I Was Wrong About The Proteus!! || EVE Online
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
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The Tech 3 Strategic Cruisers are some of the most amazing ships in EVE Online! Here's the Proteus I use for C3 ratting!
[Proteus, C3 Heavy Drones]
Damage Control II
Explosive Energized Membrane II
Reactive Armor Hardener
Federation Navy Multispectrum Energized Membrane
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Thukker Large Cap Battery
Republic Fleet Target Painter
10MN Afterburner II
200mm Railgun II
200mm Railgun II
200mm Railgun II
200mm Railgun II
200mm Railgun II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Expanded Probe Launcher II
Medium Explosive Armor Reinforcer II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Proteus Core - Augmented Fusion Reactor
Proteus Defensive - Covert Reconfiguration
Proteus Offensive - Drone Synthesis Projector
Proteus Propulsion - Hyperspatial Optimization
Medium Hull Maintenance Bot I x1
Caldari Navy Wasp x9
Medium Armor Maintenance Bot I x1
Javelin M x2150
Spike M x1515
Sisters Combat Scanner Probe x16
Mobile Tractor Unit x1
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I've found this video yesterday and decided to bring my "yamaha" proteus out of the barn. Dusted it off, bounght shinies to make him feel better and went for a ride. Smooth operator... Love it to bits. Drone boats are my cup of tea so it is a pleasure to fly that thing. Thanks Captain! Fly safe o/
Really glad that you enjoyed that!!
Do you call it Yamaha because it kinda looks like a motor cycle with no wheels?
Glad to see this ship get a decent show case. If you even suggested a proteus for anything outside of tackle pvp youd be called every name under bobs eyesight. Love the proteus, love wormholes, and love this video. Thank you for showing a working fit!
Glad you're enjoying it! I've been told it's the "worst" T3C so often but yet there it is!!!
Another thing about fitting T3 cruisers, you can fit 100mn AB instead 10mn and have great speed without impact on your capacitor amount and it cant be shut down with scram like MWD would.
Correct! The only issue is the massive mass increase which makes acceleration and turning slower.
And if you fit for it you can make an absolute monster of a tackle cruiser that can tank 1600dps applied that can point to 84 km and go 6900m/s with 100mn ab . Not cheap though it will be about 50% as effective with a cheaper fit and no backpack links.
Great video! I know they're expensive, but really, try out Geckos! They kick out more dps, go faster and take more of a beating than faction heavy drones. Also, around 14:30 you mention applying 1,000 dps. If you're adding the drone DPS at the bottom to the DPS listed at the top, don't. Mouse over the DPS at the top and you'll see the drone dps is included in that 558, so your drones are doing most of the damage. I don't even run guns on mine... However, maybe I misunderstood. Either way, good stuff, keep it going!
What’s your fit?
Lmao! Missed that, thank you!!!
"everyone told me it would suck for PvE." It's amazing how many people have no idea what they're talking about in this game.
Yup. I've really enjoyed covering tonnes of ships "that suck" only to utterly rock them.
Lots and lots of people don't actually understand anything in EVE. They just accept what others said and parrot it without understanding the basis of it. Just means there's more isk opportunities for those that do.
Haha, I feel less crazy after hearing someone else thinks the Spike/Javelin thing is counter-intuitive "Spike" makes me think of a crossbow bolt, something sharp and stout that hits very hard but doesn't travel very far.
Exactly! A spike is short and sharp, a javelin is long and literally designed to travel great distances!!
Yes! I’m not the only one!!!
It makes sense to me when you think of the projectile size & mass fired from a launcher. A Spike is a teeny little arrowhead. Fire that from a launcher, it's going to go VERY far, but not do as much damage. A Javelin, on the other hand, is a huge & long piece of metal. Fire that big boy from the same launcher, & it won't go near as far, but Ooo Buddy! It's going to do much more damage when it hits.
I guess that you were wrong saying that you have over 1k dps. The 559 dps is the sum of your hard points and your drones.
