DCS: Growling Sidewinder DCS Set up Video.
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
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My Computer Specs Including Head Tracking and HOTAS Throttle/Joystick:
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HeadTracker: Trackir5
Thrustmaster Warthog stick and Throttle.
So a lot of people have been asking me for a set up video since I started the channel well I finally made one, This is my set up with the thrustmaster warthog HOTAS and the Winwing stick and throttle, we also talk a little bit about my trackir set up and my thoughts on trackir vs virtual reality hope you guys like the video and a big thank you for all your support guys. you're the best.
Also guys, keep in mind, you don't NEED to go to this extent to run DCS, I obvs have a channel and I have to take things to a certain standard to provide decent content so I find myself going for the best stuff available. You don't need to sink this amount of money into DCS to get a good experience out of it.
I just got into DCS world for the first time because of you, and crashed my su25t trying to land lol and yes with my keyboard
True, I m still playing DCS with Keyboard... heck i m playing with keyboard since the Flankers 1.5 days. Nowadays I have a great spec PC but have decided to years back to buy the Thrurtmaster 16000M Stick and Throttle but no luck yet waiting for a Black Friday Sale.
What kind of money realistically would I need to spend to just get started?
@@futrell8643 you'll need a good computer, thats gonna be the bulk, and then you buy trackir when I got it it was like 120$ and then a simple 50-70$ stick and throttle, and then a module in DCS you want to learn, example hornet is like 80$. so like 300$ should get the ball rolling if you have a decent computer already.
@@futrell8643
I don't have trackIR and im using a $15 dollar joystick. A fa18 on sale is like 30 + 15 for the joystick and i have only payed 45 for a great experience.
Whoever told you to get rid of the clicking mouse gave you bad advice. Half the reason I watched the tacview portion was for that sweet sweet mouse and scroll clicking.
ahahah maybe i'll make some videos of nothing but mouse clicking
Whoever was complaining about the clicking from his mouse in tac view needs to grow up. Getting free entertainment from a talented DCS pilot and you're going to cry about some clicking on the review? Wow. Thanks for the content GS.
Even if the clicking wasn't bothering me, what's the problem, if the complaint was in respectful, constructive manner? And thumbs up to GS, for listening to the feedback.
I actually found the mouse clicks during tacview kind of had an "asmr" affect on me. I'll miss it.
@@bigfutus it's a childish complaint in my opinion.
Its not a complaint. Its bitching
@@titan14baseball agreed
Ahh one of the few good things about winter is that GS retreats further into his snake den and pumps out more of these amazing videos. Thank you for sharing this, it was a real treat to finally tour Sidewinder Operations Center.
ahahah many more to come buddy, hope you're doing well. we got lots of snow down here.
@@GrowlingSidewinder Yup I'm doing well, there's only about 8-10cm snow here. If you're in the region that I think you're in then yeah, you all got wholloped with snow and cold temperatures. I've got family all over that.. 'region'.. lol. My Dad mention he has 20+ cm of snow on his lawn.
Transit ya man it's absolutely brutal can't believe it came so early this year. Well that's Canada for you I guess lol unpredictable as always
Somebody that doesn't even play flight sims recommended this channel for me! Its that good! I am addicted to this content.
just ordered my TrackIR5 direct from naturalpoint ... couldnt be more excited to add this to my setup
"set up" bro got a whole military grade buttons and nobs in front of him. im still trying to pull hard g's on a xbox controller.
You truly deserve all this, keep up the good work
I'd love to hear a head to head comparison of the Winwing vs. the Thrustmaster stick/throttle combinations...or if you'd pick, say, the T-master stick and the W-W throttle.
There is absolutely no comparison. WW is on a par with Virpil and VKB, Thrustmaster Warthog is an expensive paperweight
I just started into DCS and IL-2 and I am using a T16000m with TWCS throttle and it is highly recommended for a beginner. I do not have trackIR yet but I am using SmoothTrack on my cell phone camera and for $10, it works wonders.
Just found your channel, it's already one of my favorites! Great work, thanks!
thank you and welcome to the channel brother.
that win wing throttle is THE most beautiful thing I've seen
I must obtain one
I liked the clicking of the mouse
I use a blue yeti microphone too. I recommend a foam cover to cut down on echo and distortion. As far as background noise like the keyboard the only solution I've found is to be closer to the mic. Love the channel!
It's definitely true, so far, that its just too easy to lose a bandit dog fighting with VR. It happens for me all the time. I look away from the target for a second, look back and I've lost him. Compared to a 4K monitor, theres just no comparison, so I have both. Carrier operations and CAS, VR all day, dog fighting or online, TrackIR.
