I think the best cheap way to capture valuable VHS tapes is to preserve the original resolution, colors, and structure of the picture. One of the most common and totally stable method is to capture with a standalone DVD recorder device and then grab it with a PC and you can do what you want with that mpeg2 content.
They're also not perfect to start with though, and the lossy mpeg2 encoding doesn't help - particularly as they're typically limited to about 15Mbps per second from memory. It's a shame they never seem to allow higher quality recording options, especially for models with a hard disk. Naturally if any editing/enhancement is done it will also have to be recompressed. Even capturing via analog in to DV/firewire out passthrough on a MiniDV or Digital8 camera seems to give slightly better results, in my brief trial. And of course the DV codec is well suited to editing. Some av to hdmi converters seem to just make a better digitization of the analog signal, even with upscaling etc. It is frustrating how difficult it is to get a very good capture in the original resolution and interlacing, especially when TVs etc convert analog video effortlessly and look fine.
Szia!Egy olyan problémába ütköztem hogy kaptam egy Philips VR 170 típusú videókazetta felvevőt amihez vettem egy SCART to HDMI átalakító rendszert amit összekötöttem a Samsung típusú újabb TV-n USB-vel.Viszont csak hang van a videókon mikor elindul a lejátszó, kép nincsen (no signal). A lejátszón a Scarton kívül még van egy aerial cable és egy TV coaxical bemenet (utóbbiban nem vagyok biztos :/).Lehet az a baj hogy még ezt egy mondjuk coaxical kábeles összekötéssel a tv antenna bemenet helyére kellene megoldanom és sikerülne?Fölöslegesen nem akarok sok kábelt venni ezért a te segítségedet kérem.Ünnepekre szeretném a családnak.🥺
@@embergabor Átváltom a gombot 720P-ről 1080P-re a SCART to HDMI átalakítón, maga az átalakító megjelenése a tv-n kiírja a felbontást a sarokban de továbbra is kék kép és no signal, pedig a hang az makulátlanul megy. :((
@@embergabor próbáltam csak simán egy másik TV-n amin van sima SCART bemenet is alapból a TV-n és összekötöttem a videókazetta SCART bemenetével de úgy meg a TV ír no signalt a SCART adásnál.
Hello! What SCART TO HDMI converter is that? Looks great !
3 года назад
Hello! Na nekem is volt alkalmam tesztelni ezt a SCART-HDMI konvertert és nekem nem hozott ilyen élénk színeket. Komponens RGB kábelen átvezetve sokkal színesebb lett a kép és szinkronba került a hang és a kép. Tehát ezzel a SCART-HDMI cuccal a másik szívás azonkívül, hogy széthúzza a képet (pontosabban a felvevő nem támogatja azokat a 4:3-as felbontásokat, amikkel jó lenne a képarány) az, hogy összevissza csúszkál a hang és a kép egymáshoz képest. Lehet, hogy ez egy olyan videónál mindegy, ahol amúgy se mutatják a beszélőt, de ha látod is az embert beszélni és hallod a hangját, akkor elég gáz. Ezt elvileg egy DVD felvevőn lejátszás javítja, legalábbis nálam megjavította. Viszont ott meg jobban vibrált a kép, mint az upscalerrel. Szóval nehéz ügy. Én azt nem értem, hogy ha már mindenféle random 1024×768-akat meg 800×600-akat támogat, akkor azokat miért nem tudja egyrészt 50 fps-ben is, másrészt ha eleve tudták, hogy SCART-on a max. felbontás legfeljebb 576p lehet, akkor miért nem támogatja az eszköz legalább a 480p és 576p felbontásokat? Mindenesetre furcsa.
Thank you very much for this comparison! But you didn't say a word about Audio: digitizing an old VHS tape, I need the original audio too! What is the quality of audio from your Scart to HDMI device? Is it perfectly synchronized?
For me the Scart to hdmi has the audio in sync with the video. I did not experience any problems with this. The quality is good, much better than an EasyCap. With the easycap I had to record the audio directly to PC. I use the scart to hdmi for vhs and for video game consoles too and it works nicely.
@@embergabor O, that's great! Thank you! I've heard a lot of complains about the audio from the cheapest (like that white MINI in your video) upscalers. Gonna try scart to hdmi now.
i have the black MINI and another one made by Nedis (nedis.com/en-us/product/connectivity/video/converters/550670211/composite-video-to-hdmi-converter-1-way-3x-rca-rwy-hdmi-ouput). There's a huge difference in build quality & performance. These are quite good for retro gaming, but not for connecting a vhs player (wobbling effect though sound quality is good, slightly better with the more expensive Nedis one. Don't know if it has to do with the whole aluminum design. Also tried "barrel to usb" cableand it performs the same.
@@embergabor I understand that the famous quality brand EzyCap has been copied from China "EasyCap" devices from China pretend to be EzyCap. Avoid "Easy" and buy direct from EzyCap to avoid getting a cheap nasty copy !!!!
Other scalers or recorders did not have problem with it. It may have unstable sync signal that the av2hdmi does not filter correctly or av2hdmi devices could differ. Yours may have different construction. If it work it is a very cheap solution. Does it have acceptable output quality when playing vhs tapes?
