I think the funniest thing is that at the end of this series thousands of years later They create a thinking machine that is organic and causes a lot of death and destruction. Good job. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
As Tula was coaching Valya on how not to succumb to the virus - by not fighting her fear but accepting and enduring it and letting it pass her by - I kept waiting for the famous words: “You must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration…”
@@pacman_17yeah george lucas has admitted to cribbing a large amount of inspiration from dune. All good writers have sources of inspiration. Nothing wrong with that.
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
As a fan of not only the books and the Villeneuve films but also the Children of Dune TV series, this was the Dune series I was hoping for. Visually beautiful, exceptional acting from the two leads and Travis Fimmell, intrigue and political machinations, the origins of the Harkonnen/Atreides feud. Can't wait for season 2!!
Man this finale DELIVERED! They packed SO MUCH STUFF in this that I was scared if it would end on a cliffhanger because how could they POSSIBLY FIT SO MUCH IN!? I felt really bad for Emperor Javicco, the poor man had the world literally pulled out under his feet and told that his life is a lie. This was like Shakespearean level tragic with Javicco killing himself, Francesca's heartbreak and getting murdered by Natalya. At least Ness and hot Artreides boy Kieran get to live and the 3 of them get to run off to Arrakis. I love the switching between younger selves and older selves and you get to see how uncomfortable Tula was with her older sister's crazy ambitious, ruthless plans. Even though Tula went ahead with everything, she was incredibly reluctant and was haunted by the lives she took. Tula was strung along and manipulated by her older sis but even then, she made the decision early on that she didn't want her son to experience what a mess of life the 2 sisters had and it broke her heart to send him away. She felt enough was enough when she even used the voice to stop Valya from killing Desmond and chose to seek an alternate solution to free her son from the machine influence vs killing him. I was surprised that Valya agreed to let Tula go. It is a funny thing that despite all the mess they both get up to, they love each other dearly as family and will still help each other out. Especially you would think Valya is usually the heartless very objective one, but she let Tula go. And despite all the mixed feelings Tula has about Valya, she saved her from death by guiding her out of the fear madness, and what looks like the origins of the 'Litany Against fear'. I love how that it originated from Tula and it was she who discovered this. I'm also deeply curious that Jen the Acolyte wasn't infected by the virus, but it is cool that she discovered that she's some sort of dislocation escape artist, which is pretty awesome. But hot damn, what a mess in the Sisterhood now that all the skeletons have been let out of the closet thanks to rezzed Dorothea. I guess Valya will have to burn that bridge and operate on her own doing crazy prophecy seeding stuff in Arrakis. I'm curious as to what Tula is going to do and how she will attempt to heal Desmond / offer her services or yeah big question mark. She may not look that independent but as we've seen, she can take care of herself pretty darn well. That reconciliation scene with Tula and Desmond was heartbreaking and so messy and crazy! Like you can see the confusion in Desmond's eyes and also how emotionally starved and vulnerable he is. And that is a cool twist that there's someone beyond the AI that weaponized him with crazy powers, and it wasn't the sand worm. Super happy that S2 is happening! This show has so much potential and it would be so sad if didn't continue!
Absolutely loved this episode and season. They nailed the landing and im super hype for season 2 it give me the similar dune feel that the miniseries gave me and it feels like it's only going to get better.
I bet Valya was wrong all along, and one day finds out that it WAS actually the Harrkonen who betrayed the Empire and Atreides DID save the day all those years ago...
The ending proves that Desmond is a Ghola. He remembers the work and then waking up in a (tlelaxian lab). Genetic memory for Ghola go up until the time of death. So the Tlelaxians recovered Desmond’s blood and made a Ghola and then awakened his memories. (That’s my theory and I am sticking to it)
impossible because the first time they were able to awaken memories was in duncan idaho, scytale(i think) was flabbergasted by the fact that he restored his memories so it surely wouldnt have been done before. certainly not 10000 years before the events of paul atreides
@@nadiapenn8480 i doubt a baby can remember much, frank never mentioned someone remembering stuff from that age. I think he got to know it in some way from the people that "adopted" him when he was switched with the dead baby
Introducing the Bene Tleilax would make sense for the franchise, but Desmond being a ghola goes against canon. First, even in the Atreides saga they were not able to master eyes, let alone place 10,000 earlier. Second, it is said in Messiah that Duncan Idaho is the first ghola to access his memories.
