I loved how they showed normal Lannister soldiers, just like the northern men, they are just poor boys pulled away from their life for a stupid war. I think this was the best scene in the episode!
You know who else was dragged into the war because of their fathers and liege lords? The Freys Not all of them were present for the wedding and are evil, but it didn't stop Arya for killing them all
It was probably the worst scene in the episode, like why the fuck is ed sheeran popping up for and plus having tommy turgoose in the scene makes in 3x worse
This one scene really shows the humanity of the series and of life itself. That most soldiers don't want war, they want peace and to be with their families. I wish there was more of this in the series.
It's so heavy handed though they repeat about 8 times things about what nice lovely chaps they all are. The show originally stressed how horrible war was, how soliders did unspeakable things when ransacking a city or after plunder and treasure. The soliders were not Knights in shinning armour, the show was being honest and realistic about the kind of times it wanted to potray. Secondly the scene is largely spoilt by having a famous pop star in it which just feels like one of those moments in Batman the TV show where a famous guest star pops up for no real reason.
@@lw3646 Bro there was plenty of "heavy handed" moments in the show too. Sometimes it had to be. Heck half the exposition in the series was done through sex scene pillow talk lol. In the book you can humanize the average solider better. When household guards of the Starks die we have had little insights into who they were, so we feel sorry for Fat Tom when he dies. The show did almost none of this before this scene about who was actually doing the fighting. Even Jory's death didnt feel as heavy as it should have and did in the books. The argument too that "well there was a famous pop star in it" like, ignore it lol. His character in the show was fine. Its not really that more distracting than "YARP" from Hot Fuzz being The Hound or anything similar. If he's acting was horrible you'd have an argument but i watched this with people who did not know who Ed Sheeran was and enjoyed the scene a lot.
Refreshing to see a normal group of soldiers who aren’t thieves bullies and rapist. Great especially since they’re Lannister soldiers it shows they’re normal people pulled into others wars
That’s because they are new and haven’t experienced war nor has the order been given to burn and pillage like the Lannisters did to the riverlands in the beginning
Arya's face when a soldier says, "my father would be alone and I ought to be with him", and when another says," Girls take care of their Papas when they grow old". It's evident she thinks of Ned and how much she wishes he was alive. This is a heartwarming moment for Arya, seeing genuinely good people after a long time. But it's also sad to know she neither has her loving father nor has seen her family in a long time. Well done, Maisie!
Although some people don't like this scene it seems to be important. Arya noticed the Lannister soldiers and goes in with intentions to kill them, but then she notices they're some good chaps.
People seem really hung up on Ed Sheeran for some reason. Dude doesn't even say anything. Purpose of this scene imho was to portray the human side of war. Especially since we've gotten a boat load of "ALL LANNISTERS ARE EVIL" recently. Personally I really liked this scene.
Luthies yeah if you would not know that was ed sheeran, most people would not care. I think this scene was made for arya to realise that not everyone with lannisters is bad.
AM The scene was paralleling walder frey, he killed people after giving them food. he killed his guest, if arya were to kill them she'd be no different from walder.Thats why this scene is important
Arya is so associated with the stranger throughout the series that I can't help but think of the Lannister soldier offering kindness to a stranger (Arya) as him offering kindness to death, and perhaps in turn death will be kind to him on the battlefield, sparing him when next they meet. Also, how does she always end up getting the best road food in the seven kingdoms?! I really enjoy the bit where Arya questions the soldier about why he would prefer his newborn baby to be a girl. She wasn't raised observing the values of the small folk, but rather observing the nobility, their preference for sons and their dire need for heirs. It's probably quite the culture shock to her to imagine that someone would prefer to have a daughter.
Not all Lannister soldiers are bad just like not all Stark soldiers are good. Remember the episode with 3 Stark soldiers that Brienne killed because they murdered 3 innocent women?
Yeah... this scene didnt feel forced at all. Ed Sheeran took me out of the immersion and the scene did what intended, in 5 mins and in a cheesy manner. They should not have spent 5 minutes on almost nothing. My opinion but I got taken out of the show 100%.
Well like a wise man once said, "There's good and evil on both sides" Soldiers are like anyone, some are nice and some are not. Seems like Arya bumped into the nice bunch this time.
The fact that the random soldiers that Arya's having this tender moment with are all Lannisters just adds to how great this scene is. We see the humanity of the side that have been the villains from the start.
The great thing about GoT is that you can't really pigeonhole one side as "villains". If this show started off with the Lannister family instead of Starks, we'd be rooting for them instead. Or if you only read/watch from Daenerys' perspective, Baratheons & Starks are the evil ones too. That's the beauty of GoT, everyone's the hero in their own eyes.
I remember hearing that Ed Sheeran was going to be on the show. I was like, "Okay, that's cool, I guess... I mean, I don't really know too much about him." Then time goes by, I forget about it, and I watch the episode. I observe Arya interacting with Lannister soldiers and notice that she is beginning to see them not as targets but as humans. This reminded me of the Lady Crane arc from last season. After the episode, people begin talking about Ed Sheeran again. At which point I think, "Oh, that was his scene?" Then people begin acting like the scene was out of place. I personally hadn't gotten that impression. I have seen comments like "This was the worst scene" or "Why didn't Arya kill them? She's getting weak... the show is ruined," etc. Personally, however, I enjoyed the scene. My greatest fear for Arya has always been that she will lose herself and become a bloodthirsty killer with no remorse. I have always believed her to have a compassionate heart alongside her fierce vengeful spirit. Compassion is not weakness. Arya's first scene in this episode primarily demonstrated the latter, while this second scene primarily demonstrated the former. The men of House Frey were directly responsible for the Red Wedding, and thus winter came for them all. There is nothing to suggest, however, that these Lannister soldiers had any part in the death of a Stark. The women of House Frey were spared as they were not responsible for the Red Wedding. Cersei Lannister is very clearly still on the list for all she has done to the Starks. So no, Arya has not gone weak. Neither is Jon for calling upon Ned Umber and Alys Karstark for fidelity rather than banishing them from their castles for the sins of their fathers. They are picking their battles and realizing who their enemies really are. Here endeth the lesson.
that's NOT Ed Sheeran, it's Jaqen H'ghar disguised as Ed Sheeran. Jaqen's face changing skills are so advanced, he can take on faces from different dimensions.
