It just BLOWS my mind that companies are constantly trying again on 1-10s and refuse to put new 2-12s on the market for whatever reason. Like we STILL only have like 2-3 viable mvpo choices years later.
Yeah 1-10 is where things start to actually break for sure. You can push the limits with 1-8 and not run into any real problems, but 1-10 is just too much as things (physics, I guess) are now.
Nightforce needs to make a 2-10/3-12 with the FC-DMx reticle. ~32 mm objective, parrallax adjustment, push locking elevation turret, and capped windage. 20-23oz.
I have mpvo on most my guns but doing 2 gun competitions the last few months has really made me want a decent 1-6. Those close paper targets are hard to transition with just the scope.
I’m hoping Vortex will come out with a pst Gen 3 with locking turrets. Maybe a lighter weight too, but it’s vortex. We have to manage our expectations.
They're really only meant to be used with the flash hiders. The SF brake and Warcomps port carbon straight into the bearing surfaces, and immediately lock everything up. Loctite LB 8070 anti-seize has been a miracle for keeping all my cans from locking onto the adapters. Highly recommend it, especially for SF cans.
Keeping a 1X on a higher mag scope is always going to be a compromise until they perfect digital optics. I'm leaning towards using a 1-6X with a damn good 1X and a simple BDC for general purpose use, and something purpose built for a dedicated precision rifle. Atacr 4-16X, Leupold 3-18X, something in that range. You can always slap on an offset red dot to compensate for the lack of a true 1X, that's probably better than gimping your higher magnification performance for a shoddy 1X.
Just another video showing 2-12 is the true spr optic master race. A highly visible Reticle at 1x on the bottom end is just too much of a compromise for having a usable Reticle on the top end. Either the 1x works well or the max works well, can't really have both unless you do the dual focal plane thing. 2x min magnification allows you to have a small but still very visible Reticle and 12x can still be thin enough to make precise shots. Plus you get the benefit of having a larger objective lense so you have a brighter image for longer, and you get the larger exit pupil.
@@KingdomKillaz117 same. It absolutely fucks. They knocked it out of the park in terms of Reticle design. Only complaint is I wish the ranging feature was for humans and not deer but you can kinda force it to work. Also if the elevation turret was slightly shorter so that a piggyback rds would have a completely unobstructed sight picture
Delta Stryker, Eotech Vudu, Vortex Razor, Athlon Cronus, Zeiss S3, Tract and others are all made at the same factory in Japan (Light Optical Works). All are great scopes, youre just paying for different warranties and preferred features
Watched your uspr video and built my own 14.5 Geissele upper with a vortex viper 1-6 and while it isn’t a mpvo like your vid I tried 55gr 223 I was able to get a 2nd round hit at 450yard on a 10in plate off a bipod sitting on some rocks. Have a lot of the aac 77gr otm like that video to get dope and make use of the mill hash marks. A huge fan of the pst since I couldnt afford a plxc at just over 3x the cost and I wanted a mill which for the plx is back order only. Love all your videos!
This would be a really good scope for Quantified Performance matches, it still has the 1x so it gets around the 8.5x rule. I am always watching Jimmy B's QP vids and he's got that LPVO cranked to the max and his scope cam the targets are just in the mud. I know some of that is an artifact of where he has his scope cam focused, but it's really hard to get over how bad the downrange image quality is. Optics are always going to be one of those places where features are going to drive demand and price, it's interesting where features are starting to catch up with price.
yeah this is a excellent scope for that type of shooting. But I'd argue shooting matches very often do not stress optics clarity since targets are all often just bright white. It's hilarious to do mid range 200-300 yard matches and all of the people with shit magnifiers just time out because they can't see the target in the shade
@@BrassFacts the last QP match I shot, many of the targets were pretty beat up near the end, and determining the color and range was hard even with my 4-14. Some people didn't go for the 800ish target. Given the wind it was a nearly impossible shot for 556. Even a 6.5cm would be tough.