Yup, I have learned this
Wow, I actually love the look of this ship. Almost reminds me of something Moebius would have drawn for Heavy Metal magazine. Almost has a semi-organic feel to it.
In the lore, the T3 cruisers are based off sleeper tech that the empires got their hands on. Of the 4 t3 cruisers in existence I definitely find the Proteus looks the closest to its sleeper ship relatives.
It's probably one of my favorite designs in the game, though I'm a sucker for the bio-engineer look of all the gallente ships.
Lmao yeah, actually!!
I liked the way mine looked before they shifted what the subsystems look like. Now my go-to build looks terrible.
It looks like a superbike without wheels. Kind of?
@@yakisobanoodle kinda
Always assume there are at least 2 hunters on grid with you just waiting to strike. I saw one video that was funny because as the hunter went to uncloak another bomber uncloaked and opened fire. So first bomber killed the target, the second bomber killed the first, the the first bombers friends warped in on grid and killed the second bomber. These things happen so you HAVE to assume the people are always there.
Yup! Welcome to the insanity of J-Space!
using T1 ammo can help with your transition issues between spike and javlin... having T1 ammo can also allow you to engage a lot further out than the T2 allows.
Good tip!!
@@captainbenzie take a good look at the navy faction ammo as well. Depending on your skill and target lock mods you can get withering DPS at over 100K. I've noticed that a lot of players don't explore rail gun ammo and what the various flavors can do for them. They pick an engagement distance and rule of thumb the ammo type. You can design your engagements to take advantage of ammo type. Switching as needed. It doesn't take very long for it to become second nature. I learned to do it with the Myrmidon and Talos hulls. It can be a real game changer if you put a little time into the practice.
Thank you very much . 2 Highlights for me : 1/ your detailed explanation of your fit and 2/ explanation of your strategy in the different waves ( what first second third )
Glad it was helpful!
after the drone buff the proteus is great! and omg the "akira bike"/"gundam" vibe you get from the drone boat configuration with the exoplanets skin is amazing... flew that ship 4 months in LS farming tags after the buff and couldn't stop flying it!
Oh man I hadn't thought of the Akira bike! Great film! And yeah!!!
I'm just returning to Eve after a few years due to life. When I left Eve, there was one additional subsystem and the covert config also nullified warp bubbles. I appreciate this fit as I have a pure Gallente toon that will be flying it. Damn, I miss EFT - but I did make some changes to your fit for more DPS. I put 250mm Rails which results in a stable cap with 1.1% less than your fit - comes in at 62.2% stable. I think the extra DPS is worth that 1.1% given how well your fit runs these C3's. I also increased DPS by doing what others have mentioned - 2x Gecko, 1xAugmented Ogre (flies just a little slower than the Geckos). Total DPS is 821.1. Although I made some tweaks, I really, really appreciated this video and your fit as a starting point. Like many, I've only ever setup one Proteus and it was a pvp tackle. So, thank you!
The fit isn't meant as "the ultimate", it's just a starting point so I'm glad you've tweaked it to your own needs!
The Interdiction Nullification still exists, but it's a Propulsion Subsystem now.
"It still looks awful but I'm having a lot of fun with it" that would be the gallente motto yes :P
With the exception of a couple of ships like the Algos, Tristan, Incursus, Nemesis and absolutely the Hecate. But absolutely agree. They definitely have the ugliest ships BY FAR.
I'm keen to see what happens with the Gallente. Helmar recently tweeted that he wants to see them changed from Green Caldari to being much more unique.
Thanks for the open mind and weighing the evidence. Good video. Still a Tengu fan but this has moved into number 2. Much appreciated.
Glad you enjoyed it!
The only recommendation I would make would be to switch out the Target Painter for an Omnidirectional Tracking Link. You can either switch out for a compact straight up; or you can switch out your AB for a compact and then get the T2 Tracking Link. The link with a tracking speed script is really going to improve how well your drones hit their target. And with the drones being the primary damage dealer, I think this would be an overall improvement on damage.
