only correct answer is 'Far too long'....It is time to rise, and show that I still draw breath, and will not lay down and accept death's embrace."
That Insley is a gem though. Off the shelf parts is what America has been based on. We are going to lose our country if we don't keep these machines within the off the shelf standard. Work becomes unsustainable when you have to hire a specialty mechanic that has OEM software and parts that are no longer available because the new model is different and old parts run out. The equipment costs more so I have to charge the client more the client has to charge their tenants more so on and so forth. We should be able to buy the equivalent of this machine brand new to this day.
Hi love the video thanks for posting, If you look at Part 1 21:26 when you remove the side covers you can see cylinder liner 3 has burnt out on the inlet port, the slots in the liner keep the rings from springing out when the piston travels past the port to open it. This means if the rings are still intact and have not been ripped off they are probably broke or stuck in there piston groove which equals no compression and unburnt fuel which is where your white smoke is coming from. You did well to get this going at all my hat is off to you sir. If you strip the engine would love to see a video of it, keep up the good work.
Great save, I'm a believer in "old School" equipment. Anything before computers. Easier to keep running and far less expensive. Insley using parts common to other brands is a plus. That machine will still be running when the new computerized machines will no longer have replacement motherboards available. Can' wait to see what ails the engine.
My money is on #3 cylinder being fried going on what the intake ports looked like when he first got the inspection covers off. The bridges across them were eaten away, whereas on the other three cylinders they were still intact. Plus it definitely sounds like it has a dead hole.
Love that you saved the excavator. I agree with other comments that the trailer isnt worth it, too much structural damage. You could potentially scrap the aluminum bed and just build something from steel if you wanted to put the effort in since you said the axles and all looked ok. Have you checked if the counterweight is bolted on correctly? Im wondering if its missing a couple bolts to be hanging like that. Hope you continue this series and get it back to working. Would one of the small battery powered pressure washers that can pull from a bucket of water be worth it? Could clean off some of the junk before you open things or have to scrape it off by hand. The 60v one from Dewalt works pretty well although I know you use milwaukee
Another very enjoyable video series. I loved every minute of it. NOW, go back and get that track loader. It deserves to be with "Jack Steel" for the rest of it's days. Please go back and get it. Thank you so much for doing what you do and sharing it all with us, your loyal watchers. I can't wait for the next thing you put out. GREAT STUFF!
Those dump trailers are the most dangerous things to operate. If the load doesn't move while dumping, they fall over. With all the work it will take to get it road worthy, I would buy it for scrap. You'll make out with all that aluminum, and steel.
I USED TO REPAIR DETROITS. THE WHITE SMOKE LOOKS LIKE WATER GETTING INTO THE CYLINDERS. THE INJECTORS HAVE COPPER SLEEVES THAT ISOLATE COOLANT FROM THE CYLINDERS. LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE LEAKING. THEY CAN BE CHANGED THEN YOU HAVE TO BLOCK OFF EVERY WATER OUTLET WITH RUBBER SEALS AND FLANGES. THEN PRESSURE TESTED IN A HEATER TANK UP TO RUNNING TEMPERATURE, THEN AIR PRESSURE APPLIED TO CHECK FOR LEAKS ON THE INJECTOR SLEEVES.
Matt: I am a retired Fire Fighter Paramedic, the way you were using that chain saw while on the arm of the machine, was extremely dangerous, we want you to be around for more great video's, use caution , please
Greetings from the UK - great to see another old beast saved from the scrap yard. Looking forward to the multiple upcoming videos on the engine rebuild, hydraulics and the things you don't yet know about! As a former tree surgeon in a country where Health and Safety is all pervasive, I chuckled when I watched you use a top handled saw (for use by climbers only here) with no ballistic PPE and not even a helmet, visor and ear defenders - only for the ear defenders to come out later ........ If only!
I think you could get another 4-71 to replace that one or use for parts to fix it for pretty cheap. This is my favorite excavator, every part of it just looks so dang cool.
Great Job saving this historic beast. Needs work, but what a joy to run in future years. Live on past another 50 or 100 years Insley. After my own heart, non computered. They run infinitely. Got a 5 ton and a 1.5 ton. No Def and No computers, pure machine, both excavators. Love them for the same reason, simple and to the point. Awesome.
The aluminum dump trailer is toast for any actual road use. Like others have said, it's worth it for the axels, hydraulic cylinder and the fifth-wheel plate. The bin may be too far gone for road hauling but it would make a good yard bin for tossing scrap into it. It can probably be rigged up as a roll-on for a flatbed trailer.
This brand is mostly known for the cable shovels from the late 1800's to the early 1900's, that were steam operated up until they switched to gas and diesel engines, and shortly after that became hydralic.
Your videos on the Insley had perfect timing. I just bought an H100 last week. Been sitting for awhile. I had to put new batteries in it and fill the hydraulic system. Multiple leaks that I’m in the process of repairing do I can get it hauled home. 471 Detoit runs great with only needing filters and fresh oil. Thanks for the great video.
It's a lot of fun listening to you describe what needs to be done, and then finding a way to do it. That kind of mental organization doesn't just happen. You were born to do what you're doing. I thoroughly enjoyed this episode and I can't wait to see the full beast repaired.
GREAT recovery! Really enjoyed all the content. Definitely impressed at the resurrection of that Detroit. I'd give that thing a new life, it's worked for it, lived through it and waited long enough. Superb work by the flatbed driver - no getting stuck, no scary moments, 1-2-3 by the numbers. Also, Area Diesel FTW!
The problem with Aluminum is that it has a finite fatigue life unlike steel, which is infinite. Once you start seeing fractures and embrittlement in an aluminum part the only thing it's good for is scrap. It cannot be fixed at any price.
