It's crazy that Sentry is being introduced in the MCU while Knull is being introduced by the SU. Looks like they're both going to be depowered by magnitudes.
I do believe carnage returns. Knull is after Dylan brook. And knulls plan is to collect all symbiotes binded to other hosts is a way of escaping apparently by building a kind of pathway. However these would have to be hosts whom have died and rebonded
Idk if u saw this or not but in the scene where the green venom(i think toxin) was describing how terrible their planet was, it showed an ocean of dead symbiotes in their bonded formes with humans, it looked like venom so that was just something i noticed, maybe its just marvel being dumb
0:51 never liked the design choice of having the Klyntar have the white spidey eyes, before ever bonding with Peter. They should just be completely black with a mouth. The only reason Venom took on those characteristics, was because Spider-Man was the most powerful being it ever bonded with, so it mimicked his abilities even after they separated.
@@YuganthanSivashankar tbh, I still don’t like all symbiotes having spidey eyes in general. The only symbiotes who should have the eyes are Venoms spawn, as that makes sense canonically. I guess the argument is that after Venom bonded with Peter, all the symbiotes got the eyes because of a hive mind or something. But that’s still too convoluted. I mean, was the Spider-Man bonding such a pivotal moment in the Klyntars race, that they all just took on his characteristics? Like was a random member of your race bonding with some random being, who just so happens to be a little bit stronger than your average one really that significant? Like haven’t they been around for centuries and you’re telling me, in all that time, not one other symbiote bonded with a being as powerful or even more powerful than before Spider-Man? And if they did, why only chose Spider-Man’s characteristics to mimic for your entire species and not another powerful beings? It just makes zero sense. Venom only mimicked Spider-Man’s appearance after they separated, because it felt a personal bond to Peter and was irrevocably betrayed when he abandoned it. It took the name Venom, because it invoked the imagery of a spider’s venom. Everything about Venom, is revenge against Spider-Man, hence deciding to wear a twisted version of the suit. How is this personal vendetta, supposed to cross over to an entire species of aliens? It’s just stupid and I hate seeing it.
@@TheCelticTiger32 the hive mind argument does sell your point , but I do wonder what would they looked like if venom did not bond with Spider-Man. Spider man is one of the strongest beings and that might have kick started the process. But like you said symbiotes have been around for centuries considering they were created by an all dark being that preceded the Big Bang and bonding with Spider-Man should not result in a huge change in all symbiotes. It seems like the earlier version of venom looked identical to Spider-Man and even had webbing. Through the hive mind, they took on the preferred characteristics of venom while maintaining their own unique powers. The hive mind and codex are connected on a different level.
@@legendofblockparty1858 but then why was Venom so bothered by Peters rejection that it decided to devote the rest of its existence to getting revenge? Wouldn’t Peter have just been another host in a line of hundreds? What made Peter so special? And why would it call itself Venom before meeting Peter? The name Venom is very specifically about spider venom. So you’re telling me, Venom called itself Venom before meeting Spider-Man, and it was just a nice coincidence, because spiders just so happen to have venom, and it fitted perfectly as a name later? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard and way too contrived. That would be like if they made the origin of Joker be that he just randomly legally changed his name to Joker, before ever even meeting Batman, and then have the accident to turn his skin white, coincidentally make him look like a clown 😆 That’s simply just a case of writers being forced to write more venom stories due to its popularity, and retroactively modifying the origin, by shoehorning in nonsensical explanations because they need the Spider-Man characteristic and name to market the book. I’m not that gullible and I can tell when a bad writer has written themselves into a corner.
Thoughts on the theory that US Agent’ll end up being the MCU’s version of Agent Venom? I’m not sure exactly how popular the theory is but I saw it somewhere.
Venom and eddie bonded on a spiritual level, they love each other. They are truly one being now, and knull has never found that before, maybe same mind , maybe same emotions , but never one who valhed the other over the self.
Venom and Eddie also bonded in an emotional level in the comics. There's a story where Eddie is bent over the hood of his broke down car and Venom slithers his way up Eddie's @ss.
I would love to see knull being a creator of sacrificial symbiotes to bond with in order to leave his throne without needing a symbiotes conscious Venom been on the run which is why he was with other symbiotes - they were chasing their lil “brother”
But wait I thought in the first movie after the hospital scene they said that venom was killing Eddie and they eventually came to an agreement for Eddie to host venom?
