The True ORIGINS of Genesis Creation Will BLOW Your Mind
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- Опубликовано: 14 июл 2023
- The True ORIGINS of Genesis Creation Will BLOW Your Mind
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We explore the fascinating connections between the creation myth in Genesis 1 and the Enuma Elish, an ancient Babylonian epic. Discover how Marduk's triumph over Tiamat and the subsequent creation of the cosmos resonate in the biblical narrative.
But that's not all! We delve into the intriguing contrasts between Genesis 1 and Genesis 2, focusing on the different orders of creation. This discrepancy has led scholars to propose multiple authors, with Genesis 2 potentially predating Genesis 1. We'll also showcase the presence of Akkadian cognates in Genesis, revealing possible literary dependence and shedding light on the fascinating interplay of ancient texts.
The mythical Garden of Eden in Genesis holds a special place in our discussion. Join us as we explore its origins in ancient Mesopotamia and uncover the potential sources that influenced the biblical scribe. We'll unravel the connections between the creation of humankind in Genesis and its older Mesopotamian counterparts, shedding light on the mythical figure of Adam.
And of course, we can't miss the intriguing tale of Eve's creation from Adam's rib. We'll trace this motif back to the older Sumerian myths and discover the echoes that resonate between these ancient narratives.
To wrap up our exploration, we'll tackle the theme of lost immortality. Drawing from the renowned Epic of Gilgamesh and the myth of Adappa & the South Wind, we'll unveil the significant role these myths play in the biblical creation stories.
Thanks to Dr. Joshua Bowen for providing the details in this video. Be sure to get his book, "Learn to Read Ancient Sumerian: An Introduction for Complete Beginners.
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Sources for this video:
Ambos, Claus. Mesopotamische Baurituale aus dem 1. Jahrtausend v. Chr. ISLET, 2004.
Blenkinsopp, Joseph. Creation, Un-Creation, Re-Creation: A Discursive Commentary on Genesis 1-11. New York, NY: T&T Clark International, 2011.
Carr, David. The Formation of Genesis 1-11: Biblical and Other Precursors. New York, NY: Oxford University Press, 2020.
Carr, David. Genesis 1-11. International Exegetical Commentary on the Old Testament. Stuttgart: Kohlhammer, 2021.
Collins, John. Introduction to the Hebrew Bible, Third Edition. Minneapolis, MN: Fortress Press, 2018.
Estes, Daniel. Psalms 73-150. The New American Commentary. Nashville, TN: B&H Publishing, 2019.
Farber, Gertrud. “Das Lied von der Hacke.” Pp. 69-76 in Erzählungen aus dem Land Sumer. Ed. K. Volk. Wiesbaden: Harrassowitz Verlag, 2015.
Foster, Benjamin. Before the Muses: An Anthology of Akkadian Literature. Bethesda, MD: CDL Press, 2005.
Foster, Benjamin. The Epic of Gilgamesh: A New Translation, Analogues, Criticism, and Response, Second Edition. New York, NY: W.W. Norton and Company, 2019.
Hamilton, Victor. The Book of Genesis: Chapters 1-17. New International Commentary on the Old Testament. Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans, 1990.
Holmstedt, Robert. “The Restrictive Syntax of Genesis i 1.” Vetus Testamentum 58 (2008) 56-67.
Keel, Othmar and Schroer, Silvia. Creation: Biblical Theologies in the Context of the Ancient Near East. Translation P. Daniels. Winona Lake, IN: Eisenbrauns, 2015.
Koehler, Ludwig and Baumgartner, Walter. The Hebrew and Aramaic Lexicon of the Old Testament. 2 Volumes. Boston, MA: Brill, 2001.
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You are getting contaminated by an incorrect modern translation of Genesis 1:1 that no honest Hebrew scholar would support, and this is causing you to fall into a type of circular reasoning that "proves" something by removing the evidence to the contrary, which is the fact that there is necessarily a period of growth after the creation of the earth and before the darkness that later came over the earth, which period is implied in the verb barah (he created), and this is something any scholar shouid know if they know anything about the Hebrew language, but unfortunately there are many wannabe scholars who do not understand a word of Hebrew and hence completely miss the point.
In fact, this new translation of 1:1 is so incorrect and has been so often proven to be incorrect that I cannot continue listening to this nonsense after 10 minutes into the video. Sorry, Derek, but this is beginning to be a very shallow and tendencious type of analysis you are bringing forward here. I hope for you that you investigate a bit more and that you try a bit harder on the intellectual honesty, for which you may have to learn Hebrew.
THERE IS NO BORROWING! THESE PARALLEL OF STORIES JUST MEANS THEY DRAW THEIR NARRATIVE FROM OLDER ORIGINAL SOURCE! THE GENESIS COVERS FROM ADAM LEAVING EDEN IN 6764bc until 3170bc IS WHEN JACOB SETTLES IN GOSHEN WITH HIS SONS, 3594years (or 1,312,708.5 days/or 47,735months) OF TIME! SINCE BEFORE THE FLOOD THERE WAS NO YEARLY CALENDAR! IT WAS ALL MEASURED IN DAYS, AS FAR AS HUMAN HISTORY IS CONCERNED. THATS A FACT OF REALITY!
Why do you feel a RUclips video needs all the Hollywood BS drama crap at the start of your video?
I am working through it slowly. It's a great starter with good grammar work.
I've been reading a little on the history of writing and couldn't pass this book by.
I am a Christian. Brought up fundamentalist and literal interpretation of the Bible. I also graduated recently from a Christian college with a ministry leadership degree. I am very much a Christian but I am also intellectual and I don't mind having some of the doctrine I was taught challenged. Personally if I read the bible differently it helps me to reconcile some of my previous issues and questions I had with God.
I am not threatened by thinking outside the box and actually enjoy it.
God , the monotheism mind set.
@@rafaelmontane4810 Rafael It will take time for their Cognitive Dissonance To settle down
But what happens when you dig too deep and find out it’s all smoke and mirrors?
