The DRAMA Filled Past of Monstera Obliqua | Pretty in Green Documentary
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 Intro
0:33 When was Monstera obliqua discovered
0:38 Who discovered Monstera obliqua
0:42 Monstera obliqua holotype description
0:52 Where was Monstera obliqua discovered
1:12 Suriname specimen of Monstera obliqua
1:32 Monstera obliqua Peru
1:37 #ItsNeverObliqua
1:48 Monstera obliqua Peru holotype with fenestrations
1:58 Iquitos Peru Monstera obliqua
2:04 Monstera obliqua Nancy Botanical Garden
2:29 cedeno-foneseca 2020 Monstera obliqua
2:33 Marie Selby Botanical Gardens Monstera obliqua
2:36 Enid Offolter of NSE Tropicals
2:46 Tim Anderson of Palm Hammock Orchid Estate
2:55 Plant prices of 2014
3:10 Monstera obliqua Peruvian form prices of 2007
3:32 Humidity for Monstera obliqua
3:55 #FauxBliqua
4:00 Differences between Monstera Adansonii and Monstera obliqua
4:30 The $23,000 Monstera obliqua peru
5:06 Monstera obliqua scams in facebook plant groups
5:12 Monstera obliqua wet stick node pricing of 2020
5:18 Huntington botanical garden theft of Bolivian Monstera obliqua
6:00 The 2020 Plant Bubble Bursting
6:35 The Monstera obliqua Complex Group Price Fixing
7:12 What is Price Fixing?
7:30 Monstera obliqua trends
7:55 2023 Price of Monstera obliqua
8:16 Please subscribe!
In this video, we go over:
Monstera Obliqua Peru
rarest houseplant in the world
most expensive plant in the world
plant theft huntington botanical garden
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Please do more of this
Love this series, and strong influence! Really appreciate the efforts towards research to ensuring transfer of creditable knowledge. Thanks for taking us on the journey with you and sharing insights! After watching this I totally wanted to buy one, and it continues to cross my mind.
PLEASE DO MORE OF THESE!!! There's SO much out there on plant scams just like this (alocasia Jacklyn I'm looking at you) and also with people illegally poaching aroids from different countries and protected habitats and reselling them for exorbitant prices, leading to increases of endangering plant species and habitats.
Wait what’s wrong with the alocasia jacklyn? I was thinking of getting one
Ooooo interesting about Alocasia Jacklyn! I'll have to do some research for her :) Thank you for the suggestion!
@@armandomeza6387allegedly it was poached from a country in southeast asia (maybe indonesia but I can't remember) and was named after said poacher hence "Jacklyn". Its real name is Alocasia tandurusa
@@armandomeza6387it's allegedly poached.
THIS is the discussion of houseplant ethics and drama that I have been searching for! Instant subscriber❤
Thank you 🙏 😊
Right??? It's a great lesson in free market economics (Supply and Demand), regulation, and ethics.
Ah yes, the merging of my two current favorite things…house plants and DRAMA/shade!! I will mainline any of these video you make. Well done sir🫡
These drama videos are EVERYTHING!!! do anthuriums! Ace of Spades might be a great video to make since they used to be tissue cultured and very cheap and now they're hundreds of dollars.
So glad you enjoyed!!! Oooo I’ll have to add Anthurium AOS to the list! I know nothing about Anthurium but I bet Reddit has something 😂
Wait, what’s the drama with anthurium? Now I need to know! I love most anthurium!
@@mmcfadden517 do drama per say but Ace of Spades used to be $4.50 wholesale and now they're hundreds of dollars. I'm currently working on a video about it that should be out soon.
I love these plant scam videos! My wife formerly not interested in houseplants is now drooling over large philodendron with me! Keepemcomin
Wow! Great story. More please!
I love this type of videos! I’ve always been interested in the history of house plants and how they were introduced, and it seems like there is not much stuff like this on yt. Great work!
This has gotta be one of the hyped plants I understand the least, it straight up gives huge trypophobia vibes
I think I might have that thing. Things with holes in specific shapes make me feel sick 🤢 Obliqua always looks like it’s gonna die too
I learned more watching two of your videos than I’ve learned from the hundreds of others I’ve watched…I sure wish other plant YT’rs would create more educational content with actual facts (or at least more informative instead of “look at my new milsbo cabinet”) like this. Subscribed!
I really liked this. I love learning more about plants any and all plants, especially the one we buy for our homes . Thank you for sharing
So nice of you! Thank you for watching!
I just regret paying £450 for a 1 leaf cutting that I ended up killing 6 months later.
I got another one this year because I like the plant for £27 and I feel like a complete tool paying what I paid 2 years ago.
