All the people who are getting offended for no reason: this video was NOT for you and you knew that so basically y'all just want an excuse to be mad. Get out.
Latte Knowsbest Um who said it is exclusive for white people you moron ? It has ALWAYS been multicultural And yes punk is my culture I grew up with it what the fuck are you talking about ? lol So why are you styled like my generation ?
As a white guy I respect and love Afropunk, the lineup is always great, the community is awesome, and I can't wait to go again. Fuck the racist down in the comments.
@Carson Gray yes . y'all are we don't complain about white festivals.ie polish or another thing that whites have.but the minute black people have something for us to enjoy here comes the whiny whites.
I am not black and I LOVE this! I would pay good money to attend to attend Afropunk. This is beautiful; black people celebrating their art, their culture, their fashion, their sensibilities and having such an event is really special. This video alone is inspiring and the festival does seem to be full of joy. Power to you all!
Brain scan studies during visual props of all races, genders, and ages show all people are the most afraid of the young black "man"/boy (unconscious fear chemistry at work in our brains detected)... because black represents the worst of humanity by the metrics... read "RACE, EVOLUTION AND BEHAVIOR" by Philippe Rushton
Never read so much racist fact juggling piffle in my life. Completely bonkers. "We nonblacks".... how presumptious. Evidently someone who represents nobody but his deluded self.
Nils Bruijel ... second response, thats right NONBLACKS as distinguished by race/color and DNA data... read Rushton and his 60 variables from his prime book "RACE, EVOLUTION AND BEHAVIOR", i cite a link that sums it up... u can NOT read that book and remain a nonracist or anti racist... to do so would be to lie about diversity - i represent the data and differentiation/diversity and u represent some presumptuous whippersnapper idea of impossible equality among man? how illogical and irrational... again, i suggest u google RACIAL DOT MAP and review this COOPERCENTER site and map to see how nonblacks self segregate from blacks...
this thing is called afropunk, we're here because you've decided to hijack our cultural movement, then have the nerve to pretend its the other way around you know basically what you whiners are pros at doing all the fuckin time
This is the 90's "Conscious" Movement's granchild. The clothes, the styles, the dress, the influences, It can't really be "explained" to those who are outside of it in a way they understand: You are either "of it" or not. It makes sense, or its doesn't. You are a part of it, or you're not. Its that simple. You can have your Lil Waynes, Rick Rosses and Minajes. I'll take this please
Claude Leguerre 💯💯 FACTS, it started in the 90s with people like Erica badu & Andre 3000, Q-tip etc. my generation (millennials) is just taking it to another level, back then early 90's-2007) this way of think & being free was in the minority now!!! (Specifically starting around 2008 when I began to realize a shift taking place) Afro punk mindset is the majority of millennial black culture not just in North America but global. I love it🔥🔥🤘🏿🤘🏿 it represent everything I believe in, I've been on Afro punk since I discovered it in 2006
There's many awesome Afro-Punk artists you can lookup and listen to on places like Spotify. There's even Afro-Punk playlists you can listen to on there.
I just found out about AFROPUNK and I am in love. It is perfect for me because it is a place where I can be free and express my opinions. This is definitely something I need to do before I die.
I support this, for some reason this style seem more closer to our African roots. This is not new though the motherland has been doing this for many years you can see it in a lot of our tribes that haven't lose to modern society. Black must know about themselves and this movement is one of the steps. Next learn about your history no from mainstream books or media
Racists people this is not for you so why are you here. If this is meaningless to you or if it doesn't concern you leave. No ones forcing you to listen and watch but really it's 2015 can we please stop the primitive minded thinking. I mean come on show so dignity. It's embarrassing. You people are what's wrong with the world.
+airilove17 They're obsessed with us and our culture. It's hard for them to ignore. Black people are like drawing cards and everything we do ignites conversation. Everyone wants to be around us, like us or in our damn business. It's been like this for years.
black people are not drawing cards, taboo topics are in which black people set as well women's choice ignites, asians ignite, arabs ignite... seeing your issue like that makes you a racist aswell racism isnt a product of difference is a product of stupidity and big guys controlling masses...
If you have not been, go. What are you waiting for. Literally the best experience I've had in forever, such a breath of fresh air, the music, the FOOD, the people, the VIBE!! GO!!!!
I think this pretty cool, I'm not black but can relate. The fashion industry is sterile, historical viewed for the well to do and tends to show very little diversity, in body and color. Fashion sale to envy rather than authentic. But hey never the type cares about fashion. And tends to dislike over consumption. But guess I do just that fashion industry doesn't really speak to me.
