@@LordBeau even in games where Maxx C isn’t a factor it’s not that good. There’s just other better decks out there. Trust me I tried to make them work.
"i feel like it wasn't the deck that won, but the non-engine" Well that kinda sums up the entire format really. Being able to play a lot of non-engine is what makes a deck good nowadays.
Yeah that's a lot of decks these days who's entire going second gameplan is "use non engine to stop my opponent on turn 1, so I can do my turn 1 combo on turn 2"
The reason he still called the deck only okay even after its performance was because he noticed how much the non-engine carried his wins. Other decks can make the same boards easier as well.
It really is unfortunate that cards like the Rulers are stuck on the banlist for so long that the formats where they would be good without being game-breaking or disruptive have long gone. And I doubt adding more Rulers to the pool will make a meaningful difference, considering their own effect restriction.
Did you know that the Dragon Rulers can be splashed into Kashtira? Not only is there level 7 synergy, there's also attribute synergy. Fenrir is Earth fodder for Redox, Ogre is Water fodder for Tidal, Risehart (and detached Shangri-Ira) is Fire fodder for Blaster, Unicorn is Wind fodder for Tempest
Dude the second I saw this notification, I got locked tf in. Like, I don't expect them to be the best deck, but I can't not see how a former tier-zero would fare nowadays.
@@jarzz3601 *Close enough to tier-zero that the second deck was the only thing on its level and only really 2 decks (Prophecy, Ophion) had a ghost of a chance.
@@NeosSimp not every, it not that fragile . but yeah the main problem is bricking, if you don't get the right ratio of baby to bigboys you lose on the spot.
YEAAAAAHHH I've been running the Armed Dragon/Dragon Ruler stuff since they unbanned the deck. They also work surprisingly well with Kashtira cards I learned
I've been enjoying them as unbrickers in master duel dragon link, but they definitely wouldn't be worth it if we had wyverburster, the third quick launch and an extra 2 saronir.
There’s some pretty solid utility but when you think about it that’s all they kind of are. A pretty solid toolbox to get where you need to go that if the opponent has the right interruption then you’re doomed. Then again with enough interruption any deck would be stopped in their track. Still seems pretty fun though.
Literally full power on MD. It just costs way too many URs or I would've messed around with them. Just missing Super Rejuvination but that hopefully stays the case.
@@thekoifishcoyote8762 Maxx "C" makes every deck worse, except Stun and Floowandereeze, so that's not the reason is not playable, the reason is a decade of powercrept.
@@Ragnarok540just chain droll oh wait called by is at 2 & shifter is at 3 but they use called on Ash because droll couldn't be sent to gy. They made talents easier access makes you wonder why those rumors about 70% of MD players or more are alts.
@@t-nmint5381 it's not about 10 years ago even goat is a pain & was a pain it dates back to effect monsters I get it vanillas are stale but then take rush duels those started as vanillas games adapt I get it I just don't want to be a part of oh nice 5 monster board I'll super poly it all away with Yubel then lose to ash imperm 5 minutes later in the duel. I got into it in highschool now 28 I think I'ma try magic the gathering you don't see s poly for 5 in magic or branded do you? Game is less diverse less expensive look at Pokemon or Vanguard way more exciting more playerbase I bet Dueling Book has 1k peak players think about it that # can be smaller soon will be smaller.
Ive been playing dragon ruler in master duel... before the RDA stuff arrived it was so fun drawing 5 cards during my endphase thanks to super rejuvenation
@@Buzterer I'm sorry, I was assuming you meant the foolish effect and that no one would seriously have the opinion "just wait until atlanteans get back one more unsearchable discard outlet that's worse than abyssteus". My bad
@@_g_h_ actually It would be more of a soft garnet, actually. The discard outlet IS the small one, the follosh effect IS the consolatipn if you draw it
in order to fix dragon rulers being underwhelming i think they should print light and dark dragon rulers that help patch up some of their weaknesses im sure nothing could possibly go wrong doing that :)))))))))
Meawhile in MD, ALL Dragon Rulers are unabanned, with acces to Tomahak... And it flopped. IF these were released like, 3 or 5 years ago, they would've have a chance to be relevant again, but clearly they spent more time in prison than they should
they were rares also in og prints. xD, We all know why they never came of. Just look at shs,..or how quick and sus unchained got hit. We have no poor people jokes for reasons in ygo rn. Every cheap deck gets hit while expensive stay.
@@xatuyou8045 Technically also Maxx C, but it doesn't interrupt their plays, just gives you a bigger stick to punch them with the next turn, which is still quite good considering the importance of Priestess + spellbook of power + the master in the mirror, not to mention spiritualist BS just destroying all special summons; there's a reason why the rulers were never tier 0, or why in HAT Spellbook decks are still top tier even with nerfs.