Ahhh don’t beat yourself up! Everyone has a story like that from 2020 😅
You absolutely should feel like a tool, and a failure. And you’re a tool for still wanting one. Your plants are bad and you should feel bad.
@@prettyingreen no everyone does not. Don’t lump everyone in with this kind of stupidity.
Amazing. 👍 I always liked watching your on-camera videos but your voice is your gift. It’s just a fact.
This was a really interesting video!!! I dont know much about plants as im still extremely new, but my gosh i didnt realize how interesting the drama in the plant community could be!!!
PLEASE MAKE MORE OF THESE HOLY SHIT THIS IS ENTERTAINING!
Please make more of these videos.
Incredible video! You've struck gold with this content idea! Please keep these coming.
These mini docs are turning out amazing!
Yes, MORE PLANT DOCS PLEASE!
Dang, this is some high quality content! Your channel needs more recognition! 👏🌱
I think I speak for everyone in the plant community…you are doing the Lord’s work with these vids.
Thank you
I appreciate the amount of work that goes into these. Great job and thank you!
I bought a Peru about 1,5 month ago for 70€ at a plant pop up sale. I observed all the craziness during the pandemic and the prices blew my mind. I got really turned off by them. But for that price I couldn’t leave it there and I truly enjoy it now. In my opinion it’s not that difficult at all. I’m keeping it under a grow light next to a diffuser and it’s doing great and the third new leave is already on it‘s way.
It‘s unbelievable that my plant would sell for thousands of dollars two years ago 🤯
Thanks for tue great video! I just binged all your drama videos. Love them! ❤ subbed
I really enjoyed this video. The history is very interesting. The "price fixing" is even more interesting. There always seems to be someone out there willing to take advantage. I just buy what I like. Never just had to have something just because it was a "fad". I have subscribed for more content like this. Thanks !!!!
Absolutely fantastic video! I hope you do more!
I enjoy these videos. Thanks!
I love love these series! I got hooked on the sprites sancti vid you did haha
I love these plant docs!!! Thanks so much for everything you put into them and presenting them in such a great way. Looking forward to more :)
Ahhh thank you, Natasha! I really enjoy making them. Working on Thai Constellation right now!
Thank you for sharing ❤
Wow. People buying are crazy. Sellers would always be there. I love plants. But it is to be part of their growth journey that satisfies me. It could be a free cutting or a $5 plant. Infact I don't buy plants with loads of tantrums or high prices. For me monstera adansonii is so cool. Why even bother for obliqua.
Love this! The drama in the plant groups alone. One of the bigger bst going political and kicking half the group. Wow.
Immediately subscribed!! I love these types of videos 🙌🏼
Thank you!!
this is fantastic • thank you for making it! subscribed!
So glad you enjoyed! Thank you for the sub 🙌
Great video love the vibe! I hope you do more like this!
Thank you!! I am 😄 Thai con might be next!
Drama and plants, this is my dream channel
Subscribed. Found you from your drama filled past video. Love❤
Thank you!!! I appreciate it 🤗
I completely got turned off after the value of a couple "rare plants" I bought drastically dropped in price, I'm NEVER EVER AGAIN paying anything near a premium price for a plant, THEY WILL ALL DROP IN PRICE, look at spiritus sancti now lol, just be patient and you'll own all the "rare plants" you want.😁😁
I love videos like this. Thank you for all this research ❤
Glad you like them!! They’re fun to make 😄
great job with these videos! So educational and entertaining !
Thank you!!!!
please more of these. they are pretty interesting
Will do!!! I appreciate you watching 😄
Really enjoying this “series” thank you 😊
So glad! Thank you for watching!!
Another great hit!
Thank you!!! ☺️
I really like this, they selling this obliqua way too high before. Others said they have the only rare specimen during the plantdemic😂
Great video! Loving the series so far!
Excellent video. Now, if only I could take my collection back to 2020! 😅
Thank you!!
Amazing work! Love that my country (Surinam) was mentioned 🌱
Absolutely fantastic!! We want moorrrrrreeeeee
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Damn that’s crazy! I never knew they were that expensive! I am selling a rooted cutting for $30 here xD
I love these videos.❤
There's more drama in the plant community than Bitcoin.😂😂😂
I was just gifted an oblíqua. When I got into plants back in 2021 this would be simply unheard of
Agreed!
Interesting !
I never understood the lure of the Oblique. It looks like it's got some nasty disease to me. I did pay $250 for a rootless, mid cut of a Monstera Albo a few years ago. That was the most I ever spent on any plant. But I did learn a very important lesson: I get just as happy watching my "cheap" plants grow as I do the expensive ones. My Albo is doing fantastic, I was even able to share a cutting with my daughter, but I won't pay that much for a plant again.