My dude Brass needs to get a job for a firearms/optics company or at least consult. Make that money and provide so valuable insight from a shooters perspective
"so the border is guarded by like people with machineguns, but then the wind blows..." Are you guys talking about The Abhorsen Trilogy? Because that's what it sounds like, and I absolutely love that series!
hey brass just a heads up, "Penultimate" doesn't mean "most ultimate." it actually means "the second to last thing in a series of things." // the more you know // *sparkle sparkle*
Hey brass facts could you please do a video case study on social unrest in south Africa in which you include the KZN Zuma riots ,the economic collapse, the EFF rising to power and calling for genocide as well as the whole farm murders situation. I'd really appreciate it and I think it is also increasely relevant given the way the US is going. Your fan from South Africa Daani
maybe. I'm embarrassingly only minorly keeping up to date with stuff there this last 2 years. This channel has done a number on my current events tracking.
I've been able to mess with a bunch of LPVOs since I started a job involving guns and being the only pawn shop near the closest range in the state past 100 yards. There's a lot of trash lpvos that I've heard good things about and are highly rated but leaves me wanting in several ways. I went with a swampfox 1-10x arrowhead, it's better than a decent amount of comparable big names but is just passable. I wish there was an RTings but for scopes and maybe the industry would improve instead of a decent amount of "influencers" shilling or not really being well said or planned. Long winded way of saying thank you. Also i do plane on making a parpdy channel because my dog is just a shorter haired nova and almost acts the same
Did you use 10x for sight and target acquisition and dial it down to 8x maybe at 800 yards that extra 2x is not a whole lot. I found that myself with 3,4,5k scopes for long range also gong from 36 to 24x for example because it can be annoying shooting for long periods of time without being able to move at all because of the exit pupil issue at the max end.
I almost think this scope is meant for a 3gun rifle. Some place for 3gun are big on the distance portions. One major match I shot had 6/8 stages where you shot past 200+ and 5/6 of those stages had targets at 500.
@@BrassFactsEveryone wants to see the comparison with the March SHORTY 1-10, but I want to see a comparison/review of the lesser talked about March COMPACT 1-10. On paper it seems like the best execution of this magnification range at least. It has a slightly wider (~10%) field of view angle, which theoretically should help out with the eyebox. It sticks to just Second Focal Plane, instead of their more complex Dual Focal Plane, so it's "only" $600 more than the PLX-C. If I were considering this or the PLX-C in the Nova SFP reticle that's launching soon, it would be a tough decision. Again, all theoretical because everyone is only interested in the Shorty and there's almost no reviews of the Compact.
Maybe you have answered this before, but if I wanted a variable magnification scope and all I cared about was it has variable magnification and its low-end magnification works as close to a red dot as possible on normal range trips, what would you recommend? No consideration for weight, price, high end magnification capability (4, 6, 8, 10), NV capability, adjustability, durability, reticle options, illumination, parallax adjustment, or even the lowest end magnification being a perfect 1x. All I care about are those two factors with no other "it depends". I know I'm pretty much asking "Which of these Gas guzzling off road SUVs is the best at cruising through a mall parking lot" but great low-end magnification capability with a variability option is what I care about most. And I do not want an ACOG with a red dot or a red dot with a magnifier
So this is like a scope for a sgpr? The special general purpose rifle? A rifle that is meant for purposes that are slightly general but decidedly more capable where the special ones are concerned?
I've been rocking the March 1.5-15 Dual Focal Plane for a while now, I think it is a super compelling scope for the DMR role. I'm curious if other companies will attempt that magnification range as well.
