Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 DN ART Definitive Review | 4K
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- Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 DN ART Thorough Review | Build and Handling 02:10 | Autofocus Performance 10:10 | Image Quality Breakdown 16:13 | Summation 29:46 | Photographer Dustin Abbott shares the thorough, detailed review of the Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 DN lens for Sony FE or Leica L. Read the text review: bit.ly/24-70DNda | Visit the Image Gallery: bit.ly/24-70DNp... | Purchase the Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 DN ART @ B&H Photo: bhpho.to/2tlHuuT | Amazon amzn.to/3anhwaP | Amazon Canada amzn.to/2R59ED8 | Amazon UK amzn.to/3apK4Am | Amazon Germany amzn.to/38usQQX | Ebay bit.ly/24_70DN
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Dustin Ive come to realize your reviews are hands down the most informative, thorough and trustworthy of all the reviewers on youtube, you havent let me down once
That is really great to hear!
I just got this lens on my A7III and it is very sharp, almost as sharp as prime lens, and the AF is also very fast. I give this lens 9/10.
I agree on the sharpness rivaling that of a prime.
Thanks for the Astro samples!!!! Love the fact the you’re one of the few that consistently use this as a benchmark!
It's the most difficult thing to test as you are really reliant on the weather. In the winter where I live we only get clear skies at night on very rare occasions.
The Sigma 24 70 Art f2.8 is one of the best zooms I've tried. It's not far off from prime lens image quality.
That's true.
Thank you very much for your review! Awesome as usual. You're the hands down best on the youtube imo.
My pleasure.
Best reviews on RUclips! Hands down!
That's kind.
You always provide wonderful, simple to understand, and thorough reviews. Thank you for making these videos.
Thank you. I'm really glad to hear that.
Update: I have just tried both lenses and I completely agree with what you said. Tamron 2875 is absolutely better in terms of weight and portability. I'd like to use it more because better balance on Sony body.
And Tamron is DEFINITELY NOT "kit lens" level of build quality. (I was worried when watching others videos) No it's nonsense. It's quite quality built with consideration of weight and balance.
Your findings certainly agree with my own.
If I buy the Sigma, I will think about Tamron, if I buy the Tamron, I'll think about Sigma. I should first fix the vignetting and distortion issues in my brain and stop comparing the Sigma and Tamron. And probably just stick around with my FE 35mm f/1.8. Fantastic review. I loved each and every photo of yours. You have a unique passion for photography.
It is a tough decision, to be sure.
Great review! I was expecting this review and how the Sigma stands against the Tamron. I must say that the Tamron is still a good alternative. In Europe The Tamron is around 650 euros and the Sigma 1.120. In that case the Tamron is a no brainer.
That's a much bigger gap, and makes the decision a little harder for sure.
In my opinion, sigma doesn't stand against the Tamrom. They both have pros and cons that leveling their performance and for me inclinates little more to tamron, without including the price subject. If we include the price in the formula, as you said it's a no brainer.
It's what I was thinking, the sigma in uk I can get for 1050 pound the tamron for 530£ basically half the price of the Sigma, I could buy with the money saved a FE 35 1.8....that's a tough choice.
@@BlueShade88 Depends on the user. Someone who shoots landscapes will certainly want the 24mm.
Thanks Dustin. I bought the lens really early before many reviews were out and held my breath until you reviewed it! I've enjoyed taking photos with the lens and have been very happy with the autofocus and detail resolution on the a7RIV. PS: I really like this format of review for lenses that I either own or am thinking of buying. For other lenses, I enjoy the shorter format. Keep up the great work.
That's why I think the newer format is a good. It provides that option for those either seriously interested and those who are casually interested.
I was waiting on your review before I made up my mind about this lens, thank you
Glad to help out.
Great detailed review Dustin. Thanks for sharing. Cheers from LA.
Thank you!
Just made the switch from the Tamron to the Sigma about a week ago and while I love the Tamron for the value and size the Sigma to me offered me more in the areas I REALLY wanted but had to compromise on, (i.e. autofocus, build quality, qol features) and while I am still not sure if the extra expense was well worth it the sigma is just a blast to use. Either one is well worth it but I think with one or two firmware updates or even with just the profile added to LR the Sigma will be even better
Agreed. A firmware update and profile will make the lens a joy.
Great review as always!
Thank you!
@@DustinAbbottTWI you're very welcome!
What a complete, thoughtful and precise review! Not only did you answer all my questions, but quite a few additional ones t hadn’t thought of. My takeaway? The SONY G Master is a tad better than the Sigma, it’s certainly not $1,000 better.
Exactly.
Great video...!
Ive heard some people complain that sigma 24 70 came very dusty very quick, from inside i mean...
Is it true??
I can't comment on that. I didn't see that over my review period, but that was only about a month. The lens was on loan from Sigma.
