Man I haven't done much photography since 2014-2015, Doing research in preparation for buying an A7R II for my return to the hobby and I'm very glad to see that Jared is still making awesome content in the same format!
Although this Sigma lens is the better choice over the Sony G master because it's half the price; kudos to Sony for sharing with third-party vendors how to manufacture a lens without the need for reverse engineering. I went mirrorless about six months ago and the amount of available glass made Sony the easy choice. In addition to a couple G Master lenses, I have a couple Tamron zoom lenses and adapted Sigma 150 to 600mm and I'm amazed how good the quality is on all three of those lenses.
Because Nikon is at its knees. If it goes on like this then they will be out of business. Technically, their Z Line is so far a bummer. It’s a stupid decision from Nikon also not to open their Z Mount for 3rd party lens manufacturer. Availability of lenses is key for survival. Especially when also the FTZ Adapter is giving only a lousy performance with older F Mount lenses. Stupid Nikon, I have to say.
Stefan1968ful thank you for your opinion but the Z camera isn’t that bad. It’s a solid camera however so many people want to focus on what it “doesn’t “ do when In fact you can get good shots with the camera. In the court of public RUclipsrs opinion Nikon is crappy. I say use it and enjoy it.
@@Stefan1968ful It sounds like you never used Nikon cameras in general and Nikon Z line of cameras and glass in particular. Z glass and Z mount is the best in its class for now. Look at the specs and go try it. What a stupid comment. Lousy Stefan ... LOL
Hello Jared I know it’s been a couple of months since you posted this video, but I got to tell you I receive my sigma 24 to 70 2.8 DN lens, I almost purchased the g master version of this lens, I saved a lot of money the Sigma lens is a great lens, I also wanted to let you know I value your reviews on products I think you are one of the most honest guys out there doing this and I don’t think you would steer people wrong take care buddy.
Note for anyone who shoots in harsh weather: The Sigma weather sealing is inferior compared to Sony. I’m currently in Alaska and it’s a battle using the Sigma in the rain, as moisture immediately gets in the lens. Sony on the other hand has held up great!
I just came home from my local camera ship after they replaced my copy of the 24-70 2.8. Sigma claimed they "fixed" the weather sealing issues on units with serials above 55641775. A part of me is very tempted to just sell the Sigma, take the plunge and get a GM.
@@thedude1590 i ended up getting a very new second hand GM for $150 more than the Sigma new. It's hard to trust and use the 24-70 as a workhorse when people on forums are on their second replacement lens. Perhaps they were extra unlucky but I'd rather get some value out of a new lens and upgrade to a GM.
Am quite surprised that the Sigma is lighter than the Sony lens...a few grams but still. Usually the Sigma lens is the heavier lens than the Sony equivalent. Bravo Sigma, bravo!!!
Thanks Jared. I bought the Sigma. Got mine from Allens Camera in their first shipment. Love the lens for my A7RIV and A9. BTW in Sony Alpha Blog testing (MTF standards) the Sigma was the only one of the three: Sigma 24-70mm, Sony 24-70mmGM and Tamron 28-75mm that could FULLY resolve the 61mp files of the A7RIV. Interesting.
Gerald Williams 1 second ago @Test86 One4 I own the excellent Sony 24-105mm f4, but I still bought the Sigma Art 24-70mm f2.8. There are often times I want that one-stop faster lens in low light situations. Keeping both lenses, especially at the very reasonable price of the Sigma. Both the Sony 24-105mm f4 and the Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 have better overall MTF numbers (both rated as excellent on the A7RIV) , higher than the Sony 24-70mm f2.8 GM, (rated very good on the A7RIV) really. (Sony Alpha Blog testing, MTF standards)
THANK YOU I was a photographer and a videographer. When I moved to a new City. All my equipment got lost in the move. So I decided to look up what's a good camera I can start all over with for video and photography. SAW lots of videos for camparing. Till I came upon your page (video of nikkon z6 canon r and sony a7iii comparison) and made my choice on a sony a7 iii thanks to your in depth look at cameras. I ended up watching a butch of your videos. You know how to be entertaining as will as informal about what I need to know. To keep my attention is impressive cus I have bad ADHD lol. And now I am a subscriber. So thank you for the help and keep up the great work.
My boss (who has money to buy the 600 f4 if he wanted) chose the tamron over the sigma due to value for money. If that gives you even more piece of mind
I'd like to share my experience with this lens. I bought it along with the Sony A7R IVA and I changed it after few days. The reasons I did that are : - quite consistent chromatic aberration - eye AF not very reliable - dust issue inside the lens ( serious problem for a lens that should be at the top) - quite soft on the edges From this review and others I really thought this lens would have been amazing, but unfortunately it was not the case. I'll be waiting for the Sony 24-70 2.8 mark II
Finally they understood that ergonomic is as important as quality. We don't need an enormous extremely fast lens that can't be used in real world. A nice and well engineered 24-70 2.8, boom of pre orders
Well Canon gives you a choice, you don't need to buy their 28-70 f/2, they also have an incredibly well built 24-70 f/2.8, but for many the 28-70 f/2 saves them buying three primes, and is more convenient.
