There’s a comedian called Josh Johnson who once said, “Be careful with the people who want fame, and the people who want power, because they are usually the same person.”
I used to know Josh Johnson, he lived in Chicago at the time and the few times I tried standup I did some open mics with him. Very cool guy and was exciting seeing him be one successful.
My only disappointment is how long it took, and that everyone who called this years ago is still going to be ignored the next time it happens with the next "big name"
@kevinmorrice same lol. I do think nice ppl who donate lots exist out of youtube (because they do) but I have never known a person who records themselves giving stuff away constantly who had good intentions. My first ick was seeing him record himself being a "good guy".... I don't get it, usually ppl r more open to realising it but it's been years and no one can see that it's not normal and evidently fake
Never liked Mr Beast myself but I could never pin point a specific reason, and if you even tried you’d be met with a hoard of defenders… glad to know I was right lol
The most outrageous scheme by Mr. Beast: 1. When the impoverished guy 'won' one million dollars. 2. However, he needed to spend it in 24 hours. 3. This did not improve his situation 4. And fed into the perils of capitalism. 5. Just made the message worse.
@BasedinReality1984 I number each thought. Explanations of each thought, follow the thought; are not numbered separately. I think in business presentations. 🤔
People fail to realize that this guy has to give away money to get money. He’s not doing this cause he has a good heart but he does it for the clicks and views. Wake up people!
the problem is that these people will just handwave it all away because "charity". and then they will ask you "how many people have you cured blindness for????"
It's an investment... A really good one. But, he failed to step on the breaks and walk away once his investment already peaked. He just went and floored the gas and is now crashed thru the rails and falling off a cliff.
Here's the thing for me about Mr. Beast. I'm 33, I've never seen a single one of his videos, and I was SHOCKED to recently learn how popular he is. Any time I saw a photo of him, I always assumed he was some industry creation. He is so dead. behind the eyes. No spark. No point of view. Nothing. Even Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk aren't that vacant. What audience is watching this empty shell????
God mr.beast creeps me out lol. He reminds me of that Christian Bale quote about Tom cruise: “Tom Cruise on Letterman had this very intense friendliness with nothing behind the eyes.”
It's funny because everyone agreed the homeless content vitaly and fousey were doing back in the day were shitty because they're using vulnerable people for content. Mr beast did the same thing just on a bigger scale
ive seen some shorts regarding this whole scandal and people are so hyperfixated on the fact that mrbeast fakes his videos, that they completely overlook the actual bigger problem with mrbeast.
With bigger problems do you mean things like the reports that participants aren't treated well? My impression is that working conditions seem to be a general problem. Recently two big German youtubers got sdome backlash, Anni the duck and Unge as being manipulative and exploiting the people around them (to simplify). One point about Anni were long work days.
Most top replies are things like “Sunny V2 was right, Tyson did cause his downfall”. This ‘cancellation’ has nothing to do with leftist critiques and “charity” content will probably keep getting more popular lol
@@jochenkraus7016 Long, poor, work conditions, fake giveaways that cross the line into fake lotteries, more general fraud with things like claming things are signed when they're not, putting people in danger, ignoring safety concerns, knowingly working with someone being actively predatory, and there's probably more I missed.
I am here for the Mr. Beast slander. From the mouth wide open thumbnails to the ADHD inducing style of editing to his misunderstanding of the point of squid games his content has always been weirdly off putting to me
I missed the misunderstanding of squid games but yeah those other things were what made me never watch him, and it found it really weird how everyone else seemed to completely overlook it and be completely fine with it
@@tzargthe whole point of squid game is pointing out just how far people would go for money. It's a critique on how easy it is for people to dehumanize each other for the sake of money and power and how those in control of the situation are monsters that find amusement in watching those who are desperate crawl in the mud for scraps. Then Mr beast goes "hey lets make a gameshow based off that and market it to kids."
@@Blox117 It was never authentic. He was always just trying to get rich. People like this always operate this way. A lot of people who do really big attention grabbing things turn out to be dangerous. There was another really famous Jimmy who had a lot of kids as fans in the UK.
You can search the professions with the most psychopaths. Media/TV, journalism and also CEOs are the professions that are all in the top 10. CEOs are the number 1. So the theory of Kavernacle is based on facts. But I dont think he knows this study.
As someone who’s a bit of a workaholic myself, Jimmy’s “entrepreneurial streak” sounds incredibly destructive both to himself and the people around him. This capitalist hell machine we live in convinces us that we need to constantly be working and pushing ourselves (I fell for this too, even as a leftist), but look at the person Jimmy became. He has his little empire, but he has no clue how to run it, and on top of that, is a sadistic corpo weirdo who gets off on turning the people he “helps” into billboards for his brand. Watching his downfall has made me reevaluate my own relationship with work, because damn, did he ever get lost in the sauce.
Mr beast is sort of the perfect person to fall into that kind of behavior but really it could be anyone. The platforms just create systems that encourage that sort of behavior (as dies capitalism itself of course but Social media is just the wild west ATM)
Lol you obviously don't know much about capitalism you must be a child. Capitalism means social cooperation. On one end of the scale you have capitalism and freedom and when you move the other way you have communism and socialism and fascism.
Maybe I'm being too harsh here, but as a former military brat myself, MrBeast having au pairs and going to private school (along with his brother) is not a "harsh upbringing." Regardless of whatever social and emotional challenges faced, financially speaking, his upbringing was far more stable than that of other military brats, or even most children in the US. Even though that wealth doesn't constitute a "rich" upbringing and is minimal compared to where he is now, he grew up in a very white, sheltered, protected and paid for life in the Bible belt of America.
@@solarydaysit’s the hustle myth that every successful person has to clothe themselves in to imply that they earned what they have. It’s almost always completely made up.
This is what I've been saying to everyone. The 10k video is the start of his manipulative charitable behaviour Power and money exposes who you really are as a human.
As someone who stumbled into RUclips several years into my legal career, without ever having really thought it possible... I related heavily to this video lol
@@D.N521I always noticed that too but ignored it since he wastes so much money helping people I just thought it wasn’t anything. Guess we were both right all along 😭😅
you can usually tell a genuine smile by the wrinkles forming around the eyes. It‘s said to be a really good indicator for judging if a smile is forced or fake. You can pretty much pause anytime Mr Beast gives a smile and cover his mouth to only look at the eye region and you‘ll see no laugh lines (haven‘t watched any of his content just seen him here and there and it‘s veeeery obvious) You often see this behaviour when people fake smile for a (family) photograph or with politicians. I think it‘s pretty common knowledge amongst body language experts. So your instincts were right on the money ;)
I was a Tumblr girly, and i remember the blog 'all your faves are problematic', and it really helped me at a crucial age to understand maybe a bit more nuance around situations.
Also, I can check my old chats where I asked friends if they liked Miso Beef, and saying 'let it be known I called him out being a weirdo many years ago' lol, called it. Vibes were always off.
I remember feeling bad like 10 years ago cause a girl in my highschool said she was a big fan of shane dawson , and i confused him with onionson so i probably gave her a weird look but i dont think i was rude or it was a big deal but i also confused cody ko and david dobrik and the way i told the difference was david dobrik had accusations , my dumb brain was right all along , confirmation bias for the win! lmao
I fucking love being vindicated all this time after telling everyone this guy seems so damn scummy. And since he hides behind charity, you couldn't touch him with criticism
It doesn't matter. People will continue to subscribe to him out of spite and to just be trolls. They think by doing that it's funny and in their mind they are "pissing" people off! But the only people they ever hurt are themselves in the long run! They do that because they actually think that they're showing people that "you can't tell me what to do/think" even when they know the particular situation is *DIABOLICAL* 😏🤷🏾♂️😔
I'm honestly astounded by how people didn't see this coming. Like you don't go from middle class to help-Gary-Vee-do-a-pump-and-dump rich by heroically giving ALL your money away lol. You don't need to see the company spreadsheets to know someone is getting ripped off here.
Almost all the people on social media, deliberately filming themselves "helping others" are just doing it, because their audience sees it and they get more in return than they originally invested it. They would never ever do it, if nobody was aware of them doing it.
People will throw tomatoes at me but the lady that cook for poor children after making a collage of somebody wasting food. She's always the centre of the attention and do not call for substainable change because if there were more free food donations she would lose her content.
@@Impossibleshadow Don't some charities have to "advertise" themselves a bit and show evidence of their legitimacy to get people to donate? How would people know otherwise? How is it different from people like Kavernacle or Second Thought asking for donations to their patreon if people believe in they cause? They have to show some videos so people know what they're about and evidence that they're legit. I think Mossy Earth is an honest charity. Their videos are interesting. Watch them before you judge.
