When the Kidnapping Doesn't Go According to Plan
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Everyone needs a nosey shirtless neighbor. He's annoying sometimes, but you'll be glad he's around when there's a mystery to solve.
Chad Daybell had a nosey neighbour. His name was Haldon (I think). He died suddenly in mysterious circumstances.
OJ was my neighbor
💯!! Shirtless neighbour man FTW!
My parents lost ours a couple years ago, Ralph kept a lot of rift raft out of our area. Since he past neighborhood has gone to shit.
@@georgewashington3393 Nice and you lived to tell the tale.
That neighbour needs to be invited to every crime scene
With his shirt off
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Exactly
Kind of a pain in the ass though? He wouldn't stop talking.
@@Tranqd.24 he'd be talking facts tho LoL xD
Shirtless Sherlock is pretty impressive
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Yeah no shirt Sherlock
@@robertlocksley1710 Good one! 👍😄
hahaha he needs a job with the PD😹
@@boobookittyyfk "Partially Disrobed?"
So obviously the neighbor is MVP of this video. I’d also like to point out that when the cops ask “what was missing” he immediately says “a 30 year old male” obviously placing his main concern on David rather than the physical objects missing from the house. Dude is a real one.
He's a human being. Not a gaming mvp. (!)
@@_Meng_Lan imagine being so bored of ur life u have to argue over nothing
Imagine watching racist cartoons and smiling ….and criticizing anyone else’s choices.
Shoutout to the neighbor! Solved the case and he is clearly a good friend. Buddy knew their routines and everything
😂 the neighbor solved half the case with his shirt off.
Common sense came naturally to him that’s for sure 😂👍👍good job neighbor!!!
They be doing that! When you been through it, you recognize things....
The shirtless detective 😸
Hahaha!!!!! I’m dying !!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😂😂😂😂😂
That’s what I was saying.
Who the hell is this neighbour? Mr. Super Detective? Dude is spot on.
I was just a shocked as you are. He had it from the start. He should be the lead investigator lol.
My guy solved the case before the cops even got there lol
We stopped saying "my guy" back in 2021 Kitty@@kittysoft_pawwws5127
I bet the neighbor watches dateline and loves tru crime…he didn’t skip a beat haha
Yeah that guy is the man
Yeah, it's never a good sign when someone says, "Her name is Kelley" and the cops first response is, "I know who she is."
It's not good but not necessarily her fault. Back when I was married, my wife would attack me and then call the cops. About once a month. I was never arrested because all my wounds were defensive, but I still had a huge incident file.
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@@Santa-ny1ypcrazy bisshes everywhere. They def are a strange creature lol. Hopefully you got away or she got the help she needs.
True.
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Guy wearing a "I'm not trying to be difficult" shirt was literally the most cooperative dude I've ever seen
He wasn't trying to be difficult
Cop: what's your name son?
Suspect: I'm not sure. Everything was happening so fast...
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@@FifiR3 Maybe he was born week prior. 😅
He was ridiculous!
The neighbor should give an introductory class to the police officer 😂😂
Definitely
Yes but he should wear a shirt.
@@EricGreniervideo Steady Sir, Shirts are kryptonite to him.
that's the source of his power!!
That neighbor could be the neighbor,the witness ,Forensic,detective,prosecutor and judge and even the jail guard if they let him !!!😂😂😂
Yeah, shirtless man is badass, I'd love to have him in my corner anyday.
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So true
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Shirtless neighbor being THE detective. He literally said exactly what happened the day he was reported missing. That she knock on the door and Hollywood pushed in and hit him and forced him in the car. This entire thing is just heartbreaking. My condolences to David’s family and loved ones especially his daughter Mariah
Down to the detail of moving the car into the garage. Super crazy!!!
he was so good that if I was a cop I would be suspicious that maybe he the neighbor shirtless detective is the one that did all that LOL
The cops minimizing the blood and wire at the scene is maddening!!!
you can’t fathom the thought of them just wanting to keep the family a bit calm until they knew for sure ?
@@aoki556"you can't fathom the thought...?" you can't add something without being condescending?
@@aoki556 clearly I can not
@@velvetunderbite I apply my words depending on the case :) like I’m sure many people do
maybe more people need to apply more thought too huh
@@BryanMcPherson that is a shame
It’s never really about the child. It’s about control.
Not never though
@@yeahB Agreed, those aren't two mutually exclusive reasons to commit such a heinous crime
The neighbour explained everything that was out of place ... the police didn't
That cop was trying so hard to not investigate.
If it wasn't so grim it would be funny. I actually had to go back to the start because I thought I got the dad and neighbour mixed up and assumed the shirtless man was the dad lol
Yah...but isn't he odd af???
I'm only 15 minutes in, but sheesh man....put on a shirt and shut tf up.
Seems to me like he is involved, at this point.
How the hell would the cops know what's out of place? Think about it. The situation has to be reported. Information gathering.
@@cathleenwilliamson6668 the neighbor explained even the blood on wall and floor. The struggle, everything, spot on!
We would be so lucky to have a neighbor like that.
How would that make you lucky? Is not like he stop what was going on. If being lucky is having a neighbor that can figure out how something happened to you or a family member i rather not be so lucky and stay safe
Or unlucky if you are up to know good. That dude knows the lay out over everyone's house 🤣 I bet he does practice drills to take on multiple people in a bum rush surprise attack
Profiler on point
.... No You Really Really Would Not Like A Neighbour Like 'Señor Know-All'... What Does He Know About YOU & YOURS... Something is Afoot... Is 12 Inches Afoot 😂🎉 27:07
@@alexcarbajal4862if something was gonna happen it would still happen….having a neighbor like that minimizes the chances and helps with the investigation and drastically highers the chances of solving the crime or keeping the person safe
I love how much effort was put into the subtitles! Most true crime youtubers don't put any effort into it and it makes it hard for me to watch, because I rely on subtitles. So thanks :D
Same !!