@@embergabor I try and the image shake to me, too. Them, I conect my VHS player to a DVD player recorder, and conect the DVD to the AV2HDMI, and it work, with little loss of quality.
@@filmeantigosptbr5458 Yes VCR's being mechanical can produce unstable signals (not synchronised accurately) . Many DVD recorders can't handle when recording so they have special digitisation electronics to help stabilise the signal. On many DVD recorders if you just loop your problematic video through the inputs and outputs it will still use it's electronics to try and stabilise the video signal, although it may add its own degradation so only use when needed.
Hi, thank you for your work. I've been looking for this solution for months. Could you please show us all cables connections you did? I would like to do it like you did it, but i can't understand english very well without subtitles. thanks.
I don't have a VHS player now but I'll try to borrow one and do a follow-up video. I used Scart-Scart or Scart to RCA cables to connect to the scalers and HDMI cables to the capture device.
@@embergabor hi! Thank you for your help. Let's suppose I have the same stand-alone VHS capture station you show at 2:40, the connections should be the following? VHS player Component-Component Extron dvs 206 (at 2:20) Component-RCA Scaler Konig (at 1:40) Hdmi-Hdmi Video Capture Device EzRecorder 130 (at 0:40) Is It correct?
Sorry for the late response. The connection was like this: VHS player Scart breakout cable (one end is scart the other is RCA yellow,red,white) Yellow RCA (composite video) connects to the Extron with a BNC to RCA adapter Extron DVS204 Extron's Component video output AND the audio from the scart breakout (five RCA cables) Component to HDMI converter HDMI-HDMI HDMI capture
If you can get an Extron that has audio input and HDMI output that would make it much simpler (VHS to extron to HDMI capture)
3 года назад
Szervusz! A 3.-at tervezem én is megvenni, de van a felvevőmön komponens bemenet is. Szerinted egy SCART - komponens kábellel is működhet? Csak mert a SCART HDMI átalakító tizenvalahány ezer, a SCART - komponens kábel meg csak 3 ezer körül van. Vagy akkor bukom a felskálázást?
A scart-komponens (zöld, piros, kék) kábel nem csinál semmit. Vhs kompozit jelet használ. Vagy scart vagy kompozit videó bemenet kell neked (sárga rca).
3 года назад
Aha köszi. És akkor az mire való? Inkább DVD felvevőkhöz?
Nice..plsssss help me I have same but problem is this that when i capture from handycam so results are perfect but when i capture movies from VCR,movie consist colorfull lines or also black n white .i mean not clear movie .why ths I was check all settings who are perfect but problem still found
Hi. When i play my vhs on tv, it doesn’t shake but when i try to use easy cap on my laptop, it shakes. What is the solution here? Im trying to convert my vhs to digital.
Try other tv standards in your easycap settings if possible. PAL/B PAL/G NTSC SECAM. Your TV probably recognizes the signal automatically but the easycap doesn't.
These days one can use AI to upscale old standard definition video, e.g. Topaz Labs Video Enhance AI, with great results. That's why it's crucial to capture the footage in its original resolution, i.e. 576 vertical lines in PAL, with proper deinterlacing. NOT upscaled to 720p or more. You could try it and see what the results are.
@@brettogden6104 we can remux the audio in other software if we need to. Audio is always compressed through video enhance ai to around 96kbps so its crucial to add a direct rip of the audio for best quality after enhancement.
Thank you very much for this video! I would like to ask you about VHS playback. So i experienced myself that an av2hdmi adapter does create this wobble effect during playback of vhs tape like the one you address in your video. This doesn't happen at all when using an av2hdmi adapter with retro consoles. So will a scart2hdmi adapter fix this issue on any new smart tv including a 4K QLED TV?
Yes, the Scart2HDMI has standard output resolutions and handles noisy and unstable video input well. It's highest video output resolution is 1080p but 4k tvs can handle this well.
You need a scart capture device. I don’t know of any. If you only need it for vhs then you can use a composite video capture device and a scart to rca adapter.
@@embergabor Thanks for getting back to me so quick. I was hopeful that there would be a scart upscaler which has a scart or RCA input and USB output on the otherside so I can plug straight into the computer. How did you use the scart to hdmi upscaler to record the vhs?
@@hmahay71 The EasyCap USB capture could be enough for you, it is extremely cheap, has orca input and direct USB output to your computer. It does not upscale but for VHS it is mostly useless, deinterlacing is more important. With the SCART to HDMI I used a separate HDMI capture device to capture the scalers output (this can be a USB HDMI capture card too).
Köszönöm a videót, épp valami egyszerű módszert keresek VHS (főleg S-VHS) videók felskálázására. Kérdéseim: - Van rajta S-Video bemenet? Látom, hogy külön S-Video csatlakozó nincs, de lehet a SCART-on is S-Video. - SECAM felvételeket támogatja, színes lesz a kép a HDMI kimeneten? Előre is köszi! Üdv, Gábor
PAL, NTSC és SECAM jelet is támogat a Scart to HDMI. Sajnos semmilyen s-video képes eszközöm nincs, úgyhogy nem tudom ezt megmondani. Kompozit és RGB-t is kezel Scart-on, így lehet s-videót is, de váltani nem lehet a jelek között (ha van rgb jel a scarton, akkor automatikusan azt használja pl.).