Good on ya mate for calling this fraud out. You deserve the "I told ya so" attitude you have but I know 100% that most of the RUclipsrs who are jumping on the bashing Mr Beast bandwagon won't give you the credit. They don't want to admit their idiocy and blindness.
@@himpim642Well, remember, Elon was actually proud that Tesla scored 100% for an LGBTQ+ equality thing back around 2018 I believe. Look what he's saying about them now.
As someone who has youtube channels and is also a "lowkey" youtuber, there is nothing better than be able to make good content and live in peace. I don't even show my face that much on my channel. I'm an introvert and I feel at peace knowing I don't have to worry about fame or being "known".
MrBeast is the Sam Bankman Fried of RUclips. And the Harvey Weinstein of RUclips in terms of power dynamics, with all the other big youtubers and streamers silent now and not attacking him because they still want to collaborate with him and gain more fame and money.
There’s always the Tesla-test: if anyone engages with Tesla as anything but a scam, they’re grifting. Beast is a rich-eats-poor public figure in the making.
this i what happens with most CEOs and posh heirs of companies that never had any real job experience before. they inherit the business and the exploit the hell out of their workers as much as the law let them
I feel like even the RUclipsrs who had some previous life experience, like Ludwig, still end up detached from reality at a certain point. Partially from having thousands of people constantly inflating their egos and partially bc once they have the money they see no need to empathize with us poors anymore
On one of Yugoprik's more recent videos on rich people or rich socialists, I think he said Ludwig gave his business away for free or super cheap to his employees cause he said they built the business. Second Thought and Not Just Bikes have over a million subs and they still sound like caring people passionate about what they're talking about. And making high quality and helpful content.
I've alway had an off vibe about jimmy, and it always felt so weird seeing people defend him. It always felt like people ran to the "but he gives away money" as defence whenever any mild criticism of him/his channel/his content, and were mostly willing to completely ignore the criticisms. I saw his content as super exploitative, though i always struggled to explain why. your vids have helped me lots with putting those feelings into words, and its nice to see you never abandoned that perspective, and kept a backbone about that point of view. I'm also reminded of when I think it was two years ago (I can't remember exactly), when there was a behind the scenes video of jimmy's chocolate factory video, what went into it and how jimmy worked so hard and intensively over a short amount of time for that video (iirc working while sick, among other things). And although i remember how people were blown away by how hard-working jimmy seemed, it never went as far as to wondering if his employees were under those same conditions. (I hope I'm remembering this correctly, it was pretty succinct in time and happened a while back, so it's a bit fuzzy in memory)
He is giving away scraps. Otherwise he wouldn't be so obscenely rich. Typical staggeringly entitled rich person using "charity" nor only as a shield but also as fkin business model
it's gross how obsessed this culture is with "working hard"... they go crazy over a guy starting a chocolate co. but have they ever seen how hard people work in the construction industry and building stuff? they conflate the most mundane stuff with working hard.
*I don't wanna be THAT person and make THAT kind of argument, but* all of the details, the nuance, the politics aside, didn't it ever occur to anyone that Mr Beast just LOOKS untrustworthy and shady and stuff? like, it was ALWAYS so obvious to me on an instinctual level.
It's the overly-cheery smile. Doesn't look genuine. I just figured he was a content creator with one of those 'overly-enthusiastic' attitudes solely to market to his audience. Saw his chocolate at Ollie's. That, and a comedic bit on another creator's video that referenced him is literally ALL I knew about him until this. All I can say is a lot of people that get into positions like him only seem to walk into an inevitable downfall. Or in this case, a full-blown sprint.
I've saw a video about physcological things about MrBeast like how he supported Pewdepie to get to 100 millions subscribers because he wanted the fame and success like Pewdiepie. He was so dead set on getting fame and that's why he inserted himself within people like Pewdiepie and more famous RUclipsrs than he was before he got insanely famous on the internet.
People like Mr. Beast also assume that their dreams automatically become the dreams of the workers they hire. So they get upset when someone doesn't do what they want because that's not how you achieve your dream. They fail to see that it's just a job for the person they hired. And that's not just RUclipsrs who want to go viral. It's in many sectors of our society.
That's what bothers me. Capitalists admit they want to force people to work, such as holding people's livelihood and survival hostage, but then say "workers consented so they shouldn't be complaining". And that bosses can continue to mistreat them. How does capitalists wanting to force people to work mean the people love their job so much? Force often means people dislike their jobs.
Power can corrupt too. It's harmful if you say it can't. Having unfortunate circumstances can reveal people too. Like how some people use that as an excuse to harm or exploit others. Like Jennette McCurdy having been manipulated by her mom that she had to be the sole child breadwinner for her family cause of their poverty.
I never liked Mr. Beast or his content. I was always the outlier among many voices in my staunch criticism of his videos. He always gave off an unsettling vibe, and his videos were a bad influence and example for young people. I always thought there was something off about him. All this drama doesn't surprise me; it just proves that I should always trust my gut and not the hype of the current popular trends or content creators.
@@BeautifulEarthJa My problems with charity is that it's often used by capitalists to keep capitalism. And what about helping everyone when we can? Like with socialism and mutual aid. Watch Then & Now on the problems with charities such as with Mr Beast.
I don't think you have to have any "real life experience" like college or regular jobs to not treat people like shit, just having a basic education on how the world works and some level of empathy should be enough. Everything i hear about him make it look like he has never had any close people to relate to and develop a basic sense of empathy though, so rich or not i'm not sure he wouldn't have been an asshole either way. We see that everyday, especially in today's climate where chronically online people can turn pretty quickly into humanly awful person. But i guess getting rich that young probably didn't help when you hear about his personal life.
I agreed with some of what you said, but I think Kavernacle meant that it's hard for bosses to care about their employees, relate to them, or know what they go through when they haven't experienced the same. There is a huge belief, such as from conservatives and capitalists, that is very bias for the boss or owner and gives them too much power. Such as not having to listen to their employees enough, not having to pay minimum wage, not letting employees unionize, and firing them easily if they do. Etc. it's terrible. So even if they think they're a nice person they can think they have a right to be too overpowered and treat their employees badly cause it's their company. I'm sure Mr Beast thinks he's a good person, but is delusional. Kavernacle did say he wasn't saying that everyone who becomes a yt-er young or older means they becomes a bad person. Watch Second Thought and More Perfect Union. Being online a lot helped me to care for people more. Cause I didn't know there was so much injustice, suffering, and prejudice.
It's always "jealousy". Oh, you say the nukes on Japan were unjustified? *JEALOUS!* And that this other person is against stealing cancer meds for profit? *JEALOUS!* Oh, and this third persons says people shouldn't beat their children? *JEALOUS!*
@BeachLookingGuy His charity work is tainted. This is why big businesses do charity work so people can't criticise them, open your eyes...and ironically, don't be blind yourself m8!
Its a classic case of degrees that attract the most sociopaths. Since sociopaths crave wealth, status, and power they are drawn to business, finance, political, medical, and law degrees.
He literally did all those giveaway content just so he could make it big in RUclips and has openly admitted to it multiple times , if that doesn't give it away for people who think he does it genuinely I don't know what will
Kav the only one accurately analyzing the Mr. Beast situation -- especially with respect to how Mr. Beast became big to begin with. Everyone else is just reporting and parroting the news.
Here's one footnote: In the early 2010s when monetizations and "successful" channels had just taken off on YT german public broadcasting already had a single documentary about the first generation of e-celebrities (which were mostly teenagers at the time) titled "No matter what I do they love it" (roughly translated into english). The phenomenon and observation from an outside perspective isn't that new. And in general I agree: Becoming famous as a teenager (pre age of 25 even) usually ends badly for the person and/or the people affiliated with them.
Yes, him. Their is a LOT to do with workers right with him. Let's not forget the serious nasty business with community manager who was forced to quit because it was so toxic.
I don’t think their drama and neglect is anywhere mr beast leaves. But there is plenty of workers rights stuff to talk about within these kind of RUclips businesses
I think some of my perception comes from how he acts, because it’s so unlike people around our age, it feels like he’s an older person TRYING to seem younger which makes him seem older, especially since it’s so forced. It’s the ‘hello fellow kids’ energy that makes you assume that he’s at least 30
I only think about all the children who grow up watching his content and how much his videos are going to affect them on the viewing money , the ones that are going to become rich will treat money and their workers without an ounce of respect like he does , he definitely made an impact of making money associated with happiness for the children who grew up watching his content
His mother was in the army so she couldn’t look after him all the time. So he said he was going to collage but he would sit in his car all day making RUclips videos. If you do 2 videos a day like he used to you will get noticed by an mcn that will get you brand deals from them. So he got money from that to give away and you know from that point so that’s his origin on short
...You did watch the video right? Kav explained it. But essentially he was obsessed with the idea of going viral and treated studying RUclips's algorithm and how to game it like a full time job with mandatory overtime, until he eventually succeeded.