I like subtitles too!!
Same here
Where? Who? What subtitles? 🧐
Oh yeah, there they are, subtitles, look at that. 😯
Same here cuz I am French and as you know, we French we are very bad in foreign languages. So the subtiles help me a lot to improve my broken English. I do appreciate your channel ! Love from the Bassin d'Arcachon ( the best oysters !).
Cops: “What are you missing right now that you know of?”
Neighbor: “We’re missing a 30 year old.”
The fact she keeps saying he “took” their daughter when what she means is the court granted him custody over her, is verrrry telling
And she married a dangerous guy who isn't safe for her daughter to be around.
And rightfully so. She was coaching the child to say her father was SA’ing her.
@@em84cShe’s not married to Frank, she’s married to some other dude we never hear about. One more reason her life was so unstable.
The fact he sent a text to her saying my dad is gone now and she said "good" lets you know she set something up
If David got custody over Kelley then she's not what she seems to be.
That's what I was thinking. There's way more to it than she describes.
I just read the statement the daughter made at her sentencing. Kelley was not a good mother or good person in general.
That’s not true at all. I was and am still a wonderful mother. My children are adults now. My ex and I taught for five years over custody. He had custody at first because he is very manipulating to the extreme of abuse. I finally got smart. Had a GAL involved to speak on behalf of my children as I went into hiding with them. The judge and his attorney could not believe that they were manipulated for the last five years. My kids don’t want anything to do with him today. He apologized but they don’t want anything to do with him. My daughter won’t even take the grandbaby over to see him. What she says to the investigator sounds familiar to me.
@@JD-dh7bkassuming that means you looked the case up (since i didn't see that in the video), i'm curious if there was any credibility at all to the 'inappropriate conduct' accusations being leveled at the father? wouldn't change much in the scheme of things, i'm just curious how depraved that woman really was (or wasn't, as much); i feel pretty sure the frank guy fully believed it either way, which is here nor there, but.
In this case yes but there are plenty of master manipulators (Moms and Dads) who fraudulently got custody by lying, affording a good attorney. I agree in this case but not every one.
Thats a cool neighbor, he seemed just as concerned as anyone
He worked harder then both officers on site combined
He knows more of that family's business than they do 😂
I have an inkling he may be a bit more than Dad's "neighbour".
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@@sasskvetch8617history would prob say they’re best friends. Or roommates 😂
The guy has Matlock as a neighbor… it seems like he know more about the house then the guy that lives there lol
Pretty sus ...
So funny that you call him the Matlock neighbor 😂 love it!
I feel bad for the mother of the child, I know I probably shouldn't but I do.
I could see where what she's saying and it's probably true to a certain degree. The stepmother debbie, is probably the catalyst for all of this.
But that's not to say that the birth mother is a good mother. Probably full of bad decisions. But the birth father isn't exactly a success story either. Lives with mom and dad while he's 31 and his dad is willing to say he might have pawned some things in the home. Yikes.
So the grandfather seems to be more willing to see things for what they are, I hate to say it but hope he sees that Debbie has stepmother wife is wanting to be mommy and the most popular girl in school. That's just my take on things. Only from what I've heard so far. And I'm only halfway through the video. Maybe I'm sympathizing too much with the actual mother of the child.
I'm a little more than halfway through and now I can see where the mother of the child, yikes, she's involved.
I still stand by what I said about Debbie the grandmother-in-law.
I think Debbie is a right fighter and the fight was more between she and the birth mother of the grandchild. And Debbie has to be right. I can't help but still feel a bit bad for this girl, the real mom.
And he's way more on point than the cops
Dad's in shock a bit probably, good thing he had someone to advocate for his son, the cops weren't on the same page
I like how they tried to discredit right away the neighbor by saying that he's the shirtless neighbor next door and playing that he's some dumb white trash when he's the only one that has his shit together and it's on the ball. I don't know why that was appropriate to put there, to me that's like if one person was making sense in that person was black and everyone else was white and they said and then the black guy next door but it in with to me that's like if one person was making sense in that person was black and everyone else was white and they said and then the black guy next door added his two cents....
It's inflammatory for no reason! That guy is a hero
This new season of True Detective looks a lot better than season 4. Five minutes in and the guy without the shirt has already solved half of the case.
That neighbor is the kind of guy i want watching my house when im not home. Observant little dude.
She should have gotten more than 35 yrs. She lied about the father abusing his daughter, and she masterminded the whole plan. Its clear why Dad had custody, and the poor man died a terrible death
Agreed
County DA saw her remorse, lol. Otherwise it would have been LWOP.
@@encinobalboa It's interesting how many people show remorse for a judge but not when being interrogated over that same crime. Or when talking to friends before and after.
Yea I slept with him at first but I only thought of him as a friend... exactly why you don't sleep with women with kids like that.....she is why red pill stuff got popular with younger guys
Always way less than a man would get.
David never touched his daughter. That's why CPS "didn't do anything". I've been in that situation. I have a stack of letters from CPS stating "allegations of abuse unfounded". My ex has been attempting these lies against me so that she can get sole custody and relocate cross country. There's a reason david was awarded custody
Sorry you’ve had to go through that.
