How teens are getting into biotech without a college degree
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
- No college degree? Massachusetts biotech companies increasingly are dropping “B.A. required” for entry level jobs and creating a pathway for young people to acquire in-demand skills without earning a college degree. Here's how two Boston-area high school graduates moved from service industry jobs into life sciences labs without going to college or taking on college debt.
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Timestamps:
00:00 How to go from high school to a career in biotech
00:10 Why Ella decided not to go to college
00:36 Ella's parents talk college debt
00:50 Where Ella is learning to be a lab tech
01:00 Why Massachusetts needs a life science workforce
01:16 Do you need an advanced degree to get work in a lab?
01:46 Why Brady Barry decided not to go to college
02:14 What work experience did Ella and Brady have?
02:38 Why you shouldn't need the college degree
3:08 Skills not degrees
3:57 Paid internships after training
4:34 How the thinking has changed about who's qualified to be in a lab
This video is about two Boston-area high school graduates who moved from service industry jobs into biotech careers without going to college.
Have you considered skipping college ?
I wish we could but we’re stuck with this college crap. This stigma still exists. I’m also one of those where we don’t know what to do and then we’re stuck with money. Paying and repaying. Especially if you’re a part of the culture in Asia. Both in East and South Asia. Abolish college.
I had to but now I’m in my early 30’s 😕 that’s why I was asking🤞
So is it only for teens post high school?
The age range is listed as 18-30, but worth connecting with them even if you are outside the range: gmgi.org/education/
Pretty much
It's funny to see that the USA is now also realizing that it doesn't make sense to send every lab technician to college for a lot of money, because the most important part of the training happens in the lab. Germany trains up to 10,000 lab technicians every year outside of college. After completing their training, they are highly qualified, in high demand by companies, and well paid.
The main problem is that most post-secondary institutions are financially predatory, stretching out “education” for as long as possible to wring students for every last penny
No way!!🥲
what are the programs called? Ive heard of some..
They won't be well-paid here. Uneducated employees are always paid less in these jobs because compensation is set by the market. The more who go down this path, the less they will all be paid. And the companies are counting on that.
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The harsh fact is majority of employers (even in biotech), treat non-college staff as test tube washers. There are also many graduate staff that bully non-college staff as lower life-forms. Hope videos like these help change this backward mindset!
This is fact even in the business world
Degrees dont matter. Critical reasoning does.
*some one who has a degree*
Absolutely. I work in a different industry but I have found the ones without college degrees more than make up for it, with experience and good work ethic
I’ve worked for startups and established industry while working on and after my bachelor’s degree. I’ve never seen a cGMP lab hire anyone for any position of lab work that wasn’t at least 2 years into their bachelor’s or already earned their associate’s degree. No one without at least a bachelor’s and 2 years research experience was in a lab tech position. I was able to convince one of the companies to hire people with associate’s degrees and a year of lab experience, but that company was bought by Charles River. I don’t know if they changed things back.
The biggest issue is the company lowers starting pay for all lab techs and tries to get rid of lab techs hired under the previous requirements.
@@SD-vy7gj it just shows how backwards america is
I’m on that list of people who wish this happen 10 years ago. But It’s refreshing seeing the new generation stepping on the plate.
😅 Same
Be glad you think that way. Some ppl feel envious towards things as such
Right we love to see it🙌I can’t wait to tell my little bros about this. But like, I’m 28 so where the heck was this when I was 18?!😅Aaand this is why I always say I should’ve been born circa 2001-2004
Kinda mystified on how i received a degree applied to hundreds of positions 11 years ago after getting a biology degree and no one would hire me b/c i didnt have experience?!? I couldnt even get a entry level job. But now they want high school students? Very happy for them and glad things are changing. However i cant help but feel like this is a slap in the face to those of us that were denied an opportunity at every turn with a degree.
I feel like this is some kind of conspiracy. What is the industry trying to get around by doing this? Something is very strange about a huge pivot like this.
(Full disclosure: I'm 47 years old and pretty chuffed that I couldn't get a job like this out of high school.)
@@JohnFarmer-yt8cfPerhaps the companies plan on paying these high school kids a low wage with the excuse that they don't have a degree. They get the labor they want at a discount.
I'm guessing the immigration crackdowns from a few years back are finally showing as a massive shortage of workers. They either need to lower qualifications OR RAISE WAGES. (So of course they'd rather...)
Did your program not require an internship? Choosing the educational program is important. Unfortunately, most high school students don’t know what to look for. It doesn’t have to be an Ivy League education, but you still need a program that goes beyond the textbook.
@@bonaventura1519No they don’t do an internship for biology
This is such an important story. We need more employers to evaluate employees based on their analytical abilities and willingness to learn and to hire from high school!
