Lol I have eaten 500 gr grass fed steak a day for the last 5 years ( plus 8 eggs, one can sardines, on OMAD ) I am 55 and my body scan says I'm 48, and my triglycerides are in the very low range 0.6
keep doing you man; let these vegans stay in their circles and eat their plant food. Will keep meat prices down for us. We don't need more demand for this stuff.
@@VR-oy3fu Peter, it's unethical to eat meat in 2024 if you have plant options. Also, see the debate between Anisa Jomha v Vegan Gains, if you haven't already!!! 👍👍👍
@Magar6 Your assertion about the cruelty of consuming animals is valid, yet one could argue that ethical parity exists between the use of fish and other animal-derived products such as brain. As for eggs, when hens are raised in pastures with adequate care, providing them with protection, sustenance, and shelter, this relationship could be viewed as mutually beneficial. Many see it as a form of symbiosis where humans gain eggs while ensuring the hens' welfare.
@@lotembenatar7163 What happened to the male chicks who were macerated on the first day of their birth, because they can't produce eggs? Was that ethical?
@Magar6 You're absolutely right. It's a real issue. I'm with you and hoping for a technology breakthrough that lets us figure out if an egg's going to be a hen or a rooster before it hatches.
And until such time as the tech solution is available, will you cease participating in the current horrors? (for the sake of a mere egg,, by the way). It's a trivially easy change for you.
Vague terms like high and low are tiresome. We have all heard too much about studies of 'high fibre' diets that have a pitiful amount of fibre, 'low fat' diets that are 30% fat and so on.
@@keithbarbaro7590 I think was saying that low and high are vague terms. Low fat doctors on youtube usually are talking about zero oil, not even nuts and avocados, which ends up being around 10%-15% of calories from fat (esseslstyn) in the amounts naturally in high carb plant foods.
Won't eat meat or fish anymore... Can't afforded "TRUE " organic meat/fish and do not wish to eat contaminated meats/fish... Don't want to consume unnecessary hormones or antibiotics ... Nothing I can do with our contaminated soil and environment etc... Can only do what you can do... We can NO longer eat, as our grandparents did... Sadly
Loved this video. No black and white, provided the nuances and the limitations perfectly. Loved the tip of starting with the general recommendations and then adjusting to your own situation by measuring apob. The answer to mercury levels where you focus on the outcome not the mechanism is chef's kiss. And finally the wild VS farmed is pretty well handled. I was expecting you to go by how the outcomes show no difference between consumption of one or another but you answered even better. But of course there's the comments where there are the butt hurt carnivores and people focusing on mechanisms to argue for what they want
I think how much omega 3 we need is blown way out of proportion in order to sell supplements. There is no way we would be getting that much naturally unless we were eating fish every day.
I don't see anyone in the blue zones consuming that amount of omega 3 either. Where is the scientific proof that taking that quantity of EPA/DHA in supplement form actually results in longer life?
I may be mistaken but I believe Walter Willet from Harvard said that the safe amount of red meat per day is 15grams which looks like a small steak once a week or larger steak once a fortnight ...
Wild animal is much better than farm meat as its very low in saturated fat and higher in other nutrients . The expensive Japanese wagu steak for instance is very unhealthy . Ofclurse we can't all eat wild animal meat as there will be no wild animals left . So we be better off eating lower fat such chicken and pork
Because Simon isnt just considering the health aspect, but also the environmental impact. Large scale fishing operations are terrible for our oceans, as are fish farms. So how does a professional choose between two evils @@jorgesanabria6484
Why does Simon Hill not speak of the elephant in room? (the fact that it's unethical to eat animals in 2024). You failed to be brave here. It normalises animal abuse. Speak up for the animals mate! You have a huge platform. For those reading, please see what the animals go through (Dominion and Seaspiracy are good starting places)
Red meat is 100 times more nutrient dense than ANY plant foods. Americans have reduced meat consumption by 40% since the 1970’s…and we are in TERRIBLE shape. Carbohydrates and processed foods are killing us.
