My 4 year old twins ask those kinds of questions all the time! It’s also fascinating to hear how they talk about their own thoughts/brain (fortunately, awakening has made me much more adept at these conversations - even though I don’t know anything).
You say to trust the process... But what if one has already been trusting the process for years and years? What to do when one has already gone down all the rabbit holes of practice? All the dead-ends of the seeking mind? When one has already surrendered completely to the process? When one has already given up the trying and seeking? When one is utterly fed up with the seeking mind? When it seems that there is nothing more that can be done? When it feels like it is completely and utterly outside of your hands? A lot of things has been seen through, and most mental suffering is gone... yet there is not Complete Peace, Stillness and Certainty of the nature of the mind and reality... The Splinter in the mind is still stuck somewhere in the background out of reach of any sorta control/seeking/doing. May all beings be at peace
I recommend reading the "4 aspects of I AM" on ATR that John Tan recommends focusing on/deepening, to start to open up to nondual. Might be helpful. I found it so. These quotes may also help: """ To drop the bondage/deep conditionings, the mind MUST realise that another way of 'knowing' is possible; an effortless, total sensing and experience of wholeness. Next the experiences of the joy, bliss and clarity of wholeness. Without the insight into the possiblity and the experience of the positive factors, the mind will not release itself from holding. """ """ Even open pure and innocent inquiry is a deep conditioning. Makes the mind chatters incessantly. Every what, when, where and why by itself is a distancing from start. Freeing itself from such mode of inquiry aka 'knowing', the mind rests. The joy of this resting must be experienced for the 'willingness' to arise. """ Focus on the effortlessness. Focus on the luminosity of raw sensations.
It might help to try focusing on ATR's "4 aspects of IAM", which John Tan recommends directly after initial I AM realization/awakening. Focusing on the effortlessness, and the luminosity of sensations especially may help. I find it really helps bring about a certain appreciation of the present especially when you feel stuck in a bit of a nihilistic phase -> it's really subtle mental judgement of what's going on that's happening most likely. I found it very helpful myself. Relates as well to when Dilullo mentions "falling in love with just this as it is". Mentioned in the "Awakening in all it's aspects" video with Viivi around 29mins in. Some quotes from Tan: """ To drop the bondage/deep conditionings, the mind MUST realise that another way of 'knowing' is possible; an effortless, total sensing and experience of wholeness. Next the experiences of the joy, bliss and clarity of wholeness. Without the insight into the possiblity and the experience of the positive factors, the mind will not release itself from holding. """ """ Even open pure and innocent inquiry is a deep conditioning. Makes the mind chatters incessantly. Every what, when, where and why by itself is a distancing from start. Freeing itself from such mode of inquiry aka 'knowing', the mind rests. The joy of this resting must be experienced for the 'willingness' to arise. """ "The key towards pure knowingness is to bring the taste of presence into the 6 entries and exits. So that what is seen, heard, touched, tasted are pervaded by a deep sense of crystal, radiance and transparency. This requires seeing through the center." - Thusness/John Tan “It will be advisable to take a step back to re-visit and re-experience each of the 6 sense doors. To cultivate a little on the aspect of being 'bare' for all the senses. Experience as much vividness as possible and have clarity on the luminous aspect of awareness first. Touch, taste, smell and sound… are all equally vivid as compared to seeing. Experience the texture and fabric of awareness. The rest of the conditions that give rise to no-self will come later. :) There is no ‘willful’ entrance into non-duality, create enough conditions, that’s all. :)” - John Tan, 2007
Getting more in touch with that "I am here" sense lately. It's exhausting, because in a way the body/mind is still running off that programming, trying to calm down the body/mind is a hopeless hamster wheel. And the only way out is through it, but god damn is it the most uncomfortable thing you'll ever have to feel. I even see myself exerting so much force trying to run from whatever "this" is that I hardly realize it now, because there is such less identification with the body. Need to be careful, and simply just rest into what is and trust what is happening. Part of it is you can't really even fathom what we are, and how could that really be what I am, and how it is so perfect in the end it just makes you want to cry forever. It was the heartbreak that never was. Then you go right back to the hypnosis again, and even forget about it in the first place. But it's like you never forget.. really. I don't know, the flip flopping can be intense.