The thing with the hydraulic hoses where the guy says it doesn't matter. It seems like that all across the board wherever you go to supposed professionals. Noone knows, noone cares, not my job, not my fault, you did it wrong. I have a Neighbor with a 2024 Polaris side by side with 30 hours on it, still under warranty. It grinds and pops out of reverse. He took it into the dealer where he bought it and the guy says that's normal. They also have him convinced that he's not operating the shifter properly. We're expected to just roll over and accept complete bullshit.
Yeah, and it's not just equipment related. That attitude is creeping into many aspects of life in America. I brought my RAM truck to the dealer for a recall. The technician totally botched it and the service manager made all kinds of excuses for the guy. It wasn't that long ago when you could count on the dealer as being the last line of defense, so to speak. Not anymore, in my opinion.
I have a relative with a Polaris with those issues too. The sad part is the dealer is correct - they just do that. Can't get it out of park when you're on a hill? Tough luck, that's how it was designed. Not a defect. It's sad.
@@knurlgnar24 Nah, this pops out of reverse. There's an easy way to check if the cable is adjusted correctly but the dealer didn't bother and he's afraid of voiding the warranty. If that reverse gear shears a tooth or something though you can bet the dealer will do anything they can to worm out of the warranty.
@@unclebuck5051 Funny thing isn't it? We've got knuckleheads doing critical jobs on road going vehicles when they can find a way to screw up changing a tire. There are still plenty of kids who want to learn and want to do a good job but the Old Heads have gotten tired of getting screwed over and they've mostly left so there's no real training. This is everything from garbage collectors to brain surgeons.
I’ve seen guys take 2 0r 3 years to re build an older machine. But to me if you can why would you not. They are built way better. I have a Chinesem excavator not even a year old just ordered new tracks, the sun cover canopy has fallen off the steel literally snaped, chock and accelerator cable all need fixing, the hour clock has never worked , it would be lucky to have done 50hrs. Thanks for another great video
Great job on getting the Insley running and moved home. Leave the dump trailer. you don't need that much work. Put the energy and money into the Insley. You'll be glad you did.
That aluminum dump trailer is not even worth it, leave it to scrap out due to way to much work for it to even get back on the road. Also on the engine, you are certainly down a cylinder and the head may be cracked. Two Strokes are very reliable but one thing I remember is that they are prone to overheating if you are not watching the engine temp closely, so check the radiator and cooling system as well. Great to see this old machine come back to life and get to work again.
This would be an awesome machine to keep working on. Seeing these older machines come back to life is so satisfying. Also, it's a great show piece. Not many can claim to have an Insley excavator. And, to add, having a 100% made in America machine is just the cherry on top. All these modern American companies, like Cat and John Deere, make their components overseas and only assemble in the U.S, which isn't really "Made in the USA". Just by looking at this thing, it's a friggin' tank. Definitely from a time where they wanted things to last.
Thanks for showing us and getting Jack Steel started in its rejuvenation. It’s a bit of a video content volcano and in the end you’ll have a very useful machine. Your intros, outros and dialogues in between are becoming some of the better content on RUclips. I very much enjoy this although I did like your silent tool and machine refurbishment from long ago.thanks! 😊
Determination.. Excellent 👍 Once governor is hooked up it will have normal power. I had many machines 471 Detroit ..Low torque at low rpm. 471N 4 valve is more modern engine plenty of cheap parts around. "Old forge power" in Pennsylvania has hundreds of motors parts . 2000rpm sounds like 5000 which is normal on these. I hear it running on all four 😊 You must operate at close to 2000 rpm or its a slug. I am deaf from them. They require 40w oil also or lots of blow by smoke. They blue white smoke until they get run hard and clear out after a while. Blower seals and or stuck rings is common issues. Lol
@@Nudnik1 -I would also be suspect of worn blower seals. Also be curious if the blower drains are plugged and its sucking a bunch of old sludge oil into it. The other issue could be the hydraulic pumps pulling it down. I thought these engines had a clutch disconnect. I would try to run it with the clutch disconnect on. Might run without over fueling.
@kevinoscarson2941 true. Some had twin disc clutch like cranes to let engine warm up first . Wet stacking from lots of cold idle was an issue. Rings get stuck lots of blow by. Often they could run away from blower seals dumping oil into intake. An emergency spring loaded shut off flap is on intake blower to shut it down.
Hey my friend I just love that excavator and the fact that you saved it from the scrap yard thank you very much and I'm looking forward to watching more videos on this machine God bless you my brother God bless you
1:18:32 My thoughts? Any old machine, car, whatever, that is willing to wake up and drag itself out of its own grave under its own power, no matter how smoky and clattery it is when it does so, deserves to stay safe from the scrapper's torch. If it will do that, it isn't ready to go quite yet. It still has life left in it. This machine was none too happy about the alarm clock going off after a 25+ year slumber, but it did wake up, and with a groan, a lot of diesel knock, and a billowing plume, it clambered out of its grave. It isn't ready to go. While you may not be able to save them all, this one is saveable, and you got to it in time.
Very interesting adventure in rescuing that excavator! As for that aluminum trailer, I wouldn't even consider picking it up for rebuild or any kind of reuse - but it's got to be worth a LOT more than $200 in scrap value and spare parts (rims, etc.)!
32:08 LOL "So I don't really have a great plan…plan is to get this to here without hurting me. PLAN!" Yeah sounds like a plan to me if I eveh hoid one 🤣! Good one!