Let's remember that the last words of the God Emperor was not to worry about the Ixians and that they could not create the Tiran-Arafel/ the Apocalype.... That was really the true purpose of the Kwisatz Haderach.
Ya Ragnar Lothbrok stole the show. As usual. His character is definitely a Paul related idea. Secret harkonen mother, Atredis Father, believed dead on Arakis, rebirth with superpowers. But he’s played by a way cooler actor
I wonder if there is going to be a connection between: Anirul- The First Bene Gesserit Anirul- The Thinking Machine Anirul- The Empress of Shaddam Corrino IV Irulan- Her daughter, the anagram I suspect the last line 'Princess, the path to our enemy begins here' is a double meaning. It will mean something for this story but it will also mean the beginning of the march towards Paul Atreides probably with the union of Atreides and Corrino. He will become the enemy of the Bene Gesserit and of the Princess of the Imperium
I can’t get over the spectacular casting for young and mature characters!! I think if the score in the show would have been closer to the movies, it would have been much more impactful. Still, I’m satisfied with these 6 episodes. Hoping moving forward they will produce more episodes per season. With everything in the books, this show could last quite awhile with characters changing over 10k years, but they could use some work on pacing.
I don't think it is the Ixians. I think it the Tlexalau working with banned technology and that Desmond is a ghola or one of a long line of gholas. When Desmond's vision started in this episode we saw two thumpers. Who besides Fremen would be crazy enough to call a worm? I think it is a manufactured memory to explain his disappearance and miraculous survival.
Ghola can't remember their past yet. Desmond remember who he is. He probably was saved by one of Vorean Atreides upgraded siblings that killed Griffin.
Ghost in the shell (1995). Star Trek: First Contact (1996). Foundation (2021). Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015). Terminator (1984). Oppenheimer (2023}. Battlestar Galactica (2004). The Matrix: Revolutions (2003). What a beautiful sequence to illustrate the Ixians lore.
While we pretty much know Valya's vision for the Bene Gesserit will succeed, what likely won't succeed is her plan to put Ynez on the throne, simply because, if it were possible to have a female Bene Gesserit on the throne, there'd be no need for a Kwisatz Haderach - a male Bene Gesserit. So it'll be interesting to see how they play that out in Season 2.
I'm curious how the machine saved desmond from the worm though.. I mean was the machine hanging out in the worms belly and when Desmond got swallowed it saved him?
And Paul was trained as a Swordmaster by Duncan and (spoiler from the prequel books which will probably never be made into a show) as an actor who can manipulate large crowds
Same it’s like they weren’t pleased with the quality of the first few episodes so just stopped recapping?? But the series ended up being really good so now we just have a strange gap in the middle where they did episodes like one and two and the finale without doing three four and five
Fine for a science fiction show. Just doesn’t work, as one meant to be set in the DUNE universe. Which appears to be fairly common, when making adaptations for television unfortunately.
I have always been fascinated by the Weirding Way, even as a young teenager some 45+ years ago. That the Fremen got a huge power-up by Paul teaching them, and then them using it to trounce the Sadakar (sp?) even more decidedly than they might have otherwise did without it. Needless to say, I was pretty disappointed when they decided to not use special effects showing them teleporting around the battlefield in the latest Dune movies. Finally, the retcon I wish the Dune folks had fixed was the "no one uses lasers because the Holzman shields reaction was an atomic explosion." A sacrifice to create an atomic explosion is just too easy.
I can’t wait until season two it kept me on my toes, but it’s a fantastic series and I love Travis Fimmel‘s part. He plays it very well. He’s an amazing actor brings out everything in the movies.
