You guys are my favorite yt car channel rn next to cleetus. I love the grassroots get it done mentality and giving that little engine an absolute hot supper.
@@Low760 I agree. I was subbed at the beginning of his channel and while I think it's great he made a name for himself, I really miss what it was like when he first started out. Fortunately I got camp dogs to fill that void now and I love what they do.
New subscriber and you guys are awesome!! Crazy what these motors can take! Also definitely keep the videos coming I can see you guys being the new Boosted bois!! Haha!
New subscriber here lads. Algorithm spat me straight over from Skid Factory. Absolutely love it lads, keep up the sick work. It's quite possible I'm experiencing a similar phenomenon in my turbo Suzuki Sierra. Runs about the same when cold or hot, but doesn't seem to make anymore power after 15psi. Have thrown 25psi at it and it seems to make a lot more noise... but doesn't pull any harder. Has built bottom end. Lightly ported cylinder head but stock cams and springs 🤔.
It’s been a while, but having run that sort of boost (it was a Volvo 480 1.7 turbo) a hybrid t3/t4 at 42psi, then into an inter-inter cooler then Eaton m45 supercharger, then another inter cooler giving 52psi tops. Breaking 50psi, that starts to get pretty tricky, I ended up ceramic coating the whole combustion chamber, the head, and the pistons (it is a flat head/in piston combustion chamber design) down to the second ring land. Sodium filled exhaust valves too, or they just burn up. The engine didn’t blow up, I still have it. If you want any info, happy to share
The compound setup with a supercharger, it massively improves the time till the main turbo comes on boost, worth at least thinking about. It is also good for drivability, but adds to the screaming howling noise.
Hey thanks for the info. What fuel were you using? Funny thing with out setup is the air temps at the intake manifold are just above ambient (38 Celsius) at 46 psi only using one front mount intercooler. Every other compound setup I’ve seen has problems with air temps being too high. We are still running stock exhaust and intake valves in this 😂💪💪
@@Camp_Dogs Fuel was 99 octane ‘super unleaded’ but adding toluene up to 25% improves power (I was running a knock sensor) I had mostly stock internal stuff, the pistons I machined myself, to drop the compression a bit, I opened the ports up a bit. I enlarged the piston oil spray jets a bit, and upped the oil pressure. I had to use a cooler before the supercharger, those can’t cope with high input temperatures, my final inter cooling was the same size as the radiator, I never had temperature issues either, like you just above ambient. 42psi was no problem with stock everything, but breaking 50 it started getting difficult. Part of the problem is the heat flux, trying to conduct the heat away. That’s where ceramic coating helps, it holds the heat in the combustion chamber, because aluminium oxide is refractory, the surface also cools much faster with the incoming charge, that reduces the detonation threshold. The valves took a hit after that, sodium filled valves obviously conduct much more heat away, that fixed it. Several engines had various parts melted, it gets tedious swapping out pistons, ceramic coating absolutely fixed that (the process used was keronite, the aluminium oxide is formed from the aluminium of the piston, so it can’t fall off) the head was just plasma sprayed, including the gasket mating surfaces, it actually grips the gasket much better (it has texture like 1200grit or finer sandpaper). All this was done in a shed in rural Somerset, the same method as you, try stuff and fix things when they break. Lots of odds and ends, adding extra engine mounts (I put 2 at the top of the engine, attached to a beefy strut brace) and reinforced the existing rear mount (those are known for being weak with normal power). If I can pass on anything that helps, hopefully it saves you some trial and error. Good luck with the project.
That’s not how that works hp turbo compounds the air from low pressure, so lp makes 4-5psi and final boost is 40psi then the hp is increasing pressure by a factor of 10
I’m no compound guru, but It’s never spun the wheels in third gear before and now it’s bouncing off the limiter in third and sprayed oil out of the catch can all over the firewall. I think we have enough boost.
@@Camp_Dogs for sheer ballsyness, disregard for self preservation and ingenuity when it comes to making a turbo do anything with anything, absolutely 😂 I'm now too drunk to say anything more amusing though. #IrishOut
Don’t happen to have a part number for the valve springs? 😅 Think I snagged the last set of available H beam rods on the internet for the GA16. Did you guys have to clearance the block to run them?
