The ONLY Seiko Movements You NEED To Know - Differences & Similarities
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A fun fact you may have noticed about the movement identifiers: any modern movement that ends in "5" is date-only, but one that ends in "6" is day-date.
At the one which ends with 4 is GMT
@@MohitKumar-pl1hpmiyota 8N24 is not a gmt lol
@@---td4ff I was talking about seiko NH movement about which video was about 🙄
@@---td4ff my guy, this ain't a miyota video
@@theinceptor3672 I think I was trying to reply to someone else lol my bad
*_....plus, they are all reliable, durable and long lasting. They can go as long OR OFTEN LONGER than most mechanical movements of any price, between overhauls. Cleaned & oiled regularly, they can last a lifetime if not damaged by impact or corrosion._*
I’m a simple man, I like and enjoy the 7S movement,
Handwinding really isn't that great of a seller for replacing a 7s26. You shake it for a few seconds, put it on your wrist and it'll run fine.
This is the best movement breakdown description and explanation video I've seen. Talking about "dumbing it down". Thank you.
There are actually a portion of "6R/NE" caliber movements that are 4hz, 28,800vph. The 6R20, 6R21, 6R24, and the 6R27. The 6R21 is the branded version of the NE20. These are the power reserve models with varying jewel counts, as well as power reserve capacity. Some 6R's have 45 hours, some 50, and the 6R35 even has 70. I know that this was just meant to be an overview. Just sharing info. Great job
All reserved main spring is the same length but the fullever (automatic)now a days is commercial,there no bushing anymore, in the center of fullever,the it fast in wear and tear,thats the evereaday that I repair here in the Phillipines,I love 7009 or 7002 or 7019,it's durable since 1980's90's,thats the deferent of 7009 and 7s26
After 3-year full service at authorise Seiko SC, my 6R15 running at +2/-1 spd. Extremely grateful.
Great video that clearly explains the differences between 7S, 4R and 6R and that the NH and NE line used in micro brands
I just got into watch modding and this is by far the best content u have put out(only slightly edging the beginners tools, tutorials and advices). U have no idea how helpful this is it, oraybe u actually do caus u were once in our position. I hope u become as big as TGV one day. Cheers!
This is helpful; thorough without being overwhelming.
Great Job man! I love seiko. I have 1 SKX that I love with 7s movement. I also have two more divers with 4R36, also a Solar one and a a Quartz one. All of them reliable, beatufifull. Seiko is the best brand in the world for the money.
Great video. I wish you went through all the Seiko movements.
Not boring at all, very helpful and educational. Thank you
The memory man on watches good vid i now no all about my seiko many thanks
well said, thank you man, seriously your killing it and I love your videos.
cheers dude
Such a great breakdown, thank you so much!
Excellent video! Thank you. I wish I had seen something like this a few years ago.
Thanks for info. I got my first Seiko because of you!
Superbly informative vid! Thanks
This is the most complicated video that I ever watched but I totally understand everything he said considering this is the first video I watched about watch movement.
haha
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Your videos are my great source of reference in Moding my Seikos
OUTSTANDING! Very well explained and informative. Thank you!
Very helpful thank you. I've had my SRP777 since 2019 and just recently considering modding. Coin edge bezel and maybe different hands.
To me, who is quite new to this, this information was very valuable! Thank you so much!
Great video. I have an older 6509 that I may need to upgrade the movement in. Your info is just what I needed.
Not boring at all, you are awesome and explain really well
Thanks for the free lesson. 👍
Very informative and helpful not boring 4r35 movement in two of my seiko Samurais and my SKX 7S movements all keep good enough Acuracy for my needs !
This is a really good way of explaining them. Thank you. Have you ever taken on a commission for something with an ETA or Sellita movement?
When mentioning the SKX line of models... no one ever mentions the 011.... Orange ya glad I I didn’t say175.... 😆🤣😂🤣😆
Thank you for an excellent summary of Seiko movements 😊👍
I believe the common assumption that the 4R/NH movements are always an _upgrade_ to the 7S is not entirely correct and is largely perpetuated for the sake of the mod. On paper, if the biggest difference is the lack of _hacking_ or _hand-winding_ and not frequency, power reserve or accuracy, the assumption is that hacking and hand-winding is _always_ better. The reality is that hacking and hand winding features(but also calendars and high beat) add complication to a movement which combined with human error or misuse can result in shorter service intervals, malfunction or failure of parts. Hacking typically means a setting lever physically stops the balance wheel which could in time effect beat error and amplitude. In any case the setting lever typically has to reach across the entire movement as the balance tends to be mounted opposite the winding stem plus a spring to hold it in place. These are points of failure. Additionally hand winding an auto, epically topping off power, isn't best practice as the rotor will keep winding past full. Hand winding an auto is only meant to be turned once or twice to get the watch going. In practice, the winding pinion has to engage, bypass or work alongside the automatic works which means much smaller, more delicate gearing in an auto as opposed to a true hand winder which is purpose built. Further, the mainspring of an auto is meant to slide along the barrel wall as a safely measure in the event of its being overwound - you cant stop a rotor from spinning. That being, hand-wining an auto more than a turn or two will increase the frequency a mainspring slipping, eventually waring away the inner barrel walls which can lead to inconsistent power transfer and reduced performance. Personally once you've experience a simple hand winder, there is nothing more unsatisfying or seemingly pointless then winding an auto. My ultimate point being, I believe Seiko intentionally designed the 7S to be a movement with as little human intervention as possible as to last as long as possible without service. I believe with the nh35, the idea is that with total ubiquity and low cost you can simply toss it once you break something.
