Thank you David, I build gas powered bikes. I am going to get one of those as soon as I have the money. I am riding a 79cc on a Schwinn cruiser right now. I too have no car. Ride safe.
You can't go wrong with this bike! I've had mine 6 months and it is so reliable!, I have the red white and blue one, I'm going to put a Coleman 98 cc nxt spring!, finish it up stock till then, but I Love my Phatmoto, all terrain bike, I spend 2,25 on gas for the week to get to eork!
I got my phatmoto when they first come out no instructions and no videos at the time. I called ATV and motorcycle guys asked them what is the top chain drive slack what's the minimum to maximum chain slack. Many of places all said better to be to loose than chain to tight. I run 1/2" min. - 1 and 13/16" max chain slack. Running the drive chain too tight or even to snug will make peddling the bicycle almost impossible and will wear chain and gears down. My bike governor bypassed, taller BMX handle bars - for standing up to put weight down when pedaling, submerged throttle cable in oil and installed - that made a difference, installed soft throttle spring - that helped, max torque clutch recomended by Beau Brummel - made a big difference, drilled side cover for oiling clutch and cooling, baby powder with talc in tires for long life, brake levers with brake locks and big rear sproket coming for all off line and big hill pulling! Just want more bottom end power not worried about top end. I plan to drill and tap with greese fittings front wheel, rear wheel, front down tube, pedal crank shaft, jack shaft for ease of lubricating bearings.
I had a problem with my pedal rods stripping the crank where it bolts into the crankshaft with the allen key, no matter how tight i got that bolt it was allready wore out and would have wobble, so to solve problem get a welder and weld it to the shaft on the back side and weld the bolt to from backing out, its supper solid now and you can pedal as hard as you want.
I agree! But if you Weld it together you won't be able to lubricate the bearings that are inside and eventually It will be really difficult to peddle at all. I had to change the entire pedal assembly on an electric bike I had but with this one I don't think I've had to take it apart yet... you're absolutely right though the pedal on the left side CONSTANTLY comes loose. Right now I'm using locktite and lock washers 😅.
I like that air horn, quite unique and is most important. It is imperative to be able to alert cars or people. Good advice on upgrades and nice bike, well done. It is a good platform, with upgrades and proper maintenance it will perform.
@@daviddawson574 You are welcome and you did good, good advice and good upgrades. You might be surprised a lot of owners have no idea of what it takes to maintain and keep these bikes road worthy.
@@beaubrummelmotorizedbicycles Yeah I figured that most of us are kind of piecing it together and figuring it out as we go along. That's why I made the video to help other people too with what I have already learned.
@@beaubrummelmotorizedbicycles there is no real owners manual to give you detailed instructions on what to do so we have to make one as a community. And there are discrepancies... like the manual that comes with the engine says to use 300 mL of oil but the Phatmoto website says to use 590 and so I put mine at about 400 ml and that is enough for me. It's things like that that we need a comprehensive guide as a community and that's why I want to contribute and try to help the rest of the world, you know?
I have a 212cc Preditor in the box I was going to use on a trike. It will fit that frame with a little rubbing on it. I think that's what I am going to do.
Thx for the great video. Wanting one of these too. Expected to make some upgrades but worth it. Love the black but I'll get flattened for sure. Thx for the links!
Damn I have the all-terrain one it seems to be doing good I had it for 3 weeks but I broke the pedal bolts inside the shaft I think I still have warranty so I want to talk to them and see if they can give me a new shaft and pedals
Lol I was just thinking i never heard of a 12 tooth freewheel. I have the 19 model it came with a 18 dropped it down to a 16. Highly recommended. I can helping it all the way up to 30mph now.
How do I know what max torque clutch to get? I have the 2022 phatmoto with the Hilliard clutch and I'm not a big fan of it cuz idk how to maintain it really MT clutch seemed easier to grease up than the hilliard
You have to research what size clutch the 2022 model uses... make sure the bore or "inner diameter" hole fits correctly, and that the number of teeth are the same. Then it will fit. I can only tell you the size of the 2020 model (probably the same), but your best bet is to research and then match the specs.
i have this bike, and every single nut bolt and screw needs to be locked tighted, not sure if its just my bike but fuel leaks into the crankcase and contaminates the oil, but i think i messed my carb up so not sure if it was me or if i bought it like that, the forks suck, the crank shaft foot pedals constantly get loose at those big allen wrench screws, and spring tensioner works awsome on this bike, i like how you hooked yours up, a 44 rear tooth sprocket is perfect balance of speed and power compared to the stock 50 tooth. the front forks suck really bad. the entire bike as a whole is over still awsome, have had so much fun on this thing and for 80cc its has allot of tourque, i wish there was a video of some 100 or 110cc engine mods. i also seem the newer pahtmotos got huge tires. ive had a hillard extreme duty clutch and a max torque clutch, everyone was saying hilliard was better, mh experience is max torque is sooo much smoother in taking off. also i was able to put hydraulic disk brakes in the front but in the rear i domt think one will work cuz the posistion that the hyraulic cable comes out will chafe against the disk brake disk, i couldnt find and hyraulic bike break that has the cable coming out on the oppisite side, it seems all manufacture make them the same, if you know of any can you please let me know.