16:29 this is a good point. The plan that AI gives them takes 10,000 years to produce a make with the same power set and it was still “too soon”. Like what human benefits from a plan that lasts that long?
That assumes the AI plan would take that long. That's not confirmed. Perhaps the AI plan would have been a lot quicker but then Doratea destroyed it, perhaps they then have to rely on Presience to complete the breeding plan which takes longer.
@ I’m not assuming the plan took that long I’m just doing the math from the prequel to the timeline of the main story. When it was 10,000 years later and Paul was born the bene said it was one generation too early and she was meant to have a girl that would’ve been wed to a harkonen.
@@chefadamcooks What you're saying isn't relevant to my comment. You literally said the plan the AI gave them takes 10,000 years. THAT ISN'T TRUE. We don't know how long it will take. The ONLY thing we know is they were breeding the perfect candidate to put on the throne - which was the Princess. That took only 1 generation. There's no mention of the Kwisatz Haderach at this point and we don't know if the AI is the one that will "plan" the breeding program for this indvidual - particularly because Doratea destroys the AI lol.
Heavy Spoilers uploaded a video for the finale of the MGM show From without posting videos for each episode throughout the season. How is that any different?
@Gobirds616 I don't know what MGM is but it's no different, I recommend as a viewer you put your eyes on channels that care more for the content more than caring for the views. It's very obvious his guy is reading a script for this video and hasn't been watching dune
The cloaked figure watching Desmond being altered by the machine might be Vorian Atreides who himself was altered by machines to prolong his life. Early season 2 theory: Vorian is revealed as the real antagonist of the series.
It can't be a coincidence that the person who plays Dorothea reincarnated looks just like the guy who played Paul atreidies in the William hurt Mini series back in the day.
Was I the only one who thought the blue eyes were Paul's? That the lisan al gaib was actually the vision of destruction/downfall that they were unknowingly running toward and not away from.
This show def felt like it got cut down to 6 episodes halfway through production. Episodes 1-4 were a slow burn but then 5 and definitely 6 took it up a notch, and 6 is 80 minutes long! If the producers were aware of a 6 episode commitment I think they would've paced it better.
In reading about Herbert and his process, His son claims that our computers today, and even decades or centuries ahead are NOT even close to the level of sophistication of the kind of thing banned in the Duniverse. The guild is using compilers that are NOT even questionable, alongside developing more piwerful predictive systems that are indeed quite controversial in the extended books. It's worth noting that while we see things seem to use circuitry, nothing inanimate is ever autonomous except for...guided missiles (Duh!!!!)
What about the spacing guild? The navigators would be the player behind the shadows, wouldn't they?
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Not really. All that matters to the Guild is the spice flow, economy that never stops and their monopoly to space travel. They don't have any political agendas, they don't really care what Landsraad or Emperor or any other faction do aslong as spice is flowing. P.S. Forgot to mention, the Guild is still very young at this stage and the whole timeline is very complicated because there is Original timeline and timeline from Expanded universe, which we must use here. So, Javicco Corrino's rule started in the year 9 AG (after Guild creation), thus Guild cannot be older than roughly, what, say...60 years? The fact the Guild was formerly known as Foldspace Shipping Company complicates the matter even more...
It's a small nitpick, but IIRC in the books undergoing the agony only granted the memories of their ancestors up until the point that they gave birth to the next generation because the memories are passed on genetically. So Lila-as-Dorothea wouldn't remember her death or the events leading up to it. That sort of derails the whole plot though, so I get why they changed it.
i believe the entirety of the dream is up to self interpretation. It can easily fit Paul, Leto II, and Desmond. I could be totally wrong but I’d like to think so
Desmond should have been a Tlailaxu before they mutate themselves into little goblins. They talk about Tlailaxu attempts to make a Kwaizats Hederach. This would explain why they view Leto as a Prophet, like Desmond he is also born twice, once by surviving "inside" a worm.