My pre order from mid Dec shipped today! Super excited! Thanks for your review and tips.
Congrats. Enjoy!
What a great video. Thanks for your work and your thoughts.
My pleasure. Glad to help out.
Hi Dustin, should I get this lens for my first Sony (a7-4) as my first all-rounder. I am also getting Sigma 85mm + 105 Macro. But want some allrounder for video and photo for road trips, nature and so on where I do not want to carry more than one lens. Are there better options for this price and in this kind of focal length range?
My favorite travel lens on the Sony platform right now is the Tamron 28-200mm RXD. It's surprisingly good optically and obviously that is a very flexible focal range.
You are my favorite reviewer
Well thank you!
Great review as usual Dustin. I came here looking to see if I should replace my Canon 24-70 f/2.8L mk II but based on this I don't think I'll be updating. The AF will no doubt be better, but the IQ doesn't standout as offering any improvements. Don't forget the Sony GM version is the weakest of the big three, so I had expected the Sigma to surpass the GM but based on what I've seen it doesn't. If I didn't have a 24-70 already then based on price the Sigma would be the no brainer compared to the Sony. If I was fully committed to Sony I'd probably get the Sigma, but this year I expect to see huge improvements form the next gen Canon mirrorless FF cameras and their RF lenses are to die for as are the Nikon S line 24-70 f/2.8 and 70-200 f/2.8. I will hang off for another year or so and see what Canon and even Nikon offers. To me Sony's A7RIV was a disappointing update that in no way enticed me to update the A7RIII and it opens the door for the rumored Canon R5 and Nikon Z8/Z9.
That seems fair to me. The R5 could potentially be a serious disrupter in this space.
Did you get any dust into the front portion of the lens? Many people seem to have this issue :(
I didn't, but I only had the lens for 2-3 weeks.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Ok, thank you
I would love to see a review of this for the L Mount version. Great job!
Hi Dwayne, I don't actually cover Leica, so I'm afraid you'll have to look elsewhere for that.
Hey Dustin. Your reviews are awesome. Your perspective is probably my most trusted source for these camera reviews. Curious if you have any thoughts on how this Sigma lens compares to the Sony FE 24-105 F4? I have that lens, and although I like it as a travel/ general purpose lens, I am attracted to this Sigma because it seems like I would be able to get better, sharper images overall. But maybe it's not the lens but the photographer...
This lens is a bit sharper than the 24-105, but it's not going to be a radical difference.
Thanks for the review Dustin!
Purely in terms of visual look I think I like the matte look of the Tamron lens a bit more. Matte surface often feels softer and silkier to hold.
The Sigma has surface that is glossy, and surface that is matte, and they kind of visually clash with each other.
Interesting feedback. So far my copy of the Tamron has been nice and sturdy. I use it on a near daily basis either for stills or filming.
Sigma starts at 24mm and has a bit better bokeh quality... but 50% heavier than Tamron. Just tried it at a shop yesterday, but 830g feels so heavy in the hand - something I can only tolerate with a telephoto lens.
It is certainly the downside. Tamron played this one pretty smart. The focal length isn't as attractive, but the form factor is very appealing...as is the price.
In fact, Tamron combo weights just a hundred grams more.
@@opezdol Seriously? Then the difference between 24mm and 28mm pales in comparison to the difference between 17mm and 24mm. If you want to beat it, you need Sigma combo that weighs 1625g, oops!
Great video! How are the stepper focus motors on this 24-70? On the Sigma 35mm f1.2, you mention that the stepper motors stair step in and out for video manual focusing work. Great review!
They are very good (as you can see demonstrated in this video). Smooth and quiet.
Beautiful review. Bought this lens last night!
Hope you enjoy it!
I'm making a switch from Nikon APS-C to Sony full frame and am about to buy the Sony A7RivA. I have the budget for the Sony 24-70mm 2.8 GM, but have seen a number of reviews that say the Sigma is sharper than the GM; which is a major consideration when the 61mp will highlight every flaw in a lens. My main concern is image quality and autofocus. I'm not too bothered about how heavy the lens is. If you had the choice, budget was not an issue, but the ability of the lens to match and maximise the 61mp of the camera; which of the two lenses would you pick?
I would personally wait for the new Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 G2 that's about to drop, if starting at 28mm isn't a deal breaker. The MTF charts for the Tamron are stunningly good, and my Tamron contacts are saying it is amazing.
Do this has dust issue? I have heard some issue from few users?
Thanks for your reviews Dustin.
I want to ask you for advice, I am looking to optimize my daytime event equipment especially at the 50mm, 60mm distance! I am working with two cameras with the Tamron 20-40mm and Sony 70-200 GMII lenses and I want to move to one of the following scenarios:
Tamron 20-40mm + Tamron 35-150mm or
Sigma 24-70 DG DN + Sony 70-200mm GMII
What would be your recommendation for those two options or staying with what I have today? thank you so much
I love the Tamron 35-150mm, but the 70-200GM II is an amazing lens. I think I would stick with what you have and fill in with a 50mm(ish) lens. There are a lot of great options at varying price points now.
