Why I've Main'd Rogue for over 15 Years
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2021
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I have to watch this a second time cause the first time it was all about that soap opera that were your written tips... and subsequent adventures. Yay evil shenanigans. You're my hero for the 200th time.
xD Yeah I had a lot of fun making this one, I tried to think of all the most despicable things I could do as a rogue to use for most of the background footage.
Edit: I also briefly mention Bandits Guile, which I know was brought back as the Guile Charm legendary- However, Guile Charm is trash compared to original Bandits Guile. xD Bring back the REAL red buff, Blizzard! xD
I don't quite know where/how to timestamp this one, folks, since it's really just a video meant to express what drew me into the class and why I've basically played strictly only rogue for 15 years. That and making really bad puns/evil shiba shenanigans on 'unsuspecting totally real players and not unpaid actors'. >>
Regardless, I hope you folks enjoy it, and thank you so much for your support and interest in the channel, whether you've been here for 10 months or 10 minutes. ^^
Thank you for all you do. I love all your videos! Looking forward to 200 more 🎉
Your support from all this has been immensely appreciated, Kireinoshi.
Crafting your own poisons , blind and vanish dust , stacking thistle tea , actually needed thief tools to pick locks , good time . The rogue is the quintessential adventurer of WoW and such a fun class to play with . Still playing my old nelf rogue as main character sins 2005 . 🍺
Exactly, Rogues actually had items to perform all their devious little tricks back in the old days. It felt very important when you had to restock on blinding powders and stuff and make sure you were stocked on all your various consumables to take things on. Yeah it was time consuming and much more costly than some classes, but it felt much more realistic in those days.
While I'm kinda glad they've added Quality of life changes over the years (The combo point thing was probably one of the more irksome features of older expansions) there are a few little steps that I miss.
I've been playing a rogue since 2005 as well (Rinah-Llane) and through various epochs this same rogue has changed race and class and sex numerous times. I took a break from March 2017 until early December 2020, when I had an epiphany/realization that I wanted to return, not even knowing that there was a new expansion!
I mostly pve, but will say there is something special about rolling outlaw in pvp arena. Opponents therein have grown accustomed to dealing with subtlety rogues in the current meta, and choosing the pvp talents disarm and the armor stealing (akin to old school armor penetration) plus blade flurry cleave makes for situations that are extremely taxing for the opposition to dynamically manage/adjust to.
Thanks for all the outlaw related content, I thoroughly enjoy it and incorporate the highlights into my playstyle when applicable.
Happy to help, Chimbocoto. ^^ I can definitely agree there is something kinda surprisingly/unorthodox about Outlaw in arenas. Subtlety is quite heavily set in as the meta spec at the moment (though I'll be curious if assassination starts to come back into the limelight with their constant/recent buffs) but Outlaw has that element of surprise where other classes don't quite know how to deal with it at times. xD
love the video and i wish i had your passion for a single class as ive been playing since TBC and have switched in and out of class's / specs / roles like crazy . Its like im always chasing that level of commitment to a class and i never have truly allowed myself that for whatever reason BUT even though ive never mained a rogue i have truly enjoyed your vids thus far as ive just stumbled onto them great job look forward to more
Thank you for the kind words, Drew. ^^ I've just always been a sucker for rogue, but when I do play an alt I usually stray towards other agi/melee DPS like feral druid, monk, DH, etc. They're all just minor projects for when I'm caught up on everything on my rogue though, and even then it's rare they get played. xD
I plan on working some more non-rogue stuff in each week, though I still try to keep at least 1 or 2 rogue-specific ones in for the chunk of my viewers that watch for that stuff as well. Hoping to see some more big PTR changes before 9.0.5 goes live.
I totally agree with you, there is something in the rogue that you can't replicate in other classes/specs. I'm main rogue too, also an outlaw, and i think most of the magic comes from restless blades, stealth and gouge
Yeah rogues just have a very unique place in the way they play and how they can handle enemies that makes you feel in control of things as long as you plan it out a bit. That strategy of CC/defensive/stealth is just really powerful feeling to me. My rogue is about the only thing I feel that powerful on, even when I eventually catch my alts up mostly on gear.
got 1064 played days on my rogue here , happy not being the only one
Yeah admittedly I had an account prior to this one, so I'm sure I'm technically over like 450 ish (I didn't play much at all during Cata, and in the early days I was supremely casual xD)
I started playing rogue because I grew up on stealth games like MGS and splinter cell, and in every rpg I play I go for the thief build.