My outside shout is that it’s linked to Erasmus, irregardless of the debate around the prequel books his character is an interesting one and he’d have the wherewithal to do something so dangerous. In the books he’s known for wearing a cape and had even created a human body for himself cloned from an adopted son and mentat. It’s unlikely, but it would be interesting to see Erasmus in the show laying foundations for an AI return
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I just finished this season. It felt cohesive to the films and books. I've read the original books and most of the prequels. It was interesting to see the early Bene Gesserit. They are less refined. There is nothing of the Guild in this. This could be the 3rd power, but Ix is more logical.
Erasmus likes experimenting on humans, and since he is still around in the book, I am wondering if that is, who did it to Desmond. And the cloaked figure is Gilbertus Albans
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First mentat? I highly doubt it, he's already dead during series.
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I think the funniest thing is that at the end of this series thousands of years later They create a thinking machine that is organic and causes a lot of death and destruction. Good job. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
As Tula was coaching Valya on how not to succumb to the virus - by not fighting her fear but accepting and enduring it and letting it pass her by - I kept waiting for the famous words:
“You must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration…”
Yoda:
"Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering."
@@pacman_17yeah george lucas has admitted to cribbing a large amount of inspiration from dune. All good writers have sources of inspiration. Nothing wrong with that.
Kind of glad they didn’t go there. Would have been too on the nose.
@@pacman_17 Yoda, a big one... he must suck...
Me too!!!
So grateful this show was well handled.
it feels very compatible with the DUNE movies, while depicting so many new things as well.
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
As a fan of not only the books and the Villeneuve films but also the Children of Dune TV series, this was the Dune series I was hoping for. Visually beautiful, exceptional acting from the two leads and Travis Fimmell, intrigue and political machinations, the origins of the Harkonnen/Atreides feud. Can't wait for season 2!!
Francesca didn't hear the empress with her high heels in that big room sneak up on her?
RIDICULOUS!!!!
this show has turned out to be one of my favorites.
Agreed. Typically, I'm not a fan of flashbacks, but all the young actors were phenomenal.
@ same, the flashbacks gave good context
Same! I was sceptical at first, but the show really blew me away
By the end it did. I had SERIOUS issues with the show prior. But that finale was INCREDIBLE!
FR. My expectations weren't high but how I wish we had more episodes at least 2 more lol.
Man this finale DELIVERED! They packed SO MUCH STUFF in this that I was scared if it would end on a cliffhanger because how could they POSSIBLY FIT SO MUCH IN!? I felt really bad for Emperor Javicco, the poor man had the world literally pulled out under his feet and told that his life is a lie. This was like Shakespearean level tragic with Javicco killing himself, Francesca's heartbreak and getting murdered by Natalya. At least Ness and hot Artreides boy Kieran get to live and the 3 of them get to run off to Arrakis. I love the switching between younger selves and older selves and you get to see how uncomfortable Tula was with her older sister's crazy ambitious, ruthless plans. Even though Tula went ahead with everything, she was incredibly reluctant and was haunted by the lives she took. Tula was strung along and manipulated by her older sis but even then, she made the decision early on that she didn't want her son to experience what a mess of life the 2 sisters had and it broke her heart to send him away. She felt enough was enough when she even used the voice to stop Valya from killing Desmond and chose to seek an alternate solution to free her son from the machine influence vs killing him. I was surprised that Valya agreed to let Tula go. It is a funny thing that despite all the mess they both get up to, they love each other dearly as family and will still help each other out. Especially you would think Valya is usually the heartless very objective one, but she let Tula go. And despite all the mixed feelings Tula has about Valya, she saved her from death by guiding her out of the fear madness, and what looks like the origins of the 'Litany Against fear'. I love how that it originated from Tula and it was she who discovered this. I'm also deeply curious that Jen the Acolyte wasn't infected by the virus, but it is cool that she discovered that she's some sort of dislocation escape artist, which is pretty awesome. But hot damn, what a mess in the Sisterhood now that all the skeletons have been let out of the closet thanks to rezzed Dorothea. I guess Valya will have to burn that bridge and operate on her own doing crazy prophecy seeding stuff in Arrakis. I'm curious as to what Tula is going to do and how she will attempt to heal Desmond / offer her services or yeah big question mark. She may not look that independent but as we've seen, she can take care of herself pretty darn well. That reconciliation scene with Tula and Desmond was heartbreaking and so messy and crazy! Like you can see the confusion in Desmond's eyes and also how emotionally starved and vulnerable he is. And that is a cool twist that there's someone beyond the AI that weaponized him with crazy powers, and it wasn't the sand worm.
