it's not about amazon, this is just an attack to amazon, it's the whole commerce that works this way, if we starts making everything ethical people couldn't even afford a rubber band.
If Bangladesh put start to regulate this factories they are going to leave the country and go to another country with cheaper labour.......and unemployment will rise in Bangladesh......it's just part of the game....
@Sherlock Holmes I think the solution is for regulation on both ends. As mentioned in the video, there are companies who would happily do more business if the workers were treated better.
growing population always creates the problem of employment. You can't sit idle and wait for a job that has a world class compliance coz those jobs are limited and there are too many people applying for it. plus you cant threaten to quit since there are others who are desperate enough to take your place and work in those poor conditions. Many of the western countries have gone through this phase and now its south Asia's turn.
ok. I don't know how you read my comment. but i feel you took it wrongly. I am talking of population growth. If you just do some fact finding then you will realise that every country be it west or east have or had a population "explosion" of sorts. the family were larger since the life expectancy and eventual survival was low due to poor health and medical setup. so it made sense to have more babies since hardly a few of them would make it to the adult hood. then as the access to better medicine and hygiene progressed the rate of deaths started to reduce in comparison to births. hence the rapid increase in population. but as the number of ppl increase due to better standards of living the cost of living increases. now there are more ppl but same amount of resources. Earlier the rate of death used to trim out the population but now that wasn't the case. so ppl start to have 1 or 2 babies so they can provide for a better living than what our earlier generations had. that way birth rate reduces and leads to a balancing of population. western countries have had that phase during the industrial revolution. now we in Asia are going through it.
There will be a new Bangladesh... Just wait & watch. But at first we need the rules & regulations to be applied properly.If the top of the chain is honest and accountable then the bottom has to be the same.The changes should come from the top.And give the respect to the hard working people who’re willing to take this kind risk and put them out there to support their families and survive.Be Respectful to everyone.
I'm from Bangladesh.Our economy depends on apparel.Our people risk their life for livelihood . To make livings we need to fight with strome, flood,building fire ,road accident .This kind of report would result in shutting down more factories.Tens of Thousands of workers would become jobless. That means no food no shelter for those families, no education for their children. Thus they would remained trapped inside the vicious cycle of proverty.
Ishaan Parikh,...When one's motivation is profit before everything, including safety, regulation is strongly resisted in the name of free market capitalism.
No it won't. Anybody who has a decent amount of money here in Bangladesh knows that garment industry is very profitable. They don't want to ensure safety only because it'll lessen their profits which is a lot....
This video names Amazon but this is a problem that has plagued the traditional retail industry for DECADES, this is absolutely nothing new. Growing up, we would learn about sweatshops in school or hear news about it, it is a widespread problem from pretty much every single seller of clothing, whether its sold through Amazon or not.
@@visheshgupta2793 lol small retailers? what about Macy's, TJ Maxx, H&M etc, all cut from the same cloth so to speak. Its nothing new that multinational, global brands outsource their cheap fashion from impoverished countries.
Rayquazados Nobody’s denying that the big retailers source from Bangladesh, Sri Lanka etc. But point is they have their quality controls and what the video is saying is the conditions aren’t as bad since a lot of the big players refrain from dealing with blacklisted entities. Amazon allows all kinds of small retailers as well which source from the worst maintained factories without any quality checks.
@@eugeniovincenzo1621 I subscribe to WSJ. The paper does many stories like this. But only on very rare occasions do they make a video of quality about the story such as this.
Consumers don't have much choice in the West since wage real wage growth has stalled since the late 1970s and most are living on consumer credit to make up the shortfall.
This is not new. Businesses will always cut corners somewhere to maintain profits. If they have to fix buildings or pay people a real salary then the clothes will be more expensive.
The report seems somewhat incomplete. Yes, Bangladesh has some very risky factories. But then again Bangladesh also has some very fine and world-class factories. there are 5000 garments in Bangladesh how can you tell that all Bangladeshi garments are treated their workers in the same way. don't judge it by one side . do more inspection more & more than publish another one which will be more clear.
You are saying as if a murderer said “what if I killed one person there are 7 billion people on the earth. Whats the big deal”.One right other wrong dont cancel out each other. The government must step in and ban those factories. #boycottmadeinbangladesh
You don’t care about the safety of your own people. They get paid so little, work in bad conditions, and get treated badly by managers. These reports will help them regain a new factory and meet standards. How hard is it maintain a safety building and treat your workers fairly. You are probably one of those that don’t like these investigation reporters. You or your family are part of garment factory business. You guys have too much loob (greed)...Kono Allah bhoi nai......That you don’t care about the conditions of your workers but to put money in your pockets. Do you have any sympathy for what happened with the building destruction of Rana Plaza.
