Transfer VHS And Camcorder Tapes With An Elgato HD Capture Card

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  • @PhaseDriveVlogs
    @PhaseDriveVlogs  3 года назад

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    • @Alexander-fc3nt
      @Alexander-fc3nt 3 года назад

      *I dont seen difference between you [high priced vhs decoder] and cheapest noname devices from AliExpress (China) for $3* 😂

    • @PhaseDriveVlogs
      @PhaseDriveVlogs  3 года назад

      @@Alexander-fc3nt each to their own...
      If the cheap aliexpress device works for you, then go for it!
      But to me at least, this method produces a better result.

  • @artvjon
    @artvjon 3 года назад +4

    Thank you so much! This was so helpful, we were torn over sending away our old VHS tapes to a company but I had an Elgato and didn't even put the clues together that I could do this myself!

  • @Playstation1
    @Playstation1 3 года назад +4

    This tutorial REALLY helped me out! I was able to convert all my families old video tapes in good quality :) Amazing man! Subbed and thank you xD

  • @MarkHoltze
    @MarkHoltze 4 года назад +1

    UPGRADING to this! Wonderful video dude! Thanks for sharing it!

    • @PhaseDriveVlogs
      @PhaseDriveVlogs  4 года назад

      Ah that's great, glad you liked it 😀
      Keen to see your results with it!

  • @egg2
    @egg2 4 года назад +2

    Great advice thanks. The one thing I'd do differently is record in OBS with the .mkv format because if OBS crashes you don't lose everything you've recorded. With .mp4, .mov, etc, you wouldn't be able to use that corrupted file in the event of a crash or interruption.

  • @thefozzybear
    @thefozzybear 2 месяца назад

    The Elgato uses the Diamond chipset, you can get the Diamond video capture card for less. The IO Data GV-USB2 is better.

  • @TheBjern
    @TheBjern 2 года назад

    I actually have a VHS with a HDMI-connector ,so that should work. Great video, thank you

  • @maxmustardman298
    @maxmustardman298 4 года назад +1

    an even more involved process would be to introduce a stabilizer device between the vhs player and the upscaler, a tbc. This is probably what causes most of the picture drop outs, blue screens, wobbly image and so on. The elgato itself doesn't deal well with the vhs format input, not without a image stabilizer. The Panasonic DMR ES10 would be perfect as a pass trough device from your vhs player to your upscaler. Haven't seen anyone doing a video about those Panasonics using the pass through mode to either stabilize or digitize the material, although it really pays off. You could also get a one of those Panasonic recorders to get rid of the upscaler, as it has an ad converter and tbc on board. It has an HDMI output that would go to your capture card.

    • @maybug
      @maybug 3 года назад

      The DMR ES10 has scart, component, composite and s-video out, but not hdmi :-\

    • @maxmustardman298
      @maxmustardman298 3 года назад +1

      @@maybug the es 10 only acts as a stabilizer for the video feed here, it doesnt digitize, hence no hdmi output. Its not needed in his setup. A device like the dmr eh495 from 2005/6 ish has an hdmi output though and acts as a stabilizer and digitizer. These 2 or 3 third generation panasonic dvd recorders are actually the best consumer devices when it comes to proper 1:1 tape to digital conversion, look out for those, they all basically have an hdmi ouput.

    • @maybug
      @maybug 3 года назад

      @@maxmustardman298 Thank you for the infos!

    • @maxmustardman298
      @maxmustardman298 3 года назад +1

      @@maybug youre welcome

  • @StyleRecordGroupcom
    @StyleRecordGroupcom 7 месяцев назад

    Is the Elgato Game capture Hd, the same as the Elgato HD60 s+ game capture card ? is it the new version

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    @PhaseDriveVlogs  4 года назад

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  • @tubekane
    @tubekane 4 года назад

    Thank you for creating this video, it answered many of my questions.

  • @krrft
    @krrft 2 года назад +1

    i just get a blue screen?