@@mxewris2355 Actually it's been around for a long time. Sadly, it's people like you that do your damnedest to shrug it off so it stays around. Since it's not happening to you it doesn't matter. Try thinking of other people for once.
It’s not a new counter culture it has been around for a very very long time. Just remained buried due to racism and all that crap. Watched an interview where a black lady who plays with a punk band stated that her musical activities were a secret to her day job employers due to the likelihood of her being fired upon them knowing.
I am Maori with blue eyes and white skin Tehei Mauriora!! Behold the sneeze of life I am loving this scene the people the sounds for sure and will come to the festival sometime Represent Afro Punk !!!!
Ey am Haitian also but all African we are just branches of a bigger source mama Africa. Being haitian and Kenyan is awesome we are a mixture of west African I'm jealous lol
I can see this being really big with this generation of youth. One its not really aggrsive as main stream and underground hip-hop. The style is all inclusive, yet it incorperated something that isn't new punk, punk rock was big in the eighties and both whites and minorities embraced the genra. How ever when hip-hop burst in there began a shift. Which totally changed the identity of youths with the introduction of gangster rap and hip hop. Beging in the mid 1980 running thru the early 2000s. Some gangster hip-hop is still prevalent but it's not as common as it birthing days. Now In africa afro punk seems to be more appropriated to style and dress than what main stream hip hop is.
NEED more afropunk Festivals in AFRICA place like KINSHASA,LAGOS,ACCRA why EUROPE HAS 2 AFROPUNK FESTIVALS ( LONDON ,PARIS) but AFRICA HAS only 1 JBURG ??
I just think that it took blacks two extra generations to wholly embrace an equivalent to "alternative music" culture, and they're doing it now because the game that Generation Y plays is identity politics (nowadays it's important to "identify yourself" in everything you see..since the narcissistic millennial ego is rather fragile and needs all the validation it can get in the form of "collective self-esteem") and Afropunk plays right into that. Think on it: from the '70s to the '90s, whether it was Jimi Hendrix, Death, Afrika Bambaataa, Defunkt, Bad Brains, Troublefunk, Living Colour, Cybotron, (which spawned techno instead), The Beatnigs or Native Tongues, the ingredients for creating a black postpunk melange were always there, but the American black community never responded: 70s funk quickly got swallowed up by disco, the 80s were mired in slick predictable R&B, the 90s plunged rap into a terrible abyss of violent stupidity from which (except for flashes like Kendrick Lamar) it has never fully recovered, and the 00s were no better, mostly about booty clappin' (UK grime never caught on here, or things might've moved forward musically a bit earlier). And let's face it: at one time there was Black Power and the creativity of groups like Chicago's AACM, but since the 70s, blacks had largely given up on DIY (with some rare exceptions in earlier days of rap) and pursued dreams of corporate/mass success: whether in music, sports or clothing, the goal was often to drip with gold chains and rarely to settle for being content in a smaller subcultural niche. In the process, they missed out on punk, modern rock, hardcore, indie rock, alternative rock, riot grrl, electronica, metal etc (this is a bit less true in the UK, where UK blacks always had an influence on club music etc) and on the various processes of DIY. What Davis says is true, though - internet and digital platforms should allow black millennials to create things as DIY as any other person their age. (One thing I'm not feeling, though, is the strident politically correct party line that apparently has to be enforced from the stage in the form of pat slogans: "no fatphobia, no ableism" etc.) Now, I've been aware of this movement for a while, and in several years it hasn't come even close to breaking overground the way "hipsters" have. But it well could, if a couple breakthrough artists penetrate the stubborn consciousness. I hope it's someone more mature and fully formed than the ultimate privileged snowflake Willow Smith, though. I'd love to see intelligent creative improvisation make a comeback as part of this movement, as well. I'd vote for the likes of Matana Roberts, FKA Twigs, and Death Grips, for example, and hope this movement doesn't die on the vine the way the Black Rock Coalition did.