Hey brother, things that will help on the subject is Dr. Michael Heiser’s unseen realm and John Walton on Genesis may God bless you
Look up Yahwism if you haven't already. Yahweh began as a polygod with a wife called Asherah 3000yrs before Christianity existed. Also look up the BITE model by Steven Hassan the worlds top cult expert. From an ex Christian of 20yrs, now atheist.
What’s shocks me that most religious people (I know) are afraid to even consider they are mistaken. To me, that speaks volumes about how traditions, the human brain and fear hold people hostage.
It would shatter their identity. For most that's too terrible a prospect.
It is a hell of an indoctrination system I myself was once a believer. Indoctrination really runs deep.....
@@jenna2431l went through it. And at times l find myself full of doubt to this day. So grateful for this channel. Knowledge is power.
. Alot of people know, yet very few understand, This is why you need a personal relationship with God, knowledge belief and faith. the truth will set you free. Shalom Amen 🙏♥️
@@mikereihana3366ah so you're one of the special few with special understanding.
Niiiiiice bro. You're special
The Pentateuch is the story Israelites used to explain who they are as a people. Borrowing themes, plots, etc. doesn't necessarily debunk the bible for me, as some feel like it does. When you read the first five book of the bible, gotta imagine an elder explaining to some kids their story. You have to know the writing was done centuries of years later from when the "events occurred". I love this kind of stuff.
I say the Jews covered up the truth when tablets was taken from the hanging gardens Babylon.. The Egyptian, Babylonian powers relocated Jews or Hebrews to cainnite sorry slaughtered that spelling..
It actually does debunk the bible as an infallible word of god. I agree with you though it’s an origin story. I wouldn’t say it’s a plagiarised like others say, the myth was universal to everyone who lived in the Near East at the time.
People also need to remember the story of Babel when languages changed, and so of course the stories seem borrowed or copied.
I find difficulty separating the literature from the bludgeon against people that it became.
@@sherrypie63That totally happened how it was described in the bible 🤦♂️
I'm amazed at how the scholars completely ignoring the the shared ancestors of the people of the East. No one copied each other's books, these were the folklore coming from their ancestors, eventually people started writing it down. But I guess it sales books and videos to say the people stole their stories from another people.
This was absolutely fascinating. When
I had to attend classes with the Nuns,
in church to learn about the Bible, I always raised my hand to ask questions of which they could never give me an answer that may any sense to me, they didn't like it, and I
was told to leave, as I was disrupting
the other children. That was the end
of my hot chocolate, and donut, and no more stars in my study book. I was
8yo. I now see that I was right.
I can imagine. I make enemies all day long disputing the bible clearly written by men/women. We have come too far, to allow the deception to continue.
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅mental illness all over the place
Good on you, we as humans should always question everything and thirst for knowledge😊
You still have it completely wrong. How can y’all say the Bible was written by men/women? Tell me what books in the Bible? Which books? Which chapters? I bet y’all have never read the Bible. If y’all have read the Bible and understand it you would know the truth. You are blinded and God has allowed the god of this world to deceive you.
@@justiceLaw0123Weird how the Bible content was written 10,000 years earlier than your apostles 😉
I'm always fascinated with learning about the origins of Biblical materials. What was your favorite part of the video, comment below my friends? Please hit that like button and share to your socials.
Thanks to Dr. Joshua Bowen for providing the details in this video. Be sure to get his book, "Learn to Read Ancient Sumerian: An Introduction for Complete Beginners.
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It is impossible for solid rock material to come from water?
Therefore, the King James Bible narrative may be correct that the solid material we call Earth along with Water did NOT need to be created because it already existed?
Nonetheless, if the King James version is true, Tiamat did NOT create life since She is the sea goddess and solid material such as rocks are NOT formed by water?
It's incredible how Torah was written to keep the riff raff out of the garden by playing with their imaginations.
I am enjoying your channel. As a Muslim, it affects me too. Because the 3 religions - Judaism, Christianity & Islam- are from same bunch, the Abrahamic bunch. They share same stories, same prophets, same figures like Adam (Adam), Noah, (Nuh) Jesus (Isa), Moses (Musa), Enoch (Idris), Abel (Habil), Cain (Qabil), the Great Flood etc. If Bible plagiarizes from Anunnaki, then Quran too, because Quran shares Jewish and Christian tradition at some levels. If God of Christianity & Yahweh of Judaism are actually plagiarized versions of Sumerian gods Enki, Enlil etc, then the Muslim god of Allah too. First verse in Quran says, "Read!", implying that a Muslim must always read and seek truth, so I am reading & I am seeking truth. Many Muslim readers entering this channel will be upset with this comment of mine, may even accuse me of blasphemy. But that is OK..
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The "Noah" character wasn't even called Utanapishtim at first. The earliest version was known as Ziusudra in the Ur III versions of the Sumerian Kings list, then he came to be known as Atrahasis in the Epic of Atrahasis, then Utnapishtim in the Epic of Gilgamesh, then Noah in the Bible. All versons except Noah were specified as the Kings of the city of Shuruppak (incidentally a real place). Atrahasis may have inspired the Canaanite Kothar-wa-Khasis, who likely in turn inspired the Islamic Al-Khidr.
Well said.
I'm confused. Can you explain more. I'm Muslim and what you said I'd like to know more
@@fatimaahmed-co1ey its like a song sampled from the original version to a techno beat version 10 000 years later. if you get the link you understand books are not nececerrry
Bruh the Epic of Gilgamesh is the oldes tablet writhen stroy also oldest story
@@flux9433 I just copied this from google ....A Stray Sumerian Tablet has been published today by Cambridge University Library and focuses on a diminutive clay tablet, written by a scribe in ancient Iraq, some 4,200 years ago. A description of the tablet along with high-resolution images and a 3D model can also be seen on Cambridge Digital Library.
The production on this video is truly remarkable. I don't feel I am being hyperbolic by saying that this isn't just an educational tool but also a work of art. Bravo Derek! ❤
Utter BS, this video has the dates wrong, Mesopotamia wasn't inhabited till after the great flood the carved mountains prove that
@@sambenson8787which great flood there were More than 1
@@michellecardenas6072 there was only 1 in the torah
It's misleading and full of lies.
"the carved mountains prove that."
As though the flood were a literal event.
