Great information and many thanks!👍😎 Lots of "IF's" .. IF ASUS can vastly improve their software, IF Synology will offer 2.5GbE as a base standard, and IF QNAS can improve their software features .. THEN the NAS consumer world would change overnight.
Of all of them I think the Synology is the closest to the mark given SMB3 multi-channel get you to 2GbE after a fashion. The bar for implementing it isn't high for anyone as opposed say software with Asustor/QNAP. Then again, you take the biggest hit when it comes to the hardware with Synology. As with all things its the compromises that hurt in this price point but you do get the full DSM with Synology.
As a Canadian... thank you for letting me know that our dollar is still worth EVEN LESS in England. When I lived there for 6 months, our dollar was almost 1:1 (back in 2013) by the time I left, I couldn't afford ANYTHING lol. Thanks for the video, and the time and effort you put into it, just the same!
Dude YOU are too bleeding generous and you humble me/us with the donation bud! Really appreciate the extra faith in what we do man! I still think about you and your cat Bob. Thanks again *paw wave* from Ron, my cat which is way, way too adventurous for his own good!
@@nascompares Its juts a token for the work you both put into this channel and giving us so much info on all that is nas and storage and i know the adds wont make you alot but what i ment to say is Your Welcome its my pleasure , cats are fab i may end up fostering cats to help them transition from shelter life to there new forever home life we shall see
Hi bud (I saw you have two accs, so just sending this Copy n Pate to both in case)! Quick Message. Can you fire me an email on robbie (@) nascompares (dot com), it’s regarding bit of fun content I am working on for the channel and I am inviting those that donated to the channel or regular supporters/commentors along. Can really fire it here in the comments. Cheers in advance and look forward to hearing from you! p.s. Reading this message back, it sounds REALLY SPAMMY! Sorry for the cryptic nonsense and believe me, this is legit...I hate seagulls… I pronounce Router right/wrong….. quid… knicker…. Etc. I hope this convinces you I am me! *triggers existential crisis*
I love your videos. As a Yankee, I can’t get enough of how you refer to your currency. “Knicker?” Holy smokes, we have no good names for our dollary doos, here.
Except he's using it here to mean pounds, dollars, and euros. In spite of currency fluctuations, saying something (generically) is "five hundred nicker" gets you in the ballpark regardless of which of these three currencies is used. It's a nice touch. :)
Thanks for the advice. I had a question if you had time to answer? I'm new to NAS and am looking for one purely for backing up my new M2 Mac in the background while I'm working. I'd be looking to need around 4 - 6 TB, any suggestions? Thanks
I love your videos at around seven minutes in the upper right corner has a different video in the block where you have the data you might want to re-upload
Genuinely cannot tell if you are trolling me lol. That is the Synology DSM software, it was on purchase and from the videoreview I mention in the video. Cheers for the feedback though man
Would there be any issue if I were to put two 2.5" SSDs into the Synology DS723+ such as the SAMSUNG 870 EVO 4TB SATA III Internal SSDs and add the optional 10Gb Ethernet Module? At about $220 each for the SSDs it seems this would be a good, high speed, quiet, cooler running option that is still somewhat reasonable in price.
I doubt that the NAS's onboard CPU will be capable of handling the full 10Gbps speeds, especially not when using SMB file-shares. Using cifs shares on Mac or Linux should increase speeds a bit, compared to SMB. But I estimate that it will be more around 2 to 5 Gbps max... My custom build NAS is connected through 10Gbps SFP+ to my switch, all computers are connected through 2.5Gbps ethernet to the same switch. Windows is rather stuck at 260-280MBps, whilst Linux with cifs gets something around 300MBps (2400 Mbps). But that's on a more powerful x86 based processor.
If I don't use it for video transcoding but only for file backup and access, do I need to look at the more expensive ones? Or is it the same if I go with the cheaper ones?
I am seriously between the Asustor Flashtor 6 and the Asustor Lockerstor 4 gen 2... I really don't know which one is better. I love that the Lockerstor has the option for me to put in both NvMe and HDD drives... While the Flashtor only give me the option to use extrenal HDDs... I would use it mainly as a Jellyfin Server for my boyfriend and myself (remotely and at home) which obviously means that I need good transcoding (Because I have a ton of H265 content).... I am more or less leaning towards the Lockerstor. Maybe you guys can give me some advices :) Thanks! EDIT: The content I have is mainly 1080p, so I don't really need to have "big files" on an SSD.
A totally fab product but I'm not entirely sure about the Asustor Flashstor 6 being in the sub-$500 budget lineup because at some point you're going to have to put storage into it and it's not likely you're either going to get to 4 x 14TB (or higher) in storage capacity nor is someone looking in this price bracket going to have a number of SSDs just laying about to fill it. Its one of those odd products that makes me scratch my chin wondering who it is exactly for.
