Wormhole Ratting With A MYRMIDON || EVE Online

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  • @Seeker-ie8xd
    @Seeker-ie8xd Год назад +10

    always love the myrm. havent had a reason to fly it recently which sucks but as an early game ship its amazing. the two main weapon systems that are the most effective for newbros are missiles and drones. missiles dont need tracking and drones are pretty much perfect from the get go for newbros. thats why the jack of all trades newbro ships is the gila but its expensive. Meanwhile the myrm is a 6th of the price and naturally tankier as a BC which is huge for newbros. they are able to make more mistakes and wont be punished as hard for doing so then something like a Frigate or destroyer would if you made the same mistake in pve. If you are able to gear your mid slots and rigs enough to make the myrm a shield fit youll be able to fit a ton of damage mods in the lows for drones and whatever weapons system you choose
    [Myrmidon, *Simulated Myrmidon Fitting]
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Co-Processor II
    Capacitor Flux Coil II
    Capacitor Flux Coil II
    X-Large Clarity Ward Enduring Shield Booster
    Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
    Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
    Large Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery
    Drone Navigation Computer I
    Shield Command Burst I
    [Empty High slot]
    [Empty High slot]
    [Empty High slot]
    Drone Link Augmentor I
    Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
    Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
    Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
    Hobgoblin II x5
    Hammerhead II x5
    Praetor II x4
    Acolyte II x5
    Armor Energizing Charge x300
    Rapid Repair Charge x300
    Core Scanner Probe I x8
    Active Shielding Charge x300
    Mobile Tractor Unit x1
    ^Here is a shield fit myrm that does more damage then your current armor fit with one extra damage mod.
    [Myrmidon, *Simulated Myrmidon Fitting]
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Shield Power Relay II
    Shield Power Relay II
    Large Shield Extender II
    Large Shield Extender II
    Large Shield Extender II
    Large Shield Extender II
    Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
    Shield Command Burst I
    [Empty High slot]
    [Empty High slot]
    [Empty High slot]
    Drone Link Augmentor I
    Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
    Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
    Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
    Hobgoblin II x5
    Hammerhead II x5
    Praetor II x4
    Acolyte II x5
    Armor Energizing Charge x300
    Rapid Repair Charge x300
    Core Scanner Probe I x8
    Shield Harmonizing Charge x300
    Mobile Tractor Unit x1
    ^ here is a meme fit, passive shield regen fit that does more damage then all myrm fits so far with 4 damage mods. You can mix and match a mid slot for more drone application with a damage slot low with a shield regen mod if you want but this is a fun fit to run.

  • @keldon_champion
    @keldon_champion 2 месяца назад +3

    The thing you are overlooking with the myrm (possibly with drone boats as a whole) is options. Drone boats trade DPS for versatility, take the myrm vs a drake the drake wins in DPS hands down every time but the drake can't bring a full flight of salvage drones, a full flight of ECM drones (a nice safety measure against being tackled) while still having rooms for all their DPS drones with room for spares. It's one of the reasons the stratios is so nice, the drone bay and cargo holds are massive so you can bring all kinds of stuff and even refit in space for whatever it is you find.

    • @captainbenzie
      @captainbenzie  2 месяца назад

      True, but I'm gauging all this from a purely combat perspective. Also, a drake without combat drones outdpses a Myrmidon, so you can carry salvage drones if you want.
      Ultimately though, you are right, but from a purely combat perspective, looking at ISK/hr and cost of vessel, the Myrmidon doesn't stand up. You then also need a LOT more skills to fly a Myrmidon over a Drake due to Drone skills being more SP intensive.

    • @keldon_champion
      @keldon_champion 2 месяца назад +1

      @@captainbenzie I agree with everything you said and you are right about the Drake's DPS being better even without the drones. All things are trade offs in eve though and you are trading a ship with a dedicated purpose for a ship with more versatility. As we all know in eve it is generally better for a ship to be great at 1 thing than ok in a bunch of things. If you want a tech 1 PvE DPS machine it is really hard to beat a Drake and for ratting whenever I consider something else it's hard not to think "but a drake is still better or cheaper".

