Timothy McVeigh: America’s Deadliest Terrorist

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  • @Biographics
    @Biographics  5 лет назад +627

    For those of you asking, we had to re-upload the video because we made a mistake in the end credits.

    • @ericcarlson9200
      @ericcarlson9200 5 лет назад +7

      Oh man I thought I was losing it. Like how did I see this video without it being out already. Really made me feel crazy for a minute there guys. Great content hope it doesn't affect the views on this video too much. Keep up the great videos!

    • @_face773
      @_face773 5 лет назад +2

      Richard "The Iceman" Kuklinski , have you done a bio on him ????

    • @dirtymikentheboys5817
      @dirtymikentheboys5817 5 лет назад +3

      Where are you from Simon?

    • @Biographics
      @Biographics  5 лет назад +29

      ​@@dirtymikentheboys5817I'm from the UK, specifically the county of Kent in the south-east.

    • @kranklg2s
      @kranklg2s 5 лет назад +4

      @@Biographics Just watched the Sinatra episode and I really hope you'll do Woodie Guthrie one day. I doubt it's a common request though, so I'd settle on Kurt Cobain ^^

  • @phoenixrising1355
    @phoenixrising1355 5 лет назад +1506

    I grew up in Oklahoma City, and I can remember seeing the glass windows in my math class violently shake due to the shock wave that came after the detonation of the bomb. After the news broke about the cause, I waited along with other kids who had a parent who worked in the downtown area, huddled in front of television sets, to hear of more details, and for some to hope we could see our parent(s) walk by the cameras. That day, in middle school was the first time I realized my parents were mortal, truly realized the tradegy that my parents could and would die some day. I'm one of the lucky... my father wasn't hurt. But many didn't get that set of news.
    I'm proud to be an "Okie!", and prouder yet to see what we created from rubble. If anyone is interested, look up the survivor tree... And how we honored it.

    • @burke615
      @burke615 5 лет назад +52

      My wife has cousins in OKC, and visiting them over the years I had the opportunity to see the construction of the memorial on the site of the Murrah Building. It is beautiful and heart wrenching - though the notes, pictures, shoes, license plates, etc. tied onto the construction fence while the memorial was being built were what brought me to tears.

    • @TwoBitWriter
      @TwoBitWriter 5 лет назад +38

      I also grew up in OKC. I was in my 5th grade class reading "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn" when I heard the explosion. My mother and sister had been downtown that morning, and had gotten away only minutes before the bomb went off.

    • @FS-dm6et
      @FS-dm6et 5 лет назад +3

      proud to be an Okie?? what does that means. i am not an Okie. so should i write that i am proud not to be an Okie? or is it something like i am proud to be male?

    • @RubeeRoja
      @RubeeRoja 5 лет назад +13

      Thank you so much for sharing your memories of that experience. I had an extremely similar experience during the we'll trade center 9/11 attack in NYC and my heart went up it to my throat in empathy while reading your story.

    • @jimbehr2291
      @jimbehr2291 5 лет назад +23

      Try growing up in Northern Ireland. There were so many bombs you become numb to it.

  • @madcona
    @madcona 5 лет назад +1039

    Wow Vsauce has changed

    • @coyotelong4349
      @coyotelong4349 5 лет назад +49

      I though this was Binging with Babish???

    • @maki49574
      @maki49574 4 года назад +13

      Michael Santoro

    • @cervantes5958
      @cervantes5958 4 года назад +2

      Not for the better either.

    • @YayaBunWa
      @YayaBunWa 4 года назад +2

      I basically think this every time I see Simon.

    • @HeilRay
      @HeilRay 4 года назад +1

      LAMO

  • @faded_ink3545
    @faded_ink3545 4 года назад +1093

    “I hate and fear what the government is doing”
    - joins the army.

    • @jrm3319
      @jrm3319 3 года назад +172

      Let them train you then use it against them.

    • @timhughes6600
      @timhughes6600 3 года назад +58

      @@jrm3319 you're not wrong.

    • @minecraftvegan3989
      @minecraftvegan3989 3 года назад +165

      Actually his time in the army is what made him hate the govt

    • @ShellShock11C
      @ShellShock11C 3 года назад +187

      Veteran here, most other veterans hate the Government.

    • @chickenman5477
      @chickenman5477 3 года назад +30

      @@ShellShock11C oorah damn the government.

  • @swordmastersam483
    @swordmastersam483 2 года назад +114

    Ruby Ridge and Waco were super messed up. The guy from Ruby Ridge who missed his court date was given the wrong date in his summons, and had been tricked into breaking the law by the ATF to begin with when an informant asked him to shorten the barrel of a gun just a tiny bit under what was legal under the pretense that it was for a child.

    • @phantompanther648
      @phantompanther648 Год назад +5

      I remember reading " A guy drove up on a motorcycle and told man @ cabin ; l'll pay you $100.00 for every sawed off shotgun barrel you ...alter..."
      Rolling Stone Mag....?

    • @briandavey1139
      @briandavey1139 Год назад +41

      The atf shot and killed a woman while she was holding a baby.

    • @christinecanty5409
      @christinecanty5409 Год назад +7

      Both were handled by blood thirsty animals. I am not condoning what David K did at all with young girls. I believe both incidents could have been dealt with better than what took place. It’s all so tragic.

    • @barbaragarb9453
      @barbaragarb9453 Год назад +3

      And they now wonder why they *have* to be super careful to not "entrap" them i think the term is callled?

    • @phantompanther648
      @phantompanther648 Год назад

      @@barbaragarb9453 Um entrapment is , lazy Cops - Detective s trying for an arrest with faux FBook page....
      Entrapment is all the rage....right now...all over the web.
      Host Sites m u s t know it's going on.
      We can't get oversight on BIG things...like corrupt NIS officials....so entrapment practice is might as well be
      .........Law Of The Land..........

  • @KungFuBlitzKrieg
    @KungFuBlitzKrieg 5 лет назад +1045

    I just realized that, in his mug shot at least, Timothy McVeigh looks like H.P. Lovecraft.

    • @saraht8769
      @saraht8769 5 лет назад +11

      I thought the same !