I do not know of any hydraulic disc brake that will work personally. I'm sorry but I have been fighting with my bike to get it to run consistently. I was driving it about 17 mi a day from about April to December but I just bought a house which is much farther away so I ended up buying a car {period} the only real trouble that I had with mine after all the upgrades is the jack shaft {period} it wore out on mine I don't know if it's because of my body weight but I bought
Four or five jack shafts before I finally started welding them together and because the small sprocket kept wearing out. I would definitely recommend THAT if I could make another video and I might make a one-year video later showing all the upgrades that I've done
@@daviddawson574 Thanks for the heads up about the Jack shaft I haven't put too many miles on mine and I still have the original and it's been good so far I will have to keep an eye on that thow.
OK, why the tension spring on the final drive chain? The Phatmoto does NOT have any rear suspension, and as such, it doesn't flex. Set the rear wheel for 1/2 inch static play, and leave it alone. (If your aluminum frame DOES flex, it will break, and soon!) My Phatty doesn't flex. Yours shouldn't. Oh, thanks for the info on that Crackberry back wheel. I figured they were standard 6 hole disc brake drilled. Since I have access to a metal lathe, mill, and a drill- press, and have some extra discs, I can drill my own rear sprockets out. My Phatmoto REALLY needs some gear change. Feels like I'm in second gear. But, I can beat most cars through the intersection. steve
Hey Steve! To answer your question directly the 415 chain was driving the tensioner wheel downward along the steel bracket continually and causing me to have really violent take-offs, so I tightened the tension wheel down so much that it stopped sliding BUT my rear axle on the standard wheel gradually was torn apart. So then I bought the Mag wheels on Bikeberry, but I also added a tensioner wheel lever to the the whole system to give me smoother take-offs and to allow play on the 415 chain to protect the rear axle and Jackshaft from excessive wear. It works much better for me now 😁! Also, I can beat most cars through an intersection at a green light, but I DO wish that my engine would produce a greater overall top speed lol. I'm stuck going at about 20mph everywhere to try to extend the life of the engine, and so those cars normally pass me pretty quickly.
@@daviddawson574, you have the 12 tooth sprocket clutch, try adjusting the governor. Mine does 35, at full speed. I've had mine for about a month, and have seen no riding issues. Wheels and sprockets are just fine. steve
I went to the hardware store and bought long bolts, a bunch of washers, and lock washers. Plus I used locktite. It's held for me, just use equal spacers.
never hought bout goin up w the spring. nice. i feel a kindred spirit. i run same rims and tensioner... hookworms but i dig ur red grips. just loose the guard heat split my hilliard extrem duty clutch fyi you jet ur carb?
I can't pedal my phat moto bike I do a lot with the engine off and up some hills. But once when I tried tightening the drive chain a little too snug. I could barely pedal it 12 foot on flat ground. The tighter the chain the more power it robs, wear on bearings, sprockets and chain. It's better to be too loose than too tight.
Dude I got 120 decibel horn And I can't hear it over 66cc. Stays charged forever and it's good quality it'd be good for an e-bike or a bicycle but not a motorized bike.
Just aim it at forward and use it to alert traffic that you're coming. It's better than nothing I think. I want the "Loud Bike" car horn, but it's pricey 😁.
That's a tricky question... I found a couple solutions to that problem. 1- Check the slack on your 415 chain (the big chain from your Jackshaft to the wheel sprocket). The 415 chain should have between ¾in to 1¼in slack max (online says 1" slack max but I give mine an extra quarter inch). If you have too much slack there ( driving will cause the chain to PULL the tire forward ) then that excess slack will create the rumbling shakiness that you're experiencing during takeoffs. To solve THAT problem, loosen your tire and slide it back to increase the tension on the 415 chain to the recommendation. *CAREFUL* Too much tension will cause wear on your Jackshaft and/or destroy your rear wheel axel, so don't make the chain too tight. The "Green Zone" should be ½in to 1¼ inch slack or so.
