Oh man I thought I was losing it. Like how did I see this video without it being out already. Really made me feel crazy for a minute there guys. Great content hope it doesn't affect the views on this video too much. Keep up the great videos!
@@Biographics Just watched the Sinatra episode and I really hope you'll do Woodie Guthrie one day. I doubt it's a common request though, so I'd settle on Kurt Cobain ^^
I grew up in Oklahoma City, and I can remember seeing the glass windows in my math class violently shake due to the shock wave that came after the detonation of the bomb. After the news broke about the cause, I waited along with other kids who had a parent who worked in the downtown area, huddled in front of television sets, to hear of more details, and for some to hope we could see our parent(s) walk by the cameras. That day, in middle school was the first time I realized my parents were mortal, truly realized the tradegy that my parents could and would die some day. I'm one of the lucky... my father wasn't hurt. But many didn't get that set of news. I'm proud to be an "Okie!", and prouder yet to see what we created from rubble. If anyone is interested, look up the survivor tree... And how we honored it.
My wife has cousins in OKC, and visiting them over the years I had the opportunity to see the construction of the memorial on the site of the Murrah Building. It is beautiful and heart wrenching - though the notes, pictures, shoes, license plates, etc. tied onto the construction fence while the memorial was being built were what brought me to tears.
I also grew up in OKC. I was in my 5th grade class reading "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn" when I heard the explosion. My mother and sister had been downtown that morning, and had gotten away only minutes before the bomb went off.
proud to be an Okie?? what does that means. i am not an Okie. so should i write that i am proud not to be an Okie? or is it something like i am proud to be male?
Thank you so much for sharing your memories of that experience. I had an extremely similar experience during the we'll trade center 9/11 attack in NYC and my heart went up it to my throat in empathy while reading your story.
Ruby Ridge and Waco were super messed up. The guy from Ruby Ridge who missed his court date was given the wrong date in his summons, and had been tricked into breaking the law by the ATF to begin with when an informant asked him to shorten the barrel of a gun just a tiny bit under what was legal under the pretense that it was for a child.
I remember reading " A guy drove up on a motorcycle and told man @ cabin ; l'll pay you $100.00 for every sawed off shotgun barrel you ...alter..." Rolling Stone Mag....?
Both were handled by blood thirsty animals. I am not condoning what David K did at all with young girls. I believe both incidents could have been dealt with better than what took place. It’s all so tragic.
@@barbaragarb9453 Um entrapment is , lazy Cops - Detective s trying for an arrest with faux FBook page.... Entrapment is all the rage....right now...all over the web. Host Sites m u s t know it's going on. We can't get oversight on BIG things...like corrupt NIS officials....so entrapment practice is might as well be .........Law Of The Land..........
I was working in Tulsa, OK when I got news of the bombing and location. My Father had an appointment at 9:00 a.m. at the Social Security office at eve Murragh building. I was frantically trying to call and all the lines were jammed. No one worked the rest of that day. We just were glued to the TV. I finally got hold of my Dad, he didn’t go to the meeting. If he had, he would have been among the victims. I am so proud of Oklahomans. The first responders and crew never paid a penny for anything. Hot meals were brought to them. Soda. Snacks. Candy bars. You name it, it was provided. Our doctors and nurses came from all over the State. They heard the news and got in a car to help. The Oklahoma City memorial is lovely and honors the lives lost.
An interesting concept - theoretically - if MDA had existed back in 1995 - & then Tim wood have had the opportunity to eliminate hundreds of Redcoats - with no civilian losses - he wood have done that & left the Murrah building alone ! Your thoughts ?
I worked for SSA in that building and was in the supply stockroom that morning. Had I been at my desk at the reception area I would have died. We lost the majority of our visitors in the reception area. I won’t go into the awful details of my experience but be very glad your dad wasn’t there. I lost most of my unit that morning, many friends and a great supervisor. Our office was directly underneath the daycare. Awful, awful day.
I was there when it happened. I was in the 3rd grade. My mother was acting coroner for the state, and my father was a structural engineer, who was on the survey team that built the Murrah building. My mom came in to collect bodies, my dad was there to tell what places of the wreckage were safe to walk on and what would collapse under too much weight. The dogs they used to find survivors were getting depressed and giving up because they weren't finding anyone alive anymore. People, myself inclided, had to crawl inside and cry out so that the dogs would find living people so that they would be motivated to work again. At the memorial there's the "Survivors Tree". Under that tree is an Indian head penny, because my dad used to park his Indian motorcycle under that tree when he helped build that building.
Here's an interesting concept - theoretically - *if* MDA had existed back in 1995 - & then Tim wood have had the opportunity to eliminate hundreds of Redcoats - with no civilian losses - he wood have done that & left the Murrah building alone ! You thoughts ?
Those poor dogs. Imagine such loving creatures being depressed that they can't fulfill their jobs? Animals can suffer ptsd as well as humans. Hoping they went on to loving homes afterwards and spent the rest of their days chasing Frisbees, eating home cooked meals a few times a week, and being pet/cuddled to help them get restful sleep. Plus their own furniture to take a break from being a dog too. Those brave canines. You're also brave for giving those heroes motivation to keep working too.
Actually they tried to contact him multiple times, directly and through his lawyers. He refused to talk to both the government when called, his lawyer and they even informed nearby neighbors.
@Old Iron His child shot at US Marshalls ? Secondly his wife was shot in the head through a door. I doubt they were using infrared scopes. Anymore excuses for criminals committing murder and then dying for it ?
@Old Iron Yes, they did identify themselves as marshals, you could easily look up this information. They shot where the target is going, i.e. leading the target. Furthermore, while an ifrared scope doesn't differentiate targets it does allow you to see if there is a heat signature behind a door (i.e. a human being). The family killed a U.S. marshall do you think they were just going to walk away from it with no issues? If you do then you are naive. The U.S. government didn't own slaves, which makes your slavery argument irrelevant? Do you have any more ad-hoc fallacies you want to throw out? You know what would have solved this, I can tell you surrendering to the government for a crime you've been indicted for, he could have had due process yet chose not to do so and it cost lives in the process on both sides.
y'all have been watching too many movies... Infrared scopes can't even see through glass (they only see the temp of the glass...or anything else) & they damn sure can't see through walls & doors.
Lee Harvey Oswald was also caught pretty quick. How does someone plan a crime like this and then leave the scene with an upside down and drive on a highway
Swity In D12 is named after him too, coincidence? I think not but Sheeple. Back to the Em thing? Meh, you seen one white dude that didn’t get enough cuddles from Mummy you’ve seen em all.
It's worth noting that Randy Weaver only missed that court date because he was told it was a month later, so either a miscommunication or a typo set that off
It’s like a super extreme version of if you have drugs make sure the drugs are the only thing illegal you are doing. You wouldn’t drive 95 with a pound of weed in your car but this dude drives without a license plate after committing terrorism 🤔
@@wannabeaussie5809 To be fair the only similarity was that lovecraft was racist. I don't think he was anti-gov to the extent of wanting to mercilessly kill other people with explosives.
I’m from Oklahoma, born and raised, just a year after the bombing. Growing up, this was something you learned about very early on if you weren’t alive to experience it. Everyone has a story of where they were when they felt the explosion, my parents worked in Norman about 25 minutes south of the building and felt the windows of the dealership shake. No one knew what had happened, they just knew they needed to turn on the television. Now, I work 5 min. from the memorial, I drive by it all the time and see the fence where people leave plush toys, photos, and cards so we never forget the lives lost. All that being said, I’ve only walked the grounds of the building, but have never been inside the museum.
