Rafay FYI, There is a very posh area in West Delhi called Punjabi Bagh which is quiet famous for its elite club and a big garden called 'Baba Natha Singh Vatika' in his remembrance. Most of the inhabitants in New Delhi are Khatri Hindus & Sikhs who are refugees from western part of Punjab (now Pakistan).
My parents when they migrated from Amritsar had all their possession on their heads when they walked on foot to Lahore, and we virtually with our hands --my father and all the children built our only home. We lived for many years in half built home. We walked very gently on the roofs because it made cracking noise. We still hand-pump in that home. Later on we installed floors and repainted the home. We had only one ceiling fan in our home. We had our first refrigerator and first black tv after many years. Allah bless Pakistan. My parents were born in India, I was born in Pakistan and my children born in USA. Please my friends and readers help and save Pakistan-it is precious and don’t be thankless.
You act like you and your family did something heroic. If there was no Partition your family wouldn’t have to have left India 🇮🇳. Nobody forced you and your family to leave. “Pakistan” cannot be saved. “Pakistan” should have never been created.
@@1525boy You are right. Muslims demanded partition. But after partition many muslims didn't even leave. This is why there is a huge muslim population in India. So partition was a result of islamic mentality and Two state solution. Muslims completely subscribed to these ideology.
@@1525boy it wouldn't transpire so just because you wish it. We are seeing the state of Muslims in India and thank Allah SWT for this country. No matter how bad it is today, but it will get better and even if it won't, the freedom from the RSS ideology and hindutva extremists is enough to happily live in a sovereign state.
Rafey, It was wonderful listening to your story, been to your house long time back to meet your grandmother Mrs Alam, for my sister’s admission to her Montessori maybe in 1973-74. I am glad the house came to the people who could cherish it and take care of it lovingly and used it as a seat of learning.
I kept struggling to remember you and finally I recalled that you took Physics tuition from me in your O level. Nice to see you Rafay. Sir Shaharyar Qureshi here
Many non - Bengali and Urdu speaking people living in East Pakistan went through the same situation. Their houses were taken over as ‘ abandoned property. Hindus in former East Pakistan suffered the same during Partition.
Thank you. It was lovely to go down memory lane. I can remember your great grandparents also and of course Your parents , Scherzade and Shabaan. Your grandmother’s father Col Salamatullah was a true Pakistani also and contributed to education.
In jaisay loge partition say pahlay ameer toe na thay aur na he inka Pakistan bananay mein aur iskay liay qurbani dainay mein koi hissa tha. Yeh toe false claims aur Pakistan ki loot maar ker kay overnight feudal lords bun ga-ay. Ab in jaisay logon say yeh sub hazam naheen hota, Issi liay yeh apna jaali grandeur display kernay kay aur apni superiority sabit kernay mein lagay rahtay hain. Becharay complex kay maaray, Inhain apni qaumi zuban mein baat kertay huwau bhi sharam aatie hai. Aisay logon ko Pakistan aur iski ghareeb awam say kya wasta?
I remember being in that house several times back in 80’s and 90’s. I thought younger people have no interest in knowing their real history. Very nice. ❤
Mrs. Alam's Nursery caught my eye, for this was my first Alma mater. I did my class one then was admitted to the Convent of Jesus & Mary, Lahore. I still have memories of playing in the large garden in front of the building, wearing a special pinafore for artwork and climbing steps as our classroom was on the first floor. Thank you for sharing, good narration
@@SyedAZafar-ji9gm one such case was Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto. His family claimed buildings here against their properties in Bombay. Right after that he filed a case for his properties in India. This was brought up in the Indian Parliament later, which caused a lot of embarrassment.
@@hinmin12 Very true. Thanks for bringing in such an eye opener for the public who think these thugs of Pakistan are messiahs and what not? The amazing part of this planned thuggery of Pakistani feudal lords is that those who really sacrificed for Pakistan and migrated to Pakistan are considered refugees and second grade citizens of Pakistan, and quota system was imposed on them, and it does not stop here. These Urdu speaking migrants in Pakistan were denied their rights of taking over the properties of Hindus who left Pakistan in return to what they left in India but these Sindhi waderas spared no chance in grabbing Hindus' properties through false claims.
It's great to see the video. In the 1970s, I studied at Toddlers Academy as well. We used to play in the large garden behind the building. I still recall one of my favourite teacher's name. I wonder where she is now. When I pass through that area, I pay special attention to the backs of the buildings that housed our classes.
Thank you so much for sharing this. My first school 63-64. On one of my visits to Pakistan I took my 5 year to meet Mrs. Alam. Also remember running away if we were on court 1 or 2 at Gymkhana club & Alam sahib came. My parents (Prof. Basharat & Prof Yusuf always spoke so highly of them. Upper Mall surely has its history and stories.
