I think this is one of the best videos on youtube. So informative. It depends on how much you drive if you need a faster charger though. I don't drive too often but do every day and have a normal charger and it is 80% just about every time I need to drive. If I had to drive to work every day I would upgrade to the level 2 charger but work at home.
Keep in mind the Nema 14-50 socket is not meant to handle many plugging and unpluggings. Like a dryer, you’re supposed to plug it in and leave it in for years. If you don’t have an industrial Nema 14-50 Outlet like the Hubbell Brand one, there’s risk of fire if you keep unplugging that plug.
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Good advice. Try to keep state of charge below 80%. From what I seen degradation occurs when the state of charge leaves 50% +/- 8%. NCL chemistry does not like to be a’above 80% below 20% for extended periods of time. Therefore, if you are driving a model Y 30 miles a day you should try to keep the charge between 60% and 70%pre departure. If you run it down below 40 or 30%, be sure to plug in when you are finished driving. Also, schedule the charging just prior to departure in the morning. You get the benefit of a precondition battery and the shortest amount of duration with the state of charge above 50%. 32 A is plenty to charge with. This does not apply to lithium phosphate iron batteries.
Myks videos are very informative and was my one stop shop for my Tesla quandary’s. My home charging setup is based off of his recommendations. Thanks again Mike!!✌️🙏
Been a 2022 model 3 long range owner for almost two years. Love the car. But since me and my wife's daily commutes are under 20 miles a day I've been keeping the SOC to 55% daily. When we go out of town then I'll charge up to 90% to 95% the night before. We live in a pretty small isolated town where everything is literally 10 mins away.
Thanks very interesting I'm new to Tesla get my new M3 dual motor on Saturday for Christmas here in Brisbane. Australia, have got the wall charger but not installed yet. I am looking forward to the experience and no more gas stations.
Great video, I've had my MYP for two weeks now and I've done a few range tests. From 85% to 10% I only got 170 miles. 280 wh/mi, no sentry mode, 70 degree weather and barely using ac. Range isn't that good. I supercharge exclusively so having a home charger would definitely make the experience better but it's still an amazing car.
Maybe ur an aggressive driver like my wife. And the MYP only gets 306 max anyways so 280/mile is actually quite good average. Inside steers my wife always averages over 300w/mile while I get 220. We have MYL so how you drive matters a alot.
280 watts per mile tells me you do some freeway driving along with some urban driving. My MYP gets 330 watts per mile in the rain on a freeway @ 75-80 mph, but I only use 220-240 (or less) in suburban FL with a lot of slow speed driving even with plenty of stop lights. Shows how efficient these cars are with regen and little to none heat loss and braking loss of a gas car. Wind resistance is the biggest drain on an EV. They rate these cars just like gas cars, way too high. If you drive super slow you will get 300 miles but realistically exactly what you are getting.
It was very helpful, thank you I just got my car 2 weeks ago and I am so amazed by the car, however, charging worries me, I live in a rental house with no garage, so I can't install the wall charger, I need to drive 14 miles to the closest supercharger everytime.
I think 80 is fine but if you don’t need go 70 especially in summer . Lithium nickel batteries hate sitting at high charge in hot weather . I do 40-70 is summer and 30-80 in winter and that works for my use .
Great video, helpful, thanks. Do you have any recommendations for long term storage? I'm leaving my MYLR plugged into a 240V charger and I going to set the max charge at 60%. I plan on leaving it for 10 weeks. Any thoughts?
The Tesla Wall charger will charge the battery exactly 50% faster than the mobile charger via the 14-50 plug. That mobile charger will not do more than 32 amps, the wall charger can do 48 amps. We are on a time of use plan with the electric company, with pricing at 05 cents per kw on off peak hours, between 10 pm and 5 am.
Thanks for this video, Mike. We just purchased a MYLR and so far it’s been great. Q: Does leaving the car plugged in create the kind of warmth that would attract small animals? I was recently at a Tesla service center and a fellow there was coming in for the third time with a Tesla that had wires chewed by a small animal. He kept the car outside, not in the garage, which is the same as my situation. I know this is unusual, but it’s very real for this owner. Wondering if you have some ideas on this? Thanks.
Good question, The car does heat and cool the battery to keep at a constant temperature so it could attract small animals. I would think this is a concern for most vehicles parked outside and I'm not sure the best way to repel these animals.
If you're lucky enough to have a NEMA 5-20 outlet in or near your garage, you should be able to obtain up to 6-7 miles per hour using your level 1, 16-amp EV charger. However, some EVs, such as the Chevy Bolt, may be limited to 12 amps maximum at level 1! So, if you plug in from 7 PM to 7 AM (off peak), you'll get up to 84 miles of range for your daily driving. That's not bad for level 1 charging! As such, you may not need to install a costly level 2 outlet if you have a NEMA 5-20 outlet available.