In your last video you pointed out a missing piston ring and I noticed that the exhaust port horizontal cross members on one of the cylinders is missing whether its been damaged or cut. The cross members prevent the piston ring from getting caught it the port. It's definitely not running one one or more cylinders that is probably the cause of your smoke, if it burns your eyes its likely un burnt or not fully burnt diesel fuel... ask me how I know. The better part is that it doesn't seem to be knocking which could make it a good candidate for an in frame rebuild, pistons, rings, liners, possibly bearings, I would plastigauge them. If you can get to the oil pan without pulling the engine to at least inspect the rods and check for metal shavings and whatnot. I would look at the exhaust ports again and see if the top of the piston looks dented. Your engine possibly ate some piston ring and those cross members in the exhaust port, and that could have bent a valve which will cause smoke and wont run on that cylinder.
Great video. I can't wait to see you get the motor and hydraulics fixed properly. I would love to see it in it's element working and earning it's keep! Thanks for the revival video sir.
I would forget the trailer. To much damage , and repair needed. While the Insley Excavator is worth saving. Still quite a project to fix problems. But will be another adventure to watch. In total agreement, like the old school, pre computer , simple, USA quality built equipment. Keep it going. You have enough projects for your son to grow along with you , roll his sleeves up. Train him young. Hope he learns to love it like his dad.
You know! I thought that was one of the most genuine sum up Speeches ever Matt, spoken from the Heart. as for the Trailer, It's going to cost you more than it's worth, best case scenario, dump the alloy top and rework what's left as a Bed Trailer, anyway, Looking forward to seeing you tear into that Detroit, best wishes from the UK ole Boy.
I was in the "walk away" camp on the last video. After watching you get it out of the woods, it does seem like a pretty good machine overall. I hope there is more to come soon! I would love to see more on the carry deck crane as well.
The seperated dividers on the one cylinder when showing the air box opened up is an indication that the engine overheated at some time and probably the cylnder that is not running. New pistons and liners should fix it up as long as the head didn't crack. Love to see the old girl back in shape to do some work, keep it up.
My whole life I wanted to run equipment like this, but it never happened. Being an old fart, I am glad to see an old machine brought back from the dead. Great video.
Nice find with that excavator. I have been a blacksmith/metal worker for 50 years, and I am amazed at the complete absence of protective gear. Your hearing, eyesight, and fingers, are sort of essential if you want to keep on doing this I would think. Then again ... I may be wrong.
That pinhole that is leaking on the drive hard line... You might be able to either solder or braze up the hole... Or even weld on a steel patch with the tig torch right on the machine... Instead of taking it off or replacing it... Awesome save, great video thanks..
I believe this excavator has some engine issues. watching the first video I could see in the intake ports under the covers some damage to the liners. The webs between the ports were missing. I also notice that the blower had some damage to the upper and lower rotor edges. When you were running it it sounded like it was up against the governor and them some. The governed RPM of the 4-71 is 1800rpm. I might be mistaken but oil might be getting into the combustion chamber and the engine is burning that also. Okay that being said, I think you've got one hell of a nice machine. One that was well cared for and is in great shape. You mentioned the undercarriage and I'd have to agree it's in near perfect condition. The body work, doors hinges and latches all function and are in great shape. No dents or sprung hinges. The only thing I saw was, a missing piece of door glass and a lower front windshield that was cracked and some rust in the floor boards. I believe it's well worth going through and making it part of the fleet. On the trailer. A nice aluminum dump trailer would be nice to have but not this particular one. Aside from there being a lot of repairs that need to be done, the design of it isn't a strong point. You'll notice that the fifth wheel plate is attached to a steel frame, if you can call it that and they are known to be a week point while dumping. If you are not on a level hard surface they can fall over. When dumping the cylinder will lift the body and when it gets to a certain point the front axle will lift off of the ground. This is due to the pivot point of where the fifth wheel frame is mounted to the trailer body frame. I would pass on the trailer and look for one with a full frame and pivot point that's behind the rear axle. Do a search for a "Frameless Dump Trailer" and you'll see what I mean about the front axle. A search for frameless dump trailer accidents will also show what happens to them. Which might be a good thing since that frame twists leaving the tractor upright.
Such a cool and unique machine, especially with the cab on the right side. Really glad to see you were able to save the ol beast! I can only imagine the stories it could tell
Awesome video! Forget loader and dump trailer. Give Jack Steel the TLC it needs and see if a farmer needs an old machine for around the farm. Modern construction and excavating has moved way beyond the capabilities of the old girl. Again Awesome!
Very enjoyable, and interesting guest commentator half way through the video 😉 Very surprised you can still get off the shelf parts for it, that's great. I hope to see videos about the engine overhaul (and everything else).
Hey Matt, I love your content, but would love to see more. Have you considered posting short follow- ups as to what the final dispositions are for some of the equipment you bring home but we never see again? (The AC Road Grader, the Forklift, Big Red, etc.. Thanks for all the great work, please keep doing what youre doing! Best, Ed
Great video. As you said they don't build I'm like that anymore. Hope to see the rebuild of this ole girl . If I was you I would not get that old TLR. I believe there was to much work to fix it up.
Thank you for documenting for us the saving of the Insley now as you get to it the process of making it a working machine again. As far as the trailer goes I would say leave it but only you can truly evaluate need over work required and overall value.
I truly love how you like the things you are doing. Bringing this old iron back to life. Thank you for your videos and keep on doing such great things. Frank
you heard what he said about that dozer, right? Suspension is rusted out, engine locked up. I'm all for saving it, but he can't save 'em all. Jack Steel here has a chance, and I for one would rather 1 machine fully survive than 2 machines slowly rot due to not having the money or time.