Anyone with business and half a brain will filter out based on certifications that prove that the candidates can do the job/skills they say they do.
Unregulated education / self-taught produces incompetent and unaware "professionals"/candidates with gaps in fundamental skills or strong Dunning-Kugger overestimation.
You want the hiring process to be easier and efficient, otherwise you will end up with hiring behind closed doors. Especially for start-ups, small and medium companies.
If you believe otherwise, you have not seen the individuals/candidates that are on the market!
@@JennaHasm Well, gold or not, it's a digging process for different business owner.
@@JennaHasm I understand your point but there are many incompetents holding degree too!
@zealousprogrammer4539
The thing is that business owners need to give new hires a chance to know what they need to learn, then little by little they will fill these gaps.
It's not about regulated education or unregulated. The video mentioned that these young guys didn't has the skills but they learned.
Isolating education from work caused a wasteful expensive education and businesses that are struggling to find the right person to the job.
Work should come first than education and training on the job. This way they can save time and money and even make a little money as they are working. This is how people used to learn before this era where every job has a certificate to obtain.
@@JennaHasm But that's discrimination and classism since only those with money and family support can afford that type of debt-based education. And don't cry "but scholarships." If you're a white male you're out of luck.
We need to level the playing field with new approaches to hiring and training. Think outside of your heavily indoctrinated box. Your system is broken.
When I was graduating from college 11 years ago , there were a plethora of biology students who did not know where to apply for a jobs who had just earned degree from a top tier university. Maybe these companies are not reaching out to the right places to find people. There are a plethora of biology Majors and chemistry majors who were desperate for jobs who were never reached out to who don’t even know that these companies are desperate to find people… I’m just shaking my head and how sad it was, but I’m glad that these young students are finding a way into the industry.
The irony here, being that companies are seeking people with "experience" over "certification". It is generally hard to meet that experience qualification at a 4 year institution or even with graduate school accreditation. The industry ironically shoots itself in the foot with the consistent change in expectations. Internship partnerships should be mandatory in today's colleges to help the marketability of students.
And to get out of a prestigious uni with a bachelor's and all the jobs wanted certifications that required another 2 years of training. T^T
I don’t think they want people with 4 year degrees. They would have to pay them more and give them options for advancement. Notice how often the video says “entry level.” You might advance without a degree but the likelihood is that you are just replaceable and disposable employment. Cheap labor. Turning the laboratory into the equivalent of a retail position.
The problem is that these companies are paying$10 -12 per hour a salary that's so low that no Biology major graduate will want to take it.
On the one hand, it's good to push back against the rampant credentialism in the industry. But the real reason employers are willing to take these trainees on is that they'll take a much lower wage than an aspiring physician/PhD candidate and they'll stay in the job longer. A 20yo who has only done food service has a very skewed idea of what a living wage is.
And they then get the skills and experience that will give them that higher wage later. Its good.
@@vectoralphaSec but is their future wage comparable to someone with a degree?... Having a degree is highly correlated with higher earnings.
@@p0ison1vyThe future of economies is scaling back on the unsustainable growth required by unfettered capitalism. Natural resources are being depleted at unnatural rates and a lot of pollution is being produced just to refine the ores that will eventually make our smartphones and computers.
The future is sustainable industries requiring “maintenance operators,” not men in suits wanting to control our sperms and eggs.
@@FiredAndIced ...That has nothing to do with my question...
@@p0ison1vyI think those who do will be an exception, not a steady growth tbh. 🤷♂️
What people don't see is, those without degree will be kept at entry jobs until they go for degrees. Some companies will never hire managers candidates who are not from certain universities. So right now this works for high school students who do not know what to do yet, but they will need degrees eventually.
But if these employees decide to go back for degrees, a lot of employers might help cover their degrees in order to retain them as employees. A lot of large employers currently help employers cover their masters.
This pathway is kinda better, it’s like going in to the universe first, go for a free trial. Explore and learn real life stuff, which boosts inspiration for the self and piques curiosity, adapts to real work experience, and after that gets a checkpoint (degree) to go to the real world. While on free trial, learning the degree’s curriculum and related subjects also helps in the future.
@ChiCityLady Large employers aren't necessarily providing the internships though, start-ups and universities are the ones mentioned.
ok boomer
@@RyouStillThere that person's not wrong?? Those without a degree will just stay at entry levels
My 2-cents is that I agree that the population of unskilled young workers is a cause of concern, but I don't agree that these trade schools are the best way to fix it because they only prepare students for entry-level jobs. Instead, colleges should diversify their student body to include people who are older than 22. The current branding of college as not only education but also socialization for older teenagers can create a dynamic where it feels very awkward to go if you're older than them
Agree. I went "back" to school and started a new undergrad program when I was 22. Even at that age- the age most undergrads are when they graduate, and even that small age gap made socialization awkward. Four years of age difference is a long time when you're 18-22. I had few friends- two of my closest were also students who were a bit older.