I know a friend of mine in UK who was accused by his partner when they split up. He was only allowed supervised visits in a controlled room and the mother got custody. Everyone that knew them knew it was lies. I don't know if the child said anything but the mother could be sweet as a nut and then turn on a sixpence in a mad rage like a thing possessed. I have no doubt the child was scared of her. The father was patient and years later managed to build a relationship with his daughter. But so much lost to a scheming witch of a woman.
They'll do anything to get custody not because they actually love the child, they just dont want to pay child support or see the man happy. We need more conversation around this
@robbylebotha we really do. This is such a common occurrence and these men just have to take it. As a woman and a mother, that pisses me off and more conversation is most definitely needed.
@@brettneygibbs9047 As a father I have a daughter that deserves justice. As a mother I have a son that deserves justice.
As a human I have another human that deserves justice.
Cop should have shut the crime scene down IMMEDIATELY after blood was found. Cops absolutely blew this case big time.
Small town cops I guess. You would have thought they would test it since someone was reported missing.
@@ChrisCarlin-is8wv Small town for sure but even I knew that was a crime scene. They didn't collect the blood until days later. They really botched it. Small town minds I guess!!
YES NO ONE WENT TO PRISON YOU COULD HAVE DONE BETTER :)
@@markmike7933 COULD HAVE SAVED DAVID'S LIFE PERHAPS???
@@markmike7933what? She got 35yrs, Dude got 75yrs, and the 3rd person got 15yrs🤷
Did the neighbor have his shirt off two different days 😂😂 i bet he's a really good guy.
The half naked neighbor's doing a better job than the cops.
I hate when the cop thinks he knows your family member better than you do. The cop saying he believes he just grabbed some stuff and took off is absurd when everyone who actually knew him is saying no somethings weird here.
Exactly 💯 💯 ❤!!!
crazy how the neighbor was basically spot on before there was any damning evidence pointing to kidnapping
Yea i think that neighbor heard or saw something, he was right on, but why wouldn't he say? Maybe he felt guilty like he shouldve done something?
I think a lot of civilians are becoming Columbus, watching all these true crime shows lol
@@vicvega3614he's either very smart in the true crime world or he did it
@@hannah3146 the neighbor? No the neighbor wasnt involved i think he did see part of what was happening like the fight or him being put into the car
@@bellaella2960Columbo
She didn’t question Frankie when he said he was going to take care of David? Yeah, okay. She knew everything. Shame on her for allowing the father of her child to be done in like that.
Who actually said that? Was it a 3rd party who overheard Frank say that? Or did the police make it up?
I'm assuming they made it up, hoping the suspects would confirm that hunch (to fit an element of the crime), because,
First they asked Kelly something like, "What did you think Frank meant, when he said, "I'll take care of it?'" At which point she said she didn't remember him saying that.
Then they asked Frank, "What did you mean when you said, 'I'll take care of it.'" At which point Frank said, "I don't remember saying that." Then the police said, "Why would Kelly lie to us?" as though she told them.
Either way, she knew exactly what happened because she was part of it!
He died a horrific death. But I feel really bad that she'll have no memories of mom passed down. Not for the mother, but for the daughter.
I'm sure Kelly loved her daughter, just not more than she loved herself and/or hated her ex.
@@wvrjl the texts near the end had something similiar i think.
Remember the Mother in law seemed to be like a bitch from hell. Mariah was being taken away from the real mother. Seemed like a conflict berween two women, and see how it ended for the two guys, the son and the boyfriend; one dead, one in jail. We men are better off away from women.
Listening to these accusations she's making, saying a 4 year old said her dad was doing these things, really makes me believe his family had reason to suspect she was coaching this child. Happens all the time.
EXACTLY. Plus, I totally understand why Debbie didn’t want the mom to ever see the kid. The mom looked like she was a TOTAL drug addict..
@@coryjohnson2486 and look at this dude that she was gonna have this child around. Hell no. And now the poor kid doesn't have her dad because of her own mother. Pathetic.
Right! David's family, Mom especially knew what was up.
Brothers gfs baby daddy was on video all strung out saying their daughter was saying bad things happened to her but she clearly was being told to say she was but they gave her 50 50 which shocked me
A 4 year old can say something...depends on what she supposedly said.
"No dude were not together like that... I just let him rail me from time to time." 🤷♂
To kill your child’s father is absolutely insane and pure evil
So selfish!
Welcome to the 21st century... If you are young now you are so Fu@ked. ..
😂these kind of comments are so funny to me. You have no idea what mothers go through in the Midwest/eastern/western/southern family court system and how illegal it should be to take a kid away from a mom. That mother fought so dang hard to get her kid back and ended up in prison over it and still lost. That dudes family sounded absolutely horrible and brutal. The MIL’s actions, statements and refusals to allow visitation should have been stand alone criminal. I sympathize with the mother who went to prison. She isn’t a cold blooded killer and wasn’t responsible for killing him in the desert. She had no other options, bad friends so she made less than smart choices.
That mom isn’t selfish; she fought for her daughter.
Side note: I bet you $100 that MIL made the mom out to be evil and never allowed their granddaughter to go visit the mom in prison or write notes.
@@ciaomamabella The mom is the evil one. She literally hatched a plan and murdered someone. Wonder why grandma didn't want her to see her daughter though, she was obviously a great person at heart.
@@ciaomamabellaok killer
It never ceases to amaze me how these tough guy, "you wanna make somethin outta it? I'll kick yer a$s" types just whine and cry about how tight the handcuffs are. Every. Single. Time. 😂
Because handcuffs hurt their vaginas
It’s a manipulation attempt
Probably so they will loosen them enough that they can worm out of them.