Actually, red meat is the opposite of nutrient-dense in comparison with most plant foods. Sure, it is high in a few (very few nutrients), but per calorie it is *much* lower in most nutrients as compared with most plants. Furthermore, it is higher in saturated fat, is a source of cholesterol, contains ZERO fiber, and lacks the thousands of phytonutrients present in plants. Oh, and it is also a class-2 carcinogen. Study after study has confirmed that plants are health- and longevity-promoting, while red meat is the opposite. Advancing the narrative of red meat as health food is just contrary to the evidence. Also, Americans eat most of their calories from processed junk and animal products. Only 3% of their intake is from whole vegetables. 97% of Americans do not meet the laughably low RDA of fiber - which tells you how little of their intake is from whole plant foods. THIS is why we are in terrible health - not because we have decreased our intake of red meat (which I am not convinced we have…).
Care to explain how higher intakes of such nutrients (like zinc and B12) would reduce the high rates of cardiovascular disease among the general population?
most of you guys fear carbs too much, carnivores/keto gurus brainwashed you too much. I would strongly suggest to bring carbohydrates from whole food sources back into your diet and test it out how you feel yourself and such instead of blindly believing, I've been there, did keto, did carnivore I no longer think carbs are a problem, I dont plan to return to keto/carnivore diet ever again, unless maybe I run into some unexpected health issue at some point. oh and btw, there are risks to eating too much meat, carnivores don't wanna talk about it but at some point you're very likely to develope histamine intolerance from zinc/copper/vitamin c imbalances, it is also possible to overload yourself with too much iron which again is not good at all.. you can look into paul saladino's or Elliott overton videos about iron overload and what they had to do to overcome it... not nice at all, if I knew all the stuff about keto diets I wouldn't have started them in the first place tbh. that being said I still follow animal based diet, I just consume less red meat, more eggs, poultry, I don't fear carbs anymore but I'm not going crazy about them either, I keep them at a moderate range of 150g or less a day and I'm pretty active so I think thats fine in my case. but hey if you're really feeling great on a keto/carnivore diet, then go on and keep doing what works for you (I'd still recommend to test bringing carbs back tho or atleast get bloodwork done at some point to make sure you're fine, don't ignore it blindly), have a nice day/evening
Regarding heavy metals, fish is actually not the main exposure. If you are concerned about food exposure there are vegetables that are worse. What is bad in fish, however, is PCB and forever chemicals (PFOS, PFAS. I don't know which is which). There is a very recent swedish study that showed that swedes adhering to the food guidelines had much higher levels of forever chemicals, probably due to fish consumption. The other big (and by far the largest exposure) exposure was contaminated water (like groundwater downstream of military airfields).
Yes, its an oversight in Sweden that we recommend fish. I work in healthcare and so when people ask about food I have to give the general guidelines which feels kinda weird since especially in Sweden our fish is full of forever chemicals. I'd like sources on what vegetables are bad though.
In the interest of public health, please name the vegetable that is worse than sea animals and where it was grown. Please cite your source as well so we can all avoid it. Thank you.
Plant Chompers did a video looking at the concentrations of “forever chemicals” in animal products as opposed to plant foods. It was maybe a few months back?
@@falsificationism I hope LinusBerglund supplies this information. It's been 3 days though, so with every additional passing day, the odds of this are getting worse.
I eat 500 gramm meat every day. Without doing that I am prone to leg pain because I run a lot at age of 66. With meat my legs stay healthy, No injuries at all.
I have 6 to 8 ounces of grass fed beef or lean ground turkey. I am 5’03, 136 lbs and get in 136 grams of protein and require 2 protein shakes on top of my 3 meals and snack to meet that goal. 🤷🏻♀️ i also have 2-3 eggs with 2-3 cage free egg whites and still need the protein shakes. I am 46 and care about my bone density and strength because I will be 47 soon. I still menstruate and ovulate. I need all the help I can get.
@@johnnyfog8134 smoking one cigarette is riskier for asthmatics. Yes. Probably best to simply advise that people try their best to smoke zero cigarettes though, right? Right?