Mark my words Mr beast will come back and start doing a right wing grift after a couple of years of lying low Edit: accord to the new dogpack video Mr beast “likes traditional women” and has constantly put down women trying get a better position in life. Original my suspicion of this was like 60 percent chance and it’s honestly a 90 percent chance.
Kavernacle: "I'm low-key. I'm normal." Also Kavernacle: MY ARGUMENT WITH SOMEONE ELSE IS TEARING APART BREADTUBE I'm teasing, but if you're a RUclipsr, you are not low-key or normal. I mean, there is no such thing as "normal," but that video title showed up in my Veterans of Leftist Infighting fb group and I cannot forget that he made it.
oompaville did a interview with dogpack if u haven't already seen it. He just elaborates what was said on his video and responds to some tweets calling him out
Be aware of boring people. They always seem to have skeletons in their closets. If your entire personality is that you have money and your a good guy you’re not.
I would bet money that Jimmy has severe PTSD and that’s why he doesn’t remember his childhood before the age of 11. It would explain the obsessiveness as well - obsessiveness can be a result of extreme denial/cognitive dissonance/compartmentalisation. Imagine never being able to be in stillness because your brain might start processing extreme trauma. It’s easier to conquer the world than face your demons. Apparently Jimmy’s dad was violent… his parents were absent when they weren’t fighting. It’s the backstory of a super villain. I look forward to seeing what happens next
His mother working in a prison when this is the profession that's ranked third when it comes to domestic violence (anyone watching this channel will guess that cops and soldiers are the other two) is also something to consider.
@@DrZaius3141 there are lots of people who have an array of jobs that do not incline them to domestic violence. I think that’s specious reasoning. Not being able to remember your childhood however is a symptom of PTSD.
@@TimTimAfola I had a far worse childhood and I haven’t chosen to do bad things. It’s wrong to assume that a bad childhood causes poor character - I think he could have symptoms of PTSD - that has nothing to do with his character.
All his charity isn't meant to help. It's meant to gain views. It's disgusting. Why record all your charitable endeavors? It's his business model. It's not philanthropy
You can tell because his videos are all about giving away money. It appears less genuine than someone who who- let's say- makes content for money and then occasionally shows you what they do with some of the money. I've never watched a single one of his videos but I did skim through the video section when all this came up. Everything is focused on giving out money. Not even Jesus was always portrayed as healing the sick and blind 24/7 lol.
I would worry that giving a homeless person 10K in cash (apart from being several types of wrong and foolhardy) would just put a target on that man's back. It's not enough to truly put him back on his feet, so he is most likely amongst a community of desperate people and he has tons of cash? Poor guy would never get any sleep.
I very rarely use cash, but I try to carry a couple of bucks in my wallet. Because I believe that *if you have the means, you have the responsibility to help others in need.* I’ve bought homeless people food and water, I’ve given them cash, I offer to help elderly and disabled people, and NOT once have I ever filmed them or asked for something in return. I’m not rich but I have enough to support myself and my kid. *All these rich people who make more money in an hour than I do a year, seem to only help people when there’s a camera around.*
Ita funny how people say youtube is "alternative media" when this situation showed big youtubers are exactly like hollywood. There was an interview ludwig had with dogpack, where ludwig did no prior research and tried to incriminate dogpack by trying to get him to break his nda. To anyone says these are just regular people you are lying to yourself, when one gets threated they all start to attack. They all have certain images to uphold and money to make, which begs the question what do people like ludwig have to hide.
Lots of people don't know that guy Mr. Beast gave ten grand to have a job at a mechanics shop. (forgot what he did there) He was one of those people who liked to panhandle even though he had a home and stuff. Jimmy wanted to see where he slept but the guy said he was embarrassed to show it off because he lived in the woods but he really didn't. Jimmy at the time didn't know about this, but after that video, his rise to fame made that incident just a blip to his fame and fortune. I got this info from an old Reddit post several years ago.
I think one of the things that most stuck out to me with regards to a Mr Beast thing in journalism, was an interview he did where he talked about how all he could think about when he was spending time with his girlfriend was how much money he wasn't making by spending time with his girlfriend. It actually made me feel a little bit sad for him, because here's this human being whose brain has been broken by gaining so much fame and money, so quickly, that he's unable to have normal human interactions with people beyond calculating how much money it's costing him. Like, yes, the guy is a narcissistic psychopath, but only because youtube and his viewers _made_ him that way. If anything, Jimmy should be held up as a cautionary tale about the dangers of getting too much, too young, too fast.
No one "made" him this way. He chased and manipulated the algorithm. Maybe he's just a scummy person, and all the power and fame brought that to the surface. I wish strangers would stop projecting victimization onto abusers and genuinely terrible people.
He isn’t trapped, he can look for counseling or therapy. How can someone be sad for this guy while, all over the world, so many people are dying in awful conditions just right now and nobody gives a shit? I mean no offense but there are already so many reasons to be sad..
26:46 not a RUclipsr, but it reminds me of someone who grew up with money and never experienced the real world and turned to be a really bad person. He’s running for president of the us
Your message about that irl life experience is pretty telling. Reminds me of how Matpat started his YT channel after trying to find work, or Markiplier choosing to do games instead of pursuing his career... I vaguely recall Tom Scott mentioning something about it in his final video too. I guess there's a case to be made re: having emotional maturity when entering the YT space as an adult rather than as a kid/teen.
Tom Scott was born in 1984. Was he talking about his own life or that of other youtubers? I have seen the video but don't remember anything about that.
I find it very interesting how moistkritical/penguinzo could make a video 10 hours after the Ava Tison situation, but he has been seemingly unaware of the mr beast drama for about a week and happened to decide to not talk about drama right around when mr beast was getting exposed. lots of crazy coincidences in my opinion
As someone who was super into gaming youtube back in the day, it's interesting to even compare people like, back then who were the core three, Jacksepticeye, Markiplier and Pewdiepie. While Pewdiepie did have other things going on early in his career, normal jobs, he was taking youtube seriously longer than Sean or Mark. Felix was even large enough to give Sean a shout out that really boosted his career years ago. And while I still do watch Felix and enjoy his content, he is obviously far more problematic than Jacksepticeye and Markiplier who even now still do a lot of things outside of youtube. Felix is wealthy enough now that combined with Marzia's clothing and jewellery businesses as well, he doesn't need to upload multiple times a week or a huge video essay every month to get by. But he really doesn't have much going on outside of youtube as far as I'm aware. But even outside of youtubery things like the multiple podcasts between Mark and Sean, they have other stuff they clearly care about. Sean clearly cares a lot about his coffee company, does really cool stuff with it and had his comics and stuff, he's discussed wanting to write a fantasy book or series. While Mark doesn't promote Cloak that much, he is making a movie. He's been trying to learn bigger and better things about film making and production since the days of a date with markiplier. I just find that interesting.
Pewds has a baby now so he's probably focused on that. It would be nice to be set up for life by 30 and you can spend the rest of your life just having kids and doing fun things with them
If there's one thing Mr. Beast, PewDiePie and Andrew Tate should have taught us is that kids shouldn't be on the internet watching such deranged adults.
I believe that your take is spot on. Another aspect not to be overlooked is his tight relationship with his mother, (I'm not at all stating that such is a bad thing, per se.) a military woman who also helped to run Fort Leavenworth, which is among the most notorious prisons in the United States. As a matter of necessity, she likely had to be an extremely formidable person, who probably sees humans as objects - soldiers, guards, prisoners. When you stack her influence on top of his early life experience, it's not at all surprising that we find a sociopathic, power crazed man who lacks empathy for the humanity of others. End rant.
I've been chronically online for the majority of my life, but the types of spaces I partook in and the types of people I watched and talked to are the reason I have actual morals and am not severely mentally ill. I never cared about vitality or watching what was really popular or whatever. It's clear Jimmy always saw the whole humanitarian thing as a way to get a step up in the world and make money. That's why he created a totally new, artificial, PC personality to be as marketable as possible.
There’s one quote I like that I thought fitted perfectly with this, “In a blink of an eye you have everything, and in a blink of an eye everything is gone” this goes to show that no matter what you do, and how you do it you should always be thankful because there will come a time where if you aren’t humble it will a regretful day to remember.
I have watched MrBeast since before he had 100k subscribers. Back then he first went viral for a series called “worst intros” where he made fun of bad intros that kids made on RUclips. He took them down a couple years ago, probably because making fun of videos kids made to go viral looks bad.
3:21 Gold Roger, the King of the Pirates attained this and everything else the world had to offer and his dying words drove countless souls to the seas.
