A venom symbiote horror movie... as a horror fan and superhero fan I LOVE this idea. This is a dream come true, honestly I wish they Marvek Zombies a full scale Avengers live action movie tbh. I mean Doctor Strange in the M.O.M was as close as we got to a horror trailer especially with Zombie Strange, felt it set that up and it was epic
So was gorr the god butcher, but they f'ed that up dramatically, let's hope if the show knull they actually show him doing badass stuff and killing things in more than 1 hit. 😂 And if it's gonna be 1 hit it needs to be DRAMATIC
From what it sounds like, by refusing the role of the master of dark threads due to his desire for boundless control, Knull in effect became that very thing he refused. For what is darkness if it is not boundless in it's intent? He is both master and servant to the dark threads of the universe, interwoven with the light. He can never be anything but that which he refused. In fact I think this would have been the only way for darkness to emerge within the tapestry.
I have absolutely no faith at all in them doing Knull justice. Look at what they did to Gorr. I just can’t with Marvel after that, it’s a freaking slap in the face with some of the things they’ve done. I’m sure he’ll be a one off in a solo Spider-Man movie.
the fact the collector reveals in what if that hela also weilds necroswords makes me wonder if perhaps the asgardians crossed paths with knull in the mcu in order for her to aquire them, also the idea of hela being the celestial killer would have been badass to see, the potential space lore they could reveal is actually quite fun based on what we got so far
Asgardians are manifestations of Humanity's beliefs. Being that, Asgardians didn't exist in the times of Creation. Hela couldn't have been the Celestial killer.
Maybe not all of the celestial have adamantium in them but some sort of rare metal and the combined powers of the eternals are like a trigger transmuting that metal into adamantium
Could explain it away it only happens when a birthing celestial passes away during the birthing processes there's so much energy that was released it formed it
I love Marvel stories/movies/shows/comics. But one thing that always kinda erked me was how these ultra-massive beings that literally make the stars, planets, and galaxies end up bested by a guy who is quite literally an ant in comparison.
@tebohojohn6261 that's the point. Knull size wise is puny compared to these literal galaxy formers. How can a living machine that forms galaxys even be hindered by someone like knull
@sergiodominguez9558 because you're limited in your ability to comprehend what REAL power is. When we are talking about things that can control ridiculous amounts of power, to the point they create whole universes or can destroy them, size is kindve irrelevant. Knull is something that was present before the marvel universe was, will be there after it's destruction. Look at Franklin Richard's, a man who can make Galactus his Herald and destroy multiple Celestials at the same time. You gotta let go of the bigger = better pov.
@grandtheftaudio6386 so say Arishim for example were to pop up like he did in the Eternals and just annihilate the planet by crushing it in his monstrous hand while knull is on earth just doing his thing you know being a villan, he'd survive?
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100% with you on that. We've hit the Turtles all the way down stage and it's gone beyond awe-inducing terrible power into a slapstick pastiche of one-upsmanship. There's a reason why we've had millenia of God's, sometimes two-tier, but never any more. Even our ancestors knew that anything higher dilutes the whole pantheon.
I think that there is more then 1 necrosword in the MCU because hela’s sword is a necrosword because the collector in season 1 of what if said that hela had a necrosword
Yes and no hela's is a necro blade but it is not on the same level as knull's All Black (that's the name of the sword btw) as knull's a actual god and a cosmic force he created it from the darkness and himself
@@Daniel-l9z6lBut why are prope autonatically assuming that helas swords and gorr sword is like all black from the conics. Unless shown personally i wint believe as this could be changed for the movies.
It's a shame that Sony & Disney are at odds with each other in their ownership of the material that could lay the groundwork for a film like this. I was just talking to someone about this the other day. The becoming of the Filament. I didn't know that Spider Man jad such a far reaching character backstory.
Yes I agree if both companies could put their human greed aside and think of the money both companies could make from the fans not to mention put a giant foot hold in the comic book industry of movies instead of being known for certain movies and tv shows then the rest is slop. This has to discontinue or as others have said watch the comic book genre live actions die out with no chance of taking off! If I was a ceo of Disney or Sony I’d focus on the fans and it leads to the money nothing complicated about it!