    • @akg_table
      @akg_table 5 лет назад +19

      he looks like LinusTechTips to me

    • @joaop2294
      @joaop2294 5 лет назад +63

      He looks like a blend of Eminem and Lovecraft in the mug shot

    • @dontblockthebox
      @dontblockthebox 5 лет назад +1

      @@joaop2294 lol

    • @ianstu1940
      @ianstu1940 5 лет назад +3

      KungFuBlitzKrieg was about to comment this

  • @mariethemagnificent2000
    @mariethemagnificent2000 5 лет назад +183

    I was working in Tulsa, OK when I got news of the bombing and location. My Father had an appointment at 9:00 a.m. at the Social Security office at eve Murragh building. I was frantically trying to call and all the lines were jammed. No one worked the rest of that day. We just were glued to the TV.
    I finally got hold of my Dad, he didn’t go to the meeting. If he had, he would have been among the victims.
    I am so proud of Oklahomans. The first responders and crew never paid a penny for anything. Hot meals were brought to them. Soda. Snacks. Candy bars. You name it, it was provided. Our doctors and nurses came from all over the State. They heard the news and got in a car to help.
    The Oklahoma City memorial is lovely and honors the lives lost.

    • @brimonkmonk8212
      @brimonkmonk8212 3 года назад +3

      Glad to hear your dad made it. I was ten when this happened I remember hearing about it. It was so sad and senseless

    • @whatservicetojoin8593
      @whatservicetojoin8593 3 года назад

      An interesting concept - theoretically - if MDA had existed back in 1995 - & then Tim wood have had the opportunity to eliminate hundreds of Redcoats - with no civilian losses - he wood have done that & left the Murrah building alone ! Your thoughts ?

    • @sunnyta619
      @sunnyta619 3 месяца назад +1

      I worked for SSA in that building and was in the supply stockroom that morning. Had I been at my desk at the reception area I would have died. We lost the majority of our visitors in the reception area. I won’t go into the awful details of my experience but be very glad your dad wasn’t there. I lost most of my unit that morning, many friends and a great supervisor. Our office was directly underneath the daycare. Awful, awful day.

  • @m3talentagency680
    @m3talentagency680 4 года назад +254

    McVeigh: "They'll never catch us"
    90 minutes later...
    McVeigh: "Crap."

    • @willandrews9741
      @willandrews9741 3 года назад +4

      If that doesn’t say it all then I don’t know what does.

    • @broom3298
      @broom3298 3 года назад +7

      Lee Harvey Oswald was also caught pretty quick. How does someone plan a crime like this and then leave the scene with an upside down and drive on a highway

    • @samhansen6320
      @samhansen6320 2 года назад +4

      I don't think they ever thought they were gonna skate....unless they triggered the reaction from the people they were hoping for.

    • @brianwalsh1078
      @brianwalsh1078 2 года назад

      @@broom3298 even weirder the guy who killed Oswald. The fbi needed something to justify themselves after Waco.

    • @RB01.10
      @RB01.10 2 года назад

      @@broom3298 Oswald was just a mental case

  • @corvus9289
    @corvus9289 4 года назад +224

    I was there when it happened. I was in the 3rd grade. My mother was acting coroner for the state, and my father was a structural engineer, who was on the survey team that built the Murrah building.
    My mom came in to collect bodies, my dad was there to tell what places of the wreckage were safe to walk on and what would collapse under too much weight.
    The dogs they used to find survivors were getting depressed and giving up because they weren't finding anyone alive anymore.
    People, myself inclided, had to crawl inside and cry out so that the dogs would find living people so that they would be motivated to work again.
    At the memorial there's the "Survivors Tree". Under that tree is an Indian head penny, because my dad used to park his Indian motorcycle under that tree when he helped build that building.

    • @whatservicetojoin8593
      @whatservicetojoin8593 3 года назад +1

      Here's an interesting concept - theoretically - *if* MDA had existed back in 1995 - & then Tim wood have had the opportunity to eliminate hundreds of Redcoats - with no civilian losses - he wood have done that & left the Murrah building alone ! You thoughts ?

    • @midnmusic2217
      @midnmusic2217 3 года назад +14

      The dog thing also happened at 9/11

    • @victoriahope8371
      @victoriahope8371 2 года назад +13

      Those poor dogs. Imagine such loving creatures being depressed that they can't fulfill their jobs? Animals can suffer ptsd as well as humans. Hoping they went on to loving homes afterwards and spent the rest of their days chasing Frisbees, eating home cooked meals a few times a week, and being pet/cuddled to help them get restful sleep. Plus their own furniture to take a break from being a dog too. Those brave canines. You're also brave for giving those heroes motivation to keep working too.

    • @coleson2760
      @coleson2760 Год назад

      @@whatservicetojoin8593what are you even fuckin sayin?

    • @iamerror1699
      @iamerror1699 3 месяца назад

      @@whatservicetojoin8593 The hell u on bout?

  • @samuelbarber6177
    @samuelbarber6177 2 года назад +92

    “My gun is loaded, officer.”
    “So is mine.”
    Why do I feel like this cop is from a movie with Clint Eastwood?

    • @chlorophyll6154
      @chlorophyll6154 Год назад +1

      I called it "cheesy edgelord"

    • @deoglemnaco7025
      @deoglemnaco7025 Месяц назад +1

      Do you really think he said that? That’s the kinda cool stuff you think of like three hours later and be like man I should said that

  • @jumemowery9434
    @jumemowery9434 5 лет назад +785

    You should have mentioned that Weaver "missed" his court date because the court papers they sent Randy had the wrong date on them.

    • @krismoore8295
      @krismoore8295 5 лет назад +89

      its almost like they weren't to be trusted...

    • @jacoblee9455
      @jacoblee9455 5 лет назад +59

      Actually they tried to contact him multiple times, directly and through his lawyers. He refused to talk to both the government when called, his lawyer and they even informed nearby neighbors.

    • @jacoblee9455
      @jacoblee9455 5 лет назад +51

      @Old Iron His child shot at US Marshalls ? Secondly his wife was shot in the head through a door. I doubt they were using infrared scopes. Anymore excuses for criminals committing murder and then dying for it ?