I actually do play a lot of stealth-focused builds in separate games now (Deus Ex: Human Revolution pacifist route was probably one of the most time consuming things I ever did) but I don't really remember playing anything that required being sneaky or stealthy until WoW, surprisingly. I mean I guess the 007 games but would be the closest thing.
Good video wish I had just 1 main but due to classes always being reworked I have several alts I had a Rouge for a lil while but that was when I was mainly pvping. Stay stealthy friend your a dying breed in wow
Thank you kindly, Brett. Yeah I couldn't imagine maining other than my rogue, I have a couple alts I hop on every now and then but being a rogue is just part of who I am at this point, I think. xD Take care of yourself as well, my friend.
I see you being a Troll extends from beyond your race choice ;)
Loved hearing your history though, I played a Druid first but ended up going Rogue because I wanted to see my transmogs but also still be able to Stealth. Never really play around with many alts, I have dabbled with alts but always feel myself wanting to go back to play Rogue. Also loving the current MA/KS build for M+ it feels really fun.
I'd actually been trying that build a lot this week and was quite happy with the damage and feel, though being stuck in place and potentially chunked during it is kinda sketchy.xD
To be fair, with so many easy ways to do it, the temptations are always around. ;) Those were actually just a bunch of class trials/alts of my wifes, I'd never actually do those things to people, as tempting as it can be. ^^; Seriously that 1 quest NPC had a respawn time of like 8-9 minutes and we said to each other while waiting was 'wow that is a really dick move huh xD'
lol I love how you stole the guy's gold right in front of him. Didn't even need stealth
xD That was an idea I thought of last minute because I was telling someone about the heavy junkbox farming for Ravenholdt rep and remembered you can individually loot items and leave at least one thing in a box. Muahahha.
@@ZeraTheRedRogue that's what he gets for not tipping
EXACTLY. >:[
Awesome video! Pretty much everything you mentioned is why i have also primarily only played rogue for the past 15 years. I see so many of my guild mates, friends and family switching through multiple characters and i just don't really get it. I've rarely had interest in playing any other class but my rogue. I have other characters for professions and that's about it. Great content as always!
Thank you, Frost. ^^ Yeah I see people who already have like 6 alts at 60 that they keep hopping between as soon as they hit like 200-205 ilvl and then change their mind and move onto the next one. It just doesn't quite make sense to me. Usually alt leveling is something I do when I'm exceptionally bored of the current content and that's basically it. Most of my extra characters are around for their professions and being able to transmog them with random stuff for fun. XD
that was rogue AF. approved. thanks for the content
xD Yeah this was a fun to make, glad you enjoyed it!
I also started playing in 2005. Very first toon was a NE rogue. Still my main all these years (280 days on this toon alone). I also switched to Blood Elf Horde (with this very toon). Combat, then Outlaw. I've rolled every other class, and I really like holy priest, but Rogue has my heart. I remember tanking Mother in BT during the BC days. Our tank dropped with 3% remaining, and I had 103% avoidance. Not 106%, but 103%. I yelled out "I got her! Don't quit!" I tanked the last 3 % with evasion, and we downed her (Progression). The hooping and hollering in vent was amazing. I'll always remember that. I always stayed right behind the tank in threat, and would vanish the moment the boss "looked at me", wipe threat and go right back into it. Tank used to get nervous, but there was a method to my madness.... hehe
great video great channel great rogue!
Wooohoo! Thank you! :)
A pleasure as always, Lorks. ^^
rouge leveling was a pain in the ass in the past ^^
even in bc or wotlk times...
in BFA i revisited my rouges and this was real change, such fluid gameplay compaired to the old days
Absolutely. XD Up until MoP they still felt pretty much the same. The Combo Point loss on target death was always a bit of a hassle so that being removed made rogue feel even better than ever. Also energy increasing in real-time versus the chunks was a blessing as well.
@@ZeraTheRedRogue yes and also the mishits, or weapon skill points... u must pay money for all the utility stuffs
Yeah and actually having a weapon swing timer. Jeeze things have changed a lot XD
as a wow classic rogue main everything you said is so true
Dude you and I have the same love for this class and spec because there really is nothing like playing a rogue yeah I have a couple of balls but I have been playing also for nearly 15 years and I love this class like no other and it goes the same thing with almost any RPG I play rogues are my favorite and always will be
Exactly, I think WoW was the first game where I really noticed how much I prefer the stealth and subterfuge options available in RPGs, so now in virtually anything I can get away with I play the closest thing to rogue available. Deus Ex: Human Revolution in pacifist route was an amazingly challenging experience, and I've always enjoyed the Demon Hunter Impale build in Diablo III.