The third party sellers are either their own companies or merchants buying from other companies and selling them on Amazon. An American company like Amazon obviously have no control over an independant company on a different country. It's the governments of the companies who have to take care of such situations.
I'm curious how easy it is for the third party sellers on Amazon to find out that the products they are buying from an importer or middleman is coming from one of these banned factories. It's easier for large retailers to black list these factories because they are buying direct from the manufacturers where as a small third party seller is buying from some middleman. They wouldn't have the same resources to verify the entire supply chain.
The tragedy of the people who died in that collapsed factory did not end there. Many of he workers were the sole breadwinners in the family, so you can imagine how those families are doing today. Thanks for bringing attention to this issue. Hopefully Amazon executives and J.Bezos will correct what is wrong with their system. I don't think they want to have their brand associated with another disaster like that.
Some of us know, but the main sheeple who just click buy now really don't. We thought Walmart was bad years ago. Amazon is literally like: hold my beer, I got this.
India 🇮🇳 will do anything to take this garments business away from Bangladesh 🇧🇩 being a Bangladeshi we all know how they have been treating us since our independence and they are not happy about our economy growth either.
"You are buying a product but you don't know how it was made. Behind this are so many moments of hard work, sorrows, memories involved. You like it, but to make this shirt, the worker might have pierced their hand with a needle. [...] A consumer never knows about such hidden stories. They order the product. They pay. The end." This is probably the most concise explanation of commodity fetishism I've heard. It's a problem that's not special or particular to Amazon, but rather, innately part of our economy. Yes, boycotting Amazon to pressure it into auditing its supply chain better is probably good, but purchasing will always be detached from the process of production. There will always be monstrous practices somewhere along that line, because everything a good is gets collapsed into a price. Maybe, if you're lucky, a fair trade or eco-friendly label as well. It's one of a million reasons why capitalism is horrible for humanity. We can do better. Check out The People's Republic of Walmart, which concisely explains how. (an interview with the author: ruclips.net/video/lM1Q34mLtBM/видео.html)
This is the entire clothing industry, not just Amazon. I can tell that competitors are just putting the blame on them to look good by comparison. So, how do we fix this problem? Stop buying clothes you don’t need. But also, don’t make too much money to feel the desire to purchase. So, basically, don’t sell your soul to live a life of luxury!
People need to work to live. Buyers need to increase prices so manufacturers can ensure proper safety and livelihood of workers. It's a fact that brands squeeze every cent out of the manufacturers.
Could this have something to do with the fact that one of WSJ's main competitors owned by a major shareholder of Amazon? This must have been going on for ages so why as WSJ noticed all of a sudden that Amazon buys from manufacturers with poor worker safety standards?
Good expose. But what happens to these workers and their families, when these factories are black listed and shut down? What is their alternative? Is WSJ helping with that? 1% risk of building falling on head, 100% risk of starvation…😢
The workers are not only placed in an unsafe environment at work. There is a huge problem with how the dyes and toxic chemicals are disposed of. They let them run into the rivers and tributaries. The population uses this same water to drink, bath, wash their clothing. Children are constantly plagued with skin and GI problems. The garment industry is making a mess of a country to save a few dollars for others pockets. Each one of those making these unsafe situations need to be made to live in there so they may see what they have sown.
It's a really Bad reporting against Bangladesh.In Bangladesh Doing Nothing is a curse rather than doing a job in hard condition. I ask WSJ make question to those buyer why they aren't paying extra pay for the products that factory owner and Govt. can ensure a safety conditions for workers. This report just humiliating Bangladesh and I strongly negative about this report!!!
You don’t care about the safety of your own people. They get paid so little, work in bad conditions, and get treated badly by managers. These reports will help them regain a new factory and meet standards. How hard is it maintain a safety building and treat your workers fairly. You are probably one of those that don’t like these investigation reporters. You or your family are part of garment factory business. You guys have too much loob (greed)...Kono Allah bhoi nai......That you don’t care about the conditions of your workers but to put money in your pockets. Do you have any sympathy for what happened with the building destruction of Rana Plaza.
Time for governments to start thinking about looking after people on more sides than their own. Why are companies still allowed to sell cheaply manufactured products which ultimnately intend to undermine the interests of everyone else?