When you study history, you will come to realize, that recorded history does not always match with reality for various reasons. So drawing paralels of events, that happened in different time frames, creates the danger of incorrect interpretation
Let’s take a more recent history 9/11
Most people think of the day America was attacked or 911 the emergency services. But no one thinks about Ethiopia New Year is 9/11.
So you see it’s all about what you know .
I agree with your interpretation, incorrect people just don't know,this is Satan right now,using this guy to show this video,he is the deceiver wake up people,I love you Lord Jesus Christ and holy Spirit
History and Myths are close cousins
A bit like living your life by the ramblings of people who suffered from audio hallucinations
Or maybe real life is ALWAYS STRANGER THAN FICTION any fiction that can be thought of or conceived
You need to take into account that Apsu and Tiamat gave birth to the Annunaki god's and they could not actually be killed. Enki and brother Enlil with their father Anu had them removed. Being the offspring they decided to leave their designed purpose and then became the Anakim or Fallen Angels. God's could not be killed, although it is reputed that Marduk killed Tiamat and Apsu. No matter how you try to justify these Fallen Angels they broke rank with Prime Creator and decided their own path, which was to hijack humanity. They knew humanity was to be designed and created to become as it says, "the crown of God's creation" that of Prime creator! Yes! Then they hatched their plan, whatever followed you can see, they were determined to enslave the human because they knew that eventually they would become subject to the human, for as Jeshua details through John, "we are also god's"!
All religions on earth are based on the Annunaki god's who are really fallen angels, even the so-called Elohim of the Jewish faith, they stem from Anu and his sons Enki and Enlil ( Jahweh) The true God, Prime Creator didn't start a religion or establish a church, it's all man made, Prime Creator expostulated the "Law of One".
Weapons made from Gold can harm these "gods" we so cherish.. they aren't immortal
They were not the creator.
Its why jesus and others would say “ the one true god”
@@Seanz069 but clearly there are more then one God.. if most religions historically depict what Christianity has not! Christianity calls them angles. But they too are Gods up in haven who have jobs or aspects they watch.. they even canonized humans to angel status.. clearly these humans were not gods like the actual angelic beings that come back to help humanity!
It feels like as soon as the world tried to force everyone to believe there is one God.. the world started to crumble...
Ummm, okayyy.😒
Another channel I follow on here had a recent vid about the origin of Yahweh.
As most already know the ancient Jews were polytheistic. Worshiping El, Ba'al, Yahweh and others.
During the henotheistic period they combined Yahweh and Ba'al (in his Hadad Canaanite form) since they were both storm gods of similar types. One being the mountain storm god, the other the coastal storm god.
Then later they rolled El together with Jahweh/Ba'al. And eliminated references to worship of the other gods, as well as adding in all the admonitions to not worship other gods, golden calves or Ahserah poles.
Of course these changes were made before publishing was a thing. There were just manuscripts that got copied.
So they weren't working very hard to hide their changes. So El Shaddai shows up. Asherah poles get mentioned etc.
The bible tells you the Jews do this, Yah is constantly punishing them for their idols.
other channel?
The biggest surprise for me was finding out just how long they remained polytheistic, which apparently was well into the 1st millennium BCE.
As I have said they were coming after scriptures to tear it apart. Here we are today. The Scriptures Will Be Fulfilled...no Doubt. 🙏🕊️
No they won't. Let me tell you, if a being came back to Earth on the clouds and started murdering anyone who wasn't a Christian or a Muslim, you should fight that being with all your strength, because that is an evil force. No being has the right to take lives because they think they should be worshipped. God is not a narcissist.
@@williamparrish2436well said!
Good job pointing out how different Genesis 1 is from Genesis 2. Genesis 1 starts with the Egyptian creation story and finishes with the Sumerian creation story. Genesis 2:4 is where the Hebrew creation story starts.
Why is it 2 different
@@user-ys7xr9tw4s It's because of the four sources of the Bible. The Yahwist source starts on Genesis 2:4. When they wrote the Septuagint they combined the four sources into one text.
@@Mortismorsthe RUclipsr Usefulcharts taught me about this. I enjoy his religious videos
Thoroughly enjoyed this, well done Derek, you're smashing it!
Thank you brother!
It's about time this story came out, with a lot of details. Tnx much Mythvision!!!!!
Awesome job on this vid. I've Subscribed and checked notices.... Great points
This is one of your best ones yet. I love learning how the in-depth detailed analysis of how the Bible mirrors, mimics, and parallels even more ancient texts
Thank you 😊
❤
Notice how the video clearly stated that the Bible didn’t copy from any one of the others, but that it looks like it took a little from each.
It is flawed thinking to assume that without accepting the possibility that the Bible could be an oral tradition that was written down later from which all the other stories actually disseminated to their current iteration.
It was actually the fact that the Bible coherently contained explanations and reasoning for all other religions that made me realize it was True.
It’s funny that what one person sees for verification someone else sees it exactly the other way as a reason not to believe. I have seen too many supernatural events to disbelieve now.
@@Michael_the_Servant "It was actually the fact that the Bible coherently contained explanations and reasoning for all other religions"
Allow me to laugh maniacally at the koolaidness of that statement until my lungs explode.
Not only is it NOT coherent, but it actually more than once covers much the same story twice because it is clearly at least 2 major cult traditions mashed together with only the most minimal of editing to give it even the same basic semblance of coherency.
In fact it's coherency is so terrible that modern scholars can literally disassemble the text to chart the shift from polytheistic Yahwism of the Israelites to the monotheistic Judaism that solidified after the Israelite elites returned from Babylon in the mid 1st millennium BCE.
Yes that's right! Israel was just as polytheistic as it's Canaanite neighbors until at least the mid 1st millennium BCE.
Also Israelite were Canaanites despite the repeated claims to the contrary in the bible - it just makes it easy to distract people from the fact that the Baal they try to blot out is basically Yahweh in almost every way by description, just as the Canaanite El matches the more fatherly prime deity figure in the bible.