@@embergabor Köszönöm! Nekem nagyon fontos lenne az S-Video bemenet, ezért még nyomozok. Ugyanakkor az RGB bemenet is jól jönne néha, jó tudni, hogy az van rajta. Mert ezen például nincs, viszont ezen van S-Video: www.ebay.com/itm/S-video-RCA-AV-Scart-to-HDMI-Converter-Switcher-3-in-1-Composite-Scart-to-HDMI/164022781406 Illetve ezen is van S-Video, viszont nincs SCART, és nem említi, hogy támogatná a SECAM-ot (bár a tiédről sem írják a terméklapokon, hogy támogatná): www.ebay.com/itm/HDMI-to-Male-AV-S-Video-Adapter-1080P-Video-Converter-Box-with-AV-Svideo-Cable/313002509517 Az is fontos, hogy lehessen váltani 720p/1080p kimenet között, vagy csak 720p-t tudjon. Az 1080p túlzás VHS-hez, és valószínűleg S-VHS-hez is az lenne (bár annál és Hi8-nál azért megér egy próbát). Feleslegesen nagy fájl az eredmény, és nem hoz minőségjavulást. A 720p-re felskálázás hoz javulást, mert bár a valós felbontás nem nő meg, de nagyfelbontású kijelzőn nézve nem lesz pixeles a kép, egy 480p/576p videóval ellentétben. Helyette csak az alacsony felbontású analóg videóra jellemző, homályos kép marad, ami engem kevésbé zavar, mint a pixelesség.
A felskálázásnak leginkább azért van értelme, mert a mai tv-k nem valami szépen kezelik a 720p-nél kisebb felbontásokat. Viszont azt figyelembe kell venni, hogy ezeknél az "olcsó" cuccoknál igazából egy méretre méretez a készüléken belül, és azt húzza rá a választható kimenetre, szóval kb ugyanazt a képet fogja adni 720p-n és 1080p-n is. Nem részletesebb a feldolgozás. Ha igazán jót szeretnél, Akkor vadássz le egy Extron DVS204 vagy DVS304-et ebay-ről. Az tisztességes scalerrel bír, és azokon van kompozit, s-video, RGB, komponens, rgbhv (VGA) bemenet is. Ebből láthatsz egy nagyon cifra kombót a videóban. Ettől sokkal egyszerűbben is meg lehet oldani, ha találsz DVI vagy HDMi kimenetes Extron scalert.
Most VHS Players only output Composite video ,AV out or Scart doesn't matter, they carry the same video signal. So AV to HDMI will work the same way. Your VHS player might correct the sync . Some users report that the AV2HDMI works fine for them.
I have a s-vhs vcr wth tbc etc and i would like to capture my old vhs tapes. my question is should i use svhs into a scart adapter then into hdmi to usb for capturing on my computer. I was in the process of buying svhs to hdmi converter then a hdmi to usb adapter for capturing. thanks if you have an opinion.
I got a problem with 2 capture devices. Both can't get a signal to my VHS Cassette. I connected everything the way it should be and when I open obs and select the video device all I get is a black screen with the text "No Signal". I switched the cables and everything but it just won't get a signal. Maybe it's because I live in a PAL country and the VCRs here can't be used? My VCR only has 2 SCART connections and 2 AV connections (Red and white, no picture only audio). I'm tired of having this problem and I just don't know how to fix it.
I live in PAL region and that in itself is not an issue. Does your VCR actually output video, can you test it with an old tv? If it does it still can be out of spec for the capture devices. I mean that usually the sync can be so far from 50Hz that it cannot be recognized by the capture devices even if an old tv can handle it. Try a different VCR if you can.
@@embergabor My VHS player only has red and white output for audio, so I instead used the SCART plug which you normally use for the TV. Otherwise I have no further options to plug except for video input and that doesn't help. I also tried a different VHS player but it has the same problems and the same plugs, only difference is it's an older one but they both work on TV. I'm starting to think that I just can't digitize videos with my VHS players.
@@luitger7603 What capture device are you trying to use. Some only support 480p and up. It still can be that the signal is not clean enough (sync is not stable).
@@embergabor I used the Mini AV2HDMI but then when I saw your video I tried the SCART to HDMI. They both show me a "No Signal" screen. Is there a way to make the signal clean enough?
@@luitger7603 on the scart to hdmi make sure to select scart input and not the hdmi input (mine had both). I used multiple VCRs and game consoles this way. Is there no signal even when the VCR is empty (displaying static or a menu)?
Hello! I know it's rather unorthodox to ask, but can you confirm if this removes Macrovision from commercial tapes? Have a few macrovision VHS-only titles which I'd like to archive. Best regards
man can I ask you to capture the fast forward mode with no footage on screen? I need that little genuine "FFWD" sign in the corner - can't find it anywhere, would be so thankful if you can help! thank you!
