When I was in college with my 5.0 chicks riding would always ask me what's that smell... should it smell like that..? Etc. Etc. I I still got the panties at the end of the night though! LMFAOO! Feminist eat ME!
Man, I just realized that after nearly 40 years of Foxbody ownership, I am absolutely full of stories. I still drive my '93 Notch almost daily and I chuckle at the status these cars have in the minds of some young people. To me a Fox is a simple, rugged economy car stuffed with pickup truck engine. It's an overachiever in the "bang for the buck" category. To the kids at the local drive thru, this thing is a Hemi 'Cuda. The irony here is that when I was their age, I wanted an old musclecar in the worst way. Little did I know that I would purchase my old musclecar when it was brand new, off the dealer lot. High school dream achieved.
Haha absolutely. As a fox owner since 91 I know exactly what you’re talking about. These things were cheap, belly button cars (everyone had one) that were a dime a dozen. Now you never see them on the roads day to day. When you do it’s usually a pos. So when I drive my immaculate electric red 93 LX people lose their minds. I have a grabber blue 13 GT that’s makes 1100hp and people barely blink at it in comparison to my 93.
Iv had my fox for 6 months..I had so many issues with the idle and then rear main seal leak. It ruined the car for me. I wanted go get rid of it. After taking time to learn about it and fix it. I LOVE driving it now. I'm so glad I didnt give up on it
ryu51890 what was wrong with the idle?? Cause I think I might have an idle problem in my 86 and also the rear main seal. There is a small leak that is right next to the transmission, like behind or in between the axle.
Yeah same thing happened with me. I bought a ragged out SN95 5.0 and fixed it up. Got really frustrated when I found out I had to replace the core support. I’ve never welded anything every, but I learned! Ended up selling it for more than half what I had in it and put a down payment on a 2018 royal crimson gt performance pack with black leather Recaro seats and a digital gauge cluster. It’s a 6 speed manual and I’ve heard bad things about them, but so far it’s held up like a champ!!
Not giving up on the fox body are keywords, I came this close to almost getting rid of it,glad I didn't, now it's one of my favorite vehicles that I enjoy driving
One thing that is nice about older cars (including the Fox Body) is that, like you said, they are easier to repair when they breakdown. The more low-tech the things are, the more easier to repair!
Foxbodys , ride like crap ,cant handle , stopping haha thats a joke , rattle traps , bad fuel mileage uh no fuel mileage , noisy .. best dam car ever the most fun , easiest car to modify fun fun fun , its a real car that makes you love it because of its simplicity and just the way that they are . I had an 85gt for 15 years and i miss it , im looking for another one , i want a 85-86 coupe, 85 gt front end capri fenders and quarters ,coyote swap with a whipple and six speed ,bear brakes and good suspension already getting parts together .
If you don't look back at your car. You don't drive a fox body. HAHA. You gotta love it. Sideways in the rain at any moment. Not always intentional. Always working on it. Saving every dime to spend on it. SO MUCH FUN. Reminds me of sport atv. Rear end locked up. O YEA
my old boss back in the late 80s had a green 4 cylinder LX hatchback. it was probably the cheapest on the lot. but there was and hasn't been since another car that look like the foxbody. so that's saying something.
i have a 92 corvette,69 bug,72 karmann ghia,90 foxbody,89 foxbody...and i love driving my foxbodys the most then the vws and the vettes...but the vw are sweet.
I used to own a 1997 mustang, loved every second of driving it. Even though it didn’t have the smoothest ride, things would cling every time after going over a pot hole, the power steering whined I still liked it. After I drove a 2006 vw Jetta and Ford Focus. The ride was way smoother than the mustang but I still liked the mustang. So me personally I like older cars like yeah newer has more luxury and power but to me I’d pick an older car over a newer one any day.
I have spent 8 years with my 01 GT Vert (auto ) silver on silver /black top .. riding in a 84 LX 5.0 Vert and a New Edge is like a modern car with less rattlers lol ..
It almost sounds like you are talking about a daily driver. My Fox is my hobby car. Example, if I was buying a Porsche I would buy an older one any day over a new one. The same for a Mustang. A new one is a dime a dozen. The older ones are with character. However, if I was buying a daily driver, I would buy a newer F150 with a Coyote Motor, which I have because it is more practical, but my push rod 5.0 Fox Mustang sounds so much better! Thanks
As a long time Foxbody owner (got my first one in 1984) I would like to stress one thing only touched upon in this video. If you are going to own an old car, any old car, you had better be mechanically inclined and ready to "embrace the suck" or have a big bank account. When you own an old car, you will find that as soon as you fix one thing, another thing will go wrong. You need to take it upon yourself to learn everything you can about the car's various systems so you can stay on top of all that stuff. Otherwise, you'll have to pay someone else to do it and not everyone has a Jay Leno or Tyler Hoover budget. Don't forget the cost of tools in that budget. You will need them.
I'll sum it up simply: if you are the kind of guy that doesn't like to spin your own wrenches, stick with a newer car. I've owned my 4 eye for 26 years now and I think there is hardly a fastener that I haven't used a tool on.
The awesome thing about them is you can do everything yourself on them. My '85 four eye went through T5's like friggin candy plus that 7.5" rear end was crap so I spent a bit of time underneath replacing them, I can't imagine wrenching on the rear of my S550.
You have a 85 ? I need some help and advise on my build... Roller Motors seem to be tough to get parts for. at least when i enter 1985 in search lol. I am lookin for the complete gasket kit and don't see one with a full oil pan gasket...lil things like that drive me nuts hahaha all the aluminum heads have 2.02 intake valves and worried about clearance... spring pressure too...600 would be ideal and everyone sells heads with .500 that's close with the E303 cam I bought...
@@wildbillo68 - I haven't had a Fox body for 22 years, sadly I sold the '85 Notch 3 years after buying it which was stupid but live and learn. My '85 GT I bought in 1993, the motor was weak so I bought a brand new 306 shortblock from Jegs along with GT40 heads, an E cam and headers, it ran mid 12's which wasn't bad for the time. You should be able to pick up gasket kits from every auto parts store out there. Summit has "Fel-Pro Oil Pan Gasket SFLOS13260T" for $33.00, they have everything for those engines.