I really think universities are out of their depth. I really think companies, such as Pfizer, should run technical schools and directly train their work force. Universities have no clue whether what they’re teaching is useful and frankly, I don’t think they care…
Even more importantly, why does US has so much student debt?
Agreed. You’re basically trading
temporary financial freedom for a few years in college which will likely guarantee you a higher position pay and salary.
trade schools are a scam because you think you hit the jackpot pot when it only guarantees the bottom part of the totem.
I find that this is a phenomenon I only read in the internet.and never experience in my country. Undergraduate studies are not branded as a young people thing in my country and it's absolutely normal for a 40, even 60 year old to be in ana undergraduate programme. We all have friend groups based on our ages of course. But it's well understood that education is ageless. People with graduate degrees in other fields randomly decide to study a new field at undergraduate level and nobody finds it odd. Or people with diplomas (I guess that's what Americans call community colleges degrees) decide to upgrade and it's totally celebrated. They're loved because they can help newbies with concepts that they already know from their current level of competence.
That mentality should certainly definitely be deconstructed because it doesn't even fundamentally make sense. Everyone should feel loved and welcome. I'm just 20 and orthodox though, so I think I'll ask older people about this to see whether I'm speaking inacurrately from an observer's point of view, though I really doubt it.
the key take away is “entry level job” - everything else is reserved for those with an education.
Tbh I feel that these students are very underprepared
But then they also have work experience from the entry level jobs to back up their skills
@@arishakavi8207work experience compliments education- not the other way around.
They will be “in” the industry but this severely limits their ability to advance in their careers
@@arishakavi8207 work experience compliments education- not the other way around
@@arishakavi8207 But would they ever be able to advance past entry or mid level jobs? I know many first year undergraduates who work in labs with minimal training, it's not that hard and involves a lot of route tasks. But all of them are studying so that when they graduate they can apply their skills towards conducting research. It's the degree that's teaching the background knowledge necessary to fully understand and apply that information.
Without a degree you can't advance in your career unfortunately. So these trainees will forever be stuck at the bottom
Yup, this is called Trade Schooling, where apprentices learn under masters in actual working conditions, so they get more than theory. This is what more professions need to do, honestly, cus much of what college and university offers was never meant to be job prep. And if you do go to college, often all you really need is an Associate degree cus that'll get you entry-level skills. Requiring applicants to have a Bachelor's doesn't guarantee you get a good worker.
Finally, someone who gets it!!! 👏 So sick of all the minions commenting "But college is necessary to be able to move up in a career." That's not how things used to be and it doesn't need to stay that way!
There is a difference between how you think the market should work, and how the market actually works. Yes a bachelor degree, does not guarantee that you are a good worker, but that is what most employers want, and if you're looking for a job then you do what they want, not what you think they should want
@@Dave_of_Mordor ok boomer. I do what I want.
@@gaynzz6841 and you're free to be unemployed
theories are fundamental and require mental work. Anyone can do a lab skill.
Best way to do it with no scholarships, grants and tuition waivers at their disposal. Get a skillset first, work and everything after.
as a college dropout (couldnt continue my biotech studies bc of war and mental health) this info has made my day. Dropping out was like the end of the world to me since from 8th grade i have dreamt of a biotech career. Knowing that there is a shift like this in the market brings me hope for the future.
thanks for sharing this! check your local area to see if there are programs like this, sometimes offered through non profits or local community colleges
I'm assuming based on your post that you're suffering from PTSD. I hope you have a good therapist who can help you you heal with cognitive behavioral therapy. I wish you all the success with accomplishing your dreams. 😊
I wish these programs would have existed 20 years ago! I'd have skipped college and the tens of thousands of dollars of debt I now have.
I think all the theoretical knowledge one gets from a degree really helps you understand the fundamentals as to why you do what you do in the lab. This job doesn’t have much mobility similar to how patient care techs, medical assistants, scribes, phlebotomists, you name it, will never go past entry level healthcare worker.
Edit: a medical assistant may know how to draw blood, and can read the lab results to know what’s positive or negative, but they will never know the depth of information a clinical laboratory scientist knows to interpret results from their theoretical knowledge they gained from their MLS degree.
This is true! But the thing is that labs these days simply need more hands, more people who know how to perform the actions. College is for learning theory, which is great! I love theory! We need the theoretical scientists! But people have a limited amount of time and energy and sometimes studying theoretical science comes at the cost of having the lab skills, so we need both of them to work hand-in-hand.