Can you make a video calling out the people who are saying that "SunnyV2 was right all along?" These losers are filling the airways and conversations about Mr Beast, without anyone saying anything against them
I wanna go look this up again but iirc there was a study done where some of the participants were asked to play the role of prisoner and the others played as prison guards but they got so into it that it started doing psychological damage to the "prisoners" and the "guards" started getting genuinely abusive. Has anyone done any research into what sudden extreme power/wealth would do to a person, because yea theres a probability that it does do psychological damage especially to someone who had a traumatic childhood
The Stanford Prison Experiment. Pretty sure a lot of the data and experiences were exaggerated or downright fabricated but it's an interesting idea in studying power dynamics.
Those are just the internet nobles. We ain’t much different from medieval peasants. I was more amazed that people actually believed those shows weren’t staged and scripted.
I think another reason is due to the fact you have to be relatively egotistical to put your face out there and also think you have something so important to say or do.
I think so many RUclipsrs get exposed for being awful ppl bc it takes awful ppl (or at least its easier for them) to have that personality that can succeed so much on youtube, and maybe they didn't all originally have that narcissism money hungry personality, but growing on RUclips can def create it
I've never had a job (disability). If youtube made me a millionaire at 19, I wouldn't try to run productions. Because I know that I don't have the life/work/educational experience to just wing it. I'd hire someone to explain what's necessary and I'd listen to them. That's why I hold Supermega accountable for mishandling their employee SAing another employee. They didn't know how to handle that stuff and decided to wing it. HIRE SOMEONE who knows how to follow laws and keep people safe. It's not rocket science, you just have to not consider yourself allknowing.
Mr. Beast's claim he can't remember the first years of his life is... Concerning, to say the least. Generally, that speaks to an abusive past. However, he could be lying to cover up having been born into money (more than he is). If his ma ran a prison and passed him off to various workers to raise, they had money. Period. The "poor single parent" woe narrative is gone out the window there, sorry. Also what kind of psycho thinks it's cool his mother ran a prison? That's insane. That's horrible. Lack of empathy seems to be a family trait.
Of all places to hear ETC being mentioned I didn't expect it to be here. The hosts, Ricky and Elliot, are still covering current events really well as "Internet Today." I do recommend, I've been watching them since like 2014 when I was in my first year of high school
There’s a comedian called Josh Johnson who once said, “Be careful with the people who want fame, and the people who want power, because they are usually the same person.”
He's so funny and smart
Love Josh Johnson, he's fantastic. Brilliant and funny.
Josh Johnson and Sammy Obeid are making me appreciate standup comedy again
I used to know Josh Johnson, he lived in Chicago at the time and the few times I tried standup I did some open mics with him. Very cool guy and was exciting seeing him be one successful.
I'm a subscriber
My only disappointment is how long it took, and that everyone who called this years ago is still going to be ignored the next time it happens with the next "big name"
i called it years back, saying "no one that nice is really that nice, hes got skeletons in his closest" and it turns i was right
@kevinmorrice same lol. I do think nice ppl who donate lots exist out of youtube (because they do) but I have never known a person who records themselves giving stuff away constantly who had good intentions. My first ick was seeing him record himself being a "good guy".... I don't get it, usually ppl r more open to realising it but it's been years and no one can see that it's not normal and evidently fake
It takes time and effort, but it's worth it to guide the sheep onto the right path!
Never liked Mr Beast myself but I could never pin point a specific reason, and if you even tried you’d be met with a hoard of defenders… glad to know I was right lol
@@Alterrspounrelated, but I really like your profile picture
The most outrageous scheme by Mr. Beast:
1. When the impoverished guy 'won' one million dollars.
2. However, he needed to spend it in 24 hours.
3. This did not improve his situation
4. And fed into the perils of capitalism.
5. Just made the message worse.
It was 24 hours not days and they planned the whole thing in a hour.
@f0x4nn3 Thank you. I knew that. I blame the YT editor for assuming. Never my proofreading.
24 days would have had a much different result and message
Why did you need numbered dot points for that ?
@BasedinReality1984 I number each thought. Explanations of each thought, follow the thought; are not numbered separately.
I think in business presentations. 🤔
@@raydunn8262 nah good on ya mate.
All valid observations btw
People fail to realize that this guy has to give away money to get money. He’s not doing this cause he has a good heart but he does it for the clicks and views. Wake up people!
Another thing is if it was from his heart he wouldn’t be recording it.
the problem is that these people will just handwave it all away because "charity". and then they will ask you "how many people have you cured blindness for????"
It also writes of his taxes too
It's an investment... A really good one. But, he failed to step on the breaks and walk away once his investment already peaked. He just went and floored the gas and is now crashed thru the rails and falling off a cliff.
who really cares?
That giving away 10k video interaction was painful
But at least it was real.
Unlike future videos
@@BasedinReality1984 was it?
@@VaultkeeperIRLIt was
@@Alien_Spores how can you be sure? you can get fake money and hire an actor.
@@BasedinReality1984 might be why the rest of them were fake
Here's the thing for me about Mr. Beast. I'm 33, I've never seen a single one of his videos, and I was SHOCKED to recently learn how popular he is. Any time I saw a photo of him, I always assumed he was some industry creation. He is so dead. behind the eyes. No spark. No point of view. Nothing. Even Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk aren't that vacant. What audience is watching this empty shell????
I guess it makes sense why Logan Paul is friends with him, not the first time Paul's filmed a corpse.
@@neoqwerty Oh damn 🤣 good one
It's pretty much exclusively children. You can't build an audience of 300 million adults because they're busy with life.
@@Noooiiiissseee That makes more sense and yet is even more terrifying
@@neoqwerty lol 😂
God mr.beast creeps me out lol. He reminds me of that Christian Bale quote about Tom cruise: “Tom Cruise on Letterman had this very intense friendliness with nothing behind the eyes.”
That's a scarily accurate quote.
and then Christian used that interview of Tom in his portrayal of Patrick Bateman LMAO
@@wewerelectrocute Seriously?! XD that's amazing
😂Oh my days absolutely spot on!! I forgot about that quote. 😅
@@wewerelectrocutei was legit just about to say it's very Patrick Bateman-esque
It's funny because everyone agreed the homeless content vitaly and fousey were doing back in the day were shitty because they're using vulnerable people for content. Mr beast did the same thing just on a bigger scale
Yep
THAT SECOND ONE'S THE MOFO I KEPT TRYING TO REMEMBER THE NAME OF
ive seen some shorts regarding this whole scandal and people are so hyperfixated on the fact that mrbeast fakes his videos, that they completely overlook the actual bigger problem with mrbeast.
Pretty sure everyone is still okay with the charity paradox
With bigger problems do you mean things like the reports that participants aren't treated well?
My impression is that working conditions seem to be a general problem. Recently two big German youtubers got sdome backlash, Anni the duck and Unge as being manipulative and exploiting the people around them (to simplify). One point about Anni were long work days.
Most top replies are things like “Sunny V2 was right, Tyson did cause his downfall”. This ‘cancellation’ has nothing to do with leftist critiques and “charity” content will probably keep getting more popular lol
@@jochenkraus7016 Long, poor, work conditions, fake giveaways that cross the line into fake lotteries, more general fraud with things like claming things are signed when they're not, putting people in danger, ignoring safety concerns, knowingly working with someone being actively predatory, and there's probably more I missed.
They’re hyper focusing on it to minimize his issues
I am here for the Mr. Beast slander. From the mouth wide open thumbnails to the ADHD inducing style of editing to his misunderstanding of the point of squid games his content has always been weirdly off putting to me
It is to most adults. His fans are mostly children and preteens.
I missed the misunderstanding of squid games but yeah those other things were what made me never watch him, and it found it really weird how everyone else seemed to completely overlook it and be completely fine with it
@@tzargthe whole point of squid game is pointing out just how far people would go for money. It's a critique on how easy it is for people to dehumanize each other for the sake of money and power and how those in control of the situation are monsters that find amusement in watching those who are desperate crawl in the mud for scraps. Then Mr beast goes "hey lets make a gameshow based off that and market it to kids."
his content was more authentic years ago. it slowly devolved into how it is now
@@Blox117 It was never authentic. He was always just trying to get rich. People like this always operate this way. A lot of people who do really big attention grabbing things turn out to be dangerous. There was another really famous Jimmy who had a lot of kids as fans in the UK.
they all called kavernacle crazy, for he spoke the truth
Thus Spake Kavethustra
Cad cape kadaveral?
@@willywonka7812 lmao nice
@@willywonka7812😂😂
Because Kavernacle ain't shit
Should be praising SunnyD2 instead
A multi millionaire wanting to recreate squid game is within itself a problem crazy how people praise this dude
Plus the show is critique of capitalism and it's so ironic that he didn't even look into the message, just saw a trend to capitalize on
@@devonmunn5728 pun intended?