I owned an 88 GT as a teen and im now 44 and purchased an 86 GT. In 2 years ive put less than 50 miles on the 80k odometer reading. Ive stripped the car and almost finished painting the jambs, engine bay, underside of hood and hatch, and all parts that wont get coverage when the car is put back together. Im spraying a Candy Pearl Apple Red. Anyways, my question is what performance upgrades should i consider? It has flowmaster mufflers, kbb headers, caster-camber plates with 3 point brace, sits on lowering springs with p275 in the rear p245 up front. What other upgrades should i start with?
i have had christine since 1992. i was 23 years old. she is my baby.. 2wives later and a war later she is still with me.. nothing like her.. even my 3rd wife loves her.... its a freakin love like no other...
I know all about that Lincoln air ride suspension not working (I had (4) Mark VII's). Looked sweet sitting low, but GOT-DAMM (the ride was horrible!). Matter of fact, the air ride on the last '86 I had half a** semi worked. The Lincoln Mark VII phase came way before my ownership of Mustangs (much more affordable for a teenager at that time). Matter of fact. All 4 of them were bought from me noticing them having sat for a while in driveways/yards. Not a (1) of them was found from an online classified ad. Would just knock on doors back then and ask. All of them cars I wound up buying for next to nothing!!! Im on my 3rd fox body now. Vermillion red '90 LX 25th Anniversary 5.0 Convertible. I absolutely love it. Far as I'm concerned, the fox is without a doubt my preffered Mustang (especially the '87-'93). I had a 65 junker and a rough yet very potential 66 Mustang (both coupes). I could have whipped that 66 into shape, but I couldn't fool myself. I'm just a fox body guy at heart (the Lincoln Mark VII was a good "introduction" into the Fox Body Mustang world for me anyway. Nowhere near my appreciation towards the fox stang, but I really liked that car and have found memories of it (like the battery blowing up while my father was driving it due to a faulty voltage Regulator!). That one in particular was a green 1st year '84 "Continental" Mark VII LSC with a carbureted 302........(paid 200 bucks for it).
There is something about owning and working on old VW bugs, British sports cars or older Jeeps exc. You have a investment in your time, sweat and money that you put into these cars, so yes the car becomes part of you and your life. A Foxbody is no different. Unfortunately I ran out of time, so I have a 2015 mustang gt.
Owned a 82..a 84 gt t-top and now a 90 gt...i grew up in the 80s and early 90s...fox body mustang was our shit then and still is now for most of us..well for me anyways!!
I totally agree. Being a OG foxbody guy for over 20 years. I drove some of the newer cars and not a big fan even though they are super amazing. Love the old school
Got 2 foxbodies for sale ... Im unable to finsish either want to sell to another foxbody fan. 1 82 mercury capri,non op. Motor has all machine work done , assembled shortblock. Was a daily driver before i began restoring , pulled engine , cleaned engine bay (media blasted and sealed) . 4speed trans, pulled and cleaned. Small rear end (not an 8.8) its factory . 2.83 gears i believe. Other car is 87 GT speed density car . Roller with cowl hood & 4 lug black cobras .no motor or trans , back tags. Both cars are in bakersfield . Need both gone asap. Respond to this if willing to meet in person and pickup or i can help coordinte shipping.
Back in '85 It was my dad's car and I started driving it. I ended up inheriting it when my dad got himself a new car. We sold it in 1995. My dad had something in his eye the day we let it go. I've been thinking that a manual one would be a great first car for my 15 year old kid. As a father & son project. They are challenging to drive. Brakes lock and they tend to drift on a moment notice. Once you get used to their "character" they are agile little 8 cylinder monsters! ⚡️
4 year old comment but ill say thats a lot of horsepower for a teenager, and odds are they will drink and or try and impress their friends at some point.
This video is on point! Whining power steering. Somewhat smell like exhaust when you get out. Feel every imperfection in the road. I definitely got the fever. I put 175 miles on mine just yesterday riding to Wilmington NC and back. I saw hundreds of SN95 and newer but only 1 other Foxbody! We both gave a thumbs up because we knew we were in a class of our own! Good Video Caleb!
Thank you so much for this video. I've been toying around with buying one since I was 20 and now I not only have the time and money, but the pure desire to rebuild one and this video put all my concerns to bed. Going to look at 3 today! Thank you and I hope I get to stretch on you one day.
So I bought my first car two years ago and it was an 87 gt vert and it's been a project since. But I still wouldn't change a thing I love it and will not get rid of it.
Nice foxbody man. With that coyote I bet it scoots. Most of my family is Ford. I have a good buddy that’s a big gm guy so I’m stuck in the middle owned gms mainly bc if I bought ford he wouldn’t fix. But my dream car is a ford product lol
Great video! This video needed to be made a lot of people as you say think they want a foxbody until they get one. It’s not for everyone even if you love Mustangs. I want another one myself one day. Would love to have my first mustang back. It was a 89 GT, shouldn’t have ever let it go.
I cut my teeth on a foxbody and learned so much along the way out of necessity of having to do the work myself I love my fox and have grown very attached to it
I've owned a 79 5.0 auto (pig) 85 GT 5-Speed 92 LX 5.0 5-Speed And my favorite and most missed. An 86 SVO. I had the SVO putting out about 80 to 100 HP over stock with mostly junkyard parts :) bonus on the SVO was it came with great brakes for the time. 4 wheel discs They are the best.
I want a foxbody because I had a 65 mustang project car and it needs a bunch of work that I'm not comfortable doing and I want the body work done professionally but I dont have the money but I still wanted to have a mustang and the only one I really want is a foxbody mustang I know it will give me trouble but I am fine with that because I want to have a car to work on I dont want a newer car
I always looked at newer as more power from a technical standpoint (not that you can't make power in a foxbody) but knowingly unless I knew how to work on those types of newer cars I knew I would never be able to work on a newer mustang. Till this day I own my 87 GT foxbody and I don't have no plans of giving it up. Rode in an 04 cobra, a 2010 GT, and a 2015 GT. Still nothing has pulled me away from my foxbody. Were in it for life lol
Fox bodys are an experience and nothing more. Take it from a guy who had 2 of them then 2 sn95s and a year ago got another fox again. Gotta love the raw muscle car feel they have,its either love or hate it thing. I love em!
I’m new to your channel and I definitely agree with what your saying about foxes I’ve had mine 15 years now and I know all about there quirks but there still a blast to drive!
I'm on my third hatch. My current one is an 84, she's in her 30s, she's noisy, complains all the time, takes all my money. Wouldn't have it any other way.