  • @oetproductions8101
    @oetproductions8101 3 года назад

    This video is my bible. Thank you so much! Btw. Which vhs Cam are you rockin? I got a Panasonic Svhs reporter recently. Incredible sturdy for it‘s age.

    • @PhaseDriveVlogs
      @PhaseDriveVlogs  3 года назад

      Aha, well I'm not actually using a camcorder that records direct to VHS if that's what you mean?
      I'm using a Hi8 Sony CCD TR8E Camcorder from 1991, and some of those Hi8 tapes have been transferred to VHS.

  • @FokkerTISM
    @FokkerTISM 4 года назад +1

    I was only able to digitise 2 brand new VHSes and one ex-rental with the GCHD without frame drops. I used the Elgato software to digitise them. Maybe I should re-do those 3 tapes when I get the HDMI upscaler.

    • @PhaseDriveVlogs
      @PhaseDriveVlogs  4 года назад

      Yeah, hdmi upscaler is an important step!
      Also, highly recommend using OBS instead of the elgato software

    • @alexanderv.753
      @alexanderv.753 6 месяцев назад

      @@PhaseDriveVlogs why it is important to use OBS instead of included elgato software?

  • @GabePickles3837
    @GabePickles3837 2 года назад +1

    I nowadays use an HDMI splitter with my Elgato when digitizing my VHS tapes as my VCR has an HDMI cable. Would it work as good as the AV to HDMI converter or is the former more recommended for better video? And I use the main Elgato software to record as well. Would that be a good idea as well? Also, I have faced some issues with the video having glitches and some split-seconds of footage and audio being cut out. I tried lowering my quality settings a bit as an attempt to fix it, but is there anything else that you’d recommend I do to fix it?

  • @SheepFace
    @SheepFace 3 года назад +1

    This is a great video! Do you think that, stead of using an Elgato capture device, a Blackmagic ATEM Mini Pro could get just as high quality?

  • @bt8406
    @bt8406 11 месяцев назад

    if i want to capture old VHS tapes, how much less quality would I get using the white elgato rca from a vcr, (without upscaling) to capture (i use virtualdub) huffyuv raw, then compress after, usually 480p-ish, instead of upscaling, vs runnign through the hdmi elgato and feeding it in upscaled? e.g. i was told the white elgato for vhs capture is probably the best way to go, and understand normally upscaling is causing a loss, but your saying it has good color definition, and cool that it converts it to progressive. I can use yadif deinterlace when i compress the 480pixel capture in my first suggestion. So is there a benefit from using the hdmi converter and upscaling to 1080p vs a 480 sized video and let VLC upscale it? By the way, i play these across the LAN, with file sharing, using VLC as the playback method, so VLC can upscale it for me, when i set it to full screen.

  • @HeroMike17
    @HeroMike17 3 года назад

    Best Video of the month. Ultimate Solution. ThxAloT. BTW: You talk kind of like Ed Sheeran. Just by chance?

    • @PhaseDriveVlogs
      @PhaseDriveVlogs  3 года назад

      I'm actually secretly his second cousin 😉
      Nah not really, I'm just English 😝

    • @HeroMike17
      @HeroMike17 3 года назад

      @@PhaseDriveVlogs really like it! 12 Points from Germany go to Britain

  • @FamauMedia
    @FamauMedia 3 года назад

    Great video man! My mum's just tasked me with digitising all our old Hi8 tapes - the camera still works great so I think this may be the way to go for me. Still weighing up options between an external device like the Elgato or adding a PCIe capture card into my PC - do you have any experience comparing the two?

    • @PhaseDriveVlogs
      @PhaseDriveVlogs  3 года назад +1

      Not tried any PCIe cards as yet, but it's something I'm gonna look into myself.
      Main thing would be to make sure you don't cheap out on it if you want to retain the best quality possible 🙂

    • @Knightmessenger
      @Knightmessenger 3 года назад

      @@PhaseDriveVlogs is there a capture card that has composite and svideo inputs. Many I've seen dont have audio.
      Other external capture devices have the cables you connect to the camcorder/vcr built in.
      Which makes it redundant to use your own composite s-video cables, even if theyre high end and shielded like mine.

