Tiger 800 - Coolant change
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Please never delete your channel or delete this videos. They're such an excellent resource for working on these bikes, especially considering what the dealerships charge to perform these easy to do services.
They make me £30 a month, why would I take them down 😂😅
@@MuddySump You never know!
Just did a fluid change on a 2011 Tiger 800 ABS - your video made it easy!! Thanks.
I have just done a coolant change yesterday with the help of this video. It was super helpful, but I have done the things a little differently. The clamp on the hose you used to drain was hard to remove (it was not worm type like yours) so I have done it through the heat exchanger (as per the manual).
Also your bleeding procedure was a lot easier. I had to shake the bike quite a bit before it took the required coolant
👍🏻 they changed the clamps to clips on later models and all the newer bikes now. Can be a bit of a pain to get off sometimes. You can get some special pliers for them but I just use some water pump pliers
Thanks for the excellent video. I'm confident to do my own flush now.
No problem 👍🏼
Just did my coolant for the summer! Thank you for this video!
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On my 2012 Tiger 800 XC the bleeder screw is just a plastic screw with a philips head on it. No hex head. It was a pain in the ass to remove so I called the parts guy at the Triumph dealer and he says you don't really need to take that screw off, just press the hoses and you'll be good to go.
It’s the same plastic screw in the video. You need to have a good fitting screwdriver or you’ll just turn the slots into a circle
@@MuddySump im an idiot. i was watching on my phone outside when i was working on it. i thought yours was a hex head since you had the socket wrench! thanks again for the video. i did it without taking out the bleeder screw so hopefully it'll all be ok!
FABULOUS video! as always.
Thanks Toe Knee
Great Video As Always Really Looking Forward To Your Last Series On The Tiger.
RSM8.
Thanks
Great video, thanks for posting.
Thsnks
Job done. Thank you.
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Good explaining video, thanks!
Thanks, it should be the same procedure on your bikes too
Great video! Thanks for sharing.
No problem, thanks
this video is perfect. thank you!
Thanks
you learne some thing every day thanks good clear easy howto vid
Thanks Badger
Very useful video !!! Thanks a lot ...
Thanks 👍🏼
Nice vid, very simple and clear :-)
Thanks, that's how i try to make them
Well off needing to do this but thanks for the how to 👍🏻
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Hello, I did this procedure 2 times successfully ... but when I did it 3 times and started the bike, I started to smoke from the head gasket ... I turned off quickly ...
I think the water is not getting in the engine, could you tell me what you think might be
Was it not just a bit of spilt coolant burning off the engine or exhaust somewhere when it was getting hot? If it is leaking at the head gasket then the gasket needs changing.
yes, and that's right .... the liquid fell a little on the exhaust ..... thanks for the tip ....
I got scared !!!
What if after you fill the expansion bottle to the minimum mark and run the bike until the fan comes on, the coolant level rises on its own to the maximum mark?
You’ve got air in the system or the radiator cap isn’t working properly
@@MuddySump if I could bother you to ask another question, how would I go about getting the air out? Squeezing the air hose does not release any more bubbles
@@wyattcooper2041 When its ran up to temperature and the fan comes on it should pull the water from the expansion bottle into the radiator. If it's going up and down all the time try a new cap
Hi great videos very easy to follow even for me. Just a couple of questions on the coolant change I have a tiger 800 xrt. I didn't have a bleed plug on the radiator also I ran the bike for 4/5 minutes after the coolant change but the fan never kicked in. The reason I changed it as it overheated on the rolling thunder ride in London. Is there a way of knowing if the fan is buggered? Keep up the good work! Cheers Alan
Hi Alan
Can take longer than that for the fan to come on. Has to get to 103 degrees Celsius. You could put 12v straight to the fan and it should spin then.
Hello, is it the same operation for the Tiger 900 gt ?
Thank you.
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I haven’t worked on them but probably around the same.
Hello. I am writing from Turkey. I own a 2016 model Tiger 800. I can't find the original coolant here. Is there a brand you can recommend as an alternative?
I only use the original coolant to keep things simple. If you change type or colour you’ll have to flush the system through. It’s probably got the old green oat coolant in your bike. It’s changed to a pink colour now
i have a tiger 955, i remove the water pump hose and only comes very litle water and the expansion reservoir still full!!! very crazy because first time i do this all the water came out
+RbG84 did you take the radiator cap off?
no this was the problem, i didnt have time yet but i need remove the gas thank ? pain in the ass for simple task... :( the car was more easy
So two bottles should be enough for the whole system? The radiator and the expansion tank?
