Steven K Lol the torque steer is something real. If you have a limp wrist when you slam on it, it will scare the shit out of you. Especially on stock motor mounts. Rear motor mount works wonders though, I barely even notice it anymore
the wrist is strong in this one.. lol sorry had too. but after watching the focus ST and its new torque vectoring abilities it made me look at other FWD cars in a diff light. Ford might be spoiling me tho. and thats not to say the mazdaspeed isnt a badass car.
Steven K I work at a mazda dealership and the first time I drove a speed3 the torque steer in first gear caught me way off guard haha but its actually pretty fun once you get used to it
i think the hate starts because its a fwd car, and then continues because they get compared to cars that cost way more, speeds are budget cars that someone working part time could afford, and with a few modifications and a reliable tune they can beat stis and evos, and you will still have money left over to make your car faster when you encounter a faster evo
@@jb6574 ay man, ill give the speed 3 some trust, think about drivetrain loss from stock (also if the commodore is auto) think about the extra weight, also remeber that the speed 3s have the best gearin basically ever, ive seen a 400whp speed 3 go kneck and kneck with a 490whp 370z
Hahaha thank you. I am the owner of the Evo and as I said in the previous post I use to own a ms3. All my car has is exhaust and ots tune. Jim is fully bolted on E85, these were just friendly races since I told him he was going to smoke me anyways (shit he use to hang with my tuned 2011 mustang 5.0 till 100mph). I honestly think he has the fastest speed 3 in mass. Once I get some injectors, fuel pump and get a real tune on E85 then we can run again.
I LOOOVE my Speed3! No one can comprehend that they beat ANYTHING, because people online always bash them. I've been an Evo/WRX/GTI fan for years...but I see them everywhere. That's why I went with MS3, just to be a lil more rare. Glad I did! she's more of a sleeper as well, which makes for a surprise when I Zoom Zoom past everyone. :D
MPS all the way :D..... well done bro !!! That 315Hp was that on VD Dyno or proper Dyno? and if u don't mind listing ur bolt-ons ? Stock K04 Turbo yeah? thanx bro :)
@sergsrt8 On the speed3? Cobb intake/cp-e top mount inter cooler/turbo xs downpipe/corksport catback/KMD fuel pump internals/Cobb ap and custom 3gal E85 tune.
Like I've said 1000x people. My car trapped 108-110 at this time and he was prob trapping around 105 at this time. I don't find it hard to believe a speed3 would pull on a Evo X. Yes you can still lose traction and win car was pullin bruhhh.
Idk why everyone forgets about the mazdaspeed6. AWD, problem solved. 11 hp more stock. and its like a damn luxury interior. Everyone forgets about the speed6.
Kyle Volney I am leaving this thread. This guy just said a ms6 is 5k more than a ms3 LOL. That's funny, it says 13k tops at the ones im looking at online, and a ms3 (2nd gen) is 20k+ , what in the fuck did you smoke this morning.
Braden Rikli he's talking brand new vs brand new. mazdaspeed 6 was almost $30k new vs $25k for a mazdaspeed 3. its not fair to compare a car that is 7-8 years old to a car that is 0-3 years old for current pricing... bro
Braden Rikli except the ms6 has way more miles. a ms3 with that milage is around 13 grand also they'r the same price and the ms3 pulls harder from a roll. just all depends what ya want. ive been lookin at both myself
This ms3 stayed with me up to 100mph when I raced him in my previous car 2011 mustang 5.0 which I dyno'd 380 WHP same day he put down 315whp and around 360tq.
I raced an evox.. he was stage 2 on an ots map and i was on a custom 17 psi map that i made myself.. the mods the have on my speed 3 were the same for the evo both turboback exhausts + intake... 3rd and 4th gear he pulled ahead about 1/4 of a car and 5th gear my car noped him and i pulled ahead... that was him on a 23 psi tune... im on 20 psi now i wish i had a bigger turbo lol
The speed3 is fully bolted and tuned with E85 roughly 320whp and 365tq. The Evo just has Perrin intercooler and full exhaust with stock o2 housing running Perrin ots map which is putting it around 290whp and around 260tq. With the power difference and the added weight roughly 200 pounds, you can see that outcome makes perfect sense.
tune for 50-50 e85....does wonders, my buddy has one tuned by trifecta, got custom tuned by one of them for e85 and his car rips, on 93 I get him by about a car
Who said anything about traction on the Evo? The speed3 was having a hard time getting traction since he is putting down about 100 more tq than my Evo. I plan to get a custom tune on 93 and E85 in the spring then see what the outcome is.
