The Last Good SPR Scope: Primary Arms GLx 2.5-10x
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- With the market for 2.5-10x being basically 5 scopes. One of which cost $1500. And the rest being a series of compromises.
The GLx 2.5-10x comes out as one of the "least compromised" option. That mostly understand what the end goal of one of these scopes might be
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I'm surprised Primary Arms hasn't responded yet saying how this is the definitive proof that this is the greatest optic ever conceived
give it time... or actually, because I criticized it in the slightest; Imma get haters up in here
I'd argue that that one dude who durability tested their 1-6 Raptor did that lol
@@madstan8948 ehh it loses points in being that you can use it to anchor a cruise ship.
@@FXIIBeaver yeah it was built for tough men I guess you could say
@@madstan8948 no it was just built using ancient technology at this point and there are better scopes that weigh less. Actually no can’t say that. The ACOG came out in the same period and only weighs 9 oz so no it isn’t the best and hasn’t been.
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@@BrassFactsthe Utah mountain asian?
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The Roof Top Asian 😂 makes hella sense now, I'm going with this rig as my mid range game, thanks for the heads up fellas really means alot.
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Been saying this for a while:
I would rather have a 4-10, 4-16, 2-10, etc rather than an LPVO, but they are hard to find with the desired reticle and such
...so I end up with a Vortex 1-10x
how come? does the lpvo suck at the higher magnification? im interested because I got a ar-10 18" barrel and its nice and I want somthing nice for it
I installed this optic on a crossman 760 air rifle.I have now shot the riffle around 500 times during target/plinking practice, and the ruclips.net/user/postUgkxc4K63Fd5LglDMObu7-Bgapxp_ef0W8hE scope has done well.With this optic, I have neutralized around 30 pigeons that were invading one of my buildings.For my short range air rifle, I will continue to use this scope, but will be upgrading to a more powerful scope, when I buy a more powerful air rifle, in order to shoot at longer distance.For the money I have spent, this scope has truly been a great buy.
Awesome review. These kind of breakdowns are helping me plan out my next rifle.
I'm currently running a Sig Tango6 2-12 on my SPR, it's great glass but stupid heavy, been looking for something to replace it with and this really helped. BTW to get hungover in SLC you really gotta work for it so congrats on that.
Pretty ballsy shooting right up on your jeep like that. Also great review, I own this optic and it's my favorite to use.
Nice subjective review. I've been interested in this optic and I enjoyed you realistic non biased review. Keep up the good work.
I got one of these a couple of weeks ago. I'm liking it so far, although I haven't used it a whole heckuva lot yet. Good review!!
It's like watching an early Nutnfancy video. Honest and sometimes funny, I'll definitely watch again.
I liked the video, it was a good watch, and I enjoy the reasons behind your decisions. I also landed on the 2.5-10 range for my spr, but I went with the vortex viper pst. My opinion is that while I very much like first focal plane on precision scopes that I primarily dial, I prefer sfp and simple reticles on a fighting gun. Again, just an opinion, and another option in that magnification range that I agree is kind of the sweet spot for the intended role
I had one from the first production run. Got it on sale for $450 after they sued by Leupold for some of the turret design features and some cosmetic issues. I loved the steel on steel construction, glass quality and tracking. I had an Athlon Ares BTR 2.5-15 FFP and had to decide which to keep. The Ares was a touch clearer, but it had noticeable chromatic aberration with darker colors. It was noticebly heavier, too. I kept the GLx.
I did end up selling it. I had to help fund the purchase of a Benelli M4 barrel. It was on the shelf. I had replaced it with a Vortex Razor 1-10. I do miss it though.
I got a glx 2.5-10x with the raptor m2 reticle on an spr upper. Its a perfect balance of optical quality and tactical features. I like the glx line so much that I got the glx 4-16x with the mil dot reticle to build an identical spr upper. Such a useful piece of glass
I have a 4-14 slx in ACSS, and I find it to be one of the best options for me starting out with a spr, and 308 semi auto setup. I love that I can quickly swap it between my 18" ar15 and ar10. This makes it a great addition to my rifles and how I like to configure them for whatever situation I want.
how do you like the 4-16. I've been sooooo torn between the 2 scopes.