    • @jacoblee9455
      @jacoblee9455 5 лет назад +44

      @Old Iron Yes, they did identify themselves as marshals, you could easily look up this information. They shot where the target is going, i.e. leading the target. Furthermore, while an ifrared scope doesn't differentiate targets it does allow you to see if there is a heat signature behind a door (i.e. a human being). The family killed a U.S. marshall do you think they were just going to walk away from it with no issues? If you do then you are naive. The U.S. government didn't own slaves, which makes your slavery argument irrelevant? Do you have any more ad-hoc fallacies you want to throw out? You know what would have solved this, I can tell you surrendering to the government for a crime you've been indicted for, he could have had due process yet chose not to do so and it cost lives in the process on both sides.

    • @m.s.l.7746
      @m.s.l.7746 5 лет назад +82

      y'all have been watching too many movies... Infrared scopes can't even see through glass (they only see the temp of the glass...or anything else) & they damn sure can't see through walls & doors.

  • @foxfiresidechats5227
    @foxfiresidechats5227 3 года назад +153

    Kills 160 people.
    Drives away from the scene in a car with no license plate.
    Logic = “am I a joke to you”

    • @Robert-ow8bs
      @Robert-ow8bs 3 года назад +4

      It's brain lacks wrinkles.

    • @thegardenofeatin5965
      @thegardenofeatin5965 3 года назад +23

      The funny thing about extremists, they tend to hold their principles above practicality. He was anti-gubmint, and a license plate is gubmint.

    • @foxfiresidechats5227
      @foxfiresidechats5227 3 года назад +3

      @@thegardenofeatin5965 good insight

    • @jwilliams1642
      @jwilliams1642 3 года назад +4

      It’s like a super extreme version of if you have drugs make sure the drugs are the only thing illegal you are doing. You wouldn’t drive 95 with a pound of weed in your car but this dude drives without a license plate after committing terrorism 🤔

    • @Teebeutel
      @Teebeutel 2 года назад

      They were probably distracted from the explosion but it shouldn’t happen of course

  • @Fembro
    @Fembro 5 лет назад +224

    The years have not been kind to hp lovecraft

    • @balaclavadude2898
      @balaclavadude2898 4 года назад +4

      / Bleu / did you know H.P. Lovecraft also named his cat the N-word this an actual fact

    • @perrypougins379
      @perrypougins379 4 года назад +9

      @@balaclavadude2898 "Come her N-word, come here"

    • @wannabeaussie5809
      @wannabeaussie5809 3 года назад +1

      simmilar political beliefs too

    • @Fembro
      @Fembro 3 года назад +6

      @@wannabeaussie5809 To be fair the only similarity was that lovecraft was racist. I don't think he was anti-gov to the extent of wanting to mercilessly kill other people with explosives.

    • @buildawall5803
      @buildawall5803 3 года назад +2

      @@perrypougins379 The german N word?
      Nazi?

  • @PresidentFunnyValentine
    @PresidentFunnyValentine 5 лет назад +1731

    Dude looks like a discount Eminem.

    • @governortarkin5957
      @governortarkin5957 5 лет назад +108

      He was older than Eminem. Eminem looks like a discount Timothy McVeigh.

    • @brolyonsome3963
      @brolyonsome3963 5 лет назад +8

      @@governortarkin5957 That's how I usually put it haha.

    • @DukeRaul
      @DukeRaul 5 лет назад +10

      @@governortarkin5957 Either way they're both dead in some sense of the word.

    • @DukeRaul
      @DukeRaul 5 лет назад +2

      That's hilarious!

    • @Parnell07
      @Parnell07 5 лет назад +5

      Swity In D12 is named after him too, coincidence? I think not but Sheeple. Back to the Em thing? Meh, you seen one white dude that didn’t get enough cuddles from Mummy you’ve seen em all.

  • @Chillbilly204
    @Chillbilly204 2 года назад +22

    It's worth noting that Randy Weaver only missed that court date because he was told it was a month later, so either a miscommunication or a typo set that off

  • @pianomirror4833
    @pianomirror4833 2 года назад +9

    If he had detonated the bomb at the ATF, FBI or IRS headquarters and not hurt any children in the process feel the public would of taken it very differently.

    • @BrainEatPenguin
      @BrainEatPenguin 2 года назад +4

      Yeah it’s sad he got the bad ending.

  • @Ryotbh
    @Ryotbh 4 года назад +30

    20:15 - calling children 'collateral damage' is as disgusting as it sounds. He however, is just mimicking the US Army that calls any civilian casualties 'collateral damage'. Just another way of dehumanising people.

  • @marcscordato4385
    @marcscordato4385 5 лет назад +313

    Truth be told ruby ridge and And Waco were handled very poorly. This gave “ justification” in the mind of a terribly misguided David Koresh.

    • @user-ur8hl8lr7q
      @user-ur8hl8lr7q 5 лет назад +77

      Ruby ridge shouldn't be lumped in with Waco. Both were tragedies, but the Weaver's did pretty much nothing to deserve their fate.

    • @romanzusman2892
      @romanzusman2892 5 лет назад +6

      @JcJ * yeah, well. Then russians were right to make carpet bombings in Chechnya in '94 and Israel was right to bomb Lebanon pretty much every year from 1983 to 1990 and from 2006 to 2007? Defending their own nations from separatists and islamic fanatics)

    • @juliancollot7579
      @juliancollot7579 5 лет назад +18

      JcJ * you realize there’s no proof that weaver was a white supremacist? No one in his family deserved it

    • @DeshGTP
      @DeshGTP 5 лет назад +11

      ​@@user-ur8hl8lr7q Its not what Weaver/Koresh did, Its how bad it was handled, and they were both handled, at sometime by the same ATF/FBI agent... I forgot his name darn

    • @felixleidinger1670
      @felixleidinger1670 5 лет назад +11

      @@user-ur8hl8lr7q Running at policemen with guns... Nobody deserves to be killed this way, yet I highly doubt many who say this would apply the same standards of someone deserving to be shot to the high death rate of afro-americans when encountering police. Kind of smells of hippocracy.

  • @alexrogers7913
    @alexrogers7913 2 года назад +16

    I think that the tragic and awful events of the Waco and Ruby Ridge and the slap on the wrist that the FBI and ATF agents got that led to this tragic and awful bombing is just an example of circular violence.