Loved listening to the story and how well articulated. Thank you for sharing! We have many memories of the school, my own children also studied there. My father’s uncle was very close to Mr Alam… general Faruki… and of my dearest friend Sheherezade Alam, we fondly called her Bibi Jan ❤️ I spent so much time with her at the home at upper mall and she stayed with us when I moved to London… Maza aa geya!
So proud to have studied in The Toddlers academy year 1987-1990 I still remember my art class in the garden on wooden benches with tall trees around ..... Then to The Salamat Schoool Now I came to know that it was named after your great grandfather. Mrs Salamt was related to Mrs Alam so after completing my kindergarten..were referred to The Salamt Academy (back then )...gulberg.. aaahhhhh.... nostalgic
Very refreshing to hear you talk abt a time that has gone past with knowledge and clarity. Not many people today understand or appreciate that time or period. I liked your reference to Khuswant Singh and Mansoor Qadir - you should talk more about that period to cover stories of people and their live.
My mother was one of the first children to study in toddlers academy. She has such good memories of the school. She especially remembers that warm glass of milk they were given daily
I have seen this property many times, when we used to go and order suits from Shaban Alam's Cochese. Great great property and the mannerism of Shaban Alam tells a lot about values of the family.
What a story to educate long lost expatriates with a connection to Lahore. Thank you very much. Wish families like yours could’ve done more to help uplift the masses in those early days before our next colonial masters in Pindi took over.
The allotment was supposed to be in exchange for a kind property that anyone left/abandoned in India. Did your grandfather has to abandon a similar property? I doubt as he stayed in India for many years after 1947 and could have sold it before moving to Pakistan or he may not have owned a house in India that was abandoned. Please clarify that. Otherwise, it may and will sound like opportunists who took more than what they left and got richer at the expense of poor illiterate and desolate people uprooted from their homes in India.
You are absolutely right. Actually, yeh woh loge hain jin kay liay kaha gya keh "Aisay waisay kaisay kaisay ho ga-ay aur kaisay kaisay aisay waisay ho ga-ay"
My grand father was incharge of allotments in his district he could have taken alot, but he did not even take one house for himself, I heard from my mom many stories of false claims. That was a huge scam in that era. It's factual
So sad to hear abt.ur grandmother. Inna lillahe wa inna alayhe rajyoon. I am an alumni of toddlers academy n also worked there in early 2000. Your GM was my mentor. I learned a lot from her. Still remember her n talked abt.her with my acquaintances. May allah rest her soul in peace n give her higher place in jannah. Ameen. I remember when you got married n came to your grandparents house. I was there at that time. Aunty alam was a gem of a person. A real inspiration for all those who spent time with her, worked with her, learned from her.
مجھے یہ سب سُن کر نے حد اچھا لگا آپ نے نہت خوبصورتی سے ساری تاریخ بیان کی ماشاء اللہ شاندار فیملی بیک گراؤنڈ کاش میں میں یہ یادگار تاریخی گھر دیکھ سکتی۔
How amazing! I have grown up in Upper Mall, my elder siblings have attended The Toddlers Academy and I have the fondest memories of crossing Toddlers Academy and having the guard there smile and wave at us, every single day for as long as I can remember.
Allotted ?? Why ? For what ? Wealth generated based on corruption. My grand parents left their house and came to Karachi at the time of partition not after and were not allotted any house equivalent to what they left in India. They worked hard to get to what they achieved nothing was easy for them - mind you they were all educated and teaching in Uni’s back in India. The struggles for them was long.
Ver well and truly said. Yeh becharay partion kay baad kay jaali ameer jinhon nay Pakistan ko siwaa-y lotnay aur cash kernay kay na toe inhonay Pakistan banany kay liay koi qurbani dee ar na he kabhi Pakistan ki khidmata ki aur ab Pakistan kay malik aur khaliq banay baitahu hain.
Same question regarding Zaman Park. Why it was allotted Burkis and Niazis? Remember Imran Khan's family DID NOT IMMIGRATE FROM INDIA but moved to Lahore from Wazirabad. (I am not sure about the time line of which came first: the allotment and then the move -most likely- or moving her and then getting the allotment. I do know one of their relatives was running the EPTB at the time...)
Nothing personal, and i admire your stroy telling skills. However, your story is the story of elites, powerful and well connected people. Sadly masses did not have similar experiences.. consider urself lucky.😅
This video is a classic case study of lewd name dropping-where the emphasis seems to be more on name-dropping and connections rather than sharing meaningful history or insights.
