The SIN of Sodom and Gomorrah was NOT what you think!
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- Опубликовано: 24 мар 2023
- What was the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah in Genesis 19? While it is often assumed to be about homosexuality, such an interpretation misses the ancient context. In this video, I dig into the primary sources from a critical academic perspective and show how the sin of Sodom changed over time.
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Sources:
In addition to the primary sources shown on screen there's a lot more additional academic sources than usual for this video so I've broken them down by topic:
Genesis 19 Sources:
- Scott Morschauser (2003). ‘Hospitality’, Hostiles and Hostages: On the Legal Background to Genesis 19.1-9.
- Bolin, T. M. (2004). The role of exchange in ancient Mediterranean religion and its implications for reading Genesis 18-19.
- Hamilton, V. P. (1995). The Book of Genesis, Chapters 18-50 (Vol. 1).
- Hunt, M. (2013). The two daughters of lot (Genesis 19: 1-38)
- Kugel, J. L. (1999). The Bible as it was
- R. Alter (1996). Genesis
- G. Athas (2016). Has Lot Lost the Plot? Detail Omission and a Reconsideration of Genesis 19.
- See also comments on Judges 19 by Cheryl Exum in Fragmented Women: Feminist (Sub)versions of Biblical Narratives (2015, p. 145)
Ezekiel Comments on Toevah:
- Ezekiel 1-20, Moshe Greenburg (Anchor Bible Commentary)
- Ezekiel 1-19, Brownlee (World Bible Commentary)
Male Sexual Violence in the Ancient World:
- Herodotus, Persian Wars 8.105
- Pomponius, "whatever man has been raped by the force of robbers or the enemy in wartime (vi praedonum vel hostium)" ought to bear no stigma" - Digest 3.1.1.6
- www.shilohproject.blog/the-se...
- adamjones.freeservers.com/male... (I have not been able to verify the primary sources for all the claims made in this paper about Persian violence, but have provided similar examples in the video and here in the sources).
- Eurymedon vase, depicts a Persian soldier about to penetrate a defeated enemy with his penis
- Balawat Gates, depicts prisoners of war being carried away naked
2 Samuel 10 Commentary:
- Hospitality and Hostility: Reading Genesis 19 in Light of 2 Samuel 10 by Nathan MacDonald
Jude Commentaries:
- 1 Peter, Jude, 2 Peter - Harrington (p. 197)
- William Loader, The NT on sexuality (2012, p. 335)
- R. Bauckham, Jude
- Reese, Jude
Philo's views:
- The Perception of Women in the Writing of Philo of Alexandria, Dorothy Sly (Thesis)
The inferiority of the receptive partner in the ancient Mediterranean:
- Myths and Mysteries of Same-Sex Love By Christine Downing
- Eros: the myth of ancient Greek sexuality, Bruce S. Thornton
- Bible Now, Friedman and Shawlansky
Sodom and Gomorrah in Philo and the early Church:
- The Sin of Sodom in Late Antiquity, Eoghan Ahern
- The Changing Face of Sodom, Part I by David Clark in Between Medieval Men: Male Friendship and Desire in Early Medieval English Literature
Between Medieval Men: Male Friendship and Desire in Early Medieval English Literature
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Judges 19 has a very similar story. Man comes into town with his wife/concubine, has no place to stay the night. A townsman welcomes them into his house. The townfolk knock on the door, demanding to rape the newcomers. The host offers his wife, and eventually the visitor ends up sending his wife out to be raped. Everything is fine. She is left the next morning on the doorstop. Everything is fine. She is dead. Everything is not fine. The visitor chops her up and sends out pieces of her body to the twelve tribes, calling them to judge the town. (The town is in Benjamin, The Benjamites defend the town, and are eventually eradicated until only 600 Benajmites remain...) The town is Gibeah, like the place Saul came from. Isaiah may be talking about this town as Geba, and Hosea references this whole fiasco 3 times.
Pedophilia could be considered an abomination. The early German translation of this passage used a word that translates to "boy", as in a male child, so, the passage should say, "Man should not lie with a child as would with a woman".
I mean they got other scripts for homosexuality like Leviticus18:22-23, 1 Corinthians 6 9-13, 1 Timothy 9-10, Romans 1:26-32 and Hebrews 13:4 when they defined marriage only being between a man and woman
Surprise yourself by looking at all the occurrences of the words "sodomites" and "abomination."