  • @MichaelGeorge161
    @MichaelGeorge161 Год назад

    Sadly, the El Gato is not working for me, is not coming up in Device Manager or in the OBS software.

  • @aidan2589
    @aidan2589 8 месяцев назад

    hey. i tried this a few months ago, and i remember us running into a problem where the audio wouldn't record. the most likely reason is because we were using a mac laptop, which does not support using this capture card on obs, and instead requires me to use the "game capture" software to record.
    we're gonna try again here soon, this time on a windows desktop so we can use obs. is this likely the problem? or am i doing something else wrong?

  • @Peter70702
    @Peter70702 3 года назад +1

    Hi Sam, thank's for the great video!
    I am having a weird issue that maybe you could help with? I have OBS experience and a Portta Upscaler, and after all of the setup, i am trying to capture a video. On OBS, the screen displays black, and about every 5 seconds, the video will come in for a split second before disappearing again. It's also in black and white. I did convert a VHS years ago, so i cannot remember if there's perhaps a setting in Elgato itself i have set incorrectly. Does this sound familiar or have any ideas?

  • @amrielVHS
    @amrielVHS Год назад

    If you're technically capturing in 16:9 and squishing it to 4:3, isn't that not as faithful?

  • @garritmadman
    @garritmadman Год назад

    Thanks for sharing this information. I’m curious if I had 2 capture cards can I process 2 at once with OBS?

  • @nasserlukmani1012
    @nasserlukmani1012 2 года назад

    Hello. Great video. I have a high quality VCR but it is old from the 90s. Will the output quality make a difference if I purchase a newer one? Thank you.

  • @zoomdar
    @zoomdar 3 года назад

    Your sample footage looks great. Have you encountered any issues with the audio being out of synch on longer videos?

    • @PhaseDriveVlogs
      @PhaseDriveVlogs  3 года назад +3

      Generally it seems to stay in sync, but something I've discovered more recently with this setup is you need to offset the Elgato audio by about 200-300ms

    • @dave_dw34
      @dave_dw34 4 месяца назад

      @@PhaseDriveVlogs Hi Sam - since you wrote this comment 3 years ago, I'm curious to know if since then you've found any 'bullet proof' methods to ensure the video & audio stay in sync? Would be great to hear any updated methods besides offsetting the elgato audio.

  • @xMarkeo
    @xMarkeo Год назад

    hey pal I am actually having a problem my Streamlabs or obs won't pick up my elgato and I have the same one as you do you know y it'd not picking up ??

  • @Salox
    @Salox 3 года назад +1

    Do you have a link to the one with the output switch? I cant seem to find it on amazon

    • @PhaseDriveVlogs
      @PhaseDriveVlogs  3 года назад +1

      You just need to search for a "scart to rca output switch adapter" on Amazon.
      www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07QG1NM6D/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_SH4Y2MJ0SHZGV2JMJS0K

    • @nasserlukmani1012
      @nasserlukmani1012 2 года назад

      @@PhaseDriveVlogs is the switch needed only when you want to send the signal to a TV? In your final connection to capture, I did not see you use it.

    • @nasserlukmani1012
      @nasserlukmani1012 2 года назад

      My bad. I understand.

  • @Lg-ud5ok
    @Lg-ud5ok 2 года назад +1

    Im not getting audio.

    • @bengarner7173
      @bengarner7173 2 года назад

      Im having the same issue - did you find a solution?

  • @inventivephotography2739
    @inventivephotography2739 3 года назад

    big thank you very informative

  • @ethanismyname
    @ethanismyname 2 года назад

    i did all of this and it works perfectly except i dont get any audio? i've tried messing around with different settings but i still cant figure it out.

  • @igorferreira1999
    @igorferreira1999 Год назад

    Can you connect the camera to the av in with just a cable that is s-video to composite? Or do you really need the upscaller?