@@LyleH-13 the 4-16 is awesome. I'd take the 4-16 over the 2.5-10 because the Athena mil reticle is amazing. The Griffin and the raptor reticles don't have wind holds at 0.
@@KretinD The 2.5-10 would be my first optic if I didn't own any magnified scopes. Since I already have a good lpvo, the 2.5-10 is a hard sell because it doesn't offer anything new. the 4-16 gives me something I don't own yet.
Glad to see you like it, and I like the Athena because it's less specialized to a certain caliber so it can go on any rifle in the future as my options expand.
thanks for the reply.
@@LyleH-13i don't know if go for 2.5-10 Griffin or new 3-18 Athena, reticle are different
Really enjoying the content on your channel, especially the doggo cameos. New sub. Keep it up.
The dog is the secret sauce. Don't tell anymore
for the record i found this channel from... well the inevitable collapse of society that the world seems to be going towards, im by no means a prepper but still we all have those moments of what if. and then i found your video on your ACOG since well its a good shtf optic and well the rest is history. you keep your points practical and i feel like you are just a dude figuring stuff out and im with you on this journey.
Thanks for uploading
Bought the Raptor version for a bolt action build. Honestly most of us are never gonna shoot past 300 yards, let alone 500. This magnification range is perfect for most people. 2.5 is fine for close work and 10x is adequate out to a 1000. Sure, a higher magnification range is good for punching paper, but for maximum versatility and functionality I love this magnification range. I went into their store and tried out the reticle before buying one. The reticle at 2.5 VERY visible, that reticle takes up whole scope at 10x.
Digging that setup, badass and not too busy
Just bought this scope but I actually put it on a .308 that I intend to use as a "battle rifle" and I find it to be the perfect optic for a heavier weapon such as my ar10. Weight savings on an ar10 are crucial where ever you can so this was pretty nice. The functional use of this reticule is also really nice
I have it on my lightweight AR10, it's such an awesome set up. Easy to use at 2.5x close up as well
Now that you both have finished setting up your AR-10’s… Might I recommend checking out the Ruger SFAR?
@@That_Guy5575this is why I’m here. I’d like to get the SFAR 20” with this optic. Curious if this reticle coincides with.308, holdovers, leads etc.
Dude I can't wait to check out this new compact PLx
Awesome video. Thank you!
thanks for testing products the ordinary guy can afford (with a little saving up) and doing these videos. Im still hoping youll mount that elcan on the barrel length with the ammo it was designed for. Im on the front range and its pretty hard to get a day without 10-15 mph wind here to properly sight it in past 100m
I just zero the elcan at 156 yards, and the drop lines up perfectly for a 11.5. or at least well enough for hits out to 600
Been Debating on this scope, I’ve been using a viper vortex 2.5-10 for like 10 years on my 18” spr. Thanks for reviewing.
I realize that this is a late comment, but I got the GLX 2.5-10x for my "field" rifle. I actually sold my 1-6x Razor. I guess I got tired of the compromises. Anyway, that little issue that you mentioned with the hash marks lining up was driving me crazy. Yeah, a touch of OCD. Instead of trying to force the cap, try this. When you set the zero stop, take note on the red collar that engages the click button on the cap. It is anchored at a single point and allows for a little play. What I did was, when tightening the (red) zero stop collar, put a bit of counter clockwise pressure on it as you hold it up. Then start tightening at the set screw opposite the anchor point. This lined up the hash marks for me. Enjoyed your review. Your and Hop's comments lead me to try it out and went with it instead of the PST. I also had a bit of trouble with the Chevron. I just zeroed using the 2 mil hash mark and dial up 2 mils when I want to use the Chevron. I'm gonna use it like that for a while and see how it works out.
Oh, which ring mount is it that you're using for the red dot.
thanks yeah basically I figured out something similar
it's a larue mount
Building out an SPR upper… really appreciate your info!
