How a SUPPORT got CHALLENGER with a 76% Win Rate
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Chapters:
0:00 - Introduction
1:58 - Level 2 Timing
3:38 - Brush Control
5:14 - Level 3 Timing
6:24 - Level 6 Timing
7:06 - Trading
8:16 - Recall Timings
8:51 - Tower Dive Tactic
9:37 - Roaming
9:53 - Push into Roam
10:52 - Advanced Roam
11:50 - My ADC SUCKS!
13:49 - Safe Roam Timing
14:19 - Action in Mid Lane
14:42 - Advanced Roam Trick
15:15 - Rift Herald Timer
16:05 - Return Gank
18:05 - When NOT to Roam
19:50 - Ward Setups for Laning Phase
22:28 - Mid to Late Game
22:42 - Lane Assignments
23:17 - Follow Your Jungler
24:12 - Overextended Side Laners
24:34 - Outer Tower Dives
25:23 - Baron Over Inhibitor
26:30 - Ward Setups for Mid to Late Game
28:00 - Outro
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What players do you want us to make a guide on next? Faker? Chovy? Agurin? Let us know below 👇👇👇👇👇
Beryl. More supports
Imma say Agurin because he's clearly got something cooking and jungle is the best role so why not appeal to that.
100% Agurin. he is the best soloq player, got rank 1 on multiple servers and has a very interesting playstyle.
Keria
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One of your best videos in a while, support players eating good with this one
This channel has a ton of filler content, but this video is actually great, every player should watch this vdieo not only supports
I would like to point out that in Low ELO the enemy support is far less likely to match your roam, and will just 1v2 your ADC who is far more likely to die because they are low ELO too. I would suggest to stray away from longer roams like heading top until you are in a higher rank and can reliably expect that situation.
what is low elo 😭 im in gold against emeralds
@@elainelikesboba low elo is anything below diamond 1
He covers this in his video. Just watch the video lmao.
I would like to point out that you just have to pick Bard and your adc will know that you will be gone for good so he'll pick ezreal or something with a dash to survive
@@lusi2512 low elo is everything below rank 1, some grandmasters are considered low elo too
I absolutely love Hex's guides. He scratches the itch for long-form content you don't get from the other SC authors (although I love them too! especially Hector!!)
I solely want a commentary hector channel.
Script authors?
15:10 "sets up a nice freeze right outside his tower for yone" and then yone proceeds to imediatelly clear it
hmm
I used to play support back in the days. While nowadays I tend to not play league as much as I do in the past, I still found these videos useful to gain an insight into pro-plays and breaking down tactics used by pro players
The roaming strat really does wonders. Ever since I adapted it to my playstyle, you really start to see better results. I'm also fortunate enough in this current split that my ADCs recognize what I'm doing and know at least to farm under tower.
This is why lately I don't quite buy into the complaint that playing support is boring because they are stuck in their lane and having to babysit their ADC. That's only partially true. Sure there are exceptions and you won't be free to roam all the time as jungler would but I watch people like Tilterella and wonder why I haven't tried this playstyle before.
As an overwatch mercy main, I'm already accustomed to the idea of "babysitting" and actually enjoy it quite a bit. Oddly I hate kids though...
@@zacharyjackson1829 what kind of weirdo hates kids
@@eingyi2500 the kind that hates dealing humans who are mostly incapable of being independent, clean, and quiet for longer than short periods of time
ya I'm aware they're young, but it doesn't change anything other than basic understanding. i don't demand that they change anymore than I would demand the sky to stop being blue, it just means that I wont accept them on my own terms in environments that I can control, like within my home.
7:25 Another reason this a great way to trade is that not only does he have more potions but he also has greater health regen than both his ADC but also the enemy ADC simply because his support item gives him more health regen.
This was an interesting video. Thank you very much for the content.
Cramming all the support videos into my head for a headache actually worked, I am now masters.. thank you skill capped.
This might be the best video you guys have ever released. So in depth, so much useful information and little to no filler. As someone who has been swapping from jungle to support this video is extremely useful. I already did a lot of similar things in this video, but having a better understanding WHY they work as well as learning new things like the 1-3 step brush control are game changers.
