What To Do If You're HARDSTUCK And How To Fix Your MMR
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*How to deal with being hardstuck - 2 step guide:*
_1. Close LoL client_
_2. Run Baldur's Gate 3_
That's one way to do it
agreed, this is the way my friends.
Delete lol, install ff14
for everyone that came on this video for a real way to fix ur mmr, this is how: (i tested it already and it works 100%). u gotta leave the acc that is "hardstuck" and not play on it for 15 days. max20 (if u want to be sure) and afther that riot will think u are "back" afther a while and make u play vs higher player. in those 15 days just play another acc ranked and try to improve. when this time ends u log back and all ur gains should be +30 +31 and -25. GL everyone. free tip ^^
Hardstuck ?
ahhhhh thats why i had an acc with +22 -30
and u decided to not play on it
after few weeks a friend asked to play ranked with him and whe. i won i got +35
Honestly I have suspision riot has whole team for social engineering and psychology side of the ranked gaming. Exactly this would be outcome of "lets give this returning player higher dopamine rush so he keeps playing our game and potentialy spends some cash"
And the opposite "this guy tryhards every day for several hours, he surely wants to climb, lets make it harder for him. What if he hitted desired rank and stopped playing"
Call it a tinfoil hat however you want, yet 50y ago they would burn today's datascientists for the magic we can do with user data nowadays.
@@WoodooChill true i realized something when u actually dont play in an acc and get a chest u ll get a skin for ur most played champs and those skins r probably lengendary
@@ilyas_XDi got two ultimate skin back to back after not playing for two month
It’s very discouraging to have a consistent 65%+ winrate for 50+ games and to see my high LP gains flip on its head almost overnight with no loss streaks or change in opponent’s rank.
Suddenly, a 65% winrate is what I have to keep just to avoid demoting.
I figured it had to be that climbing too fast caused the MMR to need more games to catch up. It still feels like I’m being held back for no reason, but it’s nice to see I’m not the only one and that other people are beating the same issue with a better attitude than me.
Yeah, gotta remember, the only ither thing we can do besides complaining is to just play, so might as well throw the complaining out of the window (although giving Riot feedback is always good)
@@Tonirel i have a 60% W/r and get +15 -30 i instantly stoped playing this shit is not worth my time Riot is just to brain damaged to fix there trash game
same for me. I have had the same MMR for 130 games now and I held a 60% winrate. Actually I think my MMR has gotten even worse
@@igouliliaszerone8967MMR changes are based on who you're playing against. So if the game puts you against lower ranked players you're not going to gain much. I'm in the same boat. It's really hard to find motivation to grind for no reward.
I’m at 61% win rate right now from Plat 4 to Emerald 2 and I’m gaining 15 and losing 30. I’ll need to keep a win rate above 67% at this point to even climb higher
toni the league therapist, healing our ptsd
I never thought about myself that way, but maybe it's true to a certain degree :D
This video changed my perspective of ranked altogether, I managed to escape emerald and I'm diamond 3 49 lp as of today. I had been high plat for years, this was the mental shift I needed, i failed promos to diamond in the past the difference is I focused way too much on rank and this year I DIDN'T GIVE UP. Thank you for this video.
I ofc watched a lot of content on macro and have improved my game knowledge a lot, but the mental aspect is so huge I couldn't have done it witjout it. Understanding how the ranked system works made me feel a lot less frustrated when I lose games, if I play good I eventually climb it's that simple.
I'm glad to hear, honestly!
Climbing on League is a whole journey of self improvement as a player and as a person :D
@@facundosilva2449I am on my way too, currently on Emerald II expecting to get to Diamond this season, it’s been very hard since my MMR is a bit messed up but I won’t give up that easily
i played 120 games straight (90% solo queue) with a 65% wr and my MMR barely improved. There's something very fishy about MMR this season, I've never struggled so hard with inting teammates as I have this season, I've also never carried as hard as I have this season but my rank does not reflect my improvement due to shitty LP gains.
I recently made a new video about this subject, I do agree there is something sus about this season, check out the pinned comment!
@@Tonirel 4 wins 1 lost and i got Silver IV for the new season while my friend became gold 1. Why is this happening? Im hardstuck in silver since last season
@@Tonirel My bigguest issue to your answer of playing 3000 games to fix your mmr is the average player doesnt even have nough time for 600 games
Happy that I'm not the only noticing it, as other people in the comments are experiencing same results. I've a smurf account, did from Iron to Gold keeping a steady 60% plus wr. Took 100 games and I'm still winning +21 and losing -27.
This is frustrating for me, because it makes everything way longer than needed and also for those matched against me who keep getting outclassed from minute one. The supposed "smurf" queue wasn't even an answer to it, because it was intentionally gatekeeping smurfs in a certain elo even if they didn't belong there (ask yourself what is gonna happen if you put top 10% in the same queue in silver).
Smurfs should be free to flight through ranks unless they're intentionally tanking the MMR, which is a whole different topic and applies only to a certain category of players.
Boosters and stuff were never really a problem bigger than the disparity in matchmaking that instead keeps getting worse and worse as seasons go by.
Best!