I'm an old student of your grand mother's school Toddlers Academy I have beautiful memories of it and it was the best montessori school of that time. I still remember James the gate keeper and Agha store because I was also a resident of Upper mall. Have my beautiful child and adulthood memories there just left that house few years back. 😢
Thank you 🙏 for sharing your family history . partition trauma never left my parents who migrated from Jullander . Pakistan 🇵🇰 remained alien before they shifted to England 🏴 in the late 50s. I was born in a village near wazirabad , to this day we are called Muhajirs
@@anniekamran6434my village is called Bharoki Cheema, it’s 6-8 KM south of waziiabad . When anyone uses the term Muhajir , it’s in contempt implying you are Not One of us, you don’t belong here . Are you from wazirabad ?
@@mtsardar yes I'm from wazirabad and my in laws are from lahore and they are from Amretsar and we all respect them because of their struggle and being muhajar (which is an honour).May be the time has changed too now people can understand the sacrifices and behind Hijrat.
A treat to listen to you, Rafay. I always like your style of narration. I love the past of this city and this clip has added to my understanding of this city.
Thanks Rafay Alsm sb. for sharing this amazing story. I always is an admirer of your interest in environmental and climate change issues, this side was not known to me earlier.. My maternal side is from Lahore and your story reminds me the stories my grand mother (nani) and my mother use to share with us about life in Lahore.
This is a wonderful story. I am happy for the members of both the lucky families. May their friendship increase. This is some good moments in an otherwise gruesome tragedy of enormous proportions.
Brilliant Rafe Khan Saab.. stories live. Thank you for keeping this alive. Love the sitar playing in the background. Must be difficult to live in today's Lahore and Pakistan.
I'm fortunate to be a part of this Toddler's Academy legacy.......I can't forget Aunty Alam and her wonderful family ever in my life......I had my beautiful childhood and teenage with them. ❤
For your kind information, the real original Muslim elites /old families of Lahore were very few, it was a city with more Hindu and Sikh elites. The old Lahoris used to live inside the Walled City , families like Fakirkhana , Hakimkhana, or the Qazilbash Nawabs that lived outside the city on their estates ; or the Mian (Arain) family of Baghbanpura and such .
@nixtallas 100% AGREE MY FAMILY IS IN LAHORE SINCE MOUGHL'S TIMES, SEEN THE SIKH ERA AS WELL, THESE ARE LAND GRABBERS OF 1947. HE NEVER MENTIONED THAT WHAT THEY LEFT IN INDIA? !!!! JUST LIKE IF ALEEM KHAN'S GREAT GRAND SON, START CLAIMING THAT " HIS FAMILY WAS BILLIONAIRE "
Very nice Alam sahib,my sister studied in Toddlers Academy in 1974,her sons studied here in 2000,and my own daughter studied here in 2000-2002. Its a beautiful mansion and very well manitained.There used to be a old white convertable car parked there.Most likely a MG
We grew up on Masson Road and Lawrence Road. My parents too moved from Amritsar to Lahore Partition time but did not claim any house or property. Have relatives both sides.
My maternal great grand father Zahooruddin Khan was Manzoor Qadir’s neighbor on Lawrence road . They had migrated to Lahore from Patiala after partition . All the names you have mentioned do ring a bell . Shall share this video with my mother . Thank you for this 🫶🏼 Love listening to happy partition stories .
@@armaanbrar6596 no . They never felt the desire to return . Many others went back to visit but not them . The Haveli is still there . Have seen it in photographs only . One day I want to take my mother back to her birth place IA.
Poor soul......what a heart wrenching story he told........sitting at a beautiful beautiful place in the heart of lahore.where you enjoyed mesmerizing winters springs and many vitalizing rains......this guy is least attached to this city.......BECHARA PHANSA HUVA HAI .....from his story it is obvious that neither his elders had much love towards LAHORE. A rare addition in LAHORE NAAMA the story of ungrateful souls LAHORE could not make them lahories.
Why so bitter? He seems very proud to be a Lahori and very grateful for what his family has been blessed with. He told the history of his family and the place they call home now. Many people who migrated from India didn’t have roots here but Lahore was always so welcoming and helped everyone make a new home in this beautiful city. Don’t be a hater!!
Beta Sherzad Alam was your mother me And she studied Sacred Heart school my son and daughter first school was toddlers Academy my son Nasir Raza went to Air Force he got Sword of honor he was a fighter pilot he just passed away 6 months ago 😢. It was1970 when my children went there Allah bless you
Sardar Bahadur Natha Singh. Family was Randhawas. My great grandfather. He even owned the Pioneer newspaper. His sons studied in Chief's college. I would like to get in touch with Rafe Alam.