Great work Lachie. And an Aussie to boot, which is another plus. I'm sure you don't need me to tell you that this presentation won't make any difference to people's opinions. Society seems so bifurcated these days, and people's opinions are so entrenched, you'll have folks like me who will back you 100%, and then you'll have others lighting their torches and sharpening their pitchforks, condemning you to burn in hell for all eternity. And never the twain shall meet. At any rate, keep up the good work.
G'day. It does feel that way sometimes. But I do think there are lots of people out there open to learning new things :)
Agreed. 👍
(1 Corinthians 15:39-40) describes the distinction of different flesh. That is what Jude 6 -7 is referring to. "39 Not all flesh is the same, but there is one flesh of human beings, and another flesh of animals, and another flesh of birds, and another of fish, 40 and heavenly bodies and earthly bodies. But the glory of the heavenly bodies is of one kind, and the glory of the earthly bodies is of another kind."
Interesting
Lot ,abraham's nephew knew his fellow city men that they were not fully homosexual. He said in genesis 19: 8Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them to you, and you can do to them as you please. But do not do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.” The sin was not homosexuality but the sin of trying to have sex with angels. It says strange flesh in Jude 1:7. this was the sin of genesis 6:1 too where even angels were never to have relations with humans either.This time it was the vice versa.
Insightful video. I liked how you made it a point to show how Sodom was used as a literary device regarding pure decay/ depravity. People sometimes are too narrow with the sex ethic the Bible holds. I would like to ask while Sodom’s sin may not be what we thought are you suggesting the Bible itself has no say on the matter? Your language sure seems to imply that. I look forward to a response or a new video
Your channel is something i have been waiting for a long timee
Glad you enjoy it!
There are multiple divisions of the year in the bible. One is Winter (Shem/Nahor), Spring Japheth/Abram), and Summer (Ham/Haran). Typically Winter = Flesh, Spring = Bread, and Summer = Wine. Genesis one divides the year into Winter aka the six nights/signs of Libra thru Pisces (autumn equinox - spring equnox) and six days/signs of Summer aka the six signs of Aries thru Virgo (spring equinox - autumn equinox). This gives us 180 days of "summer" or light/day and 180 days of "winter" or night/darkness.
Some of the myths use a modification where the first night/sign/month (Libra) is moved above the equinoctial line and added to Aries - Virgo to give us 210 days of summer and 150 days of winter. This 150 days of winter is expressed in Rev. 9.5, where Scorpio is the leader of the five months that can harm man aka winter the season of hardship and hunger. The sodomites are nothing more than these evil winter months whose signs are Scorpio, Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius, and Pisces. Sagittarius, the first "rainy" month is Gomorrah and Scorpio (cursed throughout the bible) is Sodom. These five "evil" signs/months are also the five sons of Ha Shem who is also Pluto, Hades, and Maha Bhagha (Magog) and of course Vishnu.
Are you justifying homosexuality bro?
Sounds like he is. Earned the dislike. Doing a lot of mental gymnastics to try and justify it
I don't think he is justifying homosexuality, but correctly interpreting passages with context, history, and correct analysis.
Christianity will pass. Homosexuality remains forever. Just accept it. Homosexuality is here to stay. It always has and it always will be.
@@heinmolenaar6750Homosexuality is a sin which must be repented of.
@@heinmolenaar6750God does not accept homosexuality.
you said what the sin was in the beginning, it was about men wanting to have sex with men.
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Did Abraham make the same MISTAKE Sodom made ? (and Lot's wife had to indemnify Abe's err) ? The more important query is : what was ( continues to be e sin of Gomorrah ) .... forcing Sodom's judgement
Take II :: WAS THE FRENCH REVOLUTION A BETTER "EVOLUTION [application] OF THE LAW" ?
The same sins God destroyed other cities such in the days of Noah , Nineveh etc . There are NO ranks with sin which fosters hypocrisy.
@@phillipjames5365 murder, then. Unbridled and uncontrollable. Hence the attempt at "judgmental sodomy" over Gomorrah ... Too bad for the Sodomites that the GomMorans were biologically weaponized. Banishment (to the outer spaces didn't work) -still isn't workable- ... And look what Abraham's compassionate bargaining got him .... Query: if Abraham had the audacity to question the judgement of GOD, then do you "believe" GOD gave Abraham the opportunities to "finish" the job ... with the example of Lot's wife's foolishness as guidance? Lot's Family was "without" though Abraham brought them back from the "outer realms" of Sodom & GOMORRAH (sin [is a place by then knotted to the actions of the sinners]). Therefore, tell me your [dystopian] planer Earth ... Are the people the problem or the place?