@JcJ * yeah, well. Then russians were right to make carpet bombings in Chechnya in '94 and Israel was right to bomb Lebanon pretty much every year from 1983 to 1990 and from 2006 to 2007? Defending their own nations from separatists and islamic fanatics)
@@user-ur8hl8lr7q Its not what Weaver/Koresh did, Its how bad it was handled, and they were both handled, at sometime by the same ATF/FBI agent... I forgot his name darn
@@user-ur8hl8lr7q Running at policemen with guns... Nobody deserves to be killed this way, yet I highly doubt many who say this would apply the same standards of someone deserving to be shot to the high death rate of afro-americans when encountering police. Kind of smells of hippocracy.
I sense a "creepy cartoon theory" creepypasta in the works here. One that will finally put the "Ash in a coma" and "Angelica is hallucinating Rugrats" ones to shame!
Brian Odell what do you understand? He was socially isolated, disillusioned and a loner, and he committed a terrible act of violence against people who weren’t his enemy
The same sniper that killed the mother and feeding child at Ruby Ridge was the same one who fired shots at Waco. He claimed that he had not fired a round but it was later found out that he had shot at least 3 rounds because 3 spent .308 shells were lying on the floor near his rifle.
It's almost like domestic terrorism, despite being horrific and something to be abhorred, is an immune response to an irresponsible and corrupt government.
@@Muhmawmehmaw But they stopped, did they not? While it's awful, he danced the same dance the government continues to play to this day. He's no different than a pilot dropping a bomb.
You always present these so professionally, even when they're controversial. My parents lived and worked in Oklahoma City. My dad worked near the Murrah Building and watched the bodies of children pulled out from his office window. He still won't talk about it.
The greatest villains always has a reason for their insanity, and sometimes quite arguably even some logic behind it. It's just that their plan has too much collateral damage and hurts innocent lives.
Anko 122 you make a very good point. Too often, we have simplistic views of people who are reviled as villains and people who are celebrated as heroes. We need to remember that people are remembered by history are just as complex as the rest of us.
@Spaalone Babagus that's probably true (although I've never seen anyone argue why the bombing of Dresden was necessary), but its horrifying that you say this of a neo-nazi terrorist whose main long term goal, as explained in the turner diaries, was the murder of most people on earth.
20:15 - calling children 'collateral damage' is as disgusting as it sounds. He however, is just mimicking the US Army that calls any civilian casualties 'collateral damage'. Just another way of dehumanising people.
Amazing how detailed your videos are despite the length. I remember working in a regional trauma center in Ft. Smith, AR when this happened. Oddly enough, I was in Terre Haute, IN adjacent to the prison he was executed.
I think that the tragic and awful events of the Waco and Ruby Ridge and the slap on the wrist that the FBI and ATF agents got that led to this tragic and awful bombing is just an example of circular violence.
didn't help but don't bother playing devil's advocate for a homicidal psychopath or for a bunch of meth zombies who think their guns are more important than their children. it's a childish and stupid philosophy and only an idiot subscribes to it.
i also think when his grandfather died he died mentally, but that’s just me being able to look into the camera as you’re slowly dying while people pay to watch it and then still glaring at it post death is on a different level
If he had detonated the bomb at the ATF, FBI or IRS headquarters and not hurt any children in the process feel the public would of taken it very differently.
I admit that I have a personal connection to this story. First, I was working about 35 miles East of OKC on April 19th and the crew I was working with and myself heard the blast. I was also an officer with the Perry Police Department and personally know and have worked with now Sheriff Charlie Hanger. He is well respected, and a total professional. I have also been friends with his wife, Nancy for over 40 years. In the photo of McVeigh being led out of the Noble County courthouse, the man with the dark hair and mustache is Lt. Wayne Powell. He and I also worked together on the Perry P.D.
He definitely changed more lives than just the 168 people he killed. Imagine all their families. Imagine his family. Imagine the communities that he destroyed.
My aunts were both PD during the time of this, One being an officer on scene and my other was a forensic expert, she identified about 80% of the victims including the little girl in the very known photo of the firefighter holding the child, it changed both of them for life
My dad was in the marine corps with Mcveigh. Told me he had beers with him on leave before they both were honorably discharged. I lived in perry for half of my life and now reside in Stillwater Oklahoma about 25 miles away. The fbi interrogated my dad following the okc bombing though he had nothing to do with it. I assume most of his peers from the corps were also... crazy stuff!
Why lie to be kinda connected to this guy??? Army and the Marines are two different things. So there’s actually no way that your dad was in the marine corps with Timothy because he was In the army..u see?
I was born in OKC and grew up like 15 minutes away. my parents were both paramedics at the time of the bombing and went to the city to relieve first responders that had been working for hours on end
I appreciate your channel so much for being a Brit commenting on American history and politics without any air of pretentiousness or condescension. Such a breath of fresh air.
I grew up about 15 miles down the road from McVeigh. It's too easy to see how he became isolated and radicalized. It's impossible to hear Pendleton or Starpoint (his high school) without thinking about all those people he killed and injured.
1:15 - Chapter 1 - Early life (A murderer is born) 4:35 - Chapter 2 - A soldier's life (Death in the desert) 7:30 - Chapter 3 - Ruby ridge & waco (Can we trust the government ?) 10:50 - Chapter 4 - Before the bombing (The last days of peace) 15:45 - Chapter 5 - 04/19/1995 (The bomb explodes) 19:15 - Chapter 6 - Aftermath
Ruby Ridge: He was cooerced to sell a totally legal shotgun to a BATFE agent. Who then asked him to "saw off" the barrel of the weapon in a spot of the BATFE agents chosing (the weapons charge: half an inch too short according to the NFA of 1934). The agent was never held accountable, even though it was one of the clearest cases of entrapment ever accounted by a government agent.
Struck a chord with that one, Simon! I was there, lost my aunt Terry, and later my uncle Bob. Heck, my other uncle Mike ran the Olympic torch to the bomb site in their honor in 1996. Needless to say, this subject touches me. Just gotta say, you guys covered that well. Really appreciate the attention to detail. Thank you.
Here's an interesting concept - theoretically - *if* MDA had existed back in 1995 - & then Tim wood have had the opportunity to eliminate hundreds of Redcoats - with no civilian losses - he wood have done that & left the Murrah building alone ! You thoughts ?
Thanks for doing these. Often-times we only hear about the horror of the atrocities committed by these monsters but their lives are never elucidated. We never know what perverted them into what they became.
Timothy grew up 10 min from my town. I was a senior in high school when he killed all those people. It rocked our community. Our high schools were rivals and many ppl knew and were friends and family with those in Pendleton.
We moved to Waco before my brother was born. We returned to OKC not long after and I was 4 when the Murrah Building was bombed. I don't remember any of the events as they happened (do you really expect someone that young to even understand what was happening?), but I remember McVeigh's death very well, as that's all my classmates talked about. It was years later that I learned of who I almost lost in the bombing. And to this day, my grandmothers cannot go near the memorial. If you ever find yourself in OKC, at a minimum visit the memorial. The museum is very well done, and I highly recommend visiting it as well. For those who work in the area, it's easy to walk by, but I know there are many like me who always experience a mood change when passing. April 19th was the 25th anniversary of the bombing.
I applaud this chaps ability to be surprisingly impartial given relevant and legitimate cultural differences with Americans and our values. Our love for weaponry is unique.