I'm not sure what this is supposed to get us to do. Case 1) Amazon blacklist the factory -> This means everyone who was making a living just lost their job. Now they all have no money to survive, so they just suffer more. Case 2) Amazon funds the factory to keep the factory safe -> Do you really think the factories are going to use this money to fix the infrastructure? Would they be even in this situation if that was the case? Also, who do you think is going to fund this? You, the consumer? Willing to pay extra $5 to assume that it'll go to the right people Case 3) Amazon to shut down the clothing section ?? Oh not to worry Wall Street Journal will come up with another news article to hit next week. Ridiculous! And those who are complaining about their safety at work. Simple QUIT! Stop whining. Can't quit? Guess what, what if you get fired or laid off? Same deal no? You think this exposure is going to help fix the problem? No, it's all a bandage to a situation, until the government gets involved and proactively working towards a better cause there is nothing else to do. My 2cent
Also when amazon moves into Robotic labour to *save* these factor workers, Wall Street Journal will come with a new article: Amazon robotic taking over labour workers. God, it's a never-ending cycle.
Is it really amazons fault though? They just provide the platform for these sellers to operate. It’s like Facebook, they have no control of what users can post, yes they can filter out content but at the end of the day, they’re not liable for people’s wrong doing.
Yeah this is what I would argue on. People need to realize how impossible it is police the entirety of Amazons marketplace. You're asking Amazon to connect with every single seller and check where every single product is coming from on their marketplace. Honestly that right there is impossible.
All the cloth wearers out there sit with an accountant or a banker and calculate how your clothes you are wearing right now costs and how much you bought it and by that price how many can be payable to the workers.
Just more examples of things that should just make us feel bad...The true sign of how things aren’t going to change much...Very few people even knew about the factory collapse in 2013...Far fewer remember it now (I’m a news junkie and I didn’t)...I guess we deserve to feel depressed for awhile...
Why are they blaming foreign companies for giving clothing orders? If your factory collapsed- blame the management of the factory, not the companies which buy from you. If you own a lemonade stand and the stand suddenly collapses you wouldn't blame the people who buy lemonade.
Exactly. If people bother to read western histories, they'll realised that America and Europe was once like this and in some case, even worse conditions. What these 3rd world countries suffered is nothing new. Western countries have suffered the same.
I want to KNOW , how Quantum Computing will effect Data Center stocks , should I be buying or shorting ???? Are they on the path of VHS , FLOPPY DISC.?
I point out the WSJ journalist who made it that why didn’t you uncover how low payment they provide to Bangladeshis garment owners as they cannot pay their workers salary let alone others things.In Bangladesh, after Rana Plaza collapse, security and safety measures have been improved a lot.
Transfer then to factories in Southeast Asia - Vietnam, Thailand, Philippines or Indonesia. labor are cheap there and factories has way higher safety standards
Bangladeshi garments industry have improved lot and they make a huge investment to improve the safety measure and condition of the factory . Irony of the fact that Brands are not paying the price that should have to provide . Even, their price is lower than that of production cost.
Now all humans social problems is for Amazon. Countries problems is very complicated. They is a lot a local corruption stupid politician ect. You going to blame a 20 years company for 1000 year of incompetent government.
It's not even only Amazon's fault lol. The blame is shared by many parties here, including Bangladesh and the western consumers. What WSJ is doing is placing the responsibility on who's technically the "strongest" party. But that doesn't mean they are solely responsible for that, or even the main party to blame.
These people are doing amazing job! Overall majority factories there has good standard, except handful. A lot of people's lives depends on it. if the end users pay a little bit more, these people's life can be changed drastically.
shouldn't the countries governments where these factories are built be held responsible because they're the ones who are not regulating the construction
This is sort of a double edge sword we could continue to buy from these factories where people are working in inhumane conditions and they will still have a job and be able to barely survive, or we can entirely stop purchasing from factories like this putting them out of work and then they wont be able to feed their families and survive at all. I dont think either of the options I listed would be a good choice its really up to the country these shops are located in to step up and do something. America went through this phase in the late 1800s and early 1900s and the people stood up and said enough is enough. I would like to hear everyone's opiniond and ideas on how this could possibly be fixed, but lets keep it civil.
Its the same dilemma than with child labour. Now those workers don't know if they have a meal tomorrow - but if all this would be boycotted and banned, they know exactly that they won't have a meal tomorrow.
I see alot of people blaming china but this is not china false is the USA president Trump that want cheaper product better that quality one. Peace to everyone
@@MikeGlasses who said i learned this now?it was when the rana building collapsed."the problem with the world is intelligent people are full of doubt while stupid people are full of confidents"peace
US antitrust laws are currently based on a legal precedent meaning a company can't be broken up or fined for anti-competitive behaviour if they are also improving cost and customer satisfaction. Which they are, so as it stands this won't happen.