Very interesting ji, Sardar Natha Singh Ji was a well-known name in the British Punjab during the 1930s-40s. Was your grandfather one of his sons? Did he also go to Aitchison (Punjab Chiefs) College ? Which years ? What was his name please ? Both my father and grandfather were also old Aitchisonians, from those times. My grandfather served for some time in the Indian civil service in the 1930s and 40s, in the Punjab and UP.
@@samitakaur hello g and many thanks for sharing the nanes of your elders at Aitchison (Chiefs) College Lahore. Sadly, my father passed away, he might have remembered them. Of course your great-grandfather Sardar Bahadur Natha Singh Ji was well-known in Punjab, he was a prominent senior engineer wasn't he ? Hectruce remained the President of the Punjab Engineers Congress /Council (1937-38 and again 1938-39 I think )? Is that the same personality ? If you are Randhawas then your ancestors must have come to Lahore from East Punjab ? Mostly Randhawas came at that time from Amritsar or Gurdaspur?
So basically your ancestors served British.. you did not mention what your grand father left in India for which you got this house. Or was it just Qurban sahab s gift?
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This is Called elite capture.
Seems like a story of privilege more than friendship
Rafay FYI, There is a very posh area in West Delhi called Punjabi Bagh which is quiet famous for its elite club and a big garden called 'Baba Natha Singh Vatika' in his remembrance. Most of the inhabitants in New Delhi are Khatri Hindus & Sikhs who are refugees from western part of Punjab (now Pakistan).
My parents when they migrated from Amritsar had all their possession on their heads when they walked on foot to Lahore, and we virtually with our hands --my father and all the children built our only home. We lived for many years in half built home. We walked very gently on the roofs because it made cracking noise. We still hand-pump in that home. Later on we installed floors and repainted the home. We had only one ceiling fan in our home. We had our first refrigerator and first black tv after many years. Allah bless Pakistan. My parents were born in India, I was born in Pakistan and my children born in USA. Please my friends and readers help and save Pakistan-it is precious and don’t be thankless.
there are number of people whom you can count on fingers. they destroyed our country and its people for their interests.
Those were people who sacrificed and not the ruling class.
You act like you and your family did something heroic. If there was no Partition your family wouldn’t have to have left India 🇮🇳. Nobody forced you and your family to leave.
“Pakistan” cannot be saved. “Pakistan” should have never been created.
@@1525boy You are right. Muslims demanded partition. But after partition many muslims didn't even leave. This is why there is a huge muslim population in India.
So partition was a result of islamic mentality and Two state solution. Muslims completely subscribed to these ideology.
@@1525boy it wouldn't transpire so just because you wish it. We are seeing the state of Muslims in India and thank Allah SWT for this country.
No matter how bad it is today, but it will get better and even if it won't, the freedom from the RSS ideology and hindutva extremists is enough to happily live in a sovereign state.
Rafey, It was wonderful listening to your story, been to your house long time back to meet your grandmother Mrs Alam, for my sister’s admission to her Montessori maybe in 1973-74.
I am glad the house came to the people who could cherish it and take care of it lovingly and used
it as a seat of learning.
I kept struggling to remember you and finally I recalled that you took Physics tuition from me in your O level. Nice to see you Rafay. Sir Shaharyar Qureshi here
He should soon acknowledge your message Sir
@@vidhusingh2060 Thank you dear
You have many students all over Lahore Sir, including me
@@asifameerhussain6411 Thank you Asif and stay blessed
What a lovely space to find you, Shehryar sb (Scarsdale Tuition center, Gulberg) 🙂
So proud of you Rafay Alam grandson of Alam sahib. At least you could give us this history of Lahore.
Many non - Bengali and Urdu speaking people living in East Pakistan went through the same situation. Their houses were taken over as ‘ abandoned property. Hindus in former East Pakistan suffered the same during Partition.
Interesting anecdote Rafay sahab.
The partition was a tragedy of unimaginable magnitude. Pray our future generations see a better world..
Thank you. It was lovely to go down memory lane. I can remember your great grandparents also and of course Your parents , Scherzade and Shabaan.
Your grandmother’s father Col Salamatullah was a true Pakistani also and contributed to education.
Bechary ghareeb rull gy thy .. Ameer to us waqt bhi mazy sy AA kr shift ho gy thy ..
In jaisay loge partition say pahlay ameer toe na thay aur na he inka Pakistan bananay mein aur iskay liay qurbani dainay mein koi hissa tha. Yeh toe false claims aur Pakistan ki loot maar ker kay overnight feudal lords bun ga-ay. Ab in jaisay logon say yeh sub hazam naheen hota, Issi liay yeh apna jaali grandeur display kernay kay aur apni superiority sabit kernay mein lagay rahtay hain. Becharay complex kay maaray, Inhain apni qaumi zuban mein baat kertay huwau bhi sharam aatie hai. Aisay logon ko Pakistan aur iski ghareeb awam say kya wasta?