@@phillipjames5365 also & BTW: NINEVEH just entered a ancient alibi ... "D.BA." as Mosul ,NOW. ... Similarly, " Braintree , MA - d.b.a. "Quincy, MA - U.S.". Hypocrisy? WHO is making that civil war, WHO governing that SLAVERY. (I DON'T LIKE IT.)
It’s interesting how well you took the time to misinterpret scripture to support the sin of homosexuality. I will make a respond video to this to point out where you have gone wrong.
Can't wait to see it.
Ahh, that makes so much sense!!! So Sodom and Gomorrah is kind of like how Egypt was an all over the place cultural memory that stood for freedom in earlier parts of the bible. Also, if Sodom and Gomorrah was used as a symbol for various kinds of evil before the story of it was written in Genesis why didn't it list the various evils of the earlier sources or make them a bit more apparent, also do you think the story floated around as an earlier cultural memory before being composed? Sorry for all the questions, all around amazing video!!!
It's fairly well established that "places" can evoke certain feelings, emotions or social stigmas. For example, I grew up next to a suburb that everyone would joke about being crime-ridden. You only had to say the name of the suburb and people would laugh or scoff - it evoked certain perceptions and feelings. I think Sodom was something like that, a place that evoked negative emotions in the cultural memory of Israel.
While I do personally think the Genesis story probably was written after texts like Isaiah and Ezekiel, it's not certain - and there may have been an older core to the Genesis story. I suspect the Genesis author didn't feel they needed to be specific - if everyone already knows this is a bad place, imagination does a lot of the heavy lifting. There's lots of plausible literary reasons why the Genesis author wasn't more specific, we can only guess.
Of course he doesn't think that's out of them go Moorhead anyting deal with homosexuality cuz he's a homosexual himself.
Where do you think the word Sodomnity came from.?
@@chrisshelt4506 Easy tiger
@Chris Shelt The fact that it's literally explained in the video how the name Sodomy became associated with homosexuality tells me all I need to know about you 🤦🏾
@@TabletsAndTemplesthanks for youre take on sodom and gomorrah ,theres a series from the history channel called the bible secrets revealed they also explained it was inhospitable to strangers a place of pride and ruthlessness and cruelty and most of all they wanted to gang rape strangers who they should be caring for as they told lot We will do worse with you than we plan to do with them !thats not consentual sex thats gang rape in the ancient near est hosiptality especialy among bedouin cultures was highly regared even when God and the 2 angels visited abraham he washed their feet and feed them all he had the scribes who composed this story seem to have had at times a bias against cities as they seem to see them as places of pride and corruption ,but its clear this crime was cruelty to guest not homosexuality as people think theres a story in judges 19 called the levite and his concubine 🙄boy thats something it shows how gang rape accourd when the benjamites wanted to rape a levite priest the only thing is that theres no angels in this story the priest throws his wife to these crude men who do to the woman what they intented to do to the man rape 🙄uhh what a story
اِلَّاۤ اٰلَ لُوْطٍ اِنَّا لَمُنَجُّوْهُمْ اَجْمَعِيْنَۙ
“லூத்தின் கிளையாரைத் தவிர, அவர்களனைவரையும் நிச்சயமாக நாம் காப்பாற்றுவோம்.
(அல்குர்ஆன் : 15:59)
اِلَّا امْرَاَتَهٗ قَدَّرْنَاۤ ۙ اِنَّهَا لَمِنَ الْغٰبِرِيْنَ
ஆனால் அவர் (லூத்) உடைய மனைவியைத் தவிர - நிச்சயமாக அவள் (காஃபிர்களின் கூட்டத்தாரோடு) பின்தங்கியிருப்பாள் என்று நாம் நிர்ணயித்து விட்டோம்” என்று (வானவர்கள்) கூறினார்கள்.
(அல்குர்ஆன் : 15:60)
فَلَمَّا جَآءَ اٰلَ لُوْطِ ۨالْمُرْسَلُوْنَۙ
(இறுதியில்) அத்தூதர்கள் லூத்துடைய கிளையாரிடம் வந்த போது.
(அல்குர்ஆன் : 15:61)
قَالَ اِنَّـكُمْ قَوْمٌ مُّنْكَرُوْنَ
(அவர்களை நோக்கி எனக்கு) அறிமுகமில்லாத மக்களாக நீங்கள் இருக்கிறீர்கள்” என்று (லூத்) சொன்னார்,
(அல்குர்ஆன் : 15:62)
وَجَآءَ اَهْلُ الْمَدِيْنَةِ يَسْتَـبْشِرُوْنَ
(லூத்தின் விருந்தினர்களாக வாலிபர்கள் வந்திருப்பதையறிந்து) அந் நகரத்து மக்கள் மிக்க மகிழ்ச்சியுடன் வந்து சேர்ந்தார்கள்.