I say it's for the best, if the government can properly manage this, then Bangladesh may pull off a china type economic miracle and totally turn itself around. Short term suffering for long term payoff.
Why don't governments eg in Bangladesh, simply check and approve / condemn buildings in general? If a building is unsafe, the owner should not be allowed to rent it out. With many un-rentable thus useless buildings, eventually they'll be torn down and replaced by safety-compliant structures.
The history of exploitation to meet human desires and needs just keeps repeating like a vicious cycle. From Sierra Leone to China and now Bangladesh the human desire and needs sees no end. The cost however inhumane does not matter.
No matter what is exposed, people won't stop using it because of the convenience
it's not about amazon, this is just an attack to amazon, it's the whole commerce that works this way, if we starts making everything ethical people couldn't even afford a rubber band.
@@dom2555 that's the problem with capitalism, the work will move wherever labour is cheapest leaving people unemployed and no transferable skills
@@superfred and then the poor economy will grade up and will be someone else turn, that's how the wheel spin.
If Bangladesh put start to regulate this factories they are going to leave the country and go to another country with cheaper labour.......and unemployment will rise in Bangladesh......it's just part of the game....
@@dom2555 that would be better for humanity in the long run.
Fantastic investigative journalism. Everytime i wear a shirt from a country across the world i truly wonder how the workers are treated.
@Sherlock Holmes I think the solution is for regulation on both ends.
As mentioned in the video, there are companies who would happily do more business if the workers were treated better.
you don't Derek, stop lying
It's their countryman fault not amazon
Going through billion shipping records amazing work people
shilpa an eye opener
"Billion" its just a metaphor
Ctrl+F
@@ShortSidd
Basic arithmetic would tell you that Billion and International Trade go hand in hand.
WSJ always does an amazing job with these investigation videos
PngDotZip they 💕 money too
And their corporate brothers at Fox “news” undo it all.
growing population always creates the problem of employment. You can't sit idle and wait for a job that has a world class compliance coz those jobs are limited and there are too many people applying for it. plus you cant threaten to quit since there are others who are desperate enough to take your place and work in those poor conditions. Many of the western countries have gone through this phase and now its south Asia's turn.
ok. I don't know how you read my comment. but i feel you took it wrongly. I am talking of population growth. If you just do some fact finding then you will realise that every country be it west or east have or had a population "explosion" of sorts. the family were larger since the life expectancy and eventual survival was low due to poor health and medical setup. so it made sense to have more babies since hardly a few of them would make it to the adult hood. then as the access to better medicine and hygiene progressed the rate of deaths started to reduce in comparison to births. hence the rapid increase in population. but as the number of ppl increase due to better standards of living the cost of living increases. now there are more ppl but same amount of resources.
Earlier the rate of death used to trim out the population but now that wasn't the case. so ppl start to have 1 or 2 babies so they can provide for a better living than what our earlier generations had. that way birth rate reduces and leads to a balancing of population. western countries have had that phase during the industrial revolution. now we in Asia are going through it.
Like Gavin Belson of Silicon Valley TV Series says "if there is New China there is always Bangladesh not new Bangladesh "
Ya where is the talk of tariff against bandgladesh, cloth production used to be part of us economy too.
There will be a new Bangladesh...
Just wait & watch.
But at first we need the rules & regulations to be applied properly.If the top of the chain is honest and accountable then the bottom has to be the same.The changes should come from the top.And give the respect to the hard working people who’re willing to take this kind risk and put them out there to support their families and survive.Be Respectful to everyone.
That series is way too eye opening, I know it’s a parody of what the tech industry is but it’s only funny bc it’s true
I'm from Bangladesh.Our economy depends on apparel.Our people risk their life for livelihood . To make livings we need to fight with strome, flood,building fire ,road accident .This kind of report would result in shutting down more factories.Tens of Thousands of workers would become jobless. That means no food no shelter for those families, no education for their children. Thus they would remained trapped inside the vicious cycle of proverty.
Don't put ur all eggs in single basket.....
In last six months as many as 46 garment factories have shut down in the country. That has meant 25,000 or more workers losing their jobs.
m It’s not like America where you can apply to the nearest fast food chain & get a job. In most countries, jobs are scarce
Buying clothes from bangladesh is like wearing someone elses shroud.