Knull, the god of the symbiotes in Marvel Comics, is imprisoned by the symbiote hive mind, which he himself created. Over time, the symbiotes (who originally served Knull) rebelled against him, forming a hive mind that kept Knull trapped in a form of deep slumber. Knull needs Venom (Eddie Brock) because Venom is a key symbiote that still holds a significant connection to the symbiote hive mind. Venom’s symbiote has a special status among the symbiotes, and by manipulating or influencing Venom, Knull can access the hive mind to weaken its control over him. Eddie Brock, as Venom's host, also plays a crucial role because the bond between symbiote and host is a powerful one, and Knull seeks to exploit that connection to regain his freedom. Ultimately, Knull uses Venom and other symbiotes as tools to break free from the hive mind and reestablish his dominance over the symbiotes across the universe.
I have a feeling It’s cause he went to another multiverse Like he did with the hole vacation bar sene . And he wants him cause since he did He had the ability and wants it cause Knull is stuck where he is , and can’t physically himself travel outside of where he is anymore And now venom is able to The only symbio to be able to do this
I was one of the camera men for the movie. Eddie dies at the end . This movie sets up spider man and venom but not Tom hollands. Not sorry for the spoiler. I was fired so I’m getting my revenge.
Knull will be great to see on the big screen. Can’t wait.
They better not nurf Knull.....
He’s now a multiverse villain
They kinda have to with ALL characters my guy😂😂😂
He'll be that 5 second clip in the whole movie. That's it. He ain't fighting. 😅
I bet we will be underwhelmed
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Its Sony, what do you think they're gonna do? Definitely getting nerfed like Barney the purple dinosaur
really good theory. great video dude. Im pretty excited to see Venom 3.
Thanks!
I liked the movie. Comic fans need to be logical
Super hyped for Knull.
Venom and Knull will probably be in Spider man 4
It's crazy that Sentry is being introduced in the MCU while Knull is being introduced by the SU.
Looks like they're both going to be depowered by magnitudes.
I was actually quite impressed with knulls look
Much better than Gor
I hope they keep him comic book accurate 🙏
Loved the allegory about the US Gold Rush. I'm a history nerd so that was right up my alley
I do believe carnage returns.
Knull is after Dylan brook.
And knulls plan is to collect all symbiotes binded to other hosts is a way of escaping apparently by building a kind of pathway. However these would have to be hosts whom have died and rebonded
Idk if u saw this or not but in the scene where the green venom(i think toxin) was describing how terrible their planet was, it showed an ocean of dead symbiotes in their bonded formes with humans, it looked like venom so that was just something i noticed, maybe its just marvel being dumb
0:51 never liked the design choice of having the Klyntar have the white spidey eyes, before ever bonding with Peter. They should just be completely black with a mouth. The only reason Venom took on those characteristics, was because Spider-Man was the most powerful being it ever bonded with, so it mimicked his abilities even after they separated.
Then why do the other symbiotes have white spidey eyes?
@@YuganthanSivashankar tbh, I still don’t like all symbiotes having spidey eyes in general. The only symbiotes who should have the eyes are Venoms spawn, as that makes sense canonically. I guess the argument is that after Venom bonded with Peter, all the symbiotes got the eyes because of a hive mind or something. But that’s still too convoluted. I mean, was the Spider-Man bonding such a pivotal moment in the Klyntars race, that they all just took on his characteristics? Like was a random member of your race bonding with some random being, who just so happens to be a little bit stronger than your average one really that significant? Like haven’t they been around for centuries and you’re telling me, in all that time, not one other symbiote bonded with a being as powerful or even more powerful than before Spider-Man? And if they did, why only chose Spider-Man’s characteristics to mimic for your entire species and not another powerful beings? It just makes zero sense.
Venom only mimicked Spider-Man’s appearance after they separated, because it felt a personal bond to Peter and was irrevocably betrayed when he abandoned it. It took the name Venom, because it invoked the imagery of a spider’s venom. Everything about Venom, is revenge against Spider-Man, hence deciding to wear a twisted version of the suit. How is this personal vendetta, supposed to cross over to an entire species of aliens? It’s just stupid and I hate seeing it.
@@TheCelticTiger32 the hive mind argument does sell your point , but I do wonder what would they looked like if venom did not bond with Spider-Man. Spider man is one of the strongest beings and that might have kick started the process. But like you said symbiotes have been around for centuries considering they were created by an all dark being that preceded the Big Bang and bonding with Spider-Man should not result in a huge change in all symbiotes. It seems like the earlier version of venom looked identical to Spider-Man and even had webbing. Through the hive mind, they took on the preferred characteristics of venom while maintaining their own unique powers. The hive mind and codex are connected on a different level.
Venom didn't bond with spider first nor was he the strongest person he met.....venom encountered venom first before spiderman.....