I went with this in the ACSS reticle for my uncle's 18" SPR build. I wanted to give him those capabilities but without the business of the HUD DMR that I would probably want for that kind of rifle. I also feel like when you get into higher magnification optics than an lpvo, the advantages of FFP (holdovers staying true through the magnification range) become more apparent.
I think the reticle help much for know distance, i have see newest 3-18x44 with Athena BPR mil but don't have horizontal lines like that for estimate chest size distance. Damn
Love mine! I got it when it 1st came out for about $450 ish on sale … had to exchange because the a piece of dirt inside the scope- PA responded quickly and sent me out a replacement ASAP. Illumination sucks, but everything else is good to go as an “SPR” set up. I’m gonna add a off set RDS to also do a little bit “CQB” with it! Over all, I am
extremely pleased with this optic!
Good job sir!
thanks! 450, wow. What a steal.
How’s their warranty. Do they have lifetime like vortex or a ‘lifetime’ as long as you never use it ?
@@pureblood3813 I believe it’s limited lifetime warranty, so as long as you don’t willfully/deliberately destroy it, They’ll cover it…. I used it once due to an initial defect when this model 1st came out. 🤷🏽♂️
@@pureblood3813 no idea. I never really care much for warrantees, and Haven't needed to use it yet. TBD I guess
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Been considering an 18" upper with one of these optics. The more I think about it, the more I decide I dont need my 6.5 R700... haha Maybe I should wait a couple months to decide if its just an itch or not.
give in, scratch that itch!
@@BrassFacts I got that 18"... Aero's halloween sale was noice.
Sweet. Might be the one for my SFAR. For me I also want to have a piggy back with also NV and a thermal clip on in front when needed
I agree this area of scopes has been neglected. 2 to 12 is awesome. I would love to see a one to eight that actually has a 40 mm objective lens instead of 24.
Check out swamp fox optics. They have a 2-12x44. It is very reasonably priced and is a nice scope. I have used in .308 bolt and AR10.
@@rich1958 Thank you. Funny you should mention that I have just recently been looking at that optic. Also athlon has two in this area one that's around 250 and the other one around 450. Thanks
Freakin love these videos
Normally I love the chevron but I gotta agree, in this case they could've just gone with it a dot or crosshair.
Trijicon credo 2-10 does well imo. Only con is the reticle is a tad thinner than id like on 2x. But still useable. What's wild is at 3.5x it is clearer, brighter and has a similiar FOV to as my ta11 when comparing side by side. I've never found myself wishing it had parallax.
im thinking of putting a 2.5-10x on a spare 16" to turn it into a "dmr" upper.. really just more of a long range oriented set up compared to the more close to mid distance set up for most carbines... the Burris fullfield IV 2.5-10x is looking like a potential option to try it out without spending too much.
Liked this scope when I had it, but traded it out for a swampfox Kentucky Long 2-12 with the recce mil reticle. Better glass, range, and field of view. Comes with sunshade and throw lever.. Only down sides were 2 ounces heavier and the primary arms reticle is better/easier to use than the swampfox Christmas tree mil reticle.
Does the Kentucky long have adjustable parallax?
@@vlaricshard2 yessir and illuminated. Illumination is at least on par but I think better than the primary arms.
I was looking at this scope vs a Vortex 2-10x32 for the same price (roughly, plus mount) for a JP 18" and probably would have bought it, had I not stumbled on a LNIB demo model of Vortex PST 3-15 FFP Mil for $550. The only time I regret the decision is lifting it, lol.
I'll be buying it if I ever get a chance to build a 6.5crm and put the GLX on the JP.
Really well done
thanks man!
Back here again for the second time on this review. Trying to decide if I get one of these for my 16” PSA upper (first rifle ever) to complement the PA red dot, or save up longer and replace the 16” upper with an 18” BCM or similar quality upper and bite the bullet on a PLX line or Nightforce. Orrrrr do both, slowly over time as I become a better shooter and collect more coin.