At least according to some of my family members who went to school with him including my dad who was in the same class as McVeigh was anything but a "loner and bullied kid" in fact he was the exact opposite and was the one doing the bullying and was one of those kind of kids who tried to "fit it" and be "popular" so he had friends.
From what I remember the FBI claimed that the fundies started the fire, but later were forced to admit they had deployed incendiary grenades or something of the sort (after claiming they hadn't)
@@mwellnow5016 it was military tear gas that they originally claimed they didn’t use but actually did but examination of the gas cartridges shows that the cartridges didn’t start the fire.
I am all for preppers and second amendment advocates because I am one. That being said I'm for being ready if catastrophe comes to you but don't be the catastrophe yourself. He had no reason to do what he did. He became everything we advocate against.
I agree, everyone should be prepared for anything that could possibly happen. Even in anperhaps unlikely situation as the government becoming tyrannical and attempting to take firearms, this seems more possible everyday. However most people who do this are law abiding and proud people. The belief that those who people who have weapons for defense and domestic terrorist are in anyway connected is false and misguided.
Guns are suppose to be used for defense. The people who follow 2nd Amendment rights must be honorable and will resort to guns as the last possible option. People who use guns for an act of offense or threatening others isn’t honorable, for example, militia’s showing up to protests threatening to shoot, criminals robbing others or insane people who plans on using it for a mass shooting must never be allowed to hold them ever again, even if that means permanently.
Idk about the rest but ANFO mixtures aren't "highly unstable" like you've suggested. they are actually really safe to handle and can be difficult to get to detonate.
When they reported his last meal, I remember thinking about what a waste it all was. In the end, they were dead, he was dead, and two empty pints of mint chocolate chip was all to show for it.
I remember this well, was brushing my teeth in the bathroom of my home 2 hours drive time from OKC, my home shook it literally shook I thought it was an earthquake. Once I had the television on and figured out what caused my home to shake my only concern was contacting my aunt to be certain she was ok, as she lived much closer to the bombing location than I. She was/is ok. Still a horrifying day for Oklahoman's
I grew up near Lockport his hometown. In high school, I remember a reporter who actually came in and talked to us about how he got to interview Timothy and his parents. Just hearing the story was genuinely astonishing.
Whenever they say a date I think of how old I was when something happened and it always make me feel so small. Every single person who died or was wounded, this young man at war, the whole gd thing.
I was serving in the Army when he hit that bldg. All the damned media could talk about was the fact that he was ex-military... I'll never forget the skittish way the civilians in Anchorage, who we normally got along with quite well, acted towards us for weeks afterwards. Like they thought any one of us might go similarly postal at any moment. What he did was unexcusable, but the way those "journalists" fed off it was just as bad. In hindsight, it seems a dress rehearsal for the way they act today.
uh yeah i think the fear is understandable though, the fact 3 men were able to do something that drastic really makes you realize how vulnerable you are around others
And they don't exactly look out for your mental health once they cut you loose. My late husband was a corpsman and I wish he would've got the help he needed.
Is one thing to hate government, is another to kill innocent people to revenge them. Comments like these make me sick! If one don't like governments politics bring the fight to them. Don't bring it out on bystanders and claim yourself hero doing that.
Great video, man! I love the way you explain things. You keep things interesting the entire time without ever leaving a dull moment. Keep it up, dude. Can't wait to come home from work later and watch more of your stuff.
At 13:44 he's talking about how Timothy McVeigh changed locations because of flowers but had no heart for the children, well in all honesty Timothy McVeigh didn't know about the day care center in the Murrah building. Now he never apologized for his actions, and he did call the children "collateral damage", but in fairness he, Timothy McVeigh, was not aware of the day care center, so really he didn't choose flowers over children, as the narrirator would have you believe, I just think if youre going to speak on a topic, you should get the facts straight. Now.... before anyone attacks me, I am a Proud Oklahoman, born and raised, my husband is a OKC FF, who worked tirelessly day and night at the Murrah building recovering the bodies of those burried under the ruble after this bombing took place and he worked day and night until they were all recovered, never leaving for more and a few hours to sleep a little, he was there until the last one was found, also we lost friends/loved ones that day, 3, to be exact, and one of those was recovered by my husband, she was the last to be found.... so please don't attack me and tell me I have no clue what Im talking about, because clearly I do. but if someone is going to tell a story, about anything, it should be factual, and not meant to fill you with more hate and rage. Thats all i'm trying to say here. Timothy McVeigh committed mass murder. Thats a fact. Children did die, 19 to be exact. That is a fact. But Timothy McVeigh did not choose flowers over children.
That image used at 06.04 was from a piece of film taken on an army base over 1 year after the US government said McVeigh had been discharged. I'm sure they even denied that it was actually McVeigh. Unfortunate choice of stock images guys.
I noticed this too. That image us widely used to indicate McVeigh was "sheep-dipped" and continued working for the military after his "discharge." AFAIK this image is disputed by mainstream sources as not being McVeigh, and just someone that looks like him.
@@stuffnthings4106 Sorry for late reply. Yes, I've seen similar stuff. There have also been forensic experts who have confirmed voice matches to McVeigh based on the film taken by the director Bill Bean. I don't know mate, I'm not attracted to "conspiracy theories" at all but i do like to look at facts. At 50 years old I've also seen enough crazy things turn out to be true.
My fiancé was a few blocks away at daycare in OKC when the bomb went off (he was 5 at the time) He remembers a big muffled thud and then all the windows breaking before his mom quickly rushed over from work to take him home. I grew up in Tulsa (I was 4), and I vividly remember watching the local news when it happened.
I grew up in Oklahoma. My mom told me that the day before the bombing happened, she and my dad had a fight because she hadn't gotten her last name legally changed yet after she got married. She went to her P.O box that morning to get her birth certificate, but forgot her key. That may be the only reason me or my sister were ever born at all.
I remember this I was 17 sitting in the kitchen I lived at home with my adoptive mother before I turned 18was kicked out on October 11th for not kissing her new husband's ass
Can you do a bio on vince McMahon, love to see that one...he went from a trailer park in north carolina, to a multi millionaire owning the largest wrestling company on the planet
I think you're missing a pretty important part. You know, where he inherited the largest wrestling company on Earth? Sorry, he didn't inherit it because that would've meant considerable estate tax, he "bought" it at about 1% of it's value and paid that off with business profits. That's some clever tax evasion.
Mattwesley I just watched a thing about him that said he is a billionaire. It was about all the wrestlers deaths due to injury and painkiller od. And the fact that they’re not employees of the federation but free agents expected to pay their own health insurance med bills and med care, etc. said he didn’t feel any responsibility for them. Didn’t put him in a very positive light. I’m not making a judgmental comment but if he’s a hero of yours you might change your mind if you saw what I watched. His attitude made me feel bad for the permanently injured and dead celebrity wrestlers that helped make him his billions, not just that he consolidated all the different wrestling districts.
I appreciate all your videos however I'd make the suggestion that you mistakenly stated the reason for the US invasion of Kuwait was due to a "humanitarian crisis" when it most likely was to secure lower priced oil exports from a friendly Middle Eastern country. The US has and continues to claim the basis of action is humanitarian when it's really only to secure political and economic benefits.
It’s more than that. By taking Kuwait, Saddam Hussein controlled a full quarter of the world’s oil production at the time, and had he been allowed to invade Saudi Arabia (which he tried to do), he would have controlled HALF of the world’s oil production, and letting a ba’athist dictator have that kind of stranglehold on oil would’ve been a bad thing for everyone. Why do you think there were so many countries among the Coalition forces?
