TLC is amazing. That's what people get from Shamanic rituals and laying on hands and praying over a person. They get a sense of love and acceptance and that is what heals them. Humans are very social, we get sick if we are isolated and we get better if other people show interest in our well being.
Belief or placebos are not trivial, we don't escape them by thinking were scientifically minded, thats a belief also. We each live in our own reality bubble and not by our mistaken belief but through novelty being built into the very fabric of nature/reality. Life appears to be fundamentally paradoxical, empirical and non empirical, particular and universal, one and many coexist.
Bruce Lipton calls placebos the perception effect. An Illusion can be described as 'something that is not how it appears to be', which probably actually includes much of Reality.... Necessary Illusions, Beneficial Illusions, Useful Illusions are categories of Illusions that are likely just part of the Fabric of Life. For example, Terrence Mckenna said "Words create a virtual reality in our minds", this seems empirically accurate, how is it squiggly lines create instant meaning?
I am thinking about the trust I feel when I visit my traditional doctor. I am also thinking about my work as a volunteer EMT. All this thinking in light of the forty or so minutes of this video and the pages of the book. More video to watch and more pages to read.
As a person with chronic pain from arthritis and in the face the 'opioid crisis', I have come to this conclusion. When the first primitive person chewed on a leaf, they were looking for relief from pain. From that time to this, not much has changed. There is simply no 'safe' and 'effective' relief for chronic pain. But maybe that is my NOcebo.
What doesn’t add up when the speaker says the man with the placebo surgery (mike) gets to enroll into subsequent Parkinson investigation, where as the non-placebo group (the other group) doesn’t. How does that make any sense?
There is no proof the things he asks the crowd about at the beginning of the video do anything beyond placebo. but placebos are used in good studies to find what the real effects of a drug are. But even so, both groups will have side effects because of "belief" or as he says is expectations. Then they are looked at statistically to tease out the actual effects attributed to the drug. (I am a retired pharmacist, if it doesn't show)
That’s a silly statement. What are you trying to say. I believe in many things. Am I desperate? Belief is how we function every day. Yes, some beliefs can be true, some can be false. It’s up to you to differentiate.
TLC is amazing. That's what people get from Shamanic rituals and laying on hands and praying over a person. They get a sense of love and acceptance and that is what heals them. Humans are very social, we get sick if we are isolated and we get better if other people show interest in our well being.
Belief or placebos are not trivial, we don't escape them by thinking were scientifically minded, thats a belief also. We each live in our own reality bubble and not by our mistaken belief but through novelty being built into the very fabric of nature/reality. Life appears to be fundamentally paradoxical, empirical and non empirical, particular and universal, one and many coexist.
Bruce Lipton calls placebos the perception effect. An Illusion can be described as 'something that is not how it appears to be', which probably actually includes much of Reality.... Necessary Illusions, Beneficial Illusions, Useful Illusions are categories of Illusions that are likely just part of the Fabric of Life. For example, Terrence Mckenna said "Words create a virtual reality in our minds", this seems empirically accurate, how is it squiggly lines create instant meaning?
I am thinking about the trust I feel when I visit my traditional doctor. I am also thinking about my work as a volunteer EMT. All this thinking in light of the forty or so minutes of this video and the pages of the book. More video to watch and more pages to read.
Very interesting. Thank you
I am so glad you mentioned the warning of treating actual cancer with placebo drugs (i.e. quack meds)
As a person with chronic pain from arthritis and in the face the 'opioid crisis', I have come to this conclusion. When the first primitive person chewed on a leaf, they were looking for relief from pain. From that time to this, not much has changed. There is simply no 'safe' and 'effective' relief for chronic pain. But maybe that is my NOcebo.
the only real question is how many guerrillas are there in this video
What doesn’t add up when the speaker says the man with the placebo surgery (mike) gets to enroll into subsequent Parkinson investigation, where as the non-placebo group (the other group) doesn’t. How does that make any sense?
I wrote an essay just for myself that was about the value of belonging to a religion even as an agnostic because of the value of the routine.
There is no proof the things he asks the crowd about at the beginning of the video do anything beyond placebo. but placebos are used in good studies to find what the real effects of a drug are. But even so, both groups will have side effects because of "belief" or as he says is expectations. Then they are looked at statistically to tease out the actual effects attributed to the drug. (I am a retired pharmacist, if it doesn't show)
when I take medication I don't feel it until it works...
Belief is an act of desperation
not really, belief is a good thing in certain situations.
That’s a silly statement. What are you trying to say. I believe in many things. Am I desperate? Belief is how we function every day. Yes, some beliefs can be true, some can be false. It’s up to you to differentiate.
Thats a belief