He actually deleted a video calling influencers out on “charity content” and then ended up doing it himself. Talk about hypocrisy.
Is this real?
@@AaronWalker2008 most likely
@@aayy9540”I have no proof but I have a personal vendetta against the guy for being rich so I’ll believe any and all gossip against him”
Jimmy gives me creepy Elon Musk vibes. It was obvious from the start this would happen eventually.
Apparently he said that he wants to be the next Elon Musk, so I’d say you’re bang on with that assessment.
You can search the professions with the most psychopaths. Media/TV, journalism and also CEOs are the professions that are all in the top 10. CEOs are the number 1. So the theory of Kavernacle is based on facts. But I dont think he knows this study.
Don't need a adjective just Elon Musk is enough.
@@ace627 Nah, I didn't know enough Mr Beast to compare him to Musk, but something about him seemed creepy to me.
Isn’t he friends with him?
As someone who’s a bit of a workaholic myself, Jimmy’s “entrepreneurial streak” sounds incredibly destructive both to himself and the people around him. This capitalist hell machine we live in convinces us that we need to constantly be working and pushing ourselves (I fell for this too, even as a leftist), but look at the person Jimmy became. He has his little empire, but he has no clue how to run it, and on top of that, is a sadistic corpo weirdo who gets off on turning the people he “helps” into billboards for his brand. Watching his downfall has made me reevaluate my own relationship with work, because damn, did he ever get lost in the sauce.
Mr beast is sort of the perfect person to fall into that kind of behavior but really it could be anyone.
The platforms just create systems that encourage that sort of behavior (as dies capitalism itself of course but Social media is just the wild west ATM)
Nice pfp
@@McDonaldsCalifornia No it couldn't be anyone. MrBeast is just an awful person, that would be the same if he lived in a communist society.
capitalism is the worst
Lol you obviously don't know much about capitalism you must be a child. Capitalism means social cooperation. On one end of the scale you have capitalism and freedom and when you move the other way you have communism and socialism and fascism.
Maybe I'm being too harsh here, but as a former military brat myself, MrBeast having au pairs and going to private school (along with his brother) is not a "harsh upbringing." Regardless of whatever social and emotional challenges faced, financially speaking, his upbringing was far more stable than that of other military brats, or even most children in the US. Even though that wealth doesn't constitute a "rich" upbringing and is minimal compared to where he is now, he grew up in a very white, sheltered, protected and paid for life in the Bible belt of America.
Exactly!
@@solarydaysit’s the hustle myth that every successful person has to clothe themselves in to imply that they earned what they have. It’s almost always completely made up.
Agreed.
This is what I've been saying to everyone.
The 10k video is the start of his manipulative charitable behaviour
Power and money exposes who you really are as a human.
Just remember, he straight up said "Homeless people don't care if I use them for views"
@@LukeyBoyAndTheCatlings narcissist behaviour
scumbagdad has been calling out all these charity content creators.
@@LukeyBoyAndTheCatlingswhen did he said that? Is it on this video? Mr Beast is a complete sociopath
@@mc_va Look up "Mr Beast giving a random homeless man $10,000"
That smile. That damned smile.
And those cold, dead, reptilian eyes.
it's so fake... never a genuine, caring smile... It's the eyes, that tell the truth
Smeyesing (sp?) is not in his programming. You can’t make a socio robot smile convincingly.
Smiles like Jared Fogle.
He smiles like his algorithm to seem less uncanny has yet to update so hes stuck in “almost human” mode.
As someone who stumbled into RUclips several years into my legal career, without ever having really thought it possible... I related heavily to this video lol
Never thought I'd see you here. Wow. Much crossover.
It you!
Hey hello there 😂
Hi Eckharts Ladder!
The fact that his mother who was in the army and ran a prison is now running his HR , wow 😂that's a beautiful recipe ..........
Yep like what could go wrong 😕
From serving one evil empire to another. Yeah, can't say I'm surprised.
@@michael6970 Um, the US is a constitutional democratic Republic, not an empire
@@linagreenlyfe6705 Which explains why they are literally all over the world, including in countries that dont want them there lmaoo
@@linagreenlyfe6705 Should we tell 'em?
Whenever he smiled I can't see it in his eyes at all.
His eyes always looked dead and disinterested to me since when i discovered him back in 2020 and was an occasional viewer
I've been trying to figure out why his smile creeped me out, and I think you nailed it! It just isn't genuine
@@D.N521I always noticed that too but ignored it since he wastes so much money helping people I just thought it wasn’t anything. Guess we were both right all along 😭😅
He's got the smile of someone who's trying to scam you into buying something you don't need.
you can usually tell a genuine smile by the wrinkles forming around the eyes. It‘s said to be a really good indicator for judging if a smile is forced or fake. You can pretty much pause anytime Mr Beast gives a smile and cover his mouth to only look at the eye region and you‘ll see no laugh lines (haven‘t watched any of his content just seen him here and there and it‘s veeeery obvious)
You often see this behaviour when people fake smile for a (family) photograph or with politicians. I think it‘s pretty common knowledge amongst body language experts.
So your instincts were right on the money ;)
I was a Tumblr girly, and i remember the blog 'all your faves are problematic', and it really helped me at a crucial age to understand maybe a bit more nuance around situations.
Also, I can check my old chats where I asked friends if they liked Miso Beef, and saying 'let it be known I called him out being a weirdo many years ago' lol, called it. Vibes were always off.
I remember feeling bad like 10 years ago cause a girl in my highschool said she was a big fan of shane dawson , and i confused him with onionson so i probably gave her a weird look but i dont think i was rude or it was a big deal but i also confused cody ko and david dobrik and the way i told the difference was david dobrik had accusations , my dumb brain was right all along , confirmation bias for the win! lmao
@@darthekul1you were right on confusing all of those guys with each other... They're all shit.
I fucking love being vindicated all this time after telling everyone this guy seems so damn scummy. And since he hides behind charity, you couldn't touch him with criticism
It doesn't matter. People will continue to subscribe to him out of spite and to just be trolls. They think by doing that it's funny and in their mind they are "pissing" people off! But the only people they ever hurt are themselves in the long run! They do that because they actually think that they're showing people that "you can't tell me what to do/think" even when they know the particular situation is *DIABOLICAL* 😏🤷🏾♂️😔
I'm honestly astounded by how people didn't see this coming. Like you don't go from middle class to help-Gary-Vee-do-a-pump-and-dump rich by heroically giving ALL your money away lol. You don't need to see the company spreadsheets to know someone is getting ripped off here.
Almost all the people on social media, deliberately filming themselves "helping others" are just doing it, because their audience sees it and they get more in return than they originally invested it.
They would never ever do it, if nobody was aware of them doing it.
The sad thing is, some charities work like this too, it’s all about attention for their brand and the associated return on investment
People will throw tomatoes at me but the lady that cook for poor children after making a collage of somebody wasting food. She's always the centre of the attention and do not call for substainable change because if there were more free food donations she would lose her content.
@@Impossibleshadow Don't some charities have to "advertise" themselves a bit and show evidence of their legitimacy to get people to donate?
How would people know otherwise?
How is it different from people like Kavernacle or Second Thought asking for donations to their patreon if people believe in they cause?
They have to show some videos so people know what they're about and evidence that they're legit.
I think Mossy Earth is an honest charity. Their videos are interesting. Watch them before you judge.
Good on ya mate for calling this fraud out. You deserve the "I told ya so" attitude you have but I know 100% that most of the RUclipsrs who are jumping on the bashing Mr Beast bandwagon won't give you the credit. They don't want to admit their idiocy and blindness.
Plua they're on him for the faking of videos, not what's inherently at wrong with his content.
i knew he was a terrible youtuber from the start
Included Muta and Charlie.
I bet you, one day he's definitely gonna go down a far right grifter arc the same way Elon musk did after this major blow to his reputation.
be back faster than Dr. Disrespect after school lets out
I give him a month
doubt it.righ no longer wants himn after prot trans stance...his downfall is oked by everyone but most brainwashed fans.
@@himpim642 Milo Y. just sayin
@@himpim642Well, remember, Elon was actually proud that Tesla scored 100% for an LGBTQ+ equality thing back around 2018 I believe. Look what he's saying about them now.
Big RUclipsrs have a "minor" problem
People are so naive. They actually believe there is an infinite money glitch that's win-win for everyone.
Communism?
@@yahia9481get a clue
Communism is more about distributing the resources you already have to where they're needed the most.
They see a youtuber becoming multimilionaire giving out money and think: "yep. This seems legit".