@@DeadPixel1105 Z3r0_• is right. That is a very smart and true analyse. Just because you feel intimidated from intelligence doesn't mean you get to try and discredit valuable arguments in a non-hostile discussion. These types of discussion are so important and frankly rare that they need to be allowed at all costs. Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean they are wrong and should be silenced. When arguments are silenced it makes democracy crumble.
You can NEVER forget, forgive, or justify the killing of the innocent, and certainly not the killing of children!! What happened at Waco and Ruby Ridge were tragedies, and so was what McVeigh did in OKC; an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.
12:25 "In a happier world, Nichols would've responded with..." Pardon me, but in a happier world, Waco and Ruby Ridge would've been handled much better by the authorities, arresting offending parties for breaking laws more just and constitutional. The actions of the alphabet soup agencies were unconscionable. I don't like what McVeigh did, but I don't like what Janet Waco did either.
@@EnderBOT122 It was more humoristic than critical, there's actually a lot I would love to understand and learn about regarding the passion about guns in the US.
@@Mangaka-ml6xo Guns are cool, I have many and like to collect old military surplus rifles. Most people own guns for hunting, self defense, and sport shooting. Guns have been a part of our culture for so long, I don't see them ever going away especially with more support for the second ammendment. Mass shootings are a statistical anomaly, gun homicides have been decreasing since 1990 and there is no solid proof that strict gun control has made any of our large cities safer
@@EnderBOT122 Thanks I'm glad to be able to have answers from fans like you :) ( not sure if that would be the proper term) Am curious again, is there an era you prefer when getting a new piece for your collection ?
@@Mangaka-ml6xo I don't collect anything specific, just whatever interesting I can find for a good price. There is a lot of stuff I wish I could easily buy, but they are hard to find and go for a lot of money now due to import bans and increasing popularity. I would love to be able to buy cheap european, chinese, and russian made guns, but sadly our politicians banned import from many of these countries
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For those of you asking, we had to re-upload the video because we made a mistake in the end credits.
Oh man I thought I was losing it. Like how did I see this video without it being out already. Really made me feel crazy for a minute there guys. Great content hope it doesn't affect the views on this video too much. Keep up the great videos!
Richard "The Iceman" Kuklinski , have you done a bio on him ????
Where are you from Simon?
@@dirtymikentheboys5817I'm from the UK, specifically the county of Kent in the south-east.
@@Biographics Just watched the Sinatra episode and I really hope you'll do Woodie Guthrie one day. I doubt it's a common request though, so I'd settle on Kurt Cobain ^^
I grew up in Oklahoma City, and I can remember seeing the glass windows in my math class violently shake due to the shock wave that came after the detonation of the bomb. After the news broke about the cause, I waited along with other kids who had a parent who worked in the downtown area, huddled in front of television sets, to hear of more details, and for some to hope we could see our parent(s) walk by the cameras. That day, in middle school was the first time I realized my parents were mortal, truly realized the tradegy that my parents could and would die some day. I'm one of the lucky... my father wasn't hurt. But many didn't get that set of news.
I'm proud to be an "Okie!", and prouder yet to see what we created from rubble. If anyone is interested, look up the survivor tree... And how we honored it.
My wife has cousins in OKC, and visiting them over the years I had the opportunity to see the construction of the memorial on the site of the Murrah Building. It is beautiful and heart wrenching - though the notes, pictures, shoes, license plates, etc. tied onto the construction fence while the memorial was being built were what brought me to tears.
I also grew up in OKC. I was in my 5th grade class reading "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn" when I heard the explosion. My mother and sister had been downtown that morning, and had gotten away only minutes before the bomb went off.
proud to be an Okie?? what does that means. i am not an Okie. so should i write that i am proud not to be an Okie? or is it something like i am proud to be male?
Thank you so much for sharing your memories of that experience. I had an extremely similar experience during the we'll trade center 9/11 attack in NYC and my heart went up it to my throat in empathy while reading your story.
Try growing up in Northern Ireland. There were so many bombs you become numb to it.
I just realized that, in his mug shot at least, Timothy McVeigh looks like H.P. Lovecraft.
I thought the same !
he looks like LinusTechTips to me
He looks like a blend of Eminem and Lovecraft in the mug shot
@@joaop2294 lol
KungFuBlitzKrieg was about to comment this
Wow Vsauce has changed
I though this was Binging with Babish???
Michael Santoro
Not for the better either.
I basically think this every time I see Simon.
LAMO
Ruby Ridge and Waco were super messed up. The guy from Ruby Ridge who missed his court date was given the wrong date in his summons, and had been tricked into breaking the law by the ATF to begin with when an informant asked him to shorten the barrel of a gun just a tiny bit under what was legal under the pretense that it was for a child.
I remember reading " A guy drove up on a motorcycle and told man @ cabin ; l'll pay you $100.00 for every sawed off shotgun barrel you ...alter..."
Rolling Stone Mag....?
The atf shot and killed a woman while she was holding a baby.
Both were handled by blood thirsty animals. I am not condoning what David K did at all with young girls. I believe both incidents could have been dealt with better than what took place. It’s all so tragic.
And they now wonder why they *have* to be super careful to not "entrap" them i think the term is callled?
@@barbaragarb9453 Um entrapment is , lazy Cops - Detective s trying for an arrest with faux FBook page....
Entrapment is all the rage....right now...all over the web.
Host Sites m u s t know it's going on.
We can't get oversight on BIG things...like corrupt NIS officials....so entrapment practice is might as well be
.........Law Of The Land..........
“I hate and fear what the government is doing”
- joins the army.
Let them train you then use it against them.
@@jrm3319 you're not wrong.
Actually his time in the army is what made him hate the govt
Veteran here, most other veterans hate the Government.
@@ShellShock11C oorah damn the government.
I was working in Tulsa, OK when I got news of the bombing and location. My Father had an appointment at 9:00 a.m. at the Social Security office at eve Murragh building. I was frantically trying to call and all the lines were jammed. No one worked the rest of that day. We just were glued to the TV.
I finally got hold of my Dad, he didn’t go to the meeting. If he had, he would have been among the victims.
I am so proud of Oklahomans. The first responders and crew never paid a penny for anything. Hot meals were brought to them. Soda. Snacks. Candy bars. You name it, it was provided. Our doctors and nurses came from all over the State. They heard the news and got in a car to help.
The Oklahoma City memorial is lovely and honors the lives lost.
Glad to hear your dad made it. I was ten when this happened I remember hearing about it. It was so sad and senseless
An interesting concept - theoretically - if MDA had existed back in 1995 - & then Tim wood have had the opportunity to eliminate hundreds of Redcoats - with no civilian losses - he wood have done that & left the Murrah building alone ! Your thoughts ?
I worked for SSA in that building and was in the supply stockroom that morning. Had I been at my desk at the reception area I would have died. We lost the majority of our visitors in the reception area. I won’t go into the awful details of my experience but be very glad your dad wasn’t there. I lost most of my unit that morning, many friends and a great supervisor. Our office was directly underneath the daycare. Awful, awful day.
@@sunnyta619простите за вопрос,а вы работали на федеральное правительство?
@@strannikvnociyes
I was there when it happened. I was in the 3rd grade. My mother was acting coroner for the state, and my father was a structural engineer, who was on the survey team that built the Murrah building.
My mom came in to collect bodies, my dad was there to tell what places of the wreckage were safe to walk on and what would collapse under too much weight.
The dogs they used to find survivors were getting depressed and giving up because they weren't finding anyone alive anymore.