I wonder which car it was talking about when it said "no traction". I hope it wasn't taking about the evo. The only evo I seen that had no traction had about 900whp.
I have a 2008 speed 3 but I’m always gonna be a dsm guy and still have a 2g eclipse gst. This speed can easily take on the EvoX but I don’t think the outcome will be the same if he goes up against the true 4g63t. This evo motor is trash!! Got to love the Mazdaspeed 3 beautiful can and sounds amazing!!! Good clip brother!
Finally somebody that actually knows what they are talking about. I've had a speed3, mustang 5.0 and now a Evo..... the Evo is nice but unless fully bolted and tuned on E85 or upgraded turbo there not the tastes things out there.
I was shifting at 7k rpms. And for everyone who can't comprehend why the evo lost I will explain for the last time. Mazdaspeed 3 fully bolted and tuned on e85. Putting down 20-30whp and 70wtq more than my evo and is lighter. Common sense tells you the lighter more powerful car always wins.
@Etrician55 Not on a roll race my friend. Stock Speed 3's usually trap higher in the 1/4 mile than a stock Evo X's. You have no clue what your talking about. Your comment is obviously because your a fan boy. It's fine you like Evo's I do as well but I'm not ignorant lol. from a dig they are quicker(wrx/evo not the ralliart) but on a roll is a different ball game.
the Mazda speed was meant for circuit racing it handles pretty good I seen porches have problems staying up with it so I don't know what your talking about
@rlegault84 Puttin down the srt-4 drivers eh? Sounds like someone is a lil butt-hurt. Jk lol good runs. Anymore more plans for the Evo? You know about map switching right? What year model is it?
MazdaSpeed 3s are amazing cars man, if you like being a shock to people they're definitely the way to go. Or if you want to invest in an older car, MazdaSpeed 6s are just as great, and you get all wheel drive
Now once im tuned with a 3port ebcs and upgrade my stock bov add injectors and fuel pump and run e85 I can see the evo winning that race once dyno tuned.
correct! yeah but its 100kg lighter and yeah the gearing is longer its better that way in straight lines when u have to shift so many times lol inefficient better to have 2 gears to 100kph, a 3rd change at like 140 - 150kph then make it shorter at the top and ur last gear a long one for the freeway
Wasn't a sleeper to me. Lol I knew he had about 30whp and about 100wtq more than my car since it is not pro tuned like his was. By the way, this speed3 is for sale as it was traded in for a twin turbo awd ford Taurus SHO
no surprise there the mps is very quick with a little bit of work. however non forged bottom unlike the evo means your very limited. put a red on that evo and dont look back.
No it wasn't directed to you bro, but as I'm sure you know there's so many evo owners that talk mad shit about ms3s, just like homay was tryna talk smack about you, Its just you'll never hear an evo owner say ya, I lost fair and square and ms3s are quick, there's always some srry as excuse evo owners make. Your evo is dope.
I own a fully bolted tuned speed and my friend has a 2012 EVO fully bolted and E85 tuned also and he whoops all of our crew...Give the Evo the same Mods and Tune and they win plain and simple. Again not hating on my own car at all love it to death but you cant argue with AWD baby and that evo engine..
I'm an Evo guy, but common sense says lighter and more whp = faster from a roll. Plus when rolling, less drive wheels are better, unless you have stupid power.
you obviously dont know about these cars then. If it was from a stop, the evo would walk away, but from a roll, the ms3 spanks evos and subarus all day.
Damn son....its all good. When he gets tuned and I'm bt, the station wagon is catching frequent ass whoopins hahaha...you should probably specify your numbers are to the wheels btw to eliminate any stupid comments. Just saying lol
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An evo whines about not having traction at 40? But a FWD mazda pulls on it? Okay…
yea that sounds fishy. plus those speed3's have a ridiculous amount of torque steer..
Steven K Lol the torque steer is something real. If you have a limp wrist when you slam on it, it will scare the shit out of you. Especially on stock motor mounts. Rear motor mount works wonders though, I barely even notice it anymore
the wrist is strong in this one.. lol sorry had too. but after watching the focus ST and its new torque vectoring abilities it made me look at other FWD cars in a diff light. Ford might be spoiling me tho. and thats not to say the mazdaspeed isnt a badass car.