Best video in regards to charging. To the point 411. Subbed / Bell checked. Thanks for the 411. This is exactly what I was looking for. Question: Once my Tesla is fully charged, should I keep it plugged in or should I remove the charger ? Thanks in advance.
I let mine sit at 50% state of charge from evening until morning. The lithium ions are balanced between the cathode and anode that way. My driving is very easily scheduled throughout the week so that makes it possible. Over the weekends 50-60% is enough for me most of the time. I put 40k miles a year on the car so I do what I can to not leave it at high states of charge for long, and I almost never supercharge it.
got the 1450 outlet but when charging it only shows 5A and 0kw +0 kwh 0/0A 240V ... any idea what I am doing wrong. I have the mobile charger connected.
My 2021 y with 47,500 miles does the same thing by overcharging . I even see where it under charges by 2 to 3 % sometimes! Tesla said to make sure you don’t have non Tesla apps running. I don’t have any extra apps running. Therefore, it seems Tesla service doesn’t have a solution.
In my area there are many universal ev chargers and I can use an adapter to plug into them, like the J1172 or CCS adapter. Download the the app “plug share” it shows all ev chargers in an area
Tesla's built before model tear 2022 are unable to use DC fast chargers that are not Tesla branded because they do not speak CCS even if the cable is NACS (J3400) or an adapter is used. Tesla only started using CCS communications in 2022. A/C type 2 charging is OK to use non tesla branded A/C chargers.
Hi, great information, I have a 2018 Tesla model 3 and I need to know if I’m driving 65-70mikes a day to go to work and home do I need to charge at 90-100% battery
@@Myksgarage Sweet as I only charge at work which is only 3kms from my place so I’d rather walk when it’s nice out - my only accessible free charger really with living in an apartment.. Just thinking about the trade off of an 8hr charge vs 6kms to and from work each day, but ya usually down to around 60% after the week is up. Thanks for the reply :)
I just got a Model 3 standard plus range. I drive about 80-120 miles a day for my job. Recently had a 240V plug-in installed. I charge every night to about 90% - 95 %. Not sure if that’s good.
Great video! Very helpful. I have a question though: I just got a 2024 Model 3 Highland and when I adjust the % to charge, it tells me " To maintain battery health, keep the charge limit at 100% charge fully once per week." Any thoughts on this?
Nice video, a lot of good info! Just an FYI: A Tesla 14-50 adapter plug will not fit in most standard 220V Dryer's outlet. Most 220V Home dryer outlets are a 10-30 outlet NOT a 14-50 outlet and will require a Tesla 10-30 adapter plug.
The whole range thing is only viable if it's your ONLY car. I kept my gas car so I can alternate between cars and get the most cost effective charging vs gasoline for both 😊 the only way to live until level 4 chargers are built for home use
I’m wondering then if it’s recommended to 80% how much range do actually get from the model 3 long range model then? Online it’s states 330 mile range but I’m assuming that’s at 100% charge at 80% at that point the range is lowered right? What’s the point in getting the long range of you don’t actually get the long range out of it at 80%
I charge my Tesla at 48v. And I just got my model 3 about 3 months ago. And I was just curious, Is charging at a lower amperage better for Tesla? The lower the better? Or is there no difference. What’s been your experience? Thanks in advance!!
Hey, I have a question about home charging. I’m getting mixed feedback from my friends. Should I plug in my Tesla every day, even without charging the car? Some say don't, and some say yes. The manual says to top it off, but I guess I’m not fully understanding what it means. Could you please help me?
there are plenty of studies that show maintaining between 40% and 60% is the healthiest for battery longevity. in your case, because you generally do short trips, this may be a smarter choice for you. BUT maintaining between 20% and 80% is not bad, it is just 40% to 60% is more optimal as far as longevity. so this is really dependent on a person's daily drive habits and their emotional battery range anxiety. at 60%, most batteries have over 150 miles of range, so this is plenty for the average driver (US average is 39 mi per day according to DOT) particulary if the plug in every day.
Hey Mike, quick question from a new Tesla owner. If I leave it plugged in at my home setup (I use the NMA 1450 mobile connector so it charges fully overnight), will it run up my electricity bill? I can easily unplug it after it’s fully charged, just not sure what the best habit should be
Just set the charge limit on the car to 80% and it will stop charging automatically at the set limit, no need to unplug it. It will add some cost to your electricity bill
@@Myksgarage even though you can use the 48 amp? You just lower the amp??? i have a model y long range 2023 and always plug in. Just not sure if ok to use the 48 amp always. Thank you.