7:08 kash cant play the rank7 otk line, all "rebellion" rank7 monsters are dragon/pendulum locked except for overlord, _but_ you can only special overlord opt
honestly the home for rulers is probably just Dlink extenders or as support for their respective elemental decks like Blaster in fire decks, rather than as their own dedicated deck
I've been playing them with Horus engine cause matching attributes are cute and you can otk going second very easy and all your cards are very good with the new Horus being a free send to no targeting send a card opponents control and be replaced with new field spell
Lets see if in the new banlist(Which I hope is in a way or less), we get to see the water dragon ruler getting limited to experience some more variety in decks in the format
New series idea: do a tournament of the competing builds for an archetype to determine what's best. This is one that could use it, there are a million flavors of armed dragon/kashtira/dragon ruler/rose dragon/rank 7 combo decks.
MBT not gonna lie you have turned from a moderately jank enthusiast to full blown I love making, mixing, and experimenting with jank now. Jank is awesome. So thanks for that lol.
I've been working on a water dragon cluster deck for like the past week, specifically for the fireking and snakeyes. Ive tried labrynth with rollback and bonding-dho to summon water dragon cluster. Ive tried pure water dragon with trade-in and sacred sword of seven stars with a small dino pack. Kairyu-shin & water dragons, but i think the most consistent so far has been water dragon/icejade. Mermails are good too. The bonding/chemical archetype needs support so badly. 😅 I'd appreciate any help if anyone more well-versed in ice jade than i am could help me out. I know theres better anti-pyro/fire decks, but water dragon and water dragon clusters effects are really good
I’d be curious to see what Dragonmaid could do with the Rulers. Although Dragonmaid sucks, it feels a bit like those cards were designed with the Rulers in mind.
unirinocally its to slow for modern format. every card in hand has to be handtrap or gas, for that to be good you have to run 20 handtraps cyberse style, and this deck can't. Might as well pick a heatsoul turbo deck then.
What was the point in creating link monsters if you can summon more than one XYZ/Synchros that’s not pointing to the links arrows. I left this game and came back and that was the rule last time I played
Link monsters themselves are still bound by that rule (and pendulums summoned from the extra specifically, for some reason), and the link arrows also determine if cards are linked or co linked, which are relevant for some card effects. It is pretty cringe they stopped making link monsters that don't care about their arrows instead of doubling down and making them extra important.
Joseph waiting for his 4th dad to come home
The polycule may never recover
nice pfp
You too 🙂
And grandpa chaos may never return
@@hatefulgaming1800what a nice comment from someone so hateful
@@kylefreeburg9353 Chaos Ruler is the son
I wish Tempest went
“Hi son, I’ve been back with the milk”
Bro, that was the most valuable Phantazmay I've seen in my life
“We have no idea of the playability”
Every ruler is unbanned in MD and they have tomahawk and they do nothing.
best i got so far is i use is Tempest as an extender with my stupid 60 card plane pile and occasional search.
It's not great but it does stuff lol
you also just can't compare master duel format to TCG due to the existence of Maxx "C"
it is a different format so it's technically possible they do something in the tcg not likely but still possible.
@@LordBeau even in games where Maxx C isn’t a factor it’s not that good. There’s just other better decks out there. Trust me I tried to make them work.
My Plunder patroll deck loves tidal.
"i feel like it wasn't the deck that won, but the non-engine"
Well that kinda sums up the entire format really. Being able to play a lot of non-engine is what makes a deck good nowadays.
Yeah that's a lot of decks these days who's entire going second gameplan is "use non engine to stop my opponent on turn 1, so I can do my turn 1 combo on turn 2"
Which in turn, means that the format sucks.
Except for Branded, right?
@@dolphinsniperI mean at this point it just speaks to how bad modern yugioh is getting
@@amiablereaper that's why i started prefering duel links or even rush duels :/
As an Odd-Eyes player, I adore the fact that the Rebellion Overlord option was included, it's always so hilarious turning to level 7s into 9k damage
Its funny to see it go 4-1 and MBT still says "yeah not good enough"
I get why, but still
facts, the deck looked crazy in this video
Yes he even defeated the best deck in the format
@@luismiguel7256 yeah but that happens a lot. He beat kash with Gold pride in that tmt but lets be real
The reason he still called the deck only okay even after its performance was because he noticed how much the non-engine carried his wins.
Other decks can make the same boards easier as well.