Hello, i just got the sony 24-70mm GM for fathers day and today and got to play with for a few mins before needing to go to work. I thought the lens was incredibly fast with taking the pictures. Definitely gonna give my sony a7iii a run for its money. My question is, does the Sigma also perform as fast?
I preordered my sigma December 5th and just got it yesterday. I upgraded from the 28-70 kit lens (I shoot with a A7III) and was debating between buying the tamron or g master after it went on sale, but when I heard this lens was released I took a chance on sigma and could not be happier.
Best comparisons on RUclips! Even though the FroTeam takes a little longer to create reviews and comparisons, they make the videos top notch and worth waiting for! You guys are the best! #BRINGBACKRAWTALK
@Jared Polin. Just wanted to say that I really enjoy watching your videos and am utterly grateful for this free content. I have a Sony a7III myself, but regardless of that, I am watching all your videos, even though, they are about other brands. As a hobby-photographer, I am happy for every information I can get to shoot better photos. Big THANK YOU, greetings from Germany.
@@joaquinnolasco5210 Yeah but we already know that the value you get for the money is pretty shit with the Sony so it would be interesting comparing it to the Tamron which is roughly in the same price class.
M4 16 buddy, that’s why I put “best” in quotations. Also, before the Sigma came out, the GM was the best lens. The Tamron is a great lens, especially for the price, but the GM was much better.
I wonder how it fares it very low light situations. Using an A7iii, I shoot lots of corporate events where it's dim lighting for cocktail hours, and a popular thing now is casino nights. Almost as dark as night club situations. My Tamron 28-75 has trouble grabbing focus at times, and I have never tried the G Master in this setting. If the Sigma works better than the Tamron, I will definitely make the switch.
Great review. This is why I watch your channel. Yes, there is some technical stuff about the lenses, but unlike most other channels, you test these lenses out. You give comparisons and give your personal thoughts why you like the lenses. I love black and white, it can even have digital noise and still look good. Sometimes it adds to the character of the image. Colour? Yes, bold colours on the spectrum from the purple-blue to the yellows and reds, nice to see. Especially when they are so bold. Great video as always. One thought ( don’t know if others agree). Sigma seems to work well with the Sony’s and Tamron seems to work well with Nikon.
How’s the dust performance been? I’ve been highly considering it but I heard that it collects dust really easily and after a few months it gets near unusable.
@@ashmaterial I hd mine for 5 months now, and I have no issues, seems to be this was a problem on the earlier revisions of the lease, The newest revisions have been corrected as far as I understand. again my copy it's flawless thankfully.
People keep saying that all Sony full frame cameras have image stabilization. The a7s is a full frame camera that does not have IBIS. In fact there are a handful of full frames sony cameras that do not have IBIS. Is there an update I wasn't aware of?
For someone who is not a pro photographer and are looking for good cheap lenses, and tend to go much outside in rainy and snowy days (damn norway... ) Please inform in your reviews if the lens you are testing is weather sealed. Other then that, great work! Pretty new sub, but I love following your reviews and guides
Great video! 2 years later still very relevant: I can get the Sigma new (no 2nd hand/refurbished available around here atm) for €1100 and the 'old' GM I for €1199 refurbished (inc warranty, etc). Would love to get some opinions! Thanks
I am in the same boat. If the Sigma is within $200 of the Sony when I go to buy one of the two in March I will go with the Sony. When the price diff is that small then I would rather get the 1st party lens. When they are $500 or more apart then I will 100% get the third party.
Hi Jared, if you had to choose between the sigma 24-70 and the sigma 35 1.4 what would you pick? Only budget for one…. To shoot photos at behind the scenes for ballroom dance comps
Just compared the Canon 5dsr with 24-70 lens and A7rIV with the 24-70..and I prefer the canon lens. Will probably have to get another 24-70 than the Sony in a while.
Ok ,the shot of AOC was freaking great. It captured her the she is. She leaning in to tackle the tough problems. No fluff (bokem) background, just a real honest shot. Great work. Question: should I get this lens if I already have the 28-70 f3.5. If not, what lens would you suggest. I mainly shoot street photos. Thanks home Boy, I'm from Philly also.
For the people who already have this lens is the focus ring really easy to turn because I just got it and idk if it’s just my model or that’s just how they made it
At 6 minutes in, the shot was taken at 5,000 ISO. Did you add any grain when processing the image? The noise/grain looks massive and way worse than I would have expected to see. I knot that's not the lens (which looks great) but even so I'm a bit surprised by the grain/noise I see there.
Jared I'm a Nikon shooter and will stay a Nikon shooter the Z mount cams I have are wonderful and serve my purposes with flying colors but what are your thoughts as to when they will allow other lens manufacturers in...given the success with Sony bodies thus far
I would like to know this also. I am in the market for a new camera and have been giving the Nikon Z series some thought. But I can't get past the fact that the Z mount just doesn't have the range of lenses it should considering it is their newest tech. Yes I could get an adapter to user some of the older lenses but with Sony already having the advantage over both Nikon and Canon in this respect, i feel my money would be best spent there.