We scale into next season! (hopefully)
THATS GOOD BRO I GET +16 -30 THAT SHOULDNT EVEN HAPPEN
i have ranked anxiety and for that reason i don't play ranked that much, i was 2 wins away from emerald and then i started going on a losing streak and dropped to p3, after a while i played again and i am like 5 wins away from emerald now, and im just afraid to Q up cuz i think i might not be able to hit emerald and start going on a losing streak again, but i think this video was what i needed to hear. i will play no matter what. thank you good sir, you earned yourself a sub, keep the great content
It honestly makes me so happy to help people enjoy the game that I love so much!
I'm glad I can help you!!
just came back to say i hit emerald. now im aiming for diamond. thank u again
I have "studied" this game for one month, like I have studied my courses at university. I took all Skill-caped content (I mean, €18 for 1 month is nothing) and wrote about 40 pages of text containing general knowledge about the game (wave control, trading, CS, vision, makro, efficiency, mechanics, ganking, Jungle clearing, Champ-Specific (Matchups), item specific, Summoner Spells) were my main chapters (I play mostly Yasuo mid, and Heca jungle). It was hard work, and I'm not done with it, but it dramatically helped me to understand the game and REALLY learn it. Just watching videos was just not enough, and now I know what people mean when they say, "Masters and above is a completely different game." Oh boy, is that true... :D
That's serious dedication! Props to you!!
Already got results?
@@henrik360 sitting in plat 1 and practising ;)
The reason for the negative gains is because of the combination of increased LP gains + removal of the promotion system + fully switching to MMR-only based matchmaking (before S13, it was a combination of your MMR + rank).
Before, when you got to 100 LP with your normal gains, you had to win a promotion series. Those were 2 (for in-division) or 3 (for tier) games where you gained MMR, but didn't gain LP. This resulted in you not flying off in ranks while your MMR still increased for each win.
But now, there's no promotions. You reach 100 LP -> you straight up go to the next rank. In previous seasons, +20 was considered average gains and it took 5 games to reach 100 LP, compared to the +25 average now, making them 4 games instead.
Combine this with actually getting more LP than before (initially), your rank shoots off far ahead of your MMR. The MMR gains weren't increased when the LP gains were.
So you end up in a situation where you MMR is maybe a whole tier behind your rank. I would bet anyone who has negative LP gains to check the average rank of their games and it would be far lower than their account's rank. For example, if you're Emerald 4, you're most likely playing in a game of average rank Platinum 3 (this would mean there are both Gold and Emerald players in your game at the same time).
The system simply sees that your rank does not match your MMR and tries to adjust it -> you gain less LP and lose more in order to make you go back to where you supposedly belong (since the system is based on MMR, not on rank).
Edit: They also removed smurf queue. Before, if you win streaked a lot (or your gameplay showed signs of playing far above the average player), you would be put in a separate queue to be matched with similar "smurfs". Your MMR gains would also be increased in order to quickly shoot you ahead in MMR and rank in order to get rid of you from ruining low elo games. This is no longer the case, so even if you winstreak a lot, your MMR doesn't get boosted (or at least not nearly as much as before; I am not completely sure on this point).
I never thought that removing promotion series would affect mmr but it only makes sense. I'm still waiting for the reintroduction of ELO system. Transparency would fix a lot of rank vs mmr issues.
then you are not really smart huh ? @@jeloxale
Care to elaborate?@@Tetrathegod
All this shoes how trash Riot games is they are to stupid to fix there own game XD but hey soon we get new skins...
the problem people have with mmr and why they switch accounts is because when you reach +17 -30 you would need hundreds of games in that season in order to fix your mmr. people just want to play the game and climb if they are performing well, riots mmr is a joke. i have a friend that had close to 70% wr in the 1st part of s13 and finally climbed out of g4 after 4 years, but his mmr was +17 -30 which made no sense considering that he had 70% wr and his gains didnt change at all for over 200 games, so you are telling me that he should just stick with that account and be forced to have over 65% wr in order to climb like nah
I made a video about this problem again, I feel like I have a better opinion on MMR now! I agree that we shouldn't be forced to play 8 hours a day just to fix mmr
@Tonirel ye. im experiencing this rightbnow. im a dia player and i started playing on an old bronze acc bc main got banned. i was 17-3 in games, gaining 40lp on the 1st and on the 20th game but my nmr went from bronze to emerald... i started winning less games obviously and my mmr keeps getting lower although im a silver playing in emerald lobbies this makes no sense, at least give me the rank of emerald. also i have games where i have 4 golds on my team and im silver and the enemy has only plats/emeralds on the team lmao
I was griefed from D3 to Emerald 2 a few weeks ago, and I could never carry as a low damage tank. Now I am Emerald 1 with +19/-30 while performing well every game... yeah idk about this one guys. For context I'm a coach with multiple Master and GM students.
yeah... they really need to fix the system xD
I had not played the game in 7 years was plat1 during that time. But since the season before I just did my 10 first games it gave me silver 4 I got silver 4 again this season. But the players in this low elo plus the broken system completely screw me over. So i been from bronze 3 to silver 4 up and down several times in a row. I did a new account and I am plat 2 now almost plat 1. Like your account gets so cursed based on previous seasons. Plus when it is fresh the mmr is fully reset so you actually get to a more realistic rank based on your actual performance rather than past mmr. Cause if you end up in silver or bronze. The time it takes to get out of there is just insane. Plus the mentality you need to bite through those horrendous games is just on another level.
