I always get many kills with my maxed PAVISE (heroes and units), I have double shot of course, but they're very situational. They work nice in tight spots for defense and hidden behind shields in offensive role. You need to use heavy bolts to penetrate those shields. FORTEBRACCIOS must be used in tight formations and mainly stationary protecting bottlenecks, not in wide formation as you used them in these games and don't bring forward that much, for God's sake, they have LONG POLES exactly to reach the enemy from long distance, those are not short lances to be used ar short range in hand. CONDOTTIERI are fun to play, but a bit aggressive if left alone, they seem to have been nerfed at some time, they were way better before. Nice content Plumsion
You're getting the Pavise too close to the enemy, they're not blind you know :D. Use them from medium or even long distance snipping. They have a ton of ammo so you can just forget about them and they will keep firing and snipping the enemy from far range. Do use their knock ability, it's pretty decent. Also, don't forget to give them the command to fire, as they seem to have quite a delay before they start firing by themselves. Best use: medium-long range sniping, not good in short range as they're too slow to keep with with the charge and if the situation turns they're too slow to escape.
To actually represent that season u should have gone for falconetti since while pavise is technically that season unit but it's not challenges exclusive u can get them in honor shop, if a player wanted to clear that season they would aim for forte and falconetti
I think you should have played Maul as well, its part of the seasonal challenges and one of the best things about of this season, you can max a unit, pavise and Maul seasonal quests all at once.
Forti deals insane damage to cav but only a couple hundred health to infantry. That's why I prefer using halberdier any day of the week. Also falconetti age the best out of all the seasonal units imo, going bottom line and use them like close range musket is really satisfying
Halberdiers are good and deal alot of damage more because of its formation, they are faster to form and move than fortes, at the same time they can defend better when pushed because they have a smaller attack range so they attack faster, that can be a good and bad thing, fortes have the range advantage and can much better hold points IFF theres a sturdy wall in front, they dont work very well when the enemy gets too close, different from the halbs. People using alot of disperse formation in fortes is another reason their damage is so spread out, they do alot of damage, but because they actually work better spread out and their range, they deal the damage too alot of units. Basically fortes deal less damage but too more units much easier than halbs, while halbs are better in a tight formation dealing alot of damage to closer enemies. (all of this the reason fortes are soo good vs cav).
Fortes r better than halbs coz they cover more area , their brace does stun with doctrine. Stun makes it worthwhile even if dmg is low. Yolo cant wipe them up. Put 1v1 halb vs yolo, halbs easily lose.
Forte Standing Brace=Deal higher dmg to infantry and 1hit KO Cavalry but easy get over run by CC. Forte Kneeling Brace=Deal less Dmg to Infantry and 2hit KO Cavalry due to slow pike tip rotating around, Take less dmg from Cavalry and avoid getting fully CC. Forte 1+1 Line Brace=No Different from Above. Still a very important unit that can Counter Yolo Cav but over run by Vampire Bltch Onna. Condo Charge only work on Non Block Unit, only Pefecture Guard Charge got Passive Shield Break, i never use Condo if having Prec Guard, they hit less and die out quick. Pavise Crossbow was the Great, each bolt can destroy any Block Unit with high dmg output, but after the nerf on all crossbow unit especially the Chevalier+Crossbow that doing Machine gun style, the nerf apply to all unit and this how it ended.
truly miss the old condo ai on the 2 ability, they used to nuke everything, would wipe imp spears in one button press as they used to ignore block and stun, should give them back their old pre nerf power
Just wondering. Why didnt you play maul? I feel like that would be a bit better to represent the season. Also, I feel you on those condos. Tried them out and they just don't kill anything.
I really think you do S3 a disservice by omitting Falconettis. True Condotteri's fell off hard, and so did Pasive. But Fortebraccio are S-tier by anybody's list, for countering cav & charges in defense, if you have the right doctrines - stun brace etc. And Falcos are very dangerous by somebody who knows how to use them. Last is the Maul which is probably THE meta weapon right now. So I think S3 deserves a higher grade. All tier grades are subjective, but you are missing 2 of the 3 best pieces.