@@chomerly its depends where you are in your career. I'm a 30 year Nikon shooter with a large range of lenses so I stayed with my Nikon brand that has served me so well for decades, The Z mount gets too much slack it is in fact a better mount than Sony and its only going to mature and get better. but you do what is best for you...
The Sony is 4 years old and second hand still goes for $1,400 (used) - 1,650 (like new) depending on quality. That being said, it seems like a safer option to park your money into as an investment in terms of selling.. but if you’re running the lens into the ground, the Sigma makes more sense from this perspective
Erik $1,600 and I’m sure you could use it for a year and sell it off for $1450-1500, meaning it essentially cost $100-150 to rent it for 52 weeks. That’s the interesting thing about the GM used market, moreso with Binflation these days
@@Bloodshade yeah true. With sony it's all about the quality plus the resale. I've tried selling off some of my Sigmas and it's hard to get anything close to what you paid for on those.
Probably a weird question but a min. focus distance of 18cm would be inside the lens since its normally taken from the sensor plane. Sounds like sigmal is providing the number from the front of the lens ?
Now that the version II for Sony is out the version I is less expensive. I wonder if the Soney is preferable. I think the auto focus may be better and lens breathing compensation?
i know this is a year old but in short NO the sigma is much bigger on a small body throwing off the weight ratio for anybody that finds this comment & is looking for a decent zoom on APS -C around $1000 or less look into the sony 18-55mm f2.8 , sony 18-105mm f4, tamron 18-200mm f3.5-6.3, specifically the tamron 17-70mm f2.8 VC will be the closest comparable to this lens
You're only a few blocks from the Fillmore? I've seen you around the neighborhood, but for some reason I thought you lived down in South Philly and were just up in NoLibs for other reasons.
Sigma has the huge dust intrusion problem though. Brand new lenses too. The Sony GM is over 6 yrs old with none of those problems. You can get the Sony almost brand new from KEH for the same price as the sigma.
@jadedpolin hello, thanks for good information. I need some opinion from you. I want to get a good camera which I’m in budget , for shooting my newborn and I have to work fast bc my baby is super alert. The thing is I don’t have a professional lighting , I use the string lights which was hanging on my windows for long time and I have small space for shooting as well.I don’t know if the sigma lens able to help shooting in this lighting condition and still give a clear crisp image or should I get the Sony 24mm 1.8? What do u think about the Sony a7iv and Sony a7iii, which one better? Is there any equipment to help for auto detect the right ISO /aperture / shutter speed? Please advise.Thanks
good lighting will make your images look much better than a better lens will.... cameras literally capture light, you need good lighting. A great lens wont make someone look good in crap lighting.,
The lens distortion in sigma 24-70 is significant at 24 and 70 also in the other focal lengths. I haven't tested Sony yet! I will let the photographers decide
Is the sigma 24-70 better than the tamron 28-75? I know everybody is talking about tamron being lighter and sigma having the extra 4 mm of range in the wide. I’m more curious what lense is better in term of focus, sharpness and handles better the flares and averall a better lense.
What about some reviews that claim some softness at the 70mm end?? I really think of ordering the Sigma but when using a lens like that I mostly use the 24mm and the 70mm ends of the lens.
In Australia the price difference is most definitely not half the price of the Sony. Sony: $2099 Sigma: $1899 For the extra $200, I’ll go with the Sony. That’s from. Reputable camera place. On Amazon Sony: $1942 Sigma: $1512
Funny, I came up with the same decision just by studying the numbers and results. You just confirmed this purchase. Now, the problem is finding it. I'm getting this for the A7Siii
Hello Jared, need your assistance: which one to buy: Sigma 24-70 f2.8 or Tamron 28-75 for Sony? In your opinion which one is preferred (sharpens, low light etc...). I'm appreciate your help.
hello, I discussed with sony's users and they explained me that higher price for Sony 24-70 could be explained by three factors : sony uses titanium, more expensive but more robust to shocks than aluminium used by sigma, sony is better tropicalized and because sigma with newer technology is perhaps better than sony for photos but dual motorization of sony makes its 24-70 better for video 4K and its autofocus. what do you think, mainly for video because I have no idea what we need for video on a camera.
Just got mine yesterday!! So excited! JARED- Focus questions... Are you holding the eye AF button down all the time? And what focus mode are you using with these sample photos or most of the time please? Flex spot, wide, etc? Thanks!
@@justonbrazda3846 Thanks a lot! On my a7iii I am back buttton focusing and I have to keep the button down all the time when shooting in any focus mode other than wide for the eye af to work. Is that correct? I updated a few months ago.
Ok, you got me... I was on the hunt for a zoom all-rounder lens for my A7R III and 24-70 2.8 was (for me) ideal. I already have the 20mm 1.8 G lens and it is fantastic. I really don't want to swap my camera with a Nikkor 18-105 anymore. I just wanted a single main camera with two lenses. And the Sony GM was giving me the cute eyes but the price... ugh, the price... And then, this video came up in recommendations. And guess what? I have a brand new Sigma coming my way as we speak!!! Thanks dude! The next beer is on me!!!