Mike - Just thought I'd mention that this (keeping an 80% charge) is very bad advise for Lithium Ion, whether for charging a EV, phone, or anything with Li battery chemistry - if you don't believe me, please do a little research. Its actually best for those batteries, to average around 50%. 80, 90, or more should be rare, perhaps when you start a long road trip. Over time, the charging approach you shared here will significantly reduce the EVs battery life. The inefficient of the charge also increases at the higher limits of the batteries. If you are taking the charge down to 15 on your daily commute, and that's why you need to start with 80, that's OK. But if you are wavering between 60 and 80 routinely - you are unnecessarily stressing the batteries to quell your range anxiety. And maybe you are fine with that - but just be aware.
I would disagree, and so would Tesla. My Model S has been kept at 80% every day for the past 8 years and still has 93% of its original range with over 85,000 miles www.tesla.com/support/home-charging-installation/faq#:~:text=off%20the%20battery.-,What%20percentage%20should%20I%20charge%20the%20battery%20to%3F,%2C%20up%20to%20approximately%2090%25.
@@Myksgarage Yes, Tesla describes it (per your own reference) in this obscure way - keep it in a "daily range bracket" - which is kinda what I said with the 80 to 20 (which averages to 50). I used to evaluate lithium ion battery life for NASA, and I can assure you that 80-60 will degrade your batteries - but you believe what you want - I just felt I should warn your viewers that they might want to look at some Li -ion studies before attempted this as an EVERYDAY strategy.
Caren is very uneducated and ignorant when it comes to Tesla batteries. Charge to whatever you like (just stay 90 or below, 90 is what Tesla says) and you'll be fine. Whatever bogus studies this Karen can come up with won't hold up to the real world experience or myself and lots of people just go to forums. Proof trumps all, and it's been demonstrated countless times that charging daily to 90 will be just fine with your battery with very little degradation even after a decade (like 10% after 10 year if you want an estimate). Stressing yourself about optimal levels to maybe get 9% degradation vs 10 after a decade is ludicrous and this Karen should be locked up for his reckless comments
Driving a car is very bad for it too (wears out tires, bushings, etc). Maybe we should just park them and glance at them from a distance? At some point, idealistic battery preservation is kind of an unrealistic aspiration.
Fact: “Multiple BATTERY ENGINEERS said that the PERFECT charging percentage is 30% - 70%.” (The 20% - 80% is not bad, but that hurt a bit the battery than the 30% - 70%) Also, it is WRONG to always PLUG IT IN all the time, especially if you still have 50%, unless you NEED more mileage. Anecdotal story is NOT better than those engineers who’s in that industry for decades, period.
@@Myksgarage I do "once a month" drive them until 10% then charge it to 100% (then let them sit for some hours, to let the computer do its job). After that, I go back again to 30% - 70%, and their batteries are still both behaving like new. No need to keep on plugging it in every night, unless you need to. (I own a Tesla S & X, and I'm an Electrical Engineer myself)
@@Myksgarage * High temperatures kill batteries. If you go on a holiday/vacation during the summer, leave your vehicle at a low SOC (state of charge). For example, at or below 30% SOC * Cycle within a narrow SOC range. For example: 40-60% rather than 10-80%. The cathode expands and contracts in a wider SOC range, which causes it to break apart. * On that note: The lower the narrower the SOC range, the better. That means charging frequently. * Avoid charging the vehicle above 75% SOC. Above 75% side reactions start occuring that cause degradation. This also reduces the volume expansion issues mentioned * Taking all variables into account, operating between 45-70% SOC, and storage at ~30% is ideal. * Occasional high SOC and wide SOC range are okay! For example, the occasional road trip. * With good thermal management hardware and battery management software, supercharging should have minimal negative effects on cycle life But even y'all will not follow those tips. The battery will not die tomorrow. it is just that there are some small (or big) consequences later on. Have a great day!
I just bought a used 2020 Tesla 3 with 46K miles standard plus (guessing it has 250miles range) so operating 30%-70% means drivable range is 40% which is just 100miles.
@@Btu555 That's for your NORMAL USAGE, then when going for Long Road Trips, then charge it to 100% before you leave your house, then 90% maximum in Superchargers (but 80% is the ideal).
Question: I've been told it's bad to charge the car all the time because the amount of charge cycles you use up. ex: if I plug it in multiple times during the day while running errands and Ive only used 40-50km when in contrast I charge it once to 80% use it till 15% and use only one charge cycle vs using 3-4 charge cycles in a day leading to reaching 1500 charge cycles quicker. Can anybody clarify? maybe I'm wrong?