    • @captainbenzie
      @captainbenzie  2 месяца назад

      @@keldon_champion Exactly this. No ship is useless, but when examining a specific scenario, there's usually a best/worst though even then there are trade-offs.
      Like in my C3 ratting series, sure the Ikitursa is right up there but, geez, it's so expensive compared to something like a Zealot or Cerberus.
      Guess what I'm saying is, if you like thee Myrmidon, it's a GREAT ship with a load of excellent applications. And just because something else is "better" doesn't mean you shouldn't fly what you enjoy.

  • @sir_kettle3858
    @sir_kettle3858 Год назад +6

    Love the Myrm, one of the most beautiful ships in all of fiction

    • @captainbenzie
      @captainbenzie  Год назад +1

      It's an unusual and unique ship for sure!

    • @xxxlonewolf49
      @xxxlonewolf49 Год назад +1

      It's a boomerang...or harvesting machete.

  • @TheCynysterMind
    @TheCynysterMind Год назад +6

    A Myrmidon was my very first ratting ship ever....
    I was a High-sec only miner for the longest time and I got invited to a Null-sec Alliance and they gifted me my first ratting ship.
    Thier's is a Massive Armor Tank... It is terrible if a ganking crew catches you but it will survive anything the rats through at you
    (Unless like me you did not have your overview displaying Dreadnaughts....)
    If you come across a dreadnaught... you best run.

  • @stevejohnson6248
    @stevejohnson6248 Год назад +5

    One suggestion would be to organize your drones into groups. Then you can just throw the folder you want into space to launch them. I usually call mine fighting/mining/salvage or by damage type or size if I'm fielding a dedicated drone boat such as Med Therm/Med Kin/Lt Therm...etc. Great video!

    • @captainbenzie
      @captainbenzie  Год назад +2

      Great tip for the drone names! I normally do group into Combat and Injured (showed this in my drone video) but I always forget to set it up on newer ships or ones that I don't use.

  • @jannikgluckert8501
    @jannikgluckert8501 Год назад +3

    one great thing about the myrmidon is also that you can easily fit some neuts & a warp disruptor to absolutely spook the average solo t3c trying to gank you

    • @captainbenzie
      @captainbenzie  Год назад

      Haha, good idea! Sadly, I've never seen a solo T3C. Last time I saw a Tengu, it ended up being three Tengus and a Loki 😅

  • @Wyrsa
    @Wyrsa Год назад +3

    Took a break from wormholes to live in Pochven for a while. Almost as scary as the wormholes, but I can dock.

    • @captainbenzie
      @captainbenzie  Год назад

      Haha, we have a station so I can dock in J-Space too 😉

    • @Wyrsa
      @Wyrsa Год назад +2

      @@captainbenzie even minus the station, w-space is still less scary and stress inducing than nullsec. I got stuck in WS and used a needle jack filimant to get out. Put me in the middle of Fountain.

  • @malango255
    @malango255 Год назад +1

    My earliest years of eve were spent in wormholes ratting in a myrmidon in C3s. Passive shields of course lol, Repped more than a drake passive.. Could earn a plex in a day. Melted nano ribbons sold for like 7m each back then. great memories. It could use 5 heavies back then.

  • @andrewperry1987
    @andrewperry1987 Год назад +1

    For heat management, move armor rep to the far sides then drone amps, the armor membranes in middle for lows

    • @captainbenzie
      @captainbenzie  Год назад

      I did a video on overheating recently where I talked about slot layout, but I've since been told that it doesn't actually matter. The entire rack gets heat no matter where the modules actually are in relation to each other.

  • @nationalnightlynews8553
    @nationalnightlynews8553 6 месяцев назад +1

    this ship earnt me my first self plex when i was stuck in null, always have fond memories of it... though now i see it more as a powerful pvp boat than a beginner pve boat :P
    if you ever do pvp content, the myrmidon is a ridiculously strong boat for the price, able to tank a lot of damage. i'd recommend running autocannons instead of blasters, the extra range, cap independence and damage selection is strong. the ship also has a surprising amount of mids for an armor bc, so it is a very nice ship. maybe autos could work for pve, too...