2- Oil your clutch. I upgraded from the stock clutch and so to oil mine all I do is use a dropper bottle to apply 10W30 on the space between the clutch shaft and the clutch bell everyday after I get home from work. Then I'm good for the next day. Or, you can take the clutch off completely and clean it (phatmoto made a video of how) and oil it that way too. I do THAT more thorough method every month or so. But either way, you need to add oil to the clutch shaft regularly. That causes vibration also. I actually cut a bunch of air holes for venting my clutch in my plastic chain guard and I use one of those holes to apply oil everyday. Those two methods combined ought to virtually ELIMINATE your rumbling during take off bro 🙂.
@@melvincortes7134 be careful with having your chain too tight. When you're going at full speed I suspect that the centrifugal force the chain is exerting is destroying your tire axle and Jack shaft. I've replaced both on my bike so far so definitely don't do too tight. However, if it is too tight then I would deduce that the rumbling is coming from your clutch. Take apart your clutch and oil it and then reassemble it and put it back on and see if that does not get rid of the problem. Make sure you let the oil set for 30 minutes to 1 hour before you drive again 😁.
I'm sorry you're right I have been lagging it haha! I have to show you all the upgrades that I did to the machine but in the interim I ended up buying a car and refurbishing it also 😅. I will do my best to get a new video up for you guys and I will tag you in it so that you can see everything I've done to my bike 😁.
I took my fitting out of the gas tank to cut down the hose barb some for more room I have the 2019 model. I used the liquid white paste Teflon it will seal almost any fuel and high pressures. Using the white teflon tape on gasoline will eventually leak. I wouldn't use plastic fittings on gasoline when I can use a metal fitting but to each is their own.
I think it'd be a good investment if you just do all the suggested mods maintenance is easy and with a tool kit you can do all the work very simply! It's a great purchase!
@@daviddawson574 thanks for your response thinking about getting 2020 version but people were saying bad reviews about the clutch and that gas tank leaking
@@motorizedbicyclerider5296 I got mine off Amazon while they were still on sale there but you can get one off the Phatmoto website I believe still or if you just Google "Phatmoto Rover 2020" you can see all the retailers and compare prices. Be careful who you buy yours from and check reviews of the website BEFORE you purchase to make sure that you get your shipment on time. As far as the clutch is concerned I read the same thing and upgraded my clutch to a Max torque Clutch- for like $35 (link in description). And MY gas tank doesn't leak except for the gas cap when not fully screwed down but I upgraded my gas cap also with a petcock cap off eBay (ab $25 total). I ride mine ab 17 miles a day and it works great so idk why anyone would avoid it 🤔.
@@motorizedbicyclerider5296, the clutch is actually pretty good, once you figure it out. you can get about 2,000 miles out of it. I wouldn't Sprint for the max torque clutch. For the people that complain about the clutch, don't mean to be the d word but it's a user and issue. You basically just need to drop a couple drops of 3 in 1 oil in the right spot before every ride some clutches every other ride. Then they work beautifully.
Chain tensioner is supposed to be under the chain pushing up, not above pushing down. As it is, the chain can jump off the sprocket much too easily. Not safe.
I've ridden this bike for 15000 miles and that has never happened before. I drive a car now but but that is simply not true! I've already addressed that point in the comments. It's a chain TENSIONER, so how could the chain jump off the sprocket under tension?
Because you're pushing the chain out, centrifugal force pushes it out more, chain looks too tight as well, probably why it hasn't come off. Speaking from 50+ years bicycle and general mechanical experience. Not saying you're an idiot, or anything of the sort, just want you to be safe.
@@alloriginal62 If that's the case, then pardon me... I only made this video to help other people and if that is what is accomplished by you sharing your expertise then our collective work is accomplished! The original pulley wheel was sliding down the bracket with tension on the chain, causing the chain to jump repeatedly. I believe that the bracket was of cheap manufacture and would buckle under pressure. So my solution was to buy a new tensioner wheel and arm, a recliner spring off of Amazon, and a pipe clamp, and to jerry rig a new tensioner at the BOTTOM of the bracket where it could not fall anymore lol! It's not perfect, and now I do know WHY the tensioner should be mounted high... but it IS an effective solution in a pinch. My bike still works even now, although I have it locked away. I bought a car lol! Thanks for your addition to this video... we ALL need to learn more. I'm about to add a few new projects to this Channel to help people. 1: Biomass Gasifier with filters and generator build (along with capacitor) for cheap energy manufacture at home. 2: DIY hydroponic Carolina Reaper setup. And 3: Farming rabbits for meat Industry I made! You can see all that on my channel in the coming 12 months!