Lol I love both these cars my wife loves her ms3 it very surprising how that torque steer will get ya
Steven K I work at a mazda dealership and the first time I drove a speed3 the torque steer in first gear caught me way off guard haha but its actually pretty fun once you get used to it
So many Speed3 haters.... smh
coming from an evo owner speed 3s are quick no doubt
i think the hate starts because its a fwd car, and then continues because they get compared to cars that cost way more, speeds are budget cars that someone working part time could afford, and with a few modifications and a reliable tune they can beat stis and evos, and you will still have money left over to make your car faster when you encounter a faster evo
@Don Duke yeah that's a lie
@Don Duke ive never raced one but a Commodore aka g8 should pull up top. Also beating them with just a bov..lol
@@jb6574 ay man, ill give the speed 3 some trust, think about drivetrain loss from stock (also if the commodore is auto) think about the extra weight, also remeber that the speed 3s have the best gearin basically ever, ive seen a 400whp speed 3 go kneck and kneck with a 490whp 370z
"Thaut gai haus sou mush faukin tawrk."
Wahahaha!
Ms3 FTW. This guy is fired up at least he took it like a man and didn't bash on the ms3. Evo interior looks nice btw
Props to the Mazda. Mazda has been tuning cars with turbo for quite awhile now. they know what's up
Hahaha thank you. I am the owner of the Evo and as I said in the previous post I use to own a ms3. All my car has is exhaust and ots tune. Jim is fully bolted on E85, these were just friendly races since I told him he was going to smoke me anyways (shit he use to hang with my tuned 2011 mustang 5.0 till 100mph). I honestly think he has the fastest speed 3 in mass. Once I get some injectors, fuel pump and get a real tune on E85 then we can run again.
I LOOOVE my Speed3! No one can comprehend that they beat ANYTHING, because people online always bash them. I've been an Evo/WRX/GTI fan for years...but I see them everywhere. That's why I went with MS3, just to be a lil more rare. Glad I did! she's more of a sleeper as well, which makes for a surprise when I Zoom Zoom past everyone. :D
You know how I know you're from Boston?
how do you know :O?
Kyle Volney by the signs and the way he said "torque" toaque....i'm from Boston as well and i hate that stupid bostonian accent
***** no lmfao even worse, Everett.
I'm from Worcester,Mass moved to Danbury, CT for work. I miss Boston.. GO PATS
So much fuckin torque
MPS all the way :D..... well done bro !!! That 315Hp was that on VD Dyno or proper Dyno? and if u don't mind listing ur bolt-ons ? Stock K04 Turbo yeah? thanx bro :)
I have not had the pleasure of running an MS3 yet but would love to!
How do you race with the radio on? I gotta hear my car.
@sergsrt8 On the speed3? Cobb intake/cp-e top mount inter cooler/turbo xs downpipe/corksport catback/KMD fuel pump internals/Cobb ap and custom 3gal E85 tune.
I knew I recognized that highway. I love the 128-S stretch from Gloucester to Beverly, you can hit 120+ in light traffic
"soo much fawkin towk!"
Well that was unexpected. Could see a Speed3 having a chance from rolling...from standstill the Evo would have the advantage.
Like I've said 1000x people. My car trapped 108-110 at this time and he was prob trapping around 105 at this time. I don't find it hard to believe a speed3 would pull on a Evo X. Yes you can still lose traction and win car was pullin bruhhh.
what does a usdm spec evo 8 make as standard ?
What did you buy at Gapplebees?
Idk why everyone forgets about the mazdaspeed6. AWD, problem solved. 11 hp more stock. and its like a damn luxury interior. Everyone forgets about the speed6.
probably because it weighs roughly 800lbs more, cost about 5000 usd more and doesn't have the same weight distribution as the ms3
Kyle Volney just took you to school man.
Kyle Volney I am leaving this thread. This guy just said a ms6 is 5k more than a ms3 LOL. That's funny, it says 13k tops at the ones im looking at online, and a ms3 (2nd gen) is 20k+ , what in the fuck did you smoke this morning.
Braden Rikli he's talking brand new vs brand new. mazdaspeed 6 was almost $30k new vs $25k for a mazdaspeed 3. its not fair to compare a car that is 7-8 years old to a car that is 0-3 years old for current pricing... bro
Braden Rikli except the ms6 has way more miles. a ms3 with that milage is around 13 grand also they'r the same price and the ms3 pulls harder from a roll. just all depends what ya want. ive been lookin at both myself
This ms3 stayed with me up to 100mph when I raced him in my previous car 2011 mustang 5.0 which I dyno'd 380 WHP same day he put down 315whp and around 360tq.
I raced an evox.. he was stage 2 on an ots map and i was on a custom 17 psi map that i made myself.. the mods the have on my speed 3 were the same for the evo both turboback exhausts + intake... 3rd and 4th gear he pulled ahead about 1/4 of a car and 5th gear my car noped him and i pulled ahead... that was him on a 23 psi tune... im on 20 psi now i wish i had a bigger turbo lol
The speed3 is fully bolted and tuned with E85 roughly 320whp and 365tq. The Evo just has Perrin intercooler and full exhaust with stock o2 housing running Perrin ots map which is putting it around 290whp and around 260tq. With the power difference and the added weight roughly 200 pounds, you can see that outcome makes perfect sense.
richard legault lol nah, my speed used to stomp evos snd stis. I only had coil overs and a tune.