I did consider the premium 2 bays like that and the DS723+ quite a lot, but the issue was overall scalability. That CPU is good, but the fixed 8GB memory (currently, anyway) and only 2 bay/RAID1 ultimately made it less beneficial to the avg user than the dual core (same CPU family) 4 bay with the same level of hardware services, but more memory possible, RAID 5 and power price. Hope that makes sense man
@@nascompares Of course it makes sense. However, the AVERAGE user will choose RAID1 for security. It's easier to connect the drive to a computer and recover data than with RAID5.For an ordinary user of the user to store photos or other multimedia, 8GB is too much. The processor uses less power than the 723+. And the alternative - UNRAID. In any case, there's always someone up to $500 to choose something for themselves. Not necessarily 4 bays. Space in the room and general silence (1 fan instead of 2) knocking heads ......... for a home user, 2 bays are enough ;)
In GPU world, AMD provides far more value, but people buy NVIDIA anyway. Same as Synology (sigh). I hope Flashstor make a huge impact on NAS market. We want more progress rather than being happy with the 1Gbe's and an older gen CPU forever.
Or just put together a custom desktop for about 450$, with Openmediavault on it as OS... It's cheaper, has better hardware specs, it's up-gradable in the future, can easily be repaired when out of warranty, takes more disks (usually 6 or 8 by default) and can house a sata pci-expansion card if required. For about 800$, you could've an I7 or ryzen 9 NAS with 64GB ram and run Proxmox VE on it, hosting your own mini data-center from home... Those pre-manufactured NAS boxes are usually an overpriced proprietary ripoff, resulting in needless e-waste down the line...
@@RapManCZ Then get an ARM sbc, instead of an x86 system. That's literally what they put in many of those pre-manufactured NAS enclosures, and the reason why their power consumption is so low. An ARM sbc is less up-gradable than an x86 system, yet it's more reusable than those pre-manufactured NAS enclosures. Any proprietary solution will always be my least favorite option to choose from.
I bought Synology NAS because of SHR. If Synology has no SHR, I will choose Qnap.
Thank you,
I got DS923+ based on your recommendations
How does it work for you? I am thinking about buying the same.
Great information and many thanks!👍😎 Lots of "IF's" .. IF ASUS can vastly improve their software, IF Synology will offer 2.5GbE as a base standard, and IF QNAS can improve their software features .. THEN the NAS consumer world would change overnight.
Of all of them I think the Synology is the closest to the mark given SMB3 multi-channel get you to 2GbE after a fashion. The bar for implementing it isn't high for anyone as opposed say software with Asustor/QNAP. Then again, you take the biggest hit when it comes to the hardware with Synology. As with all things its the compromises that hurt in this price point but you do get the full DSM with Synology.
@@IntoxicatedVortex not really...synology has to change its hardware too... the new cpus are shit
As a Canadian... thank you for letting me know that our dollar is still worth EVEN LESS in England. When I lived there for 6 months, our dollar was almost 1:1 (back in 2013) by the time I left, I couldn't afford ANYTHING lol.
Thanks for the video, and the time and effort you put into it, just the same!
Pretty much. Just looked up the DS923+ and..... $900. We suck again.
your link for the DS423+ goes to a ds923+ for me
Thank You for another great video and all the work you both do for us i appreciate all you both do as ever Kenny
Dude YOU are too bleeding generous and you humble me/us with the donation bud! Really appreciate the extra faith in what we do man! I still think about you and your cat Bob. Thanks again *paw wave* from Ron, my cat which is way, way too adventurous for his own good!
@@nascompares Its juts a token for the work you both put into this channel and giving us so much info on all that is nas and storage and i know the adds wont make you alot but what i ment to say is Your Welcome its my pleasure , cats are fab i may end up fostering cats to help them transition from shelter life to there new forever home life we shall see
Hi bud (I saw you have two accs, so just sending this Copy n Pate to both in case)! Quick Message. Can you fire me an email on robbie (@) nascompares (dot com), it’s regarding bit of fun content I am working on for the channel and I am inviting those that donated to the channel or regular supporters/commentors along. Can really fire it here in the comments. Cheers in advance and look forward to hearing from you! p.s. Reading this message back, it sounds REALLY SPAMMY! Sorry for the cryptic nonsense and believe me, this is legit...I hate seagulls… I pronounce Router right/wrong….. quid… knicker…. Etc. I hope this convinces you I am me! *triggers existential crisis*
I love your videos. As a Yankee, I can’t get enough of how you refer to your currency. “Knicker?” Holy smokes, we have no good names for our dollary doos, here.
For a sec there I was like 500 WHAT??? 😳 😂
Except he's using it here to mean pounds, dollars, and euros. In spite of currency fluctuations, saying something (generically) is "five hundred nicker" gets you in the ballpark regardless of which of these three currencies is used. It's a nice touch. :)
Just what I was looking for! Now, time to buy the 923+..
