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This is coming from the Splatoon community. The SPLATOON community. You know, the community with some of the most inclusivity of LGBTQ and neurodivergence, and yet some people still think that ridiculing black and asian people is *funny?* We ought to be ashames of ourselves.
we? its not the whole community being racist... just a few bad actor . This community is great on the whole
@@solvdevtrue, this is the first time ive seen it.. also the most ive ever heard jackpot be discussed 💀
@@helladiscreet yeah. its a shame bc their team had such a nice aesthetic imo, the 777 tag was really creative lmao. players were'nt anything special (although extremely good still)
@@solvdevthe problem isn’t just that there are a few racists, it’s that there are racists, in positions of power, who are not called out for their racism.
Did you watch the video?
We? Why tf is that my fault?
This whole situation just makes me upset, and I would not blame Nintendo at all if they became even stricter with their tournament guidelines after this.
Super smash bro 2020 incident already did that with the people who got expose to sleeping with minor so im not suprise if they did that with the splatoon community
Safety is the number 1 priority in events nowadays. There will be people who do not agree with the guidelines, but they got to obey them.
My question is what does making stricter guidelines do about this? Making stricter guidelines won’t stop somebody from being a bad person. Making stricter guidelines won’t stop racist people from existing. I understand peoples’ concerns but genuinely what does making stricter tournament guidelines do to change someone’s viewpoints?
@@ObiAlmightythe point isn't necessarely to change the bad people, but to protect the good people from the bad people in those places.
Ikr
It’s so crazy, as a black person Jackpot was the reason why I was introduced to competitive and got into it in the first place. Seeing all the “jokes” they were making is so disgusting
why u got an asian as ur pfp then
@@3ricbae??? this really wasn’t the read you thought it was💀
@@3ricbae …my pfp is Yves from loona??? 😭😭😭 are you a blue dragon irl bc of ur pfp then IJBOL
@@tondemowonders IJBOL FR COMEBACK XD
@@3ricbae imagine someone with a marina pfp you think theyre a black woman with tentacles as her hair😭?
I am extremely disappointed with Jackpot. They were supposed to uplift the Splatoon community and show that you can do anything if you put in the time and work hard. They beat everyone else at Worlds, it showed NA is a genuine region in the Splatoon scene. Now it feels like it was for nothing. They let me down, they let everyone down.
I know, right…It was so exciting seeing that Nintendo actually threw the competitive scene a bone and put Jackpot *in the game* as celebration of their victory, and now the banner that was supposed to inspire pride in the community is just a reminder of how disappointing this whole debacle is
*Leafii & Madness. I wouldn't clump the rest of Jackpot with them.
This really is the epitome of “I was rooting for you we were all rooting for you!!”
Yeah, i feel like Kaizer definitely deserved to win their set against them as an apology
@@jjQlLlLq I tried to say that too, trust me I've wanted to keep the name of Jackpot mean something important but it seems .q and Jared also did some stuff. I don't have the evidence on me right now but if you're curious I can go look for it.
As an Australian, I had no idea that this happened. Us Australians were asleep when this happened and wondered why people were mad at jackpot when we woke up. We didn’t know anything happened.
Also why did it have to be the one tournament that Nintendo interfered in…
not Australian but also slept through it
I just watched the KenKnows video about this after finding out on insta. I am very upset. Splatoon is such a comfort game and community for me as a queer person, and I want everyone to have a good experience with this community and my favorite game. I hope the public backlash will give courage to bystanders of this behavior, so that they stand up and confront it.
"They have an ulterior motive to be seen as repentant."
God, that sums up the issue with so many apologies in a way I've not heard before. Well said.
That is literally what the guy in the video is doing. Virtue signaling repentant embarrassment.
While it's good that this behavior is being called out now, it took FAR too long for this community to wake up noticing the bad actors or sweeping them under the rug and letting them run loose, causing more problems to harass more innocent people. This situation just clearly shows that the splatoon community isn't as welcoming and supportive as we all say it is.
True some of us (including me back in 2019 when i join) in the community ben noticing that for a very long time and ben calling this out but just keep on sweep under the rug like nothing happened
its always the communities that claim to be welcoming and supportive that end up being the most bigoted...
@@an0bserver2000 that's because the ones with the most welcoming people also tend to be, a, the most vulnerable with the greatest vulnerable population, and b, the easiest to hide in and make yourself seem like a paragon when you're anything but. truly sad.
I still think the Splatoon community is a very good one in contrast to other competitive games, but of course, that's not good enough and this kind of behavior NEEDS to be reported on as well as taken seriously much faster than it has been. I first found out about Jackpot being awful a few days ago and I have no clue how they managed to keep it from the general fanbase for so long.