I send you my congratulations for this magnificent video. You are an extraordinary mechanic and also a person who practices a wonderful philosophy of life. Greetings from Barcelona, Spain
There is a Japanese term, tsukumogami, which supposes that inanimate objects have a spirit after some amount of time. I feel this very strongly with older machines, tools and vehicles. It seems like you have experienced the same. Looking forward to the care you will put into getting this old fella back into his prime.
Old machines and vehicles definatly have a soul! You'd never believe the amount of trouble other people have trying to drive my '85 lada niva, but for me? She's just totally sweet
The trailer really depends on transport costs, It doesnt have to be pretty to be used on your own property, compare to the alternative solution cost for the project. there is always the scrap value when your done, I wonder if Sam (scrappy industries) would want the dozer for parts? (I`ve no idea on locations) Good luck with the excavator will make an interesting series!
"Will it? . . .Can we? . . ." Two questions in the title that make me watch you make both happen. Congrats on your latest rescue. I look forward to seeing in action.
Very good video. Something that you don’t hear often. Back in the day everything was overbuilt to last. If you live close to a recycling center. I would get it for 200 and make at least 1000 in scrap price.
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I would probaly 4bt swap it IDK if that detroit is worth savin
I have watched nearly all your videos and I like them all. I’m 86 years old so I know what old equipment is and how a lot of it is worth saving. I like the way you think and how well you manage to get by with what you’ve got. It don’t have to be the best, just what ever gets the job done. You were right to save the old excavator but I think that old aluminum dump trailer is more work for you than you will ever come out on. That is just my opinion but I know if you decide to tackle it you will succeed. I just doubt that there is enough clean aluminum there to make what you had to pay for it and count your time worth anything. Good Luck to you.
Are you going to change the piston rings?
Thank you for sharing! Love theese old machines. When are we gonna see Ol red again?
How hard to change cyl seals hoses
I grew up watching Insley machines building the country and was always a little sad to see the name disappear from the construction landscape. They were always unique in that the operator's cab is on the opposite side compared to literally every other machine out there. It always makes me happy to see someone putting time and effort into saving these pieces of living history. And yes, this machine's in fairly pristine condition for its age. Good work!
It looks like you may need to set some rings in that engine❤
Find another engine for that thing the 2 stroke is loud!
There is absolutely NOTHING more exciting and mesmerizing than watching an old excavator get rescued from "the woods." Literally, The Woods. Amazing that you were able to get it home. There will be a LOT of good episodes in the future on Jack's Steel. I will look forward to seeing them!! Thank you!!
My opinion... With all the damage on the aluminum trailer it's not worth it. Not just in terms of welding, but corrosion and pitting
..also to consider metal fatigue .
Might make a good yard trailer. I wouldn't consider it for over the road.
For 200 bones I dont' see buying that trailer as buying a trailer. I see it as buying a useable set of spring ride trailer tandems. Why I wouldn't hesitate if I was in his place; I'd get the nose up on the back of the daycab, drag it home, and if nothing else there's a set of tandems, a fifth wheel plate, maybe a lift cylinder and some hydraulics, to use for another project.
@@TestECull Not to mention the aluminum scrap value ... Heck there's probably a thousand uses just for the plate, in Matt's yard alone.
@@TestECull A fairly hefty load of scrap aluminum, too.
Matt, At work we have a couple of marine 6-71s. One was built in 1942 or 43 and had original design liners in some of the cylinders. It would start and idle on 2 cylinders and spit raw fuel up the stack. The guy that did the rebuild said they honed the sleeves and put the old pistons and rings back in. He put in cylinder kits and had the head done. It acted kind of like your engine before and runs great now. The other one was rebuilt by a truck shop and set up with a misguided cooling system. After several overheats it smoked like yours. After one more severe reheat, it would no longer start. It had a cracked head and the rings were soldered back in the grooves by the piston plating- - tin melted by the overheats. We replaced the head and did the rest of what the truck industry calls an in frame overhaul. With a proper cooling system it stays at a good temperature and smokes way less despite having HV series injectors. N series would improve the smoke and starting as they run at higher pressure.Look forward to seeing the Insley come back to 100%. Keep it original as possible, you wouldn't want a beagle's tail on one of your Weimaraners.
Your always extremely respectful of other people's property never leaving a mess to get what u want. Just thought I'd mention that.
So true .Older machines were built for the long haul. It seemed it was a competion for brand name and durability. Not so much today.
Let the Aluminum trailer go Matt, it looks to be to far gone to make it worth the effort. You won my friend, you got it home running enough to move it self, great job, I will be looking forward to the rebuild of the excavator, going to enjoy it, it may even provide you with an opportunity to do some machining work with your lathe and mill. Wishing you the best on this one, it’s a diamond in the rough in my book, thanks for the update, enjoyed watching.
"Boy she ain't got no balls does she." Truer words have never been spoken. Awesome video, thanks for sharing and documenting the journey.
YA NO BALLS WITH A BROKEN LINER AND A PISTON BEING TORN TO SHIT. READ THE COMMENTS SALVAGE
that little 4 banger is giving all 3 almost good holes all it has. Amazed it didn't launch a piston through the broken cylinder.
You don't have to have balls when your big as that ole rig
@ She’s a big ol Mamajama, that’s for sure.
That dump trailer is 100% scrap body is damaged way to bad to be road worthy again. Love you're channel!
Yepp, the trailer is scrap, not worth rescuing.
Greetings from Hong Kong 😊. As a Insley, born in England, I am mightily pleased that you are rescuing and bringing back to life these remarkable machines 👏👍
Can't wait to see the series rebuilding and refurbishing Jack Steel. At one point in time I had and operated a early 80's Lull 1044 , I swear it could outperform its modern counterparts on the jobsite, it was loud and had 0 creature comforts, but no computers or sensors and just could lift and drive and perform all day. It was like it had something to prove inside itself. Seeing Jack Steel reminds me of that, just wants to get back to work and perform its duty and be useful and strong again.