Thank you for another thorough review.
In your review, you compared the Sigma 24-70 f2.8 to the Sony GM and Tamron equivalents.
As time progresses, it is great that lenses improve, and it makes me consider upgrades.
I bought the Sony 24-105 f4 when it came out over 2 years ago, and which you reviewed favourably.
How do you think it compares now in image sharpness/image quality to the new Sigma Art? Is it
in the same professional class?
I previously traded extra telephoto reach for 1 stop less light gathering, and do use the full zoom range up to105mm.
But will the newer Sigma give a sharper higher quality image, especially in the corners?
Allan
I do think you would get higher resolution in the corners with the Sigma, but, if you use the extra 35mm regularly, you may want to stick with what you have.
Great review as always. Love the book collection
Thanks so much!
How do you think the newer DG DN compares to the older DG model for canon EF with an MC11 adapter? I've already picked up an MC11 to use the Sigma 70-200 2.8 sport, so the adapter cost isnt a factor for me.
The new lens is sharper.
Excellent review, however I would like to see a follow up regarding the on-going dust problems with this lens, the primary - and rather massive - issue with this lens.
I've definitely heard that from users, but that's only possible if I actually own a lens and use it long term...which isn't the case, here. I tested a loaner for about three weeks.
issue has long been solved. Zero problems since # 55641775.
I've had one tameron lens and it was so damn loud I couldnt use it for video. I need silent lenses and its HELLA hard to get that info out of reviews. Nobody seems to comment on the focus noise that the Sigma/Sony/Tameron make.
I actually demonstrate the sound of lenses in focusing during most of my videos. You obviously were using a much older Tamron lens. Most newer Tamron lenses (with RXD or VCD) are essentially silent, as are the new Sigma DN lenses like this one.
Any bokeh comparisons with the Tamron? That was one commonly mentioned complained at longer focal lengths, complex backgrounds, and mid-distances subjects (to show more gradual out of focus transition)
Frankly this is a rather tough time of year for bokeh comparisons. Winter is tough for defocus, as snow is too uniform and too bright to show minor variances. Furthermore, the definitive video was already over 30 minutes long, and I couldn't keep adding to it.
@@DustinAbbottTWI makes sense. When spring comes will you still have the lenses to add some comparisons to the written review?
@@johnnyc5922 I'm afraid not. The upside is that Sigma is really accommodating at getting me loaners when I need them.
Sony shooter here--having a heck of a time choosing between the sigma 28-75 2.8 or the sigma 24-70 2.8. Imostly shoot industrial and Real Estate. I don't shoot weddings. I already own the Sigma 14-24 lens. Do you have a preference Dustin? Opinions please....
If you have the Sigma 14-24, then I would actually go for the Tamron. It has fewer optical compromises due to having an easier focal range.
I second what J.O. said - super useful review. The only thing holding me back from getting this 24-70 is the potential of Sigma giving the DN treatment to their 24-105 f4 Art lens . . .
dopamining why not go for the Sony 24-105? It’s a really sharp lens with the same aperture plus built in stabilisation.
That's certainly a possibility. That's a fairly good lens that really didn't get a lot of play on DSLRs. If they could price it $400-500 under the Sony they could probably really move some copies.
@@xenonsens simply, price
Good review but I have a question, which is faster in autofocus speed Sigma 24 - 70mm vs Tamron 28 75 mm for video quick shots
I would say the Tamron
Great review! I have noticed a slight less contrast compared to the Tamron when shooting wide open. It’s not a huge deal. Also the colors are a tiny bit flatter than the Tamron. With CA it gave a very light bluish hue when shooting wide open in less contrast/cloudy type light. Overall the Sigma is very impressive and the extra 4mm on the wide end is far more appealing to me than the extra 5mm on the long end. I like using lighter lenses but I must admit this one feels very good and sturdy. It should be a big seller as the images are shared.
The Sigma is a nice lens, but yes, the Tamron is still a very strong performer.
Thanks for the review Dustin. I own both the Tamron 17-28 and 28-75 for Sony and I'm curious if you're running into the same troubles with color correction. I've noticed recently that I'm always pulling greens down in my photos and videos to get accurate skin tones with the Tamron lenses. I'm not sure if that's something I need to correct on my A7III's profiles or if it has to do with Tamron's lens coatings. Have you had a similar experience and does the Sigma or GM glass tend to handle skin tones better? Appreciate your time
Interesting, as I’ve not really had that problem. You may need to ok at your profiles. Almost all my videos are shot with the 28-75, for example.
I have the feeling that reviewers often forget that this is _not_ an Sony E-Mount Lense.