Do you have your car charging all the time OR do you have it plugged in all the time but only charge when the electricity rates are the cheapest? Also do you have 200A service in your house?
Only have 150amp service at my house, I keep them plugged in all the time. My electricity rate is the same all the time so I don't wait until off peak hours
@@Myksgarage Thanks for the info. Unfortunately I only have 100A service here and the upgrade to 200A is $7500 so I'm going with a 30A dryer connection instead of 50A. But it's 21 miles charge per hour so better than 4.
NOPE! This guy has NO KNOWLEDGE about battery, as he is only using his ANECDOTAL experience. I am engineer myself, and it is WRONG to keep it plug in every night. (I have Tesla S & X)
@@cliffm8846 But Tesla said "Keep your vehicle plugged in whenever possible." Go read it yourself. Should I believe you or Tesla? I tend to believe Tesla.
Y is it called tesla...the real tesla would had ...a way for the vehicle to adleace recharge it self while it's not in drive mode yes these things exactly exist they just don't want u to kno..💯
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I think this is one of the best videos on youtube. So informative. It depends on how much you drive if you need a faster charger though. I don't drive too often but do every day and have a normal charger and it is 80% just about every time I need to drive. If I had to drive to work every day I would upgrade to the level 2 charger but work at home.
Thanks for your positive comments!!
I’m commenting under this video, but truth be told you’ve turned into my Tesla and general diy teacher. Thank you!
Thank you!! I'm glad you're enjoying my videos!!
Keep in mind the Nema 14-50 socket is not meant to handle many plugging and unpluggings. Like a dryer, you’re supposed to plug it in and leave it in for years. If you don’t have an industrial Nema 14-50 Outlet like the Hubbell Brand one, there’s risk of fire if you keep unplugging that plug.
That's a good tip!
Very clear and the video I was looking for. Thanks brother!
I'm glad this helped!!
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I’ve been charging off the 12a 120v the last week. Charged up every morning, works perfect for me. I only do 50 miles a day.
Yeah that should be fine for your situation
@@Myksgarage plus there is 4 different super chargers within 5 minutes of my house if I have to go further. I’ve had no range anxiety at all.
I plug in every night to a 240 outlet. I have it set up to only charge during off peak hours. Ready to go everyday!
That's the way to do it!!
Is there a way to have it charge and auto shut off?
If u have a schedule it will auto shut off at a certain time or when it reaches the charging limit you have it set for
Good advice. Try to keep state of charge below 80%.
From what I seen degradation occurs when the state of charge leaves 50% +/- 8%. NCL chemistry does not like to be a’above 80% below 20% for extended periods of time. Therefore, if you are driving a model Y 30 miles a day you should try to keep the charge between 60% and 70%pre departure. If you run it down below 40 or 30%, be sure to plug in when you are finished driving.
Also, schedule the charging just prior to departure in the morning. You get the benefit of a precondition battery and the shortest amount of duration with the state of charge above 50%.
32 A is plenty to charge with. This does not apply to lithium phosphate iron batteries.
Good info!
Very useful advice thanks - I'm collecting my Tesla Y tomorrow (first ever e-car)
You're going to love it!
Myks videos are very informative and was my one stop shop for my Tesla quandary’s. My home charging setup is based off of his recommendations. Thanks again Mike!!✌️🙏
Glad to hear! Thanks for the support!
Been a 2022 model 3 long range owner for almost two years. Love the car. But since me and my wife's daily commutes are under 20 miles a day I've been keeping the SOC to 55% daily. When we go out of town then I'll charge up to 90% to 95% the night before. We live in a pretty small isolated town where everything is literally 10 mins away.
That sounds like a great way to charge!
You're a natural Myk, and that's from the heart. one this video. I just subscribed to you today. Thank you for sharing your knowledge
Thank you for your kind words!
Thanks very interesting I'm new to Tesla get my new M3 dual motor on Saturday for Christmas here in Brisbane. Australia, have got the wall charger but not installed yet. I am looking forward to the experience and no more gas stations.
Awesome, you'll love it!
Great video, I've had my MYP for two weeks now and I've done a few range tests. From 85% to 10% I only got 170 miles. 280 wh/mi, no sentry mode, 70 degree weather and barely using ac. Range isn't that good. I supercharge exclusively so having a home charger would definitely make the experience better but it's still an amazing car.
Do you get free supercharging?
Maybe ur an aggressive driver like my wife. And the MYP only gets 306 max anyways so 280/mile is actually quite good average. Inside steers my wife always averages over 300w/mile while I get 220. We have MYL so how you drive matters a alot.
@@Myksgarage No I don’t, I charge during off peak hours. Cost $10 and I charge once a week.