Basically everything that is not made in China or in actual German speaking countries (i.e. top end model lines from Zeiss, S&B, Swarovski, top end Kahles, etc) is made by LOW (Light Optical Works) in Japan. (Yeah, ok, there is IOR and Meopta, but still) Almost all higher end optics that do not have "Made in Germany" or "Made in Austria" on them are made by LOW. The weird overpriced Trijicons like the 'TARS', PA Platinum series, Vortex Razors, Athlon Chronus, the most expensive Sig Sauer optics, Eotech Vudus, all of them, the lot of it, by all the brands, is made at the same place in Japan. That is why they all look similar and have similar features and performance. What sets Delta apart is that they tend to deliver better designed (albeit not perfect) products at a significantly lower price than the other LOW made products that other brands put their brands on.
I swear Hop and I had the same childhood. First his Marathon references in his old channel name and then I hear him talking about the Garth Nix's books.
shorty? I assume you mean the March? Because i don't think it's actually a good scope. Like even kinda. But I guess one day I'll need to buy one to make my point.
@@BrassFacts I could see it maybe being useful if I was in an environment like yours but the vegetation is way too dense where I'm at and I end up not even using the 6x 98% of the time
Check out the SuperSetCA best lpvos video. Delta/credo have top tier japanese glass, the credo has a reticle you can actually use without illum, but both of the fiber models of these are very bright, and are lightweight. Credo vs pst the credo wins out all day, its such a pleasant optic. The reason i mention both these optics is that theres a lot of theorizing that they’re the same oem and glass
I would recommend it, I have it on a 13.9 and it's a wonderfully made scope with great glass. You wouldn't be disappointed . The darn fine shot guy that sells them is awesome to deal with . Good luck
I guess im glad I went with the ATACR but was having buyers remorse thinking their duel focal plane was superior. Will you do a video on the new Credo 1-10?
I’m learning trumpet and I wish someone like you would teach me a different type of brass facts… I’m boutta just fuck around with it cause those videos are so goddamned boring and I end up right back here where I started.
Since 1-10 is the extreme in an LPVO where it begins to stretch itself thin since physics is a fickle mistress, will you do a review on the opposite end of the spectrum? Swampfox came out with their tomahawk 2 1-4x LPVO, and marketed it with an emphasis on it being the most forgiving 1x they have engineered, or something to that effect. People will be dying to know if this is an option that brings that near-red dot performance the trijicon TR24 is known for with a side of magnification while costing less than 500 bucks the way the stiener p4xi used to. I'm of the opinion that viable red-dot-analogue-LPVOs as you call them is a small neglected category with few options thanks in part to feature creep, and a push for more magnification than most civilians will ever need.
I still find the bottom wind holds on the tree of most scopes rediculous. Who is using 7-10 mil wind holds? Unless you're shooting in 50 mph winds or 25 mph winds at say 2500 yards, 99% of users will never use these dots and therefore they're practically useless and should be removed.
well that's my big issue with 1-10x LPVOs, they demand a huge objective, but huge objectives majorly fuck up 1x performance (see all of the >30mm objective LPVOs)
IMO, that's not LPVO anymore. LPVO has to have main focus on 1x and needs to be fast. If you need 10x magnification and parallax setting, you don't need LPVO.
Meh. I still rock a prism. While everyone else is arguing about the ideal magnification range, and what looks cool on MyFace and Instatwat, I'm ringing steel, and standing in the mirror practicing my catch phrase for when I rescue my 36EEE-24-34 25 year old nymphomaniacal, orally fixated, super bikini model from the zombie horde....
I got an ad for cat chiropractic services before your video. It was more than a minute of a dude cracking cats
It's a crazy world we're livin' in......
I got a cat grooming ad as i was reading your comment lol
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It just BLOWS my mind that companies are constantly trying again on 1-10s and refuse to put new 2-12s on the market for whatever reason. Like we STILL only have like 2-3 viable mvpo choices years later.
I wish they'd make a 2-10 ffp razor.
Yeah 1-10 is where things start to actually break for sure. You can push the limits with 1-8 and not run into any real problems, but 1-10 is just too much as things (physics, I guess) are now.
indeed, that was my hill I died on last year.