Do you have any experience with the Athlon 2-12? Trying to decide between that or primary arms. So far on paper, diggin the Athlon reticle and FOV
Waiting to push the order button have been debating the 2.5 setting for close under 100 years ranges hashing over a 1x10 but think the 2.5x10 will have a better picture with better light gathering wish you had more close range putting it on and AR10 308 win replacing a vortex with MOA grid for ranging looking for something faster for ranging and can be used in close quarters like a red dot
Great video and thanks for the honest review. I wanted to ask with the expanding introduction of LPVO with 1-10 FFP capabilities for a general scope used with 5.56 or 308 for run and gun and shooting out to 1000 yards would those be a better option than the 2 or 2.5 to 10? Their tubes are more narrow, so, maybe they are more limiting in terms of image brightness and maybe that is sufficient to justify the move up to the 2.5 to 10. I have not had the opportunity to shoot a 1-10 nor a 2.5 to 10 so your feedback is very helpful.
PS I like your dog and I like that you include him in your videos, mine are always with me except when I go shooting.
my instinct is "no"
But I will actually be testing that here soon with a vudu 1-10x
Huge fan, brother.
thanks man, glad to have you onboard.
I love PA optics and have several of their scopes and LPVO’s. I recently splurged and bought a Daniel Defense DD5V3 16” .308 AR10. I looked hard at this PA scope but ultimately went with a Trijicon Credo 1-8 LPVO. My thinking on the purpose of the rifle is being a heavy hitting battle rifle capable of taking distance shots and not really a DMR/SPR. Haven’t had a chance to take it out to shoot yet but we’ll see. Worst case, I’ll sell the Trijicon and go with a more traditional scope.
Hey there. How do you like the CREDO 1-8x28mm? I'm seriously looking at getting one for my 20" bull-barrel 5.56. However, this PA Glx 2.5-10x44mm has got me second-guessing myself. Any input is welcome & appreciated! 🙂
@@sissydreams7494 you’re in luck, my friend, because I also have a PA 2.5-10x with Raptor reticle that I have on my 18” AR15. For your 20” setup, i definitely recommend the 2.5-10x. With a h-bar 20”, I’m guessing you’re probably going to be shooting mostly from a stabilized position (bench, kneeling, prone, braced, ect…) at distances greater than 50 yards. The extra 2x doesn’t sound like a lot but it does make a big difference when shooting at distance. I’d go 2.5-10x and if you’re concerned about CQB, get an offset red dot, piggyback red dot, or fixed 45 degree iron sights. Hopefully that helps. Good luck!
@@Goldenwithaleash Thanks very much for your insight!
brassfacts ftw
I got one of the gen 2 1x prisms and it has horrible illumination spill… it lights up the whole glass when on a high setting. I never need it up that high so it’s fine i guess. I just thought it was funny cause i had the same Amazon scope vibes 😂😂
Looks like the perfect civilian SPR scope! 👍
I have the SLX 1-8 FFP Raptor with the ACSS and it's pretty cool, functionality is great as well. I'll admit you obviously aren't going to get the same glass quality you will as opposed to shelling out thousands for an optic. That being said it's great for both unknown and even marked distances. At the 500 yarder I go to It was very easy to transition between the targets without having to dial at all. The reticle does all of the work, and it's brightness was pretty damn good I'll add. Not to mention it comes with 2 Night Vision settings, and my PVS-14 can pickup one of them rather well without washout being an issue.
Never fear, gold series 1-6x is in the works
@@CoryHobbs2178 Is that true?, I don't keep up on what they e-mail me and stuff so I'm clueless. I know sadly I can't afford the Platinum lineup and I think the Silver was a great entry level LPVO for me, especially given it's First Focal Plane. If the Gold series is some in-between that has increased glass quality and reticle brightness and some other improvements like the PLx does kinda I'd be interested!.
@@yakivpopavich absolutely, the gold series is probably 90 to 95% as good of glass quality, but half the cost. I'm sure the brightness and all that will be in line with silver. I might just snag the new platinum compact once it's released next month though. But the gold will be nice for some of my other backup guns that I can get two gold for the price of one platinum
@@CoryHobbs2178 That's awesome I'm going to keep my eye out for the release of that gold series for sure then!