@@merrymintmartian8596 oh and I don’t doubt it’s a good stepping stone! But I think with the program alone, there isn’t much career progression besides raises. I’m sure it can really change people’s lives and give them a path but it would suck to advertise it as some end all be all career and then they end up disappointed with not much room for growth.
You're wrong. It is possible to learn all that without spending tens to hundreds of thousands on a university degree. Everything that you learn in university, can be learned from publicly available books and other resources. They can be trained over time to understand those things as well, while they are working.
ok boomer
@merrymintmartian8596 its not make believe theoretical physics, microbiology/biology majors actually learn skills.
The world is way too damn unfair... I wish I had this kind of opportunities when I was younger. I'm highly skilled, but I was never able to finish college because I lacked financial support. I was studying medicine and even ended up working in a molecular biology lab doing cancer research because a professor gave me the opportunity while I was studying but everything ended when I had to drop my studies. Now I'm older and my life is financially ruined and there is not much I can do about it by myself. I'm glad others are having better opportunities tho.
Holding an master's in Biotechnology.. working in that mol bio lab is my dream!! That too on cancer research!! Wow!!
you should have taken loans. that isnt really an excuse.
@@smallestcat I'm not from the US. English isn't even my first language. You don't know what was my actual situation at that time. Loans where not an option back then because where I live they only cover a fraction of the costs and medicine was and still is the most expensive career so even with loans it was still out of my reach to continue it without financial support.
Just came across this RUclips channel and clicked to see this is their most recent video from hours ago. Exactly what people like me at this age need.
Happy to hear @ayadali9112 ! Please share with anyone else you think might need this info.
I agree. Young people need to be encouraged. They're being inundated with negative messages on social media when it comes to the job market. They need to see young people thriving in the workplace.
Please be sure to read the comments section well. While there is truth to what the video says, there is a LOT that it leaves unsaid. Such as the downsides of not having what a higher education can provide. Lower pay. Limited advancement opportunities. Disposable workforce.
@@bonaventura1519 All of those negatives are going away. The jig is pretty much up when it comes to college. In America academia has long been used to put paywalls around good jobs and prevent certain "undesirables" from upward social mobility. No more. It's taken a long time but the walls are being torn down.
My brother and I both did this. At the time our high school was the only one in the country with a biotech program that got you a certificate so you could work in the lab. If she wants to make real money, she’ll have to go back to school anyway. Even those with a bachelors or masters degree are making 50k-60k which is not nearly enough for the level of knowledge you need. He never used his and is an electrician and I decided to go to college early and now i’m going to medical school. She’s downing starbucks but they will pay for your college completely.
Love this so much. Finally, people with a passion for the industry shouldn't be hindered by a college degree. As long as thorough, safety based training is provided as well.
you’ll still be hindered because you can really only work either as an entry level tech without any chance of working in a higher position in research OR pivot to a business role eg management in the company which has nothing to do with science
@@ila9063The paper ceiling is crumbling. And there's a thing called on the job training and promoting from within that need to make a comeback.
@@SENSEFYup!
It's all fun and games until you need someone with a degree to help you. Work with you, or teach your kids. You benefit from people having a degree everyday and people without one. If enough people say no to college, that's less than everything. Even how food works for someone who went to college. College might not be for everyone, but EDUCATION is.
I grew up as a child of immigrants, being a first-generation American and acting in segregation. They didn't fight to get an education for nothing. I can't recommend that people throw that away, nor can I recommend it. No one in this video is talking about anyone black or brown or a minority who said, "Hmm, college isn't for me." It's just, "Oh, I don't wanna go to school. "
No one in poor communies is gonna say " I don't want to go to college. It's a waste of time" when that's their BEST ESCAPE. They say "I can't afford college but how can get into any kind of trade or degree or certification? I must do this. My future depends on me"
And if you say college/high education is too expensive and you'll never even TRY to finish . I'm willing to bet you have some what of a comfortable life and ARE NOT an immigrant or a child of immigrants.
I grew up as a child of immigrants - should be paraphrase as my family and I have an unhealthy obsession with degree and college and it's rooted deep in your mind so you can't never understand people with different mindset.
@@strawberryblender exactly. They also completely ignore the rise of college tuition cost.
College does not equal good educqtion. Most of it is academia specific and not actually useful in the job you think youll work after college. College is a good place for networking though as you have larger set of peers to network with but thats it. I dont think college adds the same value as it once did but then again to each their own.
Your resumé can get forward with a referal more likely than going for college placements
@@robinfr93then the HR lady laughs at your resume and tosses it because you're underqualified.