It's like an old pro wanting to get back to work after being off due to...well, all sorts of things. Yeah, he needs a bit of time to get back into it, but once the man's back in action, good luck keeping up.
Old Red brought me here. Good work on saving this Insley!
I ran a Shrimp Boat back twenty some odd years ago with the same Detroit. Always the injectors are the issues when they make oil. I knew from the beginning of part one what the issue was with this one. You are a good hand Son.
If I was a Mechanicus weirdo (warhammer 40k), I'd say the Machine Spirit of this beautiful beast is that of a stubborn worker, and is saying prayers to the Omnissiah.
What I actually think it's saying is: "How many years have I remained in slumber? The only correct answer is 'Far too long'....It is time to rise, and show that I still draw breath, and will not lay down and accept death's embrace."
That Insley is a gem though. Off the shelf parts is what America has been based on. We are going to lose our country if we don't keep these machines within the off the shelf standard. Work becomes unsustainable when you have to hire a specialty mechanic that has OEM software and parts that are no longer available because the new model is different and old parts run out. The equipment costs more so I have to charge the client more the client has to charge their tenants more so on and so forth. We should be able to buy the equivalent of this machine brand new to this day.
Hi love the video thanks for posting, If you look at Part 1 21:26 when you remove the side covers you can see cylinder liner 3 has burnt out on the inlet port, the slots in the liner keep the rings from springing out when the piston travels past the port to open it. This means if the rings are still intact and have not been ripped off they are probably broke or stuck in there piston groove which equals no compression and unburnt fuel which is where your white smoke is coming from. You did well to get this going at all my hat is off to you sir. If you strip the engine would love to see a video of it, keep up the good work.
These old machines were certainly built to last. Really looking forward to the next installment.
Great save, I'm a believer in "old School" equipment. Anything before computers. Easier to keep running and far less expensive. Insley using parts common to other brands is a plus. That machine will still be running when the new computerized machines will no longer have replacement motherboards available. Can' wait to see what ails the engine.
My money is on #3 cylinder being fried going on what the intake ports looked like when he first got the inspection covers off. The bridges across them were eaten away, whereas on the other three cylinders they were still intact. Plus it definitely sounds like it has a dead hole.
Think that buggered liner will lunch itself fully by the time this thing gets home... Cheers from Oz, fun to watch these old things get played with.
Yeah, that sleeve is going to be in bits pretty soon ay mate? Needs an in chassis rebuild I'd say
Love that you saved the excavator. I agree with other comments that the trailer isnt worth it, too much structural damage. You could potentially scrap the aluminum bed and just build something from steel if you wanted to put the effort in since you said the axles and all looked ok.
Have you checked if the counterweight is bolted on correctly? Im wondering if its missing a couple bolts to be hanging like that.
Hope you continue this series and get it back to working.
Would one of the small battery powered pressure washers that can pull from a bucket of water be worth it? Could clean off some of the junk before you open things or have to scrape it off by hand. The 60v one from Dewalt works pretty well although I know you use milwaukee
Another very enjoyable video series. I loved every minute of it. NOW, go back and get that track loader. It deserves to be with "Jack Steel" for the rest of it's days. Please go back and get it. Thank you so much for doing what you do and sharing it all with us, your loyal watchers. I can't wait for the next thing you put out. GREAT STUFF!
So cool to see that thing saved. That poor engine though.
Those dump trailers are the most dangerous things to operate. If the load doesn't move while dumping, they fall over. With all the work it will take to get it road worthy, I would buy it for scrap. You'll make out with all that aluminum, and steel.
But what would it cost to legally move it?
I USED TO REPAIR DETROITS. THE WHITE SMOKE LOOKS LIKE WATER GETTING INTO THE CYLINDERS. THE INJECTORS HAVE COPPER SLEEVES THAT ISOLATE COOLANT FROM THE CYLINDERS. LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE LEAKING. THEY CAN BE CHANGED THEN YOU HAVE TO BLOCK OFF EVERY WATER OUTLET WITH RUBBER SEALS AND FLANGES. THEN PRESSURE TESTED IN A HEATER TANK UP TO RUNNING TEMPERATURE, THEN AIR PRESSURE APPLIED TO CHECK FOR LEAKS ON THE INJECTOR SLEEVES.
Matt: I am a retired Fire Fighter Paramedic, the way you were using that chain saw while on the arm of the machine, was extremely dangerous, we want you to be around for more great video's, use caution , please
Greetings from the UK - great to see another old beast saved from the scrap yard. Looking forward to the multiple upcoming videos on the engine rebuild, hydraulics and the things you don't yet know about! As a former tree surgeon in a country where Health and Safety is all pervasive, I chuckled when I watched you use a top handled saw (for use by climbers only here) with no ballistic PPE and not even a helmet, visor and ear defenders - only for the ear defenders to come out later ........ If only!
I think you could get another 4-71 to replace that one or use for parts to fix it for pretty cheap. This is my favorite excavator, every part of it just looks so dang cool.
Great Job saving this historic beast. Needs work, but what a joy to run in future years. Live on past another 50 or 100 years Insley. After my own heart, non computered. They run infinitely. Got a 5 ton and a 1.5 ton. No Def and No computers, pure machine, both excavators. Love them for the same reason, simple and to the point. Awesome.
The aluminum dump trailer is toast for any actual road use. Like others have said, it's worth it for the axels, hydraulic cylinder and the fifth-wheel plate. The bin may be too far gone for road hauling but it would make a good yard bin for tossing scrap into it. It can probably be rigged up as a roll-on for a flatbed trailer.