+floppybollox3 On the surface, please note that you're an anonymous namecaller on the Internet. I'm neither anonymous nor a namecaller, and thus no troll. There's a history of black alternative music in the U.S. (of which Afropunk is essentially the newest development) and I know about it and have interacted quite a bit with its culture, as well as with the black avantgarde and homegrown levels of hiphop. I see by your liked videos history that you explore a mixture of what I like to call "Waxpoetical" music (i.e. the musical experience of the African diaspora in America and the UK, mainly, as documented in the annals of Waxpoetics magazine) with postpunk. That sounds a lot like some stuff I'd enjoy (I'm a big fan of Kate Bush, Human League, etc. as well) so I don't even see why you'd be attacking me at all. In fact, all I did was lay out the reasons why Afropunk needs to grow.
its worth noting that jimmi hendrix got famous by going to europe and having been a trained blues man. all of jimmi's peers we're british. jimmi worshiped bands like cream and the yard birds and more or less left the chitlin circut to go to England and join the psychedelic rock scene there. he came to prominance largely by besting eric clapton of cream in a guitar battle. the two other members of the hendrix band are from the uk. he was practically a mod at points. although it is worth noting that i have heard he was going to dedicate his next album to the black panthers before he passed away.
im white as silk but death grips has come to my attention at multiple points and is probably the best chance this has of hitting the mainstream conciousness.
How come they all dress up with all their paint, etc. like a Zulu but they’re American? It’s “cultural appropriation” when a white dude has dreads or raps or something, but these dudes can get away with doing the exact same thing?! Anyway, not at all related to punk. More like hipsters...
No, not 'American' but 'African-American'. Are you aware of the history of slavery in the US? The majority of African-Americans are originally from West Africa. It's not cultural appropriation for people to connect with their ancestral history. When White-Americans try to learn about Irish culture because they discovered their Irish lineage it's not appropriation either. The term appropriation is used when someone is taking from a culture that they have no connection with and do so without respect. That is not the case here. Unless someone is Native American, their ancestral history will be traced to outside of America.
No, American, first and foremost. Nationality is no longer based on race. I believe that thanks to American media most of the world knows of US slavery. How much do Americans, or African-Americans, know of world slavery? Just the US version? An awful lot of attention is paid to somewhere that only received 5% of the Atlantic slave trade. The worldwide attention given has nothing to do with them being African, and everything to do with being American. Where’s the protesting for those of African descent in Brazil? As you say, a majority of these people are from West Africa, so learn the cultures of Ghana or Nigeria or the Congo. That is where the chieftains gathered the slaves from, where their heritage is from. Southern Africa is as related as Egypt or Ethiopia.
True, nationality isn’t related to race but ethnicity is. I myself have Irish nationality but am still ethnically African. Tomorrow I could move to a different country and apply for residency and then change nationality but I’d still be African. Should it not be a wonderful thing for people to appreciate their nationality but also connect with their ethnic origin? It’s up to the person to decide if they want to embrace their ethnicity or not, regardless of my/your/anyone else’s opinion. Yes there is also a history of slavery in South America (and many other places outside the US). I’ve seen many workshops and festivals where Brazilian people of African descent are learning about their history and are dressing with traditional clothes and headdresses inspired by African traditions, similar to this video. There’s also a movement in Ireland of black diaspora youth reconnecting to their roots. So this reconnecting is not restricted to the US. When using the term cultural appropriation there also has to be an element of unbalanced power dynamic i.e. a dominant culture taking from a systematically oppressed culture. So to use the term in relation to this video or the above movements I mentioned is incorrect. Think of the movie Black Panther for example. The costumes were influenced by many different cultures in the continent of Africa and where worn by black people who weren’t necessarily from the specific countries. That wasn’t cultural appropriation either but rather pan-Africanism. However I must say that anybody who isn’t of African origin who is getting offended by this video shouldn’t as it isn’t for them in the first place. Anyway, I’m glad to have had this civil discussion with you. I’ve said all I can but if you’re truly interested in learning about cultural appropriation, as the example you gave of a white man wearing dreads is redundant and unrelated to what is happening in this video, there’s a myriad of books, articles and podcasts out there to learn from. Have a good day soberphobic 😁
@@stahu_mishima It's okay to not be in everything. Blacks don't have a lot of places just to feel safe and not feel like a freak or a monster. You have your own space
@@MythmasterFunky again you've got me wrong. it's not about a group-specific safe space that I wanna be included in. once again - I'm talking about being with other people and solidarity with others. + I just find it real fucking cool, why can't I enjoy a thing just because it's not including me? is not-including inherently excluding? I just feel like you're approaching what I'm saying in bad-faith, while what I'm saying is not what you might think.
I think I’m gonna get a lot of shit flung my way, but here it goes anyways, I’m a white boy, but as a civil rights aficionado I am fascinated my this Afropunk movement and I hope nobody gets pissed at me, I just wanna know, is this something white people can get involved in?
It's America dude. If it is something a certain ethnicity can't get involved in because of said ethnicity, then it shouldn't be worth your time anyways, as all that is is racism. Point is, you do you. If the whole Afropunk thing is something you want to get into, then get into it. Personally, I am looking at the lineup for the Atlanta festival in October to see if I want to go.