I honestly had no intent to offend you. I built my first two stroke bike this summer, and I am now an enthusiast. Ran across your video while researching Phatmoto, as I am about to pull the trigger on a 2022 Rover,( as soon as I decide on color) and already planning a Predator 212 swap, after the 'new wears off'. Your bike looks great, love to see people getting into the hobby. Keep up the good work, and stay safe.
Honestly, I drive a 2014 honda accord now, which is why I haven't made an update video yet. I bought a house and I'm kinda busy. That being said, I rode this bike for a year or more, well over 15,000 miles to work, with the parts that you see in this video (along with an upgraded/welded jackshaft). The featured/invented chain tensioner is still on the bike, and it still works. I'll use this bike to walk my dog. What, exactly, is inherently incorrect or "wrong" about the position of the chain tensioner wheel? If it has worked all these years, why is it broken, again?
GREAT REVIEW!!!! You convince me to not ever buy this bike. Bike is a nice concept but the quality of parts on it do not make it worth $1000.00!!!! You had to replace half the parts on it. What a joke! Better off building your own bike with parts you know will last.... Great review! Best, Michael M.
Lol that wasn't the intended effect but I'm glad that you found it useful! Mine still works but I did pay around $1600.00 to make it "fail-proof" lol. Good luck man!
Haha I have a 1 year review that I'll be doing soon (hopefully) and I'll attach a link or something... It still works, but I would DEFINITELY suggest some customization lol!
I used a 66cc two stroke but always ended up greasy and smelling like premix. The four stroke is nice and reliable and doesn't smell as much, but at $1,000 all in, you can build a center drive e bike yourself and go about 40miles to a charge.
*2022 Update video here: ruclips.net/video/x57wIpyW8ns/видео.html *
Thank you David, I build gas powered bikes. I am going to get one of those as soon as I have the money. I am riding a 79cc on a Schwinn cruiser right now. I too have no car. Ride safe.
You can't go wrong with this bike!
I've had mine 6 months and it is so reliable!, I have the red white and blue one, I'm going to put a Coleman 98 cc nxt spring!, finish it up stock till then, but I Love my Phatmoto, all terrain bike, I spend 2,25 on gas for the week to get to eork!
I got my phatmoto when they first come out no instructions and no videos at the time. I called ATV and motorcycle guys asked them what is the top chain drive slack what's the minimum to maximum chain slack. Many of places all said better to be to loose than chain to tight. I run 1/2" min. - 1 and 13/16" max chain slack. Running the drive chain too tight or even to snug will make peddling the bicycle almost impossible and will wear chain and gears down. My bike governor bypassed, taller BMX handle bars - for standing up to put weight down when pedaling, submerged throttle cable in oil and installed - that made a difference, installed soft throttle spring - that helped, max torque clutch recomended by Beau Brummel - made a big difference, drilled side cover for oiling clutch and cooling, baby powder with talc in tires for long life, brake levers with brake locks and big rear sproket coming for all off line and big hill pulling! Just want more bottom end power not worried about top end. I plan to drill and tap with greese fittings front wheel, rear wheel, front down tube, pedal crank shaft, jack shaft for ease of lubricating bearings.
I put a tail light on mine.
Also a speedometer. Front light too.Horn was a great idea
Also with the Max torque clutch you don't need to oil it like the stock one it has a bronze centered bushing with oil impregnated in it.
I had a problem with my pedal rods stripping the crank where it bolts into the crankshaft with the allen key, no matter how tight i got that bolt it was allready wore out and would have wobble, so to solve problem get a welder and weld it to the shaft on the back side and weld the bolt to from backing out, its supper solid now and you can pedal as hard as you want.
I agree! But if you Weld it together you won't be able to lubricate the bearings that are inside and eventually It will be really difficult to peddle at all. I had to change the entire pedal assembly on an electric bike I had but with this one I don't think I've had to take it apart yet... you're absolutely right though the pedal on the left side CONSTANTLY comes loose. Right now I'm using locktite and lock washers 😅.
Yea was my left side to but aftet the welds it feels super solid,
I ride mine 15 miles per day weather permitting. Never had a problem. I also have a bike cargo trailer for groceries.
I like that air horn, quite unique and is most important. It is imperative to be able to alert cars or people. Good advice on upgrades and nice bike, well done.
It is a good platform, with upgrades and proper maintenance it will perform.
Thanks man! That means A LOT to me because I did my best!
@@daviddawson574 You are welcome and you did good, good advice and good upgrades. You might be surprised a lot of owners have no idea of what it takes to maintain and keep these bikes road worthy.
@@beaubrummelmotorizedbicycles Yeah I figured that most of us are kind of piecing it together and figuring it out as we go along. That's why I made the video to help other people too with what I have already learned.