Thank you sir for speaking up against racist remarks in the splatoon community and pointing out the utter hypocrisy of people claiming to be against hate but spreading hate and racist remark twoard people of color
i’m black and i don’t care speak for yourself
@@00demon.Since when this comment has to do with black people specifically i was talking about dark asia,black,and latino,and people who are mix
@@coffee_2234 i’m talking more of i don’t get how people who aren’t minorities are discussing how we should feel cuz our life experiences happen to be different
@@00demon. ok? So just because you don’t care,no one else does? What’s the point of this comment exactly
@@yaya6195 nah you have to be dumb if you don’t get my point. i’m saying ion care so why are you speaking for us, if one of us cares they should speak up not sum random white people.
Thank you for bringing this up. I just had to drop some friends because they kept saying racist jokes. I’m African American and they kept calling me a monkey when I would do bad in games. I let it slide for too long and I regret it, now there blocked and I moved on with my life. People are too comfortable with joking like that. It’s not funny and it will never be funny
I'm so sorry anyone felt like it was okay to treat you, their friend, that way 😩
It's hilarious and your friends sound like good guys. They shouldn't be hanging out with people like you for that matter.
@@InkyBlitz Least obvious ragebait:
@@strawberrymilk607 Your face when I am 100% unironic.
:O
We need to be more harsh on racism. People online nowadays are way too comfortable being racist.
Maybe my internet exposure is a bit too limited to say anything (I haven't had twitter for the past year or so and have rarely touched traditional social media), but it feels less that too many people are comfortable being racist, but more people letting it happen, like Gem said. It's difficult to change someone who is racist, yeah, but outright ignoring them or letting it slide might be more disgusting than the racism itself. By letting it exist, you're practically racist yourself by deciding that such a bad act of humanity is completely fine.
@@squiddu Well said. Reminds me of how vtuber fans act especially towards POC vtubers or models, literally last week people threw a tantrum over a one-sided sob story and threatened two women with death threats and racist comment away from streaming entirely just because they made a single comment about how they didn't like someone's character that much... on a vtuber Design Tierlist stream.
@@squiddu True, but I could also argue umbreonfan's point that people are getting more comfortable being racist... asterisk.
I think generally speaking most people aren't racist, but far right fascism has been on the rise across many countries these days, America isn't the only place dealing with it right now, and the small minority of outright racists tend to use the anonymity of the internet to their advantage to say the stuff they wouldn't dare irl. As you mentioned, add to that people who aren't so quick to cut racism out of their communities, or if the mods themselves support racist behavior, and account for new members of those communities who might not be aware of the racist dogwhistles but it's seemed in the community culture and it gets absorbed gradually by association, the language they use, "just jokes", etc., and all those compounding factors can lead to an impression racism is becoming a bigger problem in online and gaming spaces, and in some cases it does breed more people feeling okay to be racist. Ignoring racist behavior signals to racists they'll be safe in those communities.
That said, I think gaming in general hasn't had a great history of standing by minorities in their space, and it's good we're moving in the direction of supporting marginalized identities and having these conversations. That said, if and as gaming moves towards becoming a more inclusive space, the bigots who previously found shelter will suddenly feel (rightfully) attacked and go to more extreme lengths and rhetoric to protect "their" space, which in the short term can expose a lot of rot and make a community look like it's gotten a lot worse before it starts to look better.
@@squiddu yeah, that's what I mean being harsher is not let people get away with it and continue on.
I lived in a very dangerous state until recently and I can say it’s not the internet. Moving here was like night and day for hearing casual racist remarks (I am white btw) people are just too comfortable being assholes in real life some places
as a poc i just wanna say that jackpot wasn’t necessarily my idol, but i did follow them for a while, and to see them do this is so sad. people forgive too quickly, and yeah, people grow and all, but this was so recent, and the half-assed apologies excluding the one from ren, (which was a good apology) madness acting like it never happened, chara being racist before (he’s obviously grown outta that now), it’s all just unwelcoming. i’m not gonna leave the community, i don’t think anyone would really care tbh, i’m too addicted for that, but what i will say is that this community isn’t a good environment to be in, personally.
I don't think Chara said that intending to be racist. He was unaware it was a slur.
@@Aego384 oh my bad, but still, it’s not right.
@@giggymuunVery true.
Yeah Chara is Canadian and had little to no social interaction up until that point. He didn’t understand the word at all, so there were 100% no racist intentions at all.