It is an L-Mount Lense that is also available for E-Mount, but the E-Mount Version is an modified Version of the L-Mount Version, not the other way around.
It was designed and bult for L-Mount and then modified/adapted for E-Mount (where it actually performs a little worse in the corners) and even on the SIGMA fp (which is way smaller than the A7III, A7R III or A7c) with the Large Grip attached, you have no issues that you touch the lense, nor on any Panasonic Bodies.
Also the L-Mount Version is 2mm shorter, still longer than the DSLR Version, but yes, it is still longer.
So some of the issues mentioned in the Video arerelevant for Sony Shooters, but are due to the this is not a Sony Lense. It is an L-Mount Lense also available in E-Mount, nothing more, nothing less.
Put it on an Panasonic or SIGMA Body and some of the issues are gone, that is something to consider.
Hi Vampir, I'm not entirely sure that the insinuation that this is a "ported" lens is accurate. All of Sigma's new DN line are simultaneously developed for both platforms, not first for one and then the other. That's from Sigma's engineers - not conjecture.
@@DustinAbbottTWI they say that to differentate from the DSLR Lenses which are just adepted to L-/E-Mount.
But I know from an SIGMA engineer that if something is possible on the L-Mount (and later RF/Z-Mount), but not possible for the E-Mount (due to being an APS-C mount), they will not release the lense for the E-Mount.
I am pretty sure that they have E-Mount in mind when developing the lense, but they are not developed for the E-Mount. Even the lenses now don't have all the features.
On the 105mm Macro for L-Mount for example you can adjust AF Speed and smoothness, that is not possible on the E-Mount.
Also the L-Mount versions support Tele Converters, the E-Mount doesn't.
The lenses developed with E-Mount in mind, but not for E-Mount.
The reason that TCs aren't available on E-mount is because of Sony protectionism, not because it isn't possible.
@@DustinAbbottTWI of course is it possible technically, SIGMA just doesn't care. They didn't really care for Sony A-Mount and they don't really care for E-Mount either.
All the SIGMA DG DN lenses came after the release of the SIGMA fp and Panasonic S-Series.
Sigma is developing E-Mount lenses since years, but they waited with their Mirrorless Series until L-Mount was ready and SIGMA had their own L-Mount camera. Sony shooters had to wait for the L-Mount camera and it will always be that way.
And as soon RF/Z-Mount take over, SIGMA will leave E-Mount behind like they did with A-Mount.
If the Sony 24-70mm gm was the same price as the sigma 24-70mm would you choose the GM? Or is there still reason to choose the sigma over the gm?
The Sigma is more compact. I would say the only edge for the GM might be autofocus consistency for video. Some people have complained about dust getting into the Sigma, too, long term, so the GM might be better sealed.
Great review! I'm glad it doesn't really tempt me to sell my Tamron (still one of my favorite lenses) I'd still buy this over the GM if the Tamron wasn't available. Also, I LOVE the focus chart! So much better than the bricks!!! I hope that is your new standard as it really shows off the sharpness and distortion at the same time.
It is my new standard, though I'm still fine tuning how to best present the chart results in my text reviews.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Love it! Thanks and I'm sure you'll come up with a good solution on those text reviews.
Depends if you shoot a lot of landscapes. Tamron would be a no-brainer for me it it started at 24mm
Hi Dustin!always the best reviews!in terms of only image quality,what do you prefer between Sigma 24-70 and Sony 24-105?(on A7RIII).
Thanks a lot!
Hmmm, interesting question. It depends on your needs, though I do lean towards a 24-70 F2.8 myself.
Every video I see says that this is just as good or better than the GM. I just got both and my GM is significantly sharper. I'm not sure if I got a bad copy of the Sigma. I'll test further this weekend.
That's interesting. I just went back and looked at the MTF charts for both lenses. It looks like the GM is stronger at 24mm, but the difference at 70mm is negligible.
Great video! Based on this and other videos I purchased this lens and find it a great combination for my Sony A7iii
I find it quit soft at nearby distances 30-50cm, you mentioned this in the video, and the hope that it might improve by firmware update.
apparently this has not been fixed, or do you have other information / experience?
I typically review loaners, so I rarely have long term experience with them. That's true here, unfortunately.
Summary: Sigma has flaring, ghosting and autofocus accuracy issues... Significant distortion with no Adobe lens profile to correct it... It is much bigger, heavier and more expensive then Tamron but sharing very similar IQ.
Honestly, I expected more from Sigma. Hopefully, their upcoming 70-200 f2.8 will be better.
P.S: Good review
I think saying it has autofocus accuracy issues is not a fair assessment. I had good AF results outside of one isolated incident.
Great review! Basically just sold me on getting this lens. However, I shoot weddings currently with a 35mm and 85mm prime. There might be a lot of overlapping with this lens but I guess the primes are always good for really low light situations and possibly being a tad more sharper.