People, myself inclided, had to crawl inside and cry out so that the dogs would find living people so that they would be motivated to work again.
At the memorial there's the "Survivors Tree". Under that tree is an Indian head penny, because my dad used to park his Indian motorcycle under that tree when he helped build that building.
Here's an interesting concept - theoretically - *if* MDA had existed back in 1995 - & then Tim wood have had the opportunity to eliminate hundreds of Redcoats - with no civilian losses - he wood have done that & left the Murrah building alone ! You thoughts ?
The dog thing also happened at 9/11
Those poor dogs. Imagine such loving creatures being depressed that they can't fulfill their jobs? Animals can suffer ptsd as well as humans. Hoping they went on to loving homes afterwards and spent the rest of their days chasing Frisbees, eating home cooked meals a few times a week, and being pet/cuddled to help them get restful sleep. Plus their own furniture to take a break from being a dog too. Those brave canines. You're also brave for giving those heroes motivation to keep working too.
@@whatservicetojoin8593what are you even fuckin sayin?
@@whatservicetojoin8593 The hell u on bout?
You should have mentioned that Weaver "missed" his court date because the court papers they sent Randy had the wrong date on them.
its almost like they weren't to be trusted...
Actually they tried to contact him multiple times, directly and through his lawyers. He refused to talk to both the government when called, his lawyer and they even informed nearby neighbors.
@Old Iron His child shot at US Marshalls ? Secondly his wife was shot in the head through a door. I doubt they were using infrared scopes. Anymore excuses for criminals committing murder and then dying for it ?
@Old Iron Yes, they did identify themselves as marshals, you could easily look up this information. They shot where the target is going, i.e. leading the target. Furthermore, while an ifrared scope doesn't differentiate targets it does allow you to see if there is a heat signature behind a door (i.e. a human being). The family killed a U.S. marshall do you think they were just going to walk away from it with no issues? If you do then you are naive. The U.S. government didn't own slaves, which makes your slavery argument irrelevant? Do you have any more ad-hoc fallacies you want to throw out? You know what would have solved this, I can tell you surrendering to the government for a crime you've been indicted for, he could have had due process yet chose not to do so and it cost lives in the process on both sides.
y'all have been watching too many movies... Infrared scopes can't even see through glass (they only see the temp of the glass...or anything else) & they damn sure can't see through walls & doors.
“My gun is loaded, officer.”
“So is mine.”
Why do I feel like this cop is from a movie with Clint Eastwood?
I called it "cheesy edgelord"
Do you really think he said that? That’s the kinda cool stuff you think of like three hours later and be like man I should said that
@@deoglemnaco7025I️ know right. I️ just watched a Family Guy scene where Stewie was like “damn I️ just now thought of a comeback”
McVeigh: "They'll never catch us"
90 minutes later...
McVeigh: "Crap."
If that doesn’t say it all then I don’t know what does.
Lee Harvey Oswald was also caught pretty quick. How does someone plan a crime like this and then leave the scene with an upside down and drive on a highway
I don't think they ever thought they were gonna skate....unless they triggered the reaction from the people they were hoping for.
@@broom3298 even weirder the guy who killed Oswald. The fbi needed something to justify themselves after Waco.
@@broom3298 Oswald was just a mental case
Dude looks like a discount Eminem.
He was older than Eminem. Eminem looks like a discount Timothy McVeigh.
@@governortarkin5957 That's how I usually put it haha.
@@governortarkin5957 Either way they're both dead in some sense of the word.
That's hilarious!
Swity In D12 is named after him too, coincidence? I think not but Sheeple. Back to the Em thing? Meh, you seen one white dude that didn’t get enough cuddles from Mummy you’ve seen em all.
It's worth noting that Randy Weaver only missed that court date because he was told it was a month later, so either a miscommunication or a typo set that off
Kills 160 people.
Drives away from the scene in a car with no license plate.
Logic = “am I a joke to you”
It's brain lacks wrinkles.
The funny thing about extremists, they tend to hold their principles above practicality. He was anti-gubmint, and a license plate is gubmint.
@@thegardenofeatin5965 good insight
It’s like a super extreme version of if you have drugs make sure the drugs are the only thing illegal you are doing. You wouldn’t drive 95 with a pound of weed in your car but this dude drives without a license plate after committing terrorism 🤔
They were probably distracted from the explosion but it shouldn’t happen of course
The years have not been kind to hp lovecraft
/ Bleu / did you know H.P. Lovecraft also named his cat the N-word this an actual fact
@@balaclavadude2898 "Come her N-word, come here"
simmilar political beliefs too
@@wannabeaussie5809 To be fair the only similarity was that lovecraft was racist. I don't think he was anti-gov to the extent of wanting to mercilessly kill other people with explosives.
@@perrypougins379 The german N word?
Nazi?
I’m from Oklahoma, born and raised, just a year after the bombing. Growing up, this was something you learned about very early on if you weren’t alive to experience it. Everyone has a story of where they were when they felt the explosion, my parents worked in Norman about 25 minutes south of the building and felt the windows of the dealership shake. No one knew what had happened, they just knew they needed to turn on the television.
Now, I work 5 min. from the memorial, I drive by it all the time and see the fence where people leave plush toys, photos, and cards so we never forget the lives lost.
All that being said, I’ve only walked the grounds of the building, but have never been inside the museum.
Truth be told ruby ridge and And Waco were handled very poorly. This gave “ justification” in the mind of a terribly misguided David Koresh.
Ruby ridge shouldn't be lumped in with Waco. Both were tragedies, but the Weaver's did pretty much nothing to deserve their fate.
@JcJ * yeah, well. Then russians were right to make carpet bombings in Chechnya in '94 and Israel was right to bomb Lebanon pretty much every year from 1983 to 1990 and from 2006 to 2007? Defending their own nations from separatists and islamic fanatics)
JcJ * you realize there’s no proof that weaver was a white supremacist? No one in his family deserved it
@@user-ur8hl8lr7q Its not what Weaver/Koresh did, Its how bad it was handled, and they were both handled, at sometime by the same ATF/FBI agent... I forgot his name darn
@@user-ur8hl8lr7q Running at policemen with guns... Nobody deserves to be killed this way, yet I highly doubt many who say this would apply the same standards of someone deserving to be shot to the high death rate of afro-americans when encountering police. Kind of smells of hippocracy.
Timmy Turner... I made a weird association with Timothy McVeigh and Fairly Odd Parents. “Timmy was an average kid that no one understands...”
Brian Odell ATF + FBI always giving him commands (bad twerp).
He even read The "Turner" Diaries.
I sense a "creepy cartoon theory" creepypasta in the works here. One that will finally put the "Ash in a coma" and "Angelica is hallucinating Rugrats" ones to shame!
Brian Odell what do you understand? He was socially isolated, disillusioned and a loner, and he committed a terrible act of violence against people who weren’t his enemy
@@conors4430 they were his enemy, that's why he killed them.
The same sniper that killed the mother and feeding child at Ruby Ridge was the same one who fired shots at Waco. He claimed that he had not fired a round but it was later found out that he had shot at least 3 rounds because 3 spent .308 shells were lying on the floor near his rifle.
Lon Horiuchi. Also I'm healthy and not suicidal.
Like it or not, immediately after the bomb the high risk ATF raids stopped. It may have had some correlation.
It's almost like domestic terrorism, despite being horrific and something to be abhorred, is an immune response to an irresponsible and corrupt government.
@@jimothyhimony nope. You're right. It's not like that at all.
@@teddygrizz he is right, and your short minded if you actually think what you said is true.