@@legendofblockparty1858 but then why was Venom so bothered by Peters rejection that it decided to devote the rest of its existence to getting revenge? Wouldn’t Peter have just been another host in a line of hundreds? What made Peter so special? And why would it call itself Venom before meeting Peter? The name Venom is very specifically about spider venom. So you’re telling me, Venom called itself Venom before meeting Spider-Man, and it was just a nice coincidence, because spiders just so happen to have venom, and it fitted perfectly as a name later? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard and way too contrived. That would be like if they made the origin of Joker be that he just randomly legally changed his name to Joker, before ever even meeting Batman, and then have the accident to turn his skin white, coincidentally make him look like a clown 😆
That’s simply just a case of writers being forced to write more venom stories due to its popularity, and retroactively modifying the origin, by shoehorning in nonsensical explanations because they need the Spider-Man characteristic and name to market the book. I’m not that gullible and I can tell when a bad writer has written themselves into a corner.
this was close, but instead of "perfect bond" its a codex
Good bye.. Eddie 😢
Thoughts on the theory that US Agent’ll end up being the MCU’s version of Agent Venom? I’m not sure exactly how popular the theory is but I saw it somewhere.
Oh my gosh dude repeats himself over and over again
I'm really excited for Venom 3
Venom and eddie bonded on a spiritual level, they love each other. They are truly one being now, and knull has never found that before, maybe same mind , maybe same emotions , but never one who valhed the other over the self.
Maybe it was Venoms cooking and his interest in his health. This is where Venom is not a "Loser".
Venom and Eddie also bonded in an emotional level in the comics. There's a story where Eddie is bent over the hood of his broke down car and Venom slithers his way up Eddie's @ss.
The Codex is the key that Knulls needs and Wants
to be Free from he’s cage
There is no home planet klyntar means cage
I would love to see knull being a creator of sacrificial symbiotes to bond with in order to leave his throne without needing a symbiotes conscious
Venom been on the run which is why he was with other symbiotes - they were chasing their lil “brother”
Interesting Theory, I can't imagine what Knull would do if he bends Venom under his will.
Can't wait for the movie.
if we get a movie about knull i fucking demand they make one about devil hulks story next
But wait I thought in the first movie after the hospital scene they said that venom was killing Eddie and they eventually came to an agreement for Eddie to host venom?
I haven't seen vemon films but I know about him( vemon I mean)
If knull hated light why did he use fire to make the sybiotes?
Interesting how venom likes heads and knull took the head of a celestial an now he wants venom to be free
Ok, so if we are on board with the beginning where the symbiotes are all coming to find their perfect match then why bring Knull along with you?
i hope venom says f you and eats knull's head like he did to cletus aka carnage
Knull, the god of the symbiotes in Marvel Comics, is imprisoned by the symbiote hive mind, which he himself created. Over time, the symbiotes (who originally served Knull) rebelled against him, forming a hive mind that kept Knull trapped in a form of deep slumber.
Knull needs Venom (Eddie Brock) because Venom is a key symbiote that still holds a significant connection to the symbiote hive mind. Venom’s symbiote has a special status among the symbiotes, and by manipulating or influencing Venom, Knull can access the hive mind to weaken its control over him. Eddie Brock, as Venom's host, also plays a crucial role because the bond between symbiote and host is a powerful one, and Knull seeks to exploit that connection to regain his freedom.
Ultimately, Knull uses Venom and other symbiotes as tools to break free from the hive mind and reestablish his dominance over the symbiotes across the universe.
Can someone please tell me why Knull has a spider symbol on his chest? I don’t read the comic or anything and would like to know
What if knull want venom as his bond because knull where a Symbiotes
Nah knull is coming to wipe everything out
Low key I would not mind have a symbiote as a partner but I would not tell anyone only my close friends
tutle chain
Knull to me is just meh. I was happier when we didn't have 20,000 years of intimate symbiote history
Knull look weak and soft
I have a feeling
It’s cause he went to another multiverse
Like he did with the hole vacation bar sene .
And he wants him cause since he did
He had the ability and wants it cause Knull is stuck where he is , and can’t physically himself travel outside of where he is anymore
And now venom is able to
The only symbio to be able to do this
If this doesn't end in the demise of venom and Brock Sony will make knull look like a punk
That is not very good writing in a whole for the origin of Venom to be a Humanoid, bit anti climatic.
Sony will 100% ruin knull just like disney did with gorr
A great tragedy. Gorr was a great character.
Sony is gonna ruin Knull
"Knull did not create them from godhood." Oh yes he did. He made them from his own shadow. there was absolutely no science involved.
I was one of the camera men for the movie. Eddie dies at the end . This movie sets up spider man and venom but not Tom hollands. Not sorry for the spoiler. I was fired so I’m getting my revenge.
Ok
most likely lying.
@@basketofnugs yeah
Congratulations for your 15 seconds of fame.
@@uwemattiss880 thanks I appreciate it
How can you make a video and be this wrong
The movie isn’t even out and this is just a theory, so we don’t know if it is wrong and even he is it doesn’t matter cause it’s a theory not a scoop