@@dracomeister7684 he also drew pretty well every game. No way it consistently draws like that
0:09 If the OCG is an indication, Tidal will come back to TCG soon
0:55 how much the deck changed in 11 years
It's very funny how "DAD" and "the daddies" refer to entirely different cards in this game.
And soon we're gonna have a third DAD from Drytrons
Entirely different powerful Level 7 Dragons lol
Entirely different tier 0 archetypes as well (shut up, I know Dragon Rulers technically weren't tier 0)
It really is unfortunate that cards like the Rulers are stuck on the banlist for so long that the formats where they would be good without being game-breaking or disruptive have long gone. And I doubt adding more Rulers to the pool will make a meaningful difference, considering their own effect restriction.
Did you know that the Dragon Rulers can be splashed into Kashtira? Not only is there level 7 synergy, there's also attribute synergy. Fenrir is Earth fodder for Redox, Ogre is Water fodder for Tidal, Risehart (and detached Shangri-Ira) is Fire fodder for Blaster, Unicorn is Wind fodder for Tempest
i would be VERY interested to see a kashtira dragon ruler list
Its more of the opposite. Kashtira being an engine in dragon rulers
You can probably jam some fenrirs for extension but other than that it just sounds like a crappier version of both kash and ruler
This sounds a lot better in master duel with Ariseheart still legal. Imagine detaching and reattaching Rulers for searches every turn.
I tried it with tempest before the second wave of Kash support just because it was a seven and I was using some random red-eyes cards and it worked ok
Tidal: さて、息子、牛乳を持って戻ってきました！
Came back to the family, it just turned out it was the 2nd one 💀
We've waited for so long, now they're back!
Dude the second I saw this notification, I got locked tf in. Like, I don't expect them to be the best deck, but I can't not see how a former tier-zero would fare nowadays.
dragon rules technically were never tier zero
@@jarzz3601
Cut to spellbook fighting for its life
Dragon rulers Werent Tier 0
@@jarzz3601 *Close enough to tier-zero that the second deck was the only thing on its level and only really 2 decks (Prophecy, Ophion) had a ghost of a chance.
@@Monroah hence the use of the word technically not claiming the format was healthy just technically not tier 0
You will wait no longer for Tidal. He’s back with the milk!
This was an amazing showcase of Phantazmay, thanks Joeseph!
Meanwhile on MD Rose Rulers are making the same Dis Pater Baronne boards every other synchro deck can make.
But this deck loses to every handtrap and is very inflexible
@@NeosSimp Did I imply otherwise? Oh and they're fun in Kash if you wanna mess around with that build of them.
@@NeosSimp not every, it not that fragile . but yeah the main problem is bricking, if you don't get the right ratio of baby to bigboys you lose on the spot.
They've been power crept like crazy. The meta they were a part of considered dracossac and big eye good
You're seeing Dis Pater that much?
Wow this was a top Tier intro skit
I would love to see smth like Kash Rulers in the future
YEAAAAAHHH I've been running the Armed Dragon/Dragon Ruler stuff since they unbanned the deck. They also work surprisingly well with Kashtira cards I learned
I cant wait for the next Payne to start doing their 'X amount of days until good dragon ruler support'.
Man, it would've been hilarious to hear Tidal going into another room, the OCG's room.
I want a 24 hour livestream of Joseph staring at his door waiting for his water daddy to come home.
Nothing more satisfying that seeing a summon limit resolve 😊
I've been enjoying them as unbrickers in master duel dragon link, but they definitely wouldn't be worth it if we had wyverburster, the third quick launch and an extra 2 saronir.
Seeing the Armed Thunders in this list make me so happy
There’s some pretty solid utility but when you think about it that’s all they kind of are. A pretty solid toolbox to get where you need to go that if the opponent has the right interruption then you’re doomed. Then again with enough interruption any deck would be stopped in their track. Still seems pretty fun though.
I knew exactly where the intro joke was going, but I still laughed hysterically
I play them in dragon link and they make awesome extenders.
Maybe in silver
Yah I debating on since bystals are great but not much room especially since droll and Maxx c are must
To be fair, you could actually just throw in the Armed Thunder level 10 as a one-of just to get the quick effect pop as well.
Dragon Rulers being called jank made me age like the milk that Tidal is still out getting
"These dominant daddies" he can't keep getting away with it!!
Listen, I'm a Master Duel player, I'm just living the dream with 3 Tidal in Tearlament.
you know, it may be the non-engine that won it, but the Dragon Rulers got you there. never forget what they did for the win
Literally full power on MD. It just costs way too many URs or I would've messed around with them. Just missing Super Rejuvination but that hopefully stays the case.