Part number is PS1005 Make sure you tell them we sent you! You don’t have to clearance the block for the rods, but you will have to clearance the main girdles… As long as you have around 1mm of clearance it will be perfectly fine. Ours is about half a mm 😂🤙
@@Camp_Dogs thanks. ive been wondering if compound setups used one or two as ive been thinking about trying it myself.. by any chance do you know the formula for boost calculation?
46 psi boost cut! Can't wait to show the world how crazy but awesome you guys are. Had a blast in Darwin boys.
love seeing this
The algorithm got me here, I'm loving your work Lads and will be sharing the channel.
New subscriber, I have binge watched just about every episode now haha !
Love your work boys
Bloody keen. This is the content I like to see. Thanks for uploading
You guys are my favorite yt car channel rn next to cleetus. I love the grassroots get it done mentality and giving that little engine an absolute hot supper.
Massive contrast to cleatus who pays everyone and uses big dollar stuff now.
@@Low760 I agree. I was subbed at the beginning of his channel and while I think it's great he made a name for himself, I really miss what it was like when he first started out. Fortunately I got camp dogs to fill that void now and I love what they do.
New subscriber and you guys are awesome!! Crazy what these motors can take! Also definitely keep the videos coming I can see you guys being the new Boosted bois!! Haha!
So good keep up the good work one of the better channel around
Great to see the progression on this high end build. It will be great at Cootamundra next year.
Conversation hasn’t even come up yet but I’m liking it already 😂
Love it that the hammer has a pink cloth on to protect the paint, but the fender looks like a crispy piece of bacon
5:46 clearly need a bigger turbo guys!
Ive learned quite a bit from these vids and seeing the builds come together 👍
Thanks dude more to come!!
Remind everyone, boost psi is a measure of how much air that is Not going into the combustion chamber. It is pressure built up in the intake manifold
New subscriber here lads. Algorithm spat me straight over from Skid Factory. Absolutely love it lads, keep up the sick work. It's quite possible I'm experiencing a similar phenomenon in my turbo Suzuki Sierra. Runs about the same when cold or hot, but doesn't seem to make anymore power after 15psi. Have thrown 25psi at it and it seems to make a lot more noise... but doesn't pull any harder. Has built bottom end. Lightly ported cylinder head but stock cams and springs 🤔.
Yeah sick work boys!
Cant wait for the fireworks!
Another new sub here! I'm jealous of you guys. 😁Love the videos.
Let’s go !!! 😜👍🇦🇺
Why doesn’t this channel have 100k+ subscribers, I look forward to a new camp dogs video more than any other channel 😂
We are probably too dodgey 😂 🤷♂️
I'm subscribed on all 5 of my channels lol.
Camp dogs??? More like Mad dogs!
Fucking love the content brothers! ✊🏻
😱 Qué locura de video, ustedes trabajan en el cielo de los fierros exelente trabajo 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Love the MacGyver shit Matt does 😎 can't wait to see em all rippin 💪🏽 GO ON CAMP DOGGGSS !!!
I wish/need friends like Matt Berry and Nick. Im pretty nuch doing the rest of my build on my own now.
Rossi boost pressure, nice one bike dudes.
Pumped for some rollies!
It’s been a while, but having run that sort of boost (it was a Volvo 480 1.7 turbo) a hybrid t3/t4 at 42psi, then into an inter-inter cooler then Eaton m45 supercharger, then another inter cooler giving 52psi tops.
Breaking 50psi, that starts to get pretty tricky, I ended up ceramic coating the whole combustion chamber, the head, and the pistons (it is a flat head/in piston combustion chamber design) down to the second ring land. Sodium filled exhaust valves too, or they just burn up.
The engine didn’t blow up, I still have it.
If you want any info, happy to share
The compound setup with a supercharger, it massively improves the time till the main turbo comes on boost, worth at least thinking about. It is also good for drivability, but adds to the screaming howling noise.
Haha in a volvo 480? Where do you come from?
@@pim24599 In the UK, yes why not. It was fun watching porche drivers gnawing the steering wheel and willing their car to go faster...
Hey thanks for the info. What fuel were you using?
Funny thing with out setup is the air temps at the intake manifold are just above ambient (38 Celsius) at 46 psi only using one front mount intercooler. Every other compound setup I’ve seen has problems with air temps being too high.