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great video , and love how honest you are with your audience
Jared , are you going to make a video about Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 vs Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 Sony E-Mount lens ?
I've never met or talked to anyone who has ever won one of these giveaways. It's always some obscure cat lady
Zoom beyond clear pixels, into the images taken by both lenses. Tell us which lens shows the rough wavelengh of the lens polishing. The lens grains.
Please compare between the "Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 DG DN Art for Sony" & the "Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 RXD Lens for Sony E". Thank you very much
Man I haven't done much photography since 2014-2015, Doing research in preparation for buying an A7R II for my return to the hobby and I'm very glad to see that Jared is still making awesome content in the same format!
I agree! Sigma used to be so terrible
Although this Sigma lens is the better choice over the Sony G master because it's half the price; kudos to Sony for sharing with third-party vendors how to manufacture a lens without the need for reverse engineering. I went mirrorless about six months ago and the amount of available glass made Sony the easy choice. In addition to a couple G Master lenses, I have a couple Tamron zoom lenses and adapted Sigma 150 to 600mm and I'm amazed how good the quality is on all three of those lenses.
Funny how you can talk about a Sigma lens on a Sony system and still have time to throw shade at Nikon.
Exactly ... grain, grain what grain look at auto focus. ;-)
Sergei Korschmin it has grain because it’s 61 megapixels. You have nothing to compare that to.
Because Nikon is at its knees. If it goes on like this then they will be out of business. Technically, their Z Line is so far a bummer. It’s a stupid decision from Nikon also not to open their Z Mount for 3rd party lens manufacturer. Availability of lenses is key for survival. Especially when also the FTZ Adapter is giving only a lousy performance with older F Mount lenses. Stupid Nikon, I have to say.
Stefan1968ful thank you for your opinion but the Z camera isn’t that bad. It’s a solid camera however so many people want to focus on what it “doesn’t “ do when In fact you can get good shots with the camera. In the court of public RUclipsrs opinion Nikon is crappy. I say use it and enjoy it.
@@Stefan1968ful It sounds like you never used Nikon cameras in general and Nikon Z line of cameras and glass in particular. Z glass and Z mount is the best in its class for now. Look at the specs and go try it. What a stupid comment. Lousy Stefan ... LOL
Hello Jared I know it’s been a couple of months since you posted this video, but I got to tell you I receive my sigma 24 to 70 2.8 DN lens, I almost purchased the g master version of this lens, I saved a lot of money the Sigma lens is a great lens, I also wanted to let you know I value your reviews on products I think you are one of the most honest guys out there doing this and I don’t think you would steer people wrong take care buddy.
Note for anyone who shoots in harsh weather: The Sigma weather sealing is inferior compared to Sony. I’m currently in Alaska and it’s a battle using the Sigma in the rain, as moisture immediately gets in the lens. Sony on the other hand has held up great!
I shoot in country where it rains a lot. Would you say to get G master then? Is it hard to clean it if i shoot in rain?
Yeah and the dust issues, never had any dust problem with my Sony lenses
I just came home from my local camera ship after they replaced my copy of the 24-70 2.8. Sigma claimed they "fixed" the weather sealing issues on units with serials above 55641775. A part of me is very tempted to just sell the Sigma, take the plunge and get a GM.
@@DemonsofRazgriz05 exactly just waiting for mk 2 24-70 GM. It's gonna be expensive but definitely worth it.
@@thedude1590 i ended up getting a very new second hand GM for $150 more than the Sigma new. It's hard to trust and use the 24-70 as a workhorse when people on forums are on their second replacement lens. Perhaps they were extra unlucky but I'd rather get some value out of a new lens and upgrade to a GM.
Am quite surprised that the Sigma is lighter than the Sony lens...a few grams but still. Usually the Sigma lens is the heavier lens than the Sony equivalent. Bravo Sigma, bravo!!!
As a hybrid shooter... how does the sigma preform when shooting video? Would like to see some video comparisons of sigma vs sony 24-70mm.
I would like to know how well this is for video as well. Lack of IS can make a difference for video shooters who go handheld even with camera IBIS.
Sony 24-70gm has better AF.
@@shadostorm8375 which you don't really use when filming...
@@unbroken1010 what the hell are you talking about...yes we do use AF when filming..prettymuch all the time. Not to mention when filming on Ronin
@@unbroken1010 Yes, yes we do.
Thanks Jared. I bought the Sigma. Got mine from Allens Camera in their first shipment. Love the lens for my A7RIV and A9. BTW in Sony Alpha Blog testing (MTF standards) the Sigma was the only one of the three: Sigma 24-70mm, Sony 24-70mmGM and Tamron 28-75mm that could FULLY resolve the 61mp files of the A7RIV. Interesting.
Got mine at Allen's as well! I was the fourth preorder...and they only got 4. Congrats!