You have said too much already. this is like hollywood or halloween. They dress up for one or two days then go perm their hair and wear high heel the next. None of these women have ever made anything from cow milk. +nyeeezy
+Richard Swanson you don't even know them so how could you say what they are and do. If you haven't noticed becoming more in tune with your African roots is becoming more popular which is amazing. Why are you mad black people are finally accepting themselves.
David Boucard I see your point but it was/still due to ignorance you have to understand black all around the world to understand why we are so disconnected but we social media is bringing us together. At the end of the day we are African and African unity is very important for our future because we were dominated through Europe unity
I like how afro punk fashion looks as if they are telling a story with their body
All the people who are getting offended for no reason: this video was NOT for you and you knew that so basically y'all just want an excuse to be mad. Get out.
Latte Knowsbest 👏🏾👏🏾
@Latte Knowsbest Shut up stop imitating my gen's styles lol
V Gee 1) this is not instagram buddy @'s dont work here 2) what tf is a gen
V Gee lol well excuse me for not knowing your stupid words :))))) and punk is not your culture and is not exclusive for white people.
Latte Knowsbest
Um who said it is exclusive for white people you moron ? It has ALWAYS been multicultural
And yes punk is my culture I grew up with it what the fuck are you talking about ? lol
So why are you styled like my generation ?
all these people are so beautiful, it makes me want to cry.
This just makes me fall in love with our black culture even more! Our skin, hair, music, fashion, culture etc is AMAZING!!!!!🔥🔥🔥
Lilly N. mama Africa is the future things will make sense soon
Mike Raymond Africa is a fucking shithole
W e l p Dubai is in asia dumbass
@W e l p you're stupid. Dubai is in the UAE just south of Iran (gotta take a boat)
@W e l p you gotta work on your humor bro
As a white guy I respect and love Afropunk, the lineup is always great, the community is awesome, and I can't wait to go again. Fuck the racist down in the comments.
i'm white too and i'm reeeeaaaaally thinkin' about going. should i?
CancerousCereal go!
fuck you
@Carson Gray yes . y'all are we don't complain about white festivals.ie polish or another thing that whites have.but the minute black people have something for us to enjoy here comes the whiny whites.
I am not black and I LOVE this! I would pay good money to attend to attend Afropunk. This is beautiful; black people celebrating their art, their culture, their fashion, their sensibilities and having such an event is really special. This video alone is inspiring and the festival does seem to be full of joy. Power to you all!
black is beautiful
Brain scan studies during visual props of all races, genders, and ages show all people are the most afraid of the young black "man"/boy (unconscious fear chemistry at work in our brains detected)... because black represents the worst of humanity by the metrics... read "RACE, EVOLUTION AND BEHAVIOR" by Philippe Rushton
Black is beautiful arsehole
Never read so much racist fact juggling piffle in my life.
Completely bonkers. "We nonblacks".... how presumptious. Evidently someone who represents nobody but his deluded self.
Nils Bruijel Wel to be fair, your race started it all. Now we're left here stuck with repairing the damage. Hooray for White Supremacy!
Nils Bruijel ... second response, thats right NONBLACKS as distinguished by race/color and DNA data... read Rushton and his 60 variables from his prime book "RACE, EVOLUTION AND BEHAVIOR", i cite a link that sums it up... u can NOT read that book and remain a nonracist or anti racist... to do so would be to lie about diversity
- i represent the data and differentiation/diversity and u represent some presumptuous whippersnapper idea of impossible equality among man? how illogical and irrational... again, i suggest u google RACIAL DOT MAP and review this COOPERCENTER site and map to see how nonblacks self segregate from blacks...
Everything is positive but there had to be some racists to make this negative ..... Cowards
+DekkarDizzy Their racists comments is an attempt to Disguise their Self-Loathing and Jealousy.
+LEE It's jealousy for sure.
this thing is called afropunk, we're here because you've decided to hijack our cultural movement, then have the nerve to pretend its the other way around
you know basically what you whiners are pros at doing all the fuckin time
***** Sorry dude. Punk music DID NOT originate with white folks. Nice try, tho.
LEE
Ye sure, common black tactic, deny the obvious influence of whites in everything, then claim you started it.
Just beautiful. None does it like we do...
This is the 90's "Conscious" Movement's granchild. The clothes, the styles, the dress, the influences, It can't really be "explained" to those who are outside of it in a way they understand:
You are either "of it" or not.
It makes sense, or its doesn't.