Yes
Another question, will using Engine Ice void out my 2-year manufactures warranty form Triumph? Cheers
+ULTIMATEJOE7 possibly but can’t see how they would tell. Triumph parts have to be used for service to keep the warranty
Do you have anything showing how to flush all the coolant out (since I am changing coolant types)?
Just use bottled water
Great video, thanks. I've just got a 2020 Tiger Sport 1050....I guess it'll be a similar process?
Thanks. Yes, it’s all the same idea. The only difference on the sport is that there’s another bleed screw at the front of the engine on the left side. Little 10mm head with a copper washer. The coolant shoots out when you take the screw out. I usually use a small funnel to direct it to the drain bowl
@@MuddySump thanks, that's great to know. Why would you think they have 2 bleed screws...just cos it's a slightly bigger engine...or different internal design being a triple?
@@mikebrook8500 they’re all triples. Think it’s just the way the engine is. Xl couldn’t all drain out of the one part. The explorer engine is the same
@@MuddySump oh, fair enough. I'm new to this Triumph lark, so learning all the time, been on Harley's for last few years 🙂 so your videos are a great help.
I did the change exactly as in your video. I am not sure how much fluid you drained and how tired in. I only managed to get around two liters. the manual said there supposed to be 2.4 liters. where did 0.4 liters go? before flushing all levels were as they supposed to be. after changing there were no bubbles.
+bigmankz that's about right. I always only use two bottles. Don't know where the other .4 is. Must be if it's been a total strip down
Thanks a million. I also was wondering what are the connectors you have on the left side of the radiator? I have 2013 800XC and it does not have any connectors or wires there.
Heated grips are on the left. Fog lights on the right
@@MuddySump Thanks for this confirmation. I was able to get in only 2L. Using Evans Prep Fluid - 2L in and out, and Evans Powersports Coolant after again only 2L. Dunno know where remaining 0.4 are ... (empty everything possible) ... Thanks for the video. It looks easy, but if you have skidplate (not original) and crash frame make this `easy` job a lot of harder :-P But just say'in
@muddysump how do you do a complete flush to change coolant type? Thanks!
Flush it through with water
Thank you! Helpful!
Do all British men mumble?
Just the ones who hate hearing their own voice and find it awkward talking to a camera 🙃
Hi Muddy just purchased a 2013 Tiger 800 xc - question is the coolant cap off when you run the engine to bleed the air or no?
I meant the reservoir cap.
No. It’s got a breather/overflow pipe on it
Hi Muddy is the reservoir cap off when you run the engine to bleed the air or no?
No. Need to reply to this one too otherwise it will stay on the list to need replying to
@@MuddySump thanks man. I was just curious how the air bleeds from the system if there’s no way to escape when you first start the engine after initial coolant fill. I just picked up a 2013 Tiger 800 xc in North Carolina and these videos are incredible. Thank you for your attention to detail.
Hi MuddySump
I'm about to change coolant fluid for the first time on my own on a '15 800 XCx
When the fluid is drained does the reservoir fluid also drain into the radiator and from there down the hose? If not, how does one drain the reservoir?
I'm going to use Engine Ice, which is glycol, and I don't want to mix the current coolant with the new one.
Thanks in advance and I love your videos!
The reservoir will drain with the radiator. I used Engine Ice in my track bike and had to be 100% sure to get ALL the anti-freeze out. I did an additional fill and flush with distilled water between the initial draining and Engine Ice fill.
Thanks!
The flushing with distilled water was done for track compliance or to avoid a chemical reaction?
Regd Engine Ice - Did you see a difference in the engine heat?
For track compliance. You would be fine to skip that step if you want.
I *feel* like it runs cooler? I can run all day in quite warm temperatures and I never notice the bike getting warm. I've heard others make similar claims. Again, this is under track conditions though where heat is often an issue we don't run into on the street.
Thanks for the info. Much appreciated.
I didn't use the Tiger on a track but in warm days it takes 2 minutes of traffic or standing to get the engine heat to go up.
I'm hoping the engine ice is a better heat conductor
Riding slow single tracks in the woods also heats up the engine very quickly. It really likes speed since then the air is cooling it down properly.
I think that Triumph has designed a radiator which is too small and/or it is inefficient.
I rode KTM 1190 and 1290 and their engine heat never moves above the center
hi muddy ,flushed ,the triumph coolant out and filled up 1 and three quarters through the filler cap but want take any more put the rest in expansion tank .ran for ten minutes, stayed on 5 bars but fan didn't kick in .When should the fan kick in ,and do you think I've a air lock as had to put rest in expansion tank , thanks for vids great
+Wolfman fan comes on at 103'c never looked at what bar it is on the dash but probably close to coming on. Should run it for 30 seconds, take the cap off, top up radiator then top up expansion bottle. Then let it run till the fan comes on and goes back off. The level shouldn't move in the expansion bottle when it does but it might pull a bit back into the radiator when cooling. Can top up expansion bottle again then
Cheers mate 😊
any video for triumph explorer diy servicing?