Exactly
So the affluent should be looked down upon ? The 'ghareeb' didn't bother... basically.
I remember being in that house several times back in 80’s and 90’s. I thought younger people have no interest in knowing their real history. Very nice. ❤
Wow, what a beautiful true story! Thank you for sharing Alam sb.
Stay blessed!❤
Mrs. Alam's Nursery caught my eye, for this was my first Alma mater. I did my class one then was admitted to the Convent of Jesus & Mary, Lahore. I still have memories of playing in the large garden in front of the building, wearing a special pinafore for artwork and climbing steps as our classroom was on the first floor.
Thank you for sharing, good narration
All the big houses in Lahore were allotted to people with connections.
They were alloted against the houses they left there. What is wrong with that?
And false claims.
@@SyedAZafar-ji9gm one such case was Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto. His family claimed buildings here against their properties in Bombay. Right after that he filed a case for his properties in India. This was brought up in the Indian Parliament later, which caused a lot of embarrassment.
@@SyedAZafar-ji9gm exaggerated claims.
@@hinmin12 Very true. Thanks for bringing in such an eye opener for the public who think these thugs of Pakistan are messiahs and what not? The amazing part of this planned thuggery of Pakistani feudal lords is that those who really sacrificed for Pakistan and migrated to Pakistan are considered refugees and second grade citizens of Pakistan, and quota system was imposed on them, and it does not stop here. These Urdu speaking migrants in Pakistan were denied their rights of taking over the properties of Hindus who left Pakistan in return to what they left in India but these Sindhi waderas spared no chance in grabbing Hindus' properties through false claims.
It's great to see the video. In the 1970s, I studied at Toddlers Academy as well. We used to play in the large garden behind the building. I still recall one of my favourite teacher's name. I wonder where she is now. When I pass through that area, I pay special attention to the backs of the buildings that housed our classes.
Thank you so much for sharing this. My first school 63-64. On one of my visits to Pakistan I took my 5 year to meet Mrs. Alam. Also remember running away if we were on court 1 or 2 at Gymkhana club & Alam sahib came. My parents (Prof. Basharat & Prof Yusuf always spoke so highly of them. Upper Mall surely has its history and stories.
I am a generational lahori. Knew of his family but this was a delight to watch. Nostalgia
Here on Indians side the rich of lahore majorly settled in punjabi bagh in delhi.
Interesting to know. :)@@armaanbrar6596
Nice to see someone so interested in their heritage. Proud of you brother. Stay blessed
Loved listening to the story and how well articulated. Thank you for sharing! We have many memories of the school, my own children also studied there. My father’s uncle was very close to Mr Alam… general Faruki… and of my dearest friend Sheherezade Alam, we fondly called her Bibi Jan ❤️ I spent so much time with her at the home at upper mall and she stayed with us when I moved to London…
Maza aa geya!
I grew up in Bawa Park with unparalleled memories. This guy is right on the money on his info and historical facts! Well done!!
I have worked in toddlers academy for many years they are very nice people its a beautiful and calm place
I feel,this is how,history is preserved . Thanks
So proud to have studied in The Toddlers academy year 1987-1990
I still remember my art class in the garden on wooden benches with tall trees around .....
Then to The Salamat Schoool
Now I came to know that it was named after your great grandfather.
Mrs Salamt was related to Mrs Alam so after completing my kindergarten..were referred to The Salamt Academy (back then )...gulberg..
aaahhhhh.... nostalgic
Mr Rafay Alam is very knowledgeable person and through this film and his words he brought alive parts of history which otherwise would have been lost.
Very refreshing to hear you talk abt a time that has gone past with knowledge and clarity. Not many people today understand or appreciate that time or period. I liked your reference to Khuswant Singh and Mansoor Qadir - you should talk more about that period to cover stories of people and their live.
Very interesting story beautifully explained I used to live in godley house with your father
My mother was one of the first children to study in toddlers academy. She has such good memories of the school. She especially remembers that warm glass of milk they were given daily
Yeh jo Lahore say muhabbat hai yeh kisi aur say muhabbat hai.....
Rafay...very nicely narrated.. a very informative and interesting post
I have seen this property many times, when we used to go and order suits from Shaban Alam's Cochese. Great great property and the mannerism of Shaban Alam tells a lot about values of the family.
What a story to educate long lost expatriates with a connection to Lahore. Thank you very much. Wish families like yours could’ve done more to help uplift the masses in those early days before our next colonial masters in Pindi took over.