I've seen a lot of old Excavators but never seen that brand and glad to see you saved that ole girl from the scrap yard 👍
This brand is mostly known for the cable shovels from the late 1800's to the early 1900's, that were steam operated up until they switched to gas and diesel engines, and shortly after that became hydralic.
That trailer will bring more in scrap than it’s worth to fix up.
Your videos on the Insley had perfect timing. I just bought an H100 last week. Been sitting for awhile. I had to put new batteries in it and fill the hydraulic system. Multiple leaks that I’m in the process of repairing do I can get it hauled home. 471 Detoit runs great with only needing filters and fresh oil. Thanks for the great video.
It's a lot of fun listening to you describe what needs to be done, and then finding a way to do it. That kind of mental organization doesn't just happen. You were born to do what you're doing. I thoroughly enjoyed this episode and I can't wait to see the full beast repaired.
GREAT recovery! Really enjoyed all the content. Definitely impressed at the resurrection of that Detroit. I'd give that thing a new life, it's worked for it, lived through it and waited long enough. Superb work by the flatbed driver - no getting stuck, no scary moments, 1-2-3 by the numbers. Also, Area Diesel FTW!
Loved it when you say " size does matter." 😊❤Thank you for sharing 👌 😊
The problem with Aluminum is that it has a finite fatigue life unlike steel, which is infinite. Once you start seeing fractures and embrittlement in an aluminum part the only thing it's good for is scrap. It cannot be fixed at any price.
The Dump trailer is only worth scrap price .
I agree with others it's more than likely more work than what you make hauling it across the scales .
The thing with the hydraulic hoses where the guy says it doesn't matter. It seems like that all across the board wherever you go to supposed professionals. Noone knows, noone cares, not my job, not my fault, you did it wrong. I have a Neighbor with a 2024 Polaris side by side with 30 hours on it, still under warranty. It grinds and pops out of reverse. He took it into the dealer where he bought it and the guy says that's normal. They also have him convinced that he's not operating the shifter properly. We're expected to just roll over and accept complete bullshit.
Yeah, and it's not just equipment related. That attitude is creeping into many aspects of life in America. I brought my RAM truck to the dealer for a recall. The technician totally botched it and the service manager made all kinds of excuses for the guy. It wasn't that long ago when you could count on the dealer as being the last line of defense, so to speak. Not anymore, in my opinion.
I have a relative with a Polaris with those issues too. The sad part is the dealer is correct - they just do that. Can't get it out of park when you're on a hill? Tough luck, that's how it was designed. Not a defect. It's sad.
@@knurlgnar24 Nah, this pops out of reverse. There's an easy way to check if the cable is adjusted correctly but the dealer didn't bother and he's afraid of voiding the warranty. If that reverse gear shears a tooth or something though you can bet the dealer will do anything they can to worm out of the warranty.
@@unclebuck5051 Funny thing isn't it? We've got knuckleheads doing critical jobs on road going vehicles when they can find a way to screw up changing a tire. There are still plenty of kids who want to learn and want to do a good job but the Old Heads have gotten tired of getting screwed over and they've mostly left so there's no real training. This is everything from garbage collectors to brain surgeons.
I’ve seen guys take 2 0r 3 years to re build an older machine.
But to me if you can why would you not. They are built way better.
I have a Chinesem excavator not even a year old just ordered new tracks, the sun cover canopy has fallen off the steel literally snaped, chock and accelerator cable all need fixing, the hour clock has never worked , it would be lucky to have done 50hrs.
Thanks for another great video
There is a ton of 4-71 engines in the northern Illinois area. They sell extremely cheap. Easy to repower.
Great job on getting the Insley running and moved home. Leave the dump trailer. you don't need that much work. Put the energy and money into the Insley. You'll be glad you did.
That aluminum dump trailer is not even worth it, leave it to scrap out due to way to much work for it to even get back on the road.
Also on the engine, you are certainly down a cylinder and the head may be cracked. Two Strokes are very reliable but one thing I remember is that they are prone to overheating if you are not watching the engine temp closely, so check the radiator and cooling system as well.
Great to see this old machine come back to life and get to work again.
She runs a bit better with the new injectors but boy does she smoke. Great job in getting it to the shop. It was a lot of work.
Smoking is a sure sign of good oil flow. Maybe a bit too much and where you don’t want it but it’s a lot better than the alternative.
This would be an awesome machine to keep working on. Seeing these older machines come back to life is so satisfying. Also, it's a great show piece. Not many can claim to have an Insley excavator.
And, to add, having a 100% made in America machine is just the cherry on top. All these modern American companies, like Cat and John Deere, make their components overseas and only assemble in the U.S, which isn't really "Made in the USA". Just by looking at this thing, it's a friggin' tank. Definitely from a time where they wanted things to last.
Thanks for showing us and getting Jack Steel started in its rejuvenation. It’s a bit of a video content volcano and in the end you’ll have a very useful machine.
Your intros, outros and dialogues in between are becoming some of the better content on RUclips. I very much enjoy this although I did like your silent tool and machine refurbishment from long ago.thanks! 😊
Determination..
Excellent 👍
Once governor is hooked up it will have normal power.
I had many machines 471 Detroit ..Low torque at low rpm.
471N 4 valve is more modern engine plenty of cheap parts around.
"Old forge power" in Pennsylvania has hundreds of motors parts .
2000rpm sounds like 5000 which is normal on these.
I hear it running on all four 😊
You must operate at close to 2000 rpm or its a slug.
I am deaf from them.
They require 40w oil also or lots of blow by smoke.
They blue white smoke until they get run hard and clear out after a while.
Blower seals and or stuck rings is common issues.