Increasing standards does not have to mean layoffs
Won't banning the factories just increase unemployment and poverty. There should be a better solution
Ishaan Parikh,...When one's motivation is profit before everything, including safety, regulation is strongly resisted in the name of free market capitalism.
It does for temporarily but in long term , owners of the factory are forced to change because otherwise they will have to go broke
No it won't. Anybody who has a decent amount of money here in Bangladesh knows that garment industry is very profitable. They don't want to ensure safety only because it'll lessen their profits which is a lot....
America also went through this. Look up the triangle fire in New York.
@@marcelsilva7693 population control
That was 1911...this is now. We didn't have even a dream of the tech we have now. We have the ability to do better and we must.
Sherlock Holmes What do you mean sponsored? They’re just based in the US. That’s it. We don’t have state media here, or at least not yet.
This video names Amazon but this is a problem that has plagued the traditional retail industry for DECADES, this is absolutely nothing new. Growing up, we would learn about sweatshops in school or hear news about it, it is a widespread problem from pretty much every single seller of clothing, whether its sold through Amazon or not.
sweety, its an investigation ABOUT amazon. other reporters have examined er.. HM and zara. get a clue
That’s the whole point!!! Since, Amazon has gotten really big, now its being asked to comply. Nobody cares where small retailers source from.
@@visheshgupta2793 lol small retailers? what about Macy's, TJ Maxx, H&M etc, all cut from the same cloth so to speak. Its nothing new that multinational, global brands outsource their cheap fashion from impoverished countries.
Rayquazados Nobody’s denying that the big retailers source from Bangladesh, Sri Lanka etc. But point is they have their quality controls and what the video is saying is the conditions aren’t as bad since a lot of the big players refrain from dealing with blacklisted entities. Amazon allows all kinds of small retailers as well which source from the worst maintained factories without any quality checks.
*I literally just read this in the wall street journels news paper and now I'm seeing a video about it,💪🎭*
Did you buy the WSJ??? If so why is there value prop if you can see it online???
@@eugeniovincenzo1621 my miserly nature would not permit me to purchase such an item,
@@eugeniovincenzo1621 I subscribe to WSJ. The paper does many stories like this. But only on very rare occasions do they make a video of quality about the story such as this.
Buyer wants cheap products & also ensure safe environment for workers, is that a joke?
As long as consumers seek lower price, this will continue.
True
Agreed. Personally, if is this is to change, consumer has the ultimate power.
That is why I rarely buy clothing and if I do I will spend more for ethical clothing never on Amazon.
@@kazekai8 hand woven hemp.
Consumers don't have much choice in the West since wage real wage growth has stalled since the late 1970s and most are living on consumer credit to make up the shortfall.
4:34 why blur the label? I want to know which brands were there
Because it’s probably one of the acord signatory
They might get sued by the brand company.
6:56 This pic shows What Journalism is all about. Great work wallstreet Journal.
Amazon is becoming a greedy company.
Varun reddy no it doesn’t
Wall Street is bought by jeff bezoz
Who also own amazon
This is transparent journalism
Loved it
Is this the point where we say China's suicidal factory is at least better than a collapsing one?
This is not new. Businesses will always cut corners somewhere to maintain profits.
If they have to fix buildings or pay people a real salary then the clothes will be more expensive.
The report seems somewhat incomplete. Yes, Bangladesh has some very risky factories. But then again Bangladesh also has some very fine and world-class factories. there are 5000 garments in Bangladesh how can you tell that all Bangladeshi garments are treated their workers in the same way. don't judge it by one side . do more inspection more & more than publish another one which will be more clear.
You are saying as if a murderer said “what if I killed one person there are 7 billion people on the earth. Whats the big deal”.One right other wrong dont cancel out each other. The government must step in and ban those factories. #boycottmadeinbangladesh
@@FaizanAli-op2xe
Says a pakistani.
#StopmakingterroristsfromPakistan
You don’t care about the safety of your own people. They get paid so little, work in bad conditions, and get treated badly by managers. These reports will help them regain a new factory and meet standards. How hard is it maintain a safety building and treat your workers fairly. You are probably one of those that don’t like these investigation reporters. You or your family are part of garment factory business. You guys have too much loob (greed)...Kono Allah bhoi nai......That you don’t care about the conditions of your workers but to put money in your pockets. Do you have any sympathy for what happened with the building destruction of Rana Plaza.
Great work WSJ. We need people like you to keep us consumers informed. This is modern slavery.
The third party sellers are either their own companies or merchants buying from other companies and selling them on Amazon. An American company like Amazon obviously have no control over an independant company on a different country. It's the governments of the companies who have to take care of such situations.