"COLONIAL MASTERS IN PINDI". You are 100% right Kashif Sahib!!!!!
Wonderful narration. You are gifted.
Very interesting and informative history.
Glad to hear all that sweet memories of old times
Beautiful recollections. I remember Toddler’s Academy.
Our family lived in Ganga Ram Mansion on the Main Mall Road, after partition.
The allotment was supposed to be in exchange for a kind property that anyone left/abandoned in India. Did your grandfather has to abandon a similar property? I doubt as he stayed in India for many years after 1947 and could have sold it before moving to Pakistan or he may not have owned a house in India that was abandoned. Please clarify that. Otherwise, it may and will sound like opportunists who took more than what they left and got richer at the expense of poor illiterate and desolate people uprooted from their homes in India.
very few got the real claims,most got in the way that is prevelant in Pakistan by hook and crook
Honesty was/is rare trait.
You are absolutely right. Actually, yeh woh loge hain jin kay liay kaha gya keh "Aisay waisay kaisay kaisay ho ga-ay aur kaisay kaisay aisay waisay ho ga-ay"
My grand father was incharge of allotments in his district he could have taken alot, but he did not even take one house for himself, I heard from my mom many stories of false claims. That was a huge scam in that era. It's factual
The biggest human migration ever in history and you think things would've gone smoothly with allotments and claims?
Brilliant documentary about a period of history that is largely forgotten.
What a lovely heartwarming story. Much love from India....
This is precious. Thanks for opening up and getting it recorded it for us to savour
So sad to hear abt.ur grandmother. Inna lillahe wa inna alayhe rajyoon. I am an alumni of toddlers academy n also worked there in early 2000. Your GM was my mentor. I learned a lot from her. Still remember her n talked abt.her with my acquaintances. May allah rest her soul in peace n give her higher place in jannah. Ameen. I remember when you got married n came to your grandparents house. I was there at that time. Aunty alam was a gem of a person. A real inspiration for all those who spent time with her, worked with her, learned from her.
what a glorious past
Excellent, Alam Sahib, Salute you Sir
مجھے یہ سب سُن کر نے حد اچھا لگا آپ نے نہت خوبصورتی سے ساری تاریخ بیان کی ماشاء اللہ شاندار فیملی بیک گراؤنڈ کاش میں میں یہ یادگار تاریخی گھر دیکھ سکتی۔
How amazing! I have grown up in Upper Mall, my elder siblings have attended The Toddlers Academy and I have the fondest memories of crossing Toddlers Academy and having the guard there smile and wave at us, every single day for as long as I can remember.
Really pleased to listen him, he know everything so well , connection to such great history is kind of born lucky .. ..
Educated and powerful families from both sides of the border could help each others ( friends, relatives) during the partition.
That is what they were for.
Fascinating history. Old Lahore was beautiful. All of India was beautiful before the British forced mechanization on it.
Allotted ?? Why ? For what ? Wealth generated based on corruption. My grand parents left their house and came to Karachi at the time of partition not after and were not allotted any house equivalent to what they left in India. They worked hard to get to what they achieved nothing was easy for them - mind you they were all educated and teaching in Uni’s back in India. The struggles for them was long.
Ver well and truly said. Yeh becharay partion kay baad kay jaali ameer jinhon nay Pakistan ko siwaa-y lotnay aur cash kernay kay na toe inhonay Pakistan banany kay liay koi qurbani dee ar na he kabhi Pakistan ki khidmata ki aur ab Pakistan kay malik aur khaliq banay baitahu hain.
Get a life!
allotted in exchange for a house they left behind in India.
@@imrankhanyousafzai5461 yes false claims
Same question regarding Zaman Park. Why it was allotted Burkis and Niazis?
Remember Imran Khan's family DID NOT IMMIGRATE FROM INDIA but moved to Lahore from Wazirabad.
(I am not sure about the time line of which came first: the allotment and then the move -most likely- or moving her and then getting the allotment. I do know one of their relatives was running the EPTB at the time...)
Nothing personal, and i admire your stroy telling skills. However, your story is the story of elites, powerful and well connected people. Sadly masses did not have similar experiences.. consider urself lucky.😅
Very true.
I was thinking the same. My grandfather also came from Amritsar and his account is very different.
Life chose him...why should you or anybody be envious of it..
@@vtummalak I don't think anyone above is envious here. They are sharing their perspective and anecdotes.
@@vtummalak i dont know what made u think others are envious....assumption is mother of All FU...:)
I have the same interest and knowledge about history. Wish I was privileged enough to find time to explore and tell stories of Lahore as well.
This video is a classic case study of lewd name dropping-where the emphasis seems to be more on name-dropping and connections rather than sharing meaningful history or insights.