(அல்குர்ஆன் : 15:67)
قَالَ اِنَّ هٰٓؤُلَاۤءِ ضَيْفِىْ فَلَا تَفْضَحُوْنِۙ
(லூத் வந்தவர்களை நோக்கி:) “நிச்சயமாக இவர்கள் என்னுடைய விருந்தினர்கள். ஆகவே, (அவர்கள் முன்) என்னை நீங்கள் அவமானப்படுத்தி விடாதீர்கள்;”
(அல்குர்ஆன் : 15:68)
وَنَجَّيْنٰهُ وَلُوْطًا اِلَى الْاَرْضِ الَّتِىْ بٰرَكْنَا فِيْهَا لِلْعٰلَمِيْنَ
இன்னும், நாம் அவரையும் (அவருடைய சகோதரர் மகன்) லூத்தையும் அகிலத்தாருக்கெல்லாம் பரக்கத்தான - பாக்கியமுள்ள - பூமியாக நாம் ஆக்கியுள்ள (பைத்துல் முகத்தஸில்) ஈடேற்றம் பெறச் செய்தோம்.
(அல்குர்ஆன் : 21:71)
وَلُوْطًا اٰتَيْنٰهُ حُكْمًا وَّعِلْمًا وَّنَجَّيْنٰهُ مِنَ الْقَرْيَةِ الَّتِىْ كَانَتْ تَّعْمَلُ الْخَبٰٓٮِٕثَ اِنَّهُمْ كَانُوْا قَوْمَ سَوْءٍ فٰسِقِيْنَۙ
இன்னும், லூத்தையும் (நபியாக்கி) - நாம் அவருக்கு ஞானத்தையும், கல்வியையும் கொடுத்தோம்; அறுவறுப்பான செயல்களைச் செய்து கொண்டிருந்(தவர்களின்) ஊரை விட்டும் அவரை நாம் காப்பாற்றினோம்; நிச்சயமாக அவர்கள் மிகவும் கெட்ட சமூகத்தினராகவும், பெரும் பாவிகளாகவும் இருந்தனர்.
(அல்குர்ஆன் : 21:74)
وَقَوْمُ اِبْرٰهِيْمَ وَقَوْمُ لُوْطٍ ۙ
(இவ்வாறே) இப்ராஹீமுடைய சமூகத்தினரும் லூத்துடைய சமூகத்தினரும் (பொய்ப்பிக்கவே முற்பட்டார்கள்).
(அல்குர்ஆன் : 22:43)
don't forget about Romans 1 26 to 27
Nice! I cover this story in much the same way in my online course.
Interesting, I'll have to check it out!
The two angels were Zeus/Jupiter and Hermes/Mercury. They came dressed as beggars and were denied hospitality. Ovid's Metamorphoses.
The word of God is eternal! It is not affected by tlime, nothing has changed and never will!!
When Lot arrived at Zoar, the Sun had risen upon the earth," i.e., it was the beginning of summer (Gen. 19.23). It was then the Lord overthrew the cities of Sodom - winter was succeeded by summer, and the Lord (atmosphere) rained down from heaven "fire and brimstone" (thunder and lightning, these usually making their appearance at the close of winter) upon Sodom. But Lot's wife (Iscah = who looks back), poor woman, looked back (Virgo setting headlong, and facing the earth), she couldn't help it, and was turned at once into "a pillar of salt," i.e., she went down into the briny sea.
After this, Lot (the hidden one) and his two daughters (Virgo at the two equinoxes) dwelt in a cave in the mountains (the night hemisphere in summer), for he feared to dwell in Zoar (Gen. 19.30). Here, following the example of his illustrious predecessor Noah, he got drunk. His two daughters, very unlike Noah's two pious sons, took a course the opposite of theirs, and the result was two sons - Moab (Aquarius) and Ben-ammi = the son of Aries = the summer solstice, being the same as Ishmael and Isaac.
The two visiting angels were Zeus and Hermes who also visited Abraham and Sarah. The third angel was Neptune.
WTF is this??? Couldn't even read it to the end. Arrrrrgggghhhh
WTF is right...😮
Hey babe, sodom and gommorah never really existed. All stories from the old testament are myths. Nothing really happened. The bible is iron age mythology. Christians don"t live according the acient jewish laws of leviticus. The laws of leviticus are outdated and idiotic. But christians love to quote leviticus to attack homosexuals. Leviticus: when a man lie with a man as with a woman....i shall lie with whomever I please. It's n'one of anyone's business.