Thanks for the advice. I had a question if you had time to answer? I'm new to NAS and am looking for one purely for backing up my new M2 Mac in the background while I'm working. I'd be looking to need around 4 - 6 TB, any suggestions? Thanks
I love your videos at around seven minutes in the upper right corner has a different video in the block where you have the data you might want to re-upload
Genuinely cannot tell if you are trolling me lol. That is the Synology DSM software, it was on purchase and from the videoreview I mention in the video. Cheers for the feedback though man
@@nascompares not trolling you It looked out of place
Curious if the DS923+ or TS-464 will be discounted during Prime Day next week?
could you please make an episode of how to use your asustor nas to play 4k video to your tv please - i still haven't mastered that yet
Would there be any issue if I were to put two 2.5" SSDs into the Synology DS723+ such as the SAMSUNG 870 EVO 4TB SATA III Internal SSDs and add the optional 10Gb Ethernet Module? At about $220 each for the SSDs it seems this would be a good, high speed, quiet, cooler running option that is still somewhat reasonable in price.
I doubt that the NAS's onboard CPU will be capable of handling the full 10Gbps speeds, especially not when using SMB file-shares.
Using cifs shares on Mac or Linux should increase speeds a bit, compared to SMB. But I estimate that it will be more around 2 to 5 Gbps max...
My custom build NAS is connected through 10Gbps SFP+ to my switch, all computers are connected through 2.5Gbps ethernet to the same switch. Windows is rather stuck at 260-280MBps, whilst Linux with cifs gets something around 300MBps (2400 Mbps). But that's on a more powerful x86 based processor.
If I don't use it for video transcoding but only for file backup and access, do I need to look at the more expensive ones? Or is it the same if I go with the cheaper ones?
I am seriously between the Asustor Flashtor 6 and the Asustor Lockerstor 4 gen 2... I really don't know which one is better. I love that the Lockerstor has the option for me to put in both NvMe and HDD drives... While the Flashtor only give me the option to use extrenal HDDs... I would use it mainly as a Jellyfin Server for my boyfriend and myself (remotely and at home) which obviously means that I need good transcoding (Because I have a ton of H265 content).... I am more or less leaning towards the Lockerstor. Maybe you guys can give me some advices :) Thanks!
EDIT: The content I have is mainly 1080p, so I don't really need to have "big files" on an SSD.
The Terramaster logo looks like a copy of the Coolermaster logo. Are they affiliated? :')
I appreciate the video but which one is the best ?
A totally fab product but I'm not entirely sure about the Asustor Flashstor 6 being in the sub-$500 budget lineup because at some point you're going to have to put storage into it and it's not likely you're either going to get to 4 x 14TB (or higher) in storage capacity nor is someone looking in this price bracket going to have a number of SSDs just laying about to fill it. Its one of those odd products that makes me scratch my chin wondering who it is exactly for.
thank's for share
You forgot about the QNAP TS-264-8G. It's hard to find good competition at this price
I did consider the premium 2 bays like that and the DS723+ quite a lot, but the issue was overall scalability. That CPU is good, but the fixed 8GB memory (currently, anyway) and only 2 bay/RAID1 ultimately made it less beneficial to the avg user than the dual core (same CPU family) 4 bay with the same level of hardware services, but more memory possible, RAID 5 and power price. Hope that makes sense man
@@nascompares Of course it makes sense. However, the AVERAGE user will choose RAID1 for security. It's easier to connect the drive to a computer and recover data than with RAID5.For an ordinary user of the user to store photos or other multimedia, 8GB is too much. The processor uses less power than the 723+. And the alternative - UNRAID. In any case, there's always someone up to $500 to choose something for themselves. Not necessarily 4 bays. Space in the room and general silence (1 fan instead of 2) knocking heads ......... for a home user, 2 bays are enough ;)
In GPU world, AMD provides far more value, but people buy NVIDIA anyway. Same as Synology (sigh). I hope Flashstor make a huge impact on NAS market. We want more progress rather than being happy with the 1Gbe's and an older gen CPU forever.
What's "nicker"?
It's about a 'quid'...
Or just put together a custom desktop for about 450$, with Openmediavault on it as OS...
It's cheaper, has better hardware specs, it's up-gradable in the future, can easily be repaired when out of warranty, takes more disks (usually 6 or 8 by default) and can house a sata pci-expansion card if required. For about 800$, you could've an I7 or ryzen 9 NAS with 64GB ram and run Proxmox VE on it, hosting your own mini data-center from home...
Those pre-manufactured NAS boxes are usually an overpriced proprietary ripoff, resulting in needless e-waste down the line...
And how about the power consumption? Please show me a custom desktop NAS with 4W in idle mode...
@@RapManCZ Then get an ARM sbc, instead of an x86 system.
That's literally what they put in many of those pre-manufactured NAS enclosures, and the reason why their power consumption is so low.
An ARM sbc is less up-gradable than an x86 system, yet it's more reusable than those pre-manufactured NAS enclosures.
Any proprietary solution will always be my least favorite option to choose from.
@@timmy7201 any recommendation where I can also then install DSM over Automated Redpill Loader (arpl-i18n)?
@@RapManCZ Heum?
Just put any Linux system on it of choice, then install the required packages using the package manager?
500 What?
Virtual machines on a dual core is a bit of a joke. Come on.