Ha ha!
رافع عالم! 😊آپ کا بہت بہت شکریہ ھم کو ھمارے بیترین❤پڑھے لکھے آپ کے دادی آپکے والد۔❤❤❤❤❤❤❤سلیوٹ انکو۔😊
I'm an old student of your grand mother's school Toddlers Academy I have beautiful memories of it and it was the best montessori school of that time. I still remember James the gate keeper and Agha store because I was also a resident of Upper mall. Have my beautiful child and adulthood memories there just left that house few years back. 😢
Enchanting history of lahore , explained in an marvellous manner . Though I’m based in london now , but one can’t take lahore out of you ever ❤
Thank you 🙏 for sharing your family history . partition trauma never left my parents who migrated from Jullander . Pakistan 🇵🇰 remained alien before they shifted to England 🏴 in the late 50s. I was born in a village near wazirabad , to this day we are called Muhajirs
Wazirabad what's your village name ?many families faced that but Muhajir is not a bad word it's an honour.
@@anniekamran6434my village is called Bharoki Cheema, it’s 6-8 KM south of waziiabad . When anyone uses the term Muhajir , it’s in contempt implying you are Not One of us, you don’t belong here . Are you from wazirabad ?
@@mtsardar yes I'm from wazirabad and my in laws are from lahore and they are from Amretsar and we all respect them because of their struggle and being muhajar (which is an honour).May be the time has changed too now people can understand the sacrifices and behind Hijrat.
I find the term muhajir offensive . We are all Pakistani 🇵🇰
@@mtsardar yes definitely
Deep historical memory you possess
A treat to listen to you, Rafay. I always like your style of narration. I love the past of this city and this clip has added to my understanding of this city.
what a history!!
Thanks Rafay Alsm sb. for sharing this amazing story. I always is an admirer of your interest in environmental and climate change issues, this side was not known to me earlier.. My maternal side is from Lahore and your story reminds me the stories my grand mother (nani) and my mother use to share with us about life in Lahore.
This is a wonderful story. I am happy for the members of both the lucky families. May their friendship increase. This is some good moments in an otherwise gruesome tragedy of enormous proportions.
Thank you for sharing this interesting story, will be sharing it with friends in India who originally belonged to Lahore
Very informative having depth details. Keep it up
Wonderful narration
Very articulate
Brilliant Rafe Khan Saab.. stories live. Thank you for keeping this alive. Love the sitar playing in the background. Must be difficult to live in today's Lahore and Pakistan.
Rafey thank you for sharing your family history . It was so interesting and brought back so many memories of Lhr in the 70s and 80s.
These stories are super interesting. I think a lot of us have stories of our grandparents having to swap cities during the partition.
that was a wonderful story. thanks for sharing
I'm fortunate to be a part of this Toddler's Academy legacy.......I can't forget Aunty Alam and her wonderful family ever in my life......I had my beautiful childhood and teenage with them. ❤
How well spoken this person is.
Cream of Lahore.
Cream of Lahore? Sounds very elitist
More like the disgusting clotted cream that came and screwed up original old Lahore after Partition /1947 😂
For your kind information, the real original Muslim elites /old families of Lahore were very few, it was a city with more Hindu and Sikh elites. The old Lahoris used to live inside the Walled City , families like Fakirkhana , Hakimkhana, or the Qazilbash Nawabs that lived outside the city on their estates ; or the Mian (Arain) family of Baghbanpura and such .
@nixtallas 100% AGREE MY FAMILY IS IN LAHORE SINCE MOUGHL'S TIMES, SEEN THE SIKH ERA AS WELL, THESE ARE LAND GRABBERS OF 1947. HE NEVER MENTIONED THAT WHAT THEY LEFT IN INDIA? !!!! JUST LIKE IF ALEEM KHAN'S GREAT GRAND SON, START CLAIMING THAT " HIS FAMILY WAS BILLIONAIRE "
@@omarkhan1006 Actually crap of Lahore
I remember few families migrated on Airplanes from india to Pakistan to India.
رافع عالم! 😊آپ کا بہت بہت شکریہ ۔ اس پیاری سی ❤❤❤جگہ کی معلومات ھم تک پہنچانے کیلۓ۔ کیا ھم دیکھ سکتے ہیں؟ لیکن آپکی موجودگی میں۔❤❤❤❤
Amazing antique furniture in good shape !
LAND GRABBERS OF 1947 PARTITION (ALEEM KHAN'S GRAND SON WILL ALSO CLAIM THIS KIND OF THINGS)
Well and truly said.
It wasn't like this. These are two very different stories.