We're not even playing the rank 7 Dragon that pops as a quick effect lol
they're all back and they have some wild support
Reminder that all 4 Dragon Rulers are unlimited in MD, Galaxy Tomahawk and Auroradon are legal, and yet, this deck does absolutely nothing.
Doesn't Master Duel have Maxx 'C'?
@@thekoifishcoyote8762 Maxx "C" makes every deck worse, except Stun and Floowandereeze, so that's not the reason is not playable, the reason is a decade of powercrept.
@@Ragnarok540just chain droll oh wait called by is at 2 & shifter is at 3 but they use called on Ash because droll couldn't be sent to gy. They made talents easier access makes you wonder why those rumors about 70% of MD players or more are alts.
@@CudaWudaShudaBro will just say anything just to pretend cards from 10 years ago are still strong.
@@t-nmint5381 it's not about 10 years ago even goat is a pain & was a pain it dates back to effect monsters I get it vanillas are stale but then take rush duels those started as vanillas games adapt I get it I just don't want to be a part of oh nice 5 monster board I'll super poly it all away with Yubel then lose to ash imperm 5 minutes later in the duel. I got into it in highschool now 28 I think I'ma try magic the gathering you don't see s poly for 5 in magic or branded do you? Game is less diverse less expensive look at Pokemon or Vanguard way more exciting more playerbase I bet Dueling Book has 1k peak players think about it that # can be smaller soon will be smaller.
Ive been playing dragon ruler in master duel... before the RDA stuff arrived it was so fun drawing 5 cards during my endphase thanks to super rejuvenation
Yeah, I'll just wait to see waht atlantean cook with tidal
Tidal doesn't send for cost to trigger atlanteans so have fun going -2 to send the crystron that makes a token or whatever
@@_g_h_ yes It does, they all do
@@Buzterer I'm sorry, I was assuming you meant the foolish effect and that no one would seriously have the opinion "just wait until atlanteans get back one more unsearchable discard outlet that's worse than abyssteus". My bad
@@_g_h_ actually It would be more of a soft garnet, actually. The discard outlet IS the small one, the follosh effect IS the consolatipn if you draw it
in order to fix dragon rulers being underwhelming i think they should print light and dark dragon rulers that help patch up some of their weaknesses im sure nothing could possibly go wrong doing that :)))))))))
Dragon Link would like to agree with you.
let be honest, it would just end up as d-link cards rather than rulers'
You mean Bystials. Lubellion is essentially a Ruler if the rulers were good cards
The mkohl40 bit spun my head around a complete 360 degrees
I quite enjoy this build, think I’m gonna try it out
Armed Dragon Rulers is the best way to play dragon rulers, getting value in your discards just makes sense
Meawhile in MD, ALL Dragon Rulers are unabanned, with acces to Tomahak... And it flopped. IF these were released like, 3 or 5 years ago, they would've have a chance to be relevant again, but clearly they spent more time in prison than they should
dragon rulers are less good with maxx c around
they were rares also in og prints. xD, We all know why they never came of. Just look at shs,..or how quick and sus unchained got hit. We have no poor people jokes for reasons in ygo rn. Every cheap deck gets hit while expensive stay.
Cute, considering how maxx c was around when they came out, with maxx c being a tcg first card and all...
@@PapayaPowder yeah but the handtraps were effect veiler and d.d. Crow.
@@xatuyou8045 Technically also Maxx C, but it doesn't interrupt their plays, just gives you a bigger stick to punch them with the next turn, which is still quite good considering the importance of Priestess + spellbook of power + the master in the mirror, not to mention spiritualist BS just destroying all special summons; there's a reason why the rulers were never tier 0, or why in HAT Spellbook decks are still top tier even with nerfs.
*_TIDAL IS HOME_*
That mkohl40 jump scare took me back
When Tidal comes back we'll have cerveza cristal instead of milk
0:00 does that Milk joke come from anywhere in particular or is it just a reference to Tidal still being banned.
7:08 kash cant play the rank7 otk line, all "rebellion" rank7 monsters are dragon/pendulum locked except for overlord, _but_ you can only special overlord opt
honestly the home for rulers is probably just Dlink extenders or as support for their respective elemental decks like Blaster in fire decks, rather than as their own dedicated deck
This aged well
6:58 and playing nicely with the attributes
fun video none the less, loved seeing the armed dragons
It is at minmum very cool, I might build it in Master duel to get that thriple level 10 synchro adrenaline hit 😂
Tidal is back
Lightsworn Dragon Ruler was fun back in the day
Finally, Twenty Minute Testing
I've been playing them with Horus engine cause matching attributes are cute and you can otk going second very easy and all your cards are very good with the new Horus being a free send to no targeting send a card opponents control and be replaced with new field spell
I'm glad the legacy of robbie kohl hasn't died, he still uploads frequently and has a good span of different videos
Forgot the 4th effect of the Rulers 😔😔😔 Gold Sarc is cryin in the corner
I farkin love MBT openings man 😂😂😂😂 especially the D/D/D one
Well son, he's back with the milk.