Really informative video. Ive always wanted a Fox body. I am hands on and when I owned a 2001 gt. I did all my repairs and upgrades. I will have to think about it more so for the lack amenities and simpler package. My 94 gt is a vert with power everything. Electronics began failing on it since purchased 10 years ago. I don't mind simplicity. I have to say the less amenities the better. I will keep on pursuit of a Fox! Thanks for the content!
Maybe I'm just accustomed to it, but I'm pretty sure my grandfather's 89 doesn't rattle at all. Feels solid to me. Maybe I'm just too busy giggling at the sound of the 5.0 to notice.
I consider the Foxbodies an addiction... Its like potato chips... You cant have just one!😵 I love my ponies... I have the 97Cobra and my 2k New Edge, but my 💗is with the Foxes!
Bought a brand new Mustang 1989 LX hatch, 5.0........should have never sold it with only 12K on it, but got into Harley's in a serious way........best thing about the 1989 LX was that it was the very first year that the 5.0 LX version automatically got the GT upgrade interior, AND was the last year for tilt wheel until the body change 4 years later.......and yeah......for those of you looking into an old Fox, dont buy one, let whats out there for me to choose one of these "crappy" cars as this guys says......BTW.......I had no issues with it.....for 13.5k brand new........it was a steal........could have put another 5k into it and had a sweet road machine............
I am 18 and I'm saving up for a foxbody. I really want a Hatch 5.0 but thier so rare in my area and the ones I find are convertibles, or out of my budget. But I'm determined to get one this year!
You spent a lot of time talking about people going from newer cars to older fox, but then there's people like me that are going from 60s cars to a fox, it's going to be like a new car to me lol
Sooooo true man.. but I Love my 89lx and all its nuances Hah. but, I also know my car inside and out and can fix anything that goes wrong with it on side of road if need be
I respect your video, I know all the things about it being a 20+year old car.... It's not comfortable and not refined but what Iam sure everyone is trying to get is, that is it reliable? Does it have good mpg? And everymustang/car guy would love to work on this car and constomize them!
Oh God, I'm thinking of all the girlfriends I've had over the years and how they felt about my Mustangs. One of them had previous manual trans experience, she jumped into the car and took off as if she'd been driving it all her life. She turned and said "this thing is easy to drive! Can we put an engine like this into my Probe?" LOL! One GF I had pretended to be afraid of the car but after we spit up a friend of hers told me that Emily would go out looking for races when she was supposed to be doing errands for my business! Afraid my butt! My current girlfriend has no interest in it. None. She just doesn't get the magic and I'm sure gets tired of me working on it all the time and talking about all of the cool Fox related channels on RUclips. She's a good sport though and at least tolerates my "hobby car". Lucky me.
I’ve had one for years. I currently own a 1990 hatch. older cars always have something wrong with them. lol but for me my AC still works. No heat tho heater core is bad. I bypassed it so I wouldn’t have to tear the dash out. So not very winter friendly. Funny thing I can be driving around in my wife’s new car or my truck and nobody even knows I’m there. But when I’m in my Mustang i always get approached about it. It’s crossed my mind to sell the car. It’s developed a pretty bad rear main seal leak. I’ve replaced it twice but it seems to start leaking again in about a year. I guess I’m not doing it right?
dude i have a 1989 fox body convertible,i have had for 12 years,its definetly not a every day car,its a expensive car to fix,but i use it maybe once a week in the summer time,dont regret having one
basically if you're going to own a fox body. You should know cars, and how everything works otherwise you're gonna be throwing money away. I learned the hard way, and still learning. I have an 86 notch, and a 93 lx. btw here is the link of me doing a burnout on my 86 ruclips.net/video/UEBHc0VdnRs/видео.html
My first muscle car was a 85 mustang owned it for 10 years to the frame rotted and the A frame came through the floor.I have owned older camaro and charger but foxbody was always my favourite. Got myself a 88 gt vert last summer and she is so clean.This one is staying with me these cars are moving up in value.
You have to put the work in to really enjoy a Foxbody. The "work" may be minimal - even just a weekend or two a year - but you'll have to put it in regardless. They are an accessible entry level old school RWD platform for whatever you might want. You don't even have to stick with the stock 5.0 pushrod engine, almost any engine goes in the Fox game thanks to the big engine bay and variety of aftermarket parts. It has somehow become one of (together with the later SN-95/New Edge Fox chassis cars) the most "building block" style car out there. So if you're the sort of person that has an image of their ideal car - a Foxbody is a good fit. I wanted a supercharged V8 on a relatively low income and the Foxbody was a perfect fit for this. I'm good with computers and wiring, so I even ended up tuning it myself with a Megasquirt ECU. It's taken me places I've never expected. I've put about 10 grand into it including the price of the car, but I would have been in for much more with almost any other platform. The key thing here is that I had a vision and was willing to do the work. You clearly had a vision with your Coyote swap and you made it happen by doing the work. Foxbody cars are a poor choice for the "out of the box" style auto enthusiast. If you're the kind of guy who just wants to bolt some wheels and a cold air intake on and call it a build you'll be disappointed. I agree with the first half of this video, those guys might be better off sticking with a more "current" platform like the S550. They also have huge NVH and tend to rattle inside and suffer from cheap plastics(few 80s/90s cars don't - only 80s car I have ever been in that had decent plastics was my dad's '86 Mercedes 420 SEL W126). If you're all about ride comfort and elegance - you want a "grand tourer" - this is gonna be a tough task in a Foxbody. My brother described my car as a "garbage can with a rocket engine attached to it", you'll get something raw, quick and brutal with no tact or manners whatsoever. For guys like us the raw ride is part of the appeal, but it might not be so great for others.
I've owned many Mustang's, my main complaint about the Fox was lack of leg room. My current GT is an 18 A10 and the leg room is awesome but if I could I'd still get a Fox to play with. Anybody remember the Goodyear Gatorbacks, they were crap, they didn't last and they followed every groove in the road! :)
I'm 24. I bought my 92 gt at 19. Its my all time favorite car. It's my baby and will never sell it. I was blessed to find one that was already repainted and well taken care of. It's a wonderful car. I added some modern things like wireless charging and cupholders (thank you lmr.com). I re did the entire interior and engine. Its just a reliable, cool, unique car that people my age always stop and ask about. And when they want to talk shit about how it's old and slow it's also a blast to put them in their place. All while quiet with the ac on 😍
Exactly, old and slow, back in 1995 I had my '85 GT, it looked stock but ran mid 12's. Got challenged by an older guy with a ZR1, I walked it, he was very impressed and said he would never just assume he'd smoke a car based on looks.