@@smallestcatYou must be from the south, the skills these kids are learning are extremely sought after to the point where biotech both in industry and academia hire them just to teach MD/phD students that are not competent in technical lab skills.
I love the story but this idea and model should be the norm everywhere (in most jobs at least). Everyone should be given the right to learn current new skills and learn the theoretical.
I see a lot of comments concerned as to whether these ppl will be able to advance past entry level jobs without the real degree, but personally I think they really have a shot. They might even be _more prepared_ than some students with a degree actually. As someone finishing my 3rd year of college, we learn lab techniques in passing and some to mastery, but the majority not so much. And most of the “important theoretical science” u learn doesn’t actually stay in ur head long term. Like from the year of Ochem I took, I still have that base knowledge of reaction steps and workings, but out of the hundreds of specific reactions we were made to memorize, I don’t think I even remember half of them a year later 😂 I feel like that year of hardcore studying could’ve been cut in half and supplemented with more practical training tbh.
in biotech? Not a chance unless they get a PhD.
these kids have over 600 more hours of hands-on lab experience than the average MD or even phD students. They get sent off to top biotech companies in Boston and surrounding areas, usually they’re the ones training incoming college students on what to do in the lab setting
@@RyouStillThere damn. and ofcourse America is the only country where it exists.
At the dairy processing plant I worked at they were pushing to hire only people with degrees for quality assurance lab tech but of course all the recent graduates didn't want to stay long because the pay was too low and they had to pay their loans. The job is very routine and beginner lab work so doesn't require a 4yr degree but it's what the company wanted. The QA manager job does require a degree though and that makes more sense because they have to have a deeper understanding of the processes and deal with recalls and troubleshooting and dealing with government.
In the US you need a college degree for biotech? Here in Germany, in pretty much all companies the people working in a lab have an apprenticeship, not a university degree. The people in these companies with a university degree barely see a lab from the inside. They do other work. In research, lab work is usually done by degree holders, but that's it.
and that's regardless of the country. Europe is a pharma hub. And real work is always done by PhDs.
Undergrads and non degree guys may be just good for grunt work in lab.
While I definitely love that these teens can find professional careers without college the truth is that a lot of the reasons why people now hire people without college degrees is because it allows them to pay a lower wage and get less benefits if they even get any at all, you shouldn’t have to do college to get into lucrative professional work, 99.99% of the time though this leads to companies paying people less and the bargaining power you also lack without a college degree gives less room for salary growth
Tbh no college degrees do start 3 years earlier at least and companies do value expirence relevant so the ability to negotiate salaries go further imo than someone who just got out of college
This video made me feel so unfair that this teenager is working as lab TRAINEE and here in India so many people have Graduate and post-graduation degree in SCIENCE but still not getting job as Project Assistant, lab trainees and Junior chemist in Reserach institute and in company
it isnt unfair- their country is helping them n yours is not. so everyone in yours is in the same situation as you.
interesting, but somehow I think there is a dark side of all these. It looks like they are looking for ways to get people who can do qualyfiied work for a fraction of the salary they should pay to a person with a degree. Saving money to get more profits ¿is there anything else in corps' minds?
The reason this is happening is because there is a shortage of lab techs because the PhD's are on strike and do not want to work for minimum wage.
This is also a show/bubble. The companies benefit from a happy local population regardless of if it’s profitable. Those biotech companies are flushed temporarily with Covid money that was a mandated tax transfer only to result in the most casualties in the world. Rich doctors sick people.
I LOVED ❤ this story. I’m from Gloucester- what an amazing resource for smart young adults who choose a different path and different timeline.
why do you pronounce it weird like Gloster?
That’s so cool!! Omg. I’m aware of the route of not taking college, but it’s so scary and stigmatizing. Seeing that people are succeeding and can get jobs without going to college is so moralizing!! Thank you for making this video ❤
100% this is a bad idea. Yes, molecular biology techniques are easy to learn. Yes, the underlying science is fairly easy to understand. The issue is that if you want to compete in the life science market you need an advanced degree due to the saturation of the job market. This will be a huge problem as it will incentivize employers to pay less and increase competition among lab workers for already lower paying jobs. This is a move that only helps big companies find cheap workers.
its a bad idea like you said but the idea isn't to get an advanced degree, the point is to walk away from the industry
Why only Massachusetts?? Why the hell is there not other programs like this everywhere else? What's so special about Massachusetts that others can't do it???
Because Boston area is the Mecca of biotech
Hi! Thanks for watching. We’re a Boston-based news organization so we focus on what is happening in our area.
Just an amazing feature about an important topic about the hidden talents in the labor market!
Enlightening video!
I mean, it's basically a trade school for biotech.