I feel like League tests us as a person, it's insane, Riot challenges our patience every time we press the "queue up" button and now that the MMR system is not working too great, it's even more crazy than before
Honestly, if you are hardstuck in low ranks just like i was. Quit the game and enjoy life, it is worth it.
It is an option, but, rank doesn't mean everything, we don't all have to grind the ranked ladder if we don't want to
People complaining how to improve because hardstuck in emerald or diamond. Here I am stuck in Silver minding my own business 😅
You have less stress on your head, that's great for you :D
I was gaining 15lp and losing 27-29lp on plat 1 and had to literally game it and won 9 out of 10 of my games to reach emerald, my lp gains are still sh*t though despite me having 60%+ winrate.
I really hope they fix the lp gains next season, Riot expects us to play this game 8 hours a day or what?
I fixed my MMR with inting like 20 games in a row, then climbing back up. I usually end up higher than before and I get rid of all the +14/-22 LP games. Takes about 200 games to get back to the point, but it works.
Inting is fixing it, riots system is broken
Great video. I get +22 and loose -26 in emerald, almost your example. I have 60% Wr on 80 Games from G2 - E3. I just dont know why my mmr can be so low with such a high Wr.
Yeah, mmr changes way slower than your rank, so you will need to have patience :(
Riot really wants us to climb throughout multiple seasons, not in a big burst in a season, unfortunately
@@Tonirelit's just too real, that how they do it
The biggest problem is that they fucked up low elo MMR and rank system when introducing emerald. That rank includes old G1 up to old low D4, so it's a big mess and it's really hard to calibrate both MMR and rank in that specific interval.
THIS ISNT EVEN BAD I GET +16 -30 IN EMERALD WITH 65% WINRATE IDK WHY =
@@Tonirel and fuck the players who only have time to play on weekends
i was plat 3 with 84 lp and now im plat 4 , 0 lp. huge lost streak for me, i was like with 53% win rate and now im almost with 39%....im so sad about this
I hope this will make you feel better: winrate really doesn't mean much in the beginning, if you have less than 100 games, even one lose can change your winrate by 1-2% so it really doesn't matter :D The only thing that matters is that you improve over time!
i was at lik 70% winrate in bronze and now ive dropped to 35% my last like 20 games cause my teammates were beyond bad... i was 2lp off silver now im almost bronze 3
Best advice i can give to most people here is - be willing to dodge more games, your winrate is worth more than your LP in the long run and losing 10 LP for a game that you didn't get your main pick and/or the match up is really unfavourable isn't as bad as taking an actual loss and losing the MMR too
Honestly, dodging is quite OP, that's why they had to nerf it so many times, but still, Riot shouldn't force us to dodge, it's not an okay system...
@@Tonirel As much as im not a fan of dodging, their are some valid reasons you might want to dodge so i don't think they can really stop it completely . In the past I've had team member who banned my champion and dropped some negative comments in the lobby before games starts, when dealing with a troll or someone who is clearly on tilt I tend to dodge that game too regardless of the LP loss.
I wish dodging wasn't part of the game but at the same time, I don't really want to HAVE to play the games where its doomed or looks toxic before it even started because its that bad to dodge a game. Note i don't think we should just be dodging lots of games ether just, I think its fair to say no one wants to play with that Lucian top who called everyone in lobby a "N1GG3R".
I think in the grand scheme of things winrate is more important than LP so as long as dodging don't count as a loss, its going to always be kinda worth it to dodge unfavourable games because
A: you are more likely to keep your WR higher than 55% (I had near 70% wr doing this)
B: your LP gains are based on your MMR and even if you take the LP hit your MMR is the same and in the long run, you will climb more consistently for it
Note i used to NEVER dodge and i could never leave gold, after i started dodging games I found my WR sky rocketed and my rank climbed
It is some demoralizing to lose multiple games in a row. Idk which is worse, playing bad yourself or getting teammates with iq below room temperature.
Neat tip to you iron account sellers. Take your account to silver and hold it at the Silver 4 derank shield as long as possible. The mmr will get crazy but the derank shield is based on win/loss so you keep farming negative MMR. When you notice mmr at a critical -30, break the seal and you'll ride loser's queue all the way to iron. Wait for the next season for the MMR reset and $$$$.
Okay, this man is saying the right thing. I can approve that after watching some JG streamers and watching my videos every time I lose. and how to avoid my mistakes. My win rate is now above 64% g1, and I am on my way to Diamond [just for this season until now].
Way to go!!
Im a jungle main, i was never stuck. Be careful with your role decision!
Good for you! Hopefully it will stay this way
> "Don't give up, you need to play more"
>" i was stuck in diamond for 4 years"
i have 11 acc hand lvld by myself! what's the problem with that? i just want to buy different champs, play different roles, dodge and be able to play bc i have 10 dodge chances per day! XD
There's nothing wrong with that, of course, you do you, but I personally find it a bit excessive and I personally never dodge anyway 😅
@@Tonirelso if you see a toxic team mate you just aint dodge cause you like to suffer? are u a real adc main? (love to suffer 4 "fun") XD
in bottom bad support may hinders your game and if you play nice jungler,mid gank you many times you lose games because dont can stay strong. Don't play bottom if you're solo.