@@gozer825 Yeah I just enjoy the car. When it’s battery is low, I charge it. It’s so cheap to charge that I don’t even think about it.
280 watts per mile tells me you do some freeway driving along with some urban driving. My MYP gets 330 watts per mile in the rain on a freeway @ 75-80 mph, but I only use 220-240 (or less) in suburban FL with a lot of slow speed driving even with plenty of stop lights. Shows how efficient these cars are with regen and little to none heat loss and braking loss of a gas car. Wind resistance is the biggest drain on an EV. They rate these cars just like gas cars, way too high. If you drive super slow you will get 300 miles but realistically exactly what you are getting.
It was very helpful, thank you I just got my car 2 weeks ago and I am so amazed by the car, however, charging worries me, I live in a rental house with no garage, so I can't install the wall charger, I need to drive 14 miles to the closest supercharger everytime.
Yeah that's frustrating
You purchased in the wrong order. Should have bought a house first, then a EV.
Excellent video thanks, One question before using the car the next day, do I always precondition it?
You can if you need to get optimal range
Great video thank you.
Yes!
I think 80 is fine but if you don’t need go 70 especially in summer . Lithium nickel batteries hate sitting at high charge in hot weather . I do 40-70 is summer and 30-80 in winter and that works for my use .
That’s a good tip!
Great video, helpful, thanks. Do you have any recommendations for long term storage? I'm leaving my MYLR plugged into a 240V charger and I going to set the max charge at 60%. I plan on leaving it for 10 weeks. Any thoughts?
I would do the same as you're planing
The Tesla Wall charger will charge the battery exactly 50% faster than the mobile charger via the 14-50 plug. That mobile charger will not do more than 32 amps, the wall charger can do 48 amps. We are on a time of use plan with the electric company, with pricing at 05 cents per kw on off peak hours, between 10 pm and 5 am.
Thanks!
Thanks for this video, Mike. We just purchased a MYLR and so far it’s been great. Q: Does leaving the car plugged in create the kind of warmth that would attract small animals? I was recently at a Tesla service center and a fellow there was coming in for the third time with a Tesla that had wires chewed by a small animal. He kept the car outside, not in the garage, which is the same as my situation. I know this is unusual, but it’s very real for this owner. Wondering if you have some ideas on this? Thanks.
Good question, The car does heat and cool the battery to keep at a constant temperature so it could attract small animals. I would think this is a concern for most vehicles parked outside and I'm not sure the best way to repel these animals.
If you're lucky enough to have a NEMA 5-20 outlet in or near your garage, you should be able to obtain up to 6-7 miles per hour using your level 1, 16-amp EV charger.
However, some EVs, such as the Chevy Bolt, may be limited to 12 amps maximum at level 1!
So, if you plug in from 7 PM to 7 AM (off peak), you'll get up to 84 miles of range for your daily driving. That's not bad for level 1 charging!
As such, you may not need to install a costly level 2 outlet if you have a NEMA 5-20 outlet available.
Good suggestion!
Best video in regards to charging. To the point 411. Subbed / Bell checked. Thanks for the 411. This is exactly what I was looking for. Question: Once my Tesla is fully charged, should I keep it plugged in or should I remove the charger ? Thanks in advance.
Thanks for the positive comment, once the car is charged, just leave the plug in, it will stop charging automatically
Nice video, thanks!
Thanks!
Got mine nema14-50 installed along with nema 14-50 mobile connector , total cost 1100
It will be nice to have!
Why so much…? I paid an electrician 300 to put mine
@@johnmungcal6286 depends on length of wire from breaker box & if box needs upgrade or not
Mine was a lot of wire 150 feet+
I let mine sit at 50% state of charge from evening until morning. The lithium ions are balanced between the cathode and anode that way. My driving is very easily scheduled throughout the week so that makes it possible. Over the weekends 50-60% is enough for me most of the time. I put 40k miles a year on the car so I do what I can to not leave it at high states of charge for long, and I almost never supercharge it.
Thanks for sharing your experience
Thank you !
Thanks for watching!!
Good, I’m doing it correctly, thanks.
Nice!!
got the 1450 outlet but when charging it only shows 5A and 0kw +0 kwh 0/0A 240V ... any idea what I am doing wrong. I have the mobile charger connected.
What's the breaker size on your 14-50 outlet?
@@Myksgarage pretty sure 50
I drive 70 miles per day and I have a wall charger, schedules it to charge to 80% from 12am to 5am, is that safe to do daily?
Totally!!
App says 45A. It’s this ok?
Hi Myks how much is your electric bill monthly with your cars ?