    • @alexanderv.753
      @alexanderv.753 6 месяцев назад

      You can out it directly. But upscaler should give better picture.

  • @definitely9353
    @definitely9353 3 года назад

    Great video! I already own an hdmi upscaler and I am trying to decide whether to do this process with OBS and a HD60 pro or to get the Video Capture device itself by Elgato that has the built-in software. Recommendations?

  • @zoomdar
    @zoomdar 3 года назад +1

    To get the footage back in the original 4:3 aspect ratio from the upscaler, is all you're doing changing the canvas size to 4:3? Is any of the original VHS video image lost/cropped by the upscaler or is it just stretched by the upscaler and then the dimensions unstretched in OBS by adjusting the canvas settings and the display capture source in the OBS scene? Thanks for your help :)

    • @PhaseDriveVlogs
      @PhaseDriveVlogs  3 года назад +2

      Yeah, literally just re-stretching it back to original 4:3
      Upscaler stretches to 16:9 to accomodate modern TVs, so you have to reconform it
      As far as I'm aware you don't lose any image from this process

    • @SallyMankus130
      @SallyMankus130 2 года назад

      @@PhaseDriveVlogs When I drag it to 4:3, some of the image doesn't fit within it? Any idea what I need to do?

  • @RetroJay1974
    @RetroJay1974 2 года назад

    I am having some problems with what I have chosen/built. My AV2HDMI seems to work but it introduces some written information on the top right of any video source that is put through it... I then decided to figure out if it was just a thing these av2hdmi devices do! but having a nose through youtube I have discovered that other peoples devices do not do this? Can you please tell me where you got your av2hdmi from? Thanks.

  • @HanysW3Z
    @HanysW3Z 2 года назад

    Hi, is this setup better than amazon video grabber?

  • @remjet2512
    @remjet2512 4 года назад

    Is there any benefit using the S Video jack over the AV RCA cable for improved picture quality?
    It used to make a significant difference when connecting the camcorder to a TV with a S Video jack, back in the day.
    Very informative video. Really wish I'd come across it before purchasing a Pinnacle Dazzle.

    • @PhaseDriveVlogs
      @PhaseDriveVlogs  4 года назад

      Personally, I don't see a huge a mount of difference - it may be a tiny bit sharper at most

  • @Pockieee
    @Pockieee 2 года назад

    I have the component cables that comes with the elgato hd capture card. signal comes through using the elgato software but when I try to use obs all it says is no signal. even though it clearly shows on the elgato capture software! Am I better of trying to just use one of those rca to hdmi or is there something that I am missing?
    edit: I am using the composite cable. so red and white go to red and white and the yellow goes to the red. comes out fine on the game capture software and get the blue screen but not on the obs. just got a screen that says 'no signal'

  • @bengarner7173
    @bengarner7173 2 года назад

    Not getting any audio through from OBS - any solutions?

  • @xHamish99
    @xHamish99 3 года назад

    Hey man, thanks so much for this! I noticed Elgato has a video capture with RCA connectivity as part of it on amazon? Would this have the same affect or would it be worth buying the individual components as you've shown! (Using a MacBook Pro to convert). Cheers!

    • @PhaseDriveVlogs
      @PhaseDriveVlogs  3 года назад

      The one with RCA connectivity would probably be more straight forward.
      But this method allows more control, minimises quality lost in the transfer, and allows the video to be upscaled to a 1440 x 1080 output.

  • @404social
    @404social 3 года назад

    Hi, no matter what i do the VHS is coming through in 16:9 aspect ratio despite it being a 4:3 image which is just stretching it out. I have changed the project size etc, but it's the elgato that seems to be bringing the signal to 16:9 to match the 1080p upscaller. How did you get around that?