Gerald Williams
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@Test86 One4 I own the excellent Sony 24-105mm f4, but I still bought the Sigma Art 24-70mm f2.8. There are often times I want that one-stop faster lens in low light situations. Keeping both lenses, especially at the very reasonable price of the Sigma. Both the Sony 24-105mm f4 and the Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 have better overall MTF numbers (both rated as excellent on the A7RIV) , higher than the Sony 24-70mm f2.8 GM, (rated very good on the A7RIV) really. (Sony Alpha Blog testing, MTF standards)
like I honestly don't know what people are smoking, I've done 200mp pixelshift files with a 24-70 GM and they're totally fine
@ Gerald Williams wondering... If in your usage of these two lenses which has the better image quality, or are they pretty much the same? Thanks!
I'd love to see a large sony lens comparison. For example: Sony 24-70 vs. Sigma 24-70 vs. Sony 24-105 vs. Tamron 28-75 (vs. Sony 28-70).
THANK YOU
I was a photographer and a videographer. When I moved to a new City. All my equipment got lost in the move. So I decided to look up what's a good camera I can start all over with for video and photography. SAW lots of videos for camparing. Till I came upon your page (video of nikkon z6 canon r and sony a7iii comparison) and made my choice on a sony a7 iii thanks to your in depth look at cameras. I ended up watching a butch of your videos. You know how to be entertaining as will as informal about what I need to know. To keep my attention is impressive cus I have bad ADHD lol. And now I am a subscriber. So thank you for the help and keep up the great work.
Sorry to hear about your loss. I hope you recover and get back into the game.
@@muzikayisesibeko9928 thank you I am trying
Please compare between the "Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 DG DN Art for Sony" & the "Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 RXD Lens for Sony E". Thank you very much
@Andrew Politano Photography gives me piece of mind reading this after picking up the tamron last night
But they are not even in the same price bracket
My boss (who has money to buy the 600 f4 if he wanted) chose the tamron over the sigma due to value for money. If that gives you even more piece of mind
Gerard Undone has a you tube review on all three
I'd like to share my experience with this lens.
I bought it along with the Sony A7R IVA and I changed it after few days.
The reasons I did that are :
- quite consistent chromatic aberration
- eye AF not very reliable
- dust issue inside the lens ( serious problem for a lens that should be at the top)
- quite soft on the edges
From this review and others I really thought this lens would have been amazing, but unfortunately it was not the case.
I'll be waiting for the Sony 24-70 2.8 mark II
I like my Sigma 24mm f1.4 for my videos , it's a dreamy look I get using the f1.4
How’s the AF for video? Is it as fast and reliable as the Sony GM 24-70mm f/2.8 in low light shooting video?
Thank you for your time
Im into this question too...
Sony GM has always faster AF than Sigmas and are better in low light too. If youre not shooting sports or wildlife you dont have to worry. :)
@@shadostorm8375 what? They're both 2.8 how are they better in low light? hahaha
Looking for a comparison on them, too, for the same reason...
@@javierherrera9450 better motor. Sony has the inside computational specs
Finally they understood that ergonomic is as important as quality. We don't need an enormous extremely fast lens that can't be used in real world. A nice and well engineered 24-70 2.8, boom of pre orders
Well Canon gives you a choice, you don't need to buy their 28-70 f/2, they also have an incredibly well built 24-70 f/2.8, but for many the 28-70 f/2 saves them buying three primes, and is more convenient.
Just got mine for my a7iii.. I'm so happy to finally have decent glass for my camera finally...
Jared I really appreciate the work it must take to put together a review/comparison like this. Thank you.
Hello, i just got the sony 24-70mm GM for fathers day and today and got to play with for a few mins before needing to go to work. I thought the lens was incredibly fast with taking the pictures. Definitely gonna give my sony a7iii a run for its money. My question is, does the Sigma also perform as fast?
I just got mine 2 days ago for my a6400 and i'm extremely satisfied!! Excellent built quality and image!! Fro you are the best!!
Ask Dimitris should have gotten the Sony 16-55 for apsc.
Ask Dimitris No you def got the right lens
darren crolla sure if you want a 36-105
Juston Brazda Or if you want to go full frame one day 🥂
@@justonbrazda3846 I have both and both are great, but the 24-70 wouldn't be wide enough for me on my a6000.
I preordered my sigma December 5th and just got it yesterday. I upgraded from the 28-70 kit lens (I shoot with a A7III) and was debating between buying the tamron or g master after it went on sale, but when I heard this lens was released I took a chance on sigma and could not be happier.
Reef Oceania how are you liking it on your A7 III? I’m still debating on whether or not I’m going to get it.
How about now that it's full of dust?
I feel like I'm listening to an intense QVC show that centers on how amazing the host is.
Best comparisons on RUclips! Even though the FroTeam takes a little longer to create reviews and comparisons, they make the videos top notch and worth waiting for! You guys are the best! #BRINGBACKRAWTALK
@Jared Polin. Just wanted to say that I really enjoy watching your videos and am utterly grateful for this free content. I have a Sony a7III myself, but regardless of that, I am watching all your videos, even though, they are about other brands. As a hobby-photographer, I am happy for every information I can get to shoot better photos. Big THANK YOU, greetings from Germany.
