Rafale and TEDBF | How close are they? | हिंदी में
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- This is a video on Rafale and TEDBF | How close are they?
Website: thedefencematr...
Discord Link: / discord
Instagram Link: / defence_matrix
Twitter: / defencematrix1
Music : Art of Silence - by Uniq" is under a Creative Commons license (Creative Commons - International Recognition 4.0 - CC BY 4.0)
Intro Music : Credit Karl Casey @ White Bat Audio
*FAIR USE*
Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research.
Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing.
Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use.
The comparison between an already inducted rafales to a future technology tedbef would either be "in-comparable" Or "un-comparable" depending upon how many specifications of the tedbef becomes a reality or comes true.
Jai Hind 🇮🇳from Northeast ↗️
Love from Odisha to you bro...
New intro is 👌, short & simple but very nice😊
The model of TEDBF shows how design has matured if we look at TEJAS initial designs for reference.
Any step taken forward is a positive thing doesn't matter how small that step is.
All the Indian government and the agencies have to do now is to adhere to the timeline as strictly as possible.
Well TEDBF would come out around 2027-28. And after testing and all, it will only go for production from 2030-32. And some time around 2032 too our tejas mk2 will come into production, and AMCA's testings might get completed by that time. So, many will say its late, but we will also have to conclude MRFA and also our Rafale M order for navy carriers, so by 2030-32 it will be be the accurate time to shift complete towards indigenous jets production after all the foreign deals are completed. Which I think is OK, like if we can have our production of tejas mk2 and TEDBF started by 2030-32, it will be enough. Yeah it might not be super good, but its also not super bad.
Also another thing, why i think that TEDBF will be on time, maybe with a little delay, is because of direct participation of NAVY. And we have seen, Navy is much more competent and proactive in procuring indian made weapons, also in a fast manner. So its heighly chances that we might se prototype of TEDBF around 2026-27, We never know.
Bro it will take time to be good as foreign jets
@@Koi_apna_nhi well obviously, jets are obviously always in under improvement. Even in our own case of tejas, first we got tejas mk1, and then the much better and more indigenous tejas mk1a, and now we ae gonna get the tejas mk2, which is even more improved version of tejas mk1a. So yeah, jets are always in development, as new techs comes in, we will keep on intreigating them in our jets.
LOL. When they announced that it will be developed within 8 years, I knew it was a charade from the start. Aircrafts take 15 years from start of design to serial production, and that's for countries that have decent aircraft manufacturing experience. Announced in 2020, TEDBF serial production will not be before 2035. And that's the best case. Realistically, the project would be killed or serial production around 2038-2040 given India's history of delays.
@@sanjay59741 nope, the reason, ots because it has direct participation of Navy. As i mentioned, Navy is much more potent than other forces in acquiring indian made weapons. So yeah it may get delayed, but wont be cancelled.
Also idk how you are getting the 2035 date. By 2035 indias GDP will have crossed the 12-14 trillions dollars, so things will not be as its like now. India would have much capable infrastructure for manufacturing and also developing faster, than its doing today. Assuming the same situation for a decade later is idiotic. We can see the first prototype of TEDBF by 2027-28 and even if its delayed, it will not be more than 2029-30. production may start after 2 yeas of first flight.
@@rickgolder6818 Navy will support the project, but it will be developed by HAL, an organization suffering from talent leaving for better companies, bureaucracy and funds being choked and not comparable to foreign organizations like those form US, Russia, France or China. Navy or not, a brand-new design will take its time. You can be upbeat and develop false sense of hope, but they will defer the induction 1 year at a time until it's too late and you realize you have been duped.
The reality is - India does not have budget for armed force proportional to its economy or threat perception. Defense share of total budget has been slashed after reaching its peak in 2017 and its still coming down. This is causing India fail in maintaining a balance between foreign procurement where it is required and indigenous development. Whatever foreign procurements are done are not via bidding process, but Government to Government deals in small number.