I got a black 1989 convertible GT. People are shocked to find out that I actually have an ice cold working AC in my car. Often get praised on how nice the new like convertible top is with matching equally new like interior. I can't believe how shitty looking most people have their foxbody mustangs. Then again not everyone knows how to paint and do their own mechanic work like me. Even a decent quality gallon of primer, basecoat & clear coat system can cost about $600, not to mention sand paper, puddy, good quality "bondo," several different sizes and shapes of sanding blocks, thinner, reducer etc. Other things such as paint guns, primer guns, compressor, air blowers...so many years of buying, collecting body work tools, etc. Your very own body work and paint job can easily add up to $1000 only on materials. It's no wonder most people drive classics looking like crap. Very very expensive hobby.
My 88 Mustang Sally GT convertible that I have owned since she was new, rides rough, has wind noise, the power steering whines, and runs like a bat out of hell. I wouldn't have it any other way. No electronic stuff and a basic aftermarket cd player. She is a 5 speed and needs constant attention to keep her going down the road. I'm in my 60's now and she keeps me alert when driving
If you want to have fun in a Hot Rod, without all the little gadgets and toys, then this is for you. Bought mine new in 89, and still love it. Classic car and fun to cruise on the weekends!
Hopefully everyone starts hating them again so the prices come down. I cruise Corral every once in a while and those dudes on there have bumped their fvcking heads.
I have never had any of the issues that you mentioned or any of the problems mentioned in the comments. But I have replaced 3 wiper motors, 91 GT owned it since 93 when I purchased it with 10,500 miles on it.
I used to commute with a few of them 100+ miles round trip with skinnies at times , in rain, traffic, hot days and over heating and the usual for probably the first 10 years of my career and I still love them and still have a few. What bothers me is that I wish I would have kept half of them.
S550's are everywhere now. Starting to hardly see Edge's at this point. And now, S-197's are starting to loos motors left and right due to mileage. Foxbody's seem to be on the road less than classic mustangs at this point. Seems weird, but I guess we are getting to that point in life.
Great channel, great video's keep' em comin 👍 i have a 88 convertible 31 yrs.old now, low miles believe it or not, it doesn't rattle and still handles like it's 88. Now it was owned by an elderly lady, and as of last summer my idle did start messing up, i guess it's going to start with the fox body problems now..lol I've lowered it 1.5 Cobra rims koni shocks and i just bought the Pan handler bar after seeing ur's. You're opinion seeing how it's in great shape and u don't see them pretty much stock, would that be about as far as u would go?
Got a mint 83 coupe GL with a complete wrecked 82 GT drive train for 2300 on Craigslist thing sat for years in a garage drive it every day, kills me to put miles every day but it’s been my most reliable car I’ve owned love the sound the raw torque the down shifts my college debt was also 2300, I chose the car first lol my kids will drive this car years from now when I have them
The thing I can not stand in newer cars is how modular they are. You need a proverbial technician to fix them. Fact is, I loved the J-Bodies I had (GM's cousin of sorts as the body was near similar but often lacked the power of a Fox) and...oh how if only I could pull together the money for an A.O.D. (never learned how to drive manual)
It is refreshing to see an enthusiast of a certain make and model of car do a video on why that certain make and model of car isn't for everyone. I've had three Mustangs in my life thus far, prior to the one I'm currently daily-driving: a '66 K-Code fastback, a '92 LX 5.0, and '99. I don't miss the '66 or the '92 at all. I don't yearn to own another one. Count me in as one who is in the "Foxbody is not for me" camp. When the '99 got destroyed by an uninsured driver last month, I couldn't wait to get another New Edge. I'm currently rolling a 2002 now. As much as I love the New Edge Mustangs, they aren't for everybody, either. While the Foxbody isn't where my own heart for Mustangs is at, I'm glad there are people out there that love the things enough to keep them on the road, on the tracks, and out of the scrap yards. I appreciate them and I can appreciate the enthusiasm people have for them, but I can do that vicariously.
i like my cars like i like my women! in there 20s and full of issues!!
Hahahaha I am stealing that one
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One of the things I like about my foxbody is that I do smell like exhaust after driving it LOL.
GearHead704 Eau d’chevron supreme is my favorite cologne.
Lol my wife complains about it constantly. And the fact that the garage has to air out for 10 minutes after I back it in
@@92notchback302 Mine says she wont ride because of the smell lol
When I was in college with my 5.0 chicks riding would always ask me what's that smell... should it smell like that..? Etc. Etc. I I still got the panties at the end of the night though! LMFAOO! Feminist eat ME!
Man, I just realized that after nearly 40 years of Foxbody ownership, I am absolutely full of stories. I still drive my '93 Notch almost daily and I chuckle at the status these cars have in the minds of some young people. To me a Fox is a simple, rugged economy car stuffed with pickup truck engine. It's an overachiever in the "bang for the buck" category. To the kids at the local drive thru, this thing is a Hemi 'Cuda. The irony here is that when I was their age, I wanted an old musclecar in the worst way. Little did I know that I would purchase my old musclecar when it was brand new, off the dealer lot. High school dream achieved.
Haha absolutely. As a fox owner since 91 I know exactly what you’re talking about. These things were cheap, belly button cars (everyone had one) that were a dime a dozen. Now you never see them on the roads day to day. When you do it’s usually a pos. So when I drive my immaculate electric red 93 LX people lose their minds. I have a grabber blue 13 GT that’s makes 1100hp and people barely blink at it in comparison to my 93.
That's the truth
Iv had my fox for 6 months..I had so many issues with the idle and then rear main seal leak. It ruined the car for me. I wanted go get rid of it. After taking time to learn about it and fix it. I LOVE driving it now. I'm so glad I didnt give up on it
It's one of the easiest engines to work on, I miss mine.
ryu51890 what was wrong with the idle?? Cause I think I might have an idle problem in my 86 and also the rear main seal. There is a small leak that is right next to the transmission, like behind or in between the axle.