    • @dimbusjenkins
      @dimbusjenkins Год назад

      didn't help but don't bother playing devil's advocate for a homicidal psychopath or for a bunch of meth zombies who think their guns are more important than their children. it's a childish and stupid philosophy and only an idiot subscribes to it.

    • @Hans-yo2cq
      @Hans-yo2cq Год назад +1

      i also think when his grandfather died he died mentally, but that’s just me
      being able to look into the camera as you’re slowly dying while people pay to watch it and then still glaring at it post death is on a different level

  • @Ultrecht
    @Ultrecht 5 лет назад +45

    Amazing how detailed your videos are despite the length. I remember working in a regional trauma center in Ft. Smith, AR when this happened. Oddly enough, I was in Terre Haute, IN adjacent to the prison he was executed.

  • @brianodell234
    @brianodell234 5 лет назад +371

    Timmy Turner... I made a weird association with Timothy McVeigh and Fairly Odd Parents. “Timmy was an average kid that no one understands...”

    • @PhuckedUpPhilosophy
      @PhuckedUpPhilosophy 5 лет назад +35

      Brian Odell ATF + FBI always giving him commands (bad twerp).

    • @coreblue762
      @coreblue762 5 лет назад +45

      He even read The "Turner" Diaries.

    • @NimhLabs
      @NimhLabs 5 лет назад +23

      I sense a "creepy cartoon theory" creepypasta in the works here. One that will finally put the "Ash in a coma" and "Angelica is hallucinating Rugrats" ones to shame!

    • @conors4430
      @conors4430 5 лет назад +3

      Brian Odell what do you understand? He was socially isolated, disillusioned and a loner, and he committed a terrible act of violence against people who weren’t his enemy

    • @allsystemsgo8678
      @allsystemsgo8678 5 лет назад +2

      @@conors4430 they were his enemy, that's why he killed them.

  • @Jn-tj2ob
    @Jn-tj2ob 4 года назад +35

    Lol why he roast the family like that 😂 “ a family of nobodys”😭

    • @momo-cchi5978
      @momo-cchi5978 3 года назад +1

      He really dragged them for no reason. 😂😂😂

  • @ollie2244
    @ollie2244 4 года назад +16

    You know you did bad when your defence lawyers are like “yeah, nah... we’re not going to help you on this one”

  • @jonathannelson103
    @jonathannelson103 5 лет назад +171

    Like it or not, immediately after the bomb the high risk ATF raids stopped. It may have had some correlation.

    • @teddygrizz
      @teddygrizz 4 года назад +68

      It's almost like domestic terrorism, despite being horrific and something to be abhorred, is an immune response to an irresponsible and corrupt government.

    • @teddygrizz
      @teddygrizz 4 года назад +2

      @@jimothyhimony nope. You're right. It's not like that at all.

    • @LSPD1909
      @LSPD1909 4 года назад +5

      @@teddygrizz he is right, and your short minded if you actually think what you said is true.

    • @raymay9276
      @raymay9276 4 года назад +2

      @@Muhmawmehmaw dont forget the 1985 philadelphia bombing. The government was a big terrorist organization

    • @orion8981
      @orion8981 4 года назад +6

      @@Muhmawmehmaw But they stopped, did they not?
      While it's awful, he danced the same dance the government continues to play to this day. He's no different than a pilot dropping a bomb.

  • @rachelstout7623
    @rachelstout7623 2 года назад +48

    I’m from Oklahoma, born and raised, just a year after the bombing. Growing up, this was something you learned about very early on if you weren’t alive to experience it. Everyone has a story of where they were when they felt the explosion, my parents worked in Norman about 25 minutes south of the building and felt the windows of the dealership shake. No one knew what had happened, they just knew they needed to turn on the television.
    Now, I work 5 min. from the memorial, I drive by it all the time and see the fence where people leave plush toys, photos, and cards so we never forget the lives lost.
    All that being said, I’ve only walked the grounds of the building, but have never been inside the museum.

  • @anko1225
    @anko1225 3 года назад +96

    The greatest villains always has a reason for their insanity, and sometimes quite arguably even some logic behind it.
    It's just that their plan has too much collateral damage and hurts innocent lives.

    • @lanefair2950
      @lanefair2950 3 года назад +8

      @Ryan Ryan And right wing fanatics

    • @PrincessQ-fj9ly
      @PrincessQ-fj9ly 3 года назад +1

      Anko 122 you make a very good point. Too often, we have simplistic views of people who are reviled as villains and people who are celebrated as heroes. We need to remember that people are remembered by history are just as complex as the rest of us.

    • @demilembias2527
      @demilembias2527 3 года назад +6

      @Spaalone Babagus that's probably true (although I've never seen anyone argue why the bombing of Dresden was necessary), but its horrifying that you say this of a neo-nazi terrorist whose main long term goal, as explained in the turner diaries, was the murder of most people on earth.

    • @yibithehispanic
      @yibithehispanic 2 года назад +7

      @@demilembias2527 Because he bombed the ATF, it was a fascist bombing a building from a fascist institution

    • @ninjaswordtothehead
      @ninjaswordtothehead 2 года назад

      Perfect description of the government.
      Oh wait...

  • @cultofmalgus1310
    @cultofmalgus1310 4 года назад +29

    The same sniper that killed the mother and feeding child at Ruby Ridge was the same one who fired shots at Waco. He claimed that he had not fired a round but it was later found out that he had shot at least 3 rounds because 3 spent .308 shells were lying on the floor near his rifle.

  • @sambecker23
    @sambecker23 4 года назад +106

    You always present these so professionally, even when they're controversial. My parents lived and worked in Oklahoma City. My dad worked near the Murrah Building and watched the bodies of children pulled out from his office window. He still won't talk about it.

    • @MikeHunt-rz4xo
      @MikeHunt-rz4xo Год назад +3

      He does have a wonderful delivery, however he is not without his own personal bias and vitriol.

    • @josefmengele181
      @josefmengele181 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@MikeHunt-rz4xoit's a brit though he gets old real fast

  • @andrewmurray9898
    @andrewmurray9898 Год назад +5

    I respect him for targeting the federal government but he should have went after the politicians. Not a building full of civilians and children.