@@Muhmawmehmaw dont forget the 1985 philadelphia bombing. The government was a big terrorist organization
@@Muhmawmehmaw But they stopped, did they not?
While it's awful, he danced the same dance the government continues to play to this day. He's no different than a pilot dropping a bomb.
You always present these so professionally, even when they're controversial. My parents lived and worked in Oklahoma City. My dad worked near the Murrah Building and watched the bodies of children pulled out from his office window. He still won't talk about it.
He does have a wonderful delivery, however he is not without his own personal bias and vitriol.
@@MikeHunt-rz4xoit's a brit though he gets old real fast
That is why I never understand why anyone calls McVeigh a hero.
Simon Whistler: RUclips's Nicest Reuploader
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Aku Fan, best handle ever!
The internet’s most polite upside down head.
When has he reuploaded a video?
EDIT: Just read the comment nevermind.
Insert_ _Name I still don’t get it lol could you explain
The greatest villains always has a reason for their insanity, and sometimes quite arguably even some logic behind it.
It's just that their plan has too much collateral damage and hurts innocent lives.
@Ryan Ryan And right wing fanatics
Anko 122 you make a very good point. Too often, we have simplistic views of people who are reviled as villains and people who are celebrated as heroes. We need to remember that people are remembered by history are just as complex as the rest of us.
@Spaalone Babagus that's probably true (although I've never seen anyone argue why the bombing of Dresden was necessary), but its horrifying that you say this of a neo-nazi terrorist whose main long term goal, as explained in the turner diaries, was the murder of most people on earth.
@@demilembias2527 Because he bombed the ATF, it was a fascist bombing a building from a fascist institution
Perfect description of the government.
Oh wait...
20:15 - calling children 'collateral damage' is as disgusting as it sounds. He however, is just mimicking the US Army that calls any civilian casualties 'collateral damage'. Just another way of dehumanising people.
Amazing how detailed your videos are despite the length. I remember working in a regional trauma center in Ft. Smith, AR when this happened. Oddly enough, I was in Terre Haute, IN adjacent to the prison he was executed.
You know you did bad when your defence lawyers are like “yeah, nah... we’re not going to help you on this one”
Ironic. If he had blown up FBI headquarters in Texas, he'd have been seen as avenging Waco.
Well Ironically he was too much of a coward to do that
Obviously you don’t know Texans that well
@@brandonmaddox4862Texas shuts down when it snows 😒
I think that the tragic and awful events of the Waco and Ruby Ridge and the slap on the wrist that the FBI and ATF agents got that led to this tragic and awful bombing is just an example of circular violence.
didn't help but don't bother playing devil's advocate for a homicidal psychopath or for a bunch of meth zombies who think their guns are more important than their children. it's a childish and stupid philosophy and only an idiot subscribes to it.
i also think when his grandfather died he died mentally, but that’s just me
being able to look into the camera as you’re slowly dying while people pay to watch it and then still glaring at it post death is on a different level
If he had detonated the bomb at the ATF, FBI or IRS headquarters and not hurt any children in the process feel the public would of taken it very differently.
Yeah it’s sad he got the bad ending.
No, they did not like it anyhow. But a lot of nut jobs did.
I admit that I have a personal connection to this story. First, I was working about 35 miles East of OKC on April 19th and the crew I was working with and myself heard the blast. I was also an officer with the Perry Police Department and personally know and have worked with now Sheriff Charlie Hanger. He is well respected, and a total professional. I have also been friends with his wife, Nancy for over 40 years. In the photo of McVeigh being led out of the Noble County courthouse, the man with the dark hair and mustache is Lt. Wayne Powell. He and I also worked together on the Perry P.D.
F the police. Government too.
“The great big book of suburban misery”.... can I get that on amazon or...
Nadiri Myers Me three...
sounds like a book begging to be writen!!!
How does this Brit know our American suburban misery so well lol...
Well i imagine suburban misery is found everywhere you find a suburb lol
Simon is right. All around my property is every episode of The Young & The Restless. Live and in color.
He definitely changed more lives than just the 168 people he killed. Imagine all their families. Imagine his family. Imagine the communities that he destroyed.
That should tell you a lot... Just imagine all the families the US government ruined when they unleashed their dogs and invaded their countries.
@@at9670 bingo
Imagine how many more lives in people he’s changed to open their eyes and wake up and see how corrupt our government has become…. It works both ways.
@@at9670 Mcveigh wasnt Anti stablisment , he just was frustrated that us government wasnt most racist.
@theocean2698 Yep he worshipped the Turner diaries above all.
Lol why he roast the family like that 😂 “ a family of nobodys”😭
He really dragged them for no reason. 😂😂😂
My aunts were both PD during the time of this, One being an officer on scene and my other was a forensic expert, she identified about 80% of the victims including the little girl in the very known photo of the firefighter holding the child, it changed both of them for life
А сейчас они кем работают или на пенсии,если не секрет?)
“I could do better” I’ll remember that quote next time I visit the irs building
My dad was in the marine corps with Mcveigh. Told me he had beers with him on leave before they both were honorably discharged.
I lived in perry for half of my life and now reside in Stillwater Oklahoma about 25 miles away.
The fbi interrogated my dad following the okc bombing though he had nothing to do with it. I assume most of his peers from the corps were also... crazy stuff!
McVeigh was army, not marines.
Why lie to be kinda connected to this guy??? Army and the Marines are two different things. So there’s actually no way that your dad was in the marine corps with Timothy because he was In the army..u see?
Marines and Army folk do hang out together at bars if they are near where they're based. So this guy may not be lying.
"Hitler would gobble up for his Nazi breakfast" ... Now that is a very great visual explanation 👏
I was born in OKC and grew up like 15 minutes away. my parents were both paramedics at the time of the bombing and went to the city to relieve first responders that had been working for hours on end
I appreciate your channel so much for being a Brit commenting on American history and politics without any air of pretentiousness or condescension. Such a breath of fresh air.
If you don’t hear his condescending nature in his videos, you’re deaf
I grew up about 15 miles down the road from McVeigh. It's too easy to see how he became isolated and radicalized. It's impossible to hear Pendleton or Starpoint (his high school) without thinking about all those people he killed and injured.
Re upload?... re “like” and re comment...
Great video again Simon!
jobanh7ify grat kilzone pic dude
Thanks man! I’m waiting for a next gen remake lol
yeah me too, killzone 1 and 2 were fucking masterpieces, 3 was good and shadow fall was disappointing af, killzone 2 looked so gritty and realistic
It’s hard not to see conspiracies when the government acts so secretly about how it deals with “the terror”
fight it dude, dont let yourself be stupid! fight it!
@@dorrisgonnawreckyou7111 fight what
1:15 - Chapter 1 - Early life (A murderer is born)
4:35 - Chapter 2 - A soldier's life (Death in the desert)
7:30 - Chapter 3 - Ruby ridge & waco (Can we trust the government ?)
10:50 - Chapter 4 - Before the bombing (The last days of peace)
15:45 - Chapter 5 - 04/19/1995 (The bomb explodes)
19:15 - Chapter 6 - Aftermath
Ruby Ridge: He was cooerced to sell a totally legal shotgun to a BATFE agent. Who then asked him to "saw off" the barrel of the weapon in a spot of the BATFE agents chosing (the weapons charge: half an inch too short according to the NFA of 1934). The agent was never held accountable, even though it was one of the clearest cases of entrapment ever accounted by a government agent.
Struck a chord with that one, Simon!