What about comparing it to the equivalent tamron?
DJLsb Vapes isn’t it better if he compares it to the “best” 24-70 on the market now?
@@joaquinnolasco5210 Yeah but we already know that the value you get for the money is pretty shit with the Sony so it would be interesting comparing it to the Tamron which is roughly in the same price class.
@@joaquinnolasco5210 Most expensive...not necessarily the best.
M4 16 buddy, that’s why I put “best” in quotations. Also, before the Sigma came out, the GM was the best lens. The Tamron is a great lens, especially for the price, but the GM was much better.
The Tamron is not equivalent: it’s 28-75.
I wonder how it fares it very low light situations. Using an A7iii, I shoot lots of corporate events where it's dim lighting for cocktail hours, and a popular thing now is casino nights. Almost as dark as night club situations. My Tamron 28-75 has trouble grabbing focus at times, and I have never tried the G Master in this setting. If the Sigma works better than the Tamron, I will definitely make the switch.
Great review. This is why I watch your channel. Yes, there is some technical stuff about the lenses, but unlike most other channels, you test these lenses out. You give comparisons and give your personal thoughts why you like the lenses. I love black and white, it can even have digital noise and still look good. Sometimes it adds to the character of the image. Colour? Yes, bold colours on the spectrum from the purple-blue to the yellows and reds, nice to see. Especially when they are so bold.
Great video as always.
One thought ( don’t know if others agree). Sigma seems to work well with the Sony’s and Tamron seems to work well with Nikon.
What's your feedback on the lens long term? Are you having dust issues like so many have complained about? Thanks
Just got mine yesterday! I switch my Tamron 28-75 f2.8, Tamron is great sense, but this sigma build and optical performance it's just another level
How’s the dust performance been? I’ve been highly considering it but I heard that it collects dust really easily and after a few months it gets near unusable.
how is the dust problem?
@@ashmaterial I hd mine for 5 months now, and I have no issues, seems to be this was a problem on the earlier revisions of the lease, The newest revisions have been corrected as far as I understand. again my copy it's flawless thankfully.
Finally nice to see quality 3rd party glass for the E mount. Took long enough, but not helpful to those of us who went Sony years ago.
Bought the Sigma like 3 hours ago :D
People keep saying that all Sony full frame cameras have image stabilization. The a7s is a full frame camera that does not have IBIS. In fact there are a handful of full frames sony cameras that do not have IBIS. Is there an update I wasn't aware of?
For someone who is not a pro photographer and are looking for good cheap lenses, and tend to go much outside in rainy and snowy days (damn norway... ) Please inform in your reviews if the lens you are testing is weather sealed. Other then that, great work! Pretty new sub, but I love following your reviews and guides
Great video! 2 years later still very relevant: I can get the Sigma new (no 2nd hand/refurbished available around here atm) for €1100 and the 'old' GM I for €1199 refurbished (inc warranty, etc). Would love to get some opinions! Thanks
I am in the same boat. If the Sigma is within $200 of the Sony when I go to buy one of the two in March I will go with the Sony. When the price diff is that small then I would rather get the 1st party lens. When they are $500 or more apart then I will 100% get the third party.
"Asis, light! " made my day 😂
Never gets old! :D
didn't get it,can someone explain please
@@ramimxss go watch The Fifth Element.
There are many users have dust problem with Sigma. Jared, do you have the dust problem with Sigma 28-70?
What about Tamron 28-75? I'd include it in the comparison too.
That’s what I’m curious about as well
After the 3.10 firmware nerfing non-native lenses, it focuses even slower than slow.
RidingThe RR but mines was never slow in the first place? I love my Tamron
Houston International Media r u on that firware? Cuz one of my friends owning it with the a7iii complains it is slower after the update.
RidingThe RR uh oh... guess I’ll stay off that new firmware 😂
Hi Jared, if you had to choose between the sigma 24-70 and the sigma 35 1.4 what would you pick?
Only budget for one…. To shoot photos at behind the scenes for ballroom dance comps
Your simple language and your videos are very good for beginners as well as pro photographers.
LOVE FROM INDIA
Does the same apply to the Sigma vs Sony in the 70-200 f2.8? This is my next lens so curious if the Sony is worth the extra money in that zoom range.
😂😂😂 „Assis: Light!“ what a cool link to „The 5. Element“
Sony is killing it for sony. Love my 105 1.4 and 70mm macro.
Just compared the Canon 5dsr with 24-70 lens and A7rIV with the 24-70..and I prefer the canon lens. Will probably have to get another 24-70 than the Sony in a while.
"Azis light">> Five element
JARED U HAVE A TASTE FOR MOVIE
didn't know that quote is as famous in english as in french
"aziz lumière !" :D
'The Fifth Element - Aziz, light!' here on RUclips
Ok ,the shot of AOC was freaking great. It captured her the she is. She leaning in to tackle the tough problems. No fluff (bokem) background, just a real honest shot. Great work. Question: should I get this lens if I already have the 28-70 f3.5. If not, what lens would you suggest. I mainly shoot street photos. Thanks home Boy, I'm from Philly also.