I'm a Toddlers Academy alumni😂😂 best fun of my life. My teacher was called Miss Mahjabin. Gave me a head start. Ever so grateful🎉
Lovely to listen to the history of this place and time
Quite informative and very well articulated...
Very nice Alam sahib,my sister studied in Toddlers Academy in 1974,her sons studied here in 2000,and my own daughter studied here in 2000-2002. Its a beautiful mansion and very well manitained.There used to be a old white convertable car parked there.Most likely a MG
Beautiful reflections !
We grew up on Masson Road and Lawrence Road. My parents too moved from Amritsar to Lahore Partition time but did not claim any house or property. Have relatives both sides.
I had the privilege of attending toddlers academy, and I am still in an awe of the experience.
I recall meeting Mrs Alam when she came to AIE to hire staff for her nursery.
My maternal great grand father Zahooruddin Khan was Manzoor Qadir’s neighbor on Lawrence road . They had migrated to Lahore from Patiala after partition . All the names you have mentioned do ring a bell . Shall share this video with my mother . Thank you for this 🫶🏼 Love listening to happy partition stories .
Did they ever got the chance to visit patiala after the partition?
@@armaanbrar6596 no . They never felt the desire to return . Many others went back to visit but not them . The Haveli is still there . Have seen it in photographs only . One day I want to take my mother back to her birth place IA.
@@myramalik208 well thats great! On this side pretty much each and everything member of my family wants to visit lahore and nankana sahib.
@@armaanbrar6596 hope you can do that some day
@@myramalik208 i hope you too gets a chance to visit charda punjab.
Stay blessed bro love from India puna ❤
Very nostalgic memoirs
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Partition was blunder❤
Poor soul......what a heart wrenching story he told........sitting at a beautiful beautiful place in the heart of lahore.where you enjoyed mesmerizing winters springs and many vitalizing rains......this guy is least attached to this city.......BECHARA PHANSA HUVA HAI .....from his story it is obvious that neither his elders had much love towards LAHORE. A rare addition in LAHORE NAAMA the story of ungrateful souls LAHORE could not make them lahories.
Why so bitter? He seems very proud to be a Lahori and very grateful for what his family has been blessed with. He told the history of his family and the place they call home now. Many people who migrated from India didn’t have roots here but Lahore was always so welcoming and helped everyone make a new home in this beautiful city. Don’t be a hater!!
Good story teller.what a history
Phenomenal work.
Beta Sherzad Alam was your mother me
And she studied Sacred Heart school my son and daughter first school was toddlers Academy my son Nasir Raza went to Air Force he got Sword of honor he was a fighter pilot he just passed away 6 months ago 😢. It was1970 when my children went there Allah bless you
Thank you for sharing.
Partition was the second biggest tragedy of 20th century 😢
What was the first biggest tragedy?
A happy story indeed
How these houses survived this long?? Urbanization dint take over it, very impressive indeed!!!
Kya memories hain
Behtreen
Sardar Bahadur Natha Singh. Family was Randhawas. My great grandfather. He even owned the Pioneer newspaper. His sons studied in Chief's college. I would like to get in touch with Rafe Alam.
Very interesting ji, Sardar Natha Singh Ji was a well-known name in the British Punjab during the 1930s-40s. Was your grandfather one of his sons? Did he also go to Aitchison (Punjab Chiefs) College ? Which years ? What was his name please ? Both my father and grandfather were also old Aitchisonians, from those times. My grandfather served for some time in the Indian civil service in the 1930s and 40s, in the Punjab and UP.
my grandfather’s brothers S. Bikram Singh and S. Harjit Singh Randhawa. My grandfather was S.Gurdial Singh Randhawa.
@@samitakaur hello g and many thanks for sharing the nanes of your elders at Aitchison (Chiefs) College Lahore. Sadly, my father passed away, he might have remembered them. Of course your great-grandfather Sardar Bahadur Natha Singh Ji was well-known in Punjab, he was a prominent senior engineer wasn't he ? Hectruce remained the President of the Punjab Engineers Congress /Council (1937-38 and again 1938-39 I think )? Is that the same personality ? If you are Randhawas then your ancestors must have come to Lahore from East Punjab ? Mostly Randhawas came at that time from Amritsar or Gurdaspur?
@@nixtallas They were from Amritsar area. Yes, he’s the same person you are referring to.
@@samitakaur that's wonderful , thank you
Great History .
So basically your ancestors served British.. you did not mention what your grand father left in India for which you got this house. Or was it just Qurban sahab s gift?
I've seen this house many many times going to mall road through gulberg. Always wondered about its history glad I stumbled across this video.
I think if ever I will be asked of the saddest story I remember, it will be “ partition of India” . The most unfortunate of all times.