We are still running stock exhaust and intake valves in this 😂💪💪
@@Camp_Dogs Fuel was 99 octane ‘super unleaded’ but adding toluene up to 25% improves power (I was running a knock sensor) I had mostly stock internal stuff, the pistons I machined myself, to drop the compression a bit, I opened the ports up a bit. I enlarged the piston oil spray jets a bit, and upped the oil pressure.
I had to use a cooler before the supercharger, those can’t cope with high input temperatures, my final inter cooling was the same size as the radiator, I never had temperature issues either, like you just above ambient.
42psi was no problem with stock everything, but breaking 50 it started getting difficult. Part of the problem is the heat flux, trying to conduct the heat away. That’s where ceramic coating helps, it holds the heat in the combustion chamber, because aluminium oxide is refractory, the surface also cools much faster with the incoming charge, that reduces the detonation threshold. The valves took a hit after that, sodium filled valves obviously conduct much more heat away, that fixed it.
Several engines had various parts melted, it gets tedious swapping out pistons, ceramic coating absolutely fixed that (the process used was keronite, the aluminium oxide is formed from the aluminium of the piston, so it can’t fall off) the head was just plasma sprayed, including the gasket mating surfaces, it actually grips the gasket much better (it has texture like 1200grit or finer sandpaper).
All this was done in a shed in rural Somerset, the same method as you, try stuff and fix things when they break.
Lots of odds and ends, adding extra engine mounts (I put 2 at the top of the engine, attached to a beefy strut brace) and reinforced the existing rear mount (those are known for being weak with normal power).
If I can pass on anything that helps, hopefully it saves you some trial and error.
Good luck with the project.
The twin starlet is so cool man
Good job on making that tool genius
Beast of a car. Turbo nearly bigger than the engine 😂😂😂
Bro we need to do a callab this is amazing loving the builds
The mad dogs strike again!!
i can hear the turbo spooling from wa
Your going to need more boost that that bud. its compound now so that means the turbo speeds be running at pressure ratio of 2:! aka 1 bar of boost.
That’s not how that works hp turbo compounds the air from low pressure, so lp makes 4-5psi and final boost is 40psi then the hp is increasing pressure by a factor of 10
@@turkeyboyjh1 your sooooo wrong
I’m no compound guru, but It’s never spun the wheels in third gear before and now it’s bouncing off the limiter in third and sprayed oil out of the catch can all over the firewall.
I think we have enough boost.
The turbo wheel speed of the smaller one has actually come down 20,000rpm and it’s clearly making way more power
@@Camp_Dogs yep more density at the inlet of the wheel means more resistance so it would make a sense to see less shaft speed
I feel like you lads and MCM doing a budget turbo build in collab would be absolute chaos.. 😂💥
Hate to sound cocky, but we would smoke #mcm
@@Camp_Dogs for sheer ballsyness, disregard for self preservation and ingenuity when it comes to making a turbo do anything with anything, absolutely 😂 I'm now too drunk to say anything more amusing though. #IrishOut
next big guys in the underground youtube scheme
Crazy
What auto trans are you guys running? How do they last with all that power?
Built GT Starlet auto
Came here to ask the same question
Don’t happen to have a part number for the valve springs? 😅 Think I snagged the last set of available H beam rods on the internet for the GA16. Did you guys have to clearance the block to run them?
Part number is PS1005
Make sure you tell them we sent you!
You don’t have to clearance the block for the rods, but you will have to clearance the main girdles…
As long as you have around 1mm of clearance it will be perfectly fine.
Ours is about half a mm 😂🤙
@@Camp_Dogs That part number comes back as "Premium Jumbo Toilet Roll 2 Ply 300m" lol.
@@Lazy_Timbro ring them 😂😂😂😂 don’t fkn google it
@@Camp_Dogs legend, thanks guys!
I hope you won't stop making content. Seems other car channels are shutting down 😢
does each turbo have a wastegate or is there only 1 wastegate on the smaller turbo?
Only one
@@Camp_Dogs thanks. ive been wondering if compound setups used one or two as ive been thinking about trying it myself.. by any chance do you know the formula for boost calculation?
😃🤘
3:21 haha :D it would be easier to get compression tester hose hooked up but w/e :D
putting cylinder to tdc is also good safe measure
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you guys are crazy