Super happy that S2 is happening! This show has so much potential and it would be so sad if didn't continue!
Chill
Absolutely loved this episode and season. They nailed the landing and im super hype for season 2 it give me the similar dune feel that the miniseries gave me and it feels like it's only going to get better.
I cant believe Valya and Kieran Atreides is working together for the moment.
I said the same thing!!
A harrkonen and an Attredies working together, wild!
@@shortstuff780 to fight Desmond who's both lol
@@porksandbean hahahaha true
I bet Valya was wrong all along, and one day finds out that it WAS actually the Harrkonen who betrayed the Empire and Atreides DID save the day all those years ago...
*david benioff voice* “valya just ‘forgot’ about the atreides” 🥴
The ending proves that Desmond is a Ghola. He remembers the work and then waking up in a (tlelaxian lab). Genetic memory for Ghola go up until the time of death. So the Tlelaxians recovered Desmond’s blood and made a Ghola and then awakened his memories. (That’s my theory and I am sticking to it)
impossible because the first time they were able to awaken memories was in duncan idaho, scytale(i think) was flabbergasted by the fact that he restored his memories so it surely wouldnt have been done before. certainly not 10000 years before the events of paul atreides
But Desmong tells the Empress that he was abandoned by a Bene Gesserit witch, so he knows who his mother is before he meets Tula
@@nadiapenn8480 i doubt a baby can remember much, frank never mentioned someone remembering stuff from that age. I think he got to know it in some way from the people that "adopted" him when he was switched with the dead baby
Introducing the Bene Tleilax would make sense for the franchise, but Desmond being a ghola goes against canon. First, even in the Atreides saga they were not able to master eyes, let alone place 10,000 earlier. Second, it is said in Messiah that Duncan Idaho is the first ghola to access his memories.
This was the best analysis I have seen. Excellent!
The show was renewed for a second season, announced on the 19th.
2026 is such a long time away, but it'll be fast
Let's remember that the last words of the God Emperor was not to worry about the Ixians and that they could not create the Tiran-Arafel/ the Apocalype.... That was really the true purpose of the Kwisatz Haderach.
Aka The Golden Path
imagine we get to the Dune 7 movie, and og duke Leto comes back and unironically utters the line "somehow omnius returned"
“I must not fear, fear is the mind killer” literal chills
Ya Ragnar Lothbrok stole the show. As usual. His character is definitely a Paul related idea. Secret harkonen mother, Atredis Father, believed dead on Arakis, rebirth with superpowers. But he’s played by a way cooler actor
@@bclr6843 "WHO?!? WANTS TO BE KING!?!?"
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I wonder if there is going to be a connection between:
Anirul- The First Bene Gesserit
Anirul- The Thinking Machine
Anirul- The Empress of Shaddam Corrino IV
Irulan- Her daughter, the anagram
I suspect the last line 'Princess, the path to our enemy begins here' is a double meaning. It will mean something for this story but it will also mean the beginning of the march towards Paul Atreides probably with the union of Atreides and Corrino. He will become the enemy of the Bene Gesserit and of the Princess of the Imperium
I can’t get over the spectacular casting for young and mature characters!! I think if the score in the show would have been closer to the movies, it would have been much more impactful. Still, I’m satisfied with these 6 episodes. Hoping moving forward they will produce more episodes per season. With everything in the books, this show could last quite awhile with characters changing over 10k years, but they could use some work on pacing.
The Heavy Spoilers destructo beam was oddly satisfying.