  • @HeroDark98
    @HeroDark98 5 лет назад +475

    Simon Whistler: RUclips's Nicest Reuploader

    • @frogglen6350
      @frogglen6350 5 лет назад +8

      Yeah

    • @ddm3125
      @ddm3125 5 лет назад +1

      Aku Fan, best handle ever!

    • @Parnell07
      @Parnell07 5 лет назад +9

      The internet’s most polite upside down head.

    • @insertname717
      @insertname717 4 года назад

      When has he reuploaded a video?
      EDIT: Just read the comment nevermind.

    • @gregerfulgerman7802
      @gregerfulgerman7802 4 года назад +2

      Insert_ _Name I still don’t get it lol could you explain

  • @nadirimyers6643
    @nadirimyers6643 4 года назад +66

    “The great big book of suburban misery”.... can I get that on amazon or...

    • @claudetteholloway1126
      @claudetteholloway1126 4 года назад +1

      Nadiri Myers Me three...

    • @mho...
      @mho... 4 года назад +1

      sounds like a book begging to be writen!!!

    • @snodrod420
      @snodrod420 3 года назад +3

      How does this Brit know our American suburban misery so well lol...
      Well i imagine suburban misery is found everywhere you find a suburb lol

    • @nomoremr.niceguy4778
      @nomoremr.niceguy4778 3 года назад

      Simon is right. All around my property is every episode of The Young & The Restless. Live and in color.

  • @NHawthorne
    @NHawthorne 3 года назад +23

    “I could do better” I’ll remember that quote next time I visit the irs building

  • @ZombieRommel
    @ZombieRommel 5 лет назад +8

    Thanks for doing these. Often-times we only hear about the horror of the atrocities committed by these monsters but their lives are never elucidated. We never know what perverted them into what they became.

  • @andrewpytko4773
    @andrewpytko4773 3 года назад +48

    Ironic. If he had blown up FBI headquarters in Texas, he'd have been seen as avenging Waco.

    • @samuelademeso9041
      @samuelademeso9041 3 года назад +9

      Well Ironically he was too much of a coward to do that

    • @brandonmaddox4862
      @brandonmaddox4862 3 года назад +2

      Obviously you don’t know Texans that well

  • @nagiaoe2434
    @nagiaoe2434 Год назад +13

    He was based

  • @tso8174
    @tso8174 2 года назад +61

    He definitely changed more lives than just the 168 people he killed. Imagine all their families. Imagine his family. Imagine the communities that he destroyed.

    • @at9670
      @at9670 2 года назад +40

      That should tell you a lot... Just imagine all the families the US government ruined when they unleashed their dogs and invaded their countries.

    • @KneeoGeeo
      @KneeoGeeo 2 года назад +9

      @@at9670 bingo

    • @shasmi93
      @shasmi93 Год назад

      Imagine how many more lives in people he’s changed to open their eyes and wake up and see how corrupt our government has become…. It works both ways.

    • @theocean2698
      @theocean2698 Год назад +9

      ​@@at9670 Mcveigh wasnt Anti stablisment , he just was frustrated that us government wasnt most racist.

    • @theepicduck6922
      @theepicduck6922 9 месяцев назад +3

      @theocean2698 Yep he worshipped the Turner diaries above all.

  • @lizaward7679
    @lizaward7679 5 лет назад +8

    I remember watching all of these events unfold as a kid. As disturbing now as it was then.

  • @matenjor
    @matenjor 8 месяцев назад +4

    Im Reading the Turner diaries right now

  • @952alx
    @952alx 2 года назад +30

    My aunts were both PD during the time of this, One being an officer on scene and my other was a forensic expert, she identified about 80% of the victims including the little girl in the very known photo of the firefighter holding the child, it changed both of them for life

  • @frasermackenzie7275
    @frasermackenzie7275 2 года назад +3

    "Hitler would gobble up for his Nazi breakfast" ... Now that is a very great visual explanation 👏

  • @ultimatetadpole9607
    @ultimatetadpole9607 5 лет назад +5

    If you hate the government. Why would you join the army?

    • @datniggachancehtx1207
      @datniggachancehtx1207 5 лет назад +4

      Training. Know your enemy.

    • @TheNightWatcher1385
      @TheNightWatcher1385 5 лет назад +2

      Violent people often join the army because their life is chaotic and they’re seeking structure.

    • @oranguman8606
      @oranguman8606 3 года назад

      @@TheNightWatcher1385 Its just called being a man

  • @joshuapatrick682
    @joshuapatrick682 5 лет назад +57

    It’s hard not to see conspiracies when the government acts so secretly about how it deals with “the terror”

  • @hoss2060
    @hoss2060 4 года назад +8

    I was born in OKC and grew up like 15 minutes away. my parents were both paramedics at the time of the bombing and went to the city to relieve first responders that had been working for hours on end

  • @robswystun2766
    @robswystun2766 3 года назад +6

    "But, this isn't a happier world."
    - Simon Whistler

  • @elizabethford7263
    @elizabethford7263 4 года назад +8

    I grew up about 15 miles down the road from McVeigh. It's too easy to see how he became isolated and radicalized. It's impossible to hear Pendleton or Starpoint (his high school) without thinking about all those people he killed and injured.

  • @OkieRCguy
    @OkieRCguy 5 лет назад +33

    I admit that I have a personal connection to this story. First, I was working about 35 miles East of OKC on April 19th and the crew I was working with and myself heard the blast. I was also an officer with the Perry Police Department and personally know and have worked with now Sheriff Charlie Hanger. He is well respected, and a total professional. I have also been friends with his wife, Nancy for over 40 years. In the photo of McVeigh being led out of the Noble County courthouse, the man with the dark hair and mustache is Lt. Wayne Powell. He and I also worked together on the Perry P.D.

    • @shasmi93
      @shasmi93 Год назад

      F the police. Government too.

  • @schylarherrin7486
    @schylarherrin7486 3 года назад

    I love you guys, thank you for the channel. I was sick in bed the last 3 days and I've literally watched nothing else. Time well spent.

  • @Jaderabbit3485
    @Jaderabbit3485 4 года назад +4

    Did not expect this episode to start with my birthday O.o

  • @jobanh7ify
    @jobanh7ify 5 лет назад +201

    Re upload?... re “like” and re comment...
    Great video again Simon!