Hm
As someone who has youtube channels and is also a "lowkey" youtuber, there is nothing better than be able to make good content and live in peace. I don't even show my face that much on my channel. I'm an introvert and I feel at peace knowing I don't have to worry about fame or being "known".
Real statement
Privacy is so important to me. People can destroy you when they learn everything about you
And will try to which is sick, we all make mistakes and are flawed people but the wider public, sone seek to demolish any good you build
Hm
@@Peepkeepkap burger
MrBeast is the Sam Bankman Fried of RUclips. And the Harvey Weinstein of RUclips in terms of power dynamics, with all the other big youtubers and streamers silent now and not attacking him because they still want to collaborate with him and gain more fame and money.
Spot on
There’s always the Tesla-test: if anyone engages with Tesla as anything but a scam, they’re grifting. Beast is a rich-eats-poor public figure in the making.
💯
"Oh, so you as well?"
* eyeroll *
* hits unsubscribe button *
The Kavernacle: I never cared about the analytics...
It was all about the CHOCOLATE ORANGES!!!
I wonder what happened to them all
@@ChrispyDubstep They are propping up the YT plaque!
He hasn't fallen yet though, we need to make sure this doesn't just blow over
It will! Trolls will not let him "fall" trust me!
I think I owe an apology for some of my previous comments that were emphatically defending Mr. Beast way back when.
I'll just screenshot this because of how rare comment apologies are on the internet
yoo this is cool, I love seeing these types of comments
this i what happens with most CEOs and posh heirs of companies that never had any real job experience before. they inherit the business and the exploit the hell out of their workers as much as the law let them
And where the law doesn't as well
Not caring about other people is just the meta. It’s a fundamental problem with capitalism, if you ask me.
Yeah. It's forces hyper individualism
Empathy and caring = weak. Weak = poor
Capitalism has problems but it’s the best human system that’s possible
Not just capitalism, it's a fundamental problem with civilisation.
@@jackspinner4727loooool imagine believing this garbage
Anyone else just learning that Kav has a brother? Lol
I wanna know if I'm already subscribed, who could it be?
I think his brother is Kavos. They sound and look very similar.
@@networthwars great shout and the name fits. Was aware, wasn't subscribed, he enunciates too well
@@networthwars yeah, you can see they're definitely related.
All I'll say is that after a quick glance at his channel, this channel is much more me
Lol i found it funny how he mentioned his brother multiple times, says he’s a youtuber, then doesn’t say who he is
I feel like even the RUclipsrs who had some previous life experience, like Ludwig, still end up detached from reality at a certain point. Partially from having thousands of people constantly inflating their egos and partially bc once they have the money they see no need to empathize with us poors anymore
I can’t stand Ludwig at all. I hope he gets canceled too. 😂
On one of Yugoprik's more recent videos on rich people or rich socialists, I think he said Ludwig gave his business away for free or super cheap to his employees cause he said they built the business.
Second Thought and Not Just Bikes have over a million subs and they still sound like caring people passionate about what they're talking about. And making high quality and helpful content.
I've alway had an off vibe about jimmy, and it always felt so weird seeing people defend him. It always felt like people ran to the "but he gives away money" as defence whenever any mild criticism of him/his channel/his content, and were mostly willing to completely ignore the criticisms. I saw his content as super exploitative, though i always struggled to explain why. your vids have helped me lots with putting those feelings into words, and its nice to see you never abandoned that perspective, and kept a backbone about that point of view.
I'm also reminded of when I think it was two years ago (I can't remember exactly), when there was a behind the scenes video of jimmy's chocolate factory video, what went into it and how jimmy worked so hard and intensively over a short amount of time for that video (iirc working while sick, among other things). And although i remember how people were blown away by how hard-working jimmy seemed, it never went as far as to wondering if his employees were under those same conditions. (I hope I'm remembering this correctly, it was pretty succinct in time and happened a while back, so it's a bit fuzzy in memory)
He is giving away scraps. Otherwise he wouldn't be so obscenely rich. Typical staggeringly entitled rich person using "charity" nor only as a shield but also as fkin business model
it's gross how obsessed this culture is with "working hard"... they go crazy over a guy starting a chocolate co. but have they ever seen how hard people work in the construction industry and building stuff? they conflate the most mundane stuff with working hard.
*I don't wanna be THAT person and make THAT kind of argument, but* all of the details, the nuance, the politics aside, didn't it ever occur to anyone that Mr Beast just LOOKS untrustworthy and shady and stuff? like, it was ALWAYS so obvious to me on an instinctual level.
He and Chris do have this weirdo look about them
He’s always looked like a weirdo in his thumbnails
His thumbnail smiles haunt my dreams like a sleep paralysis demon >
He always looked suspicious to me i was pretty sure this would happen someday, and can i be honest. This is oddly satisfying
It's the overly-cheery smile. Doesn't look genuine. I just figured he was a content creator with one of those 'overly-enthusiastic' attitudes solely to market to his audience.
Saw his chocolate at Ollie's. That, and a comedic bit on another creator's video that referenced him is literally ALL I knew about him until this. All I can say is a lot of people that get into positions like him only seem to walk into an inevitable downfall. Or in this case, a full-blown sprint.
I've saw a video about physcological things about MrBeast like how he supported Pewdepie to get to 100 millions subscribers because he wanted the fame and success like Pewdiepie. He was so dead set on getting fame and that's why he inserted himself within people like Pewdiepie and more famous RUclipsrs than he was before he got insanely famous on the internet.
WORDING PLEASE im cryin with laughter DON"T TALK ABOUT MR BEAST INSERTING HIMSELF WITHIN OTHER RUclipsRS
@@neoqwerty Ah geez 😭 I didn't mean it like that please
People like Mr. Beast also assume that their dreams automatically become the dreams of the workers they hire. So they get upset when someone doesn't do what they want because that's not how you achieve your dream. They fail to see that it's just a job for the person they hired.
And that's not just RUclipsrs who want to go viral. It's in many sectors of our society.
That's what bothers me. Capitalists admit they want to force people to work, such as holding people's livelihood and survival hostage, but then say "workers consented so they shouldn't be complaining".
And that bosses can continue to mistreat them.
How does capitalists wanting to force people to work mean the people love their job so much?
Force often means people dislike their jobs.
Power doesn't corrupt, it just reveals who you really are. And usually it turns out that many people have very negative personality traits.
Same with alcohol and drugs
Power can corrupt too. It's harmful if you say it can't.
Having unfortunate circumstances can reveal people too. Like how some people use that as an excuse to harm or exploit others.
Like Jennette McCurdy having been manipulated by her mom that she had to be the sole child breadwinner for her family cause of their poverty.
I never liked Mr. Beast or his content. I was always the outlier among many voices in my staunch criticism of his videos. He always gave off an unsettling vibe, and his videos were a bad influence and example for young people. I always thought there was something off about him. All this drama doesn't surprise me; it just proves that I should always trust my gut and not the hype of the current popular trends or content creators.
Solidarity/mutual aid > charity
Amen. Beast and others want no structural change.
@@BeautifulEarthJa My problems with charity is that it's often used by capitalists to keep capitalism.
And what about helping everyone when we can? Like with socialism and mutual aid.
Watch Then & Now on the problems with charities such as with Mr Beast.
I don't think you have to have any "real life experience" like college or regular jobs to not treat people like shit, just having a basic education on how the world works and some level of empathy should be enough.
Everything i hear about him make it look like he has never had any close people to relate to and develop a basic sense of empathy though, so rich or not i'm not sure he wouldn't have been an asshole either way. We see that everyday, especially in today's climate where chronically online people can turn pretty quickly into humanly awful person. But i guess getting rich that young probably didn't help when you hear about his personal life.
I agreed with some of what you said, but I think Kavernacle meant that it's hard for bosses to care about their employees, relate to them, or know what they go through when they haven't experienced the same.
There is a huge belief, such as from conservatives and capitalists, that is very bias for the boss or owner and gives them too much power.
Such as not having to listen to their employees enough, not having to pay minimum wage, not letting employees unionize, and firing them easily if they do. Etc. it's terrible.
So even if they think they're a nice person they can think they have a right to be too overpowered and treat their employees badly cause it's their company.
I'm sure Mr Beast thinks he's a good person, but is delusional.
Kavernacle did say he wasn't saying that everyone who becomes a yt-er young or older means they becomes a bad person.
Watch Second Thought and More Perfect Union.
Being online a lot helped me to care for people more. Cause I didn't know there was so much injustice, suffering, and prejudice.
Being online helped me care for people more. Cause I didn't know there was so much injustice, suffering, and prejudice.
b-but but... charity, free stuff, disgusting chocolate and fast food... YOU'RE CLEARLY JEALOUS!!!
yea i wonder how many people with blindness this guy cured....