@@hiho8084Oh God. I'm so tired of people on body cam videos whining about how badly handcuffs hurt. I've been handcuffed twice and while it's not exactly comfortable, it certainly isn't painful. And I'm a fat guy with relatively short arms! It would only hurt if you struggled against them.
RIP David. Can't imagine being tied up to a tree under 100 degree weather just because your ex girlfriend was thinking about herself and not their daughter.
Just watched it.. didnt they cut him lose and left him with the pollow thing still over his head?
I mean long story short.. he got free but since he didnt know where to do he seem to went up on a hill (the picture they show in this video) and "died to the elements"
My head translates that to "he got free and thought he should go up on the highground to see where the next road or city is, while the better idea would've been to stick to the road and hope that he 50/50 on going more away or going hack to the main highway. What would've helped him even more would be to know some of the stars in the night, because just by knowing how to find the north star he would've had a way higher chance to survive.
The biggest question in the end is.... how much light was there from the moon and could he be able to find the sideroad for the 50/50 chance or not.
I'm german and even i would "know" that trees roots can be used to extract water from them. If you're living in that area and dont know what to do if you ever get losed in the dessert is really confusing to me. Do american staate schools not teach about the local area? In kindergarden the teachers told us how to call the police from a phone booth (back in the 90s).
@@DreaMeRHoLicno American schools just teach you history and how to add..I never paid attention,hell I thought huckleberry fin was tom Sawyers horse. *shrugs
@@DreaMeRHoLichow would he have been able to get to the tree roots and drink from them without any tools though?
@@DreaMeRHoLic Dude, most Americans are clueless about pretty much everything. Can't drive, think fruits just magically appear on grocery shelves (doesn't know they came from trees). We got AOC who doesn't know what's a garbage disposal. Yet, she's NY congress woman. Some can't even name a country that starts with U.
Schools DO NOT teach survival skills in school. Nowadays, they just indoctrinate you. Teach you about trans, woke stuff.
@@DreaMeRHoLic typical ass European with the "if i we/I can do it why cant Americans do it? doesn't matter if he was a trained navy seal the people who took him there against his will is responsible no matter what
The neighbor seemed more concerned about the son than his father did. Dad be like I think he took it and pawned it. Neighbor be like look slipper here, furniture moved, game on, wallet here, blood here and in cracks.... dad still down playing it.
Good for you neighbor!
Yeah, the cop couldn't make up his mind if it was blood & didn't try to get a sample immediately then left.
The dad doesn't know his a$$ from his elbow
Maybe the father didn’t want to think Soemthing like that happened to his son. Maybe he hoped that the son was just down out and did some werid stuff instead he has a dead son 😢
I as a parent would want to think my child was fine and nothing bad had happened to him so I kinda get the denial of the dad
Probably because the dad didn't want to think the worst.
Dude!!! That Mugshot of Kelly is HORRENDOUS. Goodness Gracious!
I would have to agree. What man would want anything to do with that face.
When the officer was talking to Kelley for the first time she said “He “was” the father of my daughter.”
He’s only missing so why is she talking about him in past tense?!
Right there proved she knows he’s dead.
I kind of agree. I still talk about close loved ones that are gone like they’re still here. :(
Wow!! That Neighbor hands down has to be the absolute BEST Neighbor Ever!! He seemed to be genuinely concerned about David’s safety and was extremely helpful, even giving the cops David’s car info so they could put a BOLO out.
Rumor has it the neighbor is a FBI undercover agent.
I doubt FBI with their reputation nowadays
😂😂😂
Nah… the neighbor seems to be a standup and honest guy, whereas the FBI has become nothing more than a corrupt, inept, dishonest political police force.
I think in the beginning the father said the neighbor was a private investigator
He is from the day's of Kojak, Columbo, Cannon and Magnum PI. ...
I love how the cops frequently assume that the victim isn’t a victim. The neighbor solved most of the case within the first interaction with his shirt off.
Because statistically they aren’t victims. If cops assumed everyone were victims they would be so bogged investigating every complaint that they would never actually be able to respond to people and have a multiple day respond time..
I know it sucks with how often it seems like it's all cases like this, but when millions of people are reported missing every year and 95% of the time it's people going to a party out of town for the week, escaping debt, living somewhere remote or starting a new life, police will often treat missing persons calls as non-serious unless it's been a while. Which really doesn't help as something like 99% of "serious" missing persons cases after 72 hours are either unsolved, or the victim is found dead. However, I don't understand how they don't immediately treat this seriously after seeing multiple blood spots in 2 different rooms
@@romanabbott3014 Yeah and if they'd stopped to pay attention to the all the signs that this was adding up to the 5% that's NOT 'out of town partyers' they might have checked the GPS on his car the same day and found David before he died of exposure.
So, while the father is missing, the first thing you do is go to court to get temporary custody of the kid? Yea, that is a GIANT RED FLAG.
"It's hard not being with my daughter right now while she's hurting." Meanwhile, you are the reason for her pain.
The mix of narrative, interegation, and body cam was a great package for exploring a case. Well done.
With all these newer cases having body cam makes it a way different experience. I hate to say i like it cause of topics covered, but for the story telling aspect i like it
Had me hooked from the very beginning
The fact he got custody instead of the mother speaks volumes. I don't trust her for a bit.
Yes ma'am you're absolutely right I agree 100% but I also don't think that the dad was worth much of nothing either in his thirties living at his parents that says a lot to me that poor baby girl
On this economy a lot of families living together. The guy had a job, a clean home, a support system and wasn’t in jail. A lot more than the mom or a lot of kids.