my first main was rogue and i reroled over and over during the expansions now for SL im back to outlaw as main and the feel is realy good like you are again in a old very comfortable shoes :)
Welcome back then, my friend. ^^ Yeah if rogue was a pair of shoes for me, I'd have no soles or shoe laces left because I've worn them so long xD
@@ZeraTheRedRogue rofl :DD yea rogue is indeed all i want from a class :) and btw pure dps class so if one spec suck you can just go to the other spec :D
2:23 Oh my god, you MONSTER. YOU WOULD TAKE THE GOLD FROM OPENING LOCKBOXES. That's freaking EVIL, man. I should try doing that on my Mechagnome.
6:12 It seems that Viva La Dirt League I linked rubbed off on you. :)
8:47 YEA RIGHT!!! xD
Jokes aside, I think the reasons why you main'd a rogue for over 15 years is quite the similar reason why I mained a DK since its release. As the current state of Dks, the changes are not for the better. At least I'm glad you're having fun Zera.
Oh and I would like to speak to you about finding a new home for one of my Dks.
For the gold thing to work you have to have auto-loot disable or hold the modifier key to switch between auto and regular loot, btw. ;) That was my favorite one of the bunch.
xD And yeah I had a few more where I yelled that but I didn't need that much footage so a few things got cropped from the end product.
For sure! I'll hit you up on discord. ^^
I agree RR. The only reason I played another toon was I wanted some more professions. Stay safe.
Likewise Martin. ^^ Yeah I basically only have alts to help farm mounts/rare stuff more often. XD
You and I both. I've been playing combat/outlaw since beta and play nothing else. All my friends play alts but I play Sprawl the Rogue.
Exactly, I spend over 90% of my playtime on Zera, with the exception of like mount farming/profession alts.
@@ZeraTheRedRogue I'm still trying to figure out when best to leave Venthyr and start doing another covenant. I wanna do all 4 covenants over the xpac if possible.
Watching this video shows I absolutely have the sense of humor to play rogue just not the creativity
As another long time combat rogue since vanilla, I just dropped in to say how much I HATE bandits guile and I hope it never ever returns to dominance. Have a good day sir! 😊
Red Rogue "for forever". +200
I played rogue only too, no alts and whatsoever. The reason is I'm lazy af i just wanna stealth my way through things 😂 kill a world boss hit once and vanish out. 💀
xD I'm not gonna lie, being able to skip trash while leveling is so huge.
@@ZeraTheRedRogue it issssss!
Please do not remind me of the misery that was target specific combat points. ^^
Edit: Considering your question at the end, have tried to play other characters, but nothing comes close to the enjoyment I get out of my rogue. I agree with pretty much everything you said, I cannot see me main a different character ever (although my rogues has had his fair share of gender and race fluidity to be honest :D)
Too late. XD Yeah those were probably my least favorite thing.
0:36 CAUSE THEY'RE... SUB...tle? HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA HA HA HA oh god more sub vids thanks.
I'll be trying to get some more spec-specific stuff out soon, this week I plan on pushing a lot of M+ so the videos are probably going to be a bit shorter/quicker to make than usual. ^^;
Because it's fucking bonkers, i play outlaw as an alt for shadowlands and goddamn it's fun, the only thing i regret in my life is the tower mage for the rapiers, a bit sadge but who knows, maybe one day blizzard will backtrack
Yeah the Fencer's Reach is still easily the coolest pair of swords in the game for a rogue. The rapiers that come from Revendreth are quite nice too if you put a cosmetic glow effect on them, though. ^^
Outlaw is such a blast for me, the fact the rotation is so fast and requires a lot of quick decisions is very engaging for me.
@@ZeraTheRedRogue Don't twist the knife Red xd
< I would try using some difference color enchants on the revendreth rapiers though, I've seen some really slick looking ones depending on the enchant.
This video (more the background footage and shibish sidecomments), again underlines that rogues just get the most of fun out of the game by playing with their own rules like real.. Outlaws..
More seriously, I started out of boredom leveling an AssAssination rogue (alliance bfa for the story) and recognized that somehow rogue feels more like really interacting with enemies and envyronment (thinking of elder scrolls here)
Yeah I thankfully staged most of this with the help of a couple other people so I wasn't REALLY that much of a backstabber, but it does highlight all the typical rogue-ish tropes I could think of. xD
Honestly I have a disgusting amount of /played time as a rogue and every time I get on other classes, even other melee DPS, it just doesn't feel the same to me.