Only pay between $20-30/month per car in electricity to charge at home
I just got my Model Y and when I set it to 90 percent and to charge each night after midnight- but when I wake up it is at 94%?
That's odd
That's called 'a miracle'!! 😂
My 2021 y with 47,500 miles does the same thing by overcharging . I even see where it under charges by 2 to 3 % sometimes! Tesla said to make sure you don’t have non Tesla apps running. I don’t have any extra apps running. Therefore, it seems Tesla service doesn’t have a solution.
Do the batteries degrad if you dont use them
My understanding is that yes they still do
@@Myksgarage thanks😀
One Q - how and where can you charge the Tesla with regular (non tesla) chargers?
In my area there are many universal ev chargers and I can use an adapter to plug into them, like the J1172 or CCS adapter. Download the the app “plug share” it shows all ev chargers in an area
@@Myksgarage thank you, sir! Happy NYE celebrations!
Tesla's built before model tear 2022 are unable to use DC fast chargers that are not Tesla branded because they do not speak CCS even if the cable is NACS (J3400) or an adapter is used. Tesla only started using CCS communications in 2022. A/C type 2 charging is OK to use non tesla branded A/C chargers.
Hi, great information,
I have a 2018 Tesla model 3 and I need to know if I’m driving 65-70mikes a day to go to work and home do I need to charge at 90-100% battery
You should be fine at 80% on a dairy basis
Model 3 2024 - Quick question, I don’t have a charger and only dropped to 60% after a week of driving. Is it okay to charge my car only once per week?
Yeah that's fine
@@Myksgarage Sweet as I only charge at work which is only 3kms from my place so I’d rather walk when it’s nice out - my only accessible free charger really with living in an apartment.. Just thinking about the trade off of an 8hr charge vs 6kms to and from work each day, but ya usually down to around 60% after the week is up. Thanks for the reply :)
I just got a Model 3 standard plus range. I drive about 80-120 miles a day for my job. Recently had a 240V plug-in installed. I charge every night to about 90% - 95 %. Not sure if that’s good.
If that's what you need for your daily commute, then you should charge that high
Great video! Very helpful. I have a question though: I just got a 2024 Model 3 Highland and when I adjust the % to charge, it tells me " To maintain battery health, keep the charge limit at 100% charge fully once per week." Any thoughts on this?
You must have the rear wheel drive? Which has the LFP battery chemistry that needs to be charged to 100% on a regular basis so just do that.
Nice video, a lot of good info! Just an FYI: A Tesla 14-50 adapter plug will not fit in most standard 220V Dryer's outlet. Most 220V Home dryer outlets are a 10-30 outlet NOT a 14-50 outlet and will require a Tesla 10-30 adapter plug.
Okay
My 23 model y perfromance charged limit at 16 amp. Howcome is yours 32 amp?
Depends on the outlet your plugged into
@@Myksgarage or due to different type of battery pack? Mine is produced in Berlin factory.
Why would keeping it plugged in a fully charged add to your electrical bill? Your consumption is primarily based on the miles driven.
Correct
Joy!?😂 the 110 connection is fine if you are mostly driving the same 30-45ish daily.
Yeah good point
How much amps on your main panel? 200amps or higher? Thanks!
Only 150
The whole range thing is only viable if it's your ONLY car. I kept my gas car so I can alternate between cars and get the most cost effective charging vs gasoline for both 😊 the only way to live until level 4 chargers are built for home use
Good point
Should it be stayed plugged in charge when I'm out of town 3-4 days?
Yeah I would just set the charge limit to 75% and leave it plugged in
I’m wondering then if it’s recommended to 80% how much range do actually get from the model 3 long range model then? Online it’s states 330 mile range but I’m assuming that’s at 100% charge at 80% at that point the range is lowered right? What’s the point in getting the long range of you don’t actually get the long range out of it at 80%
Well if you get a shorter range like the new RWD which is only 260 miles, you'll only charge that to 80% which is like around 210 miles of range
If you stay between 20-80% charge, then you get 60% of the 330 mile or a bit above 200 miles. Still good IMHO.
I charge my Tesla at 48v. And I just got my model 3 about 3 months ago. And I was just curious, Is charging at a lower amperage better for Tesla? The lower the better? Or is there no difference. What’s been your experience? Thanks in advance!!
There's no difference to the car. I charge lower because I have 3 teslas charging at the same time and don't want to overload my electrical panel
Hey, I have a question about home charging. I’m getting mixed feedback from my friends. Should I plug in my Tesla every day, even without charging the car? Some say don't, and some say yes. The manual says to top it off, but I guess I’m not fully understanding what it means. Could you please help me?