VHS is composite video. You can use any RCA to Scart adapter (yellow, red, white RCA to SCART). www.amazon.co.uk/Scart-Adaptor-Phono-Sockets-Audio-Black/dp/B01N4N07Z9/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=rca+to+scart&qid=1588941379&s=electronics&sr=1-3 something like this
I recently purchased the mini AV to HDMI converter, and i have been getting ghosting and deinterlacing artifacts a lot. I think it is my HDMI to USB that does it. What do you use for the conversion between HDMI and USB?
I used a standalone HDMI capture device and multiple HDMI capture cards as well. Currently using the Elgato HD60S+, it has the best picture quality by far.
@@vanhalenlivemedia5234 You can verify this by plugging the HDMI to a TV or monitor and checking the picture quality there (before converting to usb). I suspect that it is more likely the AV to HDMI causes ghosting (blend deinterlacing?). Usually HDMI to USB only digitizes the image since the AV2HDMI does the deinterlacing already.
I used an external HDMI recorder that records to usb. You can use any HDMI capture card and OBS or on Mac you can even use quciktime player to record from hdmi video input.
I currently have a VCR DVD combo that can output deinterlaced component video from VHS (I tried a component to hdmi converter with it but my better HDMI capture device the Elgato HD60S+ cannot handle it directly which is a shame). I found some combo drives with HDMI output too but they are a little too expensive but they seem to be the easiest way to get godd quality video capture out of a VHS.
VHS tapes record in a format that is somewhere between composite and s-video, so using RGB or Component etc won't necessarily be much better as it will still be converted from the original lower quality signal.
Use a device like the Scart to HDMI in the video. It has HD output. VHS ->Scart to HDMI->HDMI capture card. Don't expect it to be magic upscaling, it will have the same detail as the original tape.
If you want to add detail and upscale I use Topaz Video Enhance software. It uses AI to add detail. It's $300 unless on sale but it works wonders on noisy VHS recordings. You need to experiment with the settings but if you're serious it does work. You can even upscale VHS to 4k. Don't expect miracles but I found it amazing.
None of those methods are ideal, Analog video capture has its own standards, you can’t just treat it like a camera feed, The standard that governs analog to digital conversion is Rec.601, 704x480 NTSC and 704x576 (PAL/SECAM) (720 with the padded horizonatl black pixels). The only two methods that can achieve that is a high quality USB/PCI capture device, or an analog to SDI converter box and then from SDI to USB. Those are the only two methods that adhere to the Rec.601 as used in the D1 standard by Sony back when they made the first analog to digital recording deck using a 3/4 inch digital cassette recording system.
If you have a VCR that has component output or transcode composite to component then you can use an OSSC for example that does analog to digital conversion with the proper timings and color. You can capture the hdmi output of that. Please link those capture devices you mention for others to find. It may help someone to capture beautiful VHS video. Thanks
Do you think hardware analog-hdmi with hw upscale-usb/firewire or analog-sdi with hardware upscaling-usb/firewire do not get better results than software upscale?
Scart to HDMI makes crashed shadows and oversaturated colors, so it is lame device. And besides, it can't make 4:3 picture by adding pillar box. Trash.
@@embergabor fair enough, I wonder if you could use this device as a tbc in the chain before you digitize the signal, judging from the some of the buttons on the front and the lack of digital outputs. Did you slave the signal through another device after the extron ?
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I think the best cheap way to capture valuable VHS tapes is to preserve the original resolution, colors, and structure of the picture. One of the most common and totally stable method is to capture with a standalone DVD recorder device and then grab it with a PC and you can do what you want with that mpeg2 content.
They're also not perfect to start with though, and the lossy mpeg2 encoding doesn't help - particularly as they're typically limited to about 15Mbps per second from memory. It's a shame they never seem to allow higher quality recording options, especially for models with a hard disk. Naturally if any editing/enhancement is done it will also have to be recompressed.
Even capturing via analog in to DV/firewire out passthrough on a MiniDV or Digital8 camera seems to give slightly better results, in my brief trial. And of course the DV codec is well suited to editing.
Some av to hdmi converters seem to just make a better digitization of the analog signal, even with upscaling etc.
It is frustrating how difficult it is to get a very good capture in the original resolution and interlacing, especially when TVs etc convert analog video effortlessly and look fine.
Can you please send a link of the best solution you recommended?
(I think it was SCART to HDMI).
Thanks!
Szia!Egy olyan problémába ütköztem hogy kaptam egy Philips VR 170 típusú videókazetta felvevőt amihez vettem egy SCART to HDMI átalakító rendszert amit összekötöttem a Samsung típusú újabb TV-n USB-vel.Viszont csak hang van a videókon mikor elindul a lejátszó, kép nincsen (no signal). A lejátszón a Scarton kívül még van egy aerial cable és egy TV coaxical bemenet (utóbbiban nem vagyok biztos :/).Lehet az a baj hogy még ezt egy mondjuk coaxical kábeles összekötéssel a tv antenna bemenet helyére kellene megoldanom és sikerülne?Fölöslegesen nem akarok sok kábelt venni ezért a te segítségedet kérem.Ünnepekre szeretném a családnak.🥺
Szia, a scart a jó választás, scart to hdmi-n lehet felbontást állítani, azt meg kell próbálni. A tv írja hogy no signal, vagy az átalakító?