I heard in the comics Knull existed between the sixth and seventh cosmoses. So when the sixth cosmos ended Knull appeared then the seventh cosmos began. I'm not sure where it says this in the comics though.
in the second gotg movie, Ego said he was a floating brain in outer space, i think that was Ego's head and his brain got popped out after someone decaptitated him
Violence was first due to the celestials. What are you talking about? They literally went to war and broke the first firmament so Knull is def not the first pertain to me violent
its fucked up that a saying in a comic book makes the same real sense as real life . as in you cant have one without the other death and life so on and so on. its deep for stories. all because a smarter human made sense of it all.
In the first 2 minutes are already mistakes. God damn Internet. Also: Knull hates light. He IS darkness. So celestials are the enemy since ever. He made the All Black and decapitated the celestial. Video over
THIS as a movie is a terrible idea...or be related to anything to do with spider man or venom is one of the dumbest ideas, the movie will not be good, Knull could be long limbed stable sort of triple joined but stable in space head anywhere on the body shifting.
If disney’s not afraid of R ratings now, they could make one hell of a Knull horror movie
A venom symbiote horror movie... as a horror fan and superhero fan I LOVE this idea.
This is a dream come true, honestly I wish they Marvek Zombies a full scale Avengers live action movie tbh. I mean Doctor Strange in the M.O.M was as close as we got to a horror trailer especially with Zombie Strange, felt it set that up and it was epic
You forgot the K in Knull's name.
@@AlternateMichaelYou spelt Marvel wrong.
@@AlternateMichaelthat would be good
@@cadeshanley218right
Knull is such a badass villian.
Right
So was gorr the god butcher, but they f'ed that up dramatically, let's hope if the show knull they actually show him doing badass stuff and killing things in more than 1 hit. 😂 And if it's gonna be 1 hit it needs to be DRAMATIC
@@Supergusy2000
The God Butcher got Butchered.
Knull in swedish means f*ck
From what it sounds like, by refusing the role of the master of dark threads due to his desire for boundless control, Knull in effect became that very thing he refused. For what is darkness if it is not boundless in it's intent? He is both master and servant to the dark threads of the universe, interwoven with the light. He can never be anything but that which he refused. In fact I think this would have been the only way for darkness to emerge within the tapestry.
Well put.
I have absolutely no faith at all in them doing Knull justice. Look at what they did to Gorr. I just can’t with Marvel after that, it’s a freaking slap in the face with some of the things they’ve done. I’m sure he’ll be a one off in a solo Spider-Man movie.
Facts
Even better, he's going to be a one off in a Venom movie. Because surely there's no way that doesn't go well...
There are so many great stories that will probably never be properly adapted for the big screen
the fact the collector reveals in what if that hela also weilds necroswords makes me wonder if perhaps the asgardians crossed paths with knull in the mcu in order for her to aquire them, also the idea of hela being the celestial killer would have been badass to see, the potential space lore they could reveal is actually quite fun based on what we got so far
Asgardians are manifestations of Humanity's beliefs. Being that, Asgardians didn't exist in the times of Creation. Hela couldn't have been the Celestial killer.
The Dark Elves I think have a connection to Knull.
Havent seen anything to confirm that. @@berserkape1014
If the MCU goes with the Celestial on Earth as the source of Adamantium, then Nowhere would also have the same materials in it
Not exactly, we don't know if they were even birthed from the same planet.
Maybe not all of the celestial have adamantium in them but some sort of rare metal and the combined powers of the eternals are like a trigger transmuting that metal into adamantium
Knowhere was mined out of brain matter and everything else by The Collector it's just a husk now
@@Monkey_D_Luffy56 That would make sense
Could explain it away it only happens when a birthing celestial passes away during the birthing processes there's so much energy that was released it formed it
Knull Literally lived in his head rent free 😂
Let's all be thankful that the writers of this mythos chose a career in comic books instead of doomsday cults.
I love Marvel stories/movies/shows/comics. But one thing that always kinda erked me was how these ultra-massive beings that literally make the stars, planets, and galaxies end up bested by a guy who is quite literally an ant in comparison.
Are you sure about that??