Nightforce needs to make a 2-10/3-12 with the FC-DMx reticle. ~32 mm objective, parrallax adjustment, push locking elevation turret, and capped windage. 20-23oz.
Check out the Steiner H6xi when the mil reticle version comes out. It looks promising.
Me? I don't use optics, hell, I don't even use irons. If you can't point shoot at 600 yards, you're not gonna make it.
The trick is to hold your rifle sideways, and install a glock switch, 19% of the time, it works everytime
@@HHenry-tt1ofjust be black
Trench Garande energy 😂
No aiming apparatus needed. Thoughts and prayers usually do the trick...
Shtf is made up
Bored at work, open youtube, Brassfacts has a new video as of 4 minutes ago 😎
just for you.
MPVO for life
I refuse to be swayed
we must increase the bullying.
I have mpvo on most my guns but doing 2 gun competitions the last few months has really made me want a decent 1-6. Those close paper targets are hard to transition with just the scope.
@@BrassFacts jokes on you, I like it
@@JNOSNOW that's what the Piggyback dot is for
I’m hoping Vortex will come out with a pst Gen 3 with locking turrets. Maybe a lighter weight too, but it’s vortex. We have to manage our expectations.
Struggling to remove a stuck RC2 is a universal experience for surefire suppressor owners
It's the most fun when you need to take it off somewhere you can't shoot it off.
Get a cheap harbor freight dead blow poly hammer, keep it with your range gear. Percussive impact can do wonders with things that are stuck.
They're really only meant to be used with the flash hiders.
The SF brake and Warcomps port carbon straight into the bearing surfaces, and immediately lock everything up.
Loctite LB 8070 anti-seize has been a miracle for keeping all my cans from locking onto the adapters.
Highly recommend it, especially for SF cans.
@@spookybreakfastso that’s why I’ve never had this issue with my RC2. I’ve only shot it with the flash hiders
@@spookybreakfast I always thought the Warcomp was gimmicky. Didn't know the brakes were just as bad.
It is in fact made in the exact same factory in Japan as the Vudu. Light optical works
Appreciate the justification of UTG, Monstrum and Firefield acquisitions. 😎👍
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Keeping a 1X on a higher mag scope is always going to be a compromise until they perfect digital optics. I'm leaning towards using a 1-6X with a damn good 1X and a simple BDC for general purpose use, and something purpose built for a dedicated precision rifle. Atacr 4-16X, Leupold 3-18X, something in that range. You can always slap on an offset red dot to compensate for the lack of a true 1X, that's probably better than gimping your higher magnification performance for a shoddy 1X.
Any day breadass uploads is a good day
Just another video showing 2-12 is the true spr optic master race. A highly visible Reticle at 1x on the bottom end is just too much of a compromise for having a usable Reticle on the top end. Either the 1x works well or the max works well, can't really have both unless you do the dual focal plane thing. 2x min magnification allows you to have a small but still very visible Reticle and 12x can still be thin enough to make precise shots. Plus you get the benefit of having a larger objective lense so you have a brighter image for longer, and you get the larger exit pupil.
Exactly. LPVOs are great at 1-4 or 1-6. Any higher and it starts to fall apart because it’s trying to be something it’s not.
I love my Helos
@@KingdomKillaz117 same. It absolutely fucks. They knocked it out of the park in terms of Reticle design. Only complaint is I wish the ranging feature was for humans and not deer but you can kinda force it to work. Also if the elevation turret was slightly shorter so that a piggyback rds would have a completely unobstructed sight picture
Or just 3 - 15x with a red dot on top.
There are no really good tactical style 3 - 15 x 42 or so designs on the market though.