I appreciate it your passion, but I thought that the likes Joel Baden and Bill Loader have also made it quite clear on what the Old and New Testament authors think of gay relationships.
Sure, but we can't assume that all authors had the same view, particularly across the two corpuses (corpora?). Each passage should be dealt with in its context. This video is focused on ancient interpretations of Sodom and Gomorrah. I'll get to other passages in due time.
Actually, the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was exactly what it's always been. Genesis 19:4-5 Now before they lay down, THE MEN OF THE CITY, THE MEN OF SODOM, both old and young, all the people from every quarter, surrounded the house. 5 And they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are THE MEN who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us THAT WE MAY KNOW THEM." This clearly points to homosexual desire and thus God's extreme judgment upon them. In Hebrew, to "know" in this context, and others in the Old Testment, refers to sexual activity, e.g Adam knew his wife. The same situation is seen in Judges 19. Verse 20 says, "...certain men of the city, perverted men, surrounded the house and beat on the door. They spoke to the master of the house, the old man, saying, "Bring out the man who came to your house, that we may know him." Again this is clearly refering to homosexual activity. Just the facts....
yes, go on justifying.
It meant not being welcoming.
Leviticus is clear on it. It’s even called an abomination
A man will not lay with another man.
Christians don"t live according the acient jewish laws of leviticus. The laws of leviticus are outdated and idiotic. But christians love to quote leviticus to attack homosexuals. Leviticus: when a man lie with a man as with a woman......I shall lie with whomever I please. It's n'one of anyone's business.
I shall lie with whomever I please. It's n'one of anyone's business
You can understand by the offer of Lot that having sex with his daughter was lesser sin than having abominable homosexual sex with those male angels.
Christianity will pass. Homosexuality remains forever. Just accept it. Homosexuality is here to stay. It always has and it always will be.
A father who literally was ready to offer his two virgin daughters to the mob instead of himself and he was let go by god?
A father who literally was ready to offer his two virgin daughters to the mob in steeds of himself and he was let go by god?
It seems you didn't paid attention in this video. Willing to rape these "strangers" wasn't committed to sexual lust like if they raped women, they probably weren't attracted to them, they only wanted to hurt and humiliate and hurt someone from outside their community. It wasn't worse because of preferring man, it was worse because of xenoforbia. It wasn't the point of wahat was giving sodomites more pleasure, it was about what will hurt and humiliate someone who'se not alike them. Probably
so Angels are MALE and have penises?
Yes, it does give address, give a description of sexual sin.
You sir are very wrong about THE HOLY WORD OF GOD
GOD Help you
1cor 6:9-10
I feel like dude gay and wants it to be about something else…people being gay wasn’t the whole reason but it was part of it
I think that evil people did go after the holy angels of God they deserved the punishment that they got.🎉
Man do you support LGBTQ or you don't.
Or is it a right thing or not
Homofobia is a sin
The word of God is Truth and changeless against time and academic intepretations.
May b your not familiar with the story,jeremiah is talking about Israel, because Sodom n Gomorrah has been destroyed already. N in leviticus it says its ,it is an abomination. Read the story.
And I agree with them doing other bad stuff to
It was homosexuality, without question.
Something close to "Homosexuality" wasn't mentioned in relation to Sodom and Gomorrah until Plutarch who lived around 500 years after the story in Genesis was produced. And there are at least four earlier ancient interpreters make no mention of anything close to that.
It’s clear that was one of the things done in sodom and Gomorrah along with a bunch of other wickedness, sexual immortality is a broad term that includes homosexuality and is wickedness
"Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me."
"STRANGE FLESH"???
Be careful of false prophets 😢
Indeed, that's why we're all about seeking the truth through evidence based research ;)
All religious teachers and leaders are false.
I rather stay with the Holy Bible!
Of course;God’s words will always be consistent! Unchanged. His Is Holy, righteous, trustworthy!
According to ancient Roman mythology and Ovid's Metamorphoses (8.631, 8.720.), Philemon and Baucis had lived out their long lives nobly, but in poverty. Jupiter, the Roman king of the gods, had heard of the virtuous couple, but based on all his previous experiences with humans, he had serious doubts as to their goodness.
Jupiter was about to destroy mankind but was willing to give it one final chance before starting over again. So, in the company of his son Mercury, the wing-footed messenger god, Jupiter went about, disguised as a worn and weary traveler, from house to house among the neighbors of Philemon and Baucis. As Jupiter feared and expected, the neighbors turned him and Mercury away rudely. Then the two gods went to the last house, the cottage of Philemon and Baucis, where the couple had lived all their long married lives.