@@embergabor Átváltom a gombot 720P-ről 1080P-re a SCART to HDMI átalakítón, maga az átalakító megjelenése a tv-n kiírja a felbontást a sarokban de továbbra is kék kép és no signal, pedig a hang az makulátlanul megy. :((
@@embergabor próbáltam csak simán egy másik TV-n amin van sima SCART bemenet is alapból a TV-n és összekötöttem a videókazetta SCART bemenetével de úgy meg a TV ír no signalt a SCART adásnál.
@@sirzenoo akkor vagy a scart kábellel nem oké valami (mozgasd meg hátha), vagy a videómagnón kell kimenetet váltani
Hello! What SCART TO HDMI converter is that? Looks great !
Hello! Na nekem is volt alkalmam tesztelni ezt a SCART-HDMI konvertert és nekem nem hozott ilyen élénk színeket. Komponens RGB kábelen átvezetve sokkal színesebb lett a kép és szinkronba került a hang és a kép. Tehát ezzel a SCART-HDMI cuccal a másik szívás azonkívül, hogy széthúzza a képet (pontosabban a felvevő nem támogatja azokat a 4:3-as felbontásokat, amikkel jó lenne a képarány) az, hogy összevissza csúszkál a hang és a kép egymáshoz képest. Lehet, hogy ez egy olyan videónál mindegy, ahol amúgy se mutatják a beszélőt, de ha látod is az embert beszélni és hallod a hangját, akkor elég gáz. Ezt elvileg egy DVD felvevőn lejátszás javítja, legalábbis nálam megjavította. Viszont ott meg jobban vibrált a kép, mint az upscalerrel. Szóval nehéz ügy. Én azt nem értem, hogy ha már mindenféle random 1024×768-akat meg 800×600-akat támogat, akkor azokat miért nem tudja egyrészt 50 fps-ben is, másrészt ha eleve tudták, hogy SCART-on a max. felbontás legfeljebb 576p lehet, akkor miért nem támogatja az eszköz legalább a 480p és 576p felbontásokat? Mindenesetre furcsa.
Thank you very much for this comparison! But you didn't say a word about Audio: digitizing an old VHS tape, I need the original audio too! What is the quality of audio from your Scart to HDMI device? Is it perfectly synchronized?
For me the Scart to hdmi has the audio in sync with the video. I did not experience any problems with this. The quality is good, much better than an EasyCap. With the easycap I had to record the audio directly to PC. I use the scart to hdmi for vhs and for video game consoles too and it works nicely.
@@embergabor O, that's great! Thank you! I've heard a lot of complains about the audio from the cheapest (like that white MINI in your video) upscalers. Gonna try scart to hdmi now.
i have the black MINI and another one made by Nedis (nedis.com/en-us/product/connectivity/video/converters/550670211/composite-video-to-hdmi-converter-1-way-3x-rca-rwy-hdmi-ouput).
There's a huge difference in build quality & performance.
These are quite good for retro gaming, but not for connecting a vhs player (wobbling effect though sound quality is good, slightly better with the more expensive Nedis one. Don't know if it has to do with the whole aluminum design. Also tried "barrel to usb" cableand it performs the same.
@@embergabor I understand that the famous quality brand EzyCap has been copied from China "EasyCap" devices from China pretend to be EzyCap. Avoid "Easy" and buy direct from EzyCap to avoid getting a cheap nasty copy !!!!
Strange, the Av2Hdmi works on my Pal VCR. Maybe it’s just your vcr that makes the video shake, I’m not sure.
Other scalers or recorders did not have problem with it. It may have unstable sync signal that the av2hdmi does not filter correctly or av2hdmi devices could differ. Yours may have different construction. If it work it is a very cheap solution. Does it have acceptable output quality when playing vhs tapes?
@@embergabor I try and the image shake to me, too. Them, I conect my VHS player to a DVD player recorder, and conect the DVD to the AV2HDMI, and it work, with little loss of quality.
In fact, i think the little loss of quality is because of the AV2HDMI.
@@filmeantigosptbr5458 Yes VCR's being mechanical can produce unstable signals (not synchronised accurately) . Many DVD recorders can't handle when recording so they have special digitisation electronics to help stabilise the signal. On many DVD recorders if you just loop your problematic video through the inputs and outputs it will still use it's electronics to try and stabilise the video signal, although it may add its own degradation so only use when needed.
Hi, thank you for your work. I've been looking for this solution for months. Could you please show us all cables connections you did? I would like to do it like you did it, but i can't understand english very well without subtitles. thanks.
I don't have a VHS player now but I'll try to borrow one and do a follow-up video. I used Scart-Scart or Scart to RCA cables to connect to the scalers and HDMI cables to the capture device.
@@embergabor hi! Thank you for your help.
Let's suppose I have the same stand-alone VHS capture station you show at 2:40, the connections should be the following?