The way automation and technology are going, this type of work won't even be needed in the near future.
Shutting the factory is not a good idea. You guys should work with the owners to improve the working condition.
mashallah, but these corp won't shell a dime when they have to post huge numbers for their share holder.s they don't give a toss
Big Companies looks gorgeous from outside but inside its Hollow.... Its with everyone
I'm curious how easy it is for the third party sellers on Amazon to find out that the products they are buying from an importer or middleman is coming from one of these banned factories. It's easier for large retailers to black list these factories because they are buying direct from the manufacturers where as a small third party seller is buying from some middleman. They wouldn't have the same resources to verify the entire supply chain.
Man! You guys are awesome! These investigations are insane.
The tragedy of the people who died in that collapsed factory did not end there. Many of he workers were the sole breadwinners in the family, so you can imagine how those families are doing today.
Thanks for bringing attention to this issue. Hopefully Amazon executives and J.Bezos will correct what is wrong with their system. I don't think they want to have their brand associated with another disaster like that.
Some of us know, but the main sheeple who just click buy now really don't.
We thought Walmart was bad years ago.
Amazon is literally like: hold my beer, I got this.
India 🇮🇳 will do anything to take this garments business away from Bangladesh 🇧🇩 being a Bangladeshi we all know how they have been treating us since our independence and they are not happy about our economy growth either.
I’ve been ripped off at amazon with so many bad products so many times, I don’t think I will ever buy anything there again.
@Joe Al Stick to, deeeez nutss
Excellent investigative work from WSJ. Please keep up the great work.
This is some quality reporting. I almost want to subscribe to the WSJ now.
"You are buying a product but you don't know how it was made. Behind this are so many moments of hard work, sorrows, memories involved. You like it, but to make this shirt, the worker might have pierced their hand with a needle. [...] A consumer never knows about such hidden stories. They order the product. They pay. The end."
This is probably the most concise explanation of commodity fetishism I've heard. It's a problem that's not special or particular to Amazon, but rather, innately part of our economy. Yes, boycotting Amazon to pressure it into auditing its supply chain better is probably good, but purchasing will always be detached from the process of production. There will always be monstrous practices somewhere along that line, because everything a good is gets collapsed into a price. Maybe, if you're lucky, a fair trade or eco-friendly label as well.
It's one of a million reasons why capitalism is horrible for humanity. We can do better. Check out The People's Republic of Walmart, which concisely explains how. (an interview with the author: ruclips.net/video/lM1Q34mLtBM/видео.html)
I wish this video is on the trending page so more people be inform about this issue
This is really nothing new and a lot of people already know about this
@@owen-nd7om people need to be reminded even if that's the case
How is this only related to Amazon? Pretty sure other retailers source from similar factories
"How to make $500 per day selling on Amazon"
Wow, I didn’t know Canadian Tire is a U.S brand...
In other words, these brands are having a stronger influence in workers safety than if left to their own governments.
Real reporting. Thank you.
It's not the fault of Amazon or any of these companies, the government of Bangladesh should make sure that law is implemented properly
This is the entire clothing industry, not just Amazon. I can tell that competitors are just putting the blame on them to look good by comparison.
So, how do we fix this problem? Stop buying clothes you don’t need. But also, don’t make too much money to feel the desire to purchase.
So, basically, don’t sell your soul to live a life of luxury!
ZBdude149 or just be educated about products you buy? Just a thought
I just came back from a developing country, it’s nice to tell people how it should be in our nice developed country but life isn’t so rosy
This really changes my perspective, amazing as usual WSJ
People need to work to live. Buyers need to increase prices so manufacturers can ensure proper safety and livelihood of workers. It's a fact that brands squeeze every cent out of the manufacturers.
thank you wsj for real journalism
That woman deserves an award
Watching this RUclips video on a Chinese made phone...
Nice to see people in the comments would rather have cheap stuff even if it is stained with poor people's bood.
The American Way!
Could this have something to do with the fact that one of WSJ's main competitors owned by a major shareholder of Amazon? This must have been going on for ages so why as WSJ noticed all of a sudden that Amazon buys from manufacturers with poor worker safety standards?
Fantastic journalism, I'm a Bangladeshi and I really want this situation to improve, even if we lose some revenue.