Great vid! Subbed.
Also, what is that red dot mount? I've been looking everywhere for a moint on my lpvo
larue. Everytime someone puts a red dot on a lpvo I die a little inside.
That red dead redemption 2 music is a nice touch
So I have a 13.7 with a swampfox Arrowhead 1x10 and an offset red dot. However I love the pa acss reticle as I have a 1x6 on my 12.5, wife's rifle. I'm debating selling the swampfox and upgrading to this, probably the Griffin mil. So you have any experience with the Arrowhead and do you think it would be worth the extra cash and hassle of the swap. Also I have a pa 4x14 acss on my 16 in mk12.
Thanks
I notice you using an Athlon scope at 15:54. How would you compare that to this PA, and which model was it?
Planning on getting this optic for my ak101
Good info
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What are your thoughts on the vortex viper 2.5-10x44? How does it compare? Pros vs cons? You spoke about the credo. So was just curious on one of the other offerings.
I'm not that familiar with it. Hop wasn't as big of a fan, and said he preferred this scope on paper.
I think if you scroll through the comments he responded to someone asking a similar question
We a need a video on your rifle painting. Top notch look.
if you go way back, I paint my AK in a similar manner.
Like the red dead redemption music 🤙🏼
I saw in comments you used LaRue mount but no mention of the dot? How do you feel about using a holosun 407k or something along those lines I remember you saying it's not worth using certain reflex dots on rifles because of limited window. Any suggestions let me know looking to build this sighting setup out.
I would use a 407C the Ks are for compact handguns
I prefer the rmr for it's NV performance. (407C suck at that).
Excellent video. Sub.
You likely won't see this, but what would your thoughts be on running a T2 type optic on that piggyback set up where you have your RMR? I mostly ask because that would net you am enclosed emitter, long batter life, and in some cases better NV use (from what I understand). Seems like it would be a few ounces heavier, but aside from that I can't think of any downsides. I've also never used a piggyback setup like that though.
There's been a lot of people using T2's over RMR's on top of magnified optics, both variable and ACOG's. This is happening as companies are finally producing mounts for them. It's definitely a viable option and better than an RMR on paper
Awesome video! Any thoughts on the Vortex Viper PST Gen 2 3-15x44 FFP?
That scope is recommended by Phillip Velayo from Modern Day Sniper.
Great scope, but is large for an AR, and doesn't have locking turrents.
great scope for sure running one on a 308 carbine
I have a Nightforce 2.5-10 with no parallax knob and it’s a bummer.
I haven’t missed the parallax adjustment yet while running my Credo 2-10, but granted I tended to forget about it on most of my other rifles.
I know I'm commenting on an old vid but I had a question. Why was your rifle malfunctioning so much in this vid?
Thx for the video, what RMR ring mount is that? the Burris/Docter Optic and Trijicon RMR Ring Mount, LT788?
larue
Great video! What mount is that you are using for your rmr on top? Also would you recommend it?
larue, and yeah. It's a bit pricy though
@@BrassFacts cool! Yeah but the reviews I've been seeing on others i rather buy once then try 2 or 3 for the same price. Thank you!
Have you looked at the vortex pst 2-10? I’ve been eyeing one of those but have seen to many reviews on them.
I probably will at some point consider how many people are interested
Hey Brass Facts, sorry if I missed it in the video but I didn't hear it. What scope mount, and rmr scope mount are you using?
larue
Wish this could go up to 12 power.
More just relating to my own vision issues. Especially lacking parallax adjustment. I typically need a better zoom to compensate for my lack of visual clarity with my eyes.
Also I'm a guy who is happy to use intermediate zooms. The other day in my 2-12 power Leupold holding scope on my spr and I had it at 6 power for faster target transitions at range. Though 12 power would certainly facilitate more accurate shooting.
How does parallax adjustment affect your eyes?
Forgive me if you already said it in the video but Id love to know you which piggyback red dot mount you’re using. I’ve heard that the turrets on this optic are pretty high but your red dot seems to be sitting at the perfect height.