Lol
@@Nudnik1 -I would also be suspect of worn blower seals. Also be curious if the blower drains are plugged and its sucking a bunch of old sludge oil into it. The other issue could be the hydraulic pumps pulling it down. I thought these engines had a clutch disconnect. I would try to run it with the clutch disconnect on. Might run without over fueling.
@kevinoscarson2941 true. Some had twin disc clutch like cranes to let engine warm up first .
Wet stacking from lots of cold idle was an issue.
Rings get stuck lots of blow by.
Often they could run away from blower seals dumping oil into intake.
An emergency spring loaded shut off flap is on intake blower to shut it down.
Hey my friend I just love that excavator and the fact that you saved it from the scrap yard thank you very much and I'm looking forward to watching more videos on this machine God bless you my brother God bless you
You don't need the dump truck bed !
Thank you for saving this machine! 😎
Not sure what you'll do with it but would love to see you getting her running properly.
1:18:32 My thoughts?
Any old machine, car, whatever, that is willing to wake up and drag itself out of its own grave under its own power, no matter how smoky and clattery it is when it does so, deserves to stay safe from the scrapper's torch. If it will do that, it isn't ready to go quite yet. It still has life left in it.
This machine was none too happy about the alarm clock going off after a 25+ year slumber, but it did wake up, and with a groan, a lot of diesel knock, and a billowing plume, it clambered out of its grave. It isn't ready to go. While you may not be able to save them all, this one is saveable, and you got to it in time.
American steel back when a machine was built to be mighty.
Looking forward to watching it come back to its mighty ways.
All that trailer is worth is scrap. Probably more work then its worth that is unless you are looking for a project....
Very interesting adventure in rescuing that excavator! As for that aluminum trailer, I wouldn't even consider picking it up for rebuild or any kind of reuse - but it's got to be worth a LOT more than $200 in scrap value and spare parts (rims, etc.)!
32:08 LOL "So I don't really have a great plan…plan is to get this to here without hurting me. PLAN!" Yeah sounds like a plan to me if I eveh hoid one 🤣! Good one!
In your last video you pointed out a missing piston ring and I noticed that the exhaust port horizontal cross members on one of the cylinders is missing whether its been damaged or cut. The cross members prevent the piston ring from getting caught it the port. It's definitely not running one one or more cylinders that is probably the cause of your smoke, if it burns your eyes its likely un burnt or not fully burnt diesel fuel... ask me how I know.
The better part is that it doesn't seem to be knocking which could make it a good candidate for an in frame rebuild, pistons, rings, liners, possibly bearings, I would plastigauge them. If you can get to the oil pan without pulling the engine to at least inspect the rods and check for metal shavings and whatnot. I would look at the exhaust ports again and see if the top of the piston looks dented. Your engine possibly ate some piston ring and those cross members in the exhaust port, and that could have bent a valve which will cause smoke and wont run on that cylinder.
Thats the intake port and the sleeve has cracked in half. Sleeves, rings, some top end and governor work and I bet it'll be good to go
I think that trailer Is worth nothing but scrap myself. Nice job on getting that Excavator moving. Nice video man!!
Great video. I can't wait to see you get the motor and hydraulics fixed properly. I would love to see it in it's element working and earning it's keep! Thanks for the revival video sir.
I would forget the trailer. To much damage , and repair needed. While the Insley Excavator is worth saving. Still quite a project to fix problems. But will be another adventure to watch. In total agreement, like the old school, pre computer , simple, USA quality built equipment. Keep it going. You have enough projects for your son to grow along with you , roll his sleeves up. Train him young. Hope he learns to love it like his dad.
You know! I thought that was one of the most genuine sum up Speeches ever Matt, spoken from the Heart.
as for the Trailer, It's going to cost you more than it's worth, best case scenario, dump the alloy top and rework what's left as a Bed Trailer, anyway, Looking forward to seeing you tear into that Detroit, best wishes from the UK ole Boy.
Great video - can we expect a Part 3? Would LOVE to see this guy running like it should be.
I was in the "walk away" camp on the last video. After watching you get it out of the woods, it does seem like a pretty good machine overall. I hope there is more to come soon!
I would love to see more on the carry deck crane as well.
The seperated dividers on the one cylinder when showing the air box opened up is an indication that the engine overheated at some time and probably the cylnder that is not running. New pistons and liners should fix it up as long as the head didn't crack. Love to see the old girl back in shape to do some work, keep it up.
Good score with the Insley, Forget the trailer and crawler loader.
That trailer has far more problems than you can see. It would take a hell of a lot to make it roadworthy.
My whole life I wanted to run equipment like this, but it never happened. Being an old fart, I am glad to see an old machine brought back from the dead. Great video.
She LIVES! nice work man!
Nice find with that excavator. I have been a blacksmith/metal worker for 50 years, and I am amazed at the complete absence of protective gear. Your hearing, eyesight, and fingers, are sort of essential if you want to keep on doing this I would think. Then again ... I may be wrong.
That pinhole that is leaking on the drive hard line... You might be able to either solder or braze up the hole... Or even weld on a steel patch with the tig torch right on the machine... Instead of taking it off or replacing it... Awesome save, great video thanks..
I believe this excavator has some engine issues. watching the first video I could see in the intake ports under the covers some damage to the liners. The webs between the ports were missing. I also notice that the blower had some damage to the upper and lower rotor edges. When you were running it it sounded like it was up against the governor and them some. The governed RPM of the 4-71 is 1800rpm. I might be mistaken but oil might be getting into the combustion chamber and the engine is burning that also. Okay that being said, I think you've got one hell of a nice machine. One that was well cared for and is in great shape. You mentioned the undercarriage and I'd have to agree it's in near perfect condition. The body work, doors hinges and latches all function and are in great shape. No dents or sprung hinges. The only thing I saw was, a missing piece of door glass and a lower front windshield that was cracked and some rust in the floor boards. I believe it's well worth going through and making it part of the fleet.