I don't think it matters one way or the other
I didn’t realize the range of a model y from 20-80% was only 120 miles in the winter, does it get better?
Winter is the worst for range, spring and fall should be better
there are plenty of studies that show maintaining between 40% and 60% is the healthiest for battery longevity. in your case, because you generally do short trips, this may be a smarter choice for you. BUT maintaining between 20% and 80% is not bad, it is just 40% to 60% is more optimal as far as longevity. so this is really dependent on a person's daily drive habits and their emotional battery range anxiety. at 60%, most batteries have over 150 miles of range, so this is plenty for the average driver (US average is 39 mi per day according to DOT) particulary if the plug in every day.
Good info! Thanks for sharing
Hey Mike, quick question from a new Tesla owner. If I leave it plugged in at my home setup (I use the NMA 1450 mobile connector so it charges fully overnight), will it run up my electricity bill? I can easily unplug it after it’s fully charged, just not sure what the best habit should be
Just set the charge limit on the car to 80% and it will stop charging automatically at the set limit, no need to unplug it. It will add some cost to your electricity bill
If I charge my car's battery from 30% to 60%, does this count as 1 cycle? Is it bad to do this?
Not sure about the cycle count, but there's no harm in charging up to 80%
Amazing how nice these Teslas look after you delete the chrome.
Yeah it's a big difference
What amp do you use when you plug using the wall charger? Do you use 48 amp when charging? Thanks.
Usually I dial it down to around 30 to 35 A which is still more than sufficient for my charging needs
@@Myksgarage even though you can use the 48 amp? You just lower the amp??? i have a model y long range 2023 and always plug in. Just not sure if ok to use the 48 amp always. Thank you.
Mike - Just thought I'd mention that this (keeping an 80% charge) is very bad advise for Lithium Ion, whether for charging a EV, phone, or anything with Li battery chemistry - if you don't believe me, please do a little research. Its actually best for those batteries, to average around 50%. 80, 90, or more should be rare, perhaps when you start a long road trip. Over time, the charging approach you shared here will significantly reduce the EVs battery life. The inefficient of the charge also increases at the higher limits of the batteries. If you are taking the charge down to 15 on your daily commute, and that's why you need to start with 80, that's OK. But if you are wavering between 60 and 80 routinely - you are unnecessarily stressing the batteries to quell your range anxiety. And maybe you are fine with that - but just be aware.
I would disagree, and so would Tesla. My Model S has been kept at 80% every day for the past 8 years and still has 93% of its original range with over 85,000 miles
www.tesla.com/support/home-charging-installation/faq#:~:text=off%20the%20battery.-,What%20percentage%20should%20I%20charge%20the%20battery%20to%3F,%2C%20up%20to%20approximately%2090%25.
@@Myksgarage Yes, Tesla describes it (per your own reference) in this obscure way - keep it in a "daily range bracket" - which is kinda what I said with the 80 to 20 (which averages to 50). I used to evaluate lithium ion battery life for NASA, and I can assure you that 80-60 will degrade your batteries - but you believe what you want - I just felt I should warn your viewers that they might want to look at some Li -ion studies before attempted this as an EVERYDAY strategy.
Caren is very uneducated and ignorant when it comes to Tesla batteries. Charge to whatever you like (just stay 90 or below, 90 is what Tesla says) and you'll be fine. Whatever bogus studies this Karen can come up with won't hold up to the real world experience or myself and lots of people just go to forums. Proof trumps all, and it's been demonstrated countless times that charging daily to 90 will be just fine with your battery with very little degradation even after a decade (like 10% after 10 year if you want an estimate). Stressing yourself about optimal levels to maybe get 9% degradation vs 10 after a decade is ludicrous and this Karen should be locked up for his reckless comments
Driving a car is very bad for it too (wears out tires, bushings, etc). Maybe we should just park them and glance at them from a distance? At some point, idealistic battery preservation is kind of an unrealistic aspiration.
@@abonetp Yeah - well the bushings and the tires aren't $25K, so Im not buying your argument
You're not charging in off hours?
No I'm not, there's no cost savings for me
It doesn't take 6 days on 120. It takes about 34 hours.
Okay
I charge my model y long range at 80% and it’s drops to 40% in one day
It's dropping that much without driving it?
How about 2400w Solar panels charging ？
That’s a lot of driving!
Thanks bud, Please note your car like mine has a 16 volt battery :)
Model y does?
Fact:
“Multiple BATTERY ENGINEERS said that the PERFECT charging percentage is 30% - 70%.”
(The 20% - 80% is not bad, but that hurt a bit the battery than the 30% - 70%)
Also, it is WRONG to always PLUG IT IN all the time, especially if you still have 50%, unless you NEED more mileage.