VHS player
Component-Component
Extron dvs 206 (at 2:20)
Component-RCA
Scaler Konig (at 1:40)
Hdmi-Hdmi
Video Capture Device EzRecorder 130 (at 0:40)
Is It correct?
@@embergabor excuse could you tell me how you made the connections in the stand alone setup, please?
Sorry for the late response. The connection was like this:
VHS player
Scart breakout cable (one end is scart the other is RCA yellow,red,white)
Yellow RCA (composite video) connects to the Extron with a BNC to RCA adapter
Extron DVS204
Extron's Component video output AND the audio from the scart breakout (five RCA cables)
Component to HDMI converter
HDMI-HDMI
HDMI capture
If you can get an Extron that has audio input and HDMI output that would make it much simpler (VHS to extron to HDMI capture)
Szervusz!
A 3.-at tervezem én is megvenni, de van a felvevőmön komponens bemenet is. Szerinted egy SCART - komponens kábellel is működhet? Csak mert a SCART HDMI átalakító tizenvalahány ezer, a SCART - komponens kábel meg csak 3 ezer körül van. Vagy akkor bukom a felskálázást?
A scart-komponens (zöld, piros, kék) kábel nem csinál semmit. Vhs kompozit jelet használ. Vagy scart vagy kompozit videó bemenet kell neked (sárga rca).
Aha köszi. És akkor az mire való? Inkább DVD felvevőkhöz?
Nice..plsssss help me
I have same but problem is this that when i capture from handycam so results are perfect but when i capture movies from VCR,movie consist colorfull lines or also black n white .i mean not clear movie .why ths
I was check all settings who are perfect but problem still found
Where I can find konig scart ?
Hi. When i play my vhs on tv, it doesn’t shake but when i try to use easy cap on my laptop, it shakes. What is the solution here? Im trying to convert my vhs to digital.
Try other tv standards in your easycap settings if possible. PAL/B PAL/G NTSC SECAM. Your TV probably recognizes the signal automatically but the easycap doesn't.
where did you bought the scart to hdmi converter? there are so many models out there beginning with 10€ and going up and up.
These days one can use AI to upscale old standard definition video, e.g. Topaz Labs Video Enhance AI, with great results. That's why it's crucial to capture the footage in its original resolution, i.e. 576 vertical lines in PAL, with proper deinterlacing. NOT upscaled to 720p or more.
You could try it and see what the results are.
I used 576p with the Extron dvs-204. The results are great but the setup was complicated.
Topaz now includes its own de-interlacing. It's still being tweaked as I write this as the audio doesn't work properly yet but pictures look good
@@brettogden6104 we can remux the audio in other software if we need to. Audio is always compressed through video enhance ai to around 96kbps so its crucial to add a direct rip of the audio for best quality after enhancement.
@@brettogden6104 Version three of Topaz comes out in a week with superior control of interlaced video with proteus controls.
Thank you very much for this video! I would like to ask you about VHS playback.
So i experienced myself that an av2hdmi adapter does create this wobble effect during playback of vhs tape like the one you address in your video. This doesn't happen at all when using an av2hdmi adapter with retro consoles.
So will a scart2hdmi adapter fix this issue on any new smart tv including a 4K QLED TV?
Yes, the Scart2HDMI has standard output resolutions and handles noisy and unstable video input well. It's highest video output resolution is 1080p but 4k tvs can handle this well.
Che marca e?
Hello do you have a link for the scart to hdmi device
Thanks
Hi is there a SCART to HDMI up-scaler which has a USB output which plus straight to the PC for capture rather than HDMI Output?
You need a scart capture device. I don’t know of any. If you only need it for vhs then you can use a composite video capture device and a scart to rca adapter.
@@embergabor Thanks for getting back to me so quick. I was hopeful that there would be a scart upscaler which has a scart or RCA input and USB output on the otherside so I can plug straight into the computer. How did you use the scart to hdmi upscaler to record the vhs?
@@hmahay71 The EasyCap USB capture could be enough for you, it is extremely cheap, has orca input and direct USB output to your computer. It does not upscale but for VHS it is mostly useless, deinterlacing is more important. With the SCART to HDMI I used a separate HDMI capture device to capture the scalers output (this can be a USB HDMI capture card too).
@@embergabor I used the EasyCap and frankly it's useless as you mentioned. Do you have any links of the other devices you mentioned please?
Köszönöm a videót, épp valami egyszerű módszert keresek VHS (főleg S-VHS) videók felskálázására.
Kérdéseim:
- Van rajta S-Video bemenet? Látom, hogy külön S-Video csatlakozó nincs, de lehet a SCART-on is S-Video.
- SECAM felvételeket támogatja, színes lesz a kép a HDMI kimeneten?
Előre is köszi!
Üdv,
Gábor
PAL, NTSC és SECAM jelet is támogat a Scart to HDMI. Sajnos semmilyen s-video képes eszközöm nincs, úgyhogy nem tudom ezt megmondani. Kompozit és RGB-t is kezel Scart-on, így lehet s-videót is, de váltani nem lehet a jelek között (ha van rgb jel a scarton, akkor automatikusan azt használja pl.).