Not necessarily, both bad Moms and bad Dads have gotten custody because they had a better attorney and/or the Mom/Dad are master manipulator!
@@rhondawebb1993ricky is a beautiful name for a lady
@@rhondawebb1993 to bad you didn't know him. Then you would know if your judgement is correct...not that it matters, to anybody.
What a terrible way to go. That long drive knowing you're headed to your death in the middle of nowhere. Awful.
a bit like moving to germany :(
Excuse me !?!?!?@@richardcrighton8079
@@richardcrighton8079I didn’t have a bad experience when I moved to Germany. 🤷♀️
@@Tamara-tf8twGermany is actually Great. I know it may have a sorted history as does AMERICA
@@jeromepoole3067sordid ❤
The crime scene makes it so incredibly obvious what happened, especially when you have blood splatters and the family's PI show up saying how the ex's new boyfriend is a hell-bent psychopath with a massive rap sheet... Yet the cops still wanted to say "oh yeah he's probably pawning stuff he stole from his own house without his shoes or identification..." What morons.
I was expecting the neighbor to offer that cop a q-tip, to swab that grout.
She claimed he pushed past her, and she huddled in a corner because she didn't want to be there. She said he'd take care of it and she responded "I don't know what you're talking about, I don't want to talk about that", she puts a football field between herself and her actions. She's a true manipulator and liar from top to bottom. Her daughter has to pick up feathers and pretend her father dropped them from his angel wings because of her. She should have gotten life in prison.
Obviously the plan was for Frank to ambush the dude. It's not like Kelly knocked in the door and said hey it's me and Frankie. After she got the door open pretending it was just her, Frankie flew into action.
You’re right. If not for her this would not have happened
She's such a liar
@@platinum365 shes a good liar & manipulator. She was very believable at first . Except when Franks name came up ; her body language spilled the beans. She would mouth block, touch her hair , eye block etc.
She’s the biggest liar! She 100% knew what was going to happen and was involved and her roommate too! She helped kill him! She’s the monster! Thank god for David’s mother for protecting that little girl from that evil woman!
The neighbor is a BEAST!!! 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
The neighbor is such a beast I'm surprised the police didn't wonder if he was in on it. 😆😆
Love the neighbor, “maybe want to do a bolo” good little detective
What’s a bolo
A blade knife, much like a machete @@hillarybillary21
Be on the lookout. Bolo @@hillarybillary21
@@hillarybillary21 be on the look out
@@hillarybillary21cops BOLO for plates, car.
The neighbor was indeed very awesome. But, the Private investigator deserves credit, and the neighbor actually does say that he got his story from the investigator.
Both the dad and the neighbor could tell some violence happened in the home. But, they all three were predicting that after the costody results, something bad would happen with the mother and her boyfriend and david. The private investigator tied the story together, the neighbor relayed that story to the cops, and he even says "This is what the private investigator thinks happened..."
But, i don't want to take away from the neighbor's excellent detective work. He too knew what happened in that kitchen and garage.
Baffling that he(the PI) didn't have way more to say to the cops...
@@ryancampbell8645 i haven't re-watched the video, but if i remember correctly, the officer tells the PI something along the lines of "my partner is going to need to talk to you" or somehting, i think they even told the PI to meet them at the station at some point.
EDIT: At 7:31 you see the Cop tells the PI "We'll be in touch." and the PI says "ok"
so i guarantee you the PI and cops met later on to share details.
Also, and i missed this the first time around, but the PI wasn't hired for THIS case, he was hired for the custody case, so that might also be a reason why. Plus, during the time we see the PI on camera, the bodycam keeps cutting in and out, as if they're skipping scenes. They may have redacted much of what the PI had to say on bodycam.
@@tirkentube That’s a very thorough and thoughtful analysis. I appreciated it.
@@slgordon3 thanks. i get bored sometimes.
That super sleuth neighbor reminds me of Chris Watts neighbor...there’s always ONE in the neighborhood...thankfully 😂
Fr tho😮
Kelly strikes me as a very good liar. She almost had me believing that the father was a pervert and his mother was a psycho, in hindsight of everything that happened it's obvious she made up those allegations about the dad and she manipulated Frank into committing the murder. Nonetheless, Frank chose to basically torture the guy to death by leaving him out in the desert like that so he may actually be the more evil of the two.
Yes!!! For a good portion of the beginning, I was buying her story for real. She was very smooth with the lying!!
She got me till the first half too
I agree
When a detective says "you're gonna help us find the body" ur f cked
I'm still not so sure about David, he has his parents and their finacial power behind him in the custody battle, especially Debbie is more then a red flag. Frank is a POS and Kelley is obv very dumb/shady hanging around guys like Frank. But yeah, I see this as a case of a woman wanna start in new life with her child, and the childfathers parents, Debbie, intervened. And at that point David was the puppet and Debbie was pulling the strings. The results were her dead son, multiple people in prison and a child growing up without knowing her real parents and the real story. Sad.
dudes, please... dont be desperate....whenever you meet a woman and she start about an abusive ex or a custody battle....run and never look back
they always find an idiot to solve their problems.... and will always play the victim...
Seriously…
@@veronicafior2714Yes people whining on about their exes are a red flag. They are doing it to manipulate your emotions 🚩
Truth!
Many people, men and women, have been caught up in a abusive relationship. You're literally victim blaming 🤢
100% correct. Even though narcissism is a fairly rare disorder, somehow every woman out there will tell men that every one of their ex boyfriends were ALL narcissists. On top of that, it is remarkably common for women to claim that their ex’s were ab-usive.