    • @PhaseDriveVlogs
      @PhaseDriveVlogs  3 года назад

      You have to manually squeeze it back to 4:3 in OBS
      Alternatively, capture it at stretched 16:9 (it'll be the upscaler that's doing it) then squeeze back to 4:3 in editing software like Adobe Premiere or Davinci Resolve

  • @Roggor
    @Roggor 3 года назад

    Is the upscaler 100% necessary?
    I've tried connecting my VCR via component to the Elgato HD (I've got the extra component cable for retro console recordings) with various male-to-male component leads but no matter what settings I tweak the Elgato never sees the VCR input.
    Would the upscaler be the missing part?

    • @PhaseDriveVlogs
      @PhaseDriveVlogs  3 года назад

      The HDMI upscaler is needed because it converts the analogue signal into a digital one that can be recognised by the Elgato.

  • @unverifiedbiotic
    @unverifiedbiotic 2 месяца назад

    Why use that trash upscaler and potentially ruin the picture if you can rely on the elgato to capture the footage in hogh quality as is and then process it if you need to?

  • @alexey2093
    @alexey2093 3 года назад

    man can I ask you to capture the fast forward mode with no footage on screen?
    I need that little genuine "FFWD" sign in the corner - can't find it anywhere, would be so thankful if you can help!
    thank you!

    • @PhaseDriveVlogs
      @PhaseDriveVlogs  3 года назад

      That'll be a playback setting on the camcorder. Look in the settings menu and there should be some option to disable/enable overlay during TV playback.

  • @tubekane
    @tubekane 4 года назад

    My elgato does not show up in OBS. I have the elgato connected to my iMac via HDMI and the usb also connects to the iMac but OBS does not see the elgato in the Properties for video capture window. Do you connect the HDMI cable to your computer ? Thank you for your assistance

    • @PhaseDriveVlogs
      @PhaseDriveVlogs  4 года назад

      Hi Dennis, it's just the USB cable connected to the computer
      I'm not too sure why it's not being recognised - you might need to check the drivers for the elgato or update the software possibly

  • @oxoMQoxo
    @oxoMQoxo 3 года назад

    At 3:06, what is that device called? I don't think you mentioned the name and just kept calling it "one of these things" 😅

    • @PhaseDriveVlogs
      @PhaseDriveVlogs  3 года назад

      Apologies, it's a SCART to RCA adapter with an output switch

    • @oxoMQoxo
      @oxoMQoxo 3 года назад

      @@PhaseDriveVlogs Thank you so much for the quick reply!

  • @MrPhuckYiu
    @MrPhuckYiu 3 года назад

    Instead of AV(RCA) to HDMI, can I also use SCART to HDMI? Is there any difference?

    • @PhaseDriveVlogs
      @PhaseDriveVlogs  3 года назад

      As long as it has a proper signal conversion circuit, it will work
      You need the upscaler to convert from an analogue to digital signal, otherwise it won't pick up with the capture card

  • @rayowens9142
    @rayowens9142 3 года назад

    Thankyou for tutorial, iv'e been trying to get my old grabber to work on windows 10 from v.c.r player but the results are useless with OBS, VIRTUALDUD2, HONETECH,etc. Most say the software is to outdated. It worked fine on XP to movie maker. This looks a modern way of transfer vhs tapes, as the original Hi 8 tapes were wiped and reused,much like the BBC. Before i splash out on Elgato, can i be sure that it will work with windows 10, and is Elgato plug and play. Thanks. Ray.

    • @PhaseDriveVlogs
      @PhaseDriveVlogs  3 года назад

      Everything shown in this video is all demonstrated with Windows 10 :)
      And the Elgato does require some drivers, but you can easily download any software/drivers from the elgato website

    • @rayowens9142
      @rayowens9142 3 года назад

      @@PhaseDriveVlogs Thanks for promp reply, i will give it a go as nothing else works.

    • @rayowens9142
      @rayowens9142 3 года назад

      update.....I bought the same parts as you had, Gana av to hdmi from Amazon and a second hand (like new, no box) Elgato HD from Cex, all working perfecly, many thanks for video. Transfered some 27 year old vhs tapes which had Hi 8 films on and they looked great.

  • @GavriloPewPew
    @GavriloPewPew Год назад

    Do you need an upscaler if it's S-Video?