My favorite scene. I feared that Arya would lose her soul with all the killing and murder. The Frey's deserved their lot, but in this scene, Arya sees the humanity in her enemies, and that they all aren't evil. This is a crucial lesson for her to learn going forward, and to focus her wrath on those who truly deserve it. And it was nice to see Arya truly laugh!!
Really enjoyed this scene. Not only did it show humanity in Arya but it showed humanity in Lannister soldiers. Some people are just following orders and not bad at all.
@@thenotorious844no those lads were dispatched as peacekeepers to the twins and river lands. They wouldnt have been hundreds of miles from th reach where denerys ambushed the lanister/tarly column.
I really loved this scene. Not just because of Ed, but because of the other characters. They were all so warm and kind. That's become so RARE in GoT. It really brought out the fact that there is definitely some good left in Westeros, all over. You could always find someone who would be kind to you. Whether they were common people, lords or soldiers
While everyone's talking about Ed Sheeran. The most emotional scene that got me here is the one Lannister Soldier that mentions that his wife just had a baby and hopes it's a girl because daughters take care of their dads when they grow old, meanwhile sons have to fight their father's wars and the worst part is they don't know why. Arya looks so sad at that prospect because her dad's dead, also shows Ned always tried to suit his children's best interests at heart and look what Robb did; fought his father's wars and lost. I think for Arya in this scene she realized not all Lannister soldiers are evil, they're just simple men that are fighting someone else's war, they just want to go back to their families.
_"Well, Mother always told me to be kind to strangers. Strangers will be kind to you."_ Got it? *Arya is The Stranger of the Seven now. Arya is Death.* She showed them mercy here. Lady Crane will be so proud.
Seetha Golden I think I remember a picture of him on set fighting when it has been revealed he'll be on the show, so we don't quite know yet if the boys will make it out of the forest alive :D
Good one! I really thought the look in the eyes of Arya after that sentence was because she remembered Catelyn! But now that you wrote this I'm speechless!
So far the faith of the seven is shown as a false religion as it doesn't have any physical evidence, unlike the Red God, the drowned God, the many faced God etc who all have physical evidences. But in a classic GRRM twist, it might be revealed in the end that it is the faith of the seven which is the one true religion and the others faiths are just a bunch of blood magic rituals and trickery. The seven Gods have reincarnated in the form of humans, like Jon, Sansa, Arya, Melisandre, Jaime etc to defeat the white walkers. So even though it is ridiculed as a fake religion, in the end it will be revealed to be the true religion. This is something I expect GRRM to come up with.
I love the detail of her only taking food from them after they show they're not bad people and she decides not to kill them. Arya takes guest right seriously.
I like this scene because it shows us that the common folk on either side of the war aren't evil, they have their own lives and families. Arya, and the watcher, is weary to trust the Lannister soldiers but they are simply following their lords and bear no ill will. Sheeran didn't break my immersion because his acting was decent but that might be because I don't follow him. Also it'd be interesting to see them killed by Nymeria and how Arya reacts to that.
This scene is actually great. She hated Lannisters for so long she never realized many of their soldiers were just young men with lives and consciences. They were even singing a NEW song, not the same old Lannister theme that her brother heart upon his death. This scene gives hope.
I think when she said "I'm going to kill the queen" and looked around to see their reactions she was just testing them and how they would react and she would then make a decision on wether to kill them or not
I love this scene. It shows the truth that for 99.9% of the people living in Westeros want peace and don't care about the plots of nobles. So often we see Lannister soilders and think they share the values of that family but the truth is they aren't, they're just normal people. I also love Arya in this scene because its the first time she's smiled and laughed since season 1. She's around good people and is able to be the old Arya again even if only for a moment.
I loved this scene. It showed Arya the humanity in Lannister soldiers. They aren't all horrible evil people. Just people, who happen to work for horrible evil people.
The scene was a nice way of contrasting the opening Frey scene. It shows that even though Arya has become a ruthless killer, she still has a human side. She wanted revenge and killed every male Frey, even those not involved in the red wedding. But she spares the Lannister soldiers because she sees them as normal people dragged into a war they wanted no part in. That being said, I would have preferred if Ed Sheeran wasn't in the seen. He sticks out like a sore thumb and draws most of the audience's focus. It felt almost like a parody from an awards show.
I always found it sweet what that soldier said about wanting a girl. Like he was basically saying she'll be expected to stay safe at home and not get caught up in a clash of kings like he did.
I don't know why so much hate in social media on this scene, or Ed. It's not about him. It's about common people fighting someone else's wars. Ser Jorah told Daenerys in season 1 "The common people pray for rain, healthy children, and a summer that never ends. It is no matter to them if the high lords play their game of thrones, so long as they are left in peace. They never are" That what they showed us. common people desires
I loved this scene. It shows the suffering of all soldiers in all wars. They miss everything, They want to go home. They don't care about wars. They just want to live with their families in peace.
I had no fucking clue who he was and I thought nothing of it. He barely says a word. Kind of tense scene, I thought the Lannisters men were going to attack Arya. It was a good scene but it just goes to show that people will hate for any reason.
It was a good scene, but I think for a lot of the people the problem was that they didn't even try to make Ed Sheeran look like a GoT character, but instead had him be just Ed Sheeran. Hair style, body language, facial expression, all looked like he came straight out of a talk show and just put on a Lannister armor. It was very confusing and took you out of the moment. It was badly executed and the blame is naturally on the show creators, not Ed Sheeran.