I do have another fit that's cheaper and performs similar well, but its not that much of a difference. But I do recommend the Tracking Link over the painter. YMMV
I'll give it a try!
My nine year old made the same observation about Spike/Javelin. You may indeed feel validated.
Yay, glad it's not just me
The Proteus systems the T3 update removed were pretty good looking. All of its worst looking options survived. The old high-fitting bow section was a fish head thing that I miss.
Haha yeah
I've had a Proteus for a long time. I HATE that they changed around the looks of the subsystems. I miss my hammerhead face.
Whereas in so glad that I don't need to use that particular subsystem 😂 to each their own though
When someone drops on you, there may not be time to retrieve drones so Gecko is a stupid idea. You can swap out the Covert for an additional low slot with drone amplifier, making your dmg higher. Can also bling the drone amplifier to make it even higher.
That's planning for failure. With good D-Scan, you can easily get the Gecko and be out of there, and the cloak assists with that too.
Clearing a site quickly, with judicious use of D-Scan, is how you survive. Geckos are fast to return. If you're really worried, join a wormhole corp and have other folks ratting sites nearby or eyes on the holes 😉
Proteus is fantastic for pvp and pve
It needed that drone bandwidth buff and now it's gnarly
Yup! Yet everyone I speak to refers to it as "the worst of the T3Cs" haha
Ok, been running the Proteus for the last few weeks. Am running in nullsec, so not quite the same as C3, but quite tense because of potential wartargets or neuts coming in to mess with us. Anyway, the drones seem to do well with 2 x Gecko, 2 x medium and 1 x light. Paper DPS is very good, and in practice it's been quite effective. Something to consider rather than the 5 x heavy setup conventional wisdom dictates. Yes, I carry a spare Gecko but have not lost one yet. DPS is nearly 90 points higher on paper and the drones really tear up stuff. Still debating whether to run the prop mod that gives two more low slots to get another drone damage mod, which would mean cutting the target painter to retain the drone nav mod in the mids. Anyway, it is a good ship and quite fun to fly and easier to get out of trouble than a Marauder. Thanks for your video as it was the impetus for me to take it up again.
Awesome vid as always cap, you solidified my desire for the proteus, which I am saving for right now.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video, and hope you enjoy the Proteus!
good luck, by far my fav. mines 630m has 102hps 80% resist in em and thermal and 40k ehp with 720 dps
Reminds me of the motorcycles in final fantasy 7. The model shown here of the proteus that is.
Lmao kinda!!
Love this fit. Note with interest that should you want, you can use 250mm rails but your cap is much less. Maybe revisit this fully optimized to support the drones? Some remote reps perhaps, and more drone modules. Going to give that a try myself. It's an awesome ship and so ugly it's beautiful!
Full drone support is a cool idea for sure!
@@captainbenzie There's not a lot of room in the tank for low slot drone modules. The mid slot for the painter could be a drone mod, but that just helps the tracking and range of the drones. Thinking that the best thing you could do for drone DPS is to maximize the low slots and add drone speed rigs to help the big boys get on target faster? Then add another drone damage mod in the lows if we can make room.
Yes!!! About time someone made a proteus video! It’s amazing ship!
Supposedly the worst T3C but I really enjoyed it and had a whale of a time!!
@@captainbenzieI love the Proteus! Thankyou
I am not a railgun specialist, and I'm wondering if your application would be better if you were keeping range to the target instead of orbiting the MTU.
Oh yeah, absolutely, but then so would their application because I'd be moving in a straight line away ergo zero traversal and direct hits from incoming fire
Its 100dps, even if you improve it by 30% its still not worth the trouble
I miss how the CPU sub on the proteus made the bridge look. I wish they had kept that in, since it was the best looking sub for it that brought the look of it together.