    • @alexanderv.753
      @alexanderv.753 6 месяцев назад

      It is the same as rca. So, you need.

  • @iveritnet
    @iveritnet 4 года назад

    what is the "one of these" he introduces at 2:28 ?

    • @PhaseDriveVlogs
      @PhaseDriveVlogs  4 года назад

      It's a switchable SCART to AV adapter (must have an input/output switch to work)

  • @callumjames8495
    @callumjames8495 3 года назад

    Hi - I hope you can help! I’ve plugged my camera into the upscaler via av cables, then hdmi into elgato game capture, hdmi into computer and nothing is showing up when I try to add a video capture!

    • @PhaseDriveVlogs
      @PhaseDriveVlogs  3 года назад +1

      Make sure you've downloaded the Elgato software, I believe that contains the drivers needed. Sometimes also just needs a restart of the PC to get it going

    • @callumjames8495
      @callumjames8495 3 года назад

      @@PhaseDriveVlogs ah yes, will download the elgato software *doh 😅

    • @PhaseDriveVlogs
      @PhaseDriveVlogs  3 года назад

      @@callumjames8495 haha don't worry, I made that same mistake
      I believe the software contains additional drivers or something

    • @20thwonder80
      @20thwonder80 2 года назад

      @@callumjames8495 did you ever figure it out?

  • @boltonic
    @boltonic 3 года назад

    Is there a huge quality different between using the hd capture card and elgato video capture?

    • @PhaseDriveVlogs
      @PhaseDriveVlogs  3 года назад

      I've not used the elgato video capture so I'm not too sure...
      But I know this method means there's virtually no quality degradation due to the HD upscaling. Capturing old tape footage like this using standard definition devices can still lead to quality degradation (in my experience).

    • @boltonic
      @boltonic 3 года назад

      I am using a Mac and when I go to sources, I don’t see elgato. I downloaded the link software just to see if that works and it didn’t. Is there something else I need to install? Everything is hooked up.

    • @PhaseDriveVlogs
      @PhaseDriveVlogs  3 года назад +1

      @@boltonic Might be a driver issue
      Did you definitely download and install the actual elgato software first?
      Mine refused to work until I downloaded all the elgato software (and I did end up having to do a driver update I believe - gotta love fussy capture cards 😝)

    • @boltonic
      @boltonic 3 года назад +1

      help.elgato.com/hc/en-us/articles/360052071492-macOS-Big-Sur-compatibility
      I’m going to try on my MacBook Air which doesn’t have Big Sur to see what happens.

  • @HansensUniverseT-A
    @HansensUniverseT-A 3 года назад +1

    Toss that composite to HDMI converter, really nice way of degrading your image quality, instead get a proper capture card and have everything sent to avisynth where you have full control over the deinterlacing process and so on.

    • @PhaseDriveVlogs
      @PhaseDriveVlogs  2 года назад

      Thanks for the tip!

    • @lartrak
      @lartrak Год назад

      Already has one anyway. You use a dongle in the port to capture composite or S-Video on the Game Capture HD in this video, the port is visible at 3:44 next to the HDMI input.

  • @grindingalldayeveryday
    @grindingalldayeveryday 3 года назад

    help what if i use the s-video port how would i get audio?

    • @PhaseDriveVlogs
      @PhaseDriveVlogs  3 года назад

      You'd still need to use the red and white audio cables via the AV converter
      Tbh, I found the video quality differences were minimal and it was just far easier to stick with the red, white and yellow cables

    • @Knightmessenger
      @Knightmessenger 3 года назад

      @@PhaseDriveVlogs From experience on my video8/Hi8 ntsc tapes, s-video is absolutely better.

  • @distinked3280
    @distinked3280 3 года назад

    have you ran into any issues regarding audio/video synchronization? or audio sync drift?

    • @PhaseDriveVlogs
      @PhaseDriveVlogs  3 года назад

      I find offsetting audio by 200ms solves any audio sync issues