Yeah same thing happened with me. I bought a ragged out SN95 5.0 and fixed it up. Got really frustrated when I found out I had to replace the core support. I’ve never welded anything every, but I learned! Ended up selling it for more than half what I had in it and put a down payment on a 2018 royal crimson gt performance pack with black leather Recaro seats and a digital gauge cluster. It’s a 6 speed manual and I’ve heard bad things about them, but so far it’s held up like a champ!!
Not giving up on the fox body are keywords, I came this close to almost getting rid of it,glad I didn't, now it's one of my favorite vehicles that I enjoy driving
One thing that is nice about older cars (including the Fox Body) is that, like you said, they are easier to repair when they breakdown. The more low-tech the things are, the more easier to repair!
My foxbody gets more looks than the newer gt350 we have at the dealer I work at
Me too.
thats a lie
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Totally fine with my fox, had an S197 and S550. No payments is best.
Best thing about the fox bodies is the after market support for this platform.👍👍👍👍👍👍 other thing is you can make the car your own ,👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Foxbodys , ride like crap ,cant handle , stopping haha thats a joke , rattle traps , bad fuel mileage uh no fuel mileage , noisy .. best dam car ever the most fun , easiest car to modify fun fun fun , its a real car that makes you love it because of its simplicity and just the way that they are . I had an 85gt for 15 years and i miss it , im looking for another one , i want a 85-86 coupe, 85 gt front end capri fenders and quarters ,coyote swap with a whipple and six speed ,bear brakes and good suspension already getting parts together .
EXACTLY!
Foxbodies are like new cars to me. Besides the side glass i'd never know.
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Pretty sure my 92 5.0 LX got about the same mileage as my 03 Mach 1
Got just under 24 MPG on a long mostly 5th gear drive.
how's this car coming along?
If you don't look back at your car. You don't drive a fox body. HAHA. You gotta love it. Sideways in the rain at any moment.
Not always intentional. Always working on it. Saving every dime to spend on it. SO MUCH FUN. Reminds me of sport atv. Rear end locked up. O YEA
You nailed it bud, been there done that
my old boss back in the late 80s had a green 4 cylinder LX hatchback.
it was probably the cheapest on the lot.
but there was and hasn't been since another car that look like the foxbody.
so that's saying something.
i have a 92 corvette,69 bug,72 karmann ghia,90 foxbody,89 foxbody...and i love driving my foxbodys the most then the vws and the vettes...but the vw are sweet.
I have my 87 🦊 body love it I have it since 96 Love it
Sold my 2006 GT, and bought a 93 LX. Best decision I've ever made, now i'm dumping money into it
I used to own a 1997 mustang, loved every second of driving it. Even though it didn’t have the smoothest ride, things would cling every time after going over a pot hole, the power steering whined I still liked it. After I drove a 2006 vw Jetta and Ford Focus. The ride was way smoother than the mustang but I still liked the mustang. So me personally I like older cars like yeah newer has more luxury and power but to me I’d pick an older car over a newer one any day.
I have spent 8 years with my 01 GT Vert (auto ) silver on silver /black top .. riding in a 84 LX 5.0 Vert and a New Edge is like a modern car with less rattlers lol ..
It almost sounds like you are talking about a daily driver. My Fox is my hobby car. Example, if I was buying a Porsche I would buy an older one any day over a new one. The same for a Mustang. A new one is a dime a dozen. The older ones are with character. However, if I was buying a daily driver, I would buy a newer F150 with a Coyote Motor, which I have because it is more practical, but my push rod 5.0 Fox Mustang sounds so much better! Thanks
As a long time Foxbody owner (got my first one in 1984) I would like to stress one thing only touched upon in this video. If you are going to own an old car, any old car, you had better be mechanically inclined and ready to "embrace the suck" or have a big bank account. When you own an old car, you will find that as soon as you fix one thing, another thing will go wrong. You need to take it upon yourself to learn everything you can about the car's various systems so you can stay on top of all that stuff. Otherwise, you'll have to pay someone else to do it and not everyone has a Jay Leno or Tyler Hoover budget. Don't forget the cost of tools in that budget. You will need them.
I'll sum it up simply: if you are the kind of guy that doesn't like to spin your own wrenches, stick with a newer car. I've owned my 4 eye for 26 years now and I think there is hardly a fastener that I haven't used a tool on.
100% correct brutha!
The awesome thing about them is you can do everything yourself on them. My '85 four eye went through T5's like friggin candy plus that 7.5" rear end was crap so I spent a bit of time underneath replacing them, I can't imagine wrenching on the rear of my S550.
You have a 85 ? I need some help and advise on my build... Roller Motors seem to be tough to get parts for. at least when i enter 1985 in search lol. I am lookin for the complete gasket kit and don't see one with a full oil pan gasket...lil things like that drive me nuts hahaha all the aluminum heads have 2.02 intake valves and worried about clearance... spring pressure too...600 would be ideal and everyone sells heads with .500 that's close with the E303 cam I bought...
@@wildbillo68 - I haven't had a Fox body for 22 years, sadly I sold the '85 Notch 3 years after buying it which was stupid but live and learn. My '85 GT I bought in 1993, the motor was weak so I bought a brand new 306 shortblock from Jegs along with GT40 heads, an E cam and headers, it ran mid 12's which wasn't bad for the time. You should be able to pick up gasket kits from every auto parts store out there. Summit has "Fel-Pro Oil Pan Gasket SFLOS13260T" for $33.00, they have everything for those engines.
I owned an 88 GT as a teen and im now 44 and purchased an 86 GT. In 2 years ive put less than 50 miles on the 80k odometer reading. Ive stripped the car and almost finished painting the jambs, engine bay, underside of hood and hatch, and all parts that wont get coverage when the car is put back together. Im spraying a Candy Pearl Apple Red. Anyways, my question is what performance upgrades should i consider? It has flowmaster mufflers, kbb headers, caster-camber plates with 3 point brace, sits on lowering springs with p275 in the rear p245 up front. What other upgrades should i start with?
It's time for Foxbody Restoration!
Got started on the mark series lincolns now I got 2 fox's 🤣 87 vert gt and a 92 hatch
i have had christine since 1992. i was 23 years old. she is my baby.. 2wives later and a war later she is still with me.. nothing like her.. even my 3rd wife loves her.... its a freakin love like no other...