Used to think that until I noticed a lp ratio issue. After a month I started keeping track of things. 2+ months at a 62% win rate with an aggregate -64% lp ratio. System's borked.
The problem that i have here is that no matter how well i perform, going 26/2 with vex while having an olaf and adc who's intentionally feeding, the lp i lose is 28-30 while what i gain is only 19-22. One lose is equivalent to two wins
I did make a new video about this, check the pinned comment, it's crazy how bad the lp gains can become for some people, it's not fair
I have same issue, now imagine you play support who depends on teammates much more than other roles.
@@WoodooChill riot should just remove the mmr system and go back to the old system
thank you for the lesson, i will keep improving! very chill video!
No worries, I'm glad I can help, I have way more educational content planned for the following day, hope you'll find it useful!
i was getting -30 +20 on my account and I had a 46% WR over 400 games, then I did Emerald 4 0LP to D4 1LP in 42 games with 78% WR on Nautilus support going Aftershock/precision, full tank, bramble nearly every game. I only play for Diamond as i have way bigger goals outside of league (bench 315, squat and dl over 500+, i own 3 investment properties, and earn 165k a year from my engineering role + my time w/ my gf), but last season I hit diamond 2 in 50 games with 60% WR, this season took me like 400 games just to find out all I had to do was meta abuse full tank nautilus. now im just ARAM'ing until seasons over, only playing a decay game or two.
Honestly, I believe that League should be just a game for the average person. In my opinion, getting past diamond is a serious commitment of your time and effort and it's not worth it at all if you have other things going on in life, like yourself.
League is just a game, it does not affect our life whatsoever, way to go my man, keep improving yourself in real life!
League can remain just a video game where we have fun, especially with Nexus Blitz coming up next patch!
I just bought 3 accounts and played on those.
Went from being stuck Emerald 2 to getting Diamond 1 on all three.
It's just worthless to play on old accounts, the only downside is not having a bunch of skins to pick from really.
So yeah, buy a new account and enjoy the game more.
Well, if you only care about your rank, sure, you can do that, but honestly, getting that rank on your main account is the best feeling ever, sadly though, Riot thinks otherwise
I've had incredibly WEIRD ass MMR breaks in the past. Situations where I carry 75% of games that I win over 20 and somehow the LP per win/loss doesn't change and sometimes even got worse. I've had a 50 game 70% winrate situation where my MMR went down. This has happened to me multiple times on multiple accounts. It's sad I didn't record my experience because even when it was happening I was shocked and frustraited.
We can only hope that the MMR system will improve in the future
its not impossible to happen, i have a 58% winrate with 200games, was past season master am this season dropping in and out of master losing 27-28 and gaining 21-23.
Last season i had 200games with overall 64% wr, still had negative gains started d1 ended master 100lp
Riot really needs to do something about it, honestly, it's not normal to have negative lp gains with positive winrate
I am only gaining 15 lp and losing 31 lp with a 60% winrate and got to emerald 3, Idk what to do anymore, each loss just kills the progress made
Keep playing, you probably don't have enough games yet.
Also, Riot said that they will make adjustments so this situation doesn't happen again
@@Tonirel I have 120 games climbed all the way from silver to emerald.
Go 100 more with 60% winrate and things will change! I know it sucks but iti is what it is
@@Tonirel if I go one hundred more games = 15*100 =1500 lp total, 31 per loss * 45(lets say I eventually get 55% winrate) = -1395 lp, so 1500-1395 = 105 lp, thats only one tier higher. Isnt it evil how the math works here? Lets say I do get 60% winrate, -31*40=-1240, meaning 1500-1240=260 lp, 2 and a half tiers up. But lets be realistic, 100 games is alot, and my mental had gone down the drain cause of this mentally taxing game so 55% is more realistic, therefore, itll take 300 games just to get to diamond 4, I think this system is broken, I have not played a rank game from any multiplayer with a broken gain system like this, its so mentally taxing, its frustrating, waste of time, cause of forced losses,etc…
I feel you... Sadly, the only thing we can do is play more
I just powered my way through platinum to get to emeral with 20(22 max) lp gains and 28-32 lp loss lmao. Fixing the elo is really difficult, even if you manage to have more win than loses, it takes time for the game to adjust it.
I feel like they added the new Emerald tier just to curse people. It feels so annoying to have to go through emerald as well if you want diamond... And on top of that, emerald lp gains seem to be horrible for almost everyone, it's can't just be players being unlucky, there might be something rotten about it... I made an update video to this one, see if you agree with my opinion there!
There is no fix to that, i was 10 times in emerald 1 80lp and every game i was getting 2 autofilled, jg and adc and was imposible to carry those games. I just give up with that account and started in a fresh, currently 41V 12 D3 with master mmr, sadly is the only way, untill the restart of the season.