10 years old now. But surprised you only made 320 whp fully bolted and e85
My old speed3 used to stomp on evos and stis. Just a tune and its a faster car.
Lol race a older evo ones to sixes tuned up bro eat up anything
Michael Ormond-Hapi ah too heavy bro
wow. issues with "traction" on the awd car but not on the FF? doesn't make sense to me but ok. whatever helps you sleep at night.
SOOO MACH FAKIN TOORK
what gear was this roll at?
That kahr's got so much fakhin torwerk!!!
How is he right?
My ss/tc with a custom 25 psi hp tune and a few other bolt ons is pushin 330hp and 365tq
tune for 50-50 e85....does wonders, my buddy has one tuned by trifecta, got custom tuned by one of them for e85 and his car rips, on 93 I get him by about a car
Thank you ;)
That guys got so mach facking torque! Gotta love that Massachusetts accent! Shoot, I mean Mexician;)
hehe nice didn't really expect mazda to be ahead
I love how "mexico" is right near my house haha!! Let's link up I got a genjuan spd3
Who said anything about traction on the Evo? The speed3 was having a hard time getting traction since he is putting down about 100 more tq than my Evo. I plan to get a custom tune on 93 and E85 in the spring then see what the outcome is.
I wonder which car it was talking about when it said "no traction". I hope it wasn't taking about the evo. The only evo I seen that had no traction had about 900whp.
Mods?
impressive
I have a 2008 speed 3 but I’m always gonna be a dsm guy and still have a 2g eclipse gst.
This speed can easily take on the EvoX but I don’t think the outcome will be the same if he goes up against the true 4g63t.
This evo motor is trash!!
Got to love the Mazdaspeed 3 beautiful can and sounds amazing!!!
Good clip brother!
Finally somebody that actually knows what they are talking about. I've had a speed3, mustang 5.0 and now a Evo..... the Evo is nice but unless fully bolted and tuned on E85 or upgraded turbo there not the tastes things out there.
also, the gearing is different in a WRX compaired to the STI
Ive seen many mazdas beat many evos...
Course you have 😂
🔥🔥🔥
That new england accent at the end
I own both cars love them both!
Which one would you keep if you had to choose?
You need an intake, uicp, 3port and you'll take him. He was full bolt-ons and e-85...out-modded.
I read the comments on drag racing videos just to find the people who say "owner can't shift for shit"
I was shifting at 7k rpms. And for everyone who can't comprehend why the evo lost I will explain for the last time. Mazdaspeed 3 fully bolted and tuned on e85. Putting down 20-30whp and 70wtq more than my evo and is lighter. Common sense tells you the lighter more powerful car always wins.
@John khalaf @sharkkoz the car traps 110. Evo had mild bolt ons what did you expect.
@Etrician55 Not on a roll race my friend. Stock Speed 3's usually trap higher in the 1/4 mile than a stock Evo X's. You have no clue what your talking about. Your comment is obviously because your a fan boy. It's fine you like Evo's I do as well but I'm not ignorant lol. from a dig they are quicker(wrx/evo not the ralliart) but on a roll is a different ball game.
i like all 5 cars,evo,350z,mzdaspeed3,subaru wrx,m3
the Mazda speed was meant for circuit racing it handles pretty good I seen porches have problems staying up with it so I don't know what your talking about
.....so right, its not all about power but more about torque!!!
@rlegault84 Puttin down the srt-4 drivers eh? Sounds like someone is a lil butt-hurt. Jk lol good runs. Anymore more plans for the Evo? You know about map switching right? What year model is it?
And this is why I'm stuck between which car to buy -_-. I like both cars allot but I can't decide..
whats with mazda beating evo's and sti's?!?! now i dont want a sti anymore.
MazdaSpeed 3s are amazing cars man, if you like being a shock to people they're definitely the way to go. Or if you want to invest in an older car, MazdaSpeed 6s are just as great, and you get all wheel drive
Timothy Mize but why mazda killed the ms6?
by the way, this speed3 just ran 13.2 on street tires and trapped 109. Car is moving!!