@@beaubrummelmotorizedbicycles there is no real owners manual to give you detailed instructions on what to do so we have to make one as a community. And there are discrepancies... like the manual that comes with the engine says to use 300 mL of oil but the Phatmoto website says to use 590 and so I put mine at about 400 ml and that is enough for me. It's things like that that we need a comprehensive guide as a community and that's why I want to contribute and try to help the rest of the world, you know?
I have a 212cc Preditor in the box I was going to use on a trike. It will fit that frame with a little rubbing on it. I think that's what I am going to do.
Got some of those wheels coming. The tube that came with the bike started leaking before I even rode it
List upgrades and websites to buy them in notes below video. Give overall-cost with upgrades. What is max mileage with one tank of gas?
You get 100 miles a gal.
im going to see if a Honda gx100 engine will fit. are you using E10 fuel?
I use 91 from any gas station. Seems to work fine.
Thx for the great video. Wanting one of these too. Expected to make some upgrades but worth it. Love the black but I'll get flattened for sure. Thx for the links!
Great review guy! I'm thinking of getting one of those bikes and the info you give is extremely helpful.
Next video show how the bike takes off without the spring and then with the spring.
Nice! What YT videos are meant to be! Well done.
good video. so replacement parts are available. whats the purpose for pedaling bike just for emegencies. 100mpg very impressive. cost of bike?
thank you for this video brother. stay safe and god bless you.
And you as well, sir!
I’m buying one tomorrow a yellow one and I want to upgrade he engine at least go 35/40
Mph
Hey If you get it up to 40mph let me know your mods man, I have one but it only goes 33
@@asura8236 I sold mine I bypassed the governor got up to 30 and keep shattering the back rim went through 3 rims in 1 week
Damn I have the all-terrain one it seems to be doing good I had it for 3 weeks but I broke the pedal bolts inside the shaft I think I still have warranty so I want to talk to them and see if they can give me a new shaft and pedals
98 cc Coleman motor, with a Pz 22 carb!, will give ya what you need!!
@@asura823698cc Coleman motor with a Pz 22 carb, will doing it guaranteed!
That's a great looking machine!
Thank you!
No link for the grips??
Lol I was just thinking i never heard of a 12 tooth freewheel. I have the 19 model it came with a 18 dropped it down to a 16. Highly recommended. I can helping it all the way up to 30mph now.
I would love to have one of them
How do I know what max torque clutch to get? I have the 2022 phatmoto with the Hilliard clutch and I'm not a big fan of it cuz idk how to maintain it really MT clutch seemed easier to grease up than the hilliard
You have to research what size clutch the 2022 model uses... make sure the bore or "inner diameter" hole fits correctly, and that the number of teeth are the same. Then it will fit. I can only tell you the size of the 2020 model (probably the same), but your best bet is to research and then match the specs.
How you get the rems to work
I ordered them then put 2.35" wide tires on them I think. They sell them on Amazon.
Where can i get that seat?
Good job on upgrades!
i have this bike, and every single nut bolt and screw needs to be locked tighted, not sure if its just my bike but fuel leaks into the crankcase and contaminates the oil, but i think i messed my carb up so not sure if it was me or if i bought it like that, the forks suck, the crank shaft foot pedals constantly get loose at those big allen wrench screws, and spring tensioner works awsome on this bike, i like how you hooked yours up, a 44 rear tooth sprocket is perfect balance of speed and power compared to the stock 50 tooth. the front forks suck really bad. the entire bike as a whole is over still awsome, have had so much fun on this thing and for 80cc its has allot of tourque, i wish there was a video of some 100 or 110cc engine mods. i also seem the newer pahtmotos got huge tires. ive had a hillard extreme duty clutch and a max torque clutch, everyone was saying hilliard was better, mh experience is max torque is sooo much smoother in taking off. also i was able to put hydraulic disk brakes in the front but in the rear i domt think one will work cuz the posistion that the hyraulic cable comes out will chafe against the disk brake disk, i couldnt find and hyraulic bike break that has the cable coming out on the oppisite side, it seems all manufacture make them the same, if you know of any can you please let me know.
I do not know of any hydraulic disc brake that will work personally. I'm sorry but I have been fighting with my bike to get it to run consistently. I was driving it about 17 mi a day from about April to December but I just bought a house which is much farther away so I ended up buying a car {period} the only real trouble that I had with mine after all the upgrades is the jack shaft {period} it wore out on mine I don't know if it's because of my body weight but I bought
Four or five jack shafts before I finally started welding them together and because the small sprocket kept wearing out. I would definitely recommend THAT if I could make another video and I might make a one-year video later showing all the upgrades that I've done
@@daviddawson574 Thanks for the heads up about the Jack shaft I haven't put too many miles on mine and I still have the original and it's been good so far I will have to keep an eye on that thow.