That's my boy Paul!!! 👍🏽👏🏽
I don't think it is the Ixians. I think it the Tlexalau working with banned technology and that Desmond is a ghola or one of a long line of gholas. When Desmond's vision started in this episode we saw two thumpers. Who besides Fremen would be crazy enough to call a worm? I think it is a manufactured memory to explain his disappearance and miraculous survival.
Ghola can't remember their past yet. Desmond remember who he is. He probably was saved by one of Vorean Atreides upgraded siblings that killed Griffin.
I think he is the kwisatz who killed himself
I think this House Ordos, I don't have any evidence, but I think it's them
@@billylyons7212 That is why I said the memories are false.
Ghost in the shell (1995). Star Trek: First Contact (1996). Foundation (2021). Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015). Terminator (1984). Oppenheimer (2023}. Battlestar Galactica (2004). The Matrix: Revolutions (2003). What a beautiful sequence to illustrate the Ixians lore.
Totally agree - the editing in this particular breakdown was so so so good!
While we pretty much know Valya's vision for the Bene Gesserit will succeed, what likely won't succeed is her plan to put Ynez on the throne, simply because, if it were possible to have a female Bene Gesserit on the throne, there'd be no need for a Kwisatz Haderach - a male Bene Gesserit. So it'll be interesting to see how they play that out in Season 2.
This is one of the best reviews of the ending episode of Dune: Prophecy
One thing I like about HBO is that they keep outdoing themselves with their shows.
I'm curious how the machine saved desmond from the worm though.. I mean was the machine hanging out in the worms belly and when Desmond got swallowed it saved him?
The ned was great. Merry Christmas. Do an Australian tour and i'm there.
Huge fan of the Duniverse, and this series was well done, and even has mass appeal beyond the dedicated fandom.
dude the "lisan al gaib" that stilgar hits after Paul beats Feyd is actually legendary
Damn ragnor survived till humans reached space, sounds like a lore accurate ragnor
Paul is not a guild navigator. He is prescient, but that doesn’t make him a navigator.
He could navigate a highliner if he wanted to, thus he is or could be a navigator.
And Paul was trained as a Swordmaster by Duncan and (spoiler from the prequel books which will probably never be made into a show) as an actor who can manipulate large crowds
Was a big fan of the show. Hope we get a lot more dune content
Why did you skip explaining each episode? Disappointed I didn't get any Dune: Prophecy content since the first episode.
Same it’s like they weren’t pleased with the quality of the first few episodes so just stopped recapping?? But the series ended up being really good so now we just have a strange gap in the middle where they did episodes like one and two and the finale without doing three four and five
What did you think of season 1?
I really wish y’all had done a breakdown for each episode 😞 Heavy Spoilers is good but they ain’t y’all 🤷♂️
It was OK
I loved it, although I missed your breakdowns for the other episodes.
Meh, this episode was a step in better direction.
Fine for a science fiction show. Just doesn’t work, as one meant to be set in the DUNE universe. Which appears to be fairly common, when making adaptations for television unfortunately.
Thanks for the video!
You’re a legend 🎉 great content 😜
I have always been fascinated by the Weirding Way, even as a young teenager some 45+ years ago. That the Fremen got a huge power-up by Paul teaching them, and then them using it to trounce the Sadakar (sp?) even more decidedly than they might have otherwise did without it. Needless to say, I was pretty disappointed when they decided to not use special effects showing them teleporting around the battlefield in the latest Dune movies. Finally, the retcon I wish the Dune folks had fixed was the "no one uses lasers because the Holzman shields reaction was an atomic explosion." A sacrifice to create an atomic explosion is just too easy.
Sardaukar(s) is correct spelling.
I can’t wait until season two it kept me on my toes, but it’s a fantastic series and I love Travis Fimmel‘s part. He plays it very well. He’s an amazing actor brings out everything in the movies.
I loved the Heavy Spoilers collab!! Hahaha just awesome 😂😂😂
I wish we got more than 6 eps! I hope season 2 we get 8 or 10. Loved the show.
this channel will never stop with the “somehow palpatine returned joke”
The Bene Gesserit is the only thing interesting about the Dune franchise and they are KILLING IT!!!