I do practically all this. I also do the transition from supporting my ADC to supporting my jungle most games as given in the tip at the 23:16 section of this video. What I find funny is I had Neace FLAME ME OUT for doing this in a game I was playing with him. He was playing Ezreal, he was ahead, he was in mid, and perfectly safe with full health, full mana, and with a outer full health mid tower. With that, I saw my jungle looking for a rotation on an out of position illaoi that just burned everything trying to kill our mid laner who had switched to botside. I move with the jungle, get the kill and saved bot tower. What did Neace do? Push out like a moron mid lane on his own and get popped by the enemy Twitch who was behind in levels and items until that point. All NEACE had to do was play safe for a minute and even he couldn't do that. Instead he flames me on his stream for not babysitting him the entire time. After which Neace literally threw a fit and inted the rest of the game causing a loss. He blamed me for that loss. Point being, even higher elo players don't understand how to supports should be played properly and throw massive fits if the support player doesn't play exactly as they expect them to.
Neace Gaming
Yeah, I was about to just type that you will see adc players all the way into diamond and above not respecting support roam timers and die solo for dumb reasons. In the end though, it's all about consistency I think. If you can't leave your adc alone then they probably aren't worth to play around as a wincon anyway, and good supports understand who is the team's wincon and work to support them.
Totally agree. The last sentence is a key. Many ADC players expects that you are going to play just as they want, extremely egocentric mentality. Sometimes I feel like they were jealous for supporting kills they don’t get.. 😂 They play 5v5 game thinking like it was just their game.
thats all part of the fun right? unexpected plays are the easiest way to get ahead or comeback
Neace is a human After all 😂
But you may call for a supp main to coach you i think, it's not because his coachings are the most expensive that his lessons are the best... You Saw it by yourself 🥶
Learning support is really just learning a lot of good macro it seems. While the solo lanes teach you about good trade timings and micro, the support will teach you how to outthink your enemy to win
My main question is, how do you adapt this to enchanter supports like Sona, Lulu, Nami? Or pseudo-ADC/damage carries like Brand or Senna?
roaming timers are the same, playstyle is different. some trading concepts are also applicable (don't leave your adc vulnerable, don't trade against a big minion wave, etc.)
exactly what i wanna know!
the reality is that those are not optimal picks, (you depend on your teammates) thats why if you look at the top 100 supports in challenger korea no one plays enchanters or mages, you may have a nicer time in lane but in 5 vs 5 tf, alistar, rakan, rell, braum, etc, have more value, (why?) because their kits can peel and engage, i've watch countless hours of pro lck supports vods, and your job with those champions, for example alistar is peel your adc with Q , W, if he doesn't need it (no enemie is in position to kill him), you engage. TLDR, if you wanna play support like pros and have weight in the game, play those champions, the game is way easier and fun, playing magees like lux, brand, etc, may be easier to win lane, but if the game goes to late game, or the enemy team is not diamond and actually knows a bit about the game, you are going to be in a HUGE disadvantage
i wish i could show this video to all of my teammates... this is so helpful not only for sup mains but honestly for all roles as it involves roaming, really liked the video ^^
Lifesaver! I've been on a, what, 12 game lose streak? AND he plays the same champs as me (Pyke, Rakan), it's like this guide was made for me!
Did you turn your luck around after watching this?
That's some really informative video !
Pls upload more of those for other roles.
Great job guys, this is genuinely one of the best videos on the channel.
Super helpful! I’ll be trying the Meta Support Champions this month to get a feel for who I should focus on during ranked gameplay, so this info. will surely help me with understanding top strategy for ‘em!
Thanks for this guide, very helpful and detailled. much love
I think that not only this is a guide for supports but also all the other roles and most importantly jungle, i am a jungle otp myself and this really helps alot (not right now tho because im silver IV lol) but later on i can understand what my support is doing right or is doing wrong, definetly worth the watch
This was actually very informative and I learned quite a lot!
Great video, but you can draw a triangle which the point is almost anywhere on the map
Man you answered almost all of the questions I was asking on what to do
This is support 101, like every single support player must play like this. Hell, i've been doing this for the last couple of year and got me to GM in my server. Great guide.
this is really useful. i suck at engage supps with my ping and still getting used to the game so i stick with enchanters, mainly sona. i need to know more tricks for them. itd be nice if yall make a video for enchanter supps too
Man took my first place
I may or may not have passive aggressively sent this to a friend I play with who is less challenger support and more...support challenged. Hi bud if you're reading this! I just want our lane to be easier!
More support vids on the website pls lol I can't get enough of them
THIS IS A LOT TO DIGEST tbh as a support main myself. I definitely learned a lot but I need to slowly digest it overtime..I guess you dont need to make another support video until the start of New season.