On the trailer. A nice aluminum dump trailer would be nice to have but not this particular one. Aside from there being a lot of repairs that need to be done, the design of it isn't a strong point. You'll notice that the fifth wheel plate is attached to a steel frame, if you can call it that and they are known to be a week point while dumping. If you are not on a level hard surface they can fall over. When dumping the cylinder will lift the body and when it gets to a certain point the front axle will lift off of the ground. This is due to the pivot point of where the fifth wheel frame is mounted to the trailer body frame. I would pass on the trailer and look for one with a full frame and pivot point that's behind the rear axle. Do a search for a "Frameless Dump Trailer" and you'll see what I mean about the front axle. A search for frameless dump trailer accidents will also show what happens to them. Which might be a good thing since that frame twists leaving the tractor upright.
Such a cool and unique machine, especially with the cab on the right side. Really glad to see you were able to save the ol beast! I can only imagine the stories it could tell
I would say based on what you showed us that the trailer should go to the scrap yard.
Looking forward to seeing the ongoing work on this machine. Appreciate your energy and enthusiasm, well done.
Great to watch you rescue these machines. I feel this one has a kit of promise and potential.
Keep doing what you do, you'll be happier for it, grease
I take my hat off for you, getting that thing back running and home was something, you a real grinder, the world needs 8 Billion you'es.
Area Diesel Service if nobody has told you in the last five minutes...You guys rock. Once more I hear about how helpful friendly and helpful you are.
Such a beautiful old Gal. Its smokeds so hard... Sure its not a Steam-Shovel? 😅 She needs Help for sure.
You did it! Had my doubts that the new injectors would get you onto a trailer. Great job getting that out and home.
Awesome video! Forget loader and dump trailer. Give Jack Steel the TLC it needs and see if a farmer needs an old machine for around the farm. Modern construction and excavating has moved way beyond the capabilities of the old girl. Again Awesome!
Very enjoyable, and interesting guest commentator half way through the video 😉 Very surprised you can still get off the shelf parts for it, that's great. I hope to see videos about the engine overhaul (and everything else).
Hey Matt, I love your content, but would love to see more.
Have you considered posting short follow- ups as to what the final dispositions are for some of the equipment you bring home but we never see again? (The AC Road Grader, the Forklift, Big Red, etc..
Thanks for all the great work, please keep doing what youre doing!
Best, Ed
Great video. As you said they don't build I'm like that anymore. Hope to see the rebuild of this ole girl . If I was you I would not get that old TLR. I believe there was to much work to fix it up.
Thank you for documenting for us the saving of the Insley now as you get to it the process of making it a working machine again. As far as the trailer goes I would say leave it but only you can truly evaluate need over work required and overall value.
Excellent job, love what you're doing. If I was you, I'd leave that trailer right where it is, and forget it.
Looking forward to seeing the engine running as it should then seeing what it can do as a digger.
It's worth fixing because you have the background, knowledge and the experience to repair the trailer correctly. Good luck!
And prices these days. Are nuts so this is a great biy
I truly love how you like the things you are doing. Bringing this old iron back to life. Thank you for your videos and keep on doing such great things. Frank
I really hope you re sleeve that one cylinder. She wont run long like that, and she will lock up if you dont fix it.
Must be enough piston left to keep the rod swinging the right direction, that bore is a cheese grater, cant have rings anymore surely..
Are you talking about #2 with the broken intake ports in the liner?
Forget the trailer. SAVE THE INTERNATIONAL DOZER !
you heard what he said about that dozer, right? Suspension is rusted out, engine locked up.
I'm all for saving it, but he can't save 'em all. Jack Steel here has a chance, and I for one would rather 1 machine fully survive than 2 machines slowly rot due to not having the money or time.
Learning to weld aluminum is definitely worth the time investment, and that trailer will give you a huge amount to work with while doing so.
I send you my congratulations for this magnificent video.
You are an extraordinary mechanic and also a person who practices a wonderful philosophy of life. Greetings from Barcelona, Spain
There is a Japanese term, tsukumogami, which supposes that inanimate objects have a spirit after some amount of time. I feel this very strongly with older machines, tools and vehicles. It seems like you have experienced the same. Looking forward to the care you will put into getting this old fella back into his prime.
Or as a 40k Mechanicus fan would say, it's the Machine Spirit.
Old machines and vehicles definatly have a soul! You'd never believe the amount of trouble other people have trying to drive my '85 lada niva, but for me? She's just totally sweet
The trailer really depends on transport costs, It doesnt have to be pretty to be used on your own property, compare to the alternative solution cost for the project. there is always the scrap value when your done, I wonder if Sam (scrappy industries) would want the dozer for parts? (I`ve no idea on locations) Good luck with the excavator will make an interesting series!
Great save!
Engine overhaul, cylinder rebuild and the lines. Poof, she's a beast again.
"Will it? . . .Can we? . . ." Two questions in the title that make me watch you make both happen. Congrats on your latest rescue. I look forward to seeing in action.
I love the mosquito eradication attachment.
Very good video.
Something that you don’t hear often. Back in the day everything was overbuilt to last. If you live close to a recycling center. I would get it for 200 and make at least 1000 in scrap price.
Likely needs an inframe...probably will find ring or liner damage for sure. Nice save!
Clearly see damage to the sleeve on cylerder no 3 ( counting from left) when firts barring engine over. Am very impressed it ran at all. Alan, UK