    • @lucignolo8333
      @lucignolo8333 5 лет назад +1

      jobanh7ify grat kilzone pic dude

    • @jobanh7ify
      @jobanh7ify 5 лет назад +1

      Thanks man! I’m waiting for a next gen remake lol

    • @lucignolo8333
      @lucignolo8333 5 лет назад

      yeah me too, killzone 1 and 2 were fucking masterpieces, 3 was good and shadow fall was disappointing af, killzone 2 looked so gritty and realistic

  • @StevenLeoKorell
    @StevenLeoKorell 4 года назад +27

    Struck a chord with that one, Simon!
    I was there, lost my aunt Terry, and later my uncle Bob. Heck, my other uncle Mike ran the Olympic torch to the bomb site in their honor in 1996. Needless to say, this subject touches me.
    Just gotta say, you guys covered that well. Really appreciate the attention to detail.
    Thank you.

    • @whatservicetojoin8593
      @whatservicetojoin8593 3 года назад

      Here's an interesting concept - theoretically - *if* MDA had existed back in 1995 - & then Tim wood have had the opportunity to eliminate hundreds of Redcoats - with no civilian losses - he wood have done that & left the Murrah building alone ! You thoughts ?

  • @nicholaspayne349
    @nicholaspayne349 3 года назад +29

    My dad was in the marine corps with Mcveigh. Told me he had beers with him on leave before they both were honorably discharged.
    I lived in perry for half of my life and now reside in Stillwater Oklahoma about 25 miles away.
    The fbi interrogated my dad following the okc bombing though he had nothing to do with it. I assume most of his peers from the corps were also... crazy stuff!

    • @bfg5291
      @bfg5291 Год назад +2

      McVeigh was army, not marines.

    • @anthonydixon4636
      @anthonydixon4636 Год назад +1

      Why lie to be kinda connected to this guy??? Army and the Marines are two different things. So there’s actually no way that your dad was in the marine corps with Timothy because he was In the army..u see?

    • @shawnnewell4541
      @shawnnewell4541 Год назад +5

      Marines and Army folk do hang out together at bars if they are near where they're based. So this guy may not be lying.

  • @tobe2854
    @tobe2854 4 года назад +31

    "The kind of book Hitlet would've gobbled up for his Nazi breakfast."
    😂😂😂

    • @camogrrl
      @camogrrl 4 года назад +4

      Restless Guitarist don’t you have spell check? Are you unable to cast your eye over 13 measley words Before hitting enter?

    • @bnbcraft6666
      @bnbcraft6666 4 года назад +3

      Would his Nazi breakfast be swastika shaped pancakes and egg whites 😂

  • @ryanrscp1
    @ryanrscp1 5 лет назад +35

    "debate still rages about who started the fire"...........well, someone is very informed on the subject.

    • @mwellnow5016
      @mwellnow5016 5 лет назад +24

      From what I remember the FBI claimed that the fundies started the fire, but later were forced to admit they had deployed incendiary grenades or something of the sort (after claiming they hadn't)

    • @UwU-235
      @UwU-235 3 года назад

      @@mwellnow5016 it was military tear gas that they originally claimed they didn’t use but actually did but examination of the gas cartridges shows that the cartridges didn’t start the fire.

  • @WilliamBrinkley45
    @WilliamBrinkley45 Год назад +10

    Knowing what we know now about what really happened at Waco and Ruby Ridge, he was right to be angry…..but the way he went about it was pure evil and made him an even bigger monster and murderer than those he was angry at.

  • @williamschwab7103
    @williamschwab7103 Год назад +2

    I grew up near Lockport his hometown. In high school, I remember a reporter who actually came in and talked to us about how he got to interview Timothy and his parents. Just hearing the story was genuinely astonishing.

  • @patriotHannibal
    @patriotHannibal 4 года назад +11

    Ruby Ridge: He was cooerced to sell a totally legal shotgun to a BATFE agent. Who then asked him to "saw off" the barrel of the weapon in a spot of the BATFE agents chosing (the weapons charge: half an inch too short according to the NFA of 1934). The agent was never held accountable, even though it was one of the clearest cases of entrapment ever accounted by a government agent.

  • @bobthompson4319
    @bobthompson4319 5 лет назад +29

    Off topic. But that pic of Paul revere looks so much like jack black lol.

  • @JenWith1N
    @JenWith1N 2 года назад +6

    Timothy grew up 10 min from my town. I was a senior in high school when he killed all those people. It rocked our community. Our high schools were rivals and many ppl knew and were friends and family with those in Pendleton.

    • @johnhauk2885
      @johnhauk2885 Год назад +1

      I grew up just south of Pendleton. I remember watching it on TV when I was 13

  • @AshelinFox
    @AshelinFox 4 года назад +2

    We moved to Waco before my brother was born. We returned to OKC not long after and I was 4 when the Murrah Building was bombed. I don't remember any of the events as they happened (do you really expect someone that young to even understand what was happening?), but I remember McVeigh's death very well, as that's all my classmates talked about. It was years later that I learned of who I almost lost in the bombing. And to this day, my grandmothers cannot go near the memorial.
    If you ever find yourself in OKC, at a minimum visit the memorial. The museum is very well done, and I highly recommend visiting it as well. For those who work in the area, it's easy to walk by, but I know there are many like me who always experience a mood change when passing.
    April 19th was the 25th anniversary of the bombing.

  • @rodneyhill5960
    @rodneyhill5960 4 года назад +48

    I am all for preppers and second amendment advocates because I am one. That being said I'm for being ready if catastrophe comes to you but don't be the catastrophe yourself. He had no reason to do what he did. He became everything we advocate against.

    • @bananatree5654
      @bananatree5654 4 года назад +1

      rodney hill I’m not a prepper and I’m for gun reform, so it’s interesting to see your opinion on this, thank you!

    • @folbykleetwood7462
      @folbykleetwood7462 4 года назад

      @@baronvonslambert then I better hope I draw first

    • @sorrybook4207
      @sorrybook4207 3 года назад

      I agree, everyone should be prepared for anything that could possibly happen. Even in anperhaps unlikely situation as the government becoming tyrannical and attempting to take firearms, this seems more possible everyday. However most people who do this are law abiding and proud people. The belief that those who people who have weapons for defense and domestic terrorist are in anyway connected is false and misguided.