2008sALINAs same here. I'd never heard of him and at work today others were saying "oh did you see Ed Sheeran on GOT" and I'm "Ed Who???" And then it's Oh you know that song Galway Girl Oh that's why - I always change the damn station when that comes on...
I enjoyed this whole scene. Not because of Ed's presence or because of any value to the story...but rather because it was refreshing, for a moment, for a main character to encounter a group of people who weren't out to kill them or cause trouble. It was just a group of good hearted, decent lads who shared some food and wine with a girl traveling alone. Even tho mean hearted people are the key to any adventure story, as I said, it was kewl to see there are kind and friendly people there as well. Kinda makes the environment a little more believable.
I liked this scene it prove that Lannister's army are not all bad guy it's a lot of peasants ppl who were force to fight in someone war.. the cameo was fun the song was good ppl need to stop being asshole and complain about it
What I really liked about this scene was Arya experiencing friendly "enemys" for the first time. Maybe she won't be such a cold killer anymore from now on that she knows that not every enemy soldier is a bad guy in general...
Beautifully filmed first episode - thank you, HBO. Loved the segment focusing on Sandor, Beric and Thoros -- especially that scene when Thoros tries to help Sandor and shoulders his guilt. Was a great surprise seeing Jim Broadbent this first episode but a tremendous kind of easter egg. Looking forward to the second episode
The writers needed a way to show that Arya was going to King's Landing to kill Cersei and not Winterfell like we were all thinking, personally I enjoyed the scene, didn't really care that Ed Sheeran had cameo, it's not like he was dramatically acting. He sang a few lines and said a few words and that was it. Yall are just picky Edit: After watching episode 2, turns out she didn't know Jon was King of the North and she's now heading North. I was wrong but I think after the the reunion she's definitely gonna go back to Kings Landing and kill Cersei.
Judging by some of the clips in the preview for the next episode though, I think this scene will have changed her mind into going to Winterfell instead. There was a lot of talk of family and wanting to go home.
more like made her questioning stuffs, I still think she will head to King's Landing. She has to meet Cersei first, kill her or not, before she decides to reunite with her family.
I think this scene and the fact that she reunites with Nymeria in the next episode (based on the preview) is what actually makes her change her mind and go back to Winterfell. I'm sure later in the season she'll address killing Cersei again, but this scene was meant to help Arya realize she needs to go home first before continuing on her list.
Arya doesn't know that Sansa is still alive and at winterfell , just as she kills the Freys she says that she is the last wolf, I don't think she knows about whats happening in the North
Scene pissed me off. Took me right out of the show. And the way they set up every shot so that Ed's huge noggin was in it... Whole scene was a throwaway and added nothing to the story. Hope we don't see any more of these bullshit cameos. They are uninteresting and do nothing but jar the viewer out of the story.
gnilttbs The song dose not fit the rest of the show but it dose fit the sceen... Thous guys wher basically "every day" peaple in the army. They wher in a camp singing eating and joking around like we would and had 0% of bad intentions. It was ment to show Arya that not all of peaple on the lanister side are bad guys. P.S. And that is a song made by George RR Martin.
yeah, because some random actor would not be trying to sell me his music I dont want a commercial in the middle of my show, especialy not one so hamfisted in
Why did everyone criticize this scene? I actually liked it. For once, it didn’t show Westerosi soldiers acting like violent, psychopathic rapist killers.
I think the main reason is that it broke the flow of the show by taking you out of the GoT world, and so the viewing experience wasn't as immersive. I felt like that too because the cameo wasn't subtle at all. I'm personally not upset, but I just reckon they could have done without it :)
but at the same time, no actors of the show are in the westeros universe they also live on earth where you see them in heaps of other cringey corny hollywood movies. it was good to see sheeran in this.
Maershkin Schrabs But they are dressed as such characters unlike Ed Sheeran who not only can't act for a penny but also hasn't done so before and therefore can only be connected to Ed Sheeran and not a shitty wannabe GoT character. You know, a character is A character for the sake of disconnecting the real actor behind them. That's what acting in this series is about since its picturing a far different world than ours.
Kalethekill I had no idea who he was, and the scene felt very fitting for Arya. It was nice to see her meet some people her own age again and be young just a little longer. As for Ed Sheeran, he didn't stand out to me at all. His performance felt believable. He was just kinda laid back, a little drunk and pretending to be casual with a the first girl he's seen in awhile sitting beside him.
For me this scene shows that every side of the war there is always a good part/side, even if it's a bad/evil side. This scene reminds me of the footage of WW2 German soldiers playing snowball fights and having good old fun. Like children. And the event of the "XMas Ceasefire" in on one of the two World War (I can't remember much, I'm afraid). This scene, just like that footage and the Ceasefire, made me smile.
WW1, December 1914. I believe the following Christmas there were plans to stop any such event including shelling it if it occurred. IIRC, there were only a few very minor attempts at gatherings as a result.
She had intentions to kill them, or rob them but she saw they where just boys dragged into a war …. They probably where the first soldiers I saw that where they seemed pure and that’s so rare in GOT😭
If you put behind the idea of this just being a cameo, it's actually a great scene that I think is pivotal to Arya's Character development. At this point he's playing a part like any other actor beyond any simple cameo.
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ed sheeran will appear in the next episode singing to Bran Stark "when your legs don't work like they used to before"
*slow clap*
Soufienne Ghribi you win life 😂😂😂😂
Soufienne Ghribi lol
And darling I, will Hold the Door, even if you don't warg me
hahaha
the club isn't the best place to find a lover so the forest is where I go
shaurya singh me and my friends by the fire drinking fast abd then we talk slow
no
Girl you know I want your love
Your love is hand made for some
Lanister like me...
shaurya singh *He lookin for some slippy sloppy with the Stark girls*
9Gag scrub :/
"My mother always told me to be kind to strangers and strangers will be kind to you."