So they teach them and trained them how to use equipment, how to use a pipette, how to mix solutions. A lot of procedures are automated in biotech and you probably need an operator for all the machines. Fair enough if someone is happy with this. Really. But they are the workers of the industry. If a person wants to have a deep understanding of science , education in the field is necessary.
Are they paying them a livable wage or exploiting them since they don’t have a college degree?
Starting salaries for lab techs can average $25/hour with benefits. For more info with links to organizations, you can read the full story: www.wgbh.org/news/local/2024-05-21/how-to-get-a-job-in-biotech-without-going-to-college
Its not McDonald's 😂😂😂😂
I love this story. My sons and I both are in this boat. We need more of this thinking. So many people are overlooked for nothing.
I like her style but omg I can’t imagine dressing up like that every day. So much work.
I’m so happy for them, finding a debt free alternative to college.
I have a BME degree but no jobs. I'm either overqualified or under qualified.
This is a joke
its a technician and not scientist. a technicians can run all the complex machines and good results. but a scientist know what the results mean and specially how the results are meaningful. these two things are completely different. a scientist can perform highly important experiments without even touching the equipment, just be deciding the hypothesis, getting the specific samples, processing the samples with these with the help "biotech experts without college degree". but only him know what the result means in a given scenario. a master's degree in research is very very important to make you a scientist mind. in PhD this mind is tested. otherwise you can teach a monkey to centrifuge at what speed and G, but is would not decipher that simple PCV change in blood is what.
After going through college and job training in both biology and chemistry, i have to say technicians who dont learn how things work dont know why the results are the way they are. They cant give a doctor a heads up something else is going on here. They are just machines. Technically machines will replace them too.
Great work ❤
Honesty, this is what the US needed because the degree bubble is popping hard, so many ending up with debt to get the same job they basically would have gotten without the degree or worse not even hired because over qualified
I had an amazing public school science education and was fully prepared for this kind of work out of highschool, but a B.S. was required for even the lowest jobs, and often a master's plus experience. I got an incredible college education as well, but employers are really not looking at hiring highly educated scientists any more. It's great that newbies can get into the field this way, but there is a definte need for the experience and education that scientists like me have, especially in biosciences. I worry this is about companies saving money, and risking safety/accuracy in exchange. There should be all levels of scientists working within these industries for proper balance. I have a teen and find the average highschooler has zero chemistry knowledge...its shocking.
I love it. We need people with actual experience not just book knowledge. She is on the right path.🎉🎉❤❤
Does it take a college degree to transfer liquid media or do gel electrophoresis? Not necessarily. However, when working with millions of dollars worth of equipment and collecting data that is vital to rigorous conclusions in research, then no high school grad is going to be a good candidate for hire.
College has killed creativity, so many bright minds who just can’t afford it. Some may be more qualified than the people who can afford college.
Great story!! What amazing young people!
This is splendid.
So... essentially the apprenticeship programs for jobs are back? This used to be a thing back in the day. If you want to become a doctor, you apprentice under a doctor and do self-studying.
And if you want to improve more, you go to university.
Like... this is how it was back in the day. You work, then go to school, then get a better job.
not me seeing this after a year into my chemistry degree...
I think the degree will give you an advantage. This video emphasized that they are being trained for an entry-level job, and I assume that only people with an education would be able to move up the ranks in biotech research
Same
same but with psychology. my parents wouldnt let me to not.
The is good, for example someone can lean programming as self-taught but a proven PHD in Computer Science give a Huge advantage you know thing under the hood.
@@bluedaffodil2023 No. The same people with the degree will be qualified for the same entry level jobs. Its just this is a direct route that skips all the general education courses that college typically forces you to pay for. And you would be able to move up the ranks regardless of whether you have a traditional degree of do one of these trainings as long as you have the skills.
You're going to have a lot of frustrated college grad employees explaining basic science concepts to their manager who refuses to see reason.
Lab manager usually requires at least a Master’s degree and experience. At least that’s the case for clinical, cGMP, and GLP. I don’t see people with less than a bachelor’s making it to a senior tech or supervisory position. They’ll probably just lower starting pay of Tech I.
Does it take a college degree to figure out that they want people who are more desperate for work who will take a lower wage?
Do people without college degrees know what QED means?
Good to see this is happening now I remember when I became a Neurosurgeon without going into medical school.I just got the skills.
Finished my Bachelors in Molecular bio and biotech in March. I have exstensive knowledge on the many subjects of biotech, ranging from insect cultures to mammalian cell cultures. I have genetically manipulated many many yeasts and bacteria. And for some reason the only jobs that South African companies seem think I am qualified for is being a sales representative...........