Hahaha thanks man. Can't agree more
dat car has so much Tomahawk missiles in the engine
That car has so much fucking torque
No your saying it wrong, it's actually: "daht cuah hahs sohw muhch fwuck'n twuyk'"
Now once im tuned with a 3port ebcs and upgrade my stock bov add injectors and fuel pump and run e85 I can see the evo winning that race once dyno tuned.
ms3 all day have a 2012 love it
COMO YO PUEDO CONSEGUIR AL GUNA PIESA PARA ASELO TULBO
MEN CATA ESTA PAJINA
i got normal m3 and i like the 150hp altho its not much but still mazda makes nice cars and i love the evo it a beauty
correct!
yeah but its 100kg lighter and yeah the gearing is longer its better that way in straight lines when u have to shift so many times lol inefficient
better to have 2 gears to 100kph, a 3rd change at like 140 - 150kph then make it shorter at the top and ur last gear a long one for the freeway
post a video then of your evo
Speed3 e30 maps are no joke. Had both of these cars. And this isn’t even a fbo evo so of course the speed3 would pull.
First one was around 40-50mph I was in 3rd and spun. Next race was 4th for me at 50mph I just wanted traction right away haha.
tf were those tyres XD
@@thegiantgaming7592 bf Goodrich gforce T/A
Boston or Portland Maine... one of the two. I-95 or I-93? Or........! I-495??????
Boston area.. 128
Duh it's gonna win. More mods e85 and it's lighter than the evo. Love both cars ❤️
People forget Mazdaspeeds are good with mods too!
You don't not get traction in an evo from a 40 roll. Even if the road was a little wet
i didnt know there was a gloucester mexico haha
"That Cah haz so much fukin towk"
Oh and yes that is a patriots sticker on his back hatch.
Wasn't a sleeper to me. Lol I knew he had about 30whp and about 100wtq more than my car since it is not pro tuned like his was. By the way, this speed3 is for sale as it was traded in for a twin turbo awd ford Taurus SHO
Speed 3 very underrated my buddy's just spanked the shit out of a frs Im not sure about an evo but I wouldn't be surprised
What rims are on the Mazda? :)
I believe its from factory, they made rims black on 2013 model
+Vi to Okay thanks man!
Wasn't 2013 model mirrors are red
no surprise there the mps is very quick with a little bit of work. however non forged bottom unlike the evo means your very limited. put a red on that evo and dont look back.
Your E10 doesn't even sound like it's going at higher rev. It sounds like a day to day 5000 RPM shift... Idk, that's just me
Its pretty simple, one car is on E85 and one is not.
why do Evo owners waist there time racing from a roll. Mazda obviously has the advantage with FWD and E85.
Я конечно думал всегда, что Evo крутая машинка в скоростной езде, пока не узнал о Mazda 3 mps. Это спортивная машина, явно. Средний класс.
Not is the mph, is jow much rmp and control the rmps perfect
hahaha " that car's got so much fuckin torque". Classic.
No it wasn't directed to you bro, but as I'm sure you know there's so many evo owners that talk mad shit about ms3s, just like homay was tryna talk smack about you, Its just you'll never hear an evo owner say ya, I lost fair and square and ms3s are quick, there's always some srry as excuse evo owners make. Your evo is dope.
you sound like you're from Boston. "That cahhs gahht so much fahhckin toyrque"
That cah hos goat so much fawking tork... Boston much?
Evo needs a new driver and maybe just MAYBE it might have a chance against the ms3. Doubt it though :-)
I own a fully bolted tuned speed and my friend has a 2012 EVO fully bolted and E85 tuned also and he whoops all of our crew...Give the Evo the same Mods and Tune and they win plain and simple. Again not hating on my own car at all love it to death but you cant argue with AWD baby and that evo engine..
RESPECT BOSTON
I'm an Evo guy, but common sense says lighter and more whp = faster from a roll. Plus when rolling, less drive wheels are better, unless you have stupid power.
you obviously dont know about these cars then. If it was from a stop, the evo would walk away, but from a roll, the ms3 spanks evos and subarus all day.
mazda and speed in the same word?
oh clueless people
Damn son....its all good. When he gets tuned and I'm bt, the station wagon is catching frequent ass whoopins hahaha...you should probably specify your numbers are to the wheels btw to eliminate any stupid comments. Just saying lol
Lol mexico the first sign definitely said Manchester
Its def a evo, bolted ms3's especially running an e85 mix will do that over and over again
the ms3 is a legit quick car, but a dig the evo would win, but its still lower than an ms3
Your comparing a car tuned on e85 vs. a car (evo) on pump. Of course the mazda should pull. Run em both on 93 pump better comparison
Yes that is bug Jim and yes we are from ma
AWD got no chance from a roll with less power, less torque & heavier.... The longer the race goes the fwd will win....