The only watch I've owned in my life is a Gshock and I got that about a year ago... But I absolutely love watching your videos! I'm saving up to have my first automatic be one of the watches you've worked on :D
Do it my friend you won't regret it. I'd recommend starting with a SKX007
Actually, the NH movements are made by Time Module in China, funded by Seiko, for other brands. They have less quality parts from the Seiko in house 4R movements. The 4R movements are the ones actually done by Seiko.
G'day,
I enjoyed the info but I need a little more please.
I upgraded from NH35b to NE15c. It cost me 4 times as much ($220) so, besides the 50 hour reserve, what other components make it higher horology? It's certainly still got the four nylon components on the dial side ! I imagine the spring is stronger but that's all. What info do you have please?
Very well put together video and very clear spoken information! Thank you for teaching me this!
Thanks, this was good information.
Great video. Thank you. Im trying to better understand this hobby and you clarified a few things for me.
Interesting review. Regards.
100% not boring.....and very interesting and informative 👍
You are a smart dude. Good video. I am a watchmaker who focuses on restoring pocketwatches but do repai the occasional watch and I did not know the relationship between 4R and NH.....thanks
I purchased a Seiko 5 Sports Automatic SRPG29K with a 4r36 movement in Australia in February 2023 and the world should know that this watch lost seven minutes in the 24 days of the first month of ownership. I advised the Seiko Australian supplier Linda and Co that the watch was faulty. They replied that it met the specifications so no warranty. Think about that before investing in a Seiko watch.... Robin T 28-March-2023
That's 15 seconds per day and within spec?
You can have someone regulate it better, probably, but you're not going to find a company that will replace a $200 watch because of 15sec/day.
If you want something certified to be at +/- 2sec, go buy a Rolex for 5-10x as much. Just be aware you'll need to have it serviced every year if you actually wear it or it will start to slip towards +/- 15.
My 4R36 runs at -2/day, and my 4R34 was +3/day for what its worth, both are factory regulated.
Dude. Your explanation of the movements is the best. New subscriber here. ❤. Picking up the SRPE74 WTH the 4R36.
Soooooo... I know that NH35 and NH36 are the same size and use the same handsets, but how about the 7S? I would love to add hacking and hand winding to my Seiko 5, so could I slap an NH36 in it and reuse the same hands? I suppose I could break out the calipers and measure the pinion et al, but I'm hoping you already have that info.
Boring to some to others a great wealth of information. You are awesome.
Top of the line info bud,thanks for your video...right to the point
Crushed it ,, Thanks !! Simple and to the point !! 🤛🏼
u got it so simple man. thank u so much for this
Which ones more reliable or long lasting. The 7s vs 4r?
Great video. Newbie to Seiko so really helpful.
That was awesome mate!! I was in 2minds about a purchase, but your info cleared it up. Cheers
Entertaining? dood....very informative for someone just getting into this money pit of a hobby. Greatly appreciated.
Thank you! Very well explained!
Thanks. Very informative and helpful
You break it down so we’ll. Good job man
great job explaining and simplifying !!
Thank you for making this video.. very informative 👍
Thank you for this. Very informative.
Simple & easy to understand, thanks!
Excellent video sir, this helped me very much.
Great info’, thank you 👍.
Why did I have to spend SO LONG to find a simple and rational explanation of these movements for which you'd think everyone would be looking? Thank Bokonon for you!
Though I don’t prefer a day/date, perhaps I’ll just stick with purchasing a Seiko 5 and have the movement regulated.
Great video brother!! Thank you!!
Great video. Very informative. Thanks!
You added alot of infos for me , thanks alot
Dude this is so informative! Thanks
Thanks for information.
Thank you for the info sir ❤
This was very helpful thanks
I'm doing a mod on my 7S26 SKX007, i am replacing the movement with a NH36 movement. now you say i need to change the day wheel to the 7S26 movement wheel, well i damaged it apon removal and went to buy a new one off Ebay but all the day wheels for sale say they fit 7S26 and NH36 movements. i confused, where can i purchase the right part.
Thanx, for me it was very informative 🙂
Can you please check how similar the new 6r35 is to the 6r15?
Good job. Exactly what I wanted to know.
Fantastic explainer! Well done!
MM-style hands are the best mod for any divewatch.
Nerd level 100! Keep this info coming.
Me own skx011, love the color, but bit hard to read the time on sunny day compare to skx007
Thank you
You didn’t cover the 6R35 and 6R54?
thanks for the summary,awesome
Very nice and informative....
Thank u bro....
This is great! I'm late to the party but I've been looking for this info everywhere. You have a new sub! Keep it up. Hoping to get you to make me a mod someday. Cheers!
Hi ! Is there any seiko sarb033 case like for custom build that will fit my snxs79 dial and hands ?
Nice explanation thanks!
Very informative video keep up the good work & increase the background illumination next time
Talking about accessibility, what are your thoughts of the pricing of the new Willard re-issue?
A good, very informative, watchable and better video than others. So I think getting a date only seiko means it's better to go for 6r than 4r right? How is 6r in terms of reliability weight and serviceability worldwide as compared to 4r.
Love your videos! Just started getting into watch building and have 3 old 7s26 movements I am learning on. What size winder would I use to do mainspring cleaning. I would to do them one caliber at a time because of price. Love your moding vids!!
Very informational, love it
any idea what my seiko 5 7019-8180 movement has and what I could upgrade it with ?
Very usefull. Thanks Eric.
super thanks
Great content man, amazing stuff
Good video 👍🏼thanks
Well done lad. You make excellent videos that are always fun and interesting to watch. JP. The old guy.
Great video dude!
So what movement not listed here is the most accurate Seiko automatic? Is there something better?
Very good videos. Thank you.
super helpful.