Philemon and Baucis were pleased to have visitors and insisted that their guests rest before their little hearth fire. They even lugged in more of their precious firewood to make a greater blaze. Unasked, Philemon and Baucis then served their presumably starving guests, fresh fruits, olives, eggs, and wine.
Soon the old couple noticed that no matter how often they poured from it, the wine pitcher was never empty. They began to suspect that their guests might be more than mere mortals. Just in case, Philemon and Baucis decided to provide the closest they could come to a meal that was fit for a god. They would slaughter their only goose in their guests' honor. Unfortunately, the legs of the goose were faster than those of Philemon or Baucis. Even though the humans were not as fast, they were smarter, and so they cornered the goose inside the cottage, where they were just about to catch it.... At the last moment, the goose sought the shelter of the divine guests. To save the life of the goose, Jupiter and Mercury revealed themselves and immediately expressed their pleasure in meeting an honorable human pair. The gods took the pair to a mountain from which they could see the punishment their neighbors had suffered -- a devastating flood.
Asked what divine favor they wanted, the couple said that they wished to become temple priests and die together. Their wish was granted and when they died they were turned into intertwining trees.
You brought out some interesting points. But God did NOT destroy the Cities on the Plain because of whatever later Biblical Scholars taught! Further, the most "abominable" since in God's understanding from the very beginning was anything that violated God's VERY FIRST command to living creatures and then to Man: "Be Fruitful and Multiply" and fill the earth. Sodomy, by its very definition is a violation of this command. Further, the Genesis account describes the IDEAL situation is that a Man & a Woman be united and become "one flesh". Homosexuality also violates this plan of God.
From the very beginning, Satan has been working to thwart God's plan for the world. To this day, there are people exercising Satan's plan by violating marriage, prevention of children's birth, etc. Homosexuality is indeed a "detestable" act; which is also confirmed in Romans 1:18-32. God's wrath will be revealed against man for suppressing the truth with their wickedness.
Beautifully sad
Homosexuality is one of it..
Absolutely it’s clearest day that was one of the wicked acts of the people of Sodom and Gomorrah. Dude in the video is clearly trying to cope. No other way to put it.
@@Danigxxiiithen why do people only focus on that?
@@edhen143 Sorry it looks like my comment was deleted for some reason, do you know what I said by any chance?
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Behold there shall be many false prophets
Thank you for calling me a prophet, you're too kind 😊
@@TabletsAndTemples a false one no less
@@TabletsAndTemples” You false prophet，if anyone twisted the word of God will not be unpunished. Repent and return
@@toniwhy8415 No twisting here, just good ol' fashioned cultural context :) Thanks for your support! Like and subscribe.
@@TabletsAndTemples I agree. Doesn’t sound like twisting, more like honest dissection and research of the texts. Great job! Don’t listen to simple minded folks who choose sloppy faith over careful reason.
You on here misinterpreting scripture clearly STRANGE FLESH IS HOMOSEXUALITY
They wanted to have sexual relationship with the angels. whether you like it or not.
Wow, amazed that you leave key verses that explain the sin of S&G was homosexuality.
Amazing how you use certain words to device and twist the meaning of scriptures.
It was difficult for me to watch this, it’s difficult to listen to people blatantly lying while smiling.
Have you no fear of God?!!!!
Agree, people want to justify their sin any way they can, even by twisting scriptures.
So, in the original Hebrew there are two different words that both would translate to be abominations. Leviticus, provides an example of each. For instance, eating pigs would be an abomination because while it did have split hooves, it did not chew it's own cud therefore making it unclean to eat (an abomination). However, the other form of abominations included child sacrifice with homosexuality listed right underneath it. To be specific, it is worded as 'if a man lies with another man as he would a woman, that is an abomination.' I have also heard the argument that the NT does not say anything about homosexuality. However, Jesus talked a lot about sexual immorality constantly pointing back to the OT. Remember, back in the day, the people would have immediately known all of the sins associated with sexual immorality without having to spell out each sin. The Bible is very clear on its stance on homosexuality.
The same word (toevah) is used for both dietary violations as well as the sexual sins of Leviticus 18 as well as a whole host of other things like collecting interest on a loan and violence.
The fact of the matter is, Toevah refers to something that is culturally taboo.
The pig represents the evil winter season. Remember the black boar who killed Adonis?