I know all about that Lincoln air ride suspension not working (I had (4) Mark VII's). Looked sweet sitting low, but GOT-DAMM (the ride was horrible!). Matter of fact, the air ride on the last '86 I had half a** semi worked. The Lincoln Mark VII phase came way before my ownership of Mustangs (much more affordable for a teenager at that time). Matter of fact. All 4 of them were bought from me noticing them having sat for a while in driveways/yards. Not a (1) of them was found from an online classified ad. Would just knock on doors back then and ask. All of them cars I wound up buying for next to nothing!!! Im on my 3rd fox body now. Vermillion red '90 LX 25th Anniversary 5.0 Convertible. I absolutely love it. Far as I'm concerned, the fox is without a doubt my preffered Mustang (especially the '87-'93). I had a 65 junker and a rough yet very potential 66 Mustang (both coupes). I could have whipped that 66 into shape, but I couldn't fool myself. I'm just a fox body guy at heart (the Lincoln Mark VII was a good "introduction" into the Fox Body Mustang world for me anyway. Nowhere near my appreciation towards the fox stang, but I really liked that car and have found memories of it (like the battery blowing up while my father was driving it due to a faulty voltage Regulator!). That one in particular was a green 1st year '84 "Continental" Mark VII LSC with a carbureted 302........(paid 200 bucks for it).
Everywhere I go I almost always have someone walk up and try to buy my car
There is something about owning and working on old VW bugs, British sports cars or older Jeeps exc. You have a investment in your time, sweat and money that you put into these cars, so yes the car becomes part of you and your life. A Foxbody is no different. Unfortunately I ran out of time, so I have a 2015 mustang gt.
I drive an 03 convertible, so i know about rattles and creaks 😂 But im debating on selling mine to get a 89-92 area foxbody!!
Owned a 82..a 84 gt t-top and now a 90 gt...i grew up in the 80s and early 90s...fox body mustang was our shit then and still is now for most of us..well for me anyways!!
I totally agree. Being a OG foxbody guy for over 20 years. I drove some of the newer cars and not a big fan even though they are super amazing. Love the old school
Got 2 foxbodies for sale ...
Im unable to finsish either want to sell to another foxbody fan.
1 82 mercury capri,non op.
Motor has all machine work done , assembled shortblock. Was a daily driver before i began restoring , pulled engine , cleaned engine bay (media blasted and sealed) .
4speed trans, pulled and cleaned. Small rear end (not an 8.8) its factory . 2.83 gears i believe.
Other car is 87 GT speed density car .
Roller with cowl hood & 4 lug black cobras .no motor or trans , back tags.
Both cars are in bakersfield .
Need both gone asap.
Respond to this if willing to meet in person and pickup or i can help coordinte shipping.
Back in '85 It was my dad's car and I started driving it. I ended up inheriting it when my dad got himself a new car. We sold it in 1995. My dad had something in his eye the day we let it go. I've been thinking that a manual one would be a great first car for my 15 year old kid. As a father & son project. They are challenging to drive. Brakes lock and they tend to drift on a moment notice. Once you get used to their "character" they are agile little 8 cylinder monsters! ⚡️
4 year old comment but ill say thats a lot of horsepower for a teenager, and odds are they will drink and or try and impress their friends at some point.
This video is on point! Whining power steering. Somewhat smell like exhaust when you get out. Feel every imperfection in the road. I definitely got the fever. I put 175 miles on mine just yesterday riding to Wilmington NC and back. I saw hundreds of SN95 and newer but only 1 other Foxbody! We both gave a thumbs up because we knew we were in a class of our own! Good Video Caleb!
What part of NC are you from?
Even the cons make me wanna buy one 😅
Thank you so much for this video. I've been toying around with buying one since I was 20 and now I not only have the time and money, but the pure desire to rebuild one and this video put all my concerns to bed.
Going to look at 3 today! Thank you and I hope I get to stretch on you one day.
Foxes have alot of character. I like my s550 but i will always be more comfortable in my old rattle box.
Yup, fox bodies have a lot of character!
Way more than the mainstream newer models...
One of the things I like about my fox is it's so loud you can't talk to you're passenger. I don't like talking when I drive, just enjoy the moment.
So I bought my first car two years ago and it was an 87 gt vert and it's been a project since. But I still wouldn't change a thing I love it and will not get rid of it.
Nice foxbody man. With that coyote I bet it scoots. Most of my family is Ford. I have a good buddy that’s a big gm guy so I’m stuck in the middle owned gms mainly bc if I bought ford he wouldn’t fix. But my dream car is a ford product lol
Great video! This video needed to be made a lot of people as you say think they want a foxbody until they get one. It’s not for everyone even if you love Mustangs. I want another one myself one day. Would love to have my first mustang back. It was a 89 GT, shouldn’t have ever let it go.
I cut my teeth on a foxbody and learned so much along the way out of necessity of having to do the work myself I love my fox and have grown very attached to it
I've owned a 79 5.0 auto (pig)
85 GT 5-Speed
92 LX 5.0 5-Speed
And my favorite and most missed. An 86 SVO. I had the SVO putting out about 80 to 100 HP over stock with mostly junkyard parts :) bonus on the SVO was it came with great brakes for the time. 4 wheel discs
They are the best.
I want a foxbody because I had a 65 mustang project car and it needs a bunch of work that I'm not comfortable doing and I want the body work done professionally but I dont have the money but I still wanted to have a mustang and the only one I really want is a foxbody mustang I know it will give me trouble but I am fine with that because I want to have a car to work on I dont want a newer car
So you mean when you buy a 90s shit box you're going to get a 90s shit box?
I always looked at newer as more power from a technical standpoint (not that you can't make power in a foxbody) but knowingly unless I knew how to work on those types of newer cars I knew I would never be able to work on a newer mustang. Till this day I own my 87 GT foxbody and I don't have no plans of giving it up. Rode in an 04 cobra, a 2010 GT, and a 2015 GT. Still nothing has pulled me away from my foxbody. Were in it for life lol
Fox bodys are an experience and nothing more. Take it from a guy who had 2 of them then 2 sn95s and a year ago got another fox again. Gotta love the raw muscle car feel they have,its either love or hate it thing. I love em!
I’m new to your channel and I definitely agree with what your saying about foxes I’ve had mine 15 years now and I know all about there quirks but there still a blast to drive!
Matthew Brown Welcome aboard bud!!
Im Fox all the way!!!