Yoda:
"Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering."
I had this wild theory that Desmond Hart was the son of Admiral Hart from schools of Dune series which Dune Proficy is the apparent sequel to.
16:29 this is a good point. The plan that AI gives them takes 10,000 years to produce a make with the same power set and it was still “too soon”. Like what human benefits from a plan that lasts that long?
That assumes the AI plan would take that long. That's not confirmed. Perhaps the AI plan would have been a lot quicker but then Doratea destroyed it, perhaps they then have to rely on Presience to complete the breeding plan which takes longer.
@ I’m not assuming the plan took that long I’m just doing the math from the prequel to the timeline of the main story. When it was 10,000 years later and Paul was born the bene said it was one generation too early and she was meant to have a girl that would’ve been wed to a harkonen.
@@chefadamcooks What you're saying isn't relevant to my comment. You literally said the plan the AI gave them takes 10,000 years. THAT ISN'T TRUE. We don't know how long it will take. The ONLY thing we know is they were breeding the perfect candidate to put on the throne - which was the Princess. That took only 1 generation. There's no mention of the Kwisatz Haderach at this point and we don't know if the AI is the one that will "plan" the breeding program for this indvidual - particularly because Doratea destroys the AI lol.
This show is 10/10!!!
Just here to say that I'll be supporting HEAVY SPOILERS as they stuck with the series each week and are genuine.
Heavy Spoilers uploaded a video for the finale of the MGM show From without posting videos for each episode throughout the season. How is that any different?
@Gobirds616 I don't know what MGM is but it's no different, I recommend as a viewer you put your eyes on channels that care more for the content more than caring for the views. It's very obvious his guy is reading a script for this video and hasn't been watching dune
@ same with Paul bud open your eyes
The cloaked figure watching Desmond being altered by the machine might be Vorian Atreides who himself was altered by machines to prolong his life. Early season 2 theory: Vorian is revealed as the real antagonist of the series.
It can't be a coincidence that the person who plays Dorothea reincarnated looks just like the guy who played Paul atreidies in the William hurt Mini series back in the day.
Was I the only one who thought the blue eyes were Paul's? That the lisan al gaib was actually the vision of destruction/downfall that they were unknowingly running toward and not away from.
This show def felt like it got cut down to 6 episodes halfway through production. Episodes 1-4 were a slow burn but then 5 and definitely 6 took it up a notch, and 6 is 80 minutes long! If the producers were aware of a 6 episode commitment I think they would've paced it better.
Wild
This is the best series ending of 2024! Movie-esque!
Love how the new version takes the class conflict completely out of it lol
I am so grateful for this Heavy Spoilers crossover
So this is where they get fear is the mind killer phrase from ?
In reading about Herbert and his process, His son claims that our computers today, and even decades or centuries ahead are NOT even close to the level of sophistication of the kind of thing banned in the Duniverse. The guild is using compilers that are NOT even questionable, alongside developing more piwerful predictive systems that are indeed quite controversial in the extended books. It's worth noting that while we see things seem to use circuitry, nothing inanimate is ever autonomous except for...guided missiles (Duh!!!!)
Screencrush with the end credit scenes? Let’s gooo! 😂
The whole fear litany likely began here with her surviving.
I think it was so stupid to do a Harkonnen/Atreides matching before the 10k years of breeding required for a Kwisatz Haderach
Say that to Tula. Somehow I feel she had real emotions toward Orry Atreides, but killing him and other Atreides is loyalty to her house.
The order 66 comment - chefs kiss
What about the spacing guild? The navigators would be the player behind the shadows, wouldn't they?
Not really. All that matters to the Guild is the spice flow, economy that never stops and their monopoly to space travel. They don't have any political agendas, they don't really care what Landsraad or Emperor or any other faction do aslong as spice is flowing.