OK, why the tension spring on the final drive chain?
The Phatmoto does NOT have any rear suspension,
and as such, it doesn't flex. Set the rear wheel for 1/2
inch static play, and leave it alone. (If your aluminum
frame DOES flex, it will break, and soon!) My Phatty
doesn't flex. Yours shouldn't.
Oh, thanks for the info on that Crackberry back wheel.
I figured they were standard 6 hole disc brake drilled.
Since I have access to a metal lathe, mill, and a drill-
press, and have some extra discs, I can drill my own
rear sprockets out. My Phatmoto REALLY needs some
gear change. Feels like I'm in second gear. But, I can
beat most cars through the intersection.
steve
Hey Steve!
To answer your question directly the 415 chain was driving the tensioner wheel downward along the steel bracket continually and causing me to have really violent take-offs, so I tightened the tension wheel down so much that it stopped sliding BUT my rear axle on the standard wheel gradually was torn apart. So then I bought the Mag wheels on Bikeberry, but I also added a tensioner wheel lever to the the whole system to give me smoother take-offs and to allow play on the 415 chain to protect the rear axle and Jackshaft from excessive wear. It works much better for me now 😁!
Also, I can beat most cars through an intersection at a green light, but I DO wish that my engine would produce a greater overall top speed lol. I'm stuck going at about 20mph everywhere to try to extend the life of the engine, and so those cars normally pass me pretty quickly.
@@daviddawson574, you have the 12 tooth sprocket clutch, try adjusting the
governor. Mine does 35, at full speed. I've had mine for about a month,
and have seen no riding issues. Wheels and sprockets are just fine.
steve
That seat looks quite comfy.
Can we get another vid of the geese maybe a update
ruclips.net/video/wNIGqKxev50/видео.html
That’s neat.
NOICE BIKE BRO!!(= very good info and good job on the upgrades, my only criticism is PLEASE keep the camera still 🤮!! Stay safe&happy!!😁✊🔥
Lol I'll try dude!
@@daviddawson574 don't know why that was posted twice lol hmm dam YT check my bike out if interested bro its a 212 suped up!!(=
This bike is so cool btw
Thanks so much! It's really awesome I have it as emergency transportation lol!
I have one to ride to work on summer days . Imma get those wheels for my bike and the kevlar tires. I have an all red phatmoto
what did you use for your spacer with your sprocket
I went to the hardware store and bought long bolts, a bunch of washers, and lock washers. Plus I used locktite. It's held for me, just use equal spacers.
never hought bout goin up w the spring. nice. i feel a kindred spirit. i run same rims and tensioner... hookworms but i dig ur red grips. just loose the guard heat split my hilliard extrem duty clutch fyi you jet ur carb?
Can you pedal this bike a normal bike with engine off
I can't pedal my phat moto bike I do a lot with the engine off and up some hills. But once when I tried tightening the drive chain a little too snug. I could barely pedal it 12 foot on flat ground. The tighter the chain the more power it robs, wear on bearings, sprockets and chain. It's better to be too loose than too tight.
Dude I got 120 decibel horn
And I can't hear it over 66cc.
Stays charged forever and it's good quality it'd be good for an e-bike or a bicycle but not a motorized bike.
Just aim it at forward and use it to alert traffic that you're coming. It's better than nothing I think. I want the "Loud Bike" car horn, but it's pricey 😁.
what kinda exhaust u thinkin?
agk sent me new airfilter insert and carb jet.. plus 1 h.p. told 1 more withexhaust manifold
I'm not sure yet lol! I haven't added one myself... But I'd like to 🤔
Good review, thanks
Mine got puncture and I cant really patch it cause the tires are so thick
I use puncture proof Kevlar tires that I bought off Amazon so I've never had a puncture 😵
What can I do better to calm the vibration especially on take off?
That's a tricky question... I found a couple solutions to that problem. 1- Check the slack on your 415 chain (the big chain from your Jackshaft to the wheel sprocket). The 415 chain should have between ¾in to 1¼in slack max (online says 1" slack max but I give mine an extra quarter inch). If you have too much slack there ( driving will cause the chain to PULL the tire forward ) then that excess slack will create the rumbling shakiness that you're experiencing during takeoffs. To solve THAT problem, loosen your tire and slide it back to increase the tension on the 415 chain to the recommendation. *CAREFUL* Too much tension will cause wear on your Jackshaft and/or destroy your rear wheel axel, so don't make the chain too tight. The "Green Zone" should be ½in to 1¼ inch slack or so.