Delta Stryker, Eotech Vudu, Vortex Razor, Athlon Cronus, Zeiss S3, Tract and others are all made at the same factory in Japan (Light Optical Works). All are great scopes, youre just paying for different warranties and preferred features
Night Force is the only first focal plane that does their reticle right
Watched your uspr video and built my own 14.5 Geissele upper with a vortex viper 1-6 and while it isn’t a mpvo like your vid I tried 55gr 223 I was able to get a 2nd round hit at 450yard on a 10in plate off a bipod sitting on some rocks. Have a lot of the aac 77gr otm like that video to get dope and make use of the mill hash marks. A huge fan of the pst since I couldnt afford a plxc at just over 3x the cost and I wanted a mill which for the plx is back order only. Love all your videos!
The Athlon 2-12 has a mil reticle, supposedly phillipino glass, and is under 500, would definitely recommend looking into it
You are slowly morphing to look like Tiborasaurus Rex 😎
His transformation will be complete once he puts on 80lbs. and starts talking about the Nephilim.
Lmao soon his transformation will be complete we just need vlogs about the woke agenda recorded while driving
This would be a really good scope for Quantified Performance matches, it still has the 1x so it gets around the 8.5x rule. I am always watching Jimmy B's QP vids and he's got that LPVO cranked to the max and his scope cam the targets are just in the mud. I know some of that is an artifact of where he has his scope cam focused, but it's really hard to get over how bad the downrange image quality is. Optics are always going to be one of those places where features are going to drive demand and price, it's interesting where features are starting to catch up with price.
yeah this is a excellent scope for that type of shooting.
But I'd argue shooting matches very often do not stress optics clarity since targets are all often just bright white.
It's hilarious to do mid range 200-300 yard matches and all of the people with shit magnifiers just time out because they can't see the target in the shade
@@BrassFacts the last QP match I shot, many of the targets were pretty beat up near the end, and determining the color and range was hard even with my 4-14. Some people didn't go for the 800ish target. Given the wind it was a nearly impossible shot for 556. Even a 6.5cm would be tough.
I'm honestly impressed with the 1x performance despite it's drawbacks.
My dude Brass needs to get a job for a firearms/optics company or at least consult. Make that money and provide so valuable insight from a shooters perspective
As a fellow Utahn, big fan of your videos!
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"so the border is guarded by like people with machineguns, but then the wind blows..."
Are you guys talking about The Abhorsen Trilogy? Because that's what it sounds like, and I absolutely love that series!
The delta stryker 1-6 SFP is definitely worth a look as a standard LPVO
Have you done a video on the March F Shorty 1-10x? Super compact, parallax adjustment and dual focal plane design
PLXc sfp with nova nuclear bright reticle and a parallax adjust.
I’d be interested to see what you think of the newest Kahles 1-8.
hey brass just a heads up, "Penultimate" doesn't mean "most ultimate." it actually means "the second to last thing in a series of things." // the more you know // *sparkle sparkle*
BrassFacts Friday whoop whoop
The delta stryker 3-21 is the review we need brass.
Would love to hear your take on the Kahles K16i. I found a used one for a good price but I need the Brass Facts on it first
That eyebox tho.. I'll stick with the vortex razor. Thanks for the vid bfacts, well executed.
Hey brass facts could you please do a video case study on social unrest in south Africa in which you include the KZN Zuma riots ,the economic collapse, the EFF rising to power and calling for genocide as well as the whole farm murders situation.
I'd really appreciate it and I think it is also increasely relevant given the way the US is going.
Your fan from South Africa
Daani
maybe. I'm embarrassingly only minorly keeping up to date with stuff there this last 2 years. This channel has done a number on my current events tracking.
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I've been able to mess with a bunch of LPVOs since I started a job involving guns and being the only pawn shop near the closest range in the state past 100 yards.
There's a lot of trash lpvos that I've heard good things about and are highly rated but leaves me wanting in several ways. I went with a swampfox 1-10x arrowhead, it's better than a decent amount of comparable big names but is just passable.