I'm pretty sure that saved all their lives just then.
Don Santiago Ramon Cajal Arya has no problem with killing people she doesn't like
Don Santiago Ramon Cajal he was just kidding , it was funny, you don't have to take the show so seriously
Arya wouldn't stand a chance.
A girl was about to add some more faces to her collection 😂
Arya couldve killed all of them did you not see her training?
I loved how they showed normal Lannister soldiers, just like the northern men, they are just poor boys pulled away from their life for a stupid war. I think this was the best scene in the episode!
You know who else was dragged into the war because of their fathers and liege lords? The Freys
Not all of them were present for the wedding and are evil, but it didn't stop Arya for killing them all
Jernej Fric actually they were all present when the massacre happened at the red wedding
Jernej Fric yeah Ella is right, the only ones there were the bad guys
It was probably the worst scene in the episode, like why the fuck is ed sheeran popping up for and plus having tommy turgoose in the scene makes in 3x worse
spencerchef I personally think the white walker scene was the best
I love how it's not even the character's name... it's just ed sheeran
Daniel Maguire it's a cameo and they didn't say his character's name
ankith m still.. he should be something like "soldier #2"
Daniel Maguire that's because you won't be seeing him again
Maybe that is his character's name haha
Daniel Maguire all we know is he is a lannister
That man looks exactly like Ed Sheeran
Mauricio Robles I thought so too
The resemblance is uncanny.
It's Ron Weasley though.
I'm LordOfTheChin lol
it's ed sheeran
Yes, I just can't put my finger on it? Maybe it's one of those scummy look alike scammers.
This one scene really shows the humanity of the series and of life itself. That most soldiers don't want war, they want peace and to be with their families. I wish there was more of this in the series.
plus it might help in aria deciding to go back home instead of down south, as we saw her on promo pictures where its snowing.
MrTreebeard420 It did!!😍
Fire and blood is all that matters
In the series? I wish there was more like this in real life...
Incredibly true man...
I really liked this scene. It was a nice little way to humanize the soldiers of Westeros. To show who the pawns were in the Game of Thrones.
AH! AH! He said it! He said it!
Agreed. Not ALL of the final 2 seasons were that bad.
It's so heavy handed though they repeat about 8 times things about what nice lovely chaps they all are.
The show originally stressed how horrible war was, how soliders did unspeakable things when ransacking a city or after plunder and treasure. The soliders were not Knights in shinning armour, the show was being honest and realistic about the kind of times it wanted to potray. Secondly the scene is largely spoilt by having a famous pop star in it which just feels like one of those moments in Batman the TV show where a famous guest star pops up for no real reason.
@@lw3646 Bro there was plenty of "heavy handed" moments in the show too. Sometimes it had to be. Heck half the exposition in the series was done through sex scene pillow talk lol. In the book you can humanize the average solider better. When household guards of the Starks die we have had little insights into who they were, so we feel sorry for Fat Tom when he dies. The show did almost none of this before this scene about who was actually doing the fighting. Even Jory's death didnt feel as heavy as it should have and did in the books.
The argument too that "well there was a famous pop star in it" like, ignore it lol. His character in the show was fine. Its not really that more distracting than "YARP" from Hot Fuzz being The Hound or anything similar. If he's acting was horrible you'd have an argument but i watched this with people who did not know who Ed Sheeran was and enjoyed the scene a lot.
worst p[art is that singer
Ed Sheeran is here to sing to Bran: When your legs don;t work as they used to before
CRYIIIING HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I see a potential lovestory incoming. :p
When english acent
my father told me this joke on my 1st birthday, I'm 200 years old now
Too soon.
Arya: "it's a pretty song. I've never heard it before"
Ed sheeran: " yeah it's the new one....off from my new album ÷....in the stores now!!".
Ultron X You know that's probably the plan...
Refreshing to see a normal group of soldiers who aren’t thieves bullies and rapist. Great especially since they’re Lannister soldiers it shows they’re normal people pulled into others wars
That’s because they are new and haven’t experienced war nor has the order been given to burn and pillage like the Lannisters did to the riverlands in the beginning
Arya's face when a soldier says, "my father would be alone and I ought to be with him", and when another says," Girls take care of their Papas when they grow old".
It's evident she thinks of Ned and how much she wishes he was alive.
This is a heartwarming moment for Arya, seeing genuinely good people after a long time. But it's also sad to know she neither has her loving father nor has seen her family in a long time.
Well done, Maisie!
It's sad that these soldiers were prolly massacred by Dany in the ending.
Ed had more lines in this episode than Tyrion.
He had more lines than Rickon in an entire season
Or Dany
Did Rickon even had a single line in the entire show?
john that just means Danarys is going to make huge moves!!! 'Member the end of season 3?!
AQ no only 7 more:/
Although some people don't like this scene it seems to be important. Arya noticed the Lannister soldiers and goes in with intentions to kill them, but then she notices they're some good chaps.
People seem really hung up on Ed Sheeran for some reason. Dude doesn't even say anything.
Purpose of this scene imho was to portray the human side of war. Especially since we've gotten a boat load of "ALL LANNISTERS ARE EVIL" recently. Personally I really liked this scene.
Luthies yeah if you would not know that was ed sheeran, most people would not care. I think this scene was made for arya to realise that not everyone with lannisters is bad.
AM The scene was paralleling walder frey, he killed people after giving them food. he killed his guest, if arya were to kill them she'd be no different from walder.Thats why this scene is important
aj j Exactly, guest rights are still invoked, thats why its a parallel. Shes not gonna kill them now shes shared bread with them. See what i mean?
AM They ruined the scene with this twat.