2- Oil your clutch. I upgraded from the stock clutch and so to oil mine all I do is use a dropper bottle to apply 10W30 on the space between the clutch shaft and the clutch bell everyday after I get home from work. Then I'm good for the next day. Or, you can take the clutch off completely and clean it (phatmoto made a video of how) and oil it that way too. I do THAT more thorough method every month or so. But either way, you need to add oil to the clutch shaft regularly. That causes vibration also. I actually cut a bunch of air holes for venting my clutch in my plastic chain guard and I use one of those holes to apply oil everyday. Those two methods combined ought to virtually ELIMINATE your rumbling during take off bro 🙂.
@@daviddawson574 I think my chain might be too tight actually..
@@melvincortes7134 be careful with having your chain too tight. When you're going at full speed I suspect that the centrifugal force the chain is exerting is destroying your tire axle and Jack shaft. I've replaced both on my bike so far so definitely don't do too tight. However, if it is too tight then I would deduce that the rumbling is coming from your clutch. Take apart your clutch and oil it and then reassemble it and put it back on and see if that does not get rid of the problem. Make sure you let the oil set for 30 minutes to 1 hour before you drive again 😁.
@@daviddawson574 thank you so much bro.. Really appreciate your help..thanks again.
Noice setup bro cool.ride safe .
Very nice 👌!!!
oh yeah change ur jackshaft bearings before u have to sledgehammer the old ones out from freezin
I have been looking for a long time..what is the oil change interval?
I change mine 1 a week or every other week when i forget lol
@@peterbrown1277 I do mine once every 500 miles
Update please!
I'm sorry you're right I have been lagging it haha! I have to show you all the upgrades that I did to the machine but in the interim I ended up buying a car and refurbishing it also 😅. I will do my best to get a new video up for you guys and I will tag you in it so that you can see everything I've done to my bike 😁.
Nice i like it
the acceleration isnt too bad on these
You got a RUclips channel! Fuck yes!
Can I convert it to hydraulic brakes?
I think you can! I did a bit of research and I think it depends on the hydraulic brake system that you buy but I don't see why not honestly.
Thanks for the quick reply. I appreciate it.
Nice
ur gastank leak? mine does
Mine did i just replaced the petcock from metal to plastic since it is threading into an aluminum frame
I took my fitting out of the gas tank to cut down the hose barb some for more room I have the 2019 model. I used the liquid white paste Teflon it will seal almost any fuel and high pressures. Using the white teflon tape on gasoline will eventually leak. I wouldn't use plastic fittings on gasoline when I can use a metal fitting but to each is their own.
Your from north carolina?
I lived in Atlanta for 10 years lol! I got some good, deep south values while I was there though 😁!
Where did you get the wheels from?
Bikeberry.com I think... There is a link in the description 😁
Will the 2020 rotor bolt directly on Everytime I ask about it from gas bike or the phatmoto site they say no
@@williamparker110 I am not really sure, man. I don't understand the question, but mind you I am an amateur with limited knowledge lol
Nice looking bike 🚲 especially the rims it
Hey how you doing today thinking about buying this bike
I think it'd be a good investment if you just do all the suggested mods maintenance is easy and with a tool kit you can do all the work very simply! It's a great purchase!
@@daviddawson574 thanks for your response thinking about getting 2020 version but people were saying bad reviews about the clutch and that gas tank leaking
@@daviddawson574 did you get yours from gas bike.com
@@motorizedbicyclerider5296 I got mine off Amazon while they were still on sale there but you can get one off the Phatmoto website I believe still or if you just Google "Phatmoto Rover 2020" you can see all the retailers and compare prices. Be careful who you buy yours from and check reviews of the website BEFORE you purchase to make sure that you get your shipment on time.
As far as the clutch is concerned I read the same thing and upgraded my clutch to a Max torque Clutch- for like $35 (link in description). And MY gas tank doesn't leak except for the gas cap when not fully screwed down but I upgraded my gas cap also with a petcock cap off eBay (ab $25 total). I ride mine ab 17 miles a day and it works great so idk why anyone would avoid it 🤔.
@@motorizedbicyclerider5296, the clutch is actually pretty good, once you figure it out. you can get about 2,000 miles out of it. I wouldn't Sprint for the max torque clutch. For the people that complain about the clutch, don't mean to be the d word but it's a user and issue. You basically just need to drop a couple drops of 3 in 1 oil in the right spot before every ride some clutches every other ride. Then they work beautifully.