Be happy until China captures Tawang and more parts of Ladakh and we continue to pretend all is well. Bookmark my previous comment and see if the first of the serial production (not prototype) is inducted before 2035 or not.
Airforce after tedbf rollout -
Hamko ye exact model chahiye 120 ki numbers Mai humko nahi pata chahiye matlab chahiye
Antartica me trials nahi honge tab tak hum nahi lenge :- IAF
( meanwhile NEWS:: IAF wants to lease 1 squadron of Medium category fighters fresh RFI release)
If only making aircrafts was as easy as making miniature models and graphics.
Who Is Missing That Iconic Defence Matrix Intro😢😢
👇👇.
New intro is far better than the previous one
If you remember SEPECAT Jaguar has a rail mounted on top of its wings to carry WVR missile, why dont we also consider this idea? as that way we might be able to have two extra A2A missiles that could be required in A2A role..
When we keep RCS and aerodynamics into consideration, that'll be a terrible idea. Jaguars are strike aircrafts. They are in no way multirole.
It was considered for Jaguars as they had no options for close range air to air combat. Jaguars fly very low to avoid detection. But for a design like TEDBF, aerodynamics and RCS is first priority, so no to overhead rails.
TEDBF is on paper
Rafale is an operational aircraft 😂😂😂😂
Yeh intro maja aya 😊.. street hawk types
जय हिन्द
nice intro bhai, pichla wala 20 sec lamba tha
New HAL, ADA Jindabad🥳🥳🎉🎉
सत्यमेव जयते 🇮🇳🇮🇳🙏🙏.
Jai Hind 🇮🇳
India needs a private ecosystem to manufacture jets.
When you have to wait for babus and GOI to green lit financial package, things move at a snails pace
Private sector also didn't deliver anything if government didn't release money for the package
@@harshityadav1252 yes they have, many subsystem and components have been developed by private sectors.
Mku: has surpassed all when it comes to vest and headgear.
Ideaforge and others has made numerous contributions in uavs
L&T has contributed across spectrum.
Then there are aerospace companies who have started contributing.
What you have to understand is private players have been recently allowed access to drdo tech and workspace.
Previous governments had kept them at an arms length.
Private sector Doesn't want to do R&D, They want Already designed Product And assembly for profits ( Well first moto of any business should be profit)
@@viveksorathiya2057 please look into how America and Russia built-up their aerospace ecosystem.
European ecosystem is still dependent on USA for subsystems and OEMs in some cases .
@@DA-sp2qy thats why USA and Russia is ahead of other They have multiple companies for defence r&d like for 5th gen Both Lockheed Martin and northtrop Grumman were in competition y23 and f22 and in Russia there was mig1.44 and su57. In china they have chengdu and Shenyang while in India drdo do all the r&d alone HAL manufacturer Lol
Not close..one is in service with many air fotces another is on paper with design getting finalised just about now..
The only feature i am very sure of indian TEDBF is it is invisible till now😂
Jai hind....
One is in the drawing board. Another is among the best 4.5 generation aircraft in the world.
At this rate Navy will induct TEDBF before aur force inducts Tejas Mk 2😂, Navy beating air force in fighter jets😂
Gets Mirage 2000 from France, copied it as Tejas. Gets rafale and copy pasted it as TEDBF.
Pretty much 😭
Gets Junk fighter ans painted green and claims indigenously developed😂😂😂
Tedef may carried😮nirbhay and rudrom3 bromhos against and Astra 2/3.
What an intro….❤❤❤❤….awesome ✌️✌️👍👍👌👌👌👌
Sir please provide some information about the performance of Tejas in Dubai Air Show
Wowww......., new intro, I like it 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Plz make video on India army lsv armoured vehicles. List
New Intro is Awesome
Jai hind🇮🇳🇮🇳
Ohh I funking love the intro song .