@@mnomadvfx get your facts straight. Archeology evidence established, that the Hebrews started settling in Canaan by about 12000 BCE. Before that is shrouded in the fog of ancient history
some thousands years ago someone came up with a fictional story about things he couldn't explain is the basis for fairy-tale a book later,
this is then called "the absolute truth", and lots of people still believe that, and are even ready to kill for it - in the name of a loving god.
THIS blows my mind
At the end of the day there was no entertainment. No books or television.. these ppl were clearly looking at the sky and creating storylines about what they see above them
The world is not what we have been told! Look up New York post newspapers from 1800s-1920s. You will find around 60 reports of GIANTS being dug out of the ground!
You guys are missing out. If you have read any of these texts being spoken of here you would know they bring colour and mystery to all that appreciate deeper thoughts. if there is no seeds of truth to these stories and are completely imagined then that itself is miraculous.
It's not called The Living Word for nothing. Jesus is the Word and is with God. These lesser gods were on earth at one point. My Lord Jesus died for us all because of the lesser gods. You must know these early texts aren't living. The Bible, once you really want to learn, it will change you only if you believe what you have read.
Thats your oppinion,thats ok.I believe the amcient texts(70% may be truth and also makes sense)Even the Book of Enoch is a good book that reveals how mankind mixed with the Watchers and they gave birth to Nephilims(you can read about them in all ancient texts)
Proverbs 19:5
A false witness will not go unpunished,
and one who breathes out lies will not
escape.
Is that a threat? 😂
Intellect is what you got ,over flow the cup of intelligence! Thank you for the generosity!
So much work went into this video - very impressive and such an important topic! Well done!
There was a priestly order Melchizedek belonged to that predates sumerian mythology. This priestly order is what kept the record of the genesis account, whom the sumerians had their version of.
Who is Melchizedek
He released a video on Melchizedek 2 weeks ago. In case you are curious.
Bro lemme copy your homework. OK but you gotta change it up a little
A little??? Try 98% of it. Maybe you should read the Bible first.
Interesting & eye opening ...my fave bit was the recounting of Gilgamesh tying rocks to his feet so he could sink down & find the plant only for a snake to suddenly appear and embody the renewing properties of the plant itself!
Or indeed, the theme of the burden of work ...which offers us understanding about the politics or hierarchies of the earliest writers.
This was such a great video! I was so sleepy and I wanted to go to sleep and then I put this video on woke me right up and I very much enjoyed watching it! It definitely resonated with me. What a great job you did!😊😊😊
Am starting to believe there isn't just one God who created everything. There are many other gods who aided in the creation of the universe. We Christians probably want to call these other gods as fallen angels, but i don't think so, i believe that the God of the Bible is more like a ruler or king or prime minister of an entire race of gods. Even the word Elohim is plural and it actually means "powerful or shining ones".
Plural, 3 in one. The Father, The Son ,The Holy Spirit.
Yes... There are more...and more than three.
Read Exodus, after reading Genesis.
See if you notice anything that surprises you. I suggest starting with The Creation, and stop once you finish Lot where two Angels 'visit': him.
Write what you see, as far as aha moments
You don't have to write everything. Just the names, and differences.
I would be interested in seeing those,and what you think.
GOD Bless 🌹
@@martoniozsa Nah.. It was Anu and his children
. Anu did not even claim to be God even he was too powerful.
😑🤦
You’re not paying attention
The linguistics borrowing makes sense, since Abraham is the cognate of the Sumerian Aba-Ramu.
I've seen so many linguistic connections in the entire narrative of the "biblical" cosmogony. Critical thinking and research are two wonderful tools. It's clear there was a lot of plagiarism involved in the creation of the YHWHist theology.
"It's clear there was a lot of plagiarism involved in the creation of the YHWHist theology"
To be fair, when you look at a map of the Akkadian empire at its peak you will find that the area in which the Canaanites/Phoenicians developed was once part of their dominion.
Ergo there is a considerable possibility that Akkadian dominion left a permanent mark in both culture and language.
Akkadians were also a semitic language speaking people.
The devil is a lier since the beginning.
Indeed he still is Daniel
I pray that you know the TRUTH OF THE HEAVENLY FATHER AND THE SON
2 Corinthians 4:4 (KJV) In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
I love the side-by-side comparison in texts to be able to see the clear literal adaptations for one agenda or the other of the era.
Thank you
I appreciate the effort you made to find this information and put it together.
The original version said Elohim meaning plural not singular. This where the confusion started. I’m not confused but the being that wrote this Bible was intentionally trying to mislead the reader.
I recently started getting familiar with the Elish, with Billy Carson. But he seems stuck there. I love this channel,because there is always further to go, and I am lover of learning more. Thank you for taking us there ..
No , he talk s about many different ancient writings not only the enuma Elish ( the seven tablets of creation)
I’ve recently discovered that the Hebrew’s weren’t monotheistic, but rather henotheistic, meaning choosing one from multiple. Thoughts?
God revealed Himself to Abram and led him to a land he did not know. God made promises to him that he would be the father of nations. It is impossible to please God without faith.
Yes. That's why you see Israelites constantly going back to worshipping other gods. They were formerly pagans. That's why when Abraham was asked to sacrifice his son, he didn't bat an eye because human sacrifice was a thing. God also hadnt revealed his name that much. He was the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob because it helped distinguished Him from other gods. When Israelites went to war, they believed there was a supernatural war between their God and their enemy's. They definitely believed in more than one divine/supernatural being.
@@chuy8hansolo correct.
Derek, your channel is a real inspiration. Together with all the scholars you invite, you equip us. Thank you.
I appreciate that!
@MythVisionPodcast I only stumbled across your channel today, Derek, and I'm blown away. I've binged like an addict, this is my jam. Your production is incredible.
@@MythVisionPodcastThe Vatican knows the truth, they have it buried in their vaults. We won't see it, unless maybe we Astral project there? 😂😏
@annemariededekind6271. Yeah, he "equips" you alright, to be deceived by half-truths and outright lies and speculative claims pretending to be objective "scholarship."
It inspires you? To do what, beside follow him to the slaughter? We're coming into the last days, and have been warned as so not to be deceived.
So glad (and blessed) that your channel found me today. Subscribed 👍
I like the intro music -> going into the main introduction.. I already could tell this is gonna be a great story to tell 😳
It's fun to imagine all this is just Marduk gaming. And eventually he got really into it and became the god of Abraham.