If you knew how powerful knull really is you wouldn't be saying that
@tebohojohn6261 that's the point. Knull size wise is puny compared to these literal galaxy formers. How can a living machine that forms galaxys even be hindered by someone like knull
@sergiodominguez9558 because you're limited in your ability to comprehend what REAL power is. When we are talking about things that can control ridiculous amounts of power, to the point they create whole universes or can destroy them, size is kindve irrelevant. Knull is something that was present before the marvel universe was, will be there after it's destruction. Look at Franklin Richard's, a man who can make Galactus his Herald and destroy multiple Celestials at the same time. You gotta let go of the bigger = better pov.
@grandtheftaudio6386 so say Arishim for example were to pop up like he did in the Eternals and just annihilate the planet by crushing it in his monstrous hand while knull is on earth just doing his thing you know being a villan, he'd survive?
This makes sense since at the end of the last Spiderman film Tom Hardy left a piece of the Venom symbiote in the MCU !!!!
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Avengers and X-Men vs Knull should be a trilogy. Rated-R too 🤷😏😁
A King In Black and the first murder... sounds a lot like Warhammer 40K lore.
Sony already fkd up venom and carnage,MCU did same with Gore 'the god butcher'. so without 'R 'rating there is no hope for Knull.
I think Marvel has gone way too overboard with the idea of cosmic beings. At a certain point, it's like trying to decipher an abstract painting.
100% with you on that. We've hit the Turtles all the way down stage and it's gone beyond awe-inducing terrible power into a slapstick pastiche of one-upsmanship.
There's a reason why we've had millenia of God's, sometimes two-tier, but never any more. Even our ancestors knew that anything higher dilutes the whole pantheon.
Marvel is dead they haven’t made a good movie since end game
“She was a feeble, tiny thing.. That thirsted for power more than any other.”
I was just gonna say from the headline "probably knull" lol then I enter vid and the video leads off with it
Damn knull couldn't you just put up some darkness curtains?
Love it.
I think that there is more then 1 necrosword in the MCU because hela’s sword is a necrosword because the collector in season 1 of what if said that hela had a necrosword
Yes and no hela's is a necro blade but it is not on the same level as knull's All Black (that's the name of the sword btw) as knull's a actual god and a cosmic force he created it from the darkness and himself
@@Daniel-l9z6lBut why are prope autonatically assuming that helas swords and gorr sword is like all black from the conics.
Unless shown personally i wint believe as this could be changed for the movies.
@@vinayakshankar4873 because it's the source material and aside from that we really have nothing to go on without it
I think reason knoll is on earth is that he wants venom to craft necro aword
I believe the god butcher did too in thor love and thunder
It's a shame that Sony & Disney are at odds with each other in their ownership of the material that could lay the groundwork for a film like this. I was just talking to someone about this the other day. The becoming of the Filament. I didn't know that Spider Man jad such a far reaching character backstory.
Yes I agree if both companies could put their human greed aside and think of the money both companies could make from the fans not to mention put a giant foot hold in the comic book industry of movies instead of being known for certain movies and tv shows then the rest is slop. This has to discontinue or as others have said watch the comic book genre live actions die out with no chance of taking off! If I was a ceo of Disney or Sony I’d focus on the fans and it leads to the money nothing complicated about it!
Great video! You always give great information. Great teller of lore.
weirdly embarrassing to be the first person to die
Yup, his fellow celestials was like 'wtf,Knull. Not cool man.'😂😂😂😂
Sounds like a retcon in the making. You mean this happened even before Ta existed? Even before Galactus's world died?
I heard in the comics Knull existed between the sixth and seventh cosmoses. So when the sixth cosmos ended Knull appeared then the seventh cosmos began. I'm not sure where it says this in the comics though.
Wait are we guna get Cosmic Spiderman?
I remember seeing knowhere on screen for the first time and just whispering.. "KNULL...."
Pov : you start a war because you don't like light 💀
The celestials and anyone above planet level always is like “did he destroy the enemy? No he just pushed him very far away”
Bringing multiple imaginations to life. 🎥Friggin' awesome!!
cool video, glad i watched.
So, if Knull was supposed to make balance in the cosmos, and refused, who took on that mantle?
The inifinty stone's
Lady death maybe?
Thanos with a SNAP
The Eventuality in the comics
is that the sword that gor used in thor 4?