Unladen weight of a deck based foghter is always going to be higher because of renforced lending gears and strengthend wing loading for carrier operations
Air force isn't paying much attention to it , can't blame them but they will need a primary workhorse for Himalayas and Tejas mk2 can't be one as it's single engine fighter . But if Navy will do it any ways but will just take bit more time .
Nice tone to start with.....
intro ✨
Congratulations nice intro music variation
Intro was great.
wow excellent intro music ..loved it
Nice intro
Sahi baat
❤ today's new intro music was intense.
Into 💥
Loved the new intro ❤
New intro is nice ❤
I don't understand why our IAF hasn't went forward with ORCA.
I have few points based on our defence.
130+Jaguars single engined (outdated aircraft concept),
60+ mig 21 (good that they will be replaced by Our Tejas)
40+Mirage 2000 ( single engined)
50+ Mig 29 (dual engined)
Around 300 Aircrafts will be decommissioned within a decade.
We need to full fill the decommissioned aircrafts.
As well we have to add new Aircrafts to Increase our Squadron strength.
114 MRFA + 123 Tejas 1 Versions + 100 MWF+ Few AMCA.
That are not Enough.
Point- (Fifth Gen Aircrafts are high cost to operate as well it's not for every mission).
IAF should have gone forward with Tejas MWF as well ORCA (Twin engined aircraft version of TEDBF)
AMCA around 4-5 Squadrons are enough.
Comparing a successful PhD holding professor with a child which isn't even born yet 😶!!
Few things, will the French have no problem with us making a "similar looking" jet? (baaki padosi to bolenge hi unko choro)
And second, kab banna shuru hoga... Jab se bas models hi dekhe jaa rahe hai... Tejas jaise 20-30 Saal wait karna padega kya?
What about tejas tec issues during flight (Dubai Air Show 2023)
Jai shree Ram bhaiyo
BFTS Rader should be our dream.
I just have a single doubt
Where is the EOTS or IRST
New intro 🔥🔥🔥
Loved the new intro song ❤❤
How close are TEDBF and Typhoon? One is a design on paper under development in India meaning it is like fusion. it will always be 3 years away, the other is flying and doing useful things such as protecting the nations that purchased it.
I am actually not too inclined to compare rafale with TEDBF. One is in service with many countries and seen war as well. TEDBF is in papers, far from reality. Not justified!
ooh new intro 🔥
Heart of aircraft is engie and we don't have our own engine in production with 80 knot
Great intro
Ye intro accha tha😊
with 11.78 Tonnes of total DRY Thrust, we can expect it to cross Mach 1 with a couple of missiles.
Bhai jo cheez vajood mai hi nahi hai us se kya comparison 😂bacha ka jnam nahi hua or mera beta doctor engineer bne ga pehle hi bta diya😂
Have a nice day
Jai Hind 😅
Iff there is already a jet that is used and choosen thinking something then why navy will choose a jet that is not good as the current one people upgrade npt degrade
i hve a model which is 6 generation plane better dan f22 but its on paper
Tedbf have duel😢wiopon load capacity.
Engine of Rafale M88 produce 75 kN thrust and Kaveri engine produce 73 KN , then why we are not using Kaveri in TEDBF of ORCA ? Atleast we should try to integrate Kaveri with Tedbf.
Sir why we make inferior jet when we have better technology available now in india....rafal is still better inspite it is designed way back
Tedbf ka CDR nhi hua dusra indian navy keep things practical and according to their needs, rafale goes 10g only on display, it is never made for 10g
Before jumping to the next imagination world.
Pick your Samosa (Teja) from UAE, which is crying for home delivery. 😅😅😅
Tejas mk2 & additional Rafale should be priority.
with the delays, it seems IAF will conclude MRFA and fly first Tejas Mk2 in 2027... while TEDBF jo ho jaye, aake rahega by 2027-28
at that point, it would be better if IAF chooses to use TEDBF and make it into an airforce version (in short bring back the ORCA)
btw TEDBF is also priority, Tejas Mk2 aint gonna fly from decks and also Rafale would make it overdependent on France and that would hurt indigenization
no way TEDBF is getting relayed
in my worst nightmares, AMCA might be delayed... or scrapped... who knows... but indeed TEDBF is gonna fly at all costs... thats for sure... if not by 2027-28, surely by 2030
Tedbf is in our dreams dont compare a real vs imaginary 😂
To all those Ram Bhakt : law.e ka ram bhakt ho tumlog ki jagah mandir me nahi madrasa me hai 😂 , from a proud deshdrohi❤❤
That dream's going to be true which's gonna be better than Rafale...