To me viewing the book of Genesis from a more secular perspective now, viewing it in it`s full cultural/historical contexts I have even more respect for it. Thank you for this Derek very interesting stuff!
Thanks my friend! I always enjoy this material as well.
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Exactly .... you admire it more when you read it from a secular context (or within the relation of our common history that started in Eden - Mesopotamia)
Some need a secret before you can experience Jesus healing energy. The Illuminati aka fallen angels aliens NASA what ever you want to call them in there flying tin cans. Can't get out of lower orbit because of the vacuum. Universe is only 77 thousand SQ miles big breathable air through out space angels have to breath. Mars is only 250 miles away sun an moon are much closer an only a acre big. Heaven is on Mars moon that's what all the thrusters are for space x Star ship try to punch through the vacuum and destroy Mars moon heaven. I cleaned out hell left the light's on. I ripped the soul out the devil after he went dragon just to make it a fair fight. Now u can experience Jesus healing energy all old aches and pains will be washed away takes 30 minutes relax and shut yr eyes. Warning it is intense
@@mkadi70 Mesopotamia is not Eden.
The concept of Eden exists also in Mesopotamian myth by another name and description - but the basic tenet of the concept is much the same.
Excited 4this one. Luv how genesis is saturated w/ the supernatural
Hi! I really like your videos. Thanks a lot! 😊
This video is absolutely phenomenal, as is this channel! Between Mythvision Podcasts, Gnostic Informant and Atum these three channels are the power houses of RUclips when it comes to truly enlightening people of the orgins of the myths we are still living with even in these modern days.
Thank you for all that you do!
Thank you
Have you ever considered the possibility all myth's come from the study of myself as a God Created by The One God of Design. Spell the word Mythology and add a E and you get MY- THEOLOGY Meaning the Study of My Self as A God Created in the Thought's and Imagination of the Universal Cosmic God. Could the Mystery of all Religious Books Be in Reality MY- STORY, MY MISSED STORY of Who and What I am; a created Son or Daughter of the Most High GOD. All of the ancient master sages of Old have said if you Desire to Know God your Creator you must First Know Your Self as to How you are Fearfully and Wonderfully Made. Every Bible Story can be explained and understood by Studying the Human Anatomy and Physiology function of the Human Brain and Nerve System. All Religious Books are about the Regeneration and Resurrection of Human Consciousness that brings a person's lower Being into a Glorified Oneness with the Supreme Spirit Mind of the Universe. Even the Bible tell us we are God's Created by THE SINGLE SUPREME Creator of ALL things. Psalms 82: 6-8 and John 10: 34-36 Just something to consider and Meditate about.
@@MythVisionPodcast Gnostics? Why don`t you label your channel as such?
Okay yes but these Chanels only looking at one corner of the statue and ignore the other parts of the whole truth, in order to see the real full truth about life.
I said in a comment here they also need to look at Earth itself from practical self done tasting, as many have found out, that pretty glowing globe held by a hand is not how the is, and it's sad intelligent people like these channels mentioned completely conclude the Earth and its shape plus what is above is what mainstream says.
But I tell you, as mainstream religion lied to us all about God and creation etc, so likewise mainstream science lied big time about Earth and space.
Tell thus guys to but a telescope or hig powered zoom camera like Nikon P 1000 and look for yourself to see the the si called planets above, dig deep into what the hard-core Flat earthers are saying,
Then go use a laser to look for curve or lack thereof, see if the Earth curve after 20 miles or less with prevent Lazer light from been seen at the other side, see for yourselves.
Why only books someone else wrote, f, all those books, about some God's who can jerk off to create live, but can be killed in the their sleep.
I am a truth seeker, look at Masaru Emoto's discovery, study miracles and real healings and what makes them, then mix it all up and its will easy to find the actual truth.
Everything mainstream is with an agenda and mostly lies, or mixture of truth and lies, but they are not for making any life better.
I seek truth that can be applicable to better my life, but these Chanels is just, without real useful purpose, other than surprise factor and of course entertaining, can't cure even a migrane or prevent evil.
So what are doing?
I agreed 💯. Love all 3 channels myself❤
Something I read by Desmond Tutu talks about other origin myths having corpses or coming after great battles between the gods, yet the Genesis account is packed with GOODNESS. Light, day and night, and it was good. The firmament of the heavens, and the lights to mark the seasons, and it was good. Dry land and sea, and it was good. The plants and vegetation of the ground, another day, and it was good. The birds and creatures of the sky, and it was good. All the beasts of earth, and human beings…and it was good.
Other origin stories have humanity springing from the blood of the dying god, or in one that I read, humans were parasites that fell off the body of a defeated goddess.
Genesis is unique (says Tutu) for the goodness in the story. It keeps me interested, hoping to find a way of thinking about the Bible.
Garden translates to cage. The garden of Eden was a big cage. We were locked in it. Genetic experiments were done. We were created to be slaves. How is any of this good and happy? Take the blinders off.
same in Upanishads, so we are reading from a Post-apocalyptic Genesis a RESET Genesis a re-boot Genesis where the "New Order (world) was created from the ashes of the old.
And who knows maybe the 456,895,378 times before that, that the cycle actually happened. Never mind the time before the Moon arrived which Mr. Des-mond Tutu would also be aware of, the lovely and wonderful person that he most definitely was.
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After he created human beings God saw they were “VERY” good.
Thank you for the content. This is very interesting/ informative. I look forward to seeing more.
Incredibly well done. The Old Testament incorporates many old stories from a vast array of sources. Many can be linked back to Mesopotamia, Sumeria, and Greek Mythology contributed in a BIG way.
Those accounts were often from even older accounts and cultures.
There Is One Thing To Bear In Mind::: The farther back you go, the closer to the truth you get.
From that day to this thousands of years have intercepted the stories and added or subtracted vital content because it did not fit the current thinking of the time so it was left out or altered and we are none the wiser because of it and we still do it. It's best we listen to the oldest stories to find our way back to the truth while we can.