I hope we get more T3 ships one day like Frigs,BC and maaaybe a T3 BS but make only one BS and make it like a SOE ship
T3 Frigates would be awesome!
The guns are something to be neglected. Sure, they give a little more DPS, but I see the advantage of drones in that you don't have to fill your entire cargo hold with ammunition. Especially if you are traveling solo and perhaps do not have the opportunity to dock somewhere, remote reps for the drones are also a good idea.
The big advantage of the guns is that they generate threat that keeps the NPCs shooting you rather than the drones too.
"People say this is bad. I've found it quite good. Am I doing something wrong?" lol
😅
funny enough the Proteus always felt like a "less fat ishtar with options" in PvE during testing on SiSi and made my decision of which T3 Cruiser to get (first) a whole of a lot harder than it should be, i often find my self tweaking varius simulated fits of the Proteus from cheap to oh please oh god oh why did i even klick undock and have to say, as many problems as she has - she is still a hella lot of fun
Yeah, a great ship!
LOL "looks arent everything , if where i wouldnt be marrigede " well Captain benzie , thats statement was so funny and it works on so many level , i laugh so hard when you said it in the video clip :)
Especially since I'm not divorced 😂😂😂
@@captainbenzie Btw thanks to you video clips , i been forcing my self in to worm holes , it was fun and made me abit nervous , after all bad apples is everywhere :)
Sorry about my spelling , but i am dyslexic , and english is not native speaking or writing to me .
my favorate ship
It's a great ship!
I assume you have since learned this but you do not add the drone dps to the offense dps to get your total dps. The top number is the turrets + the drones added together so you are not doing anywhere near 1000dps with this fit.
Correct
Finally someone else is befuddled by using javelin for short range ammo 😅 Yes the drone bay and bandwidth is absolutely massive. Want to throw a gecko in there feel free.
Geckos are just so expensive, more than the cost of the rest of the fit!
To be honest my Proteus is probably my favorite shit. I got a drone boat and a sniper fit. I love it. My my drone boat does almost 1100dps. I learned to love the look lol.
Nice! Glad you're enjoying!
13:24 Preach
Haha thank you! Glad I'm not alone!
"Which pushes the total dps way over the 1000 mark"
Yeah, about that...
Yeah, a mistake I made in this video and have since learned 😂 we all make mistakes
Best looking T3 tier list:
Legion
Tengu
Proteus
Loki
Fair enough! I love the HAM Loki for looks but to each their own!
C'mon now, the Proteus is very 'Robo Tech' looking. LOL!
How dare you.
Honestly, it looks like a lumpy turd, but it's worse with the Friction Extension Processor installed...
@@captainbenzie LOL!!!
You only have (according to Pyfa) 206 DPS from Javelin and 118 from Spiki (no implants / boosters). Also, with FN Antimatter you get 203 DPS at twice the range of Javelin, making switching much more comfortable, for a negligible price.
@24:50 I think @20km Javelin have close to zero DPS.
Overall, you're enjoying a T3C drone boat, essentially, with probably better overall application than other T3C, since DPS seems to be lower on paper.
Yup, and I never thought I'd enjoy the Proteus, but here we are. Definitely need to toy with the fit a bit more, thank you for your input!
would this work for 5/10 ded sites and escalations?
Yes, DEDs for sure
As with any other race you should decide are you going hybrid or drone fit, not both. Hybrid for pve, I dont see it. So drone. Second question is are you going heavy drones or sentry. Heavy means you approach targets for faster and better management, sentry means you kill stuff from range orbiting your drones.
So:
- at least 2, better 3 damage amplifiers in low ( I always use faction)
- plate 1600 for buffer instead Damage control
- prefer 2 racial hardeners in low instead multi energized membranes, according to rats
- small rails for frigates in high
- omnidirectional tracking link in mid slot for drones
- and in high those modules for greater drone control range
But for me Loki is king, HAM 34 km rage ammo range with 800+ dps, can tank any rat type without changing fit. I use it for 7/10 and 8/10 DED sites. I remember moth ago I cleared 7/10 blood raiders site then jumped trough WH and cleared 7/10 angel site. Only difference was ammo I used.