You conveniently left out 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 where it specifically says that "homosexuals will not inherit the Kingdom of God" therefore, out of the will and grace of God. In addition, you utilize other resources outside of the Canon. It's best to use canon to explain canon.
I find it interesting that this guy conveniently reduced "sodomy" from being intimate relationships between members of the same sex to being something as simple as being treated "inhospitably" by an employee at a fast food restaurant. He conveniently left out Romans chapter 1. Enthusiastic try..... but no cigar. Doesn't pass the smell test.
You're conflating two different passages. Paul in Romans 1 doesn't use the term Sodomy nor does he make any reference to Sodomy and Gomorrah. Romans was also written around 500-800 years after Genesis 19. So it has no bearing on what the author(s) of Genesis has intended.
@@TabletsAndTemples you absolutely do reduce the acts of the people of Sodom and Gomorrah to just being inhospitable. And Genesis. It clearly says they were looking to have sex with the angels. The men of Sodom and Gomorrah referred to the angels as men. This is one example of the wickedness that consumed Sodom and Gomorrah. And probably the most disgusting. The sins of Sodom and Gomorrah were abundant and diverse Genesis makes that very clear
Woe to you dude twisting God’s word 😢
A man does not lie with a man the way a man lies with a woman -Leviticus 18:22 & 20:13
🙏THIS KIND OF TEACHING USE GOOD, BAD, UGLY SYNONYMS & ANTONYMS FOR FOR YOU TO GO TO HELL... IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST... I WAS DELIVERED BY THE GRACE OF ALMIGHTY GOD...
"King James Bible is truth in this world of Satan's", filthyness is homosexuality. Biblical definition is the truth -Jesus.
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Just don’t read it literally
And youre wrong again, if your true intent is to help your fellow, you will never ask your viewers to support you or help you through any means.. So it's safe to say that you don't even know that the lord of this land is upon you.. just saying
obviously you gay bro😂
This is a classic example of cherry-picking to support a predisposition. You have completely ignored 2 Pet 2:6-9. Sodom & Gomorrah were destroyed for constant (day after day) and highly visible (Lot saw and heard it) defiling passion and despising of authority. We know that the defiling passion was homosexuality because that is what they attempted to do to the angels (even in the face of being offered Lot's daughters). The made up notion you offer of humiliating an enemy is laughable in virtue of the fact that there is no textual support to indicate the men of Sodom saw them as an enemy. They wanted sex with the pure and simple. That is the only inference you can legitimately infer from the text. But we also know that it had nothing to do with what happened in Gen 19 because those were mere attempts at defiling passion and there is no indication that either Lot or the men of Sodom had any idea that they were angels, so cancel your interpretation of the Jude passage. And further the angels were on their way to destroy the town in Gen 18 before any of the events of Gen 19 happened. Sodom & Gomorrah were ALREADY under sentence of destruction for constant indulgence of defiling passion and despising authority.
Respectfully, 2 Peter says nothing about homosexuality, or even anything sexual. You have just inserted that yourself.
@@TabletsAndTemples All I can say is wow.
@@doughawkinson1918he's so blind, and leading the blind. Bible speaks of that. All we can do is tell the truth and oray for them, but if they don't listen thats on them.
@@TabletsAndTemples Deuteronomy 29:4
2 Corinthians 4:4
@@doughawkinson1918 sodom and gommorah never really existed. All stories from the old testament are myths. Nothing really happened. The bible is iron age mythology. If you believe all that nonsense really happened, then you have the mind of a 10 year old child. Grow up man.
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Christianity will pass. Homosexuality remains forever. Just accept it. Homosexuality is here to stay. It always has and it always will be.
The speaker here is showing how ignorant he is and trying to twist scripture 😩😩😩😩
Very true he is questionable
Hi there - for clarification - no, the word "homosexual act" was not used - however - the bible uses the phrase "to know" in the context of sexual intercourse - compare the story of adam and eve after the fall - and then the story of the men of sodom clearly voicing what exactly they wanted to do with the angels - whom they did not recognize as angels but rather as "attractive men" .... However - allow me a personal viewpoint - the spiritual "state" of Sedom & Gomorrah must have been extremely low - considering that - according to the story - all men, straight and gay and bi were supposed to wanting to rape strangers, visitors and Lot offering his virgin daughters????????????? He must have been a low life then as well - and i better not think about his daughters getting their father drunk and having had sex with him
1st Mose 4.1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
1st Mose 19.5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.
This is a great example of your own bias influencing your interpretation. No where does the text say the men of sodom found the strangers "attractive". Yet you have asserted confidently that the reason they wanted to have sex is because they were "attractive men". This bias is the whole reason I made this video.