Common advice for learning new macro concepts is to take it one step at a time. Find a main, one or two support picks that work for you, master their fundamentals, then come back to this video and set step by step goals for yourself. Challenge yourself in a game going into thinking "no matter what happens, I'm going to make sure I contest the brushes and save my relic charges for Level 2 + 3 powerspike" nothing else matters. Just focus on that for a few games until you start doing it without thinking. THEN move on to going into games with the game plan of "no matter what happens, I'm going to make sure I get my wards down to maintain a solid line of vision on the enemy jungle" and then once that becomes natural instinct to you, then you can look for roam timings on mid when the wave is pushed out. then after that you can look for either roam timings top or for that 8 minute herald roam. Take it step by step and also try to cherrypick what to focus first based on your champion. Maintaining vision, fighting for brush control & roaming for herald are going to be far more useful if you're playing a mage or enchanter support than prioritizing roaming top or mid since more of your gameplan there will be centered around team fights & lane prio over skirmishes mid & top. Also as a general rule, many of the ranged champions in the game hover between 325-335 base move speed while many of the melee champions have between 335-345 which allows them to roam between lanes faster than a ranged champion. One of the biggest examples of that discrepancy is between Pantheon /w 345 move speed and Seraphine /w 325 move speed. So a Pantheon without boots will actually still move as fast as a Seraphine WITH boots.
@@xEmpress95but Seraphine has W. that's why enchanters are slower, they usually have an ability that increases speed.
@@ll-sz9fl Oh, I know, I was just giving a more extreme example between move speeds more for roaming. That 2.5 seconds of 351 move speed on Seraphine isn't going to get you up and down the river faster than the sustained 345 move speed of a Pantheon. So while you might prioritze roams as a Pantheon because he's good at that espeically early game with his point and click cc, you might prefer to focus more defensive concepts as a Seraphine such as warding & aiding your ADC in wave management & taking resets with your ADC rather than roaming so you can both be back out together to poke & maintain lane priority for Drake Control vs. Getting priority mid or top and playing for Herald Control. Perhaps a better example of that discrepancy would be someone like Rell who has 330 Base MS, but has the bonus MS from her E giving her 341 MS at Level 3 without boots further boosted to 360 over 3 seconds when using Full Tilt.
This is the kind of content we need ❤
76 percent rank5 is INNNNNSANE
Probably the best support video ever!
21:12 Watching & hearing this right after a way out of luck ranked game last night where I placed a Control Ward in Krugs' bush at MINUTE 6, and the enemy Support "casually" walked through there. And no, he had no vision on me from tribush or whatsoever.
That is actually good intel, guys! Act on it!!
Been seeing engager sps in the vid.. will this work with enchanters too? D:
What impressed me most this video was learning
"Holy shit the target dummies can level up?"
Thanks for your video
i'm not sure how you release a video explaining how to 90% wr to emerald with little effort. God tier video.
in the rakan vid holding the wave for yone, did yone just push the wave and make it benefical for jayce ?
"HOW MY DRUNKEN UNCLE BEATED ME WITH THE BELT ALL DAY AND NIGHT 76% Win Rate"
Yet another banger, not even a banger... a masterpiece.
Best support video ever!
Instructions unclear. Reported for stealing my jungler’s cs
classic level 2, even in emerald. i walk up into enemies and the adc instead engages so we take a fight in their wave lvl 1 -.-
In case anyone is interested in the summoner name Moham, in Korean it is 뭐함, roughly translating to. "what are you doing?", or depending on the situation, "wtf you doing" xD
Gotta watch this shit before I play rank in wildrift
on my way to GM
Support is lowkey one of the most impactful roles
This video is amazing.
Unfortunatelly there is a lot of things you can't apply on Low Elo unless your adc is a duo.
Because being peel/tank support and your adc don't know how to behave or how to deal with enemies you will be just a ward in the lane.
Best thing you can do as support low elo is picking a mage support until plat/low dia, Because there is where adcs start to recognize things like "if i last hit i can get more gold" or "Oh , i'm caitlyn and i have a leona, if we engage on mf and milio we can win"
I disagree. If you yourself are good on engage Tank Supports Stick with them. Ive run this gauntlet multiple times with Naut/Alistar, hitting 60-70% winrates. Depending on the amount of griefers/afks and my Personal Form at the Time. This is solo however Duo gets even easier.