You are a part of it, or you're not. Its that simple.
You can have your Lil Waynes, Rick Rosses and Minajes. I'll take this please
Amen to this
Claude Leguerre 💯💯 FACTS, it started in the 90s with people like Erica badu & Andre 3000, Q-tip etc. my generation (millennials) is just taking it to another level, back then early 90's-2007) this way of think & being free was in the minority now!!! (Specifically starting around 2008 when I began to realize a shift taking place) Afro punk mindset is the majority of millennial black culture not just in North America but global. I love it🔥🔥🤘🏿🤘🏿 it represent everything I believe in, I've been on Afro punk since I discovered it in 2006
Well, it's a couple steps above Lil Wayne and Ricky Ross, but it's still half-square. Too bourgie and too commercialized.
"My grandmother told mama its Africa at work"
We Cool Like That.
I'm goin next year for sure
+Queen_K ikr, I neeeed to go! :D
Girl I'll be there too 😊
You look like Korean gaines
do you know where they will have it in 2017
So... did u go?
I'm going. I cannot wait.
I'm black and I'm punk but where is the actual punk music, the point of it all?!?
Cosmo Young there is punk music, hence the name Afro-Punk. You'd have to go. This is just a story on it.
There's many awesome Afro-Punk artists you can lookup and listen to on places like Spotify. There's even Afro-Punk playlists you can listen to on there.
Beautiful, artistic, and shows that being black may not always be easy but it is a blessing and you should be proud of the color of your skin
I just found out about AFROPUNK and I am in love. It is perfect for me because it is a place where I can be free and express my opinions. This is definitely something I need to do before I die.
I support this, for some reason this style seem more closer to our African roots. This is not new though the motherland has been doing this for many years you can see it in a lot of our tribes that haven't lose to modern society. Black must know about themselves and this movement is one of the steps. Next learn about your history no from mainstream books or media
i freaking love it...they all look "different" yet so classy. I love the whole thing.....
Hella Black. Hella Proud!✊🏾
Lilly N. respect
Diy and uplifting black artists? Sounds amazing! Afropunk rock!
Racists people this is not for you so why are you here. If this is meaningless to you or if it doesn't concern you leave. No ones forcing you to listen and watch but really it's 2015 can we please stop the primitive minded thinking. I mean come on show so dignity. It's embarrassing. You people are what's wrong with the world.
+airilove17 They're obsessed with us and our culture. It's hard for them to ignore. Black people are like drawing cards and everything we do ignites conversation. Everyone wants to be around us, like us or in our damn business. It's been like this for years.
LOL ITS {CURRENT YEAR}!!!
black people are not drawing cards, taboo topics are in which black people set as well
women's choice ignites, asians ignite, arabs ignite... seeing your issue like that makes you a racist aswell
racism isnt a product of difference
is a product of stupidity and big guys controlling masses...
...You really like to think you've just contributed something to a 1 year- old conversation? huh?
oh lele
Black is beautiful, white is beautiful, brown is beautiful, every color is beautiful
Yes black people are beautiful thanks
Random Black Chick Every color is beautiful?
Your all lives matter argument is quite annoying and is nothing but a attempt to take away shine from blacks.
Omg this is alive,genuine loving the scenery it reaps greatness toward loving all humans.I bet the energy is awesome.
If you have not been, go.
What are you waiting for. Literally the best experience I've had in forever, such a breath of fresh air, the music, the FOOD, the people, the VIBE!! GO!!!!
This is so cool!! It's got such positive vibes around it and black people definitely deserve this positive scenario
Thank you ! You know anyone is welcome!
It wasn’t new… we’ve always been around… just underground
Beautiful and authentic. Love it!
I think this pretty cool, I'm not black but can relate. The fashion industry is sterile, historical viewed for the well to do and tends to show very little diversity, in body and color. Fashion sale to envy rather than authentic. But hey never the type cares about fashion. And tends to dislike over consumption.
But guess I do just that fashion industry doesn't really speak to me.
Need to gooooo, ASAP!!!! :'-) ♡♥
I don't see why people have a problem with this.
this made me happy
Afro punk is like Coachella just for black "cultured "people
Vanessa Coachella is also white people stealing and culture appropriating POC culture 🤷🏽♀️
AlienVIBE The concept of „Cultural appropriation“ is such an ignorant modern invention.
@@mxewris2355 Actually it's been around for a long time. Sadly, it's people like you that do your damnedest to shrug it off so it stays around. Since it's not happening to you it doesn't matter. Try thinking of other people for once.