@@HyperLuigi37can we not act like racism doesnt exist in canada
As a Nigerian woman who plays Splatoon, I’m very disappointed with Jackpot. I mainly follow and watch Jared’s streams but to see his racist slurs is shocking but not surprising, sadly. I live in a world where the people you “idolize” and watch online may be completely different in real life. These tweets show who they really are. This just goes to show that the Splatoon Community needs to do better in addressing racism. No more performative activism but ACTUAL change. The fact that we are having this conversation shows the Splatoon community has a long way to go in actually enforcing inclusivity. And it’s honestly sad that we still have these conversations about the racism in 2024 chile. Jared, and the rest of Jackpot, I’m very, very disappointed in you all. We need to do better.
Like I’m actually so tired that we’re still having anti-racism conversations.
i wish i could just play my silly squid game and interact with the community now without being reminded that some people (people i really looked up to) find my race amusing or something to second guess me for. thanks for talking about this Gem. maybe one day
As a black member of the splatoon community, I've been experiencing racism for years. People have directly said to/called me the n-word more times than I can count. While it was never from large members of the community, it still demonstrated a larger sentiment throughout the community.
I'm glad we're finally talking about this, because I and many other poc members of the community have not only been experiencing, but talking about this for years.
why do you lie. there is no voice chat on the switch
@@XJ9sodypopif you download the app you can voice chat. that’s what I’ve heard.
@@XJ9sodypop dude. It was while talking to people on twitter
@@XJ9sodypopmost of us play in servers on discord or other social media platforms. Don't be an asshole, believe victims of abuse. I've personally had to report multiple players for racist names.
@XJ9sodypop ignorance isnt cute
As a marginalised person, I think it is excellent you are speaking out. Yes it’s important to hear from us, but it’s just as meaningful to hear from allies in positions of power. You are using your massive audience for good, and I am incredibly thankful.
I have to agree with that. Being extremely not marginalized myself, it's a big inspiration seeing someone else who could wash their hands of this conflict instead choose to pursue positive change. I've always aspired to have the heart of a hero like that.
As someone that every wealthy organization and political entities panders to (you), you are a liar and doormat aristocrats receive no respect from anyone.
I'm glad you used your platform to not only spread what happened but also turned it into a lesson for us to go along with it 🙏 Much love
This channel is framed like a classroom setting, you were a teacher, and you carry that energy of learning and growing here. You care deeply of issues affecting the community aspect of this game, so I think you _are_ an appropriate voice to talk about the issue. Thank you for being so diligent and willing to tackle these issues with the respect they deserve.
I'm racially white, but spending a lot of my childhood in Japanese schools, I got to experience racism first-hand as the odd one out, especially being the one that social and professional systems are not accomodating to. It's definitely the kind of thing that makes your brain start thinking, "These aren't my people. I don't feel safe. I need out." The last thing we need is for Splatoon, a game so welcoming to a variety of diverse minority communities, to push those people away. And to that effect, it's our job as members of the community to learn how to respect one-another and take these lessons to heart.
All my heart and love to anyone feeling distressed about this situation. You will always have a place here.
Well said
Im glad you emphasized the point of "We are not ruining their lives if we choose to remove them"
With situations like this you get a decent amount of people empathetic towards them because of "youre ruining their chances they have no where to go"
Like literally no?
Empathy has turned to a blight. Too many people trying to look for the best in too many other individuals, that they fail to understand that some people deserve only to have their knees bent backwards.
amen
its likely they might face consequences even beyond splatoon, like when they’re in school or applying to jobs. but that’s the consequences of their actions 🤷♀️
@@WretchedRedorancouldn’t have said it better myself
“You’re ruining their lives!” No they ruined their own life, You can’t say terrible things and then get mad when you face the consequences.
Edit: To everyone that's responding with "listen to all voices," and things along those lines - white voices, and white people's input, are very much already listened to and you know it. It is _not useful_ to say "all voices need to be heard!" in a situation where some people are listened to more than others. White voices do not need uplifting, especially not in matters of racism. White people are not systemically oppressed and silenced based on race.
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It's good that you're using your platform as a way of raising this to the larger community - and it's a reminder to LISTEN TO BLACK VOICES, LISTEN TO ASIAN VOICES, and LISTEN TO OTHER MARGINALISED VOICES. it's all good when people with privilege make waves by bringing awareness to these, but PLEASE listen to/uplift PoC when they're bringing these things to light!!
As an Asian person: please listen to all people. If we start treating people’s opinions unequally because they not in a minority then we are just going to turn racist but in a different way.
So yeah listen to everyone and let’s strive to be better together.
@@arjunbaweja7755 Im Asian too and I agree
@arjunbaweja7755
But truly, white people haven’t had these experiences, so their opinions aren’t very important right now.
I’m Half Black, and yes we should be respecting everyone, no one should be treated differently nor worse than others, we shall all be treated the same.
@@0celot9 You can be discriminated against for reasons other than race.