I wish there was an RTings but for scopes and maybe the industry would improve instead of a decent amount of "influencers" shilling or not really being well said or planned.
Long winded way of saying thank you. Also i do plane on making a parpdy channel because my dog is just a shorter haired nova and almost acts the same
Brassfacts Friday 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Did you use 10x for sight and target acquisition and dial it down to 8x maybe at 800 yards that extra 2x is not a whole lot. I found that myself with 3,4,5k scopes for long range also gong from 36 to 24x for example because it can be annoying shooting for long periods of time without being able to move at all because of the exit pupil issue at the max end.
I almost think this scope is meant for a 3gun rifle. Some place for 3gun are big on the distance portions. One major match I shot had 6/8 stages where you shot past 200+ and 5/6 of those stages had targets at 500.
Ta55 gang for life 😤
So were going back to hunting scopes. Just add a bigger objective and cut tube size to save on weight.
I really don’t understand how this is any better than the march 1-10
It's avaliable in MOA.
It has a bigger objective, 28 vs 24 mm
the march 1-10 is not that good. it has a hellish eyebox, is priced to insanity
@@BrassFactsEveryone wants to see the comparison with the March SHORTY 1-10, but I want to see a comparison/review of the lesser talked about March COMPACT 1-10. On paper it seems like the best execution of this magnification range at least. It has a slightly wider (~10%) field of view angle, which theoretically should help out with the eyebox. It sticks to just Second Focal Plane, instead of their more complex Dual Focal Plane, so it's "only" $600 more than the PLX-C. If I were considering this or the PLX-C in the Nova SFP reticle that's launching soon, it would be a tough decision. Again, all theoretical because everyone is only interested in the Shorty and there's almost no reviews of the Compact.
Atibal has had parallax on their 1-12 Medium range scope for several years now!
yeah but atibal is... weird. I suspect they are C&D negative reviewers, which is why I don't think you see many Atibal reviews.
@@BrassFacts what does that mean?
Maybe you have answered this before, but if I wanted a variable magnification scope and all I cared about was it has variable magnification and its low-end magnification works as close to a red dot as possible on normal range trips, what would you recommend? No consideration for weight, price, high end magnification capability (4, 6, 8, 10), NV capability, adjustability, durability, reticle options, illumination, parallax adjustment, or even the lowest end magnification being a perfect 1x. All I care about are those two factors with no other "it depends". I know I'm pretty much asking "Which of these Gas guzzling off road SUVs is the best at cruising through a mall parking lot" but great low-end magnification capability with a variability option is what I care about most. And I do not want an ACOG with a red dot or a red dot with a magnifier
So this is like a scope for a sgpr? The special general purpose rifle? A rifle that is meant for purposes that are slightly general but decidedly more capable where the special ones are concerned?
High mag for the win. 5-35x everything.
Gotta love Fridays 🎉
6:33 Wow... that transition messed with my head. My dumb ass was expecting to see the round hit the building.
Fellow lefty here, have you ever used an AR platform with a slick-sided upper? If so, how'd you deal with brass ejection?
I've been rocking the March 1.5-15 Dual Focal Plane for a while now, I think it is a super compelling scope for the DMR role. I'm curious if other companies will attempt that magnification range as well.
Is the 1.5x useable in close quarters?
MSRP?
@@KingdomKillaz117 a cool $3000
Waited for this video since last Friday 😡😡
Lol. Its so addictive.
Basically everything that is not made in China or in actual German speaking countries (i.e. top end model lines from Zeiss, S&B, Swarovski, top end Kahles, etc) is made by LOW (Light Optical Works) in Japan. (Yeah, ok, there is IOR and Meopta, but still) Almost all higher end optics that do not have "Made in Germany" or "Made in Austria" on them are made by LOW. The weird overpriced Trijicons like the 'TARS', PA Platinum series, Vortex Razors, Athlon Chronus, the most expensive Sig Sauer optics, Eotech Vudus, all of them, the lot of it, by all the brands, is made at the same place in Japan. That is why they all look similar and have similar features and performance.