Why do you fight Forties on the stairs? They never do well on stairs. Also Pavise went down hill ever since they reduced damage Vs Heroes. They were always good at punishing Heroes that dive to deep. Worst change they ever make.
Yeah ISGs are in a special place right now. Lots of good doctrine options and mastery makes them a mad difficult unit to break through. Mace serjeants and cav are decent counters, not much else.
Don't fight on stairs with pikes. Other infantry will beat your ass. Bottom or top of stairs holding they work great but on the actual incline of stairs pikes are at their worst. Also using fortes in dispersed formation no brace 90% of the time is in my opinion not how they were designed to be used well. They need to be condensed, focused and braced to really put in work. And not too close. Cause they literally have a clause in their unit info that says they cannot attack things close cause of their long pikes.
Open formation wothout brace can be really strong if your team has lots of units in a fight and enemys as well. Also if a hero dives your brace go for open and press for instant deletion. Otherwise i agree. Open formation brace is bad. Block and brace is best especially at the bottom of stairs or on doorway.
I always get many kills with my maxed PAVISE (heroes and units), I have double shot of course, but they're very situational. They work nice in tight spots for defense and hidden behind shields in offensive role. You need to use heavy bolts to penetrate those shields. FORTEBRACCIOS must be used in tight formations and mainly stationary protecting bottlenecks, not in wide formation as you used them in these games and don't bring forward that much, for God's sake, they have LONG POLES exactly to reach the enemy from long distance, those are not short lances to be used ar short range in hand. CONDOTTIERI are fun to play, but a bit aggressive if left alone, they seem to have been nerfed at some time, they were way better before. Nice content Plumsion
You're getting the Pavise too close to the enemy, they're not blind you know :D.
Use them from medium or even long distance snipping. They have a ton of ammo so you can just forget about them and they will keep firing and snipping the enemy from far range.
Do use their knock ability, it's pretty decent. Also, don't forget to give them the command to fire, as they seem to have quite a delay before they start firing by themselves.
Best use: medium-long range sniping, not good in short range as they're too slow to keep with with the charge and if the situation turns they're too slow to escape.
Pavise stats look very good but they just don't kill anything
8:30 that is a devestating charge with condos, great unit going straight in my warband.
The units charged into are pessants
To actually represent that season u should have gone for falconetti since while pavise is technically that season unit but it's not challenges exclusive u can get them in honor shop, if a player wanted to clear that season they would aim for forte and falconetti
Probably better new players see this, and don't waste there honor on the crossbows to be honest. Plus the stream Decided the units
Better the pavise...we all know the falco are good...unigue also.
I think you should have played Maul as well, its part of the seasonal challenges and one of the best things about of this season, you can max a unit, pavise and Maul seasonal quests all at once.
Greetings from DukaDizel!
Awesome series, I'm glad we can watch it on YT when we miss the stream. Keep up the good work my man. :)
I really like this series
It wil be a series right? *looks like how padme looks*
Forti deals insane damage to cav but only a couple hundred health to infantry. That's why I prefer using halberdier any day of the week. Also falconetti age the best out of all the seasonal units imo, going bottom line and use them like close range musket is really satisfying
Halberdiers are good and deal alot of damage more because of its formation, they are faster to form and move than fortes, at the same time they can defend better when pushed because they have a smaller attack range so they attack faster, that can be a good and bad thing, fortes have the range advantage and can much better hold points IFF theres a sturdy wall in front, they dont work very well when the enemy gets too close, different from the halbs.
People using alot of disperse formation in fortes is another reason their damage is so spread out, they do alot of damage, but because they actually work better spread out and their range, they deal the damage too alot of units.
Basically fortes deal less damage but too more units much easier than halbs, while halbs are better in a tight formation dealing alot of damage to closer enemies. (all of this the reason fortes are soo good vs cav).