Don't be so quick to pass off Greek Mythology as fantasy. It is incredibly factual and only seems like fantasy because we've distorted the truth to shy away from anything we do not understand or that frightens us.
pft. half man half gods.
The abrahamic god has no shape, nor can be compared to anything.
These accusations of plagiarism, are not true. What makes you think these oldest Sumerian and whatever you call them are not taken from earlier sources we have no way to discover? Its all bunch of assumption.
Nothing in the bible is identical to greek, Egyptian and polytheistic beliefs..
We believe god revealed guidance through all ages and people corrupted it while part of it remained.. Its 1 thing to write something with ur own hand and invent it and put it in the bible and say its from god, its another thing to remember a verse passed down to you all the way from an actual messenger, or someone who had true authority and had revelation.
That's the reason why you wont' see me claim the bible is the word of god fully.
Polytheism and paganism human animal gods are just corruption of the truth, they are the real inventions who copied from monotheism. This guy in the video started telling a story I am sorry but that story not even identical. God created gods and they had mothers and blabla.. its all bunch of nonsense and all the claims or even the title of this video is nothing but speculation.
😊 it is time for The Creator to come back and speak for it's self... It makes no sense to let your creations get further and further away from you only because they are seeking the truth with what they perceive as evidence...lol
Religion is astrology/astronomy. You have zero respectable input if your statement doesn't open with that fact.
Yep CONCUR, welcome to world #583, of course, no one has considered that ANY of these stories.fables/scripts could be off-planet in origin, And we may be indeed from another planet...for sure we were always here destroying this Earth we "love" so much because we are born from it.....NOT. If Greek Myths are your thang, then everything is possible...and still happening in other dimensions.
On a smaller.scale, we had family stories passed down from 3-400 years ago. As i was doing geneology research, some of these fantasies turned out to be based on fact.
The only thing holding some things back is the lack of access to archives.
I no longer laugh about the scientologists putting all the writings in a bunker etched in stainless steel plates and nickel-plated records encapsules by titanium capsules. That is more likely to survive with the carved stones where all the computers app and books have long been destroyed.
THIS is argaubly the best one!
I don't know if it's easier for you, but this stuff is way more digestible when it's just a conversation between two people. I don't feel like getting all the AI generated images and Getty clips is worth the effort. Not sure about others but I want to hear a natural conversation, not an ancient aliens style documentary with AI art. But I'm sure this stuff gets way more clicks.
Either way keep on keeping on.
Conversations go all over the place and are harder to follow because they don't stick to any particular topic.
I enjoy both. To me, the interviews are more helpful in introducing and explaining the material, so I like to watch them first. However, these videos bring all the information together and helps in digesting all the information from the videos into a meaningful narrative. I’m a visual learner and hardly ever forget something I have read, but I need this reinforcement with auditory learning.
I see both styles being an excellent way of conveying the material.
This way is definitely far more influential, reaching a much larger audience.
There's a reason Ancient Aliens is so popular, and it's not just the nonsense they spout. It's the documentary style footage. I plan on imitating that style with real scholarship of course.
@@MythVisionPodcast I think you should write a book about your experiences prior to, and after, the creation of this channel. You have an inspiring story, Derek! As a mother with a child in active addiction, you have given me hope. Thank you! ❤️
@@joykelley8671 I plan on writing a book at some point for sure. Thank you for your continued support of my journey.
Thank you for this compilation it was so enlightening!
My fascination is to dive deeper into the realm of our life's existence.
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The Enuma Elish was much later and re-wrote Sumerian mythology to benefit Marduk, the god of Babylon that was then the capital of the Empire. The original myth can be found in the Sumerian Atrahasis epic. Putting too much importance on the Enuma Elish is misleading. We should use the Atrahasis epic instead, which in fact explains much better how the book of Genesis came into being. (Enlil (the air) separating Anu (the sky) from Ki (the Earth), just like described in genesis. It's pretty much what science confirms, the atmosphere (Enlil) separates space (Anu) from the surface of our planet (Ki). It's all actually quite trivial, but got overinterpreted too much).
Genesis1:1 is simply the headline of the following paragraph. It means that the following verses will describe how the gods (elohim is plural) created the world, as it is now.
You're so good at presenting scholarly information in a way that dummies can understand. You're an excellent communicator.
The very reason there is so much Evil in the World , explains there is something pioneering this …
where is the information in the description about the other video. didn't see it anywhere
I am also quite amazed at the poeticism of early mankind. Once they learned how to write, they created some truly poetic works. These stories, though mythical, are quite compelling. I mean…just….wow.
I'd argue that there were probably poets already once spoken language was refined enough for people to express themselves artistically.
Written language just gave us the ability to know about it thousands of years later.
You know they're mythical how?
That’s because they are not early…they are ancient & matured beyond imagination.
These are not myths. These are real.flesh send blood brings with technologies we can't fathom. You'll see
Early mankind? Mythical? How would you know this?
“The song of the ho. The farming tool to be clear.” 🤣🤣
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It's been suggested that early humans were telepathic and that the Gods could hear their thoughts and chatter which grew too noisy. This would mean that the humans who were spared lacked this capability and needed to use their vocal cords to communicate.
Did those who originally wrote or copied these words even imagine that over thousands of years there will be thousands upon thousands of people who will dedicate their lives to understanding, interpreting, and debating them?
I enjoy how you keep digging. Your ‘lernen’ apatite for knowing and the work you put in shows
Thank you so much!
@@MythVisionPodcast and suddenly youtube gives me creation myths😀 sometimes the algorithm works. ruclips.net/video/LZNVfYwVu3M/видео.html
Hahaha. Yes, his work surely does show. He did none. No work. And it shows.
@@and4all706 so you know all the ancient myths and their relationships without putting in any work? I feel humbled and blessed , maybe you could teach me something
Very convincing presentation. It was very well put together. I look forward to the next.
What an intro, I literally had goosebumps the first thirty seconds into this. WOW.
THANK YOU FOR THE CONTENT AND Your Love Of Mankind
Thank you for your hard work!
This is great content, Derek. Well done
Thank you
Jaweh was a Primarch battling chaos. Doing his best in 40k then got sucked into the warp and went back in time. Clearly.