If anyone wants a more detailed video on this issue, I'd HIGHLY recommend the video from KenKnows. His video goes into much more detail, showing some of the messages that were sent, and is from an actual Black person!
This kinda explains why I've seen more slurs in the splat post yesterday. Zero tolerance for racism.
Seriously this treatment is just ridiculous, and like as a black dude WHY is it ALWAYS us?!?! I really hope not just these players but people everywhere can stop treating us as the “joke race” because even in my experience online and offline people will hold their tongue the LEAST for us and it’s so infuriating. Thank you for trying to help I really appreciate it.
Not trying to pull the victim card, but it happens a LOT as an asian too (I’m half-japanese, but applies the same). It’s really easy to disrespect marginalized communities, and it sucks to be targeted especially when people play it off as ‘just a joke’ despite having malicious intent. I personally really enjoy race jokes, but I don’t enjoy racist remarks that make me feel unsafe.
EDIT: wasians try not to mention they’re wasian challenge level: impossible
As a white person, I think that the main reason why certain groups get targeted is because of what people learn at school about history, or prejudice bestowed upon them by their parents. If their parents acted that way, they would too. That doesn't make it ok though, it is still disgusting and horrid to think that people acknowledge this as a "normal" way of acting towards people. It really shits me that people just cannot accept everyone and they just HAVE to be racist. I also hate the fact that white people do not speak up about this, it's really inconsiderate and disrespectful to everyone, making places not feel safe for some people. (Not trying to pull the victim card) But as someone who was constantly bullied every day at school for many, many years, even though its not quite the same thing, I somewhat understand what it feels like to be belittled for certain traits of yourself. It can make places which should be safe, turn into places that aren't.
Sorry if this was really long, I just really wanted to talk about how much I hate this behavior and how unacceptable it is.
When we thought the worst controversy was the splatter screen.
This is why we don't have voice chat in splatoon
This is only somewhat relevant, but here’s how to make a Palestinian flag with locker stickers:
Along the left side of the locker wall, place the Sunken Scroll 06 sticker (upside down so that the crab guy will be covered by one of the later steps) to make the black stripe, then cover the lower half of it with the LH-RTMP sticker for the white stripe (you’ll need to put about half of it off the locker to get the edges aligned), then a PLMI-U sticker for the green stripe, and finally turn an ELDRSQD-I sticker so that it’s swimming to the left and place the body off the locker so the tentacles form the red chevron of the flag. It might take some adjustment to get right, and it’s not the clearest representation, but I’m still pretty proud of myself for coming up with it and I want to share so that others can show solidarity in the same way.
well f-ing said Gem
such a shame how nintendo game communities will probably never beat the weirdo allegations
Well when its all composed of weirdos thats always gonna happen
I'm not entirely sure what you expect when the greater part of the community for Nintendo games are people under 20.
The only one that doesn't have weirdos is Mario Kart of all things. The most drama the community has had was whether or not item bagging should be allowed.
all communities have weirdos. We play games that share a younger fanbase. And many adults see our interests as 'kids games.'
Not to excuse the racism or other such bigotries in the Splatoon or other competitive Nintendo communities, it's right to call it out and we should, but am I the only one feeling like Nintendo communities are being scapegoated a little here? Nintendo games tend to foster a better reputation of inclusivity and diversity due to things like lack of voicechat, whereas a lot of other games these problems often also exist and is more extreme and commonplace, and doesn't get called out. I think gaming communities period tend to have a lot of problems and it'd be really convenient for other communities to paint Nintendo as the "weirdo" group, and wash their hands of looking at and cleaning up their own communities.
I hope Nintendo immediately rids the game of the jackpot content in-game. Absolutely disgusting and embarrassing behaviour. It saddens me that on the rare occasion that Nintendo collaborated with the e-sports scene it had to be under such despicable circumstances
I do wonder if they'll remove it or not. I say that specifically because a lot of the conversation is likely stuck on the English side of the community, since Jackpot is a US team. The main team in Japan may not hear about this for a while, unless people have personally went to them and contacted them about it or they listen to replies on SplatoonJP (which I doubt)
though there is hope in that they were the winning team of a Nintendo-ran world championship, so maybe they just keep more terms on them by default. I can't be certain.
@@squiddu there's already been japenese articles about the situation. however, i doubt nintendo will remove the banner
It's kinda crazy to think about. Splatoon is the most accepting and inclusive community I've ever been a part of. Genuinely the last place I'd expect controversies like this to erupt from.
Honestly? The splatoon comunity, having so many and diverse groups of people, it's probably much subject to this "controversies".
@@alessioprotopapa4709 You know, you've got a point there. Situations re: addressing racism and sexism might be more likely to happen in communities that actually welcomes women, poc, queer people, etc. in the first place. A lot of gaming communities, especially outside of Nintendo, while they don't ban women and poc and queer people per se, the culture and fanbase isn't always super welcoming and the fanbase nor the events give them a lot of reason to assume they're welcome and will be safe or give them an incentive to join and stay.