Anecdotal story is NOT better than those engineers who’s in that industry for decades, period.
How is it wrong to always have it plugged in? Once it reaches its set charging limit it stops charging
@@Myksgarage
I do "once a month" drive them until 10% then charge it to 100% (then let them sit for some hours, to let the computer do its job).
After that, I go back again to 30% - 70%, and their batteries are still both behaving like new.
No need to keep on plugging it in every night, unless you need to.
(I own a Tesla S & X, and I'm an Electrical Engineer myself)
@@Myksgarage
* High temperatures kill batteries. If you go on a holiday/vacation during the summer, leave your vehicle at a low SOC (state of charge). For example, at or below 30% SOC
* Cycle within a narrow SOC range. For example: 40-60% rather than 10-80%. The cathode expands and contracts in a wider SOC range, which causes it to break apart.
* On that note: The lower the narrower the SOC range, the better. That means charging frequently.
* Avoid charging the vehicle above 75% SOC. Above 75% side reactions start occuring that cause degradation. This also reduces the volume expansion issues mentioned
* Taking all variables into account, operating between 45-70% SOC, and storage at ~30% is ideal.
* Occasional high SOC and wide SOC range are okay! For example, the occasional road trip.
* With good thermal management hardware and battery management software, supercharging should have minimal negative effects on cycle life
But even y'all will not follow those tips. The battery will not die tomorrow. it is just that there are some small (or big) consequences later on.
Have a great day!
I just bought a used 2020 Tesla 3 with 46K miles standard plus (guessing it has 250miles range) so operating 30%-70% means drivable range is 40% which is just 100miles.
@@Btu555
That's for your NORMAL USAGE, then when going for Long Road Trips, then charge it to 100% before you leave your house, then 90% maximum in Superchargers (but 80% is the ideal).
i drive less than 20 miles a day so i dont need the 220volt. so it really depends on your mileage
Yeah you'd be fine plugging into a regular outlet
Question: I've been told it's bad to charge the car all the time because the amount of charge cycles you use up. ex: if I plug it in multiple times during the day while running errands and Ive only used 40-50km when in contrast I charge it once to 80% use it till 15% and use only one charge cycle vs using 3-4 charge cycles in a day leading to reaching 1500 charge cycles quicker. Can anybody clarify? maybe I'm wrong?
I've thought about that as well, it seems as though charging from 50% to 80% a couple times a day shouldn't count as a full charge cycle
Do you have your car charging all the time OR do you have it plugged in all the time but only charge when the electricity rates are the cheapest? Also do you have 200A service in your house?
Only have 150amp service at my house, I keep them plugged in all the time. My electricity rate is the same all the time so I don't wait until off peak hours
@@Myksgarage Thanks for the info. Unfortunately I only have 100A service here and the upgrade to 200A is $7500 so I'm going with a 30A dryer connection instead of 50A. But it's 21 miles charge per hour so better than 4.
I drive a model 3 rwd 2022! I only super charge once in like 5 days to 100% since I live in an apartment. Is that bad or okay?
I'm sure that is fine
I have nema 14-50 charging 32A but recently charging drop to 16A any idea why. I unplug then plug in back to 32A then after 1hr it drop to 16A
That's strange
You mean i can keep it plug in even i already reach 80%?
Absolutely, the onboard chargers will turn off when it gets to the set limit, so it's best to just keep it plugged in all the time
@@MyksgarageThanks.
NOPE!
This guy has NO KNOWLEDGE about battery, as he is only using his ANECDOTAL experience.
I am engineer myself, and it is WRONG to keep it plug in every night.
(I have Tesla S & X)
@@cliffm8846 But Tesla said "Keep your vehicle plugged in whenever possible." Go read it yourself. Should I believe you or Tesla? I tend to believe Tesla.
@@ms1007901
Tesla said!
But it's not the perfect way to save the battery, period.
Teslas with the LFP batteries are designed to be charged to 100%
Yeah that's cool!
Do we keep it 100% as much as possible
Tats a problem all the time it's on charge
Yes
you spent so much to install a Tesla Charger as opposed to installing a simple 210 volt plug.
I have both
tell me you're from utah without telling me
😀
Basically dont buy a Tesla if you dont have a home plug
That would be my recommendation
If you need to then you don’t have a choice.
Yes
Y is it called tesla...the real tesla would had ...a way for the vehicle to adleace recharge it self while it's not in drive mode yes these things exactly exist they just don't want u to kno..💯
That's cool!!
Funny the Tesla tech told me the complete opposite
Oh, so only charge when the battery is at 0%?
You just need to read the manual written by tesla, not listening to a random technician. In the manual it literally says Always Be Charging.