I love the part when you just point with questions without much context setting or explanation :)) Could you make more videos where you just drill down with questions? 🙏🏽😁 Thank you, love you
When I saw about 9yo I would keep asking myself on a loop “who am I? What am I?” I have no idea where the impulse for this arose exactly… but I would have pop-out experiences, like pressing an eject button on ‘reality’. It was both exhilarating and terrifying. Tapping into this intuition 30 years later is my breadcrumb trail I guess.
I have a question about the feeling of being the body. There is this fundamental sense of being the body although it’s clear that this isn’t true. But when being in the visual field and I notice this sense of separation from it, I see clearly that it’s because of this sense of the body and that the bodily boundaries are “my” boundaries. So my question is: how can this sense of being separate through the body boundaries dissolved? Do you have a practice or exercise to dissolve it? Would be great. Thank you Angelo for all your help ❤️🙏
Just woke up from a dream, so this likely sounds random. Would the double slit experiment have different results if the one observing it was fully liberated?
In my experience it seems as if shame was the anchor for identification with those masks, those selves. Shame was holding my entire identity together. Maybe identity could also be rooted in other emotions like a sense of pride, but I think there's something almost intrinsic, universal and inevitable about shame that helps us solidify and be a separate entity in this world. It's almost as if the learning of boundaries itself is a "shaming" ritual into the world of separation. Sensations (like touching a hot stove) turn into a narrative and identity forms as the doer and experiencer. "I caused this pain through my action". The very nature of cause and effect as a self can't be learned without shame, I intuit. 😊
Asking again: What would you recommend if one falls asleep as soon as or shortly after beginning to try to do inquiry, no matter what time of day or how much I slept the night before? I suspect that is a "protection trick" from the ego, so what could I try to help or instead?
My 4 year old twins ask those kinds of questions all the time! It’s also fascinating to hear how they talk about their own thoughts/brain (fortunately, awakening has made me much more adept at these conversations - even though I don’t know anything).
Just a goin’ with tha flowin’
You say to trust the process... But what if one has already been trusting the process for years and years? What to do when one has already gone down all the rabbit holes of practice? All the dead-ends of the seeking mind? When one has already surrendered completely to the process? When one has already given up the trying and seeking? When one is utterly fed up with the seeking mind? When it seems that there is nothing more that can be done? When it feels like it is completely and utterly outside of your hands?
A lot of things has been seen through, and most mental suffering is gone... yet there is not Complete Peace, Stillness and Certainty of the nature of the mind and reality... The Splinter in the mind is still stuck somewhere in the background out of reach of any sorta control/seeking/doing.
May all beings be at peace
I recommend reading the "4 aspects of I AM" on ATR that John Tan recommends focusing on/deepening, to start to open up to nondual. Might be helpful. I found it so.
These quotes may also help:
"""
To drop the bondage/deep conditionings, the mind MUST realise that another way of 'knowing' is possible; an effortless, total sensing and experience of wholeness. Next the experiences of the joy, bliss and clarity of wholeness. Without the insight into the possiblity and the experience of the positive factors, the mind will not release itself from holding.
"""
"""
Even open pure and innocent inquiry is a deep conditioning. Makes the mind chatters incessantly. Every what, when, where and why by itself is a distancing from start. Freeing itself from such mode of inquiry aka 'knowing', the mind rests. The joy of this resting must be experienced for the 'willingness' to arise.
"""
Focus on the effortlessness. Focus on the luminosity of raw sensations.
What is there apart that could either accept or refuse?
Surrender the surrenderer
It might help to try focusing on ATR's "4 aspects of IAM", which John Tan recommends directly after initial I AM realization/awakening. Focusing on the effortlessness, and the luminosity of sensations especially may help. I find it really helps bring about a certain appreciation of the present especially when you feel stuck in a bit of a nihilistic phase -> it's really subtle mental judgement of what's going on that's happening most likely. I found it very helpful myself. Relates as well to when Dilullo mentions "falling in love with just this as it is". Mentioned in the "Awakening in all it's aspects" video with Viivi around 29mins in.
Some quotes from Tan:
"""
To drop the bondage/deep conditionings, the mind MUST realise that another way of 'knowing' is possible; an effortless, total sensing and experience of wholeness. Next the experiences of the joy, bliss and clarity of wholeness. Without the insight into the possiblity and the experience of the positive factors, the mind will not release itself from holding.