Any community that grows beyond a certain size will have shitty people, statistically. It's unfortunately still everywhere these days. I like Gem's point about people being comfortable enough in the Splatoon community to speak out about these things being worth focusing on as a good thing. Don't focus too hard on the bad.
Honestly, AAA game communities are kind of inevitably less positive than smaller communities.
If you're looking for a really positive community to be a part of, I'd highly recommend indie game communities (the Celeste community especially)
As much as I love this community, I can often feel like this toxic side of the fanbase wells up every now and then, in subtle ways to fit in with the normal people. When Frye was first revealed for instance, alongside the innocent jokes of Nintendo doubling down on big foreheads after creating Pearl, there was some genuinely offensive shit being said about her that was clearly coming from a place of ignorance.
I just want to say that this video helped me understand why "All lives matter" is fundamentally wrong. I was stuck in a too broad of a mindset, and can see how unempathetic I could have come across. Thank you
This actually sucks man. I sadly cannot say I’m *that* surprised as someone who’s been in a lot of jackpot streams. But damn- I was a big fan of them. That feeling of betrayal still stings everytime.
I can't believe how these people treat POC.
I definitely hate the [forgot proper word for reocurring trend happening] of people normalizing stuff that isn't normal.
For example... From once silly and truly harmless jokes to now physically, verbally and mentally damaging jokes about your [forgot word for place where you come from, your roots, your skin color] and when you voice your disdain for them, all you get is "IT'S JUST A PRANK BRO, DON'T BE A SNOWFLAKE!!" for getting harrassed. That is truly toxic of its own...
How are they mistreating black people who already dealt with slavery in the past?? Can't they just treat us normally?? That's all we ask. I'm truly disgusted that they refer to us as primates, nag about not having the right to say the n-word, which is a PETTY complaint if you compare it to what rights POC are denied.
And don't get me STARTED on people making fun of what they see as negative black stereotypes.
How are they mistreating Asians while THEY MADE THE GAME??
How can they make fun of the tragic Palestine situation?!
This community deserves to have diverse people feel welcomed and embraced for who they are.
Man, woman, LGBT. Black and white, American, African, European, Asian, Oceanian, Antartican, religious or not.
We all deserve respect for who we are!
I'm black IRL and this breaks my heart. This behavior is unacceptable in every, any and all ways possible.
People are quick to forgive the "Free Israel" "joke" when actual victims of genocide may not be alive to hear the apology anymore.
Lol Fanta?
As an Asian Splatoon player, I am really surprised how the SPLATOON community of all, which is very inclusive to all kinds of people, would do this, especially Jackpot, I don't know what to say now. Thank you for making this vid Gem.
I don't know how to talk about this without it being from a personal perspective. I have always been largely isolated, unable to deal with the noise of many people, and do not participate in social media or large online servers. I am white and live in an area where probably less than 1% of the population is black. I have, in the past, tried to tell friends of friends that I'm not comfortable with them using racist language, been treated as a killjoy and oddball for saying it, and left those spaces/dropped contact with those people. I speak out against causally racist speech not because I have black friends I'm thinking of (I have only a tiny number of people I would call friends, and none happen to be black), or any specific role model; I do it because it is necessary to never treat this as normal, or it becomes normal.
Racist phrasing as seen in some of these examples is not generally spoken with the intent of harm; it is usually spoken because it has been internalized as a normal way to speak, and it causes harm as an effect. This means that the defense of "I did not mean to cause someone harm" can be both completely true and utterly worthless to justify it. The only way to stop it is to speak out against it and force people to eliminate their own habits. This also has the effect of calling out behavior that makes someone from a specific race an "other" rather than "a person like me", a mindset that reinforces itself the more such speech is used.
I can only hope that those people who have been speaking like this will take the chance to self-reflect and improve themselves. There really isn't a sufficient way to apologize and undo the immediate damage done towards making community members of all races feel welcome, so only change for the future can make things better. Watching KenKnows' video and seeing how much it bothers him that this goes unaddressed, as he clearly tries to hold back his personal frustration for the sake of maintaining professionalism, should immediately shake people up.
Well said.
There are people on Twitter who have been talking about organizing a charity/tournament/event to show support for the people of color in this community. I hope that something comes out of that, as one of the ways the community should reckon with this whole situation. We should have something to show to affirm a commitment that people marginalized by what has come out from some players should never again have to feel that way while they are here.
@aetheriser and @Squidoku_ are two people I have seen specifically discussing this. My comments trying to link directly to them are not being shown on RUclips right now.