I'm on my third hatch. My current one is an 84, she's in her 30s, she's noisy, complains all the time, takes all my money. Wouldn't have it any other way.
I love the Ford Mustang Foxbody, its my dream car, nice video by the way!
5:05 is there that much room on there stock ? I could stand inside of that thing
Really informative video. Ive always wanted a Fox body. I am hands on and when I owned a 2001 gt. I did all my repairs and upgrades. I will have to think about it more so for the lack amenities and simpler package. My 94 gt is a vert with power everything. Electronics began failing on it since purchased 10 years ago. I don't mind simplicity. I have to say the less amenities the better. I will keep on pursuit of a Fox! Thanks for the content!
Richie Scan 5.0 Posse @Jimmy Void Talkin Truth on RUclips . Great vid
Maybe I'm just accustomed to it, but I'm pretty sure my grandfather's 89 doesn't rattle at all. Feels solid to me.
Maybe I'm just too busy giggling at the sound of the 5.0 to notice.
I consider the Foxbodies an addiction... Its like potato chips... You cant have just one!😵 I love my ponies... I have the 97Cobra and my 2k New Edge, but my 💗is with the Foxes!
Bought a brand new Mustang 1989 LX hatch, 5.0........should have never sold it with only 12K on it, but got into Harley's in a serious way........best thing about the 1989 LX was that it was the very first year that the 5.0 LX version automatically got the GT upgrade interior, AND was the last year for tilt wheel until the body change 4 years later.......and yeah......for those of you looking into an old Fox, dont buy one, let whats out there for me to choose one of these "crappy" cars as this guys says......BTW.......I had no issues with it.....for 13.5k brand new........it was a steal........could have put another 5k into it and had a sweet road machine............
I am 18 and I'm saving up for a foxbody. I really want a Hatch 5.0 but thier so rare in my area and the ones I find are convertibles, or out of my budget. But I'm determined to get one this year!
Update I bought a 1992 GT in june lol
You spent a lot of time talking about people going from newer cars to older fox, but then there's people like me that are going from 60s cars to a fox, it's going to be like a new car to me lol
Sooooo true man.. but I Love my 89lx and all its nuances Hah. but, I also know my car inside and out and can fix anything that goes wrong with it on side of road if need be
What do you think about a fox body mustang powered by chevy
It's awesome how passionate you are with these cool ass cars!
Save a fox.
Brakes suck. Suspension is a joke. And you dont have a damn cup holder. I love my fox
I respect your video, I know all the things about it being a 20+year old car.... It's not comfortable and not refined but what Iam sure everyone is trying to get is, that is it reliable? Does it have good mpg? And everymustang/car guy would love to work on this car and constomize them!
Great video bud. I have my 89 fox vert and a 03 Termi vert and they’re like night and day. Love them both tho.
Oh God, I'm thinking of all the girlfriends I've had over the years and how they felt about my Mustangs. One of them had previous manual trans experience, she jumped into the car and took off as if she'd been driving it all her life. She turned and said "this thing is easy to drive! Can we put an engine like this into my Probe?" LOL! One GF I had pretended to be afraid of the car but after we spit up a friend of hers told me that Emily would go out looking for races when she was supposed to be doing errands for my business! Afraid my butt! My current girlfriend has no interest in it. None. She just doesn't get the magic and I'm sure gets tired of me working on it all the time and talking about all of the cool Fox related channels on RUclips. She's a good sport though and at least tolerates my "hobby car". Lucky me.
Is it a good 1st car ?
I’ve had one for years. I currently own a 1990 hatch. older cars always have something wrong with them. lol but for me my AC still works. No heat tho heater core is bad. I bypassed it so I wouldn’t have to tear the dash out. So not very winter friendly. Funny thing I can be driving around in my wife’s new car or my truck and nobody even knows I’m there. But when I’m in my Mustang i always get approached about it. It’s crossed my mind to sell the car. It’s developed a pretty bad rear main seal leak. I’ve replaced it twice but it seems to start leaking again in about a year. I guess I’m not doing it right?
It's going back in time to a simple way of life. Miss the rattles and road noise. On day I will have a one again.
dude i have a 1989 fox body convertible,i have had for 12 years,its definetly not a every day car,its a expensive car to fix,but i use it maybe once a week in the summer time,dont regret having one
Cool vid. Gives good perspective.
Buy a fox! You will respect the new cars that come from the store with 400hp. Fox Body Mustangs are the most fun you will have messing with a mustang.
I’m 17 I’ve been looking at foxbodys here lately I think you just made my mind thanks man
basically if you're going to own a fox body. You should know cars, and how everything works otherwise you're gonna be throwing money away. I learned the hard way, and still learning. I have an 86 notch, and a 93 lx. btw here is the link of me doing a burnout on my 86 ruclips.net/video/UEBHc0VdnRs/видео.html
My first muscle car was a 85 mustang owned it for 10 years to the frame rotted and the A frame came through the floor.I have owned older camaro and charger but foxbody was always my favourite. Got myself a 88 gt vert last summer and she is so clean.This one is staying with me these cars are moving up in value.
You have to put the work in to really enjoy a Foxbody. The "work" may be minimal - even just a weekend or two a year - but you'll have to put it in regardless. They are an accessible entry level old school RWD platform for whatever you might want. You don't even have to stick with the stock 5.0 pushrod engine, almost any engine goes in the Fox game thanks to the big engine bay and variety of aftermarket parts. It has somehow become one of (together with the later SN-95/New Edge Fox chassis cars) the most "building block" style car out there. So if you're the sort of person that has an image of their ideal car - a Foxbody is a good fit. I wanted a supercharged V8 on a relatively low income and the Foxbody was a perfect fit for this. I'm good with computers and wiring, so I even ended up tuning it myself with a Megasquirt ECU. It's taken me places I've never expected. I've put about 10 grand into it including the price of the car, but I would have been in for much more with almost any other platform. The key thing here is that I had a vision and was willing to do the work. You clearly had a vision with your Coyote swap and you made it happen by doing the work.
Foxbody cars are a poor choice for the "out of the box" style auto enthusiast. If you're the kind of guy who just wants to bolt some wheels and a cold air intake on and call it a build you'll be disappointed. I agree with the first half of this video, those guys might be better off sticking with a more "current" platform like the S550.