It is so incredibly similar to Adonsonii I can't believe people paid so much for that!
Some real tulip market drama.
It's a shame that the Bolivian form got overshadowed so drastically, it's a beautiful plant in its own right, like a monstera version of philodendron lehmanii!
Bolivan form is funny. In the jungles down here there is so much variation
@@leoi3031 awesome!
I thought the holy grail of aroids was Spiritus Sancti, like literally.
P. spiritus sancti was definitely always a step above, but about four years ago M. obliqua "Peru" was a pretty close second and was fetching higher prices in certain auctions.
It definitely translates as that and was that for sure. Some ppl call Obliqua that. TBH I copied the title of the PSS vid from last week when I finished at 5am 😂
I'm not sure the world is ready, but you need a talent agent and your own TV show.
Nice video .. again! Would like to see one about the Thai constellation.
Thank you! Thai is definitely on the list 😊
@@prettyingreen first the monster obliqua video and now the tai con video!! thanks allot for the great video!
and now costa farms added it to their trending tropicals!! which i’m guessing means it’ll be in big box stores soon … UGH
Thank you so much for your historical series, I watched your previous one also. I bought a P. Birkin long after its peak price and was very surprised to learn that there had been some scandal about them. Birkins are very easy to grow and I really enjoy mine, but when I tried to research their early history I couldn't find anything about them on the internet. Do you know anything?
i don't know if this is the scandal you're thinking of or if there was something else, but the birkin is an unstable mutation of the rojo congo. at the height of the birkin's popularity and rarity (and price) i do know there was some upset about people's birkins reverting to the (at the time) much more common and much less expensive rojo congo. not so much an issue now that both plants are very cheap.
Amazing and unbelievable 😮. Thank you, and let's hope this will not happen again.
Thank you for watching early 😄🌱
I grow mine in room humidity and it grows fast I got mine for 15 and yes it’s obliqua and I sold a cutting and people thought I was insane for selling it for 5 bucks and they thought it was still thousands of dollars lol
can you do a video on the vickilaminum controversy that happened a while ago
Seen many in the wild here in costa rica
Do a history of anthurium papillilaminum sp.
I think the most horrifying thing in the obliqua story is that Kaylee Ellen pronounces it oblikah
I got the juvenile *peruvian* *_M. obliqua_* for $7 in June 2023 HAHAHAHA
Needa sent me a load of nodes to the uk i was selling them For £150 and people were freaking out . In a bad way. This was a few months before the famous post she made.😊
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Just wanna also add that it's not a finicky plant that requires crazy high humidity lol
Not anymore, but it used to be that way. I don't know if it has to do with tissue culture but the plant that most people have right now seems to be hardier
I’ve also heard this too! I haven’t pinned down the care perfectly, but I’d say it’s an average challenge and average grower
How do you know if what you're getting is actually an obliqua?
Just came from the tik tok 🎉
and all for a plant with so many holes most of what you're paying for is literal air
This account got me all excited about plants. What’s up with that? It’s like CSI plant edition. People be trippin.
#fauxbliqua#fibliqua #sixbliqua
show us your obliqua!
If that’s who I think it is, I used to admin that group because I loved the species but it took a hard turn into a scheme, that and the way she treated respected members of the community was enough for me to block her and dip out
I love these videos ty. Is there a reason monstera deliciosa albos are still so high? Why do i see tissue culture for Thais everywhere but not albos? Is the demand still that high after all this time? I was waiting for the price to come down, it did a little, then went back up again. 😒
albos will never be as cheap as thai cons because their variegation is different. albos do not have stable variegation like thais do which is why thais can be so easily tissue cultured. essentially so long as albos are remotely popular, they will be expensive because creating supply for them is much harder and takes longer.
@@XBOSHIFY443 ty
On point!
@shellym79 yup it’s all to do with lack of stability of variegation on albo. I grow both, and can produce Thai much cheaper
Euphoria in 2020 lol
i never bought a single aroid because im waiting until they are everywhere and the price is negligible lol
Alocasia frydek var. Is beautiful but I'm not paying that kind of money.
This video shows people are crazy.
>investment plant
Ugh.
I think "rare plant" prices need to be regulated.
Hmmm interesting. In the same way I don’t agree with withholding supply to keep prices up, I don’t agree with adjusting supply in collusion to regulate prices. I think the price of Obliqua taught us things always come back to “normal”
I'm 30 seconds into the video. Its sad to see you Americans like this. Obliqua (real one) is USD20 in my country. Its not that rare.
Oh yeah, same prices here now!