Sadly, yes, it seems to be the only way, and I think I know why, I talk more about this subject in my newest video about mmr, go check it out! Link should be in the pinned comment
Every time I touch silver 1- silver 2 I feel like all my games are uphill struggles. My teammates complete morons. The score is always 20 kills for enemy and 4 for mine. Also I have weird matchups where my top is like a bronze 1 vs a plat 3
I miss the old days where you didn't have to play 500 games just to reach Diamond lmao, winning 200/300 games barely being enough to climb is an absolute fking joke
Honestly, emerald tier means you need to climb 400 more lp, which is just crazy!
Then explain me this: So i started in gold and climbed so fast to emerald 4 gaining 30 Lp per game. I had 68% win rate so i won basically most of my games, Ever since i got to emerald 4 i started gaining only 19-21 LP. Why ?? I'm performing good every single and that is shown in the win rate. Now in emerald i only got shitty teams and dropped to plat 2. Teams don't seem to improve. Even if i play perfectly, team will still lose.
I know it sucks, but the only thing we can do is keep playing!
Although, they said that they are working on a fix for this exact same issue, so maybe waiting a little bit wouldn't hurt
@@Tonirel it already hurts for another split cuz my win rate went down to shit. It's just bad system. Imaging slowing u down bcs u "climb too fast" and perform well.
I completely agree that it's a bad system
-22 +28 is the dream, im stuck on +17 - 32 with a 53% wr
No problem, we scale to next season!
same for me bro, I am Emerald 2 atm and i just can´t get out it´s disgusting
Hopefully things improve!
your explanations are great, thanks for your effort you put into your videos!
I appreciate it a lot, thank you!
Emerald 1, I get +19 -30. I climbed to Diamond with this mmr. First game in diamond, my first win +27. Now Im d2 and least amount i got for a win is 25, so either emerald is doing this for a reason, or quickly changed it's mind about me and changed my mmr. Just focus on improving over lp. If you can't, than lpay norms. If you feel like playing norms is waste of time because you don't get any numbers up, then always ask yourself questions throughout the game to focus on your gameplay only.
MMR is weird, but never an excuse! I agree with you
yea, last month i was gaining +22 -28 in emerald 4 with 56%, I didnt give up, now im emerald 3 with the same winrate and i gain 16 and lose 32 :P, gg riot
that's kind of messed up. I seriously thought that things would only improve if you keep performing, but apparently their system is completely broken :D
@@Tonirel the weird things is that i even tried to duo with some of my friends that are Emerald 1/2 but nothing change, even if i was playing into higher elo mmr
I guess we'll just have to scale into next season and see if things will change!
Had 63 percent winrate and my lp gains were +17 -29 in emerald. Made a new account and now I get +41 in emerald :D. And it takes so few games to get to emerald. About 15. Tldr: dont waste your time trying to fix your lp gains. Just get a new account for 5 euros and swim in the lp ocean
can u explain how it takes over 50 games maybe 100 to fix your mmr but i lost 7 games in a row and went from +27 -25 to -31 and +22??????
Hearing you talk over yourself is jarring. i keep thinking there is someone in discord talking
So all i need to climb is to simply play a lot more games for the game to finally recgonize me as a higher rank. I was almost gold at one point
If you keep going and you keep improving, it's impossible not to climb, it just takes serious dedication to the game, and it's a bit hard to invest so much time and effort into a video game usually
losing 30 lp and gaining 18 in iron 1 is brutal man :(
it is brutal, I agree, but, you can only go up from there, and self improvement is way better than gaining LP, in the long run, so let's just say you play to improve this season, and next season you play to climb, remember, it's not a race, it's a marathon!
Hello, I don’t understand what I did wrong in my climb . I started playing league like 2 years ago. I got placed b4 and didn’t play ranked anymore. I mean I did not finish my placements that season. I was not sure about how is it going to affect my mmr but I was sure that the next season I will get placed higher or at least b4 again. I got placed i1, climbed up to b4 and finished my split there. The next split I got placed in i2,went on a 5 game lose streak and suddenly when In one session I won one and lost one game I was -14 LP . FROM 1 WIN AND 1 LOSS! Could sb explain why did i broke my mmr I mean why did my gains became horrible, and can I still fix my accounts mmr? Oh and btw does the technique with not playing for 15 days and then getting higher LP gains work? I’d like to Try it but I’m not sure if there is any reason for it to work. Thanks for help!
just focus on playing well, nothing else matters! I know it can get annoying, but trust me, it's true!
Am vzt ca esti roman, iti zic experienta mea. 3 sezoane am fost bronz si silver si acum in split 2, dupa ce am jucat shyvana, am ajuns plat 4. Nu am mai jucat, iar dupa inca vreo 3 4 patch-uri am jucat pana am scazut in gold 2 in urma unui lose streak (inainte aveam 70% wr, in prezent am 48%). Acum mi am dat seama ca eu chiar nu jucam de platina, mai eram si toxic, mi ai deschis ochii:)))
LoL-ul e mai mult decat un joc, e o provocare de a devenii mai buni! Sun ca popa, dar in fine, ma bucur ca te-am ajutat xD
i was adc main for 5 years i believe i can get higher as support so i swapped 3 days ago and its been a blast i was emerald 4
ADC role ain't the best right now for soloQ. But things will change eventually, power will shift and all roles will feel powerful eventually
@@andoryus true and what is also true almost 80% of the supports suck so bad
Did the same, turns out the years of bot knowledge came in very handy, went from gold all the time to consistent plat and now emerald multiple seasons. Turns out a lot of support players suck, maybe they lack the nuance from not maining both roles.