And thank you WSJ thinking about us but sadly our government,our garment factory owners Doesn't think this much 😔😔
Good expose. But what happens to these workers and their families, when these factories are black listed and shut down? What is their alternative? Is WSJ helping with that? 1% risk of building falling on head, 100% risk of starvation…😢
The workers are not only placed in an unsafe environment at work. There is a huge problem with how the dyes and toxic chemicals are disposed of. They let them run into the rivers and tributaries. The population uses this same water to drink, bath, wash their clothing. Children are constantly plagued with skin and GI problems. The garment industry is making a mess of a country to save a few dollars for others pockets. Each one of those making these unsafe situations need to be made to live in there so they may see what they have sown.
It’s all about greed if they can make an extra $100 dollars and screw the workers they will they do right in the homeland
Because before Amazon people never bought clothes or anything else.
It's a really Bad reporting against Bangladesh.In Bangladesh Doing Nothing is a curse rather than doing a job in hard condition. I ask WSJ make question to those buyer why they aren't paying extra pay for the products that factory owner and Govt. can ensure a safety conditions for workers. This report just humiliating Bangladesh and I strongly negative about this report!!!
You don’t care about the safety of your own people. They get paid so little, work in bad conditions, and get treated badly by managers. These reports will help them regain a new factory and meet standards. How hard is it maintain a safety building and treat your workers fairly. You are probably one of those that don’t like these investigation reporters. You or your family are part of garment factory business. You guys have too much loob (greed)...Kono Allah bhoi nai......That you don’t care about the conditions of your workers but to put money in your pockets. Do you have any sympathy for what happened with the building destruction of Rana Plaza.
People who see their rival company go down:STONKS
Also do this with every company
Why did that neck brace pop up out of nowhere when he wasnt wearing it before?
Same situation in India
How a factory could even collapse? It is hard to imagine... The quality of the factories is daunting....Those cracks are incredibly threatening!
I am SHOCKED, SHOCKED to learn that my products from Amazon were made unethically.
Blog of The W3st amazon is not the one that buys it is the seller
Time for governments to start thinking about looking after people on more sides than their own.
Why are companies still allowed to sell cheaply manufactured products which ultimnately intend to undermine the interests of everyone else?
That is why I hate fast fashion. Fast fashion is unsustainable.
Also most fast fashion clothes use synthetic fibers.
I'm not sure what this is supposed to get us to do.
Case 1) Amazon blacklist the factory -> This means everyone who was making a living just lost their job. Now they all have no money to survive, so they just suffer more.
Case 2) Amazon funds the factory to keep the factory safe -> Do you really think the factories are going to use this money to fix the infrastructure? Would they be even in this situation if that was the case? Also, who do you think is going to fund this? You, the consumer? Willing to pay extra $5 to assume that it'll go to the right people
Case 3) Amazon to shut down the clothing section ?? Oh not to worry Wall Street Journal will come up with another news article to hit next week.
Ridiculous! And those who are complaining about their safety at work. Simple QUIT! Stop whining. Can't quit? Guess what, what if you get fired or laid off? Same deal no?
You think this exposure is going to help fix the problem? No, it's all a bandage to a situation, until the government gets involved and proactively working towards a better cause there is nothing else to do.
My 2cent
Also when amazon moves into Robotic labour to *save* these factor workers, Wall Street Journal will come with a new article: Amazon robotic taking over labour workers. God, it's a never-ending cycle.
Is it really amazons fault though? They just provide the platform for these sellers to operate.
It’s like Facebook, they have no control of what users can post, yes they can filter out content but at the end of the day, they’re not liable for people’s wrong doing.
Yeah this is what I would argue on. People need to realize how impossible it is police the entirety of Amazons marketplace. You're asking Amazon to connect with every single seller and check where every single product is coming from on their marketplace. Honestly that right there is impossible.
Amazone is platform. That is just it.
All the cloth wearers out there sit with an accountant or a banker and calculate how your clothes you are wearing right now costs and how much you bought it and by that price how many can be payable to the workers.
Just more examples of things that should just make us feel bad...The true sign of how things aren’t going to change much...Very few people even knew about the factory collapse in 2013...Far fewer remember it now (I’m a news junkie and I didn’t)...I guess we deserve to feel depressed for awhile...
Why are they blaming foreign companies for giving clothing orders?
If your factory collapsed- blame the management of the factory, not the companies which buy from you.
If you own a lemonade stand and the stand suddenly collapses you wouldn't blame the people who buy lemonade.
Once Americans and Europeans used to work like this.
Exactly.
If people bother to read western histories, they'll realised that America and Europe was once like this and in some case, even worse conditions.
What these 3rd world countries suffered is nothing new. Western countries have suffered the same.
All about the cheapest price for consumers to buy.. . PERIOD!!