I was there, lost my aunt Terry, and later my uncle Bob. Heck, my other uncle Mike ran the Olympic torch to the bomb site in their honor in 1996. Needless to say, this subject touches me.
Just gotta say, you guys covered that well. Really appreciate the attention to detail.
Thank you.
Here's an interesting concept - theoretically - *if* MDA had existed back in 1995 - & then Tim wood have had the opportunity to eliminate hundreds of Redcoats - with no civilian losses - he wood have done that & left the Murrah building alone ! You thoughts ?
I remember watching all of these events unfold as a kid. As disturbing now as it was then.
Thanks for doing these. Often-times we only hear about the horror of the atrocities committed by these monsters but their lives are never elucidated. We never know what perverted them into what they became.
Timothy grew up 10 min from my town. I was a senior in high school when he killed all those people. It rocked our community. Our high schools were rivals and many ppl knew and were friends and family with those in Pendleton.
I grew up just south of Pendleton. I remember watching it on TV when I was 13
"The kind of book Hitlet would've gobbled up for his Nazi breakfast."
😂😂😂
Restless Guitarist don’t you have spell check? Are you unable to cast your eye over 13 measley words Before hitting enter?
Would his Nazi breakfast be swastika shaped pancakes and egg whites 😂
We moved to Waco before my brother was born. We returned to OKC not long after and I was 4 when the Murrah Building was bombed. I don't remember any of the events as they happened (do you really expect someone that young to even understand what was happening?), but I remember McVeigh's death very well, as that's all my classmates talked about. It was years later that I learned of who I almost lost in the bombing. And to this day, my grandmothers cannot go near the memorial.
If you ever find yourself in OKC, at a minimum visit the memorial. The museum is very well done, and I highly recommend visiting it as well. For those who work in the area, it's easy to walk by, but I know there are many like me who always experience a mood change when passing.
April 19th was the 25th anniversary of the bombing.
I applaud this chaps ability to be surprisingly impartial given relevant and legitimate cultural differences with Americans and our values. Our love for weaponry is unique.
Not really. It’s just unique for white people to love. Africa and Middle East put us to shame lol
@jeffv237 It's not a white person thing, as a Brit I can say we are not pro-gun
At least according to some of my family members who went to school with him including my dad who was in the same class as McVeigh was anything but a "loner and bullied kid" in fact he was the exact opposite and was the one doing the bullying and was one of those kind of kids who tried to "fit it" and be "popular" so he had friends.
"debate still rages about who started the fire"...........well, someone is very informed on the subject.
From what I remember the FBI claimed that the fundies started the fire, but later were forced to admit they had deployed incendiary grenades or something of the sort (after claiming they hadn't)
@@mwellnow5016 it was military tear gas that they originally claimed they didn’t use but actually did but examination of the gas cartridges shows that the cartridges didn’t start the fire.
I am all for preppers and second amendment advocates because I am one. That being said I'm for being ready if catastrophe comes to you but don't be the catastrophe yourself. He had no reason to do what he did. He became everything we advocate against.
rodney hill I’m not a prepper and I’m for gun reform, so it’s interesting to see your opinion on this, thank you!
@@baronvonslambert then I better hope I draw first
I agree, everyone should be prepared for anything that could possibly happen. Even in anperhaps unlikely situation as the government becoming tyrannical and attempting to take firearms, this seems more possible everyday. However most people who do this are law abiding and proud people. The belief that those who people who have weapons for defense and domestic terrorist are in anyway connected is false and misguided.
I agree. It was so senseless
Guns are suppose to be used for defense. The people who follow 2nd Amendment rights must be honorable and will resort to guns as the last possible option.
People who use guns for an act of offense or threatening others isn’t honorable, for example, militia’s showing up to protests threatening to shoot, criminals robbing others or insane people who plans on using it for a mass shooting must never be allowed to hold them ever again, even if that means permanently.
I respect him for targeting the federal government but he should have went after the politicians. Not a building full of civilians and children.
Idk about the rest but ANFO mixtures aren't "highly unstable" like you've suggested. they are actually really safe to handle and can be difficult to get to detonate.
"But, this isn't a happier world."
- Simon Whistler
Listening to these audio biographies, I’ve learned more than my history teacher taught me
Dude... the bald hipster is a biased leftist. Don't believe everything he says.
Samuel Skogqvist The f*ck is wrong with you? Why would you say something like that?
@@j.a.weishaupt1748 cause he's one of those who feels the need to attack others who done tell him what he want to hear.
@@samuelskogqvist5565 Oh shut your mouth.
Look at all these emotional soy consumer lashing unto me lol, so defensive.
That's not how Vicky was shot, listen to the interview of the shooter. He shot her out of revenge.
When they reported his last meal, I remember thinking about what a waste it all was. In the end, they were dead, he was dead, and two empty pints of mint chocolate chip was all to show for it.
There's something very Twilight Zone about that observation ....
Can you do a biographic on Stanley Kubrick?
Off topic. But that pic of Paul revere looks so much like jack black lol.
I remember this well, was brushing my teeth in the bathroom of my home 2 hours drive time from OKC, my home shook it literally shook I thought it was an earthquake. Once I had the television on and figured out what caused my home to shake my only concern was contacting my aunt to be certain she was ok, as she lived much closer to the bombing location than I. She was/is ok. Still a horrifying day for Oklahoman's
I grew up near Lockport his hometown. In high school, I remember a reporter who actually came in and talked to us about how he got to interview Timothy and his parents. Just hearing the story was genuinely astonishing.
Whenever they say a date I think of how old I was when something happened and it always make me feel so small. Every single person who died or was wounded, this young man at war, the whole gd thing.
9:31 That agent was really calm considering how close he was to getting smoked
I was serving in the Army when he hit that bldg. All the damned media could talk about was the fact that he was ex-military... I'll never forget the skittish way the civilians in Anchorage, who we normally got along with quite well, acted towards us for weeks afterwards. Like they thought any one of us might go similarly postal at any moment. What he did was unexcusable, but the way those "journalists" fed off it was just as bad. In hindsight, it seems a dress rehearsal for the way they act today.
uh yeah i think the fear is understandable though, the fact 3 men were able to do something that drastic really makes you realize how vulnerable you are around others
And they don't exactly look out for your mental health once they cut you loose. My late husband was a corpsman and I wish he would've got the help he needed.
@@MadameWesker this is so unbearably terrible. I'm sorry for your loss and hope you're doing well.
sad but truly his paranoia of the government was absolutely justified.
Northwood, MK-ultra and what else was declassifies in the 2000's....
Is one thing to hate government, is another to kill innocent people to revenge them.
Comments like these make me sick! If one don't like governments politics bring the fight to them. Don't bring it out on bystanders and claim yourself hero doing that.
@@namejsliepins2577 Dont care nerd
Great video, man! I love the way you explain things. You keep things interesting the entire time without ever leaving a dull moment. Keep it up, dude. Can't wait to come home from work later and watch more of your stuff.
One thing you forgot. The sniper who killed Weaver’s wife was also at Waco. This set McVeigh off.
An expedited execution always raised more questions as far as I’m concerned.
Anything 'September' scares me now. Think I'm going to stay home the entire month. Lol
ANFO isn't unstable. It's safe for an explosive and it is used in some types of minig applications all over the world.
ANFO is super stable. You can throw it in to a fire, smack it with sledgehammer, won't blow up.