Yes
in the second gotg movie, Ego said he was a floating brain in outer space, i think that was Ego's head and his brain got popped out after someone decaptitated him
"Seless-chull" 😂
What were the monsters they were fighting at the end of Thor
It almost seems like they want things to double parallel so they can change it later
Knull is a goat 🐐 😎
Right
Yep
Indeed.
Id like to see the whole king in black story play out in a movie/movies...
Violence was first due to the celestials. What are you talking about? They literally went to war and broke the first firmament so Knull is def not the first pertain to me violent
The bigger question: how the hell did it decay in the vacuum of space?
Null God of Symbiotes.
its fucked up that a saying in a comic book makes the same real sense as real life . as in you cant have one without the other death and life so on and so on. its deep for stories. all because a smarter human made sense of it all.
When did the stupendous wave guy start narrating other channels
I mean the channel name is Marvelous Wave so probably a second channel he has focused on marvel.
sounds like some weird new age gnosticism
A being that size and shape falls down, who's going to pick him up and bury him? What makes you think he didn't die because he was too big?
The symbiote knull killed that celestial
So, in order to defeat Knull, you need a hobbit.
Knull was around before Light itself.
This celestial has no adamantium but the earth celestial does
Marvel no longer makes sense. How about the one above all? Living tribunal. Lucifer. Etc etc
Don't need to watch to tell you. At one point in time. GOD DOOM killed the celestial.
If Knowhere ever crossed into the realm where the body is, could Knowhere come back from death ?
Wakenya mpo?
Probably Knull with the All Black Necrosword.
maybe Titans planets, is where knowhere came from maybe they cut off the head when he was coming out of the planet
In the first 2 minutes are already mistakes. God damn Internet. Also: Knull hates light. He IS darkness. So celestials are the enemy since ever. He made the All Black and decapitated the celestial. Video over
Spiderman: Knowhere Like Home
HOA vs. home owner in a nutshell
So what happens when a Klyntar bonded person reads The Book of Vishanti?
If they send Knowhere’s head over to the other side will it unite with the body and end the twisted afterlife?
What Killed the Celestial that Became KNOWHERE this is very well known as to who did it
KNULL!! NOT KNOLL!!
I thought Knull is an aspect of the cosmic entity Oblivion
I knew it was knull before I even opened the video XD
You are truly great
Horror fears
Definitely was knull
Sony is doing a knll movie
Knull just annoy how rude those Celestial appear and boom boom boom to create manything . destroy his pease
Yeah keeps going and going and going ...the celestials have higher things
what happens to a celestial when they die?
So, going to Nowhere essentially means approaching death. So much potential metaphor here, but we all know it will be wasted.
most likely the god killer armor.
I hope Marvel never use Knull I hate redcon's they are used to just cover up bad writing.
How is Knull a retcon?
Guys, I have something to admit.
I.... I killed that Celestial.
It was an accident. He saw me killing another Celestial and he had an accident....
Knull end of video
Wasnt knowwhere the Celestial Madonna?
Knull killed it
is Null , Mephisto?
No
It was knull
"noll"? Don't you mean "knull"? (also, "knull" in Swedish literally mean "fu*k")
Wow
Knull did.
Galactus ....
So does Knull surpass Oblivion?
Anyone
From what I heard no, some have said Knull is an avatar for Oblivion but I'm not sure where it says this in the comics.
Knull
Before watching this I'm pretty sure Knull killed him
So how the fuck did gorr have the sword in the last thor movie ??
He took it from the previous wielder
Its not a theory 😂. Its confirmed to have been Knull
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Nope.... Wrong call... Waste of Denzel
Knull did it
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THIS as a movie is a terrible idea...or be related to anything to do with spider man or venom is one of the dumbest ideas, the movie will not be good, Knull could be long limbed stable sort of triple joined but stable in space head anywhere on the body shifting.
How the hell knul was able celescial l? Did he became a giant, i mean hes regular human size and can fit in their head.
He used the necro sword it is a god killer it can kill any god plus knull is a dark god himself as powerful as mesphisto
@@YvonneCox-ff4zk thanks
Youre right
What?
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If Disney made a movie about Knull they'd have to make him a girl who only killed one week a month
Knull has nothing to do... Venom is trash