I suspect it is the 35mm that will get used the least, as the 85mm provides something more unique.
Thanks for showing those astro shots :) !
This is a side hobby of me, so i wouldn't need an expensive extra prime lens.
Fair enough. Glad to help out.
Hi Dustin. Great review! I currently have the Sony 24-105. I am thinking of trading it in and buying two lenses First, the Tamron 28-200 for travel and hiking as the IQ is close to equivalent, the reach is much greater and the weight is lighter. Second, the Sigma 24-70 for events, indoor shooting and portraits because of the 2.8 and slightly sharper IQ. I already have the Tammy 17-28 and 70-180. Does this all make sense to you?
That makes sense to me. The Tamron is a great travel lens, and the 24-70 will be a good compliment to your 70-180 for event work.
Comprehensive video Dustin. Thanks for the great work. I am wondering if you had faced any trouble with dust getting in the front elements? I am on the verge of buying it and where I am from there is no official support for Sigma. Kindly share your experience on the lens as you have had it for a while now... it will be really helpful for me to decide!
Hi Rimo - I actually haven't had the lens for a while, as it was a loaner. The lens does have dust and moisture sealing, however, so it should be prepared for the elements.
Dust seems to be the primary issue regarding this lens. Disappointing that it wasn't addressed.
@@evilgeniusentertainment yeah but it does make sense not to include when reviewer loan it haha. Though if this is heavily used this couls be checked though
It potentially is a killer negative, and certainly one reason to seek out long term reviews....
Thanks for this great review! , I stopped the decision to buy a lens in that range of focal distance until watch your Sigma's review. And watching this it's more convenient to me the Tamron. The weight, the size and the price don't compensate the final image quality results. Also I'm from a very sun bright country from the Caribbean, the ghosting and flare could be a problem for me.
That's not to say that the Tamron doesn't flare in certain light, too, but not to the extent of the Sigma. But I'm glad the review equipped you to draw an informed conclusion for yourself.
Been waiting for this for way too long 😀 thanks!
Not sure how to take this, since the lens wasn't even available until December...
There were a lot of reviews earlier. I waited for yours to make the decision :)
Hi! Great review! thank you for sharing your knowledge. I wanted to know your opinion about this lens on an a6300 body. Since the 6300 don't have in-body stabilization, Will the image stabilization be an issue?
No more than it has always been for 24-70mm lenses. You'll just have to watch that your shutter speed don't drop too low.
Great review again Dustin. I love the new format. I found the Sigma to be significantly sharper in the corners than the Tamron when paired with an A7riv.
That doesn't surprise me, though I did find the Tamron a little stronger at the 50mm point.
@@DustinAbbottTWI I didn't see that but my Tamron copy might have been under par. No way of knowing since I traded in the Tamron lens.
Would you go for this instead of sigma 35 1.4? Cant decide and the decision is killing me. Im a product, detail, portrait car photographer
I think I would go with this lens instead, myself, more versatility
Hi Dustin
Which 24-70mm f2.8 you recommend to me (not pro photographer ). Samyang, sigma art one, tamron G2 or sony 1st gen
I thank you
I personally lean Tamron G2. Great lens.
@@DustinAbbottTWI thank you Dustin, then tamron it is
Anybody have insight on this lens’ video capabilities? I heard sigma’s prime lenses have a bit of chopping with autofocus, I was wondering if this lens would be reasonable for video rather than spending double for Sony’s GM series
I didn't have AF issues with the lens during video.
not compared like g master vs tamron on same location pics..i need to buy lens what to buy now...i just waited for your video to conform..but...
Ummm, I never promised that I would be able to make every review a major comparison. That takes both time and expense.
I wonder if anyone have encountered dust getting into the front elements group from out side or maybe inside?
I didn't during my review period, but that's only 3-4 weeks.
I don't know if you still read comments or not, but I have an urgent question.. I am planning to buy a Sony camera and I have a sale over here where the aR3 is same price as the a3 ( Body Only ) And in fact I don't care about the high resolution and Love shooting videos, the question here which to buy and would I lose any technology if I get the a3 over the aR3?
I'd appreciate your help!
The a3 is a slightly better video platform, so if you sincerely think that you don't need the higher resolution, you might as well go for the a73 even if the R3 is a better value.
Would love to see the Sigma and GM compared to the new Samyang 24-70/2.8 parfocal lens.
I'm having a hard time getting in contact with anyone from Samyang. I've tried four times or so. Not sure what's going on there.
What lens should I buy Tamron 28-75 or sigma 24-70 for Sony camera (price and weight is not important ) (most important thing is images and video quality )
I think the Sigma is a little bit sharper, though frankly this information is much better presented by just watching this video.
hi, does your Sigma 24-70 lens makes noise when autofocusing? When I shot in AF-C mode it makes a lot of noise. I am not sure it is a problem with the lens.