I agree but if someone says “I’m eating red meat” but want to understand my risk. Measuring ApoB is a good starting position. If high they can then eat leaner cuts and/or less total red meat and retest.
@@TheProofWithSimonHill is there any reason to believe people eating SOME lean meat would have BETTER APOB than people eating NONE? If so, then I understand. If not, why hesitate to simply state the obvious? Less meat/mercury exposure is better. In my view it’s irresponsible to fail to state the obvious on this. Particularly to an audience drowning in caloric surplus. I get it though, if the goal is to sound reasonable and likeable, some dilution of scientific reasoning/accuracy may be necessary.
This guy recommends consuming vegetable oils that are harmful for us, red meat is the most nutrition food. 300-400 per day is what we should eat, not all red meat is high in fat. The studies on red meat were done on people that ate red meat mostly in forms on junk food like fast food burgers. He is based on outdated information.
"The studies on red meat were done on people that ate red meat mostly in forms on junk food like fast food burgers" Got a reference or are we literally just making stuff up at this point?
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If i listened to all the diet advice on what isn't healthy then I would never eat anything at all 🤷
Lol I have eaten 500 gr grass fed steak a day for the last 5 years ( plus 8 eggs, one can sardines, on OMAD ) I am 55 and my body scan says I'm 48, and my triglycerides are in the very low range 0.6
How’s your ApoB?
@TheProofWithSimonHill predictability perfect , as is my fasting insulin.
Steak is unethical to eat. A plant-based diet is all we need. The science is out.
keep doing you man; let these vegans stay in their circles and eat their plant food. Will keep meat prices down for us. We don't need more demand for this stuff.
@@VR-oy3fu Peter, it's unethical to eat meat in 2024 if you have plant options. Also, see the debate between Anisa Jomha v Vegan Gains, if you haven't already!!! 👍👍👍
Thanks, Simon.
It feels like eggs and brain are often overlooked as sources of DHA
Both of these are cruel as fuck, so hard pass there.
@Magar6 Your assertion about the cruelty of consuming animals is valid, yet one could argue that ethical parity exists between the use of fish and other animal-derived products such as brain. As for eggs, when hens are raised in pastures with adequate care, providing them with protection, sustenance, and shelter, this relationship could be viewed as mutually beneficial. Many see it as a form of symbiosis where humans gain eggs while ensuring the hens' welfare.
@@lotembenatar7163 What happened to the male chicks who were macerated on the first day of their birth, because they can't produce eggs? Was that ethical?
@Magar6 You're absolutely right. It's a real issue. I'm with you and hoping for a technology breakthrough that lets us figure out if an egg's going to be a hen or a rooster before it hatches.
And until such time as the tech solution is available, will you cease participating in the current horrors? (for the sake of a mere egg,, by the way). It's a trivially easy change for you.
Vague terms like high and low are tiresome. We have all heard too much about studies of 'high fibre' diets that have a pitiful amount of fibre, 'low fat' diets that are 30% fat and so on.
Just wondering if you think 30% of calories from fat is low?
@@keithbarbaro7590 I don't
@@keithbarbaro7590 I think was saying that low and high are vague terms. Low fat doctors on youtube usually are talking about zero oil, not even nuts and avocados, which ends up being around 10%-15% of calories from fat (esseslstyn) in the amounts naturally in high carb plant foods.
300g 😂that s not even my breakfast 🤣Steak&eggs is pretty different than a burger&fries
Won't eat meat or fish anymore... Can't afforded "TRUE " organic meat/fish and do not wish to eat contaminated meats/fish... Don't want to consume unnecessary hormones or antibiotics ... Nothing I can do with our contaminated soil and environment etc... Can only do what you can do... We can NO longer eat, as our grandparents did... Sadly
Loved this video. No black and white, provided the nuances and the limitations perfectly. Loved the tip of starting with the general recommendations and then adjusting to your own situation by measuring apob. The answer to mercury levels where you focus on the outcome not the mechanism is chef's kiss. And finally the wild VS farmed is pretty well handled. I was expecting you to go by how the outcomes show no difference between consumption of one or another but you answered even better. But of course there's the comments where there are the butt hurt carnivores and people focusing on mechanisms to argue for what they want
Simon has a great demeanor for the dietary challenges in today's social media environment.