I want to KNOW , how Quantum Computing will effect Data Center stocks , should I be buying or shorting ???? Are they on the path of VHS , FLOPPY DISC.?
I point out the WSJ journalist who made it that why didn’t you uncover how low payment they provide to Bangladeshis garment owners as they cannot pay their workers salary let alone others things.In Bangladesh, after Rana Plaza collapse, security and safety measures have been improved a lot.
Transfer then to factories in Southeast Asia - Vietnam, Thailand, Philippines or Indonesia. labor are cheap there and factories has way higher safety standards
Bangladeshi garments industry have improved lot and they make a huge investment to improve the safety measure and condition of the factory . Irony of the fact that Brands are not paying the price that should have to provide . Even, their price is lower than that of production cost.
WSJ to Jeff Bezoz
"I'm about to end this man's whole career"
Now all humans social problems is for Amazon.
Countries problems is very complicated. They is a lot a local corruption stupid politician ect.
You going to blame a 20 years company for 1000 year of incompetent government.
Jeff bezoz to Donald trump
" donald could you please nuke that fool in charge of wsj, here is a bag of cash for you"
It's not even only Amazon's fault lol. The blame is shared by many parties here, including Bangladesh and the western consumers. What WSJ is doing is placing the responsibility on who's technically the "strongest" party. But that doesn't mean they are solely responsible for that, or even the main party to blame.
After living in india such substandards regarding working conditions become conspicuously apparent in every industry.
Why only Bangladesh factory, Accord need to check all factory of India, China, Vietnam. They have worst factory then Bangladesh.
These people are doing amazing job! Overall majority factories there has good standard, except handful. A lot of people's lives depends on it. if the end users pay a little bit more, these people's life can be changed drastically.
shouldn't the countries governments where these factories are built be held responsible because they're the ones who are not regulating the construction
This is sort of a double edge sword we could continue to buy from these factories where people are working in inhumane conditions and they will still have a job and be able to barely survive, or we can entirely stop purchasing from factories like this putting them out of work and then they wont be able to feed their families and survive at all. I dont think either of the options I listed would be a good choice its really up to the country these shops are located in to step up and do something. America went through this phase in the late 1800s and early 1900s and the people stood up and said enough is enough.
I would like to hear everyone's opiniond and ideas on how this could possibly be fixed, but lets keep it civil.
Great effort. Incredible analysis.
Bezos vs Murdoch!!
"the financial aspect of compliance is pretty heavy..." (10:18) And there you have it. Profits over people.
Its the same dilemma than with child labour. Now those workers don't know if they have a meal tomorrow - but if all this would be boycotted and banned, they know exactly that they won't have a meal tomorrow.
After doing such hard work, if they don't get recognition..... It's the worst feeling for any talented individual.
faster deliveries can only mean amazon sellers sourcing from unsafe factories
Who is the blame only buyer who like to purchase cheap, if they don’t purchase cheap this will change.
I see alot of people blaming china but this is not china false is the USA president Trump that want cheaper product better that quality one. Peace to everyone
Amazon is more likely to devlop robots and remove hans from garment industry rather than tacking care of supply chain..
"But you do not know how it was made"I decided to buy fewer clothes
I'm totally OK with this as long as I get my clothing cheap!
that incident was an eye opening to me and perhaps a lot of people.i then there decided not to wear branded clothes
jiwan Gurung you really are just now learning about this? Are you stupid
@@MikeGlasses who said i learned this now?it was when the rana building collapsed."the problem with the world is intelligent people are full of doubt while stupid people are full of confidents"peace
Amazon should be broken up under US Antitrust law.
US antitrust laws are currently based on a legal precedent meaning a company can't be broken up or fined for anti-competitive behaviour if they are also improving cost and customer satisfaction. Which they are, so as it stands this won't happen.
nonsense.
I say it's for the best, if the government can properly manage this, then Bangladesh may pull off a china type economic miracle and totally turn itself around. Short term suffering for long term payoff.
Why don't governments eg in Bangladesh, simply check and approve / condemn buildings in general? If a building is unsafe, the owner should not be allowed to rent it out. With many un-rentable thus useless buildings, eventually they'll be torn down and replaced by safety-compliant structures.
There are no such thing like a multimillion dollar companies with ethics.
well... if you expect cheap prices the cost cutting comes from here. Economies of scale can only go so far.
"Like these US brands"
Canadian tire
The history of exploitation to meet human desires and needs just keeps repeating like a vicious cycle. From Sierra Leone to China and now Bangladesh the human desire and needs sees no end. The cost however inhumane does not matter.