She's full of crap. Tackling nothing. Just another loud mouth fraud.
For the people who already have this lens is the focus ring really easy to turn because I just got it and idk if it’s just my model or that’s just how they made it
So glad I'm not the only one who gets the "Aziz, Light!" comment
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At 6 minutes in, the shot was taken at 5,000 ISO. Did you add any grain when processing the image? The noise/grain looks massive and way worse than I would have expected to see. I knot that's not the lens (which looks great) but even so I'm a bit surprised by the grain/noise I see there.
Well 62 MP have their downsides too
@@WuschelofDespair Very true.
got it a month back
really happy with the choice and the glass
But Jared says it's not even out yet.
@@thomasfox5476 it's not in the states
Is fropack 2 ever not on 40% off?
Love to follow your reviews @Jared, they are funny, punchy and very instructive.
Very helpful review, It was very informative and useful for me! Thank you so much Jared!
Thanks Jared, went with the Sigma thanks to your advice. Cheers
One of those rare paintball photographers out there, and man I've seen them go straight through cheaper lens. The good glass holds up though.
Great review!
Got a tamron 28-75mm last year and remains on my A7III... 24mm would've been a nice reach to have but still happy w/my tamron 🙃
I think there is still no better value than the a7iii with the Tamron 28-75 on the market. I love mine too.
if u need 24mm i prefer 24mm f1.4.
Jared I'm a Nikon shooter and will stay a Nikon shooter the Z mount cams I have are wonderful and serve my purposes with flying colors but what are your thoughts as to when they will allow other lens manufacturers in...given the success with Sony bodies thus far
I would like to know this also. I am in the market for a new camera and have been giving the Nikon Z series some thought. But I can't get past the fact that the Z mount just doesn't have the range of lenses it should considering it is their newest tech. Yes I could get an adapter to user some of the older lenses but with Sony already having the advantage over both Nikon and Canon in this respect, i feel my money would be best spent there.
@@chomerly its depends where you are in your career. I'm a 30 year Nikon shooter with a large range of lenses so I stayed with my Nikon brand that has served me so well for decades, The Z mount gets too much slack it is in fact a better mount than Sony and its only going to mature and get better. but you do what is best for you...
The 5th Element reference got me! I'm subscribed now.
"Even tho he's this tall"
the signs of good autofocus
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The Sony is 4 years old and second hand still goes for $1,400 (used) - 1,650 (like new) depending on quality. That being said, it seems like a safer option to park your money into as an investment in terms of selling.. but if you’re running the lens into the ground, the Sigma makes more sense from this perspective
agree with everything you said. i just bought a like-new today for 1,600. I don't think I could pay full price though.
Erik $1,600 and I’m sure you could use it for a year and sell it off for $1450-1500, meaning it essentially cost $100-150 to rent it for 52 weeks. That’s the interesting thing about the GM used market, moreso with Binflation these days
@@Bloodshade yeah true. With sony it's all about the quality plus the resale. I've tried selling off some of my Sigmas and it's hard to get anything close to what you paid for on those.
@@Bloodshade Bidenflation
@@Profile.4 it’s only gotten worse since I posted this lmao
Been waiting for an actual real review. Appreciate all your work. Thanks for your help! Definitely picking up this lens !
Luis Pinto you will love it, I do.
Probably a weird question but a min. focus distance of 18cm would be inside the lens since its normally taken from the sensor plane. Sounds like sigmal is providing the number from the front of the lens ?
Now that the version II for Sony is out the version I is less expensive. I wonder if the Soney is preferable. I think the auto focus may be better and lens breathing compensation?
Please, can you tell us how suitable this is for the Sony A6400? SHarpness? Focus accuracy? etc? thanks
i know this is a year old but in short NO the sigma is much bigger on a small body throwing off the weight ratio for anybody that finds this comment & is looking for a decent zoom on APS -C around $1000 or less look into the sony 18-55mm f2.8 , sony 18-105mm f4, tamron 18-200mm f3.5-6.3, specifically the tamron 17-70mm f2.8 VC will be the closest comparable to this lens
Was that a Fifth Element reference? Because I think that was a Fifth Element reference...
Multipass!
You're only a few blocks from the Fillmore? I've seen you around the neighborhood, but for some reason I thought you lived down in South Philly and were just up in NoLibs for other reasons.
I have the Sigma 14-24 f 2.8 and the Sigma 24-70 f 2.8 for my Sony A7iii:) still waiting for the 70 200 f 2.8...
markus very nice arsenal 💯
Yep, great setup.
Do you have any info when will sigma release 70-200 2.8 e mount?
Reef Oceania when 70-200 f2.8?
Do you regret not saving a little more for the sony set? I’m interested in that lineup, but worried about focusing in video.
Ha ha ha... Aziz... "Aziz... Battery". It was a good movie!!! Thanks for the good review. I just got A7iii and looking to get additional lens. 👍🍺
If you have the GM, would you trade it for the Sigma?