They also have huge NVH and tend to rattle inside and suffer from cheap plastics(few 80s/90s cars don't - only 80s car I have ever been in that had decent plastics was my dad's '86 Mercedes 420 SEL W126). If you're all about ride comfort and elegance - you want a "grand tourer" - this is gonna be a tough task in a Foxbody. My brother described my car as a "garbage can with a rocket engine attached to it", you'll get something raw, quick and brutal with no tact or manners whatsoever. For guys like us the raw ride is part of the appeal, but it might not be so great for others.
I've owned many Mustang's, my main complaint about the Fox was lack of leg room. My current GT is an 18 A10 and the leg room is awesome but if I could I'd still get a Fox to play with. Anybody remember the Goodyear Gatorbacks, they were crap, they didn't last and they followed every groove in the road! :)
I hate my foxbody . Too many problems.
The Answer is always a fox
I'm 24. I bought my 92 gt at 19. Its my all time favorite car. It's my baby and will never sell it. I was blessed to find one that was already repainted and well taken care of. It's a wonderful car. I added some modern things like wireless charging and cupholders (thank you lmr.com). I re did the entire interior and engine. Its just a reliable, cool, unique car that people my age always stop and ask about. And when they want to talk shit about how it's old and slow it's also a blast to put them in their place. All while quiet with the ac on 😍
Exactly, old and slow, back in 1995 I had my '85 GT, it looked stock but ran mid 12's. Got challenged by an older guy with a ZR1, I walked it, he was very impressed and said he would never just assume he'd smoke a car based on looks.
I got a black 1989 convertible GT. People are shocked to find out that I actually have an ice cold working AC in my car. Often get praised on how nice the new like convertible top is with matching equally new like interior. I can't believe how shitty looking most people have their foxbody mustangs. Then again not everyone knows how to paint and do their own mechanic work like me. Even a decent quality gallon of primer, basecoat & clear coat system can cost about $600, not to mention sand paper, puddy, good quality "bondo," several different sizes and shapes of sanding blocks, thinner, reducer etc. Other things such as paint guns, primer guns, compressor, air blowers...so many years of buying, collecting body work tools, etc. Your very own body work and paint job can easily add up to $1000 only on materials. It's no wonder most people drive classics looking like crap. Very very expensive hobby.
My 88 Mustang Sally GT convertible that I have owned since she was new, rides rough, has wind noise, the power steering whines, and runs like a bat out of hell. I wouldn't have it any other way. No electronic stuff and a basic aftermarket cd player. She is a 5 speed and needs constant attention to keep her going down the road. I'm in my 60's now and she keeps me alert when driving
If you want to have fun in a Hot Rod, without all the little gadgets and toys, then this is for you. Bought mine new in 89, and still love it. Classic car and fun to cruise on the weekends!
Hopefully everyone starts hating them again so the prices come down. I cruise Corral every once in a while and those dudes on there have bumped their fvcking heads.
I have never had any of the issues that you mentioned or any of the problems mentioned in the comments. But I have replaced 3 wiper motors, 91 GT owned it since 93 when I purchased it with 10,500 miles on it.
I used to commute with a few of them 100+ miles round trip with skinnies at times , in rain, traffic, hot days and over heating and the usual for probably the first 10 years of my career and I still love them and still have a few. What bothers me is that I wish I would have kept half of them.
My 92 lx 5.0 was my favorite. Would love to have one with the coyote.
I love the smell of hi test in the morning
From starting with a Chevelle when I was 15 and having a ton of newer cars, going back to a Fox was refreshing. (Carb’d 85 GT 5 spd)
keep up the channel brother. its a small community and I like seeing other builds.
FOXBODYLOVE# MAN YOUR FOX IS LOOKING REALLY SWEET!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks man. I have an S197 mustang 09 and I want a fox body
S550's are everywhere now. Starting to hardly see Edge's at this point. And now, S-197's are starting to loos motors left and right due to mileage. Foxbody's seem to be on the road less than classic mustangs at this point. Seems weird, but I guess we are getting to that point in life.
Yup, the newer Mustangs are mainstream nowadays.
Not even special...
I recently got into the foxbody game. I got a 89 Lx and so far everything is good! Love driving it around town, breaking necks everywhere lol
I had an 03 Cobra, but I had to go back to a Foxbody. Mainly cause I couldn’t afford another Cobra BUT Foxbodies always have a big place in my heart.
Great channel, great video's keep' em comin 👍 i have a 88 convertible 31 yrs.old now, low miles believe it or not, it doesn't rattle and still handles like it's 88. Now it was owned by an elderly lady, and as of last summer my idle did start messing up, i guess it's going to start with the fox body problems now..lol I've lowered it 1.5 Cobra rims koni shocks and i just bought the Pan handler bar after seeing ur's. You're opinion seeing how it's in great shape and u don't see them pretty much stock, would that be about as far as u would go?
Got a mint 83 coupe GL with a complete wrecked 82 GT drive train for 2300 on Craigslist thing sat for years in a garage drive it every day, kills me to put miles every day but it’s been my most reliable car I’ve owned love the sound the raw torque the down shifts my college debt was also 2300, I chose the car first lol my kids will drive this car years from now when I have them
My 92 5.0, I love it and I hate it but I can't get rid of it
The thing I can not stand in newer cars is how modular they are. You need a proverbial technician to fix them. Fact is, I loved the J-Bodies I had (GM's cousin of sorts as the body was near similar but often lacked the power of a Fox) and...oh how if only I could pull together the money for an A.O.D. (never learned how to drive manual)
It is refreshing to see an enthusiast of a certain make and model of car do a video on why that certain make and model of car isn't for everyone.
I've had three Mustangs in my life thus far, prior to the one I'm currently daily-driving: a '66 K-Code fastback, a '92 LX 5.0, and '99. I don't miss the '66 or the '92 at all. I don't yearn to own another one. Count me in as one who is in the "Foxbody is not for me" camp. When the '99 got destroyed by an uninsured driver last month, I couldn't wait to get another New Edge. I'm currently rolling a 2002 now. As much as I love the New Edge Mustangs, they aren't for everybody, either.
While the Foxbody isn't where my own heart for Mustangs is at, I'm glad there are people out there that love the things enough to keep them on the road, on the tracks, and out of the scrap yards. I appreciate them and I can appreciate the enthusiasm people have for them, but I can do that vicariously.
My first car was a 91 Ford Explorer with a lingering transmission issue. I think I’ll be fine lol