So basically I just have to keep up a winrate suggesting my rank should be higher for 100-200 games while continuing to drop ranks due to shit MMR, just so I can actually start climbing. OR I can just start a new account and get to the same place in a fraction of the time. Some of us have lives bro.
Yeah, I can completely understand your point, the reality is that they want us to play a lot, which is not very good for us, players. The fact that Riot expects us to grind this game daily is just crazy, climbing takes way to much time in my opinion, but, for now, playing more is the only thing we can do
Def the hard part of switching accounts for me is champ pool. I change my champs every seaon but try to stick with 3 picks a lane. Gets tough with buffs/nerfs, map, item changes. However sticking with one role/ champ is the way around this. Im the player that goes oh well my adc fed 3 games so i will que bot to negate that. However displining yourself to a main and role def was my biggest gain. At the end of the day there is coinflip in matchmaking
Really nice video what do you think about dodging games to increase your mmr?
I'm glad you liked it!
Dodging games doesn't increase your MMR, it only makes you lose LP and so your actual rank is closer to your MMR, giving you a false impression that your MMR has increased
@@Tonirel I see but by decreasing your rank and bringing it closer to your mmr while you have a positive win rate will lead to better lp gains faster. I dodged atleast 2 times a day on my main account which I hit challenger on and my mmr and lp gains were getting better each time by dodging I literally achieved Challenger not to mention pushed for top 50 euw in early season. Ofc like you mentioned I was winning around 60% of my games so that helped a lot as well. That's why I wanted to ask you this because I was not sure if the mmr increase was from winning a lot or the dodging helped a lot as well
In your case, I'd say that you would've achieved Challenger anyway, I will always believe that if somebody deserves a certain rank, they will achieve it no matter what, as long as they put in the time and effort into it
@@Tonirel I totally agree. Thank you for your time I appreciate it
Tbh i just made another account and beat my all time rank playing 80% less games, getting emerald in under 15 games vs 100 feels so good lol
well I was p2, peaked d3 with 80% winrate on vayne and 65% on xerath and it took me ~100 games. My gains went from +18 -25 to +28 -19. I was still stompinf botlanes and often doing mvp or ace after I peaked diamond. But then Inwould start getting only smurf trolling my lanes, goung mental and inting. Games horrible and out of my control which felt bad after 2 weeks of decent games with nice mates. I am not emerald 2 and slowlty trying to get back to diams after I feel like riot made me demote. I didn't change my playstyle and kept gapping botlanes. I just feel like the game wanted me to go back and now my mmr sucks again and it takes ages to get back my elo
I started playing game s12 and never was really stuck. Always soent a lot of time working on concepts and learning. I feel better than the games I'm in and I will often drop 15 kills or + but will too often have a teamate rage quitting or smth or simply'trolling the game. Add do this the fact that communicating is getting harder and harder it's so hard to carry games alone as often as I could.
Yeah, I agree that the games are harder to carry now, and games are way more back and forth since there are bounty systems implemented
This is actually best motivation video for league ive ever watched man even if it wasnt intend to be a motivation video :D
I'm glad you feel that way!
what do ido if im in a massive losers q. the first 3 games i thought it was my faut but after 9 loses in a row i dont know what to do ive been playing fine
You could play on a different account, or play some normal games to get that sense on victory again!
And remember, last game doesn't dictate how the next game will go, it's all in our heads, if anything, us, ourselves, play worse after a defeat so maybe taking a small break between games would help you, I know that some push ups between my League games helped me stay focused on the game more
The funniest things is me having p1 and playing mostly in p1 lobby sometimes p2 still getting +22 and losing -30 like what tf how it's possible also I won 6 in row once and got me from +22 to +23 like how it's working
It’s not ok, according to riot, mmm is using true skill 2, which is Bayesian based methods, long for short, in machine learning, bayesian based methods are features as fast convergence to the true distributions. If riot says it’s an Ann or cnn based method, it’s ok, but a Bayesian method shall converge to your true rank in less than 10 games. This only means either riot is not implementing their system correctly, or there are coding bug, you shall report it in game as bug, that what I do if that happens and not sorted in 10 games. And once I report it, it solved shortly.
+22 -28? brother I am +13 - 33
How cooked am I?
was 62% wr now 58% wr emerld 3 getting +22 -28 (around 60 games on an account that has only been ranked one season). Riot needs to figure it out
They did say that they are fixing it soon, let's hope for the best!
@@Tonirel They always say that to keep us hooked to the game. I been bronze-silver since 2009. I finally decided to buy a lvl 30 smurf who never went rank. Now, i'm gold 1 and it's easy AF to climb. gold 1 game on my smurf are easier than bronze or silver game. That is not normal at all.
imo, buying a new account gives you a false sense of accomplishment, but I can't condemn anyone for wanting to climb easier
@@Tonirel if you are able climb to a higher elo and continue to do well then it means you deserve be there. Also, my accounts have always been hard stuck bc i play 50+ champs a season and all different roles.