    • @nationalnightlynews8553
      @nationalnightlynews8553 6 месяцев назад

      to add on to the nostalgia factor, i got the myrmidon my first day into null because i randomly won a 100mil giveaway :P that was a very nice boost for me
      i did all my ratting in staging for the extra isk (and the meme factor, i was literally able to bring out another one of these if i lost one, which was almost daily), i might have singlehandedly brought up myrmidon prices in null staging by a bit cuz of how much i had to replace these, that i eventually used a free bpc program my alliance had to use my ratting loot to make my own myrmidons for the cost of a vexor

  • @zhongjie
    @zhongjie Месяц назад +2

    If anyone is coming here looking for myrm in WH space you should try a passive shield fit, it's much comfier than active armour repping
    [Myrmidon, Myrmidon fit]
    Damage Control II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Shield Power Relay II
    Shield Power Relay II
    Shield Power Relay II
    Shield Power Relay II
    Large Shield Extender II
    Large Shield Extender II
    Large Shield Extender II
    Dread Guristas EM Shield Amplifier
    Thermal Shield Amplifier II
    720mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet EMP M
    720mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet EMP M
    Shield Command Burst I, Shield Harmonizing Charge
    720mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet EMP M
    720mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet EMP M
    Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
    Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
    Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
    Federation Navy Ogre x4

    • @captainbenzie
      @captainbenzie  Месяц назад +1

      Great fit, thank you - I'll try it out!!

    • @zero_udk
      @zero_udk Месяц назад +1

      Trying this today will report back

    • @Donald-mo2oe
      @Donald-mo2oe 25 дней назад

      @@zero_udk How did it work out?

  • @derekforrest6827
    @derekforrest6827 Год назад +3

    Top quality info again Captain!! Keep up the good work helping alot of newbros out like my friends 😊😊 ps: can you change the hp/s in fitting windows to show armorial per/s etc would give a more accurate indication of how much tank rather than per 8 sec this way people can sub mods to attain close to same hp/s. Love the work ❤

  • @GamerHandle198
    @GamerHandle198 Год назад +3

    You forgot about the nestor the king of drone C5 rating, as a group. Plus the Domi pairs well with them for drone assist

    • @captainbenzie
      @captainbenzie  Год назад +2

      Didn't forget it, just didn't mention it as it's a bit heavier on the cost/SP edge, but a ship I own and fly and definitely worth talking about in a future video!

    • @fahaf
      @fahaf Год назад

      That domi pair interests me... Would like to see a video on j that

  • @MalcolmLionel
    @MalcolmLionel Год назад +1

    Ill keep my Drauger for C2's 🔻. Its a lot of fun and aligns faster. The Drauger is the only destroyer I know of that can run lvl 4's as well, its tank is just that ridiculous.

    • @captainbenzie
      @captainbenzie  Год назад +1

      You can also just use a Kikimora, helps keep the costs down from the Draugr ☺️

  • @lavalion9751
    @lavalion9751 Год назад +2

    o7 Another excellent video! One question, though. When showcasing a ship that isn't passive tanked (e.g. armor reps) why don't you switch the active defense (hp/s) in the defense window of the fitting menu to match? This would make it a bit easier to see hp/s.

    • @captainbenzie
      @captainbenzie  Год назад +1

      Yup, just forgot to do it for a lot of these. Still learning how to make my content the best it can be ☺️

    • @lavalion9751
      @lavalion9751 Год назад

      It's a neverending climb. Keep up the good work! :D

  • @Sausedge
    @Sausedge Год назад +1

    why don't you out the drones in folders? so you can just right click and launch all instead of 1 and 1? or is that not a thing anymore since i last played? or just prefrence?
    Awesome video, lots of good info. keep it going

    • @captainbenzie
      @captainbenzie  Год назад

      Drone grouping is still a thing! I did show it in my drone video, but I tend to forget it on each individual ship I fly! Thank you for your support, I'm glad you enjoyed! 🚀

  • @jollygreentank1131
    @jollygreentank1131 8 месяцев назад +1

    Ok so I will say first I know echoes is dif than eve online. However in echoes I found the most stable and effective myrm I had used no bursts... I had long range artillery cannons and armor hardeners with a afterburner and target painters. Again I understand the games are night and day. Just curious if that would be a more alpha friendly setup? Could it work to just super tank and double rep a myrm. Orbit a mtu at like 30k and using medium drones to screen frigs as you target down the battleships with your big guns. I was running deep null anomalies in echoes with that kind of fit. Fast clears and never dropped below 50% armor.
    Just curious what your thoughts might be.