Jesus I love being black 😭🥰
It’s not a new counter culture it has been around for a very very long time. Just remained buried due to racism and all that crap. Watched an interview where a black lady who plays with a punk band stated that her musical activities were a secret to her day job employers due to the likelihood of her being fired upon them knowing.
why wasn't i there!
The Klan ain't gone be happy bout this'n
Ight then homie
@@feelteamsix3911 that's okay, we'll have AK-47s ready
This Means So Much To Me I Can't Even Say!
Does my man at 1:00 have a CROWN? Somebody tell me where I can cop one.
You have to know this video was used for my French exam (e3c) and that was pretty interesting
Yes guy...
Can you resume this video, i'm not really good in english lmao
@@ryn0491 Aren't you English ?
@@mirego4378 non 😂
The imagery is stunning
Beautiful !! Representing Africa (I am Kenyan) and the Caribbean (I am also Haitian)
I am Maori with blue eyes and white skin Tehei Mauriora!! Behold the sneeze of life I am loving this scene the people the sounds for sure and will come to the festival sometime Represent Afro Punk !!!!
Ey am Haitian also but all African we are just branches of a bigger source mama Africa. Being haitian and Kenyan is awesome we are a mixture of west African I'm jealous lol
Matthew spoke to Newsbeat about how some venues' reluctance to support black female artists was one of the driving forces behind the festival
Still I believe it's about message, not about fashion and how I'm gonna present myself on media... 2 old school of mine...
The dopest shit I have ever seen I'm going in 2018.
CANT WAIT!!!! ONLY A FEW DAYS!!!!!
i'd love to go to this!! hope there will be one in oakland or SF
This looks so cool I wanna go sometime !
I'm going to this this year!
maaan I wanna go there😭
🖤💣AFROPUNK IS LIIFFEE💣🖤
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A lot of mad white people in the comments.
I can see this being really big with this generation of youth. One its not really aggrsive as main stream and underground hip-hop. The style is all inclusive, yet it incorperated something that isn't new punk, punk rock was big in the eighties and both whites and minorities embraced the genra. How ever when hip-hop burst in there began a shift. Which totally changed the identity of youths with the introduction of gangster rap and hip hop. Beging in the mid 1980 running thru the early 2000s. Some gangster hip-hop is still prevalent but it's not as common as it birthing days. Now In africa afro punk seems to be more appropriated to style and dress than what main stream hip hop is.
I absolutely LOVE it.
Amazing and wonderful
i discovered this festival through the dirtbombs!
Woohoo Afro Punk is life
Que in the negative people commenting. I could probably categorize them into one group hmm
you racist.
Hi I am assianat of this page @marketmelanin and I want,s to know what is the name and social media account of the woman in the video?
I want to go look better than coachella
I want to go!!!!
Are there a lot of vegans/vegetarians and animal lovers in the Afro punk community?
NEED more afropunk Festivals in AFRICA place like KINSHASA,LAGOS,ACCRA why EUROPE HAS 2 AFROPUNK FESTIVALS ( LONDON ,PARIS) but AFRICA HAS only 1 JBURG ??
Awesome
I thought it was a combination of music genres ? as In the videos content, would be more detailed. But its great short doc
Vive les e3c 😭
I just think that it took blacks two extra generations to wholly embrace an equivalent to "alternative music" culture, and they're doing it now because the game that Generation Y plays is identity politics (nowadays it's important to "identify yourself" in everything you see..since the narcissistic millennial ego is rather fragile and needs all the validation it can get in the form of "collective self-esteem") and Afropunk plays right into that.
Think on it: from the '70s to the '90s, whether it was Jimi Hendrix, Death, Afrika Bambaataa, Defunkt, Bad Brains, Troublefunk, Living Colour, Cybotron, (which spawned techno instead), The Beatnigs or Native Tongues, the ingredients for creating a black postpunk melange were always there, but the American black community never responded: 70s funk quickly got swallowed up by disco, the 80s were mired in slick predictable R&B, the 90s plunged rap into a terrible abyss of violent stupidity from which (except for flashes like Kendrick Lamar) it has never fully recovered, and the 00s were no better, mostly about booty clappin' (UK grime never caught on here, or things might've moved forward musically a bit earlier).