Thank you, for this wonderful lessons.
Wonderful work yet again! I’m enjoying this series as much as I do your interviews with scholars. Bring on more series and videos of ancient Mesopotamia. Great stuff! ❤️
More to come!
Brilliant, thank you for this, it's very insightful and thought provoking.
Thanks my friend!
Let me just say that as I've delved into the Bible as literature it is mystifying that people don't know this. This is amazing acholarship and presentation. You are doing excellent work!
Thank you so much for sharing all of this with us!
Not to detract from the excellent research and hard work that went into the production of this video, my favorite part is when you said "the farming instrument, to be clear." 🤣
Absolutely Superb! We all have been thirsty for these studies for a long, long time, at least I have. After your Ancient Mesopotamia Series, I’ll be looking forward to your next series on what came before that time period!
40:34 I recommend you getting the book called “Adam, Eve and The Devil: A New Beginning”. It appears as though that we have a earlier version of the story before the Genesis one where El and Asherah lived in a garden and the sinner in the garden wasn’t Adam and Eve but Horon and formed the Tree of Life to the Tree of Death. Adam was sent down to restore life on Earth but failed because Horon in a form of a snake bit him.
Huh! Wow! I'm gonna have to check it out. Sounds like a more interesting version than the version we're familiar with. ...;-)
This is Islamic perspective on origin of jinn and angels
Y'all funny. There is the only one true book it's called the bible. GOD created everything. Man didn't.
@@manuelshaul9244 Im sure you dont even know the name of the man who put that bible together
May I ask who wrote this “one true” book?
I absolutely love your videos Derek , im on a path to find the truth of our bible, and how all the creation stories come into play, we have been lied to so much..many of us are seeking the truth if their is a truth to be found. Your videos are in a class all of their own. Thank u Derick! ❤️🙏🏻
Study the life using science by urself and u will know the work of God. Please Study how the cell organelles work with it's codes. If you say that DNA or the language of life is evolved by random collusion of molecules then I am sorry on your wisdom
LOL you have NO idea how much this guy in the video is LYING TO YOU ! he knows how to falsify and deceive the unsuspecting.
@@zachariahgeorge5435of ido study it on my own and I believe in God, & Jesus.. I don't agree with everything Myth Vision ppl it's out, I believe he does not believe in God .. I do, but he does find a lot of truth, and that what I was speaking on..
Yes, I have done the same thing . God finally gave me the answers I've been searching for through what I can only describe as a SPIRITUAL AWAKENING . I now have peace and not a fearfu bone I my body. I understand this world and life like I never have ever before. Search and you shall find. He has given us all and wayyy more then they have duped us into believing. Scriptures aren't translated for ther true meaning. The Bible is only a stepping stone and it will take other ancient texts and bks of the Bible left out to get all your ANSWERS. God bless you on your journey ❤❤❤❤remember to keep an open mind. TRUTH REALLY IS STRANGER THAN FICTION!
@@theCosmicQueencan u enlightened me about what he's lying about please? Ty
The battle between Marduk and Tiamat is a description of two planets named after their owners locked in a gravitational battle that would result in the creation of Earth from what was left of Tiamat in the story of how the day was separated from the night by the Oort cloud, which is beyond the Kuiper belt, which is beyond the comet belt, which is beyond the asteroid belt, each of which were said to be formed from the remains of Tiamat''s encounter with the newly arrived Dark Star, Nemesis, and it's displaced solar system arriving hear after being flung out of somewhere in Orion's belt from what I have read
The Earth is Flat.
@@magacop5180 yes. Plane-ets flat planes in the hologram
@@chuckdimuro4561 So its reaaly all about the stars yes? astrotheology? its only logical explanation
@@flpoetxl1541 what it's "really all about" is it is verboten.
Sometimes the Ancients are describing Nibiru's sun, Nemesis, it's planets and its moons, settling into orbit around our sun, causing collisions. Sometimes the stories are about the people who own those pieces of real estate literally battling each other. The plane-ets and their owners share the same name so it gets very confusing
@dereklambert, your Origin series is a masterpiece, Sir! I never used to take you seriously when you were pushing mythicism, I'm now admirative at your balanced and thoughtful delivery! You put out nuanced, well researched content with great production values (music is also fab!).
Bonus - your making Dr Josh read the Song of the Ho(e?). I nearly wet myself 🤣
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Increible, me ha encantado. entiendo algunas palabras en ingles, pero con el traductor al español genial. Muchas gracias.
Great information ℹ️
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The Bible doesn’t need to give credit to any ancient writings. What most people totally miss out on is oral tradition. There have been people who were able to remember the whole entire Bible; this explains the ability to pass on history orally, tit for tat, even before the invention of written communication.
Notice how all the older stories feature several deities?
I love the Enuma Elish! AWESOME content Derek! Very informative and insightful. Beautiful visuals! Thanks for all your hard work brother! 👍👍👍👍
I love this stuff... can't get enough intellectual knowledge!
Thanks so much!
Enema means, in the beginning
I just realized that Gen 1 says God created some things after THEIR kind and some after HIS kind...very interesting 🤔. I guess it was a re creation after an apocalypse and some genetics were preserved.
Really what chapter and verse? What version of the text?
Read the lost book of Enki
@KOS_YoungSe7en that's not scripture... or even biblical. The book of Enki is not the apocrypha either.
@@jacebakerjace what is apocrypha*, excuse the spelling please.
Some of the lost books of the Bible that was removed by the Vatican.
Love ancient history/myths and videos. Your work is amazing.
Absolutely mind blowing! Thanks and regards
This is pretty awesome! Well done!❤
Glad you like it!
Abraham and Sarah were Sumerian. Their father, Terah, was a high priest in the temple of Nanna, the Sumerian moon god.
And remember Lot from Sodom and Gomorrah was Abraham's cousin.
@@marciasyme4586 Sarah's ancestry through her mother is directly linked to Cain. The Cainites and Sethians intermarried. Terah was a Sethian. Sarah was most likely a devotee of Inanna/Ishtar, which was why the Pharoah was so taken with her. Inanna was known as Isis in Egypt
False. Abraham spoke Hebrew. He was Hebrew and it states that in the bible. Read
@@ChildofYAH1014 hate to disappoint you, but Abraham and Sarah are in fact, Sumerian and I am directly descended from them. They were from Ur, in Babylon. Its a fact that Babylon was Sumer before it was Babylon.