Interesting ideas for sure, may have a play around and tweak! Loki is still my favourite too, with Tengu a VERY close second!
@@captainbenzie I was playing around, try this If you like heavies, for sentry fit just swap in mid navigation computer for drone tracking link ( I got 740 drone dps + 70 rail dps):
[Proteus, Heavy drone - Serp/Guri]
Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Dark Blood Kinetic Armor Hardener
Dark Blood Thermal Armor Hardener
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
100MN Afterburner II
Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery
Drone Navigation Computer II
Small Remote Armor Repairer II
125mm Railgun II
125mm Railgun II
125mm Railgun II
Drone Link Augmentor I
Sisters Core Probe Launcher
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Kinetic Armor Reinforcer II
Medium Thermal Armor Reinforcer II
Proteus Core - Augmented Fusion Reactor
Proteus Defensive - Covert Reconfiguration
Proteus Offensive - Drone Synthesis Projector
Proteus Propulsion - Hyperspatial Optimization
Hobgoblin II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
Ogre II x8
Sisters Core Scanner Probe x8
Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S x240
Woudp be nice to control 10 drones
Once upon a time
The ship would be too good. Imagine a battleship doing 1500 dps out to 100km with good application even to frigates.
Legion and Proteus. Best of the 4
Weirdly the two that most folks rank the lowest 😅
Agreed. The loki is good but not as versatile at the proteus .
Gallente like a timer bomb if you know correct fit
Smartbomb Proteus is fun!!
@@captainbenzie that very easy to wipe out surrounding and by a way i notice drone AI in abyssal is different than normal drone AI combat, the abyssal kina respond slower than usual combat
Top, as usually
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Good video keep it up also how much isk do you make with it?
42
@@militarymoose87 should be 42 to about 55m per site
About 160-200m an hour
@@captainbenzie you do 4 sites / hr with this? i'm curious how this performs compared to a paladin
i'm so loving with this ship
I'm glad you're having fun!
Is there a proteus for for 1010 sansha escalations?
I don't do Escalations so I personally don't know... but perhaps someone else does?
I have more damage resistance and more reps than your fit and i barely survived a C3 combat site...
Pilot skills and knowledge of the sites and enemies are important. Keeping angular velocity, target priority and positioning for spawn points etc.
my fav T3
Apparently the least popular and supposedly the worst. Yet here we are.
Looks aren't everything. If they were, I wouldn't be married -Benzie
Oof
Why is your Dscan set for 1AU?
Because I'd come back from Faction Warfare and forgot to reset it to 14.3AU
Drone dps is included in total dps… you’re only doing 20dps per gun… with 5 guns…
Yes, I made this video before I realised that. I have since corrected it in future videos 😊
Offence window includes drone DPS... That thing is not hitting 1000 DPS.
I have long since learned this
excuse me ? this is the sexiest looking ship in eve online perdiod.
To each their own 😉
The Turdius.
Lmao 😂
Brave brave man...don't let your spouse see this video
Lmao 😂
But u must have all skills on V for this then its will be work :-) (lerantime 2years)
Not ALL skills. Gallente Subsystems should each be 5, Gallente Cruiser V, and any of the skills for Tech 2 modules.
Yeah, this isn't a Day One ship but can definitely get into it faster than 2 years.
IT LOOKS LIKE A MOTORBIKE TO ME !!
Haha yeah, it kinda does!
I have 3
Nice! It's supposedly the least popular T3C but seems loads use it!!
@@captainbenzie they are really good drone boats
I hope your wife doesn't watch these Videos. You gonna get in trouble for the joke :D
😂
Almost all ships in eve online are hideous
To each their own. Some of the ships in EVE are my favourites in all of scifi