Arya is so associated with the stranger throughout the series that I can't help but think of the Lannister soldier offering kindness to a stranger (Arya) as him offering kindness to death, and perhaps in turn death will be kind to him on the battlefield, sparing him when next they meet.
Also, how does she always end up getting the best road food in the seven kingdoms?!
I really enjoy the bit where Arya questions the soldier about why he would prefer his newborn baby to be a girl. She wasn't raised observing the values of the small folk, but rather observing the nobility, their preference for sons and their dire need for heirs. It's probably quite the culture shock to her to imagine that someone would prefer to have a daughter.
thanks for writing this out and picking out so much . good insights.
Having a son is only beneficial if you’re rich, they can’t marry their way up the social hierarchy like a lot of prostitutes/concubines do.
Arya's laugh is so deceiving, I love it. I think she only laughs twice in the whole series.
Here and when she found out her aunt died hahaha. Just because she was giggling about Sandors plan failing
She laughs when she outplays bran at archery in the pilot episode
Not all Lannister soldiers are bad just like not all Stark soldiers are good.
Remember the episode with 3 Stark soldiers that Brienne killed because they murdered 3 innocent women?
Yeah... this scene didnt feel forced at all. Ed Sheeran took me out of the immersion and the scene did what intended, in 5 mins and in a cheesy manner. They should not have spent 5 minutes on almost nothing. My opinion but I got taken out of the show 100%.
Speaking of wasting time on nothing, Sam scenes of him cleaning bedpans out is 5 minutes of my life I will never get back haha
and raped.
Not all people are good. But not all people are bad either.
Thief
They were so nice... I wasn't expecting that
Ingrid Fenniman almost too nice. Is that even possible?
Ingrid Fenniman They'll probably die fighting for Cersei which is tragic
Ingrid Fenniman, it's almost like they're fighting someone else's war and don't stand for the same values as the family they serve
I think they did this to humanize the Lanisters and remind us that these guys are forced to fight... there is no ifs or buts about it
Well like a wise man once said, "There's good and evil on both sides" Soldiers are like anyone, some are nice and some are not. Seems like Arya bumped into the nice bunch this time.
The fact that the random soldiers that Arya's having this tender moment with are all Lannisters just adds to how great this scene is. We see the humanity of the side that have been the villains from the start.
The great thing about GoT is that you can't really pigeonhole one side as "villains". If this show started off with the Lannister family instead of Starks, we'd be rooting for them instead. Or if you only read/watch from Daenerys' perspective, Baratheons & Starks are the evil ones too.
That's the beauty of GoT, everyone's the hero in their own eyes.
I remember hearing that Ed Sheeran was going to be on the show. I was like, "Okay, that's cool, I guess... I mean, I don't really know too much about him."
Then time goes by, I forget about it, and I watch the episode. I observe Arya interacting with Lannister soldiers and notice that she is beginning to see them not as targets but as humans. This reminded me of the Lady Crane arc from last season.
After the episode, people begin talking about Ed Sheeran again. At which point I think, "Oh, that was his scene?" Then people begin acting like the scene was out of place. I personally hadn't gotten that impression.
I have seen comments like "This was the worst scene" or "Why didn't Arya kill them? She's getting weak... the show is ruined," etc. Personally, however, I enjoyed the scene. My greatest fear for Arya has always been that she will lose herself and become a bloodthirsty killer with no remorse. I have always believed her to have a compassionate heart alongside her fierce vengeful spirit. Compassion is not weakness. Arya's first scene in this episode primarily demonstrated the latter, while this second scene primarily demonstrated the former.
The men of House Frey were directly responsible for the Red Wedding, and thus winter came for them all. There is nothing to suggest, however, that these Lannister soldiers had any part in the death of a Stark.
The women of House Frey were spared as they were not responsible for the Red Wedding. Cersei Lannister is very clearly still on the list for all she has done to the Starks.
So no, Arya has not gone weak. Neither is Jon for calling upon Ned Umber and Alys Karstark for fidelity rather than banishing them from their castles for the sins of their fathers.
They are picking their battles and realizing who their enemies really are.
Here endeth the lesson.
MoronaNamchawt THANK YOU
AGREED! plus on Arya getting weak, we just saw her murder a whole damn house ffs
MoronaNamchawt I really hoped that arya would not kill the soldiers. It would had been so stupid if she had killed them after hearing their stories
I second this.
MoronaNamchawt i agree 100%. When i see ed sheeran i thought that guys looks familiar
that's NOT Ed Sheeran, it's Jaqen H'ghar disguised as Ed Sheeran.
Jaqen's face changing skills are so advanced, he can take on faces from different dimensions.
Broo you just made me crack up af
3:28 That face, "you guys are so dead." 😂
at least leave ed
Blitzkrieg no. Kill them all!! Hehe
My favorite scene. I feared that Arya would lose her soul with all the killing and murder. The Frey's deserved their lot, but in this scene, Arya sees the humanity in her enemies, and that they all aren't evil. This is a crucial lesson for her to learn going forward, and to focus her wrath on those who truly deserve it. And it was nice to see Arya truly laugh!!
good analysis of this scene.
Really enjoyed this scene. Not only did it show humanity in Arya but it showed humanity in Lannister soldiers. Some people are just following orders and not bad at all.
He should have cameoed with the hound and sing "I see fire" when hound looks into the flames.
Or with Bran and sing "When your legs to work like they used to before."
x_caster lmao
I feel like even that would have been less in-yo-face than what went on here.
High Definition Apollo oh my god XD
High Definition Apollo "It's Gingers I hate!"
This was an interesting scene, it shows the viewers that not all the Lannister foot soldiers are total a-holes.
doommaster677 did you think they were?
doommaster677 too bad they will all like be burned alive by the dragons or their own wildfire knowing Cersei
we don't know if they're good or not. Maybe they will betray Arya in the next episode
Only took 6 seasons...