I think how much omega 3 we need is blown way out of proportion in order to sell supplements. There is no way we would be getting that much naturally unless we were eating fish every day.
Natural doesn’t = best for longevity. That’s a fallacy
I don't see anyone in the blue zones consuming that amount of omega 3 either. Where is the scientific proof that taking that quantity of EPA/DHA in supplement form actually results in longer life?
I may be mistaken but I believe Walter Willet from Harvard said that the safe amount of red meat per day is 15grams which looks like a small steak once a week or larger steak once a fortnight ...
I guess I have a hard time remembering, but I come back to this videi every so often
So humanise it for people!! What does 300-400 grams a week look like and how could it be speed across meals.
Wish he would have Dr Alan Goldhamer on his show. He will tell them without hesitation why meat isn’t good food us.
Wild is not much better than farmed?
Yes it is
@@phoenixgirl11 that’s what I thought, Simon isn’t a fan of either
Wild animal is much better than farm meat as its very low in saturated fat and higher in other nutrients . The expensive Japanese wagu steak for instance is very unhealthy . Ofclurse we can't all eat wild animal meat as there will be no wild animals left . So we be better off eating lower fat such chicken and pork
Because Simon isnt just considering the health aspect, but also the environmental impact. Large scale fishing operations are terrible for our oceans, as are fish farms. So how does a professional choose between two evils @@jorgesanabria6484
What’s the brand of algae oil he uses
300-400 grams steak is actually a pretty big steak
The recommendation is usually for a week (that I see) but a lot of people easily eat 2-300 grams in a day
Per week*
Why does Simon Hill not speak of the elephant in room? (the fact that it's unethical to eat animals in 2024). You failed to be brave here. It normalises animal abuse. Speak up for the animals mate! You have a huge platform. For those reading, please see what the animals go through (Dominion and Seaspiracy are good starting places)
I would say it's unethical to not eat animals.
Red meat is 100 times more nutrient dense than ANY plant foods. Americans have reduced meat consumption by 40% since the 1970’s…and we are in TERRIBLE shape. Carbohydrates and processed foods are killing us.
Actually, red meat is the opposite of nutrient-dense in comparison with most plant foods. Sure, it is high in a few (very few nutrients), but per calorie it is *much* lower in most nutrients as compared with most plants. Furthermore, it is higher in saturated fat, is a source of cholesterol, contains ZERO fiber, and lacks the thousands of phytonutrients present in plants.
Oh, and it is also a class-2 carcinogen.
Study after study has confirmed that plants are health- and longevity-promoting, while red meat is the opposite. Advancing the narrative of red meat as health food is just contrary to the evidence.
Also, Americans eat most of their calories from processed junk and animal products. Only 3% of their intake is from whole vegetables. 97% of Americans do not meet the laughably low RDA of fiber - which tells you how little of their intake is from whole plant foods. THIS is why we are in terrible health - not because we have decreased our intake of red meat (which I am not convinced we have…).
Not true complete opposite . Its not the meat that contains the nutrients its the offal in the animal that everyone rarely eats.
Care to explain how higher intakes of such nutrients (like zinc and B12) would reduce the high rates of cardiovascular disease among the general population?
most of you guys fear carbs too much, carnivores/keto gurus brainwashed you too much. I would strongly suggest to bring carbohydrates from whole food sources back into your diet and test it out how you feel yourself and such instead of blindly believing, I've been there, did keto, did carnivore I no longer think carbs are a problem, I dont plan to return to keto/carnivore diet ever again, unless maybe I run into some unexpected health issue at some point.