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True, in Indonesia there are two types of high school, those are SMA (general high school) and SMK (specialized high school), students who took SMA enroll and study just like your normal high school life and that is it; while the one who took SMK would get both specialized education to prepare them as a work force in an industry, in other words after graduation they are job qualified to any respected industry, in contrast of SMA who couldn't immediately work after graduated. If i could go back in time, i would force my parents to let me study in an SMK, the things i found it strange is that SMK education is heavily frowned upon.
So cool that places like this exist!
I think there a lot of talent out there just not all make it to collet for different reasons money, time or life challenges. Happy to see this ❤
I went to school, went into debt and NOW you can get a high paying job with no degree, wtf
My three oldest grandkids escaped going to college. Very different paths but all three situations look good for the long term. We were SO glad one grandson graduated from high school; don't even think about college. He works for Southwest but is striking out on his own. Paid cash for CDL training which he will use to become a line man. Go Trevor! This from a family with every one having a bachelor's or two or a masters.
I haven't seen this in my area. Only medical assisting, medical coding and billing and pharmacy technician. Then nursing jobs.
Will they ever be able to advance past entry or mid level jobs? I know many first year undergraduates who work in labs with minimal training, it's not that hard and involves a lot of route tasks. But all of them are studying so that when they graduate they can apply their skills towards conducting research. It's the degree that's teaching the background knowledge necessary to fully understand and apply that information and makes the difference between washing dishes and designing complicated studies.
This still great. They can work and build relationships with the scientists in the lab, know exactly what opportunity they may take and what education it's require. Colleges can help providing programs that's teach them only what they need for the job and make it flexible so they can learn while working. Young people now competing on degrees and grads they are not sure if they going to ever need it. The young are the future, if the young are wasting their time, our future is a waste.
Yes they will because as long as they keep learning and gain the skills necessary, they don't need a degree. At the end of the day, the skills and knowledge is all that matters and they get more of them here through a traditional degree.
they will hit a ceiling fast. Most likely what they're doing is just routine lab experiements, maybe with some tweaks. Without more education, they won't go far unfortunately. But they can always go back to school.
@@vectoralphaSec No, this is simply not true. The skills necessary to become a researcher are incredibly difficult to learn outside an academic setting and, even if they were learned, it is highly unlikely that anyone would hire someone without a degree (except maybe at a startup).
You say that colleges need to provide programs that "only teach them what they need for the job," but this will not create a generation of good scientists. Science is about making connections across different STEM disciplines and involves quite a bit of writing, both things that would likely fall outside the prevue of your hypothetical curriculum.
@fluffyunicorn57 yeah, this. You want to fund 5 million dollar project where the team has no basic science knowledge? No gen chem? No OChem? Only knows how to do PCR or run a gel but no idea of how or why it works? No knowledge on statistical methods? Of course not.
Driving down wages and making people more desperate than ever. It's proof that there never really has been a skills gap, just people not willing to work for so little with tens and hundreds of thousands of school debt hanging over them. Now they'll never pay that off with GEDs getting their jobs. Gotta compete with the Chinese throwing themselves out of windows, all so that the CEO can make bank.
Remember it's all about getting the strongest cheapest workers with their ability to negotiate; it sucks really but I am happy for theses guys.
Great to see these young adults having more options. It’s sometimes people who don’t feel comfortable following the crowd, that turn out to be very talented.
Even though I don't really care much about degree but just getting a hand on experience can land u to entry level job which are going to be taken by robots and ai the only one who will be surviving in the industry are the one who understands mecanism in such a way that they can make significant change to it do innovation and so on just rot learning the process to get a entry level job can't fulfill the Innovative mind set for which we need lot more theoretical , practical , analytical mind and so on
I want to work in biotech too, but I don't live in USA, in my country we don't have such a program( Hope, it will appear next years❤
“This is so fun and easy!” Oh.
Where I'm from we have a vocational school system where kids train with a company 4 days a week and go to school one day or train for several weeks and then go to school 5 weeks per semester and they get paid like 700€ the first year and then the second year it's 900 and then goes up to 1100 the last year. A lot of kids do that instead of high school.
I got a bachelor in chemistry and honestly, it was 2 years of unrelated information that was required by the university to waste my time and make them more money and only 2 years of learning core knowledge. Furthermore, the technology at the university was so behind, that the laboratory techniques that I learned was nothing like real on-the-job experience.
I’m still upset about my experience, especially being forced to take courses that have no relevance to a degree in chemistry. For my children, I’m looking at other options.
if no one else is going to highlight this, I am.
one, it's companies that don't want to hire entry level without the commitment to teaching new hires.
two, "college" in itself is such a misused word because there are countless certificates and degrees that can help launch you into these careers. education is not the problem, it's the companies.