Fortes r better than halbs coz they cover more area , their brace does stun with doctrine. Stun makes it worthwhile even if dmg is low. Yolo cant wipe them up. Put 1v1 halb vs yolo, halbs easily lose.
i highly enjoy this new format
Fortebracio pike men works beat on close tight formations having them brace on a loose formation will get em killed instantly
season 7 will be a good season sons/berserkers/shiled maidens...
Berserkers are not that good, sons of fenrir are also specialised. But shieldmaidens are pure gold
Forte Standing Brace=Deal higher dmg to infantry and 1hit KO Cavalry but easy get over run by CC.
Forte Kneeling Brace=Deal less Dmg to Infantry and 2hit KO Cavalry due to slow pike tip rotating around, Take less dmg from Cavalry and avoid getting fully CC.
Forte 1+1 Line Brace=No Different from Above.
Still a very important unit that can Counter Yolo Cav but over run by Vampire Bltch Onna.
Condo Charge only work on Non Block Unit, only Pefecture Guard Charge got Passive Shield Break, i never use Condo if having Prec Guard, they hit less and die out quick.
Pavise Crossbow was the Great, each bolt can destroy any Block Unit with high dmg output, but after the nerf on all crossbow unit especially the Chevalier+Crossbow that doing Machine gun style, the nerf apply to all unit and this how it ended.
truly miss the old condo ai on the 2 ability, they used to nuke everything, would wipe imp spears in one button press as they used to ignore block and stun, should give them back their old pre nerf power
Condo are good to push towers/battering rams ....
Sounds about right ✅️
Just wondering. Why didnt you play maul? I feel like that would be a bit better to represent the season. Also, I feel you on those condos. Tried them out and they just don't kill anything.
i wonder what would happen if the devs added a crossbow hero XD
That would be pretty cool, I have also really wanted a Shield/Spear Class
ooga booga
It's a shame how many of the old season units you have to X and V to get any value outside of their abilities.
Imo there is no point using pavise, just use shenji, tercio, maybe imperial arqueb
rattan marksman even kill enemies faster than them lol
From all the vids I seen from you I was under impression that you are good at the game. I hate to admit I was wrong.
Haha 😄 sometimes maybe good sometimes maybe shit.
I really think you do S3 a disservice by omitting Falconettis. True Condotteri's fell off hard, and so did Pasive. But Fortebraccio are S-tier by anybody's list, for countering cav & charges in defense, if you have the right doctrines - stun brace etc. And Falcos are very dangerous by somebody who knows how to use them. Last is the Maul which is probably THE meta weapon right now. So I think S3 deserves a higher grade. All tier grades are subjective, but you are missing 2 of the 3 best pieces.
Btw plum, imp jav will get mastery next
Ohhh exciting!!!
Why didn’t you run the cannon dude instead of the crossbows they are so much better
Because Falconettis are a known variable. They are still good.
Why do you fight Forties on the stairs? They never do well on stairs. Also Pavise went down hill ever since they reduced damage Vs Heroes. They were always good at punishing Heroes that dive to deep. Worst change they ever make.
is it me or ISG are INSANE now.. was back from a break and they can 1v1 shieldmaidens like wtf
Yeah ISGs are in a special place right now. Lots of good doctrine options and mastery makes them a mad difficult unit to break through. Mace serjeants and cav are decent counters, not much else.
@@provender5561mace seargants will kill hero inside the ISG but not kill ISG if they are build well. Unless you play maul.
Don't fight on stairs with pikes. Other infantry will beat your ass. Bottom or top of stairs holding they work great but on the actual incline of stairs pikes are at their worst. Also using fortes in dispersed formation no brace 90% of the time is in my opinion not how they were designed to be used well. They need to be condensed, focused and braced to really put in work. And not too close. Cause they literally have a clause in their unit info that says they cannot attack things close cause of their long pikes.
Open formation wothout brace can be really strong if your team has lots of units in a fight and enemys as well. Also if a hero dives your brace go for open and press for instant deletion. Otherwise i agree. Open formation brace is bad. Block and brace is best especially at the bottom of stairs or on doorway.
You play on frontier?
No I'm on my games
Is the game payeble for you? I just can't do it anymore.....
Pavise are so bad it's sad