Interesting and thank you for the follow up. I heard you say you have 50k miles which gives a lifetime average of 50000/(449+12920)=3.74 miles/kwh, this is reasonable. I commented in your last video mine doesn’t make sense, I see 23029/(2264+1214)=6.62 miles per kWh. I do a lot of DC charging because I mostly use the car to go visit family etc where I need to charge DC, but I don’t think it’s near double the AC. I think my AC counter is off, I must have done more than 1214 kWh is my conclusion. I’m not much more efficient than you are. I do a lot of highway miles so I should have less efficiency.
That calculation also matches quite tightly with the long term average displayed by on my dashboard, which is 3.8 m/kWh. I've never reset the trip on the dash. To be honest I think there's quite a few values/calculations that don't really make sense. I'm not sure which ones to believe, which is a shame.
Have you views regarding the 12V battery? EV6, like many EVs, has a love-hate relationship with the 12V and a number of people have a flat 12V. Is it worth getting a better quality 12V to replace the bottom of the line version that Kia provides? There is a the faulty ICCU issue that can kill the 12V, but that’s a different issue to the everyday stress that the EV6 places on the 12V.
I try to avoid having too many views on issues that other people experience. It's something that hasn't been a problem for me and I don't know if that's because I use the car on a more regular basis, because I do a lot of miles each time I use it, I was lucky and got a good battery (and ICCU) from the batch, or something else. I do however keep a 'jump booster' battery pack in my car for emergencies, to jump start if I need it or if anyone else I meet needs it. And I think that's prudent.
I came to comments also to post the calculated 3.74 miles per kwh. But I will add that your average time spent charging on DC is about 14 minutes. You uplift an average of nearly 14 kilowatts per ac charge (that's probably 2 to 3 hours per session) Q: is it better for battery health to uplift say 5 hours In one go or ok for a smaller more frequent charge sessions? Q what constitutes a charge session? Is it where the battery is continuously charged without break or If the energy provider, say Octopus modulates the charging and breaks charge session for a while then continues it automatically, is that counted as one or more sessions?
Thanks. There are probably lots of additional statistics that can be calculated and things that can be surmised and discussed. What you've worked out there does fit with my usual routines. When I DC rapid charge, I tend to only take as much as I need to get me home (to keep costs and time lower) so 14 minutes is reasonable as an average. On AC I often set the car to the slower 60% charge rate, so that it charges slower for longer, this helps on Octopus Energy IO because it then charges for longer and I get the low 7p rate for the whole house for more hours. But then when I free energy due to renewable excess I set it full speed to get as much as I can for free in the 2 or 3 hour slot. I don't know what's better for battery health on AC, but I think shorter DC charges must be better as the battery heats up less that way.
Great video, I have my EV6 Gt-line AWD for only 16 months and only done about 10,000 miles so this is interesting. Thank you for doing the video
Thanks, glad you found it interesting.
Interesting and thank you for the follow up. I heard you say you have 50k miles which gives a lifetime average of 50000/(449+12920)=3.74 miles/kwh, this is reasonable. I commented in your last video mine doesn’t make sense, I see 23029/(2264+1214)=6.62 miles per kWh. I do a lot of DC charging because I mostly use the car to go visit family etc where I need to charge DC, but I don’t think it’s near double the AC. I think my AC counter is off, I must have done more than 1214 kWh is my conclusion. I’m not much more efficient than you are. I do a lot of highway miles so I should have less efficiency.
That calculation also matches quite tightly with the long term average displayed by on my dashboard, which is 3.8 m/kWh. I've never reset the trip on the dash. To be honest I think there's quite a few values/calculations that don't really make sense. I'm not sure which ones to believe, which is a shame.
Have you views regarding the 12V battery? EV6, like many EVs, has a love-hate relationship with the 12V and a number of people have a flat 12V. Is it worth getting a better quality 12V to replace the bottom of the line version that Kia provides? There is a the faulty ICCU issue that can kill the 12V, but that’s a different issue to the everyday stress that the EV6 places on the 12V.
I try to avoid having too many views on issues that other people experience. It's something that hasn't been a problem for me and I don't know if that's because I use the car on a more regular basis, because I do a lot of miles each time I use it, I was lucky and got a good battery (and ICCU) from the batch, or something else. I do however keep a 'jump booster' battery pack in my car for emergencies, to jump start if I need it or if anyone else I meet needs it. And I think that's prudent.
I came to comments also to post the calculated 3.74 miles per kwh.
But I will add that your average time spent charging on DC is about 14 minutes.
You uplift an average of nearly 14 kilowatts per ac charge (that's probably 2 to 3 hours per session)
Q: is it better for battery health to uplift say 5 hours In one go or ok for a smaller more frequent charge sessions?
Q what constitutes a charge session? Is it where the battery is continuously charged without break or
If the energy provider, say Octopus modulates the charging and breaks charge session for a while then continues it automatically, is that counted as one or more sessions?
Thanks. There are probably lots of additional statistics that can be calculated and things that can be surmised and discussed. What you've worked out there does fit with my usual routines. When I DC rapid charge, I tend to only take as much as I need to get me home (to keep costs and time lower) so 14 minutes is reasonable as an average.
On AC I often set the car to the slower 60% charge rate, so that it charges slower for longer, this helps on Octopus Energy IO because it then charges for longer and I get the low 7p rate for the whole house for more hours. But then when I free energy due to renewable excess I set it full speed to get as much as I can for free in the 2 or 3 hour slot.
I don't know what's better for battery health on AC, but I think shorter DC charges must be better as the battery heats up less that way.