Whenever I hear the ab-use claims from women now, I ask them what the police had to say about it. In my experience, this question always results in a look of confusion. Well if the guy actually did what they’re claiming, then it’s only common sense that she would contact the police over it. Of course the police were never contacted. Remember, if a woman tells you that all of her previous 7 boyfriends all mistreated her, what do you suppose she’s going to tell people about YOU when/if you break up???
My post might sound like victim shaming; it is not. My post is about how ridiculously common it is for women to paint their ex’s in the most horrible ways possible; including false accusations.
When asked about what things they might have done wrong in previous relationships, the response is that they were always the perfect partner who never, ever did anything wrong or made any mistakes of any kind; EVEN when the woman cheated!! “Well, it’s not MY fault he made me cheat on him!! If he would have shown me more attention, I wouldn’t have been FORCED to cheat on him!!” Btw, yes I actually had a woman tell me that
My nephew was just ambushed, tortured, murdered, and buried in cement last summer. Went missing and the cops were like...so??? Finally we find out a girl he liked lured him to the apartment and her kids dad met him w a gun butt to the face, then 8 hours of torture, with a 6 & 8 yr old in the house. Here in Colorado, she is already out for agreeing to testify, we are praying to see actual justice for the killer.😢😢
I am so sorry for the loss and pain you have had. May justice prevail so you and family can start to heal.
Oh my God what a monster 😢I'm sorry so so sorry
So sorry to hear that happened.
I’m sorry for your loss. Karma will handle her
Wow!! Why in the heck is she out even if she agreed to testify, she lured him! I'm so sorry for your loss. Such a shame.
The Neighbor- guesses the ENTIRE crime/murder, down to how they entered with NO SHIRT and probably a Busch Lite.
“Seasoned” Police Officer- “my GUESS is just that David RAN OFF somewhere and didn’t want to be found after stealing from his parents
This is an example of how people with a peppered background can make way better detectives! Just keep them out of the evidence room.
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Clearly the "mom in law" was RIGHT abt this kelly girl. And very accurate to be so concerned.
My goodness.
Blood everywhere & the cops left without doing anything or collecting evidence
Right. He's like "it's just drops not spray." Oh ok then so no crime.
I would assume they called the crime lab. The cops don't process the crime scene smh
@@ellybean5868 the first day the cops were there, even with the dads worry, that cop dismissed the blood.
@@truthfullyme7416
The 2nd day too when they were talking with the black private detective, the blood was still there, the dad even took them there and expressed a deep concern, they then left again without doing anything
@@ellybean5868
They didn’t call anyone, the blood was still there the 2nd day when the mom and the black detective was there, again nothing was collected.
You think people walk around their homes bleeding ?
The shirtless neighbor 🤣🤣🤣 I bet he watches a lot of True Crime
I’m so glad that little girl has David parents and didn’t end up with this evil pos of a mother
I’m 3 minutes in and want to know how these cops didn’t immediately secure the house as an obvious crime scene!!
Because clearly David turned his cell phone off and ran away in the middle of playing a video game, without his shoes or wallet and must have hit his head in the kitchen and had a bad nose bleed in the garage.
@@allanshpeley4284 To try to keep the father and neighbor calm, I can understand in principle... but what a stupid set of circumstances to try that in. I'd have told the guy not to insult my intelligence.
Ughhh the way they all kept walking back and forth and back and forth through the entire house and over tons of possible evidence had me 😬😬😵😵🫨🫨
Frank got no game. Welcome to the friend zone, where it’s always freezing, tomorrow is always Monday and you’re always driving someone to someone else’s custody visit. 😎✌🏻
Friendzone? She admitted they had sex at least a dozen times.
@@RichardWagner-hi4zn. Friends with benefits, then. But that’s still only a friend.
There had to be a reason that David was granted custody of the child. After seeing and hearing the mother and seeing the people she hangs with I completely understand.
Obviously you have too much faith in our system.Look at it this way.4% of people on death row are innocent.That being said it is possible for family court to grant the abuser or not good parent custody.It happens.Also they live with davids family.Family court will get statements from them.If his family talk trashes her in court it will give him better results.This is why monsters in law should stay away from custody battle unless its for benefit of cgild.My brother went through this.Wife became addicted to pain meds after a medical condition.Grandma took custody her mom.She was sent to treatment and relapsed through 5 year spand.she was 11 at time.My brother took all classes nessesary cause he had to pay the price of losing custody cause of addict wife.took him 5 years to get her back.My brother even seperated at one point and monster in law didnt want to give him custody.She punished him for what happened to her daughter.My brother works 2 jobs and never did drugs.And didnt deserve it.Im not saying this lady is innocent but if they didnt get along and mom in law could have done things out of spite.She inserted herself into their battel and held it over her head.And if it was done unjustified as a mistake from judge it can drive a person into insanity.Remember she said she wanted out his parents house.And they wouldnt allow it.she was married to his family not him.
I just had that exact thought.
Drugs
Yep you are who you hang out with is very true!
Usually women have to behave really, really badly to lose custody. It shouldnt be so easy to lie about the dad and get an upper hand. Things need to change in these conflict type of situations. Often dad is the best suited to be a parent, its bad for society at large.
Kellys voice just matches her face to a “T”
😅😂😂
I was waiting for someone to say it…. Face and voice =ogre
😂😂😂😂 sho does
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Ok the neighbor is the real MVP😂😂 my man basically took over.