As an hispanic splatoon player, i feel as offended as black and asian people. We are all humans, please respect everyone
Bruh
@@hacob1368 No, he has a point. There's underlying hate in this community. As a Jewish man, I can't really look at lobby posts knowing people support the country that's actively killed and kidnapped my family, my friends, and my brothers-in-arma.
I like the your quote of "hate action but not people". i should keep that in mind for other and to myself.
Here's a better take
"Don't hate: Understand and fix"
Engineers got this one down. If there's a problem, you ought to attempt to understand it completely, then learn not just how to stop it, but how to prevent it.
@@Cool-Vest_Leo maybe i should consider improvise the quote after re-reading and better understanding it.
It shall be "Hate bad action but not the people themself".
I hope this will help us all well to be good person in any community and to second guess ourself before we speak out loud the stuff we'll regret later.
honestly I had no idea that jackpot was doing all this stuff and this is a terrible terrible thing to suddenly hear about
As a black and indigenous person I have a lot of respect for you Gem. Whenever you talk about these issues you always do it the right way, I always get the feeling that you get it. I can't say that about a lot of white people
I hope more people aspire to be as respectful as Gem. I know I do.
Man i saw people asked THE INTEREN HE ain't do anything
The intern lore expands
Gem, I just wanted to say I really appreciate the messages you try and project using your platform. All your channel could’ve been is a channel about a silly squid game, but you’ve said things and explained things unrelated to this game so eloquently and with so much empathy using this platform that I can’t help but have so much respect for you. The things you said in this video are so easily applicable to so many other kinds of situations and I really wish more people saw things the same way you see them. The way people instantly shun people who do wrong, even if deserved, and never let them back into the community and/or spread hate about them is such an unproductive response but it is scarily common, so it is so refreshing to see someone speak about it like this and approach situations like this with so much understanding of everyone involved. Please keep using this platform to keep spreading messages like this, you’re honestly one of my biggest role models.
Aw dangit, seriously jackpot? After achieving such a spotlight and with that the responsibility to be a good example 🤦
An "aw dang it" in general, to everyone still doing this stupid bs in 2024. Catch up already. It's rare that something is an objective truth and they're objectively in the wrong.
Addition: I'm saying "aw dangit" because the real thing I'd like to say isn't allowed on RUclips. I realize it could have come across as taking the situation very lightly. Words can't measure the frustration that that behavior causes.
"This video will not be monetized" See this is why the RUclips ad shit is really fucked up, the started putting ads on unmonetized videos. It would be so crappy of them if they did it to this one
I can't believe in our year of the lord 2024 we are still dealing with this crap on this crappy planet.
people are people and this will always happen somewhere
Great response, but i also agree with others in the comments that it would be good to link some POC responses in the description or community tab to help lift up their voices.
I think a good form of proper repentance would be for them to do charity streams for non-profits fighting against marginalization and oppression of PoC.
I’ve been thinking about Leafi’s apology rationale of “I was 13 back then.” Obviously not an excuse, but that feels just as much a failing on Leafi’s parents. That a 13 year old would not understand the implications of saying that, or worse understanding and doing it anyways, speaks to a major gap in how their parents raised them with regards to understanding the history of race in America. This sends a message to us older players with kids of our own, don’t just assume your kid is a “good one” and will know not to say things like this intrinsically. You have to have conversations with them, no matter how uncomfortable.
Absolutely, too many parents let it slide or think "they should be able to act freely in their own home." The reality is most of them take that as permission and endorsement for their harmful behaviours. I can't help but think that their parents probably hold the same views as well.
Twitter, where the inklings forego their fun and paint-themes weapons in place of the most terrifying weapon of all: verbal assault.
8:18 Thank you for specifying this: i spent the first 18 years of my life as a right-wing conservative mormon, as part of a right-wing conservative mormon family, and had a lot of extremely messed up right-wing beliefs; but when i went out on my own, and was able to chat on social media, i started engaging with people on the left with the *intent* of drawing aggro to prove how angry and irrational they were.
While this might've been my *intent*, i instead encountered rational leftists who carefully(and respectfully) dismantled every one of my arguments, and brought me to question the very foundation of the beliefs i was raised on. I *carefully*(and respectfully)brought this to family members, and got a variety of reactions; but now most of us are no longer mormon, me and most of my siblings are left-wing(especially after realizing we're LGBT), and my mom even helped her friend out of an abusive relationship she was being pushed into by her spouse and church group.
Eventually, i *did* encounter the "rabid leftists" i was warned about; but by that time, i'd seen enough to know they didn't make up the majority, and that there was a *lot* the right wasn't telling me. I don't think this would've happened if i'd encountered the angry irrational type first though.