Hi there, this lens was a loaner, so if I didn't mention a lot of focus noise in the reviews, then I didn't see it.
@@DustinAbbottTWI ok thanks
great review! I will get it for sure!
What bracket do you have on your camera? I was looking for one like this, but I only find L brackets.
greetings from Austria!
I'm using this one: ruclips.net/video/jYcntIBsiuY/видео.html It actually is an L-bracket, but the side bracket is removable. I use only the grip extender portion (and it makes everything Arca)
Thank you so much for an in depth review Dustin, really helped me make my purchase decision
My pleasure!
Thx for detailed review. Any idea about dust issue reported by many users?
I have heard that feedback from users. I don't have any personal insight as the copy I reviewed was loaned to me.
I'm getting a Sony A7S III and want to get a good lens for it. I will be doing mostly video. And I want to make sure this lens (Sigma) will work well as a video lens also. How well do you think it will work?
I think it will work fairly well.
@@DustinAbbottTWI are there any limitations that you can think of?
@Dustin Abott
Hey thank you for the video, i should really have watched all of it before ordering. I got a Sigma 24-70 and the flaring, even wide open is simply ruining some of my images. Having used both how do you think flaring and sharpness compares to the Sony 24-70GM?
Warm Regards
Lasse
The GM is better in that regard (as is the Tamron 28-75, though it has a few flaring flaws of its own).
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thank you for the fast reply. I will return the Sigma and order the Sony instead.
Thanks for another great review. I love how you choose your words with carefullness and dont say to much negative things about the products. Like saying "it isen't fantastic" in this review about the performence of the lense against bright light. I just love it :-)
I don't view my role as judge and jury so much as providing the relevant facts so that people can draw their own conclusions.
Great review, just to personalize your review, notwithstanding that you might be able to keep both, if you had to keep one, which would you keep, Tamron or Sigma?
I already owned the Tamron, and I've stuck with it for two reasons. 1) I've been happy with its real world performance for both stills and video. and 2) The Tamron fits better in my smaller bags that I'm more likely to use day to day.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks for that candor.
Hi Dustin,
I've sent you an email asking your opinion about the two lenses you have reviewed (Sigma and Tamron 24 - 70 mm). Thanks a lot for taking my comment into consideration!
I've responded there.
@@DustinAbbottTWI thank you very much, Dustin!
For a a7R3 which one do you prefer as a all-rounder lens?
I've been using Canon 6D with Sigma 35mm 1.4 ART as all-rounder for about 6 years
Would love the lower weight with Tamron 28-75 but could cope with Sigma 24-70 well
Mostly portraits sometimes landscape
*I'm from Japan the price difference isn't that big as other countries
$750/630 for Tamron (new/used)
$1050/900 for Sigma (new/used)
How important is it for you to go to 24mm? The Tamron performance is equally good across shared range, and it is much smaller and lighter.
@@DustinAbbottTWI thank you for the reply!
I'd love to use 24mm when traveling but I heard Sigma is still having issue with focus accuracy because of manufacturing variance (at least it's still the case 1 month ago)
And Sigma is indeed sharper, but Tamron is 330g lighter so more willing to carry it with me.
Probably trying them both out in reality is the best way
does using a 24-70mm DSLR lens give you a better image than if you use a 24-70mm mirrorless lens and vs versa on compatible equipment with or without an adopter?????....example----using a DSLR 24-70mm lens on a a7/3 with a mandatory adopter or using a 24-70mm E mount on a sony a7`/3, without an adopter, WHICH lens would give you a better image and why??...thank you
The 24-70mm F2.8 DN is the better lens, and it is better because it's optical design is better. It's really less about the adapter (though I prefer lenses with a native mount for a lot of reasons), and more about the optical properties of the lens.
@@DustinAbbottTWI THANK YOU !
If you used this lens with the camera mounted on a ballhead/tripod would a lens support rail be needed? sony a7iv
I don't think so. I definitely didn't.
@@DustinAbbottTWI thank you for the reply! Just want to be safe than sorry- ps i ordered the sigma 14-24 also- perfect pair…. I hope + a 50mm voigtlander notkon- i should be good to go….
Hi Dustin. Do you know if sigma has fixed the close focusing issue that you mention in this review with a firmware update? I’m trying to decide between this and the tamron and I like close up pictures. Therefore (correct me if I’m wrong, please) this sigma issue if not corrected would be a problem. AFAIK Last update to the firmware was February and it didn’t mention this issue. Let me know what you know about this, please. Thank you.
Unfortunately most of the lenses I review are loaners, so I can't really comment on later developments. That's part of why lens makers should iron out the bugs before general release, as most reviewers cover the products when they are new.
Dustin Abbott thanks for he reply. I guess it’s safe to say that you purchased the tamron instead of the sigma then? Do you mind indicating if this issue (the extreme field curvature while close focusing) was part of the decision or was it cost, weight, or quality? Again, thank you for your reply (here and other questions I’ve asked in the past).