    • @brimonkmonk8212
      @brimonkmonk8212 3 года назад +1

      I agree. It was so senseless

    • @agentsquid9079
      @agentsquid9079 3 года назад +1

      Guns are suppose to be used for defense. The people who follow 2nd Amendment rights must be honorable and will resort to guns as the last possible option.
      People who use guns for an act of offense or threatening others isn’t honorable, for example, militia’s showing up to protests threatening to shoot, criminals robbing others or insane people who plans on using it for a mass shooting must never be allowed to hold them ever again, even if that means permanently.

  • @incadesentcat5852
    @incadesentcat5852 5 лет назад +9

    Idk about the rest but ANFO mixtures aren't "highly unstable" like you've suggested. they are actually really safe to handle and can be difficult to get to detonate.

  • @jasonfedeli
    @jasonfedeli 5 лет назад +88

    How many kids did the atf kill...let's not forget those jags.

    • @garretth8224
      @garretth8224 5 лет назад +22

      You mean the fire? Not the ATF. All they had to do was come out unarmed during the fire. If they had surrendered earlier it wouldn't have happened to begin with. You nutters always think the govt is evil and all at fault. While ignoring the actions of all parties involved. Fucking retards. McVeigh killed a bunch of kids too.

    • @garoscar2695
      @garoscar2695 4 года назад +16

      so you justify the killing of more kids to counter what the government did?

    • @prof2yousmithe444
      @prof2yousmithe444 4 года назад +1

      Jason Fedeli funny thing. If these parents didn’t participate in illegal activity those children would still be alive. Just saying.

    • @luizeduardo1375
      @luizeduardo1375 4 года назад +5

      @The Reverend Jim Jones Yeah I don;t believe that in the slightest. What is more likely to happen. A crazy gun lover setting fire so ATF wouldn'y take them alive and killing all of those kids or actual multiple cops deciding to become mass kids murderers? The answer should be more than obvious.

    • @m14lvr
      @m14lvr 4 года назад +2

      @@luizeduardo1375 I agreed with you for years. Then I saw the badge cam footage from the FBI at the Bundy ranch in Nevada when that thing was going on. After hearing multiple officers laughing about killing unarmed civilians and wishing they would climb a fence so they can mow down unarmed people I don't know anymore. We will never know what happened that day but I do know there are many law enforcement officers that would love to kill civilians given the chance.

  • @adamwhite3584
    @adamwhite3584 4 года назад +10

    I applaud this chaps ability to be surprisingly impartial given relevant and legitimate cultural differences with Americans and our values. Our love for weaponry is unique.

    • @Jiff321
      @Jiff321 Год назад +1

      Not really. It’s just unique for white people to love. Africa and Middle East put us to shame lol

    • @Infinitystar225
      @Infinitystar225 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@jeffv237 It's not a white person thing, as a Brit I can say we are not pro-gun

  • @BadSodaProductions
    @BadSodaProductions 3 года назад +3

    I appreciate your channel so much for being a Brit commenting on American history and politics without any air of pretentiousness or condescension. Such a breath of fresh air.

    • @81iand
      @81iand 2 года назад +2

      If you don’t hear his condescending nature in his videos, you’re deaf

  • @sbeckett91
    @sbeckett91 5 лет назад +4

    9:31 That agent was really calm considering how close he was to getting smoked

  • @zebulundelgadillo4851
    @zebulundelgadillo4851 5 лет назад +83

    Listening to these audio biographies, I’ve learned more than my history teacher taught me

    • @samuelskogqvist5565
      @samuelskogqvist5565 4 года назад +5

      Dude... the bald hipster is a biased leftist. Don't believe everything he says.

    • @j.a.weishaupt1748
      @j.a.weishaupt1748 4 года назад +10

      Samuel Skogqvist The f*ck is wrong with you? Why would you say something like that?

    • @paulheap1982
      @paulheap1982 4 года назад +8

      @@j.a.weishaupt1748 cause he's one of those who feels the need to attack others who done tell him what he want to hear.

    • @delete--5563
      @delete--5563 3 года назад

      @@samuelskogqvist5565 Oh shut your mouth.

    • @fairplayjay
      @fairplayjay 3 года назад

      @@samuelskogqvist5565 He is providing factual biographies. Did you wake up so upset?

  • @JH-gb7gq
    @JH-gb7gq 4 года назад

    Very nice, concise

  • @yunosocrazy1373
    @yunosocrazy1373 2 года назад +2

    That intro was captivating.

  • @jaxhertz5772
    @jaxhertz5772 5 лет назад +70

    Can you do a biographic on Stanley Kubrick?

  • @ryanherrmann5965
    @ryanherrmann5965 3 года назад +9

    At least according to some of my family members who went to school with him including my dad who was in the same class as McVeigh was anything but a "loner and bullied kid" in fact he was the exact opposite and was the one doing the bullying and was one of those kind of kids who tried to "fit it" and be "popular" so he had friends.

  • @reaganstanczak5293
    @reaganstanczak5293 4 года назад +9

    Great video, man! I love the way you explain things. You keep things interesting the entire time without ever leaving a dull moment. Keep it up, dude. Can't wait to come home from work later and watch more of your stuff.

  • @obiwankenobi5585
    @obiwankenobi5585 3 года назад +2

    This man is no hero in fact you morally did John Wilkes Booth

  • @ynotdrewans4957
    @ynotdrewans4957 4 года назад +28

    That's not how Vicky was shot, listen to the interview of the shooter. He shot her out of revenge.

  • @Wisconsin_Local_139_Crane_Guy
    @Wisconsin_Local_139_Crane_Guy 3 года назад +4

    Your stuff is almost always depressing as hell. But I’m a history buff and you do a great job!

  • @GOJOWrestling
    @GOJOWrestling 2 года назад +3

    The sniper killed innocent people.

  • @Jack777760
    @Jack777760 4 года назад

    How did we exist before "toptenzet". Keep up the incredible good work.