What cube do you have?
Just a 3x3 my brother got me for Christmas :D
Can you give advice on what I could watch every time I check my replays? I always find it hard everytime I replay a match, it's just hard to see what I could done better (except the times I die) I'm Emerald stuck now, last split I lost two diamond promos and I feel I can reach it but now that the emerald shift was done, I feel so much stuck than before and I do really want to improve and get better. My champ pool is the same, Xayah, Aphelios, Jinx, Ashe. My goal is at least reach Emerald 1-Diamond by the end of season. I don't want to give up, but there's some games that I feel I want to quit
Honestly, probably the best answer to your question is for you to watch this coaching session I had a month ago,you can see what I focused on in the replays we watched and it will teach you a ton of concepts and maybe you will even find the same mistakes this person was making!
Worth giving it a shot I'd say, although it's 2 hour long 😅
ruclips.net/video/B3Vcp5i7O1U/видео.htmlsi=npUihwG5XKoFviLp
what program do you run t oget the mnk showing up?
I have 63% win rate and getting +18/-27. Riot told me to win more :). I aint risking that shit. Fun fact : after 10 game winstreak my lp gain got worse by 1 lp from 19 to 18.
Trying to find the role i find easiest to carry I even tried supportw hich was going well for a bit and was almost silver but the game is makin gme lose 25 now and im gaining 22..
bro and i disagree with you, on my old account it took me 100 games to get emerald from plat 1, because I got - lp
but on a new account it took me 30 games to get to the emerald starting in gold, something is not okay with this
and also i have a positive win rate and now in em3 I get +16 -30, wtf
so its really really REALLY stupid that I have to play hundreds of games just to fcking prove riot that I am worth my current rank, where I carry 80% games
but yeah, in the end if you really want to tryjard the game you shouldn't look at the rank just on your gameplay, but for casual players its annyoing
I just made a video today about this, go check it out, maybe you'll agree as well!
very chill
I've played this stupid game for 300 matches, and damn it, I still haven't gotten out of Platinum rank. Damn it, I'm going crazy!
I was winning like 30 lp losing about 17 lp and then once I hit gold 2, I got multiple iron jgs in a row which was just an auto loss cause they’d either tilt and afk, feed or just not even exist in the game..perma farm and ignore all objectives. Makes 0 sense to me. Now I lose 30 and gain 18. Seems like getting past gold 2 is pure luck based on this shit matchmaking
My account is -30/+15 and I just wanna quit the season. It feels like no matter what I do, even if I win more than I lose that day, it is still a net loss.
It's fine, just play to improve and you scale into next season!
How do u fix +14 -34 with 50% wr?
after i got to s4 0 lp from s2-s1 i just gave up and started playing xerath supp. Im p4 now xd
If it works for you, we don't question it, keep doing it!
i TOLDD YOUU, the problems is in my teammates, every game.. xd
Dawg what are your keybinds my guy?
I made a whole video about how I kite and what keybinds I use, you can find the link if you go to my Twitch channel and type "!kite" in the chat, it works even if I'm offline, or just search "How I kite as a left handed adc - Tonirel" or something like that on youtube
Can someone explain to me why my mmr is platinum 2, but i dropped all the way from gold 1 to silver 4 getting +15 and -40 constantly?
In p1 throughout Plat I'm gaining 35 losing 15-20 that ok?
It's really okay, it means you're surfing on them platinum players, keep it up!
I gain 15 and lose 31. I dropped from emerald 4 to currently plat 4...
Uff.. Sucks to hear, I hope things will be better for you next season! It's coming really soon!
This happened to me aswell!! Was emerald 4 and now im demoted to plat 4 -30 LP per lose
Bro I take your tips in this video and apply it to other parts in life. thanks
Glad to hear that!
Hello, are you from Romania?
sir yes sir!
There is more info in the description of the video if you're interested
The MMR system is fucked, are you kidding...what your'e saying is exactly what they want, when they stack the queue with bots and npcs that purposefully throw the game, to KEEP you playing the game. It will take you hundreds of games with consistent win streaks to fix your MMR and once it's reached a certain point, it's impossible to fix. The only choice is to get a new account.