What sets Delta apart is that they tend to deliver better designed (albeit not perfect) products at a significantly lower price than the other LOW made products that other brands put their brands on.
I swear Hop and I had the same childhood. First his Marathon references in his old channel name and then I hear him talking about the Garth Nix's books.
Then we also had the same childhood
At what distance do you think this starts to slightly out-pace the PLXc?
hard to say, 400-500? really depends on the day, mirage and such
I keep going back and forth and can’t stick to a choice. Do I go plx-c or gl-x on a 14.5.
Any chance you’ll review any March optics in the future?
I would love to hear your opinions on the nightforce NX8 2.5-20
I'm waiting for 1 to 15 scope from primary arms.
IT'S Friday!!!! And it's autistic scope day.
The haircut is giving off serious "Brahk" vibes. Im telling Hop.
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Friend bougth 1-6x Stryker. Its a Razor. Thats good
The 1-6 Stryker is a hidden gem and imo one of the best budget 1-6 you're likely to find.
1-8 seems to be the sweet spot for lpvos.
I'd argue it's 1-6x, but 1-8 is a okay compromise.
@@BrassFacts Now I want to try a 1-7x.
That price is up there.....Tell me why not the Shorty VS Stryker,?
shorty? I assume you mean the March?
Because i don't think it's actually a good scope. Like even kinda. But I guess one day I'll need to buy one to make my point.
How does BrassFacts manage to look on the outside how I feel inside
age
@@BrassFacts sands of time erode all. (High lead content in the blood prob doesn’t help either)
So what if the focal range was 1x - 8x with adjustable parallax?
Would the 1x be better with that design?
not always, but probably.
I mean it looks nice, but for the $$$, I’ll just stick to my PA 1-10x griffin mil even if it’s a 2nd focal plane 😅
Would be interesting to see you and hop go to town on the gen 3 razor. May not be worth buying just for a review which is understandable.
we've all owned one, but that was sorta the hit before our channels were created. It's a good scope.
@@BrassFacts dang timing. Thanks anyways. You guys have by far, the best channels btw. Keep it up man.
Is Hop talking about GATE?
Brock, have you thought about taking a second mortgage to review the Atacr 1-8? (Validate my purchase please 😂)
no, I think the scope is fine. But it's old and it's been done.
@@BrassFacts fair enough. It do be chonk
God I wanna see you and Hop get your hands on that new 1-10 Trijicon Credo 🔥
I checked it out at shot , its kinda meh
Nah, I'll get a 2.5-10x Primary Arms GLX so I get both parallax, a better reticle and a zero-stop. Both is just better when you get three things.
Was very disappointed by the Vudu 1-10. My buddy was talking it up so much but my humble vortex razor gen 2 is superior.
correct. 1-10x all are highly niche products. Good for very specific things.
@@BrassFacts I could see it maybe being useful if I was in an environment like yours but the vegetation is way too dense where I'm at and I end up not even using the 6x 98% of the time
I just bought a Polonium K.
Nice
Mmm yes, new vid to end the work week😋
Would you recommend the 1x6 delta at 800.00 over other 1x6 in its category. I know it’s been out for awhile and may be irrelevant. Thanks Brass.
Check out the SuperSetCA best lpvos video. Delta/credo have top tier japanese glass, the credo has a reticle you can actually use without illum, but both of the fiber models of these are very bright, and are lightweight. Credo vs pst the credo wins out all day, its such a pleasant optic. The reason i mention both these optics is that theres a lot of theorizing that they’re the same oem and glass
I would recommend it, I have it on a 13.9 and it's a wonderfully made scope with great glass. You wouldn't be disappointed . The darn fine shot guy that sells them is awesome to deal with . Good luck
seems like the march 1-10 might be the best and most expensive
Except it has a 24 mm objective, so the exit pupil is even worse at 10x.
it's actually not good at all. And the only reason people think it is, is because almost no one owns one.