    • @captainbenzie
      @captainbenzie  8 месяцев назад

      Honestly you kinda need the bursts, but they're alpha friendly

  • @christiankomodo
    @christiankomodo 8 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks!

    • @christiankomodo
      @christiankomodo 8 месяцев назад +1

      Whatever topic I am curious about, you have a video about it! Thanks for all the great content. And as a fellow ADHD chap I appreciate those videos too!

    • @captainbenzie
      @captainbenzie  8 месяцев назад +1

      I'm really glad that you're enjoying and thank you for being my first ever Super Thanks!!!

  • @jameswohler985
    @jameswohler985 Год назад +2

    I am a Galante fan and to be honest I have no use for this ship. Maybe the Navy version is buffed enough with some real turrets to make it woth while. The Cyclone Fleet Issue is the bomb.

    • @captainbenzie
      @captainbenzie  Год назад

      It's definitely an "early" wormholer ship for sure

    • @jollygreen4662
      @jollygreen4662 Год назад

      Can u tell me more of the cyclone navy issue?

    • @jameswohler985
      @jameswohler985 Год назад +1

      @@jollygreen4662 It is one of the newer Fleet ships. I personally think it is a bit buffed, it gets some great missile bonuses, velocity, explosion velocity and rate of fire. It is tankier than the Fleet Hurricane, shield and hull, and is set up for shield tank. If you happen to be in missiles and shield versus armor and projectile weapons it can do very well. I was competing with everything short of the bling Tengu pilots, in a newer alt. Cap recharge is slow but is good sized to start.

  • @M1551NGN0
    @M1551NGN0 Год назад +2

    Although I personally play FW to make ISK as it's really really fun and galmil is a fun place to talk to, I would really love to use my good old Woodpecker to go ratting in Wormholes.
    Turkey❌
    Woodpecker ✅
    Woodpecker Supremacy!!!

  • @ovogaming7453
    @ovogaming7453 Год назад +1

    Did you ever get the domi and nestor setup going? Havent seen a video on it

  • @peterpearson8662
    @peterpearson8662 Год назад +1

    Please organise your drone bay Captain!!!

  • @IxonCR1
    @IxonCR1 7 месяцев назад

    can we get a railgun rokh vid? also love these types :D

  • @BlueScreen19
    @BlueScreen19 Год назад +1

    What is your favorite drones? Mine is the Gecko, which ship can launch the most Gecko?

    • @captainbenzie
      @captainbenzie  Год назад

      Geckos use 50mb bandwidth, and as far as I know, the largest bandwidth is 125mb, meaning two, with an extra Heavy.

  • @k1illagorilla
    @k1illagorilla Год назад +2

    cant you group your drones for easier launch selection?

    • @captainbenzie
      @captainbenzie  Год назад

      Yup, I showcase this in my drone video but I tend to forget to set it up for every drone ship I fly 😅

  • @tostones1945
    @tostones1945 Год назад +1

    Do you plan on doing logistics and guardian ship videos?

    • @captainbenzie
      @captainbenzie  Год назад

      Yes, definitely! Not Guardian, though, as those don't exist as a type in EVE Online

    • @disekjoumoer
      @disekjoumoer Год назад

      @@captainbenzie The Guardian is the Amarr T2 logi ship.

    • @captainbenzie
      @captainbenzie  Год назад

      @@disekjoumoer yes, I'm aware, but in EVE Echoes, which I also covered, there are ships called "Guardians" which are like tanks (they use Shield Field Modules and Armour Link Modules) to essentially "tank" for a fleet)

  • @k4talin68
    @k4talin68 Месяц назад +1

    How is Amar Arbitrator w 50mb/s compared to this? Might be much better than Myrmodon for this activity. But please . that is not proper drone ship.

    • @captainbenzie
      @captainbenzie  Месяц назад

      Arbitrator runs C2s really well, I did a video on it.

  • @quackenforged68
    @quackenforged68 Год назад +1

    I feel like I am missing something, why is he able to run two command modules when the myrmidon clearly states only one can be used at a time

  • @davidalexander8786
    @davidalexander8786 Год назад

    why are you not using a Reactive Armor Hardener ?

    • @captainbenzie
      @captainbenzie  Год назад

      Was one of those modules I didn't really think about when doing this. Definitely worth using.