They wont be burned by cersei, she doesnt kill her own men
Daenerys though
Arya: "Hey, where are you headed?"
Ed: "Over the castle on the hill."
1:39 Arya looks so shocked when she realises a Lannister soldier is actually nice to her for a change
The earth isn´t the best place to find love so Westeros is where I go! "Ed Sheeran"
Carlos Gibbs 😂😂😂😂
mhhmhmmmm
Haahahah
Those people were so kind and good-natured....
I give them one more episode to live!
Daenerys already burned them
@@thenotorious844no those lads were dispatched as peacekeepers to the twins and river lands. They wouldnt have been hundreds of miles from th reach where denerys ambushed the lanister/tarly column.
I really loved this scene. Not just because of Ed, but because of the other characters. They were all so warm and kind. That's become so RARE in GoT. It really brought out the fact that there is definitely some good left in Westeros, all over. You could always find someone who would be kind to you. Whether they were common people, lords or soldiers
While everyone's talking about Ed Sheeran. The most emotional scene that got me here is the one Lannister Soldier that mentions that his wife just had a baby and hopes it's a girl because daughters take care of their dads when they grow old, meanwhile sons have to fight their father's wars and the worst part is they don't know why. Arya looks so sad at that prospect because her dad's dead, also shows Ned always tried to suit his children's best interests at heart and look what Robb did; fought his father's wars and lost. I think for Arya in this scene she realized not all Lannister soldiers are evil, they're just simple men that are fighting someone else's war, they just want to go back to their families.
Me while watching: "What a nice voice!" "I wonder who this person is?"
"Shit! It's Ed-fucking-Sheeran" 😂
Rebeis Yrahcaz same, exactly like that, can't believe I didn't recognise his voice
Rebeis Yrahcaz same reaction 😂😂
Rebeis Yrahcaz I was annoyed soon as I heard it because I knew exactly who it was
Rebeis Yrahcaz that was exactly meeee
Same hahahahaha
_"Well, Mother always told me to be kind to strangers. Strangers will be kind to you."_
Got it? *Arya is The Stranger of the Seven now. Arya is Death.* She showed them mercy here. Lady Crane will be so proud.
Seetha Golden I think I remember a picture of him on set fighting when it has been revealed he'll be on the show, so we don't quite know yet if the boys will make it out of the forest alive :D
Good one! I really thought the look in the eyes of Arya after that sentence was because she remembered Catelyn! But now that you wrote this I'm speechless!
The scene was a little too peaceful and pleasant. I imagine something will go wrong and Arya will have to kill those soldiers on the next episode.
Seetha Golden and the way Arya looked at the weapons...
So far the faith of the seven is shown as a false religion as it doesn't have any physical evidence, unlike the Red God, the drowned God, the many faced God etc who all have physical evidences.
But in a classic GRRM twist, it might be revealed in the end that it is the faith of the seven which is the one true religion and the others faiths are just a bunch of blood magic rituals and trickery.
The seven Gods have reincarnated in the form of humans, like Jon, Sansa, Arya, Melisandre, Jaime etc to defeat the white walkers.
So even though it is ridiculed as a fake religion, in the end it will be revealed to be the true religion.
This is something I expect GRRM to come up with.
Season 7 Kill-Count:
Jon Snow - 0
Daenerys - 0
Dragons - 0
White Walkers - 0
Cersei - 0
The Mountain - 0
Arya Stark - 50+
Cr. Anup Sv
Daenerys laughing in Season 8
His mom was right, the fact they were kind to her stopped her from unleashing her wrath. Great scene.
I love the detail of her only taking food from them after they show they're not bad people and she decides not to kill them. Arya takes guest right seriously.
I like this scene because it shows us that the common folk on either side of the war aren't evil, they have their own lives and families. Arya, and the watcher, is weary to trust the Lannister soldiers but they are simply following their lords and bear no ill will. Sheeran didn't break my immersion because his acting was decent but that might be because I don't follow him. Also it'd be interesting to see them killed by Nymeria and how Arya reacts to that.
His acting wasn't decent, he literally stared at Arya and it felt very forced since it was a cameo.
This scene is actually great. She hated Lannisters for so long she never realized many of their soldiers were just young men with lives and consciences. They were even singing a NEW song, not the same old Lannister theme that her brother heart upon his death.
This scene gives hope.
I think when she said "I'm going to kill the queen" and looked around to see their reactions she was just testing them and how they would react and she would then make a decision on wether to kill them or not
I love this scene. It shows the truth that for 99.9% of the people living in Westeros want peace and don't care about the plots of nobles. So often we see Lannister soilders and think they share the values of that family but the truth is they aren't, they're just normal people. I also love Arya in this scene because its the first time she's smiled and laughed since season 1. She's around good people and is able to be the old Arya again even if only for a moment.
I loved this scene. It showed Arya the humanity in Lannister soldiers. They aren't all horrible evil people. Just people, who happen to work for horrible evil people.
Are we just gonna ignore how adorable Maisie Williams laugh is?!
Unpopular, but I actually enjoyed this scene.
bittermelonleaf I really liked it. Not because of Ed, but to see another side of the Lannister soldiers
The scene was a nice way of contrasting the opening Frey scene. It shows that even though Arya has become a ruthless killer, she still has a human side. She wanted revenge and killed every male Frey, even those not involved in the red wedding. But she spares the Lannister soldiers because she sees them as normal people dragged into a war they wanted no part in.
That being said, I would have preferred if Ed Sheeran wasn't in the seen. He sticks out like a sore thumb and draws most of the audience's focus. It felt almost like a parody from an awards show.
"unpopular" ok snowflake xd
How is it unpopular
@@LWYRUP05 because of the terrible acting.