Sigma has the huge dust intrusion problem though. Brand new lenses too. The Sony GM is over 6 yrs old with none of those problems. You can get the Sony almost brand new from KEH for the same price as the sigma.
When using this lens in Sony camera, is the eye focus working properly. Thanks,
@jadedpolin hello, thanks for good information. I need some opinion from you. I want to get a good camera which I’m in budget , for shooting my newborn and I have to work fast bc my baby is super alert. The thing is I don’t have a professional lighting , I use the string lights which was hanging on my windows for long time and I have small space for shooting as well.I don’t know if the sigma lens able to help shooting in this lighting condition and still give a clear crisp image or should I get the Sony 24mm 1.8? What do u think about the Sony a7iv and Sony a7iii, which one better? Is there any equipment to help for auto detect the right ISO /aperture / shutter speed? Please advise.Thanks
good lighting will make your images look much better than a better lens will....
cameras literally capture light, you need good lighting. A great lens wont make someone look good in crap lighting.,
Great video! Would love to see your photos with the 135 GM!
Great review Mr P. Appreciate the impartiality.
is the image stabilization a big deal say if i get this lens for my a-6400 ?
Why would you put a full frame lens on a apsc body?
@@TheOneAboveAll_ because the lens still works great and you can upgrae to full frame when ever
Great video! Will this lens work on Sony A7C?
The lens distortion in sigma 24-70 is significant at 24 and 70 also in the other focal lengths. I haven't tested Sony yet! I will let the photographers decide
No it isn't
good lens byside of the Dust Problem... does it still exist or does Sigma fix it?
Is the sigma 24-70 better than the tamron 28-75? I know everybody is talking about tamron being lighter and sigma having the extra 4 mm of range in the wide. I’m more curious what lense is better in term of focus, sharpness and handles better the flares and averall a better lense.
How does it do in low light? Would you recommend it for filming a found footage horror movie in the woods?
What about some reviews that claim some softness at the 70mm end?? I really think of ordering the Sigma but when using a lens like that I mostly use the 24mm and the 70mm ends of the lens.
I have no idea. Just go shoot photos. Look at my sample images. They seem fine to me
I have the Sigma 16 and 56mm f1.4. Fantastic lenses, would it make sense to swap these for the 24-70mm f2.8 Art? BTW very funny clip!
Jared, is the Sigma as good as the Sony for Video? I heard it doesn't focus as quick and it may be a little noisier? Thank you.
In Australia the price difference is most definitely not half the price of the Sony.
Sony: $2099
Sigma: $1899
For the extra $200, I’ll go with the Sony.
That’s from. Reputable camera place.
On Amazon
Sony: $1942
Sigma: $1512
I'm watching this just to make myself feel better about ordering this lens earlier today, haha! Thank you.
Funny, I came up with the same decision just by studying the numbers and results. You just confirmed this purchase. Now, the problem is finding it. I'm getting this for the A7Siii
The autofocus Its good even in video mode?
Cause I just worked with the G master and was good
Can you tell me if it can be calibrated or does not need it ?!
Just ordered one + drops & spills but the body not here this after xmas- Happy New Year!
I think you should mention the DUST issue which scratches out all the great stuff it has...
Hello Jared, need your assistance: which one to buy: Sigma 24-70 f2.8 or Tamron 28-75 for Sony? In your opinion which one is preferred (sharpens, low light etc...). I'm appreciate your help.
Light Aziz ... Fifth Element , John Bluthal ........
How’s the AF for video in low light conditions? Thanks.
hello,
I discussed with sony's users and they explained me that higher price for Sony 24-70 could be explained by three factors : sony uses titanium, more expensive but more robust to shocks than aluminium used by sigma, sony is better tropicalized and because sigma with newer technology is perhaps better than sony for photos but dual motorization of sony makes its 24-70 better for video 4K and its autofocus. what do you think, mainly for video because I have no idea what we need for video on a camera.
Hi Jared, how did you record your camera EVF ?
Just got mine yesterday!! So excited! JARED- Focus questions... Are you holding the eye AF button down all the time? And what focus mode are you using with these sample photos or most of the time please? Flex spot, wide, etc? Thanks!
Update your firmware. You don’t need a dedicated eye af button anymore. The shutter button does it.
@@justonbrazda3846 Thanks a lot! On my a7iii I am back buttton focusing and I have to keep the button down all the time when shooting in any focus mode other than wide for the eye af to work. Is that correct? I updated a few months ago.
now i need to pick between this sigma and the tamron 28-75 g2...
Aziz, light!
Classic!
Ok, you got me...
I was on the hunt for a zoom all-rounder lens for my A7R III and 24-70 2.8 was (for me) ideal. I already have the 20mm 1.8 G lens and it is fantastic. I really don't want to swap my camera with a Nikkor 18-105 anymore. I just wanted a single main camera with two lenses. And the Sony GM was giving me the cute eyes but the price... ugh, the price...
And then, this video came up in recommendations. And guess what? I have a brand new Sigma coming my way as we speak!!!
Thanks dude! The next beer is on me!!!
Hey man this is a great review. Will this fit my a7Rii?
I would also like to know this.