Ugh i love you and your outlooks on situations so much ❤️
I think taking the ages of these individuals is very interesting and something I’ve been thinking about a lot. Splatoon tends to have a very young player base.
The last part made me realize I need better friends
Good luck on your quest my friend. You deserve companions who respect and value you.
Your take on this was well thought out and important, thank you!
wait a minute, how can you be racist towards Asians in this community when THEY ARE THE ONE THAT MADE THIS GAME
To be specific, it was a jokes towards Chinese people
@@Potato-so6zr Well, then it's not racism. It's called differently, I don't remember what
some people lack those kinds of critical thinking skills, or think that because they're so good they're above the consequences and better than them or something. not the brightest bulbs in the box, clearly, that's *probably* how it happened. Hopefully this activates their critical thinking and they do better, but my faith isn't high.
@@bowser3017 It’s still racism, but I guess you can say it’s xenophobia, because it specifies a certain ethnicity being Chinese people. Also, the game made from Japan.
@@Potato-so6zr It'd be sinophobia specifically
really well said gem, thank you for covering this topic and thanks for the support 🙏🏾
I don't even play competitive splatoon anymore, but I still watch your videos because so much of what you say doesn't just go for funny squid game, but for life in general... thank you for all of your wisdom teacher Gem
I really appreciate you speaking on this matter, Gem, as a black person, it means a lot to me.
After I found out about the situation I was hoping you would make a video since you've shown many times that you have many valuable and important things to say in subjects regarding discrimination and harassment, and you're great at saying this things to the broader Splatoon audience.
Particularly in a community filled with so many young people for many it's the first time many people have "met their heroes", or may also be in situations where they feel like they have to talk in a harmful way to fit in.
This is also suprising to me, because I only play Splatoon in SoloQ and in my friend circle. It's sad to see that this has been an issue for years and I was unaware of it.
I was kind of blindsided by it, it seemed like this came out of nowhere. But, honestly wish the community could have known or acted on this sooner.
i just noticed that you took down the video about the jackpot banner last night and i was wondering if you were going to make a statement about it. i’m really glad you’re using your platform to encourage people to listen to poc’s voices rather than making it about yourself. in my opinion this is a really good statement, thank you gem :)
For what its worth - I think I've made a lot of good contacts and genuine friends in this scene, way more then I'd expect in others - I'm not part of the group primarily affected but I'm definintly not a majority either(transgal gang) and while this *upsets me* a lot, I'm hopefully optimistic in the long term, we as a community will be able to self evaluate, reflect, and move on, in a more positive light.
I appreciate you and this video. Keep up the good work!
hey gem, could you post kenknows's video about the situation on your community tab and/or video description? hes a black man and as you said its important to listen to bipoc in the community
Thank you for making this video Gem. I found out about all this Tuesday night during your stream and immediately stopped using the Jackpot banner. Despicable and sad. The splatoon community is one of the most accepting and inclusive online multiplayer shooter I know of ):
At the end, we don't know what will happen, if Nintendo decides to make stricter rules or not invite them again to any championship
All could have been avoided if some self control and thinking was made
absolutely amazing take on the matter, as a POC i really appreciate this. :)
its not fair to use your platform like this (the players not squid school). no one should be ignored, unheared or abused because of the circumstances of their birth, and because of factors they cannot control, doing such is creulty. i hope the splatoon community can remain a safe and inclusive place going forward. thank you for always advocating for inclusivity.
Really great Video! Thank you for speaking out on this!! I'm glad you did.
Thanks for speaking out on this.
its sad that more creators haven't spoken out on youtube like this
As a neurodivergent person, so many gaming platforms feel unwelcome because of the use of slurs so blatantly and openly. Splatoon always felt safe to me from just how open and happy the community felt. I had no idea racism would be anywhere present in a community where I felt welcomed (I am a white person). It’s unfair to cherry-pick who is welcome and respected in the community and who isn’t. Everyone deserves respect and it’s terrible that someone like me gets this in the community without having to ask for it while others don’t.
3:49 "People of color in the community deserve respect. Because I just said that, there may be some people who want to jump in and say, 'All people deserve respect,' and that is an unacceptable response. I have never been called a racial slur by anyone in real life or online, ever. This is a problem that specifically affects people of color. Yes, obviously, everyone deserves respect, but the reason we're saying what we're saying right now is that some people are getting that respect and others aren't. This knee-jerk reaction of 'all lives matter' is fundamentally based on the premise that the disrespect is currently targeted equally at everyone, and that's objectively untrue. It's specifically people of color that are being mistreated more than others."
This guy gets it. I wish I could link directly to this response every time I see yet another "all lives matter" remark.