I guess im glad I went with the ATACR but was having buyers remorse thinking their duel focal plane was superior. Will you do a video on the new Credo 1-10?
@@ErrorCode-1 eventually
>me with a $70 amazon special 2.5-10x scope
Test of new Zero Compromise ZC210 LPVO when? ;-)
Needs more cowbell(silencer)
What if the shit misses the fan 😢
thanks for another great vid
I’m learning trumpet and I wish someone like you would teach me a different type of brass facts… I’m boutta just fuck around with it cause those videos are so goddamned boring and I end up right back here where I started.
Does brassfacts ever plan on doing long range scopes?
I have. But yes some more coming soon.
Would you get rid of a PA GLX 2.5-10X for this?
ooof, tough call. Depends what im doing. If I had 2 rifles no. If 1? yeah
no optic name in title or desc??
true, my b. I honestly smashed together this video upload in like 10min because I had to leave
Since 1-10 is the extreme in an LPVO where it begins to stretch itself thin since physics is a fickle mistress, will you do a review on the opposite end of the spectrum? Swampfox came out with their tomahawk 2 1-4x LPVO, and marketed it with an emphasis on it being the most forgiving 1x they have engineered, or something to that effect.
People will be dying to know if this is an option that brings that near-red dot performance the trijicon TR24 is known for with a side of magnification while costing less than 500 bucks the way the stiener p4xi used to.
I'm of the opinion that viable red-dot-analogue-LPVOs as you call them is a small neglected category with few options thanks in part to feature creep, and a push for more magnification than most civilians will ever need.
I think 1-6x and 1-4x is where the industry should have focused. All of them including the shit ones, are good
This story arc won't be complete until you do the 1.5-15x42mm dual focal plane March.
never
8:12 warcomp problems…
you mean sinus clearer 9000
Hey ass facts you're supposed to remove the Leaps leveling screw after setting up your scope. love yah
I have yet to hear a compelling reason why.
I think they just tell you to do it so their website weight is accurate.
That reticle is busy A.F.!!!¡!!!!!!
Zero LPVO application/appreciation on my part. Yet here I am watching this. Does American Pipe Dream mandate that "Zoomers getting after it" bit?
Huxwrx definitely cares about copyright laws
Scopes not centered in the mount are one of the only things that triggers my 'tism
hop also yelled at me.
+ positive comment +
Because LPVO's need MORE FEATURES...LOL
Holy shit you cut your hair finally😮
If i get one more Origin USA ad I will only do 21 push ups a day
I still find the bottom wind holds on the tree of most scopes rediculous. Who is using 7-10 mil wind holds? Unless you're shooting in 50 mph winds or 25 mph winds at say 2500 yards, 99% of users will never use these dots and therefore they're practically useless and should be removed.
BrassFacts quickly becoming BrassFats from the looks of it.
:( I've actually lost weight lol.
We have a 1-10x, then parallax got added.
Now maybe they can increase the objective lense diameter.
......oh, wait.
well that's my big issue with 1-10x LPVOs, they demand a huge objective, but huge objectives majorly fuck up 1x performance (see all of the >30mm objective LPVOs)
IMO, that's not LPVO anymore. LPVO has to have main focus on 1x and needs to be fast. If you need 10x magnification and parallax setting, you don't need LPVO.
Mah boi been hittin the gym? More like thiccc facccts
Hop lied, it is guarded by Harry Potter.
Meh. I still rock a prism.
While everyone else is arguing about the ideal magnification range, and what looks cool on MyFace and Instatwat, I'm ringing steel, and standing in the mirror practicing my catch phrase for when I rescue my 36EEE-24-34 25 year old nymphomaniacal, orally fixated, super bikini model from the zombie horde....