oh and btw, there are risks to eating too much meat, carnivores don't wanna talk about it but at some point you're very likely to develope histamine intolerance from zinc/copper/vitamin c imbalances, it is also possible to overload yourself with too much iron which again is not good at all.. you can look into paul saladino's or Elliott overton videos about iron overload and what they had to do to overcome it... not nice at all, if I knew all the stuff about keto diets I wouldn't have started them in the first place tbh. that being said I still follow animal based diet, I just consume less red meat, more eggs, poultry, I don't fear carbs anymore but I'm not going crazy about them either, I keep them at a moderate range of 150g or less a day and I'm pretty active so I think thats fine in my case.
but hey if you're really feeling great on a keto/carnivore diet, then go on and keep doing what works for you (I'd still recommend to test bringing carbs back tho or atleast get bloodwork done at some point to make sure you're fine, don't ignore it blindly), have a nice day/evening
Cardiovascular mortality rates have sharply declined since the 1950's.
Regarding heavy metals, fish is actually not the main exposure. If you are concerned about food exposure there are vegetables that are worse.
What is bad in fish, however, is PCB and forever chemicals (PFOS, PFAS. I don't know which is which). There is a very recent swedish study that showed that swedes adhering to the food guidelines had much higher levels of forever chemicals, probably due to fish consumption.
The other big (and by far the largest exposure) exposure was contaminated water (like groundwater downstream of military airfields).
Some references?
Yes, its an oversight in Sweden that we recommend fish. I work in healthcare and so when people ask about food I have to give the general guidelines which feels kinda weird since especially in Sweden our fish is full of forever chemicals. I'd like sources on what vegetables are bad though.
In the interest of public health, please name the vegetable that is worse than sea animals and where it was grown. Please cite your source as well so we can all avoid it. Thank you.
Plant Chompers did a video looking at the concentrations of “forever chemicals” in animal products as opposed to plant foods. It was maybe a few months back?
@@falsificationism I hope LinusBerglund supplies this information. It's been 3 days though, so with every additional passing day, the odds of this are getting worse.
I eat 500 gramm meat every day. Without doing that I am prone to leg pain because I run a lot at age of 66. With meat my legs stay healthy, No injuries at all.
Legs great, heart not
I have 6 to 8 ounces of grass fed beef or lean ground turkey. I am 5’03, 136 lbs and get in 136 grams of protein and require 2 protein shakes on top of my 3 meals and snack to meet that goal. 🤷🏻♀️ i also have 2-3 eggs with 2-3 cage free egg whites and still need the protein shakes. I am 46 and care about my bone density and strength because I will be 47 soon. I still menstruate and ovulate. I need all the help I can get.
🥩🧈🥓🥚
If you can't answer "how much meat is too much" without knowing a person's APOB, you're in too deep.
I mean it makes sense that if you are at risk the limit will be lower
@@johnnyfog8134 smoking one cigarette is riskier for asthmatics. Yes.
Probably best to simply advise that people try their best to smoke zero cigarettes though, right? Right?
I agree but if someone says “I’m eating red meat” but want to understand my risk. Measuring ApoB is a good starting position. If high they can then eat leaner cuts and/or less total red meat and retest.
@@TheProofWithSimonHill is there any reason to believe people eating SOME lean meat would have BETTER APOB than people eating NONE?
If so, then I understand. If not, why hesitate to simply state the obvious? Less meat/mercury exposure is better.
In my view it’s irresponsible to fail to state the obvious on this. Particularly to an audience drowning in caloric surplus. I get it though, if the goal is to sound reasonable and likeable, some dilution of scientific reasoning/accuracy may be necessary.
Zero red meat. It’s that simple there are so many better options.
Meat is all we need and I eat since 6 years. Wonderful.
This guy recommends consuming vegetable oils that are harmful for us, red meat is the most nutrition food. 300-400 per day is what we should eat, not all red meat is high in fat. The studies on red meat were done on people that ate red meat mostly in forms on junk food like fast food burgers. He is based on outdated information.
"The studies on red meat were done on people that ate red meat mostly in forms on junk food like fast food burgers" Got a reference or are we literally just making stuff up at this point?
Lol, could you fit any more lies in one comment?
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Post your sources please.
@@EternalJourneysI think it could be a new record 😁. I'd say they're a bot except the English would possibly be better 🤔