@@pulper11 I actually already owned the Tamron and have used it daily since shortly after its release. I'm not sure what I would choose if I were buying fresh, but I didn't feel compelled to make the switch. The single most compelling thing to me is the compact size of the Tamron, though.
Dustin Abbott thanks again Dustin. The worry for me is that 4mm on the short end. Not so much a worry I guess but a concern. I do have the Samyang 18 based largely on your review so that should help if need be. Btw I also purchased the samyang 85 for the Sony and love it. You’ll see a lot of 1.4 photos on my Flickr page. Again, largely based on your reviews. Obviously I trust your opinions! Photos are not as nice as yours but I still like them.
www.flickr.com/photos/88031594@N00/
Hi Dustin I hope you get to test the Viltrox 23, 33 and 56 1.4 soon, I shoot Sony now but I'm very curious to see how these three compare to the Fuji 1.4 line, it seem they're releasing lenses for both the X and E mounts.
My source in Viltrox says the lenses aren't quite ready yet. I should have review samples as soon as they are available.
@@DustinAbbottTWI That's very much appreciated, looking forward to it.
I purchased the Tamron 28-75 over Christmas (with an A7III). I have one day left on my return window and am wondering if you think there is enough difference between the two to do the return and buy the Sigma? The Sigma would be $220 more, plus the return shipping of probably $10-$15. I also have the 17-28mm Tamron, so I'm not sure if the 24mm is necessarily needed? I like the size and weight of the Tamron and don't have any lenses that are heavier to compare, so I'm not sure if weight and size is that big of a deal. Thanks for any thoughts you might have.
I guess the most important question is this: are you happy with the Tamron? If so, then just enjoy what you have. If there is something you don't like about the Tamron that you feel the Sigma improves upon, then go for it.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Biggest thing for me would be the low light autofocus performance. If there was a significant difference between the Sigma and Tamron, I would probably grab the Sigma. Did you see any major improvements in low light autofocus with the Sigma?
Not really. They both have the same maximum aperture, and that's the biggest deciding factor in low light performance.
Awesome review as always, thanks Dustin. I think the flare aspect is a surprisingly bad part that I did not anticipate to see. I guess this can push someone to pickup a used or new grey market Sony 24-70 2.8 GM for about $1700 which is not cheap either. Or maybe I'll just stick to being primarily a prime shoot as I was when I was Nikon. I must ask as I am curious; are we seeing more lenses on mirrorless that are on wide end having much worse distortion than what I am used to coming from DSLR? Or is it just primarily these 24-70 2.8 zooms that have really nasty distortion? It's kind of a bummer because the correction makes you loose part of the image as it crops it. I myself never had a 24-70 so guess I am curious. Thank you!! :)
I think it is mostly the nature of a zoom lens. Unfortunately that distortion is fairly typical, though this isn't a great performance for sure.
does the lens hood fit backwards for easier storage?
Yes it does, though it is still fairly large
Is the lens also good for video even though it has no image stabilizer?
Sure, so long as you are using it on one of the bodies with IBIS. I actually found stability better on my a9 or a7RIII than I did with Sigma's 24-70 OS lens on Canon.
Superb Review.
Glad you liked it!
sigma 24-70 vs sony 24-105 ? for general user . i know 2.8 vs 4 f but for an avg user which one do u suggest ?
I personally tend to go with the F2.8 lenses because I do a lot of event work with those kinds of lenses, but both are very good lenses.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks
I am torn between sigma and Sony GM. Both are great lenses but would you pick up the GM for 1500 (open box) or sigma for 1000 (Student Discount - New)?
Let me ask this: do you keep lenses for a long time, or do you resale after a few years? The biggest reason to get the GM over the Sigma would be that it will probably be worth close to $1500 in a few years, while the Sigma will take a slightly bigger hit (though it helps that you would get it at a reduced rate). There's not much of a performance difference.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thank you for your reply. I tend to keep my lenses until something better comes out or my needs change.
Thanks for this great review. did you notice the sigma is shorter than the gm/tamron/kit lens/etc at 70mm? mine is, it is in fact 64mm. witch is a very noticable difference. My copy is also less sharper than the tamron at 70mm, and have more CA.
It's a little hard to determine where 70mm is on the Tamron, but yes, the Sigma does frame looser at most equivalent focal lengths.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Interesting. You took the sigma's focal length as reference. So, the tamron appeared tighter and not accurate focal legthwise. Might have been other way around.
Excellent review.
How can you tell if you got a bad copy of this lens? I just purchase one and would like to make sure is a good copy. Thanks
One easy test is to square up with something like a brick wall, put the camera on a tripod, and then focus on the wall. Check each of the four corners to see if they are roughly equal in sharpness.