The neighbor who pretty much solved the case I think he said he was a private investigator in the beginning of all of this. He pretty much took over the whole conversation and told who, when, what child custody is always so messy when other people get involved. You have David who was killed, and the daughter lost both parents in a sense. It’s really sad that the two of them couldn’t have handled this on their own to come to a peaceful solution.
Her whiny voice when she is confessing is incredibly annoying. Trying to sound like a six year old is NOT going to save you, honey.
I hate that too. She deserves to remain in prison for life
1000% so annoying
Yes, and the first interview with cops she talked non-stop and the detective could hardley get a word in, she kept yapping talking over him and interrupting him, geeze how annoying 😮
I'm looking forward to never hearing her voice again.
The initial conversation was like all complaints and whining about something that wasn’t even relevant honestly. Just looking for sympathy.
The fact that he kept saying "I'm not that cruel" takes the cake
Tbh, he sounded dumb as a rock. I can almost believe he thought that David would make it out.
This is a perfect example of one of the major problems with law enforcement. That cop made his mind up that the son was a criminal and nothing was going to change his mind. This is exactly how false confessions start out, among many other unjust actions.
It is a problem, but keep in mind (and I know, speaking ill of the dead...) David had a relationship with Kelley, the drug-addled liar and manipulator we watched in this video; David quite likely wasn't a saint himself, and if that is true then it's a bit of "the boy who cried wolf" here with the cop's reaction here.
I've got a neighbor like that. Dude drinks my beer, feeds my dog treats, and borrows my tools.
It's good to know if I ever get in to trouble, hell probably solve the case!
Thank you so much for including subtitles (plus context!) to the video! Like really! Some much bigger channels don't ever bother with that and it's frustrating because interrogation videos often have bad audio and are hard to understand.
Great job, keep it up, I'm subscribing :)
Liars always talk over the questions they don’t want to answer.
it's so true. i see it ALL the time...
So do narcissists
Welp using words like always, never, or all calls for absolution which makes your statement automatically false.
@@jeromepoole3067 I can’t argue with that.
@@jeromepoole3067the definition of the word "absolution" is forgiveness/release of guilt so I believe that you mean it calls for the use of absolutes. Also, it doesn't automatically make the statement false. It makes it a generalisation, a fair and/or reasonable presumption. You clearly enjoy arguing semantics so I'll join in too. 😄
This is one of the best interrogation + case analysis videos in a while. To the point but still some added details and commentary, chronological and easy to follow. Well done
10 bucks it was the neighbor who told the family member who told David's mom that David was gonna have a kid 😊
Shirtless neighbor has been around. Life experience has him being a great detective.
So she was big shot calling sending hits but the detective raised his voice one time and she buckled😂 embarrassing
Anyone with a bit of Common Sense would know the most likely scenario. She was begging frankie to take him out for a very long time and he finally gave in. It doesn't take much common sense to know that's most likely what happened. I highly doubt he was asking her, please let me kill this man for you, please let me kill him for you. I doubt that's what happened. If you have a brain in your head you wouldn't believe a word she says.
remember, she said she was equally a hostage in the vehicle and feared for her life. very believable lady lol
It's frightening how many women who lose custody seem to throw this vile accusation of child abuse around. Once it's proven unfounded the women should face charges, something needs to be done, it's disgusting.
Absolutely!!!!
Yea I've dated no less than 5 women who used that excuse as the reason for last breakup. 3 have either tried to triangulation me against their exes in this manner or have done so to myself. We underestimate how many are like this and would do this if others were to agree to go along with it.
Yeah but the problem is the real victims usually get killed. My ex tried to kill me when I was 7 months pregnant, he dragged me across a gravel pit, hit me with a bat, stabbed me with a knife, and tried to run me over. They let him have 30% percent custody because the violence wasn't towards her yet. He's almost killed is both twice.
You're right. This happens way more than people think. Even though women account for more child abuse cases then men do, fathers are never believed when mothers through those accusations around. The fact that they always get accused during child custody hearings and never before the custody hearings should be the first red flag that she's just doing this to get custody. The justice system is fully against men.
@@kiwiconnection3580 idk man if 5 or more women are accusing you of child abuse its gonna look like you're abusing kids 😳 its a crazy conspiracy to think 5 or more women are all plotting against you
The dad shirt "im not trying to be difficult" is so funny
The pen clicking from start to finish!! If I was there I’d slowly reach over and take the pen and put it in the table, purely just to tell them enough is enough, without speaking a word to them 😂
100% agreement about the pen. It's always an indicator someone is an idjit.
I've never watched one of these where the officers botched it worse, this is awful. Poor guy, his family and the neighbors really tried to get him help quickly.
I live in this same county and mf'ers are slow to act when needed as a rule apparently
Oh man, you need to see the one with the meth addict in the trailer that hacked up his cousin! The body was IN THERE, they were IN THERE, the dude was TRYING to tell them he did something bad but it was all meth addled. There were jugs of BLOOD on the counter and blood all over the floor. A gun even! He’s essentially begging them to listen and they just took him in and came back later to the family having called them because they found all the blood and stuff. Then they allowed the family to continue cleaning/finding blood evidence and they were moving the evidence. Took them 2 visits to find the body!
Old blood splatter expert should have called the feds
It’s spatter
Right?? Amal town cops nearly bungled the entire investigation! No gut instincts, no alarm bells, blood doesn’t look like blood! They need better training!
@@AidaShawJ.D.That first officer just kept saying he thought David stole stuff and simply left. I'm thinking he should be taking this crime scene seriously and collect evidence.
Right what freaking idiots
she's a really really really good liar.