It's always "jealousy". Oh, you say the nukes on Japan were unjustified? *JEALOUS!* And that this other person is against stealing cancer meds for profit? *JEALOUS!* Oh, and this third persons says people shouldn't beat their children? *JEALOUS!*
@BeachLookingGuy His charity work is tainted. This is why big businesses do charity work so people can't criticise them, open your eyes...and ironically, don't be blind yourself m8!
@@purpleprinc3 i was being sarcastic ;)
@@purpleprinc3 The irony of you calling out the ironic nature of something that was sarcastic to begin with.
Its a classic case of degrees that attract the most sociopaths. Since sociopaths crave wealth, status, and power they are drawn to business, finance, political, medical, and law degrees.
Also the military and police force
@@AYAKXSHI Yeah, but those jobs attract the dumb sociopaths all the smart ones want to become heads of state or VCs not over-glorified mall cops.
And they’re ruling the world, unfortunately.
The MrBeast Haters Club has a surge of new members. The Kavernacle is member #0, the founder and president of the club.
Hi Jimmy 😂
@@clearskies I don't think Jimmy Beast is in this comment section.
He literally did all those giveaway content just so he could make it big in RUclips and has openly admitted to it multiple times , if that doesn't give it away for people who think he does it genuinely I don't know what will
Kav the only one accurately analyzing the Mr. Beast situation -- especially with respect to how Mr. Beast became big to begin with. Everyone else is just reporting and parroting the news.
it's actually such a click farm - and worst of all most of the people spamming these vids always defended him in the past 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@@TheKavernacleexactly
@@TheKavernacle 💯💯another great point
Here's one footnote: In the early 2010s when monetizations and "successful" channels had just taken off on YT german public broadcasting already had a single documentary about the first generation of e-celebrities (which were mostly teenagers at the time) titled "No matter what I do they love it" (roughly translated into english). The phenomenon and observation from an outside perspective isn't that new.
And in general I agree: Becoming famous as a teenager (pre age of 25 even) usually ends badly for the person and/or the people affiliated with them.
It's a similar phenomenon with lottery winners.
@@michael6970 yup the quicker one obtains wealth the the faster they lose it
Linus tech tips has been exposed numerous times and you can probably make a video on it, the drama is so deep
Yes, him.
Their is a LOT to do with workers right with him. Let's not forget the serious nasty business with community manager who was forced to quit because it was so toxic.
worst thing they did was keep anthony in after his mental break
@@Blox117 go be transphobic in the middle of the nearest highway.
@@Blox117she’s trans. Don’t bring transphobia to this channel.
I don’t think their drama and neglect is anywhere mr beast leaves. But there is plenty of workers rights stuff to talk about within these kind of RUclips businesses
Biggest shock of the video was finding out Mr Beast is only 26, why does he look at least a decade older?
I've often thought that too. But could be because of the Crohn's disease
He doesn't look a decade older, that's a grown man. I don't understand what about him looks like a 36 year old?
@@Alluringspace Yeah he does not look in his 30s to me. It's just a weird take these guys have.
@@sarahmulqueen6079 oh I didn’t know about this
I think some of my perception comes from how he acts, because it’s so unlike people around our age, it feels like he’s an older person TRYING to seem younger which makes him seem older, especially since it’s so forced.
It’s the ‘hello fellow kids’ energy that makes you assume that he’s at least 30
I only think about all the children who grow up watching his content and how much his videos are going to affect them on the viewing money , the ones that are going to become rich will treat money and their workers without an ounce of respect like he does , he definitely made an impact of making money associated with happiness for the children who grew up watching his content
how did he even get so much money as a teen anyways ? I don't know his origin story
His mother was in the army so she couldn’t look after him all the time. So he said he was going to collage but he would sit in his car all day making RUclips videos. If you do 2 videos a day like he used to you will get noticed by an mcn that will get you brand deals from them. So he got money from that to give away and you know from that point so that’s his origin on short
...You did watch the video right? Kav explained it. But essentially he was obsessed with the idea of going viral and treated studying RUclips's algorithm and how to game it like a full time job with mandatory overtime, until he eventually succeeded.
@@yautl1 i think its pretty obvious they didn't
Mark my words Mr beast will come back and start doing a right wing grift after a couple of years of lying low
Edit: accord to the new dogpack video Mr beast “likes traditional women” and has constantly put down women trying get a better position in life. Original my suspicion of this was like 60 percent chance and it’s honestly a 90 percent chance.
Nah, he's not going tot go lie low and go straight for the Alt right grift
Kavernacle: "I'm low-key. I'm normal."
Also Kavernacle: MY ARGUMENT WITH SOMEONE ELSE IS TEARING APART BREADTUBE
I'm teasing, but if you're a RUclipsr, you are not low-key or normal. I mean, there is no such thing as "normal," but that video title showed up in my Veterans of Leftist Infighting fb group and I cannot forget that he made it.
oompaville did a interview with dogpack if u haven't already seen it. He just elaborates what was said on his video and responds to some tweets calling him out
Be aware of boring people. They always seem to have skeletons in their closets. If your entire personality is that you have money and your a good guy you’re not.
I would bet money that Jimmy has severe PTSD and that’s why he doesn’t remember his childhood before the age of 11. It would explain the obsessiveness as well - obsessiveness can be a result of extreme denial/cognitive dissonance/compartmentalisation. Imagine never being able to be in stillness because your brain might start processing extreme trauma. It’s easier to conquer the world than face your demons. Apparently Jimmy’s dad was violent… his parents were absent when they weren’t fighting. It’s the backstory of a super villain.
I look forward to seeing what happens next
His mother working in a prison when this is the profession that's ranked third when it comes to domestic violence (anyone watching this channel will guess that cops and soldiers are the other two) is also something to consider.
@@DrZaius3141 there are lots of people who have an array of jobs that do not incline them to domestic violence. I think that’s specious reasoning. Not being able to remember your childhood however is a symptom of PTSD.
Jimmy would have been dead due to his violent past so am guessing all that has messed him up to the person he is today.
@@TimTimAfola I had a far worse childhood and I haven’t chosen to do bad things. It’s wrong to assume that a bad childhood causes poor character - I think he could have symptoms of PTSD - that has nothing to do with his character.
@@PhimbleG-d mental health is a mix of genetics and environment. so genetics play into it as well.
All his charity isn't meant to help. It's meant to gain views. It's disgusting. Why record all your charitable endeavors? It's his business model. It's not philanthropy
It's the opposite of Christian teachings, that's for certain. Showing off all his charity work goes directly against Jesus' teachings.
Umm it is
You can tell because his videos are all about giving away money. It appears less genuine than someone who who- let's say- makes content for money and then occasionally shows you what they do with some of the money. I've never watched a single one of his videos but I did skim through the video section when all this came up. Everything is focused on giving out money. Not even Jesus was always portrayed as healing the sick and blind 24/7 lol.
"never trust a man who smiles a lot, no one can be that happy" my dad once said that to me
😂good one😂
I would worry that giving a homeless person 10K in cash (apart from being several types of wrong and foolhardy) would just put a target on that man's back. It's not enough to truly put him back on his feet, so he is most likely amongst a community of desperate people and he has tons of cash? Poor guy would never get any sleep.
I very rarely use cash, but I try to carry a couple of bucks in my wallet. Because I believe that *if you have the means, you have the responsibility to help others in need.* I’ve bought homeless people food and water, I’ve given them cash, I offer to help elderly and disabled people, and NOT once have I ever filmed them or asked for something in return. I’m not rich but I have enough to support myself and my kid. *All these rich people who make more money in an hour than I do a year, seem to only help people when there’s a camera around.*
Ita funny how people say youtube is "alternative media" when this situation showed big youtubers are exactly like hollywood. There was an interview ludwig had with dogpack, where ludwig did no prior research and tried to incriminate dogpack by trying to get him to break his nda. To anyone says these are just regular people you are lying to yourself, when one gets threated they all start to attack. They all have certain images to uphold and money to make, which begs the question what do people like ludwig have to hide.
Lots of people don't know that guy Mr. Beast gave ten grand to have a job at a mechanics shop. (forgot what he did there) He was one of those people who liked to panhandle even though he had a home and stuff. Jimmy wanted to see where he slept but the guy said he was embarrassed to show it off because he lived in the woods but he really didn't. Jimmy at the time didn't know about this, but after that video, his rise to fame made that incident just a blip to his fame and fortune. I got this info from an old Reddit post several years ago.
I think one of the things that most stuck out to me with regards to a Mr Beast thing in journalism, was an interview he did where he talked about how all he could think about when he was spending time with his girlfriend was how much money he wasn't making by spending time with his girlfriend.