  • @dicktation_4769
    @dicktation_4769 4 года назад +4

    “Well, yeah.”
    Lol.

  • @lorigoldesberry2438
    @lorigoldesberry2438 3 года назад +4

    I remember this well, was brushing my teeth in the bathroom of my home 2 hours drive time from OKC, my home shook it literally shook I thought it was an earthquake. Once I had the television on and figured out what caused my home to shake my only concern was contacting my aunt to be certain she was ok, as she lived much closer to the bombing location than I. She was/is ok. Still a horrifying day for Oklahoman's

  • @claudettes9697
    @claudettes9697 Год назад +1

    Whenever they say a date I think of how old I was when something happened and it always make me feel so small. Every single person who died or was wounded, this young man at war, the whole gd thing.

  • @jinxkhoche
    @jinxkhoche 4 года назад

    Your narration is impressive!

  • @3EBstudio
    @3EBstudio 4 года назад +8

    Hello Simon, wondering with admiration ....Do you read your intros out loud before filming and going over the edits... ???

  • @Abbeville_Kid
    @Abbeville_Kid 4 года назад +6

    When they reported his last meal, I remember thinking about what a waste it all was. In the end, they were dead, he was dead, and two empty pints of mint chocolate chip was all to show for it.

    • @patmullarkey7659
      @patmullarkey7659 3 года назад +3

      There's something very Twilight Zone about that observation ....

  • @neosav7476
    @neosav7476 2 года назад +2

    Dr. William Luther Pierce was a great man

  • @amymargarethowe
    @amymargarethowe 4 года назад +1

    My fiancé was a few blocks away at daycare in OKC when the bomb went off (he was 5 at the time) He remembers a big muffled thud and then all the windows breaking before his mom quickly rushed over from work to take him home. I grew up in Tulsa (I was 4), and I vividly remember watching the local news when it happened.

  • @mdedes9891
    @mdedes9891 4 года назад +15

    Anything 'September' scares me now. Think I'm going to stay home the entire month. Lol

  • @runawaysparklers622
    @runawaysparklers622 3 года назад +22

    I grew up in Oklahoma. My mom told me that the day before the bombing happened, she and my dad had a fight because she hadn't gotten her last name legally changed yet after she got married. She went to her P.O box that morning to get her birth certificate, but forgot her key. That may be the only reason me or my sister were ever born at all.

  • @RB01.10
    @RB01.10 2 года назад +2

    Crazy to think I was only three months old when this happened.
    RIP to all those who died though,
    especially those children 😢

  • @jackhamilton9604
    @jackhamilton9604 3 года назад +3

    Love the music at 4:30 15:40 and 23:02 can someone tell me where I can listen to it on its own?

  • @maryethequene240
    @maryethequene240 3 года назад +6

    One thing you forgot. The sniper who killed Weaver’s wife was also at Waco. This set McVeigh off.

  • @lolzhammer8281
    @lolzhammer8281 4 года назад +11

    I was serving in the Army when he hit that bldg. All the damned media could talk about was the fact that he was ex-military... I'll never forget the skittish way the civilians in Anchorage, who we normally got along with quite well, acted towards us for weeks afterwards. Like they thought any one of us might go similarly postal at any moment. What he did was unexcusable, but the way those "journalists" fed off it was just as bad. In hindsight, it seems a dress rehearsal for the way they act today.

    • @Hans-yo2cq
      @Hans-yo2cq Год назад +1

      uh yeah i think the fear is understandable though, the fact 3 men were able to do something that drastic really makes you realize how vulnerable you are around others

    • @MadameWesker
      @MadameWesker Год назад +1

      And they don't exactly look out for your mental health once they cut you loose. My late husband was a corpsman and I wish he would've got the help he needed.

    • @Hans-yo2cq
      @Hans-yo2cq Год назад

      @@MadameWesker this is so unbearably terrible. I'm sorry for your loss and hope you're doing well.

  • @mechagear4819
    @mechagear4819 4 года назад +11

    His sister teaches at my brothers middle school

    • @jenniferknight1511
      @jenniferknight1511 4 года назад +3

      No way would I let her teach my child. She always supported her brother!!

    • @whatservicetojoin8593
      @whatservicetojoin8593 3 года назад

      Tell her I'm a person who knows the truth about how her brother is a hero ! I'd luv to communicate with her ! whatservicetojoin over in gmail !

    • @iangallagher4135
      @iangallagher4135 3 года назад +1

      @@whatservicetojoin8593 how is he a hero?

    • @TheSWCantina
      @TheSWCantina 3 года назад +2

      @@iangallagher4135 man, I've watched multiple videos on this topic and there is countless nuts out there that think he is. The biggest conspiracy among them was he knew about 9/11 and framed him and executed him just before it happened. Lots of crazy crap like that.

  • @NDTexan
    @NDTexan 4 года назад +1

    The story of trooper hanger catching McVeigh all because of a simple traffic stop for no plates always fascinates me.
    You should do an episode on James hodgkinson and Bill Ayers

  • @JEM1989
    @JEM1989 4 года назад +5

    I lived in Oklahoma when this happened, I was Very young and it was terrifying

  • @johnmoran4469
    @johnmoran4469 3 года назад +11

    You should do Ruby Ridge. That was a mess.

  • @iBMcFly
    @iBMcFly Год назад +2

    An expedited execution always raised more questions as far as I’m concerned.

  • @jenniferjackson2850
    @jenniferjackson2850 4 года назад

    Good commentary.

  • @davidstone9154
    @davidstone9154 Год назад +6

    You can NEVER forget, forgive, or justify the killing of the innocent, and certainly not the killing of children!! What happened at Waco and Ruby Ridge were tragedies, and so was what McVeigh did in OKC; an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.

  • @MBkufel
    @MBkufel 5 лет назад +5

    ANFO isn't unstable. It's safe for an explosive and it is used in some types of minig applications all over the world.

    • @hateislove3947
      @hateislove3947 5 лет назад +1

      ANFO is super stable. You can throw it in to a fire, smack it with sledgehammer, won't blow up.

  • @walterwhite2244
    @walterwhite2244 Год назад +2

    This narrator is purging his own childhood through Tim.

  • @TheNightCap
    @TheNightCap 4 года назад

    How can I contact you?