Appreciate the content! All the love and blessings.
larue
Great video! What do you think of the Nightforce NXS 2.5-10x42 for the same SPR type role? Do you think SFP still has value in this type of role?
I need to try one, dont really have a opinion on it yet
I ran an NXS 2.5-10x42 for a while. I found the Paralax to be annoyingly finicky. Also, the reticle choices are 15 years old and you can’t lock the windage turret. I think FFP is better in this magnification range but it being SFP was not my biggest issue with it. With some minor updating the NXS could be a real contender here.
@@MrCannonls Thanks for that take. I have one now, but I haven't really had much of a chance to use it. I'm happy with it so far. Did you see that they did a limited run of the 2.5-10x24? No adjustable parallax, but I think that it weighs as much as their NX8, which makes it a pretty compelling package. It changes a couple of variables in the equation anyway. Not for everybody.
Would you say its worth upgrading from a Gen 1 PST 2.5-10x32 ffp to this?
What’s your opinion on a acog for a GPR? I only have red dots On my rifles and wanted some magnification but wanted to keep the weight down on my boomstick compared to having the weight of a scope.
I think a ACOG is for a more specialized setup. My "mountain gun" setup if you will, and I'd personally prefer a LPVO for a GPR.
That being said... ACOGs slap, and I wouldn't even bat an eye if a ACOG + rmr stack is what I'd have to use for here on out.
@@BrassFacts What do you mean by "mountain gun"?
How does this scope compare to the Vortex Pst 2-10? Thanks for doing this video
I think better due to the reticle, usage on 2.5x and the turrets
What optic was co witnessed on top of your 2.5-10× and wgat mount did you use?
Thats what i have been dreaming about!
larue
Any experience with vortex’s pst 2-10? I have their gen2 1-6 and whilst I think it’s fantastic I don’t have experience with anything else and understand that because something in the lineup is awesome doesn’t mean everything is.
I have the PST Gen II 2-10x32, it's not a great choice for a bunch of reasons. Weight, unlocked turrets, small objective lens. Good quality optic but very odd design choices that make it badly suited to this POU.
@@Hoplopfheil and this is why I ask questions, awesome thanks!
@@Hoplopfheil almost got one but instead got a Leupold
No thoughts on the Athlon Helos BTR 2-12x42? Got mine for about $300. Weighs around 25oz and eye relief is similar.
reviewing coming right up
So for clarity he you are dialing Down 2 Mils of elevation then using the 2 mil as a crosshair for your aiming point?
Are you happy with the Griffin reticle or do you wish you had gone with the Raptor? Would the trick of subtracting two mils and using the top of the christmas tree still work with the raptor or only with the griffin? Thanks
I like it. For something like this it fits. For the lpvos I'd go raptor.
@@BrassFacts great, thanks for the fast reply!! Do you have any experience with the Vortex pst 2 2-10x? I am deciding between the two, but leaning heavily towards the PA thanks to your reviews
Nice
How's this compare to the Vortex Viper pst II 3-15x?
What in your opinion is the benefit of the 2.5-10 on an “SPR” vs the PA 1-10?
I cover that concept generally in my GPR vs SPR video.
it really depends what you're trying to do with the system.
Stupid, off-topic comment. but what what paint do you use for your rifles? I've tried looking for rustoleum/krylon camo lines of spray paint. But they're out of stock everywhere.
just whatever is in the store. Typically it's rustoleum, but I'll just grab whatever if they dont have that
@@BrassFacts thanks
@brass facts, Why did you go with the griffin over the raptor reticle?
For a general purpose rifle, a BDC is great and my preferred way to go. but for something I really wanted to stretch out and mil is more relevant
*Very good at least I like it*
I've been very happy with my US optics TS12X.
it's smaller and lighter than this optic, with a good mil reticle, very fine lines, and it weighs something like 18oz.
There is also a 3-9 credo that looks very intersting, and is also very light.
This optic is simply too heavy.
Too heavy? Lmao it weighs less than the original Razor 1-6.