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did you seriously getting hung up on the word - attractive? i can´t believe it. Please use some common sense here. If the strangers (angels in this story) had been some ugly creeps the men of sodom wouldn´t have bothered.
Why ELSE do you believe wanted the men of sedom have intercourse - YES THEY WANTED IT - again, the phrase " to know" is used for sexual intercourse - if you are familiar with the bible - and i believe you are - otherwise you wouldn´t be studying the biblical stories - then you KNOW IT! Stop acting as if you didn´t and stop trying to justify your thoughts on this subject. It is crystal clear for all to see and read.
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@@TabletsAndTemples the bible is clear about anal intercourse - let´s "call the child by its proper name" after all it´s 2024 ....lev. 20.13 - there is a reason why God calls it an abomination - refrain from it at all times - for your health, for your well being. Jesus acknowledged that there are 3 kinds of people NOT FIT TO MARRY - Matthew 19. 12 - same sex attracted people belong to the first group ... (think a little around the edge - not t h a t difficult), now find some peace after you hopefully come to some useful conclusion - and NO - simply by acknowledging that fact of life - Jesus NEVER contradicts his father - now you have the key - open the door and be free and take good care of yourself ☺
did you really get hung up on the word "attractive"? I can´t believe it! If the visitors (angels in this story) had been some ugly creeps, the men of sedom wouldn´t have bothered ... Please use some common sense here! Yes, acc. to the story the men of sedom wanted sexual intercourse- "to know" is the biblical term for it. If you are familiar with the bible - and i believe you are- otherwise you wouldn´t be studying these stories, then YOU KNOW IT. Stop justifying your own thoughts!There is a reason why the bible is clearly outspoken against anal intercourse - let´s call the child by its correct name, after all, its´s 2024 - refrain from it, avoid it - for your health, for your well being, for everybodies well being. In Matthwew 19 Verse 12 Jesus ACKNOWLEDGED that there are 3 goups of people NOT FIT TO MARRY - think a little bit around the edge - it´s not that difficult - and NO - Jesus does not contradict or minimize his fathers command by ACKNOWLEDGING that there ARE people who are same sex attracted. Pauls explanation in this case falls a little short ...but then he is not Jesus. There is only one teacher with divine knowledge and that is HIM - Jesus. . Now here is YOUR key to freedom. Open the door be free and find peace AND TAKE GOOD CARE OF YOURSELF..@@TabletsAndTemples
The word of God is timeless. We all know that homosexuality is wrong
God says homosexuality is wrong but gives a green light to incest. What a perfect deity.
What are you talking about? Being gay is not a choice unless you yourself can choose to be gay. But more importantly the video is about the narrative which factually models other stories of ancient world and parallels Judges 19.
We all know homophobia is wrong. It's a sin.
@@heinmolenaar6750 why might you say that though, that is, based upon what? And if it is a religious text, through what basis do you reach this interpretation; and furthermore what is the basis for the claims made by any such text to be valid or truth?
@@bhavinmehta1490 if you're not completely immoral, then you just know homophobia is a sin.
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Yet another example of making, quite frankly, feeble excuses for drifting away from God's word. We've been warned about it in 2 Timothy about people having itching ears. That means that we'll listen to anyone who will sympathize with sin and make us feel better about it. It's tragic how easily false teachers are followed. Your explanation reminds me of the scribes and Pharisees who omitted the weightier matters of the law; a blind guide who strains at a gnat and swallows a camel, and ultimately crucifies Jesus.
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@@TabletsAndTemples I was confused by your answer at first, but I just now realized that you have no idea what I’m referring to.
@mmd195401 Oh no he does, he's just hilarious at the same time 😂
Homosexulaity is a sin , this guy is twisting the plot to hes liking . Plz see another video on the subject that explains this story objectively .
Leviticus 18:22
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Yes everyone plz see another video, maybe instead watch "dan mcclellan: what was the sin of sodom and gomorrah?"
Homophobia is a sin.@@Zailaz
@@Zailaz christians don"t live according the acient jewish laws of leviticus. The laws of leviticus are outdated and idiotic. But christians love to quote leviticus to attack homosexuals. Leviticus:- when a man lie with a man as with a woman......i shall lie with whomever I please. It's n'one of anyone's business.
@@Zailazsodom and gommorah never really existed. All stories from the old testament are myths. Nothing really happened. The bible is iron age mythology. If you believe all that nonsense really happened then you have the mind of a 10 year old child. Grow up man.