  • @BLACKBIODRAGON
    @BLACKBIODRAGON 9 месяцев назад +1

    Kronos is more popular at HighSec Triglavian hunting.

  • @bushrangers5162
    @bushrangers5162 Год назад +1

    I have been playing eve for 5 years now and I never go to j space because I find it so dam confusing 😂

    • @captainbenzie
      @captainbenzie  Год назад +1

      I've got a load of guides to surviving J-Space. You can find the playlist here:
      ruclips.net/p/PLweq846y_h9Y1mxvJKJFbj-RE6A7w2_JI

  • @LorenzoTempestini
    @LorenzoTempestini Год назад

    8 sec of align time...if a fleet of plyers find you then you can't get away...

    • @captainbenzie
      @captainbenzie  Год назад

      If you see them on D-Scan, plenty of time to escape to a safe.

    • @LorenzoTempestini
      @LorenzoTempestini Год назад

      @@captainbenzie this is a thing i never hunderstood...a lot of people say "whatch your d-scan" as a meme...but i if i D-scan i only find NPC or Players but it's not updated...do you have any good guide to follow?

  • @Durngor
    @Durngor Год назад +1

    Yeah, the Myrmidon is a strange ship.
    Compared to the vexor, you deal the same damage with light and medium drones, and a bit more with heavies. But at the same time you are bigger and slower, but have more tank. So you could survive higher incoming damage, but can't deal with the higher enemy hp pool.
    Getting a Myrmidon for something a Vexor can do as well is not the way.

    • @captainbenzie
      @captainbenzie  Год назад

      A Vexor doesn't run C2s particularly well. It doesn't have the tank to survive them.

  • @andygreen7314
    @andygreen7314 Год назад +2

    The only thing I dislike about Eve online is other players, it would be a much better game if they didn't exist.

    • @Mapdanda
      @Mapdanda Год назад +1

      The game would be incredibly boring without the risk of another player ruining your plans. Maybe try X4 if you don't like that.

    • @andygreen7314
      @andygreen7314 Год назад

      @@Mapdanda well that's not my opinion, I find having to continually avoid unwanted player aggression boring and fun destroying, therefore, yes I sink many more hours into X4 than I do Eve, and will likewise do the same when Starfield launches. But each to their own.

    • @captainbenzie
      @captainbenzie  Год назад +1

      That would be a very boring and pointless game imho 😅 it may be a meme, but the best ship in EVE is Friendship, and the game is all about the stories we make on the way.

    • @andygreen7314
      @andygreen7314 Год назад

      @@captainbenzie of course I was being hyperbolic, I don't have an issue with other players as a whole. It's the element that espouse everyone "must" pvp and this element is of course disingenuous because they don't in general engage in fair pvp, they go after easy targets, weaker opponents, in short they are griefers, their enjoyment is the act of griefing. This is bourne out by their vociferous opposition for anything that levels the playing field for those with no interest in pvp, e.g. WCS nerf, "it's not fair , these explorers, miners, haulers can just get away it's ruining my content".
      For me the enjoyment is in the: exploration, skill tree advancement, construction.. etc continually having to look over my shoulder for other players detracts from the experience not adds to it, it diminishes player interaction not promotes it (as you say in many of your own videos, you see anyone on d-scan you get out of there). The large inter corporation battles, the FW pvp I have no issue with it's in my opinion genuine pvp, the other sort is griefing not pvp.

    • @captainbenzie
      @captainbenzie  Год назад

      @@andygreen7314 whereas for me, the reason I love Gas Huffing, wormhole ratting etc... Is the danger and risk.
      Gas Huffing in a wormhole is functionally identical to HiSec mining, but that element of risk, having to play like a gazelle, aware of danger, sitting in it regardless, and learning how and when to run away, is part of it.
      Without that danger and risk, what's the point? I have my Prospect, I huff gas and make ISK to do... what, exactly? What purpose does ISK serve if I never need to replace the ship I enjoy flying?
      Losing my Tengu early on hurt, but it gave me a goal to work towards - replacing the ship, learning from my mistakes, and being harder prey to catch.
      A couple of weeks ago, I lost my Golem to a fleet of about 20 ships that grabbed me on my way back to the home station. That's a 1.3bn ISK ship. Was it a fair fight? No. The fairness is that I should have prepared better to not even end up in the fight.