@@embergabor Köszönöm! Nekem nagyon fontos lenne az S-Video bemenet, ezért még nyomozok. Ugyanakkor az RGB bemenet is jól jönne néha, jó tudni, hogy az van rajta. Mert ezen például nincs, viszont ezen van S-Video:
www.ebay.com/itm/S-video-RCA-AV-Scart-to-HDMI-Converter-Switcher-3-in-1-Composite-Scart-to-HDMI/164022781406
Illetve ezen is van S-Video, viszont nincs SCART, és nem említi, hogy támogatná a SECAM-ot (bár a tiédről sem írják a terméklapokon, hogy támogatná):
www.ebay.com/itm/HDMI-to-Male-AV-S-Video-Adapter-1080P-Video-Converter-Box-with-AV-Svideo-Cable/313002509517
Az is fontos, hogy lehessen váltani 720p/1080p kimenet között, vagy csak 720p-t tudjon. Az 1080p túlzás VHS-hez, és valószínűleg S-VHS-hez is az lenne (bár annál és Hi8-nál azért megér egy próbát). Feleslegesen nagy fájl az eredmény, és nem hoz minőségjavulást. A 720p-re felskálázás hoz javulást, mert bár a valós felbontás nem nő meg, de nagyfelbontású kijelzőn nézve nem lesz pixeles a kép, egy 480p/576p videóval ellentétben. Helyette csak az alacsony felbontású analóg videóra jellemző, homályos kép marad, ami engem kevésbé zavar, mint a pixelesség.
A felskálázásnak leginkább azért van értelme, mert a mai tv-k nem valami szépen kezelik a 720p-nél kisebb felbontásokat. Viszont azt figyelembe kell venni, hogy ezeknél az "olcsó" cuccoknál igazából egy méretre méretez a készüléken belül, és azt húzza rá a választható kimenetre, szóval kb ugyanazt a képet fogja adni 720p-n és 1080p-n is. Nem részletesebb a feldolgozás. Ha igazán jót szeretnél, Akkor vadássz le egy Extron DVS204 vagy DVS304-et ebay-ről. Az tisztességes scalerrel bír, és azokon van kompozit, s-video, RGB, komponens, rgbhv (VGA) bemenet is. Ebből láthatsz egy nagyon cifra kombót a videóban. Ettől sokkal egyszerűbben is meg lehet oldani, ha találsz DVI vagy HDMi kimenetes Extron scalert.
I Have a VHS Player that has AV Out, But has No Scart, Using That AV to HDMI Can Still cause that Fram Rate Mismatch?, Thank you!
Most VHS Players only output Composite video ,AV out or Scart doesn't matter, they carry the same video signal. So AV to HDMI will work the same way. Your VHS player might correct the sync . Some users report that the AV2HDMI works fine for them.
@@embergabor Ok, I Might Try One, By the Way, Thank you for Sharing your Idea on RUclips!
@@embergabor Did the Tape Player have an Scart Connector, or Was it using an Adpter to Use the Scart to HDMI?
Hi, I have a HDMI out port at the back of my VHS-DVD Combo, should I use it directly to a HDMI capture card ?
Yes, it is probably a pretty decent quality as these devices often have proper deinterlacing built in and you can just capture the output directly
I have a s-vhs vcr wth tbc etc and i would like to capture my old vhs tapes. my question is should i use svhs into a scart adapter then into hdmi to usb for capturing on my computer. I was in the process of buying svhs to hdmi converter then a hdmi to usb adapter for capturing. thanks if you have an opinion.
Svhs to hdmi is probably better in your case than adapting twice. I don’t have experience with svhs though
I got a problem with 2 capture devices. Both can't get a signal to my VHS Cassette. I connected everything the way it should be and when I open obs and select the video device all I get is a black screen with the text "No Signal". I switched the cables and everything but it just won't get a signal. Maybe it's because I live in a PAL country and the VCRs here can't be used? My VCR only has 2 SCART connections and 2 AV connections (Red and white, no picture only audio). I'm tired of having this problem and I just don't know how to fix it.
I live in PAL region and that in itself is not an issue. Does your VCR actually output video, can you test it with an old tv? If it does it still can be out of spec for the capture devices. I mean that usually the sync can be so far from 50Hz that it cannot be recognized by the capture devices even if an old tv can handle it. Try a different VCR if you can.
@@embergabor My VHS player only has red and white output for audio, so I instead used the SCART plug which you normally use for the TV. Otherwise I have no further options to plug except for video input and that doesn't help. I also tried a different VHS player but it has the same problems and the same plugs, only difference is it's an older one but they both work on TV. I'm starting to think that I just can't digitize videos with my VHS players.
@@luitger7603 What capture device are you trying to use. Some only support 480p and up. It still can be that the signal is not clean enough (sync is not stable).
@@embergabor I used the Mini AV2HDMI but then when I saw your video I tried the SCART to HDMI. They both show me a "No Signal" screen. Is there a way to make the signal clean enough?
@@luitger7603 on the scart to hdmi make sure to select scart input and not the hdmi input (mine had both). I used multiple VCRs and game consoles this way. Is there no signal even when the VCR is empty (displaying static or a menu)?