@@charmingmander331 it's still too heavy compared to other options with similar or better features on the market. Building an SPR the right way involves sourcing parts that save every possible ounce. This optic is too heavy for that.
Do you have any opinions on the dead air flash hider versus something else?
yeah, since im running deadair can. It needs to be a keymo mount
Nox: to aggressive
Comp: it's a comp.
That really just leaves the FCD A2, and regular 3 prong. Both are fine.
What was the optic mount you were using with the pic rail on top?
I need to know what mount that RMR is on. Love how it’s away from the turrets and not next to it like many I’ve seen. Please respond and thank you!!
Larue maybe
yep, larue
How do you feel about the PST Gen 2 2-10
Which mount are you using for the scope and the RDS sitting on top ?
larue
19:29 I felt that
I’m actually kind of surprised it has a parallax adjustment on a 10X optic. You used to never see that on anything 10x or lower. Even the old fixed 10 power sniper scopes never had a parallax adjustment.
I might have missed it but what made you decide against the PST?
friend wasn't a huge fan. This just seemed better
They REALLY should have made one side of the autorange ladder just straight mils.
that would be awesome actually.
Would you use the mils on the reticle for that? 😃
@@1lostinspace yeah you can and I've done it on mine. It would be easier if it was on a ladder with half mil marks
@@tidypog3272 Weird mine has 1/2 mil marks
The Swampfox Kentucky Long 2-12x44 beats the PA and the Credo. It has parallax adjustment and it’s almost daylight bright in a FFP for under $500.
I have it. it does not beat it. But it certainly is major value for the money and close.
The SF has some issues, like worse turrets, zeroing that has a 50-50 chance of lining up etc.
I've been curious about just slapping a 3-9 hunting scope on my AR, my only trouble is finding one with a mil tree and parallax adjustment
3-9 hunting scopes dont have features. Maybe a lame holdover bdc for specific hunting calibers.
@@geebeaux yea that's what i've found. But the magnification range, clarity, weight, and durability at the pricepoint call to me. For an AR, maybe it wouldn't be so bad to just get one of those with the 3 dot bdc and figuring out my own ranging
@@ignaciovaccaro2745 I have leupold vx freedom scopes, good glass for the money, lightweight, capped turrets. Fit PERFECT in the Aero ultralight mount.
I have a vortex crossfire ii 3-9x50 good eye box but lame recticle
yooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooy
also what med pouch are you using?
yooooo -- oh shit an actual question.
Uh, I think it's a 5.11, I legit don't remember anymore. It's a old setup.
No parallax on the credo 2-10 turned me off to it, I ended up getting the 2.5-15x44 instead. Sacrificing the FFP to SFP.
I’ve been thinking of doing the same, how do you like it
@@runmyfade4350 I like it a lot, glass is good. It’s got a lot of eye relief. Just wish it was FFP. Because I like shooting 300-400 on 5-6x. Although at bottom of the reticle which tell you what the subtensions are at different power which is helpful.
@@FlowBaka Can you break down how different your impacts are at lower power? The main reason I haven't bought an SFP in this power range is I don't know what kind of shift I would get halfway through tye power range versus at the max.
Is it low compared to zero/hold point at max power and full reticle accuracy? Or high? Those were my guesses. And no one I've seen on YT compares point of aim and impact at 100 yards to underline it so...asking you cuz it seems like you know.
@@cl9260 I have not noticed a shift through the power range as long as I’m using the center dot and parallax is set. It’s just alittle slower at anything under full power because the reticle changed sub tensions. But atleast trijicon etched the power and sub tensions at the bottom. I think that’s what your asking.
@@FlowBaka So, basically I'm asking for the center aiming point. Then your first hashmark.
At center does point of aim and impact shift through the power range? (You said no to this so that was first question originally)
At reticle subtensions halfway through power range, where they would be true at 15x...where are impacts at 7x on the same distance target compared to point of aim?
I'm asking so I get an idea of how coarse aiming changes because I ain't the best rifleman.
I REALLY like the PA chevron -- on the Holosun Vulcan and the prism scopes. On a longer range scope...no.