Dustin Abbott Thanks for the tip, I would give this a try. BTW, thanks for your video review of this lens by far the best one out there.
Amazing! Would you consider reviewing the Laowa 25mm f/2.8 2.5-5X Ultra Macro lens for Sony?
If Laowa reached out to me about it, yes. I've got really high demand for reviews these days, so I don't waste much time chasing after product.
@@DustinAbbottTWI It's a very niche lens, actually. I'll be buying it for a very famous biting midge in my region that's too tiny to fill a full screen at 1:2 magnification. Suggested this because I really enjoy your thorough reviews and could always use your experience to get the best results out of it!
Have a great day, sir.👍
wait I thought DN was for MFT cameras and the DG version is for Full Frame?
DN just designates mirrorless
i'm still waiting for this lens... it's been like 3 months of waiting for it to be available and in stock
It's tough because supply chains all over are really disrupted due to COVID...and that was affecting Asian countries way ahead of Europe and North America.
Great review as always. One very small technical description. You mentioned Sigma for FE. There is only one mount (aside from the A mount) and that’s the E mount. FE is used only by Sony on their lens name description. All others are E mount for FF cameras and do not have FE in their lens name. Again just a small simple point.
While that might technically be true, it would actually create more confusion as it would imply to many that this is an APS-C lens. I'll stick with the non-technical but clearer designation.
Dustin Abbott not really. I think most people know that 24-70 is typically a full frame zoom lens. Like myself I also shoot with both aps-c and FF Sony bodies. This lens can also be used on a6000 series cameras as well. The mount is the same on both and I think FE actually confuses people more by making them think this is only a FF lens. It’s only Sony that calls their FF glass FE and nobody else. That also adds to confusion.
@@joealfanophotography9568 it could be "FF E" best description, ain't it. I didn't like FE too, since half of sites says FE half E half fulframe e and ff e just makes most sense and industry should move towards that naming sceme
Is this better than the tamron 28-75?
If you've watched the review, a lot of that question is answered in it. It is better in some ways, not better in others.
I've read there's dust issues, true?
I've heard that anecdotally, but I've never owned the lens so can't speak to the long term effects of dust.
As always fantastic review ! Really a pleasure watching your videos :)
I have a question, right now I own Samyang 85 1.4 and zeiss 16-35 f4 and I thought to buy sigma 24-70 for street (day and night) photography and close up shots. Tamron probably still offer the best value but I fear with 28mm I might have to switch lens more often and zeiss at f4 is not fantastic for street photography at night. What would you recommend me to do ?
Thanks a lot
My understanding is that 28, 35, and 50 are the most common focal lengths for street, so the Tamron will probably be fine. But, a fast prime will probably be a better lens than a 2.8 zoom when it comes to nighttime street photography. And, since street photography generally involves staying in one place for a long period of time while looking at one spot for the right subject to come through, you probably wouldn't be switching lenses all that often when doing street.
I would say that either lens would work for your purposes. You do have a wider focal length to go to if needed. How important is the extra weight of the Sigma?
I would recommend you to get the Samyang 45mm f1.8 then. Low light capabilities, standard view like how we see with our eyes(i believe it's 42mm the human natural eye distortion). Crazy low weight 145grams only and very compact which is ideal and pretty much essential for street photography. Firstly it does not make the camera front heavy making it a joy to use all day and secondly it doesn't gather people's attention that much or as the Sigma does for street photography. It's stealthier i mean. So in my opinion, keep your zeiss permanently on camera till the sunset comes and then utilize the samyangs for the night
Dustin Abbott weight is not an issue at all to be honest, and looking at all my zeiss photos I actually tend to use the 24mm often. So I’m afraid picking up the tamron I will switch often btw the two zooms
Love the video. Your definitive tests are very informative. Did you happen to test the maximum frame rate this lens can achieve with your A9?
Typically I get around 15 FPS, though I think you can get higher if you choose Shutter Priority.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thank you so much for your reply. I have been getting conflicting information and Sigma hasn't answered. You seem to test under many conditions so I was happy you responded.
@@DustinAbbottTWI mine arrived today and you were spot on with 15 frames per second on the A9ii. Thank you again!
14:35 there's quite some noise ! What was the ISO I wonder?
I think that was 25,600
@@DustinAbbottTWI ok that explains, thank you.
Has sigma fixed the close focus?
Hi Josh, this lens was a loaner, so I can't comment on long term changes.
I got a 24-70 gm few months ago but now to go wider and longer I think I’ll opt for sigma and tamron. GM is nice but the price is prohibitive for a hobbyists.
That's unfortunately true.
Dustin Abbott Honestly I always find myself shooting at one or the other extreme that being said it’s cheaper and more convenient to zoom in and out then change primes all the time. So yeah for now I’m going to complete my focal range with zooms and in the future pick up primes that I use most.