This is awesome
As a biotech employee this is great to see. You do need advanced skills and knowledge to succeed, but your degree won't give you that. Work experience will. Helping high school students learn industry-specific knowledge is far more useful and valuable.
Where I live, it's illegal to get any of these jobs without a college degree...
And here i am, with a biotech degree, got it in 2012, and couldnt find a job, so i exited. I wanted to work in my field. Couldnt find it with a degree. And wtf do i see now? And really...?
Did you have research or laboratory experience? That’s often a requirement for industry. I know a lot of people with bachelor’s degrees that were surprised that they couldn’t get hired.
I know what a society without custodial staff, food industry workers, and waste management workers look like. It's one of society's greatest atrocities that they do not have guaranteed retirement.
College is often pointless because it ignores talent. Talent is the biggest factor of job success, not education.
Right now there are many experienced people who does the work better than the ones with degrees, but most of them are underpaid just because they don't have a certificate.
This is a great idea
Education should be a right for everyone, hence no loans but scholarships to those who can't afford it. This happens in some third world countries yet in US that is considered a first one country it doesn't...
Only in inferior countries this is a problem, in superior Germany this is never a problem
@@HUEHUEUHEPony actually funny enough in some 3rd world countries university is free while in US and Canada which are considered 1st World countries, students end up having to ask for loans and hence with huge debts.
@@gabrielafanelli3453you have to account for the quality of education though
You have to account for the quality of education. I guarantee you free college somewhere like Ecuador is the equivalent of high school in the US.
@@philip7833 not every country is like that though. Won't give names cause citizens from rich countries go to these countries to study for "free" (with those countries peoples taxes) and won't be advertising that as its not good for those countries. But in countries like US and Canada is way over ridiculously expensive.
I wish I had this where I lived
Great idea and excellent attitude! But this is just an ad for one of those places that pumps through "training", then getting a "job", like all those dodgy IT certification places in the early 2000's.
She's cute. Love her retro style. Hope she'll keep at it....................
This is normal in my country srilanka. High school leavers can get into MLT industry without a degree. The job includes long overnights working hours
Finally news that warm my heart. So many talented people get lost because of the old templates of having to spend money to buy a certificate.
I did this. Not everyone can do the "normal route". It's crazy how far behind US in this. Not everyone learn the same way. I mean the school system is based in 1800. It doesn't work for everyone.
This needs to be more common! Switzerland is like this , they only have 2% unemployment rate
i always wanted to go to university buts too expensive in the usa.
Of course you can find a entry level job in any field, but it’s not like they will let her make decisions. If the economy falls, the ones without degrees are the first to be laid off. Most companies use automated lab experiments now. DNA sequencing is completely automated now. They will be laid off easily, won’t have many chances at promotion, won’t have room to grow, and most of these jobs can be replaced by automation.
Wow! Get ready for the future guys when things start going SOUTH!
This is utterly brilliant.
I'm so jealous! I'm in love with biolgy, but there's no jobs like this where I am :(
Yes finally!
Without degrees it could be the next Theranos in the making. There were professionals who unmasked Elizabeth Holmes, and saved lives, thanks to whistleblowing. Companies can do it, but there are risks.
One the rude awakenings I experienced (and there were many) after beginning my bachelor's in biology was that there were a small number of "career track" students, and then there was everyone else. To be on the career track, you needed to make friends with a senior professor (ideally in your first year) and then spend 100s of hours doing unpaid work in their lab. This will, eventually, lead to them referring you to an entry-level job or a graduate program. Nobody sits you down and explains that this is how things work, that your studies are actually secondary to accumulating lab hours. What about students who aren't looking for a lab-based career? Good luck, I guess.
I posses a bachelor's degree in Economics/Mathematics and Spanish Literature. I want to be a Data Scientist or Data Engineer, but I am struggling to break into that field. Instead, I am a fuel hauler (truck driver that delivers fuel to gas stations and truck stops). I don't want to do this job forever. I got my CDL to pay for college, not to continue being a truck driver after graduating.
The problem is that if you overspecialize too early, you are not qualified for a broader job market, and you will get stuck career-wise. Your skills will only be valuable in those jobs that need those particular skills. What college gives you is a breadth of opportunities (unless you study something that has no demand, ofc, but life science degree is not one of them), and the ability to further increase those opportunities. A world opens up before you with a college degree, and for those who are disappointed that they don't find a job after college, they should think about what opportunities open up for them if they just move to somewhere else. Or if they've taken something like a business degree, they should think about combining that with a more practical skills-oriented degree, like engineering, life sciences, or computer science so that you don't only have this generic degree.