Lets see if in the new banlist(Which I hope is in a way or less), we get to see the water dragon ruler getting limited to experience some more variety in decks in the format
When Tidal didn't got back with the milk, i felt that....... 😭😭😭😭😭😭
I’ve been running snake-eyes salamangreat with one of the first cards I ever got Blaster, Dragon Ruler of Infernos.
O bet can't wait
New series idea: do a tournament of the competing builds for an archetype to determine what's best. This is one that could use it, there are a million flavors of armed dragon/kashtira/dragon ruler/rose dragon/rank 7 combo decks.
I can’t wait for tidal send reinoheart
Tidal got the wrong address and went to the OCG
Do they any synergy with red eyes cards or is there not enough diffrerent attributes for them to really go off?
i would be down of a loop of you just setting in a room looking at the door waiting for tidal. 4 like an hour.
What cards should I take out to add the water dragon and the water baby dragons?
I like your Parodies. They are really funny 😄
MBT not gonna lie you have turned from a moderately jank enthusiast to full blown I love making, mixing, and experimenting with jank now. Jank is awesome. So thanks for that lol.
I've been working on a water dragon cluster deck for like the past week, specifically for the fireking and snakeyes. Ive tried labrynth with rollback and bonding-dho to summon water dragon cluster. Ive tried pure water dragon with trade-in and sacred sword of seven stars with a small dino pack. Kairyu-shin & water dragons, but i think the most consistent so far has been water dragon/icejade. Mermails are good too. The bonding/chemical archetype needs support so badly. 😅 I'd appreciate any help if anyone more well-versed in ice jade than i am could help me out. I know theres better anti-pyro/fire decks, but water dragon and water dragon clusters effects are really good
A smol world would fit perfectly there as well
I completely forgot red rose dragon is on the banlist for halqs sins
Me a kashtira player... "We've been playing the Rebellion package?"
Ive never been this early holy shit
Tidal with Stream would be absolutely disgusting with the upcoming Atlantean/Mermail support. I'm running it in MD lol.
I’d be curious to see what Dragonmaid could do with the Rulers. Although Dragonmaid sucks, it feels a bit like those cards were designed with the Rulers in mind.
Well MBT, I'm back with the milk
Well Farfa, I’m back with the milk
Tidal is back!
You should have added the new rank 7 "Blaze, Supreme Ruler of Dragons" for the meme
Tidal's coming home soon; his flight home is just taking a while.
did you consider super rejuvenation at all? It seems like it would be perfect for drawing into handtraps
unirinocally its to slow for modern format. every card in hand has to be handtrap or gas, for that to be good you have to run 20 handtraps cyberse style, and this deck can't. Might as well pick a heatsoul turbo deck then.
It's crazy that MBT forgot about this card, it has so much synergy with dragons this format.
5:27 Rank?
If you have only like 4 spells shouldn’t you try to be on sekka’s light or some other payoff?
would they not have potential with thunder dragon with the synergy and recursion on banishment?
you cant banish thundras with the rulers or use them for the discard effects so not really
HEY where's armed dragon thunder lv10 and armed dragon white lv10?
Edit also WHY is both forms of odd eyes rebelion dragon in that extra deck????
Caught this earlier than I ever have
I guess you could say this
Rules
OH! OH! OH!
D R A G O N R U L E R S
5:23
Level 10s
Man, Tidal works so well in Ghoti, I wish they released him
Tidal: WELLL SON IM BACK WITH THE MILK MOTHER LOVER HAHAHAHAHAHAH
What about a true king dragon ruler deck, seems like a fun idea
I’m going to play this in MD
What was the point in creating link monsters if you can summon more than one XYZ/Synchros that’s not pointing to the links arrows. I left this game and came back and that was the rule last time I played
Link monsters themselves are still bound by that rule (and pendulums summoned from the extra specifically, for some reason), and the link arrows also determine if cards are linked or co linked, which are relevant for some card effects.
It is pretty cringe they stopped making link monsters that don't care about their arrows instead of doubling down and making them extra important.
@@tinfoilslacks3750 I step away for a couple of years lol
@@tlb31mthe rules were changed 4 years ago
Well, he is here now,