I thought that too. She is really casual about it, it's natural to her.
I’d be a terrible detective because I totally believed her after first interview.
@@saradavis6505no me too. I think some of that “motherly love instinct” stuff was real, but she enhanced it by making everyone else involved look like the bad people instead of herself
No she’s not, anyone agreeing better go back and watch, a good liar can keep stuff straight, she literally contradicted herself in the first interview and the interrogation she said he was asking her to come over, and sent pictures showing his dad wasn’t home she said she responded with (okay) then in that same breath says she went to sleep and woke up to see msgs asking her to come over and the pictures of the garage and stuff, she said she then texted him asking him what’s this all about, I mean the list goes on with the contradiction within seconds and minutes of each other. Ppl got so hung up on her talking about her kid, that’s why they didn’t hear all the stuff she said that made no sense. She talks about them getting along but it’s the parents in the way, and blah blah blah, yet later brings up him touching his daughter, excuse me but I wouldn’t be talking so nice about the person I believe touched my kid, she was talking about them wanting to be with each other, but he lives with his parents and they wouldn’t allow her there, she only brings up the allegations of touching when the detectives start harder on her and she’s being backed into a corner, now she wants to make him look bad to take the focus off her. That’s why you know it’s a lie and he didn’t touch his daughter, that’s only brought in when he files for custody and she knows he’s going to win. I guarantee she had a drug problem, she looks very different from that photo of her and David. She was definitely not mother of the yr, for the father to get full custody there is something with her we aren’t being told. She never says anything about herself, just all David and his parents.
@@bambilackner100% she was all over the place. “We get along” “he touched my daughter” was weird.
The neighbor, No Shirt Sherlock, is the kind of guy every law enforcement agency needs to have on hand.
Lmao that nickname is amazing. I love it!!!
You win best comment on this vid.
You stole that comment.
How did it never occur to the officer to secure the possible crime scene?😮
I’m wondering the same thing! There’s blood, his car is gone, his wallet is there, the video game is paused, phone turned off, like…cmon fellas!
*Frank told him “Shes not doing anything, shes a hostage too…. Then he let me out of the car and i called my friend” hahaha Yikes. The amount of BS she threw was egregious lol*
Yea I came here to say she's completely full of 💩
Egregious!
It’s been awhile since I’ve heard that word. Well done.
Yeah he said “I’ll kill you both” and then let’s her go on the side of the road…. As if.
Thank you someone else who catches her saying one thing and a second later contradicting what she just said, so many ppl saying she’s a good liar and I’m like wait, we’re you listening to anything she said or you just heard her talking about wanting to be a mom and it was so believable that’s all you heard.
Whenever a det. says "just so ya know, you don't have to be here the door's right there", you should never just sit there like this woman did. Get up, get out, and get a lawyer...
Unless you're the culprit, then by all means stay a while and chat
If your guilty, you need a lawyer, if your innocent, you REALLY need a lawyer.
People are so afraid that, by ending the interview and procuring a lawyer, they will make the police suspicious... well, that may be true, but if you're sitting in front of a detective, it's too late-- they suspect you already. You cannot outsmart a cop if you're guilty; if you're innocent, you may end up convincing them you're guilty.
@@TheNewRobotMaster agreed!! I'd go crazy without any new cases to watch
I’ve seen plenty of interrogations where this is said and the perp tries to leave or make excuses to leave and the detectives always come up with reasons why they can’t, or just straight up deny them.
It’s always interesting to see interrogators walk right up to the “we can help” line and stop. “We can work through this” is such an empty statement.
They just let her talk. It's alway seems to be a decent strategy since they typically mess up somewhere.
I thought they went over the line. It sounded like they blatantly promised her...especially mentioning the DA was there. That's usually no Bueno and will often get a confession tossed.
@@dukedematteo1995they didn’t give her any specific promises or guarantees they just vaguely said they can make things easier for her
@@dukedematteo1995they are allowed to lie, esp when someone's life is in danger
@ellybean5868 they can lie, but they can't explicitly promise something.
It really doesn't seem fair that Frank got 75 years while Kelly only got 35. At least he thought he was punishing a pedo and didn't intend to kill him.
What a horrible tragedy.
Why would the whole neighborhood be invited to contaminate a crime scene before crime scene investigators
Bc the cops immediately made their minds up that the only crime was a son stealing from his parents. How wrong they were. Law enforcement has WAY too much power and WAY too little accountability.
Crime Scene Investigator wasn't called by cops until days later
@@FlyingSquellyep they were useless. They wrote him off immediately as a junkie on a bender. Even ignoring blood and all the other evidence that something else happened.
The cops knew the neighbor had it solved. Tbh, the cops were lucky the perpetrators were as dumb as they were.
That neighbor was not letting them leave without making his points very clear. Bless his heart, I know what this level of consern feels like when you're trying to stay calm while also trying to advocate clearly how urgent those concerns are.
The beginning of this video is heartbreaking 😢
Yeah, they can get all agitated sometimes. I was trying to help a rookie cop once and he was freaking out, I had to kind of gently deescalate for him because he was really about to lose his shit. Thankfully he didn’t get too crazy about it but he was acting really ridiculous at first and clearly didn’t know how to handle the person he was arresting.
The Ho Ho Ho picture of the girlfriend is hilarious 😂
Did deputy doofus insinuate that since there were only “drops” of blood and not “sprays” there’s no crime scene? Or did I hallucinate ?
So to be clear the allegations that the child’s father acted inappropriately in any way were just down to the mother’s wicked lies?
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The parents and the neighbor are good detectives!