It actually made me feel a little bit sad for him, because here's this human being whose brain has been broken by gaining so much fame and money, so quickly, that he's unable to have normal human interactions with people beyond calculating how much money it's costing him. Like, yes, the guy is a narcissistic psychopath, but only because youtube and his viewers _made_ him that way.
If anything, Jimmy should be held up as a cautionary tale about the dangers of getting too much, too young, too fast.
No one "made" him this way. He chased and manipulated the algorithm. Maybe he's just a scummy person, and all the power and fame brought that to the surface. I wish strangers would stop projecting victimization onto abusers and genuinely terrible people.
If he truly is a psycho/sociopath and/or a narcissist, he would have been one BEFORE his RUclips success.
Child stars already did that before mr.beast but the powers that be (capitalism) needs people like mr beast
He isn’t trapped, he can look for counseling or therapy. How can someone be sad for this guy while, all over the world, so many people are dying in awful conditions just right now and nobody gives a shit? I mean no offense but there are already so many reasons to be sad..
I don't think he's a psychopath. Maybe more of a sociopath. Manipulative, and seems to be emulating humans emotion but not actually feeling it.
26:46 not a RUclipsr, but it reminds me of someone who grew up with money and never experienced the real world and turned to be a really bad person.
He’s running for president of the us
Your message about that irl life experience is pretty telling. Reminds me of how Matpat started his YT channel after trying to find work, or Markiplier choosing to do games instead of pursuing his career... I vaguely recall Tom Scott mentioning something about it in his final video too.
I guess there's a case to be made re: having emotional maturity when entering the YT space as an adult rather than as a kid/teen.
Tom Scott was born in 1984. Was he talking about his own life or that of other youtubers? I have seen the video but don't remember anything about that.
0:32 literally all he cares about is views and money. He doesn’t give a f that he’s helping people. It’s just part of the plan.
I find it very interesting how moistkritical/penguinzo could make a video 10 hours after the Ava Tison situation, but he has been seemingly unaware of the mr beast drama for about a week and happened to decide to not talk about drama right around when mr beast was getting exposed. lots of crazy coincidences in my opinion
As someone who was super into gaming youtube back in the day, it's interesting to even compare people like, back then who were the core three, Jacksepticeye, Markiplier and Pewdiepie. While Pewdiepie did have other things going on early in his career, normal jobs, he was taking youtube seriously longer than Sean or Mark. Felix was even large enough to give Sean a shout out that really boosted his career years ago.
And while I still do watch Felix and enjoy his content, he is obviously far more problematic than Jacksepticeye and Markiplier who even now still do a lot of things outside of youtube.
Felix is wealthy enough now that combined with Marzia's clothing and jewellery businesses as well, he doesn't need to upload multiple times a week or a huge video essay every month to get by. But he really doesn't have much going on outside of youtube as far as I'm aware. But even outside of youtubery things like the multiple podcasts between Mark and Sean, they have other stuff they clearly care about.
Sean clearly cares a lot about his coffee company, does really cool stuff with it and had his comics and stuff, he's discussed wanting to write a fantasy book or series. While Mark doesn't promote Cloak that much, he is making a movie. He's been trying to learn bigger and better things about film making and production since the days of a date with markiplier. I just find that interesting.
Pewds has a baby now so he's probably focused on that. It would be nice to be set up for life by 30 and you can spend the rest of your life just having kids and doing fun things with them
@@em84c yes I agree, but I meant even before Bjorn. He hasn't really done much outside of his channel in general.
The most alarming thing is, that his audience (12-14-year-olds) has no clue about this and doesn't care either
If there's one thing Mr. Beast, PewDiePie and Andrew Tate should have taught us is that kids shouldn't be on the internet watching such deranged adults.
I believe that your take is spot on. Another aspect not to be overlooked is his tight relationship with his mother, (I'm not at all stating that such is a bad thing, per se.) a military woman who also helped to run Fort Leavenworth, which is among the most notorious prisons in the United States. As a matter of necessity, she likely had to be an extremely formidable person, who probably sees humans as objects - soldiers, guards, prisoners. When you stack her influence on top of his early life experience, it's not at all surprising that we find a sociopathic, power crazed man who lacks empathy for the humanity of others. End rant.
Might also explain the "I don't remember anything from my life from when I was younger than eleven." F-ing ELEVEN.
Frist youtuber that pops in my head is the completionist "Super nice guy" turned into scammer lying manipulator
Kavarnacle when he realized that he was the first Mr Beast hater and nobody even remembered: “WE STAND HERE ADMIST MY ACHIEVEMENTS, NOT YOURS”
I've been chronically online for the majority of my life, but the types of spaces I partook in and the types of people I watched and talked to are the reason I have actual morals and am not severely mentally ill. I never cared about vitality or watching what was really popular or whatever. It's clear Jimmy always saw the whole humanitarian thing as a way to get a step up in the world and make money. That's why he created a totally new, artificial, PC personality to be as marketable as possible.
Jimmy to Ava Kris: "Do you have any idea. ANY IDEA AT ALL! What you have cost me"
Again about money and image
There’s one quote I like that I thought fitted perfectly with this, “In a blink of an eye you have everything, and in a blink of an eye everything is gone” this goes to show that no matter what you do, and how you do it you should always be thankful because there will come a time where if you aren’t humble it will a regretful day to remember.
I used to watch Mr Beast back during his "Worst Intros" videos back in 2017/2018. To see all this happen now is wild.
it’s extremely odd that you have made three videos on mr beast and not a single one about the uk race riots going on right now.
could be these were all filmed before the riots happened... just a thought 😶🌫️
I know the saying is 'absolute power corrupts absolutely' but to my mind it's always been 'absolute power attracts absolute c***s' and I stand by that
I have watched MrBeast since before he had 100k subscribers. Back then he first went viral for a series called “worst intros” where he made fun of bad intros that kids made on RUclips. He took them down a couple years ago, probably because making fun of videos kids made to go viral looks bad.
You need a touch of madness to achieve that much popularity
Product of your surroundings! 🤷🏾♂️😔
3:21 Gold Roger, the King of the Pirates attained this and everything else the world had to offer and his dying words drove countless souls to the seas.
Can you make a video calling out the people who are saying that "SunnyV2 was right all along?" These losers are filling the airways and conversations about Mr Beast, without anyone saying anything against them
I wanna go look this up again but iirc there was a study done where some of the participants were asked to play the role of prisoner and the others played as prison guards but they got so into it that it started doing psychological damage to the "prisoners" and the "guards" started getting genuinely abusive.
Has anyone done any research into what sudden extreme power/wealth would do to a person, because yea theres a probability that it does do psychological damage especially to someone who had a traumatic childhood
The Stanford Prison Experiment. Pretty sure a lot of the data and experiences were exaggerated or downright fabricated but it's an interesting idea in studying power dynamics.
That experiment isnt valid cause the researcher encouraged them to abuse the 'prisoners'
Those are just the internet nobles. We ain’t much different from medieval peasants.
I was more amazed that people actually believed those shows weren’t staged and scripted.
Dogpack definitely has another video coming.. he said it’s going to be more damning than the first
I think another reason is due to the fact you have to be relatively egotistical to put your face out there and also think you have something so important to say or do.
His subscriber count has barely dropped, his downfall is NOT happening.
I think so many RUclipsrs get exposed for being awful ppl bc it takes awful ppl (or at least its easier for them) to have that personality that can succeed so much on youtube, and maybe they didn't all originally have that narcissism money hungry personality, but growing on RUclips can def create it
I've never had a job (disability). If youtube made me a millionaire at 19, I wouldn't try to run productions. Because I know that I don't have the life/work/educational experience to just wing it. I'd hire someone to explain what's necessary and I'd listen to them.
That's why I hold Supermega accountable for mishandling their employee SAing another employee. They didn't know how to handle that stuff and decided to wing it. HIRE SOMEONE who knows how to follow laws and keep people safe. It's not rocket science, you just have to not consider yourself allknowing.
Mr. Beast's claim he can't remember the first years of his life is... Concerning, to say the least. Generally, that speaks to an abusive past.
However, he could be lying to cover up having been born into money (more than he is). If his ma ran a prison and passed him off to various workers to raise, they had money. Period. The "poor single parent" woe narrative is gone out the window there, sorry. Also what kind of psycho thinks it's cool his mother ran a prison? That's insane. That's horrible. Lack of empathy seems to be a family trait.
Jimmy Beast, the cousin of Tim Apple
MR Beast is now on RUMBLE
So we can expect him and Russell Brand to co-op together on some dumba$$ money grab scheme?
Like right now?
U can't rise to fame without selling your soul
Of all places to hear ETC being mentioned I didn't expect it to be here. The hosts, Ricky and Elliot, are still covering current events really well as "Internet Today." I do recommend, I've been watching them since like 2014 when I was in my first year of high school