At 13:44 he's talking about how Timothy McVeigh changed locations because of flowers but had no heart for the children, well in all honesty Timothy McVeigh didn't know about the day care center in the Murrah building. Now he never apologized for his actions, and he did call the children "collateral damage", but in fairness he, Timothy McVeigh, was not aware of the day care center, so really he didn't choose flowers over children, as the narrirator would have you believe, I just think if youre going to speak on a topic, you should get the facts straight. Now.... before anyone attacks me, I am a Proud Oklahoman, born and raised, my husband is a OKC FF, who worked tirelessly day and night at the Murrah building recovering the bodies of those burried under the ruble after this bombing took place and he worked day and night until they were all recovered, never leaving for more and a few hours to sleep a little, he was there until the last one was found, also we lost friends/loved ones that day, 3, to be exact, and one of those was recovered by my husband, she was the last to be found.... so please don't attack me and tell me I have no clue what Im talking about, because clearly I do. but if someone is going to tell a story, about anything, it should be factual, and not meant to fill you with more hate and rage. Thats all i'm trying to say here. Timothy McVeigh committed mass murder. Thats a fact. Children did die, 19 to be exact. That is a fact. But Timothy McVeigh did not choose flowers over children.
The sniper killed innocent people.
Did not expect this episode to start with my birthday O.o
‘Timmy Mcveigh, America’s deadliest terrorist’
That isn’t the ATF, I’m confused.
That image used at 06.04 was from a piece of film taken on an army base over 1 year after the US government said McVeigh had been discharged. I'm sure they even denied that it was actually McVeigh. Unfortunate choice of stock images guys.
They got the death date wrong too it looks like
I noticed this too. That image us widely used to indicate McVeigh was "sheep-dipped" and continued working for the military after his "discharge." AFAIK this image is disputed by mainstream sources as not being McVeigh, and just someone that looks like him.
@@stuffnthings4106 Sorry for late reply. Yes, I've seen similar stuff. There have also been forensic experts who have confirmed voice matches to McVeigh based on the film taken by the director Bill Bean. I don't know mate, I'm not attracted to "conspiracy theories" at all but i do like to look at facts. At 50 years old I've also seen enough crazy things turn out to be true.
This narrator is purging his own childhood through Tim.
My fiancé was a few blocks away at daycare in OKC when the bomb went off (he was 5 at the time) He remembers a big muffled thud and then all the windows breaking before his mom quickly rushed over from work to take him home. I grew up in Tulsa (I was 4), and I vividly remember watching the local news when it happened.
I grew up in Oklahoma. My mom told me that the day before the bombing happened, she and my dad had a fight because she hadn't gotten her last name legally changed yet after she got married. She went to her P.O box that morning to get her birth certificate, but forgot her key. That may be the only reason me or my sister were ever born at all.
Yikes are you sure that’s a good thing, seeing as how you were born and lived in Oklahoma…
@@shasmi93Damn 😅
I remember this I was 17 sitting in the kitchen I lived at home with my adoptive mother before I turned 18was kicked out on October 11th for not kissing her new husband's ass
Hello Simon, wondering with admiration ....Do you read your intros out loud before filming and going over the edits... ???
Hates the government, decides join the army.
That intro was captivating.
As a second amendment advocate, I've never once thought the way these men do.
Can you do a bio on vince McMahon, love to see that one...he went from a trailer park in north carolina, to a multi millionaire owning the largest wrestling company on the planet
They lived in a trailer park? Didn't know that.
I think you're missing a pretty important part. You know, where he inherited the largest wrestling company on Earth? Sorry, he didn't inherit it because that would've meant considerable estate tax, he "bought" it at about 1% of it's value and paid that off with business profits. That's some clever tax evasion.
Mattwesley I just watched a thing about him that said he is a billionaire. It was about all the wrestlers deaths due to injury and painkiller od. And the fact that they’re not employees of the federation but free agents expected to pay their own health insurance med bills and med care, etc. said he didn’t feel any responsibility for them. Didn’t put him in a very positive light. I’m not making a judgmental comment but if he’s a hero of yours you might change your mind if you saw what I watched. His attitude made me feel bad for the permanently injured and dead celebrity wrestlers that helped make him his billions, not just that he consolidated all the different wrestling districts.
He’s a billionaire
@@tabbysmithfield3794 where can I watch this?
Im Reading the Turner diaries right now
W mans
I appreciate all your videos however I'd make the suggestion that you mistakenly stated the reason for the US invasion of Kuwait was due to a "humanitarian crisis" when it most likely was to secure lower priced oil exports from a friendly Middle Eastern country. The US has and continues to claim the basis of action is humanitarian when it's really only to secure political and economic benefits.
It’s more than that. By taking Kuwait, Saddam Hussein controlled a full quarter of the world’s oil production at the time, and had he been allowed to invade Saudi Arabia (which he tried to do), he would have controlled HALF of the world’s oil production, and letting a ba’athist dictator have that kind of stranglehold on oil would’ve been a bad thing for everyone. Why do you think there were so many countries among the Coalition forces?
You guys are so corny and cliche lmao
Here's your "I'm so edgy and smart" points. Have a good day.
@@DeadPixel1105 Z3r0_• is right.
That is a very smart and true analyse.
Just because you feel intimidated from intelligence doesn't mean you get to try and discredit valuable arguments in a non-hostile discussion. These types of discussion are so important and frankly rare that they need to be allowed at all costs. Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean they are wrong and should be silenced. When arguments are silenced it makes democracy crumble.
Like with Ukraine.
You can NEVER forget, forgive, or justify the killing of the innocent, and certainly not the killing of children!! What happened at Waco and Ruby Ridge were tragedies, and so was what McVeigh did in OKC; an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.
Great video. Very well done.
Not gonna lie, that one liner the state trooper said was badass.
Lol this man said “nazi breakfast”
Goebbel it up
There's a difference between being socially unaccepted and enjoying being isolated.
I love you guys, thank you for the channel. I was sick in bed the last 3 days and I've literally watched nothing else. Time well spent.
12:25 "In a happier world, Nichols would've responded with..." Pardon me, but in a happier world, Waco and Ruby Ridge would've been handled much better by the authorities, arresting offending parties for breaking laws more just and constitutional. The actions of the alphabet soup agencies were unconscionable. I don't like what McVeigh did, but I don't like what Janet Waco did either.
Can we have one on Marcus Garvey?
*While foaming at the mouth*: Don't take my guns! I need them in case some maniac nut case comes by!
Gun owners BTFO, you sure got them bro
@@EnderBOT122 It was more humoristic than critical, there's actually a lot I would love to understand and learn about regarding the passion about guns in the US.
@@Mangaka-ml6xo Guns are cool, I have many and like to collect old military surplus rifles. Most people own guns for hunting, self defense, and sport shooting. Guns have been a part of our culture for so long, I don't see them ever going away especially with more support for the second ammendment. Mass shootings are a statistical anomaly, gun homicides have been decreasing since 1990 and there is no solid proof that strict gun control has made any of our large cities safer
@@EnderBOT122 Thanks I'm glad to be able to have answers from fans like you :) ( not sure if that would be the proper term)
Am curious again, is there an era you prefer when getting a new piece for your collection ?
@@Mangaka-ml6xo I don't collect anything specific, just whatever interesting I can find for a good price. There is a lot of stuff I wish I could easily buy, but they are hard to find and go for a lot of money now due to import bans and increasing popularity. I would love to be able to buy cheap european, chinese, and russian made guns, but sadly our politicians banned import from many of these countries
Crazy to think I was only three months old when this happened.
RIP to all those who died though,
especially those children 😢
What he did was horribly wrong, but he wasn't completely wrong. Look what's going on now.