My genealogy has been traced back to Adam and Eve. I have seen it for myself.
Furthermore, Sarah's mother (different from Abraham) is directly linked to Cain. The stories in Genesis have their origins in Sumeria.
@@marciasyme4586 also, Hebrew belongs to the class of Canaanite languages. It's a language, not a race or nation. It wasn't adopted by Israel until they took possession of Canaan, long after Abraham's passing.
In 1978. I met an Alien or two. Anyways they spoke to me years later and said that we are not from Earth.and to write a book. But it had to be fiction. Because they, don't want to start any new religions. And it turned out to be true
The outline was probably established by pre-Sumerian cultures, who followed old traditions of their own. Somewhere back there is a Great Cave Bear and a sacred cavern, most likely.
Thanks for the amazing work that you do brother. Love and peace Glyn
Thank you very much!
Hey Derek! Filled my morning "coffee time" watching this. Had me at the edge of my seat! Thank you.
I am wondering about some of the illustrations, many of which are totally badass. Are they generated by AI (EG 4:08 etc)?
Thanks! Yes, I use midjourney
@@MythVisionPodcast mean you use the AI for this material ??;
And this is how it really was:
Adam said he was feeling lonely and asked God for company.
"I was thinking of making you a woman," said God.
"What is a woman?" asked Adam.
"Nearly a man, only curvier," said God, "and also sweet, caring, and loving and at your beck and call. She will be an inspiration to you."
"Gosh," said Adam, "how much will that cost?"
"An arm and leg," said God.
"What could I get for a rib?" asked Adam.
Great 😅job keep up the good work bro
Great work and awesome synthesis! I continue to love this style and enjoy every one of these videos. They are a nice counterpart to the interviews with scholars and experts.
One limitation of your content here is restricting the sources for Genesis to the Akkadian writings. Years ago, authors like Gary Greenberg were postulating Adam and Eve's story being a corruption of Egyptian myths (Geb & Nut and Osiris & Iris), and the hypothesis was that Genesis 1 was in response to Babylonian ideas while Genesis 2 was in response to Egyptian ideas. I'm not sure if this is a current or even widely held view today, but there is definitely a connection later on in Genesis with Egyptian culture and ideas.
Of course, this could all also stem from earlier cultural ideas that were simply adopted into Egypt and Babylon later on. Given that the idea of people coming from the ground or clay shows up in many cultures around the world, it might have been an ancient myth that originated as an oral tradition before it was ever written down. It might have also been an idea that was just so common in agricultural societies that it kept reoccurring independently because the height of civilization at the time was taming the ground from which life-sustaining plants would grow.
Keep up the great work! Can't wait for the next one!
This is a religious channel. Don`t let them fool you. They are just Gnostics claiming to have a hidden "Gnosis" knowledge.
@@vermilionpill6916I don't see anybody trying to fool anyone. It is what it is! Not only that...why does it matter??? Besides...What YOU PERCEIVE as religious is YOUR OWN PERCEPTION. SO.......
@@michellecardenas6072 I appreciate your perspective, and I agree that personal perceptions vary. However, what I find concerning about the video is that it seems to intentionally manipulate perceptions, aligning with the very point I was making earlier. Interestingly, thinkers like Jacques Derrida, who have influenced modern thought, drew inspiration from Gnostic thinking.
Derrida's philosophical stance, in line with certain Gnostic ideas, challenges the notion of fixed truths and distinctions. Unfortunately, this can contribute to a climate where objective truth becomes elusive. The danger lies not just in diverse perceptions but in intentional efforts to blur lines, as it can lead to a generation grappling with uncertainties about fundamental aspects of identity, such as gender. It's crucial to consider the broader implications of philosophical influences and intentional manipulation on our understanding of reality.
Exquisite, exceptional. Also brilliantly presented on all levels 🎉.
Thank you!!
Each to their own. Pisses me off when I'm told my beliefs are the wrong ones.
I think the bibble is just a collection of quotes and stories from older religions.
That's my interpretation and if folks choose to believe something else that's their right. 😊
Interesting. The torah that we have today is actually a copy written by the last prophet ezra. The orginal script was placed in the ark and no one has laid eyes on it for thousands of years that is if the ark even exists. What is very interesting is most mythologies have a similar story that beings of power that walked the earth wared against each other and were annihilated by a resulting flood
Thank you very much. I always learn a lot from your videos. You often answer questions I have long had. You raise New questions in me that I should’ve had long before. And then for the real kicker you point things out I should’ve seen long ago.
Thank you kindly
Thank you so much
You do a great job.Thanks!
Thank you for the superthanks!
*The massive hole in this theory is that there are NEARLY zero similarities. Sumarians and Israelites would not have been able to communicate with each other to share each other's origins. Also, any similarities like the flood can easily be understood as events that both civilizations knew about.*
I comment this so often but idc. I continue to learn so much from you, Derek, and all the wonderful guests you have on the pod and these documentaries. Thank you so much ❤
You don't must learn nothing!☝️ You listen all you can, all you find and make something!☝️
Great video as ever , you have opened my eyes and bright research and logic to give vioce to my inner misgivings about Christianity. I would be very interested to know if the miracles of Christ were influenced by previous narratives in older cultures such as from Mesopatania? Thanks so much for what you are doing.
No. Is humans are so evil we needed Jesus
I wondered if you found answers yet. I don't think it's from Mesopotamia, BUT from Greek Mythology. such as Jesus turning water to wine. The four horses of war, famine, lightning, and death. Hercules is similar to Simon like breaking lion's jaws. etc
41:50 ish the translation We learned in my Kabbalah decoded courses, was “….man became a speaking being.” it was different than my Oxford Bible version which also said “man became a living being.”
Genesis 1 day one is about energy, "Light" positive and negative, light and dark. You know this wasn't light in the conventional sense as the sun and moon weren't created until day 4. So there was no evening and morning as we think of them.