Beautifully said
A general rule of thumb we all should have learned in kindergarten: “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” Why do people gotta be this way? Why do people find the racism funny enough to joke about it all the time? Why do people gotta be stupid enough to even make those sorts of comments in the first place? And why in this particular instance when Nintendo is watching? These are the kinds of reasons why we don’t get nice things.
I would appreciate some pertinant links to read as someone who is not tapped into the wider sphere of Splatoon
Gem knows what's up on and off the court.
The disgusting irony of fans of a game where 2 different species literally tried to genocide each other, yet now go around with no signs of hatred between each other, being horrifically racist to black and Asian players OF THE SAME GAME is just sad
this also makes the "free israel" jokes even more unsavory.
i guess my issue is that we let jackpot get away with it for far too long before we finally got them.
I saw this video when I checked my RUclips subs in between turf war matches with a player named Jackpot😮
(Turns out you are talking about a team, but the title sure got my attention)
Thanks, Gem
It makes me so mad that people act like this. I don't understand how other people don't understand how to be kind to people who are different. It's not that hard to not say hurtful things. I don't think it's difficult to accept people's differences or to apologize if you hurt or offend someone.
"But as I observed your evolution, I was DISGUSTED. You wage war over minor genetic deviations." -Tartar
And right now, I AM disgusted with the way people are. Do people really think that appearances make a difference? It feels like I'm back in kindergarten, when kids were separating into groups, dividing people because they thought a hair color or eye color or gender was superior. No one's superior to anyone, and the only people who are inferiors are people who can't understand that appearances shouldn't matter.
guess many humans still have shortcomings tartar would've been blind to, huh?
Appreciate you taking a strong stance on this. You're a great voice in the community.
not the fucking nijisanji black thumbnail! in all seriousness when I first heard about this information from kenknows/negus's recount of the situation. my mouth was fucking AGHAST it was locked wide open in shock. I don't even care about jackpot and lowkey forgot about them, but that did not change how much this situation left me in shock. and for the remaining player/ team leader who had to hear about all this, and disband the team? I salute to you for being the bigger person
Even Captain Cuttlefish has grown.... just took him a while.
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Thank you for your voice Gem!
One can deduce that you are a teacher, you spoke about all this greatly. Major kudos to you for using your platform to talk about this. I hope we come out a stronger and safer community out of this. Be radical and listen to black and asian people my friends!
Even as a PoC, I still don't really feel comfortable giving my opinion on what consequences Jackpot should face, and obviously I am of the opinion that what they said is unacceptable. One thing I will say though is that, truthfully, to understand the true severity of the situation and to be able to construct any kind of informed opinion one really needs to just see the evidence for themselves. Just searching up "Splatoon Jackpot Situation" will get you some links that can lead to both the twitter thread and an imgur link to the exact words used by Jackpot, but be warned that it is pretty intense. Way, way worse than I thought it'd be at the very least.
And now Nintendo will support even less the competitive community when we just got some recognition
That's probably true but it's the least of our concern right now. We should probably focus on fixing our toxic community.
Hell yeah. Great video, Gem.
I’ve had similar thinking to gem in this video. And part of that is because I have developed as a side effect of how I was raised to have that ‘bartender’ mindset and it naturally makes me try to dig deeper into someone’s mentality. And even if I would hate someone like jackpot or the angriest splatoon player. I would NEVER feel complete hate for that person regardless of their past. (Unless if they are threatening someone’s lifestyle)
Omg you grew your hair it looks amazing
Amazingly well said, we should stand up for each other when help is needed, and we should boycott bad actions
I think something like this happens to every major community at some point in its history.
I’m getting so tired of stuff like this happening…
“Big Betrayal” would be a pretty fitting description of this situation
I have been playing splatoon for about 2 or 4 years now Splatoon 2 was my introduction to the franchise where I met my friends and ya know Squid School I don’t have Twitter I stay away from social media sites like that only discord and RUclips I have and I recently watched Kenknows because I wanted to know out what was going on. I’m a POC and I was speechless from the comments and videos I saw of Jackpot I honestly don’t know what to say the Splatoon community is so welcoming and I only had like one bad experience in it but I didn’t think a well known team would do this I just hope they grew and rethink their actions. Call me gullible because I’m a forgiving person tho I am curious on what the other POC splatoon players think of this situation.
thank you.
I agree, and don't really have anything of matter to say that wasn't said already.
Something that i do wanna say but is about me and thus irrelevant to the situation;
I am more sensitive with some of these topics, and i struggle with these issues being talked everywhere. Yes, they must be talked about, but all my "safe space"s are filled to the brim with discussion about these topics, and i have nowhere to retreat to when topics get uncomfortable.
Thank you for finally speaking up about this situation and I’m sorry I called you a coward I was just really angry at the whole thing