Nice bike
Your spring looks like it bottoms out in the rest position not 100%funtional
Chain tensioner is supposed to be under the chain pushing up, not above pushing down. As it is, the chain can jump off the sprocket much too easily. Not safe.
I've ridden this bike for 15000 miles and that has never happened before. I drive a car now but but that is simply not true! I've already addressed that point in the comments. It's a chain TENSIONER, so how could the chain jump off the sprocket under tension?
Because you're pushing the chain out, centrifugal force pushes it out more, chain looks too tight as well, probably why it hasn't come off. Speaking from 50+ years bicycle and general mechanical experience. Not saying you're an idiot, or anything of the sort, just want you to be safe.
@@alloriginal62 If that's the case, then pardon me... I only made this video to help other people and if that is what is accomplished by you sharing your expertise then our collective work is accomplished! The original pulley wheel was sliding down the bracket with tension on the chain, causing the chain to jump repeatedly. I believe that the bracket was of cheap manufacture and would buckle under pressure. So my solution was to buy a new tensioner wheel and arm, a recliner spring off of Amazon, and a pipe clamp, and to jerry rig a new tensioner at the BOTTOM of the bracket where it could not fall anymore lol! It's not perfect, and now I do know WHY the tensioner should be mounted high... but it IS an effective solution in a pinch. My bike still works even now, although I have it locked away. I bought a car lol! Thanks for your addition to this video... we ALL need to learn more. I'm about to add a few new projects to this Channel to help people. 1: Biomass Gasifier with filters and generator build (along with capacitor) for cheap energy manufacture at home. 2: DIY hydroponic Carolina Reaper setup. And 3: Farming rabbits for meat Industry I made! You can see all that on my channel in the coming 12 months!
I honestly had no intent to offend you. I built my first two stroke bike this summer, and I am now an enthusiast. Ran across your video while researching Phatmoto, as I am about to pull the trigger on a 2022 Rover,( as soon as I decide on color) and already planning a Predator 212 swap, after the 'new wears off'. Your bike looks great, love to see people getting into the hobby. Keep up the good work, and stay safe.
Your chain tensioner is not good it should come from the bottom and lift up on the chain not push down on it.
Honestly, I drive a 2014 honda accord now, which is why I haven't made an update video yet. I bought a house and I'm kinda busy. That being said, I rode this bike for a year or more, well over 15,000 miles to work, with the parts that you see in this video (along with an upgraded/welded jackshaft). The featured/invented chain tensioner is still on the bike, and it still works. I'll use this bike to walk my dog. What, exactly, is inherently incorrect or "wrong" about the position of the chain tensioner wheel? If it has worked all these years, why is it broken, again?
GREAT REVIEW!!!! You convince me to not ever buy this bike. Bike is a nice concept but the quality of parts on it do not make it worth $1000.00!!!! You had to replace half the parts on it. What a joke! Better off building your own bike with parts you know will last.... Great review! Best, Michael M.
Lol that wasn't the intended effect but I'm glad that you found it useful! Mine still works but I did pay around $1600.00 to make it "fail-proof" lol. Good luck man!
uhh nice jack shaft
Chinese say “”GO, GO, GO, NO STOP!!! I lived in Asia for a couple yrs. lol
120 sounds like jail boot camp! Just say 3 months😂😂 dope bike neither the less
Haha I have a 1 year review that I'll be doing soon (hopefully) and I'll attach a link or something... It still works, but I would DEFINITELY suggest some customization lol!
@@daviddawson574 that’ll be great bro. I’d like to check it out. I like motorized bikes. And you’re bikes cool Asf 💯
Exposed sprockets and chains look dangerous.
The cover is on the ground there... I just took it off to demonstrate the upgrades done.
Yea I thought it was cheap transportation but all the upgrades kill the joy it’s a good looking money pit 💩
It cost me about $1400 so far. I ride it to work and I've earned over 20k with it already so mine has been well worth the investment 😁
David Dawson you’re upgrades look good and I’m glad to hear it was worth it I don’t ride mine every day so no real problems ✌🏻❤️🍀
I used a 66cc two stroke but always ended up greasy and smelling like premix. The four stroke is nice and reliable and doesn't smell as much, but at $1,000 all in, you can build a center drive e bike yourself and go about 40miles to a charge.
Once you go mags, you don't go back!
If only you didn’t say “Uhh” or “Umm” so much….but good video.
I'd probably be a news anchor somewhere or hosting the emmys. Alas, my destiny is much less glamorous (selah)...
Ahhh
All i heard was “ummmmmmm”
Too much coffee dude..slow down
Lol I'm drinking coffee right now reviewing these comments 🤣🤣🤣. Update video coming soon!