Hi. None explorer specific. I used to own the 800 so did them on my own bike
+MuddySump ..thks bro
Hi Thanks for Video dont you nerd to wait u till engine warm so that thermostat opens as well ?
How do you fill Expansion to max?
Thanks
You run it till the fan comes on then top up the expansion bottle.
MuddySump how long do ya think it should take for the fan to come on? My bike is up to temp and the fan never kicked on.
Lee Causey takes a while. It comes on at 103°c
MuddySump thanks. I was starting to get worried. I'll crank it up and let it run for 20 mins or so and see if that gets it to kick on. I'm a little worried my thermostat is shot. I was on a trip this weekend and I fell over. In doing so the reservoir cap popped off and I dumpped some coolant. I topped it up with water because I had no other choice. The rest of the weekend it would start flashing that it was overheating and the check engine light would come on. I was freaked out at first then I found if I just turned off the bike and cycled the key it would read normal again but still have a check engine light. Then after a while the light would go off. It seemed really random when it would indicate that it was overheating but would always reset after cycling the key. Strange.
This may sound a daft question but what makes the hoses turn a brownie colour , the reason I'm asking as I've a 2013 model and the hoses are turning the same colour as yours
No idea. I’ve seen them look like that from new
Its normal because of rubber Temperature you ned to change que hoses when your colant start to get ruber parts debre or changin color of the culant
Triumph recommends performing the coolant change about every two years? Coming from owning all Japanese bikes theirs was roughly every year. I am coming up on a year with daily riding(TigerXCX 2017). Muddy sump, is it safe to say I should have the coolant changed?
Thanks Cheers!
+ULTIMATEJOE7 it’s three years for the coolant, two years for the brake fluid?
good video :) I should probably be my bandit.
Thanks. Every bikes pretty much the same.
What's the working temperature for Tiger800 ? I have always seen 5 bars on the console and haven't seen the fan turned on.
+shardul naik 90 degrees is operating temperature. Fan comes on at 103, goes back off at 101
MuddySump thanks :), is that somewhere around 6 bars?
My fan turns on after the bike idles on the 6th bar for about 45-60 seconds
Hi Muddy, got a question... i've replaced the original coolant through the rad, topped up level in the bottle, went for a ride, everything's fine, no overheating, but as i got home i've touched the bottle and coolant is cold. is that normal, could the bottle be blocked, or something wrong with the thermostat? thanks in advance
That’s right. It shouldn’t get hot
@@MuddySump Nice one, cheers buddy
Is this process roughly the same for the 1200. Do you also have to wait for the coolant fan to come on first before checking the level in the expansion tank? As if you follow the manual it just says at room temperature and level which if it is that then I don't have any coolant in the bike but it doesn't overheat.
There’s a screw at the front of the engine you have to take out to drain the coolant in the explorer too. Have a drain pan ready cause it shoots right out towards the front wheel. It has to run till the fan comes on when you’ve done a coolant change. That must just be to check the coolant normally
nice video. I Only got one problem though. the Triumph coolant is pretty hard to come by. Local dealer dont sell the Triumph coolant (hd4x Hybrid oat) instruction manual recommends.
Triumph dealers are the only shops that sell it. What do they use at your shop? Not sure what can be mixed with it. Might be better to flush the system and use something you can get
+MuddySump My local Triumph dealer dont sell the Triumph coolant (hd4x Hybrid oat).
They have Motul Motocool (YELLOW) or Castrol Radicool SF (RED),. They would use Castrol Radicoool SF, but i am not convinced. I have done some searching on internet and some say valvoline zerex g-05 is good match.
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Im about to do a coolant change on my DRZ, and since im going from one brand coolant to another, i need to flush my system.
Some people say only use distilled water, but do you think its alright to just use tap water to flush, and then refill with my premix coolant once finished?
It's better to just cause it's not good for the metals. What you can do though is fill the kettle with tap water and boil it first. Let it cool down before you pour it in
Thanks for the reply.
Did you mean to put something different btw?
your wrote 'Its better to just cause' Im guessing you meant its better to just use distilled water?
Cheers.
yes, was talking about the distilled water :-)
Alright mate ill use distilled to flush then. Thanks MuddySump
Also
If you would want to work on my DRZ (ive messaged you via email before) could i send you a few different jobs that might need doing for some quotes?
Cheers