And let's face it: at one time there was Black Power and the creativity of groups like Chicago's AACM, but since the 70s, blacks had largely given up on DIY (with some rare exceptions in earlier days of rap) and pursued dreams of corporate/mass success: whether in music, sports or clothing, the goal was often to drip with gold chains and rarely to settle for being content in a smaller subcultural niche. In the process, they missed out on punk, modern rock, hardcore, indie rock, alternative rock, riot grrl, electronica, metal etc (this is a bit less true in the UK, where UK blacks always had an influence on club music etc) and on the various processes of DIY. What Davis says is true, though - internet and digital platforms should allow black millennials to create things as DIY as any other person their age. (One thing I'm not feeling, though, is the strident politically correct party line that apparently has to be enforced from the stage in the form of pat slogans: "no fatphobia, no ableism" etc.)
Now, I've been aware of this movement for a while, and in several years it hasn't come even close to breaking overground the way "hipsters" have. But it well could, if a couple breakthrough artists penetrate the stubborn consciousness. I hope it's someone more mature and fully formed than the ultimate privileged snowflake Willow Smith, though. I'd love to see intelligent creative improvisation make a comeback as part of this movement, as well. I'd vote for the likes of Matana Roberts, FKA Twigs, and Death Grips, for example, and hope this movement doesn't die on the vine the way the Black Rock Coalition did.
+Manny Theiner amazing post
+Manny Theiner Who cares what you think you're only a troll anyway.
+floppybollox3 On the surface, please note that you're an anonymous namecaller on the Internet. I'm neither anonymous nor a namecaller, and thus no troll. There's a history of black alternative music in the U.S. (of which Afropunk is essentially the newest development) and I know about it and have interacted quite a bit with its culture, as well as with the black avantgarde and homegrown levels of hiphop. I see by your liked videos history that you explore a mixture of what I like to call "Waxpoetical" music (i.e. the musical experience of the African diaspora in America and the UK, mainly, as documented in the annals of Waxpoetics magazine) with postpunk. That sounds a lot like some stuff I'd enjoy (I'm a big fan of Kate Bush, Human League, etc. as well) so I don't even see why you'd be attacking me at all. In fact, all I did was lay out the reasons why Afropunk needs to grow.
its worth noting that jimmi hendrix got famous by going to europe and having been a trained blues man. all of jimmi's peers we're british.
jimmi worshiped bands like cream and the yard birds and more or less left the chitlin circut to go to England and join the psychedelic rock scene there. he came to prominance largely by besting eric clapton of cream in a guitar battle. the two other members of the hendrix band are from the uk. he was practically a mod at points. although it is worth noting that i have heard he was going to dedicate his next album to the black panthers before he passed away.
im white as silk but death grips has come to my attention at multiple points and is probably the best chance this has of hitting the mainstream conciousness.
For a second I thought that was Taren Guy @4:04 😊
мне очень интересно это направление музыки
I live for this
I wish this was in my city 💔
The new counter culture 🤔 More like the foundation of punk.
Here from Rico Nasty
What happened exactly?
E3C on est là 🤣
new to you?
3:42 drooling
SOLD OUT TO HIP HOP CULTURE, this was for punks now it's that
How cool
They fucking playing death grips and scarlrxd this year. Shit I'm black but I'm going with a group of my white homies.
can you come to Sydney ? lol
So Gorgeous!!!!
come to europe plse :)
In a couple of years or will be called Urban because the power that be see it as to black..
No crack,no crime, no gangs,that's not black
Why do they always try to label and separate everything. Punk is punk. It’s colorless.
where are the strong black folk?? pretty sure afro-punk aint just for punks with afros and african punks
Are you really black because what Black person would ask that question it's so weird.
What do you have against Punk? Harden up.
Ah, so you're a homophopbe? Yeah, we don't want scumbags like you here. Fuck off, you're not welcome at these concerts.
Dude, you're literally insulting people for the horrific crime of being Queer, I somehow don't think I'm the close-minded one here.
> Calling me sensitive
> Getting angry at people for being Queer on the internet
You can change the skin color of the model modeling a product but it's still same corporation behind the scenes getting all the money!
How come they all dress up with all their paint, etc. like a Zulu but they’re American?
It’s “cultural appropriation” when a white dude has dreads or raps or something, but these dudes can get away with doing the exact same thing?!
Anyway, not at all related to punk. More like hipsters...
No, not 'American' but 'African-American'. Are you aware of the history of slavery in the US? The majority of African-Americans are originally from West Africa. It's not cultural appropriation for people to connect with their ancestral history. When White-Americans try to learn about Irish culture because they discovered their Irish lineage it's not appropriation either. The term appropriation is used when someone is taking from a culture that they have no connection with and do so without respect. That is not the case here.
Unless someone is Native American, their ancestral history will be traced to outside of America.
No, American, first and foremost. Nationality is no longer based on race.