"""
"""
Even open pure and innocent inquiry is a deep conditioning. Makes the mind chatters incessantly. Every what, when, where and why by itself is a distancing from start. Freeing itself from such mode of inquiry aka 'knowing', the mind rests. The joy of this resting must be experienced for the 'willingness' to arise.
"""
"The key towards pure knowingness is to bring the taste of presence into the 6 entries and exits. So that what is seen, heard, touched, tasted are pervaded by a deep sense of crystal, radiance and transparency. This requires seeing through the center." - Thusness/John Tan
“It will be advisable to take a step back to re-visit and re-experience each of the 6 sense doors. To cultivate a little on the aspect of being 'bare' for all the senses. Experience as much vividness as possible and have clarity on the luminous aspect of awareness first. Touch, taste, smell and sound… are all equally vivid as compared to seeing. Experience the texture and fabric of awareness. The rest of the conditions that give rise to no-self will come later. :) There is no ‘willful’ entrance into non-duality, create enough conditions, that’s all. :)” - John Tan, 2007
Yup! That is awesome advice 😊
Getting more in touch with that "I am here" sense lately. It's exhausting, because in a way the body/mind is still running off that programming, trying to calm down the body/mind is a hopeless hamster wheel. And the only way out is through it, but god damn is it the most uncomfortable thing you'll ever have to feel. I even see myself exerting so much force trying to run from whatever "this" is that I hardly realize it now, because there is such less identification with the body.
Need to be careful, and simply just rest into what is and trust what is happening. Part of it is you can't really even fathom what we are, and how could that really be what I am, and how it is so perfect in the end it just makes you want to cry forever. It was the heartbreak that never was.
Then you go right back to the hypnosis again, and even forget about it in the first place. But it's like you never forget.. really. I don't know, the flip flopping can be intense.
There's nothing "extra" missing or hidden meanings to search for. You're it, Alpha and Omega ❤
10:27 the reality is overlayed, I saw that like 5 years ago, I thought it's not possible to get rid of the filters, but hey, it seems you can
Thank you 🙏
Thank you…. your clear pointing is very helpful 🙏🙏🙏
I love the part when you just point with questions without much context setting or explanation :))
Could you make more videos where you just drill down with questions? 🙏🏽😁
Thank you, love you
Yes I can
Definitely a wild ride 💯
Great video Angelo! You nailed it down! It’s all about identity! Thanks for sharing.
You come up with some very interesting picture leads.
I wonder if babies are awake when they arrive here and we put them to sleep by ‘socializing’ them.
When I saw about 9yo I would keep asking myself on a loop “who am I? What am I?” I have no idea where the impulse for this arose exactly… but I would have pop-out experiences, like pressing an eject button on ‘reality’. It was both exhilarating and terrifying. Tapping into this intuition 30 years later is my breadcrumb trail I guess.
I have a question about the feeling of being the body. There is this fundamental sense of being the body although it’s clear that this isn’t true. But when being in the visual field and I notice this sense of separation from it, I see clearly that it’s because of this sense of the body and that the bodily boundaries are “my” boundaries.
So my question is: how can this sense of being separate through the body boundaries dissolved? Do you have a practice or exercise to dissolve it? Would be great.
Thank you Angelo for all your help ❤️🙏
Finding the center...I keep coming back to the place in the back of my sinuses where the cold air hits. Lol
Just woke up from a dream, so this likely sounds random. Would the double slit experiment have different results if the one observing it was fully liberated?
Yes, at an early age we learn to wear masks and display various personalities.
In my experience it seems as if shame was the anchor for identification with those masks, those selves. Shame was holding my entire identity together. Maybe identity could also be rooted in other emotions like a sense of pride, but I think there's something almost intrinsic, universal and inevitable about shame that helps us solidify and be a separate entity in this world. It's almost as if the learning of boundaries itself is a "shaming" ritual into the world of separation. Sensations (like touching a hot stove) turn into a narrative and identity forms as the doer and experiencer. "I caused this pain through my action". The very nature of cause and effect as a self can't be learned without shame, I intuit. 😊
Asking again: What would you recommend if one falls asleep as soon as or shortly after beginning to try to do inquiry, no matter what time of day or how much I slept the night before? I suspect that is a "protection trick" from the ego, so what could I try to help or instead?
Thank you! If you have not already discussed this, what is The Imposter I?
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Other than the ability to return, how is this different from dementia?
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Is it normal for your anger to almost be funny the more you do these practices?
I have the same thing, but also with different emotions.
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