Hello! I know it's rather unorthodox to ask, but can you confirm if this removes Macrovision from commercial tapes? Have a few macrovision VHS-only titles which I'd like to archive. Best regards
I don’t have any commercial tapes, just home videos, so I cannot verify that.
Have you found an answer?
man can I ask you to capture the fast forward mode with no footage on screen?
I need that little genuine "FFWD" sign in the corner - can't find it anywhere, would be so thankful if you can help!
thank you!
Sadly I don't have the VCR anymore.
@@embergabor ok no problem - thank you for your answer!
podria decirnos como conetar un vhs a un scart y que adaptador gracias
VHS is composite video. You can use any RCA to Scart adapter (yellow, red, white RCA to SCART).
www.amazon.co.uk/Scart-Adaptor-Phono-Sockets-Audio-Black/dp/B01N4N07Z9/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=rca+to+scart&qid=1588941379&s=electronics&sr=1-3 something like this
VHS in HDMI is longer
I recently purchased the mini AV to HDMI converter, and i have been getting ghosting and deinterlacing artifacts a lot. I think it is my HDMI to USB that does it. What do you use for the conversion between HDMI and USB?
I used a standalone HDMI capture device and multiple HDMI capture cards as well. Currently using the Elgato HD60S+, it has the best picture quality by far.
@@embergabor Do you think that the ghosting could be caused by the end HDMI to USB conversion?
@@vanhalenlivemedia5234 You can verify this by plugging the HDMI to a TV or monitor and checking the picture quality there (before converting to usb). I suspect that it is more likely the AV to HDMI causes ghosting (blend deinterlacing?). Usually HDMI to USB only digitizes the image since the AV2HDMI does the deinterlacing already.
@@embergabor I will, Thanks!
@@embergabor It just seemed like on your recording, even though it was distorted it still didnt have ghosting on the AV to HDMI mini
Wich software did you use SCART-HDMI?
i think you can use OBS
I used an external HDMI recorder that records to usb. You can use any HDMI capture card and OBS or on Mac you can even use quciktime player to record from hdmi video input.
Footage with scart to hdmi or component with a high end possible vcr usually will do the trick with best video quality
I currently have a VCR DVD combo that can output deinterlaced component video from VHS (I tried a component to hdmi converter with it but my better HDMI capture device the Elgato HD60S+ cannot handle it directly which is a shame). I found some combo drives with HDMI output too but they are a little too expensive but they seem to be the easiest way to get godd quality video capture out of a VHS.
VHS tapes record in a format that is somewhere between composite and s-video, so using RGB or Component etc won't necessarily be much better as it will still be converted from the original lower quality signal.
How to digitize VHS at HD resolution?
I want to save the wedding tape (memories) of my parents.
Use a device like the Scart to HDMI in the video. It has HD output. VHS ->Scart to HDMI->HDMI capture card. Don't expect it to be magic upscaling, it will have the same detail as the original tape.
@@embergabor, thank you for the quick reply :)
If you want to add detail and upscale I use Topaz Video Enhance software. It uses AI to add detail. It's $300 unless on sale but it works wonders on noisy VHS recordings. You need to experiment with the settings but if you're serious it does work. You can even upscale VHS to 4k. Don't expect miracles but I found it amazing.
None of those methods are ideal, Analog video capture has its own standards, you can’t just treat it like a camera feed, The standard that governs analog to digital conversion is Rec.601, 704x480 NTSC and 704x576 (PAL/SECAM) (720 with the padded horizonatl black pixels).
The only two methods that can achieve that is a high quality USB/PCI capture device, or an analog to SDI converter box and then from SDI to USB. Those are the only two methods that adhere to the Rec.601 as used in the D1 standard by Sony back when they made the first analog to digital recording deck using a 3/4 inch digital cassette recording system.
If you have a VCR that has component output or transcode composite to component then you can use an OSSC for example that does analog to digital conversion with the proper timings and color. You can capture the hdmi output of that.
Please link those capture devices you mention for others to find. It may help someone to capture beautiful VHS video. Thanks
Do you think hardware analog-hdmi with hw upscale-usb/firewire or analog-sdi with hardware upscaling-usb/firewire do not get better results than software upscale?
@@alexanderv.753 QTGMC de-interlace and software upscale is the best.
Why would the SCART device be designed to stretch the picture. That bad design makes no sense.
Because it’s a cheap device and most consumers probably want fullscreen 1080p. This is not the intended use case.
Scart to HDMI makes crashed shadows and oversaturated colors, so it is lame device. And besides, it can't make 4:3 picture by adding pillar box. Trash.
Yet for the price you cannot really get anything better. The contrast and sharpness are a bit much I agree. That is exactly why I wanted the extron.
@@embergabor how much was the extron if I may ask ? I guess its not a still in production unit as well, is it ?
@@maxmustardman298 around $100 used on ebay.
@@embergabor fair enough, I wonder if you could use this device as a tbc in the chain before you digitize the signal, judging from the some of the buttons on the front and the lack of digital outputs. Did you slave the signal through another device after the extron ?
@@maxmustardman298 I just used a component to HDMI converter that doesn't do anything just digitizes the image