I believe that thanks to American media most of the world knows of US slavery. How much do Americans, or African-Americans, know of world slavery? Just the US version? An awful lot of attention is paid to somewhere that only received 5% of the Atlantic slave trade. The worldwide attention given has nothing to do with them being African, and everything to do with being American. Where’s the protesting for those of African descent in Brazil?
As you say, a majority of these people are from West Africa, so learn the cultures of Ghana or Nigeria or the Congo. That is where the chieftains gathered the slaves from, where their heritage is from.
Southern Africa is as related as Egypt or Ethiopia.
True, nationality isn’t related to race but ethnicity is. I myself have Irish nationality but am still ethnically African. Tomorrow I could move to a different country and apply for residency and then change nationality but I’d still be African. Should it not be a wonderful thing for people to appreciate their nationality but also connect with their ethnic origin? It’s up to the person to decide if they want to embrace their ethnicity or not, regardless of my/your/anyone else’s opinion.
Yes there is also a history of slavery in South America (and many other places outside the US). I’ve seen many workshops and festivals where Brazilian people of African descent are learning about their history and are dressing with traditional clothes and headdresses inspired by African traditions, similar to this video. There’s also a movement in Ireland of black diaspora youth reconnecting to their roots. So this reconnecting is not restricted to the US.
When using the term cultural appropriation there also has to be an element of unbalanced power dynamic i.e. a dominant culture taking from a systematically oppressed culture. So to use the term in relation to this video or the above movements I mentioned is incorrect. Think of the movie Black Panther for example. The costumes were influenced by many different cultures in the continent of Africa and where worn by black people who weren’t necessarily from the specific countries. That wasn’t cultural appropriation either but rather pan-Africanism.
However I must say that anybody who isn’t of African origin who is getting offended by this video shouldn’t as it isn’t for them in the first place. Anyway, I’m glad to have had this civil discussion with you. I’ve said all I can but if you’re truly interested in learning about cultural appropriation, as the example you gave of a white man wearing dreads is redundant and unrelated to what is happening in this video, there’s a myriad of books, articles and podcasts out there to learn from.
Have a good day soberphobic 😁
bowl movement
I'm a white enby from Poland but damn, I totally feel like this is the exact place I would fit in and just be myself freely
It's not for you, go to a regular punk festival. You don't always have to be included in everything
@@MythmasterFunky I'm not. It's not about me being included, it's about solidarity with others.
You've got me wrong, I guess
@@stahu_mishima It's okay to not be in everything. Blacks don't have a lot of places just to feel safe and not feel like a freak or a monster. You have your own space
@@MythmasterFunky again you've got me wrong. it's not about a group-specific safe space that I wanna be included in.
once again - I'm talking about being with other people and solidarity with others.
+ I just find it real fucking cool, why can't I enjoy a thing just because it's not including me? is not-including inherently excluding?
I just feel like you're approaching what I'm saying in bad-faith, while what I'm saying is not what you might think.
@@stahu_mishima but you have other festivals you can go. Why do you have to come to ours
Can white people go lol
Anyone can go lol
no
airilove17 umm yes
+airilove17 I agree .
no it supposed to be a safe space for black people
Not counterculture but nice try
I think I’m gonna get a lot of shit flung my way, but here it goes anyways, I’m a white boy, but as a civil rights aficionado I am fascinated my this Afropunk movement and I hope nobody gets pissed at me, I just wanna know, is this something white people can get involved in?
It's America dude. If it is something a certain ethnicity can't get involved in because of said ethnicity, then it shouldn't be worth your time anyways, as all that is is racism. Point is, you do you. If the whole Afropunk thing is something you want to get into, then get into it. Personally, I am looking at the lineup for the Atlanta festival in October to see if I want to go.
No
Hm.
the gatekeepers are in the education system pre k to university
I'm not unemployed I'm a tastemaker
0:29 i bet shes not fulani
You have said too much already. this is like hollywood or halloween. They dress up for one or two days then go perm their hair and wear high heel the next. None of these women have ever made anything from cow milk. +nyeeezy
+Richard Swanson you don't even know them so how could you say what they are and do. If you haven't noticed becoming more in tune with your African roots is becoming more popular which is amazing. Why are you mad black people are finally accepting themselves.
David Boucard I see your point but it was/still due to ignorance you have to understand black all around the world to understand why we are so disconnected but we social media is bringing us together. At the end of the day we are African and African unity is very important for our future because we were dominated through Europe unity
But its not punk Its like to call A Leopard using the word Dolphin
“CNN” “Counter-culture”
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