Most intelligent chappri in the defence comment section.
@@AemondTomahawk inke liye Vishnu Puran mein alag se dand hai!
TEDBF is on Paper for now it's foolish comparing them.. we have seen wat happen with kaveri engine...the problem with India is we praise a lot even when it's not developed and we get disappoint later
@@chishi3137 who said kaveri is a fail?
& TEDBF's going to be with the Navy by 2032!
#FuckOff
Can made in india ?
TU 160 BOMBER ?
C 130 J. ?
Jo plane France ne 15-20 saal pehle banaya technology develop kari usko india aane wale 15-20 saalo me banaega.matlab wohi design wohi technology pe kaam karega india.. isme development kaha se hue.. duniya 6th 7th generation tak chali jayegi indian 4++ pe he rahega
India should cancel tejas mk2 program and should work on tedbf's air force version😅
One is flying real time while the other is flying in imagination.
Agar yahi Airforce Variant bhi hotta toh best hotta
Ande se Bahar bhi nahi nikla ...aur comparison shuru..
RAFALE + AMCA(Air Intake and fuselage) = TEDBF
Tejas truly ek failure hai, JF-17 ek Compromised Aircraft hai. Mgr EK Compromised Aircraft sa ap Compare b nhi kr pa rha. O v itni badi R&D k hota hua.
Fr v inki baata sunu.
Ye mast hai imagination or reality kitni close hai😂
This all will only happen if US decides to give the engine on time
MRFA ka deal kab hoga ?
Pov :- Din me Sapne dekhne me koi burai nahin hai..😂
TEDBF ek bahot khubsurat sapna hai lekin hamare sansthaon me o dam nehi Jo use sahi samay par saakaar kar den
Bro why you haven’t made video of tejas I’m Dubai air show… heard from someone that tejas was not able to fly its was grounded for many days beside jF 17 took the show
This is whats wrong with Indian defence R and D. You are planning to build a aircraft in 2030s which is comparable to todays technology. Till that time more advanced aircrafts will be present.
Content k nam pe real and on paper aircraft comparison
पड़ोसियों, दुबई एयर शो में तेजा क्यों असफल हो गया? रोना-धोना बंद करो और लड़ाकू विमान बनाने पर ध्यान केंद्रित करो।
2d vs3d
मोस्ट अवेटेड DAC मीटिंग का कोई अता पता नहीं है 😢 इसी में शायद एक्स्ट्रा तेजस एक्स्ट्रा विक्रांत का फैसला होना था
❤
If we see progress of Tejas, than TEDBEF will be commissioned in near 2050.
Per isko banne main 25 saal lag jayege😂😂
I don't y but tedbf looks sexy than amca 😅
Because both are in imagination.
Now time for reverse engineering and spending more defence technology R&D
When TEDBF becomes reality we can prove it. Till that time it's all bakwas. As usual like Mann ki baat. Too much talking no action. We need to get new blood in all areas of Indian economy. Old book learners are rigid. Drones are major future technology where we are no where near. Just dancing the music for last 25 years.
😂😂😂😂😂 right. Tejas ke wande hai
Abhi ye Kam se Kam 20 sal door h bhai
Cancel MRFA... Go for tejas mi2 Or ORCA.... Stop imports. If you want urgently go for 36 addditinal rafale
Rafale is 101 percent french while tedbf.......?
Tdwtf...???
India plans to copy the Rafale fighter jet developed by France in 1989🤣