i was " stuck" emerald aswell on 2 accounts, for almost whole season, then i decided to buy a d4 account with like 55wr, i was getting +28 losing -22/3. In not even 10 days i hit fckin masters on that account. The new lp system is trash u just can t rank up on old accounts. If you get silver/gold from placements and u dare to lose 3 games till Emerald1, not even Caps/Faker can boost that account in Diamond xD
i think this is really bad advice, here is how it actually works:
to get bad mmr in the first place you need to play at the 4th division of any rank, like emerald 4, plat 4, diamond 4 and lose a bunch of games there, this is literally the only way to desynch your mmr from your actual rank, there is one easy way to fix this instantly: just demote intentionally, as soon as you demote, your mmr will instantly be fixed and you will get normal lp gains again. the demotion protection is what causes accounts to get hardstuck, if there was no demotion protection this would never happen. if you try his advice and try to climb while having bad mmr, you will actually get worse teammates because the system wants to match your mmr with your rank, thats why it always feels like an uphill battle, because it actually is. so my advice is: dont fight the mmr system, adjust to it and you will be fine. if your mmr is too good you will play against a bunch of smurfs and duos, if your mmr is too bad, the system puts you in games where you are supposed to lose, because it wants you to drop down, you want your mmr to always match your current elo, thats the sweet spot, thats where you get fair games. and if it is not in synch, you need to fix it manually and there are two ways of doing this: 1st method, is what he suggested: play thousands of games while keeping a positive winrate until the mmr eventually catches up, which in my opinion is pure insanity. 2nd method, you dont fight the mmr system, intentionally demote to manually match your mmr and lp and there you go, mmr is instantly fixed.
Sorry, but intentionally demoting is NEVER the option. You're just lowering your MMR and RANK, why would you do it?
Play the video in 1.5x speed to watch it in normal speed
Man this game is cracked!!!! I was emerald 3 hardstuck, giving 17-18 lp and lose 28, get some good games and try hard, go 18-4, emerald 1 34 lp, after going up to emerald 2 and 1 i recive only 15 lp and lose 31... WTF?? instead of increase my mmr by winning games in a row and climp it s going down... and after 6 losses in a row with troll bot and afk like always before i m emerald 3 again... Nice system riot!
Honestly, I don't get why we get punished if we do good... Anybody above 50% winrate should have good mmr in my opinion
Bro, what happen if i play with my duo and I'm g1 50 LP and he's g4 0 LP?
You'll probably play in g3-g2 games so not a big deal
Here's how you actually deal with the MMR issue. Boycott League so Riot finally fucking fixes it, it's been years. That said, it's never been as bad as this year, Emerald is actually stupid bad of an elo to be in, it's legit worse than Bronze, I'd rather play there, no wonder Iron accounts are so expensive...
Honestly, I do feel like the introduction of Emerald Tier is a bit strange
After 100 games of going back and forth emerald 4-3, I... gave up. Next seasn we go again
I as well hope that next season's mmr system will improve
love u man
Hey i,m like bronze 4 ( ik its trash af xDD ) and every time I lose a game I lose like 27 Lp but I get like 20 every win can this really be fix?xD
We all start somewhere, so don't worry about your rank, just focus on understanding the game better!
I just made a new video about this, go check it out if you'd like!
@@Tonirel Ok thx for your answer and yes sure I will go check your new vidéo rn !!
went from silver to plat and still the same dogshit mmr but yeah thanks for the video
I also pray that season 14 will fix mmr for everyone!
@@Tonirel the has a rigged matchmaking, riot are theives!
best thing to do is quit altogether, i checked porofessor and i got team mates with amazing stats when i was on a loss streak!
i was like wtf! the game is keeping me at 50% at times and other times its destroying me!
im diamond btw, but im quitting
JUust not true, I played 200 games in emerald 1 and still ahve this monster bad mmr, got +18 today, -29 usually. 56 or so winrate...so no it doens't become "suddenly" +35 -25
I have tried everything, taking a break, even when my last 20 games was 90%winrate and my last 60 was 75%+ winrate still losing -30lp and gaining +20lp
If you keep playing, maybe, just maybe, things might change. Then again, not everyone is prepared to spend 8 hours a day playing this game just to fix their mmr. Hopefully next season it'll be better, we can only hope
Hard disagree. Riots mmr system and ranking system is bad and honestly its player base should aim to hold them accountable for why its bad as opposed to acting like it's all a personal/mindset issue. You can have peak mindset, play your lane consistently well and not climb because of inters and feeders who are not punished or penalized for trolling in ranked.
This video like the dozens and dozens of others on this topic tries to get players to take self-accountability for why they can't climb as opposed to looking at the actual issue.
The system is broken has been broken for a decade. Stop feeding into it and wasting your time playing this game.
its eomm, its a riged match making, check what ls said on youtube!
the game rewards casuals and destroys competitiveness!
this is done to keep people play, they want to make sure that your winrate is fixed at 50%
its to buy skins and not actually help yourank up, best to quit league!
First of all, im aram player but sometimes i play ranked. I dont know if i have the best MMR or the worst , this season i have played only 20 games and im gold 2 but every time my enemies are high plat -emerald 2 , 15 games in a row i was the only gold in the game. Thats unfair , imagine you are diamond and playing against challenger, even if you ''deserve'' master+ , with riots system you will never achieve that . i play league since season 4 , im not new player, i have never got banned and i never int or something, i've seen a lot of friends that are so bad achieving plat-diamond+....
yeah... your mmr is way different than your actual rank when you start out the season, and so you even see smurf emerald accounts playing in Challenger games which is just crazy and should not exist in my opinion
I got +15 -29
I peaked plat for the first time and I got 200 games
Way to go! After they hopefully fix the mmr system next season, you'll get Diamond no problem!
@@Tonirel thank you! :) I play vs silver gold on my main (plat) and I play vs emerald on my Smurf ;-;
Thank you
No, no, thank YOU so much for watching!!!