Most Ppl in that low of an elo have no Knowledge of your basedmg and die to you or the Wave. The Rest is then on you to snowball the Game out of Control.
this is great!
best guide i've ever seen
Beautiful video
Pick a hypercarry "support" and harass the enemy lane so hard that you always get prio and just win lol
I call it midlane botlane. We don't even ADC anymore it's Vex Leblanc duos now to just screw with 'em and we win like 70% of the time
Damn amazing video very informative I learned so much and I'm a diamond supp.
Thank you so much.
in 4 mins i already learned a lot more about Korean challenger level wave control than anyone else...
A video like this for jungle 🫶🏽
At 20:35 He somehow has a sweeper and trinket ward????
was that a adc cho'gath
Why did you tell us in the adc macro guide to swap to toplane and then around minute 20 swap to mid but here we should already swap to mid at minute 14?
Amazing guide! I had to watch it at 0.75 speed because of the amount of information. But super helpful nonetheless
3 minutes in and i already know why i don't climb... there is so much subtle things that gives you an advantage :O
do you still follow these roam timings when playing enchanters or mage supports?
Personally I do, I think it is applicable for any support. Even as a Soraka, I try to go mid even for just an emergency heal for the mid laner or deep vision. I buy swifties everytime instead of Lucidity Boots to get around faster (movement speed on Soraka is OP) but even with the standard boots for enchanters, if your timing is good it is definitely possible.
yes, playstyle differs but the roaming concepts are applicable
great video
Support has so much influence now. I was hardstuck silver for like 4 years. Then I stopped playing ranked and would just aram on the weekends with friends. Started playing ranked again a month ago for some reason, and easily climbed from bronze 3 to gold 2 playing support only lol. I think my macro in mid lane was just awful. But with support i know my job. Dragon coming up? Go put wards all around it where the enemies would come from. For me, its all about vision. It's all been with anivia support too lol.
My only gripe with this guide is the buying two control wards everytime you can afford them when going back to base. It's 150 gold everytime which can quickly add up
And if 1 in 6 of those wards leads to a kill its worth it. I say 6 because generally its 300 gold + they lose 150 ish in gold+xp. It can easily be even better than that depending on how much they lose while dead. As an engage support it is super easy to get that level of success from vision denial.
@@TurkeyMeat if they are properly used, sure, but, more often than not, they are placed in a bad place and/or with terrible timing (vision provided does absolutely nothing or the ward is destroyed in a couple seconds without earning anything from it)
Edit: typo
@@shuraizo2877 sure but if you are actually trying to improve you should watch where high elo people put them and practice it every game, which could see results immediately
@@shuraizo2877 the video also suggested good places to place them and how to use the vision
although item completion is indeed more important
also if u placed ur control wards well u wouldn't need to buy 2 every base, it only happens in his case because its a Challenger game and vision denial and control is huge and wards are being actively searched and destroyed.
i probably already do 80% of this 😭😭 hopefully this video makes up for the missing 20%
also does he skip playing Enchanters entirely? Champions with decent roam potential demand you use this agency to create tempo
What about this season? Now that support item is changed how do you behave with the lvl2 push? The first point of the video
Hey, I joined the team yesterday but for some reason I can't login into my account from my phone, only my PC, what can be done about this?
I always thought Midbeast is Australian, but I guess he was Mexican all along.
Well now I have no excuses lol
12:14 I totally not rely on that weak minded ADC, the same I can't say for the enemy one for carrying the game
Living the dream in a land of nightmares
Me: *Watch the video* that makes sense, I will try that
at the game: What i was supposed to do again?
Besides from Alistar, Rakan, Rell and Pyke (neither of them are my strong champs lol) which support can really use all of this knowledge? I used to play a lot of Thresh and Leona so maybe they're an option? Now I was playing mostly enchanters but I'm not entirely sure how to aply this to enchanters
Mao, Leona, Blitz, Naut, Bard. Thresh is an outdated pick, Naut, Blitz or Ali are way more useful
I'm a support main. And this video gave me some great advice. I'm in the lowest rank possible, cuz I suck at the game. But I was wondering, what supports has the best roam potential? I imagine it's like Rell, Leona, Thresh, the ones that has a high engage potential? My main supports are Janna, Soraka, Lulu. Should I still be roaming as shown in the video?