The look in Arya's eyes... This has tone the first time she laughed since Ned died in season 1 :)
no.. she also laughed when the hound and she was passing through the bloody gate and the guard told them that aunt lysa is dead.
"The club isn't the best place to find a lover so the forest is where I go".
OMG I'm dying right now😂
Me and my friends sat in front of camp fire and then we start to chatted
I always found it sweet what that soldier said about wanting a girl. Like he was basically saying she'll be expected to stay safe at home and not get caught up in a clash of kings like he did.
I don't know why so much hate in social media on this scene, or Ed. It's not about him. It's about common people fighting someone else's wars. Ser Jorah told Daenerys in season 1 "The common people pray for rain, healthy children, and a summer that never ends. It is no matter to them if the high lords play their game of thrones, so long as they are left in peace. They never are"
That what they showed us. common people desires
yeah sure, you're just horny for Ed.
I honestly don’t know who Ed Sheeran is or which one of the soldiers he depicted here. I appreciate the scene for what it is.
I loved this scene. It shows the suffering of all soldiers in all wars. They miss everything, They want to go home. They don't care about wars. They just want to live with their families in peace.
I had no fucking clue who he was and I thought nothing of it. He barely says a word. Kind of tense scene, I thought the Lannisters men were going to attack Arya. It was a good scene but it just goes to show that people will hate for any reason.
2008sALINAs It also showed that not all lannister soldiers are evil.
I'm still trying to figure out who he is
It was a good scene, but I think for a lot of the people the problem was that they didn't even try to make Ed Sheeran look like a GoT character, but instead had him be just Ed Sheeran. Hair style, body language, facial expression, all looked like he came straight out of a talk show and just put on a Lannister armor. It was very confusing and took you out of the moment. It was badly executed and the blame is naturally on the show creators, not Ed Sheeran.
2008sALINAs same here. I'd never heard of him and at work today others were saying "oh did you see Ed Sheeran on GOT" and I'm "Ed Who???"
And then it's Oh you know that song Galway Girl
Oh that's why - I always change the damn station when that comes on...
Ed Sheerans face is dumb and I hate looking at it
I personally loved this scene. Gave alot more humanity to the Lannister soldiers and shows they're not all pure evil.
I enjoyed this whole scene. Not because of Ed's presence or because of any value to the story...but rather because it was refreshing, for a moment, for a main character to encounter a group of people who weren't out to kill them or cause trouble. It was just a group of good hearted, decent lads who shared some food and wine with a girl traveling alone. Even tho mean hearted people are the key to any adventure story, as I said, it was kewl to see there are kind and friendly people there as well. Kinda makes the environment a little more believable.
I love this scene, it shows that the Lannister men aren't just bloodthirsty and greedy.
I liked this scene it prove that Lannister's army are not all bad guy it's a lot of peasants ppl who were force to fight in someone war.. the cameo was fun the song was good ppl need to stop being asshole and complain about it
did you think they were?
stfu i want to complain
Dupe sap Agree
You always have to expect a bunch of shitheads arguing about anything and anyone. Won't bother me tho.
Dupe sap Thats like every war ever. i bet alot of stark soldiers are rapists and murderers too.
The way Arya stops laughing and just looks around at them while smiling…
I came here because of ed Sheeran's Appearance in Red Notice.😁
What I really liked about this scene was Arya experiencing friendly "enemys" for the first time. Maybe she won't be such a cold killer anymore from now on that she knows that not every enemy soldier is a bad guy in general...
This scene makes my day. A cameo in the first episode, what a day
this was such a nice surprise, love Ed
all the side characters did a real good job of their lines
Ed Sheeran looks like that awkward guy that was just invited along because the real friends didn't want him to feel left out
So why did you exactly have to be an ass again?
micah bessolo because Ed sheeran 😂😂😂
Baron Anon ass was trying to be funny
Beautifully filmed first episode - thank you, HBO. Loved the segment focusing on Sandor, Beric and Thoros -- especially that scene when Thoros tries to help Sandor and shoulders his guilt. Was a great surprise seeing Jim Broadbent this first episode but a tremendous kind of easter egg. Looking forward to the second episode
I actually really enjoyed this scene, such a tender slice of life.
Ed Shereen's cameo was eons better than David Beckham's in King Arthur 🤣🤣🤣
Tormund + Brienne = Ed CONFIRMED
If you can get an Ed Sheeran cameo for Maisie Williams, you can get GRRM for the rest of us!
"I'm going to kill the Queen " 😂😂😂 awesome Arya ⚔️❄️🔥🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺 #WinterIsHere
One of my favorite scenes in the series, honestly
This scene was so heartwarming! Despite being Lannister soldiers, they still are human beings.
There are two kinds of people. Those who were annoyed by the fact that Ed Sheeran was in the scene, and those who have watched This Is England
Ximen Thanks.
Ximen Spot on hahaha
No idea what This Is England is ... didn't mind ed sheeran at all though. There are probably more types of people.
Yep, this comment was mainly to the people who have watched this is england
The guy who offered Arya wine is Shaun from This Is England
Apparently Ed Sheeran was at the battle against Dany's dragon, and came back to KIngs landing with horrific burns and no eyelids
I'm not crying....Just sayin..... This scene was really peaceful and heart warming... ahhhh
Next episode - Ed Sheeran becomes the Nights King.
The writers needed a way to show that Arya was going to King's Landing to kill Cersei and not Winterfell like we were all thinking, personally I enjoyed the scene, didn't really care that Ed Sheeran had cameo, it's not like he was dramatically acting. He sang a few lines and said a few words and that was it. Yall are just picky
Edit: After watching episode 2, turns out she didn't know Jon was King of the North and she's now heading North. I was wrong but I think after the the reunion she's definitely gonna go back to Kings Landing and kill Cersei.