P.S. Forgot to mention, the Guild is still very young at this stage and the whole timeline is very complicated because there is Original timeline and timeline from Expanded universe, which we must use here. So, Javicco Corrino's rule started in the year 9 AG (after Guild creation), thus Guild cannot be older than roughly, what, say...60 years? The fact the Guild was formerly known as Foldspace Shipping Company complicates the matter even more...
I love their friendship 😂
It's a small nitpick, but IIRC in the books undergoing the agony only granted the memories of their ancestors up until the point that they gave birth to the next generation because the memories are passed on genetically. So Lila-as-Dorothea wouldn't remember her death or the events leading up to it. That sort of derails the whole plot though, so I get why they changed it.
Excellent Office stich😂
You guys this show deserved a breakdown for each episode
Your mom loves her job too, she's always on her back!
I think we are seeing the Tleilaxu with Desmond
Kyle MacLachlan and Sean Young are like wtf
Why wasn’t this show covered? You literally only did episode 1 and the finale
The video probably had low views, so they didn't see the need to cover the other episodes if they were gonna have low views too
Lol love the crossover at the end 😅
I wanted them to say 'fear is the mind-killer'
atreides harkounen corrion on the same team together again against thinking machine is insane
i believe the entirety of the dream is up to self interpretation. It can easily fit Paul, Leto II, and Desmond. I could be totally wrong but I’d like to think so
bro just forgot Dune existed all this while
Just remember, when reality begins to resemble Dune, that it all started with self checkout and chatbots.
Dang!!! You're telling me Ragnar Lothbrok is the OG Kwisatz Haderach!?!?
Desmond should have been a Tlailaxu before they mutate themselves into little goblins. They talk about Tlailaxu attempts to make a Kwaizats Hederach. This would explain why they view Leto as a Prophet, like Desmond he is also born twice, once by surviving "inside" a worm.
Now you cover dune after making me listen to Paul all season long?
My outside shout is that it’s linked to Erasmus, irregardless of the debate around the prequel books his character is an interesting one and he’d have the wherewithal to do something so dangerous. In the books he’s known for wearing a cape and had even created a human body for himself cloned from an adopted son and mentat.
It’s unlikely, but it would be interesting to see Erasmus in the show laying foundations for an AI return
I worry that in trying to make the show lore deep and rich, they actually just lose track of the meaning and plot web.
I really loved this show. You see some complaints that it’s “too complicated” but I think that’s fine! It’s impossible to please everyone
The cloaked figure is Erasmus, not Omnious
Did Tula know that Kieran Atreides is the one who left when she killed bunch of Atreides?
My Reddit post weeks ago called Desmond being from the machines
As i was confused to were i should start to see Dune movie its more confusing
Anyone please suggest me were should I start and buy list our time of relase or how can I watch the movies 😅😅😅
I just finished this season. It felt cohesive to the films and books. I've read the original books and most of the prequels.
It was interesting to see the early Bene Gesserit. They are less refined.
There is nothing of the Guild in this. This could be the 3rd power, but Ix is more logical.
21:40 that aged well
17:22 “but” 👀
Erasmus likes experimenting on humans, and since he is still around in the book, I am wondering if that is, who did it to Desmond. And the cloaked figure is Gilbertus Albans
First mentat? I highly doubt it, he's already dead during series.
Will Alejandro Jodorowsky ever be asked to direct or do a collaboration in the Dune film universe?
What does this say about the "farm couple" at the end of the scattering???
Isn’t it more likely that the thinking machine is Erasmus and not Omnius?
Hooded figure….Erasmus, who works with Omnius.
desmond was created by rakela's daughter (who im guessing can see in the future
I predict Valya regains control of the sisterhood by denouncing possession as abomination
Could be! She's one step ahead of everyone
Are these the only two videos this channel did for this show??? First episode and last??? I can’t find anything for episodes 2-5 whatsoever.
What did I miss? Why is Ryan in the TV now?
where was the ester eggs videos for the series?
Its refreshing when a fucking sci fi franchise is what brings shakespearean biblical level writing back to the mainstream.