Bard, literally designed to roam
Good vid
No way a korean challanger is falling for a lvl 2 suprise. I have gold players in NA walk away when they know they are going to lose the lvl 2
this aren't all challenger games, these are his climbing games
also, level 3 all in it's what the video mostly focuses about
in bronze .. my elo xD ... @3:00 the enemy with the jungler will just ignore the BIG wave and kill us both .. and it works even if we try to run for it or fight while running .. happens in all my games xD
20:28 does he have his support item upgraded 9 minutes into the game at lvl 6? he keeps saying trinket ward but his trinket was a sweeper. when do high elo supports usually get their first ward item upgrade?
I'm gold and it's pretty normal to upgrade my support item anywhere between 7 to 9 minutes if nothing goes incredibly wrong for me.
@@batmabel gold adc here and I’ve seen that completed message in the chat (first upgrade) as late as 17 minutes T_T
@@batmabel good to know tho! Ty
As a support main I wish
im a master 250lp support main , and ill tell you this video is GOOD ! take notes !
bro has a 76% winrate in challenger and i have a sub-50% winrate in bronze
Question about the Bush control , I've "Completed" step 3 , but the enemy nautilus or thresh all ins me and my ADC farms , what am I supposed to do? its important to highlight scenarios where you're supposed to not pressure from places that your ADC , god forbid , doesn't wanna do anything for but farm.
If you're in too low of a rank where most ADCs afk farm and don't know what right clicking the enemy is, only go for safer poke and look for more opportunities to roam. Babysitting an ADC that won't do anything with a lead is just a waste, so you'll want to try and help lanes that might be able to carry if ahead. This doesn't mean leave the ADC alone all the time, just that any safe time to roam you may want to take.
@@GambitsEnd Great advice! I do roam even when my ADC is ahead due to the fact that Grubs are just so OP , but it's mostly for that laning phase before level 4-5 , where I establish control of the 3rd bush but can't do anything because my ADC doesn't move forward for pressure , and then I forfeit control
I would love to see an enchanter getting this wr. The engagers are always more used than enchanters and I h8 it. When are we gonna see a soraka or sona getting this wr?
Agurin was here ❤
meanwhile my bronze adc is over there preventing me from doing ABSULATELY ANYTHING iin the laning phase andmy very good midlaner preventing me from roaming since everytime I come for roam THEY DO SHIT
8:28 Not bad. But I don't recommend purchasing double control wards if you're not playing in Masters+. Item completion is more valuable. Your NA sub Gold team won't use the knowledge vision provides properly to make good decisions.
It's just funny to see an enchanter not have a mythic at 15 minutes since they're trying to copy pro play and have bought 10-15 (750-1250g worth of) control wards that get cleared in under 15 seconds.
agreed but i play a bunch of enchanters i usually buy 2 and sit on one for a long time for item completion cause i use my pink ward as a anti dive pink ward so it lives for a long time. After my mythic its buying 2 pinks every recall, i average about 10 pinks a game
Mythic is more important, it's a power spike, yes, mostly in low elo. Totally agree.
disagree entirely. Unless you are bronze vision will always be used by your teammates whether you realize it or not. My winrate shot up after buying 2 control wards at every back because we have perma vision control and countltess ganks dodged, key skillshots hit or dodged, or recalls canceled each and every game from superior warding. If you use your extra control effectively it will easily pay for itself is the point.
I highly suggest nit buying that many control wards
25:00 Min.: IF you play a TANK support yes. But NOT with a mage support. We mage supports be squishy as hell. I not realy often dive. Sometimes yes but this is a more rare case ^^
I think you are even legally required to leave your Cho'Gath ADC as soon as possible. Anything else is just straight up inting.
Got half way through and decided to stick to playing arams
9:07 that adc is ballsy (or stupid) to ignore that fulllife blitzcrank
in high elo, people kinda sort of know what they doing, they kinda know how every champs work, how much damage they do, they can win trade or not, they farm they do meaningful stuff. Low elo, they just feed, just who is luckier to win tho.
the funny thing for me is i finished this vid, went into a game and was able to implement 995 of it, it was the most scripted game i've had in a long time
is skill-capped subscription really that good as described?
isnt 14:21 the same as 18:21, can someone explain the difference?
Does he never stay to get plates? Plates is what stops me from roaming alot of times
0:15 why is midbeast there?
i just started the video and the very first point already dont work anymore like that because the support items is already different now and while i write this riot will probably change the whole game again
What kills me is the thumbnail is clearly targeted for seraphine mains
yeah, and we seraphine mains know that support isn't her best winrate role anyway...