Judging by some of the clips in the preview for the next episode though, I think this scene will have changed her mind into going to Winterfell instead. There was a lot of talk of family and wanting to go home.
more like made her questioning stuffs, I still think she will head to King's Landing. She has to meet Cersei first, kill her or not, before she decides to reunite with her family.
I think this scene and the fact that she reunites with Nymeria in the next episode (based on the preview) is what actually makes her change her mind and go back to Winterfell. I'm sure later in the season she'll address killing Cersei again, but this scene was meant to help Arya realize she needs to go home first before continuing on her list.
Arya doesn't know that Sansa is still alive and at winterfell , just as she kills the Freys she says that she is the last wolf, I don't think she knows about whats happening in the North
Scene pissed me off. Took me right out of the show. And the way they set up every shot so that Ed's huge noggin was in it... Whole scene was a throwaway and added nothing to the story. Hope we don't see any more of these bullshit cameos. They are uninteresting and do nothing but jar the viewer out of the story.
"Girls take care of their Papas when their Papas are old" If he knew who she was, he'd have not said that 😭😭😭😭
Oh Arya..
I remember watching the episode and then being wrenched straight out of the moment with a jarring cameo, set the tone for the rest of the series.
That man looks exactly like Kylo Ren
Shigeru Miyamoto Fuckin cameos. Ruining everything. /s
No, he looks exactly like serj tankian.
What the fucks a Sheeran?
Kiits the fucks a lommy
Some cunt.
It's this english thing that thinks it can sing
ManChild loool
CupcakeBunnie 1 it's a joke
I don't see the fucking problem with this scene. If that was literally some other guy other than Ed Sheeran, you wouldn't have said a damn thing.
gnilttbs The song dose not fit the rest of the show but it dose fit the sceen...
Thous guys wher basically "every day" peaple in the army. They wher in a camp singing eating and joking around like we would and had 0% of bad intentions. It was ment to show Arya that not all of peaple on the lanister side are bad guys.
P.S. And that is a song made by George RR Martin.
"If that was literally some other guy other than Ed Sheeran, you wouldn't have said a damn thing." That's exactly the point dude :P
yeah, because some random actor would not be trying to sell me his music
I dont want a commercial in the middle of my show, especialy not one so hamfisted in
Which is exactly the point...
Well, Ed Sheeran is actually also just some guy so get over it. Seriously, people and their hard ons for celebrities...
Why did everyone criticize this scene? I actually liked it. For once, it didn’t show Westerosi soldiers acting like violent, psychopathic rapist killers.
Arya: I'm going to kill the queen!
Friendly Lannister soldiers laugh.
Aryas thoughts: But no seriously. I'm going to kill the Queen!
I don't see why people got upset by this. I was a little confused seeing him there but it didn't ruin anything. It was just unexpected.
I think the main reason is that it broke the flow of the show by taking you out of the GoT world, and so the viewing experience wasn't as immersive. I felt like that too because the cameo wasn't subtle at all. I'm personally not upset, but I just reckon they could have done without it :)
but at the same time, no actors of the show are in the westeros universe they also live on earth where you see them in heaps of other cringey corny hollywood movies. it was good to see sheeran in this.
Maershkin Schrabs But they are dressed as such characters unlike Ed Sheeran who not only can't act for a penny but also hasn't done so before and therefore can only be connected to Ed Sheeran and not a shitty wannabe GoT character. You know, a character is A character for the sake of disconnecting the real actor behind them. That's what acting in this series is about since its picturing a far different world than ours.
Sof S i personally enjoyed his cameo as the singing of the soldiers gave more life to the characters that would otherwise be bland and dull.
Kalethekill I had no idea who he was, and the scene felt very fitting for Arya. It was nice to see her meet some people her own age again and be young just a little longer.
As for Ed Sheeran, he didn't stand out to me at all. His performance felt believable. He was just kinda laid back, a little drunk and pretending to be casual with a the first girl he's seen in awhile sitting beside him.
One of the most wholesome scenes in the series.
Ed to Bran: "When your legs don't work like they used to before."
STOLEN.
3:20 Arya just has the cutest laugh! :D
Arya with the innocent evil laugh at the end
"I just think about my dad on his boat out there all alone."
Hahaha
Is that Gendry's boy? 🤘
a really good scene don't know why some hate it
Leave one wolf alive and the sheep are never safe..
I don't know who Ed Sheeran is. It was a nice scene.
Liene Narcis stop lying
I didn't know who he was before I watched this
TheBlue Sentinel you’re totally radical dude 🤙
I didn’t knew that this was ed sheeran until i saw the movie red notice 🤭😂😂
For me this scene shows that every side of the war there is always a good part/side, even if it's a bad/evil side. This scene reminds me of the footage of WW2 German soldiers playing snowball fights and having good old fun. Like children. And the event of the "XMas Ceasefire" in on one of the two World War (I can't remember much, I'm afraid). This scene, just like that footage and the Ceasefire, made me smile.
WW1, December 1914. I believe the following Christmas there were plans to stop any such event including shelling it if it occurred. IIRC, there were only a few very minor attempts at gatherings as a result.
Red notice 😂
She had intentions to kill them, or rob them but she saw they where just boys dragged into a war …. They probably where the first soldiers I saw that where they seemed pure and that’s so rare in GOT😭
How tf would she kill all those guys by herself?
@@fucka1386 she could have easily did it tbh how did she last so long with the night walkers 🤷🏽♀️
Thanks to Red Notice, I didn’t even know that Ed was even in Game of Thrones
How can someone dislike this scene ....
If you put behind the idea of this just being a cameo, it's actually a great scene that I think is pivotal to Arya's Character development. At this point he's playing a part like any other actor beyond any simple cameo.
He really is in Game of Thrones
I like how the official channel of the show didn't even try to hide how immersion-breaking this scene was. "Arya and Ed Sheeran"
Delicious hair guy: come on it’s gonna be a cold night...
Me: already in your cloak sir.