Im just getting started and I have both vr and track ir and I prefer vr over trackir any day. I feel like in trackir its a lot easier and more intuitive to look around. Also it feels a lot easier to just understand what your aircraft is doing. Like if its upside down sidesways or whatever else. On the monitor it feels alot more difficult for me. I have the reverb g2 and a 4k monitor and they both look the same interms of clarity
You can zoom in in vr
Where do you keep your F-14?
A M in the garage beside the F-18
@@GrowlingSidewinder And between the F16
@@GrowlingSidewinder here in my garage
with my brand new f-14
@@FoxWithTheAngels *I read a new manual every day*
You're the man! I say no more!!! Amazing setup brother!! Cheers buddy!
thanks Daniel. hope you're doing well boss.
Great setup, thanks for the tips! For those on a tight budget, the affordable Saitek X52 Pro HOTAS has a kind of soft, micro-joystick on the throttle (I call it the clitoris, but that's just me!), just under your left thumb. It's actually a mouse, i.e. it allows you to control the pointer. So if you map that to the rotation of the camera, you can use it as a built-in TrackIR of sorts.
Clearly, it's nowhere near as good as a real TrackIR, but it's already there on the HOTAS, and it's way better than nothing.
I’d love you to talk over my art videos dude like a narration. Holy shit your voice is relaxing dude.
lolol thanks bro I didnt know people thought that about my voice until I started this channel. its very interesting for me
Growling Sidewinder haha yes mate your like the badass version of richard Attenborough 🤣😂🤣 👍👍
EXACTLY
Great vid. The dogfight bits at the 6 minute mark look fantastic, a lot of saturation and clarity, like in a real sunny, crisp day. Do you happen to have a video about your DCS Graphics config? That would be very nice.
I highly rec Buttkickers. I have one attached to my seat and one for my TM rudder pedals. They provide much needed feedback and rumble. They really shine with the warbirds and according to how you adjust them can rattle your teeth when you open up those engines.
Could you go through your TrackIR settings when you get a chance?
great question and we all need that.
thank you really much, I wanted to start dcs but I didn't had a vr ready laptop and I didn't knew track ir was existing. thanks you
I like that your room is clean, not the standard gamer filth everywhere.
lol thanks man, I do try to keep shit clean around here.
Nice setup. I see a lot of simmers now, doing it as desk work. When I first fot into IL-2 ( the original series) there was a modular/packable cockpit called the "ABC" SIMPIT... ( Aker Barnes cockpit) it's cheap, do at home, and is loosely modeled after the F-16 cockpit. May be a little old school today, but I enjoyed it immensely. I plan on making another one again. Figured I'd share. You can still get plans for free, from thier website.
Your setup looks impressive! I really like the channel and how you educate very novice armchair fighter pilots (like me ). Keep making videos!!
I’d say the guy that thumbs down is suffering from severe jealousy disorder. So do I actually but I love this Chanel so much I can’t help but hit the like. It’s almost automatic now.
thanks lee, I appreciate the support brother.
Growling Sidewinder 👍👍👍👍
that's a pretty nice setup you got there GS.Thanks for getting the best for us.I love it.
I am playing with Rift S and it's a great experience but looking over your shoulder at your six can be a challenge in VR - Agree that it's tough with the resolution to see aircraft and missiles. I'll give DCS a go with Track IR. Keep up the great work on the channel.
Pretty high chance your opinion might change once you get a vr headset. Hopefully the index, that way you can use the pass thru camera in order to look at your throttle.
Great video, Just got the Thrustmaster Warthog stick and throttle. The WinWing throttle looks nice too! I need to move my off of my desk through ..
I Have noticed some gamers have the Computer laying on the side of the desk. Not a problem. But, it is laying flat on the carpet...
I am sure you have a good cooling system, but it would be way more efficient if you had the computer On top of two 2x4s or something... To create airflow underneath...In my opinion.. Love your videos and commentaries man :).... and those Graphics. OMG! Eye candy.
This is a super old video the computer wasn’t on the floor for long
I’ll have a new video out soon and show it off but ya pretty dumb back then to put it on the floor like that
All that hardware and the DCS world is presented in a tiny 2d rectangle... miniature compressed imagery!
Technically gpu renders 3d image and sends it to monitor
@@shadowguardian3612 yes but CPU single core does the left and right image calculation for VR and that is a massive bottleneck. Nvidia GPUs have vr acceleration to do this... single pass stereo. It's not something that happens just because the GPU draws the image. That's not the same at all. Single pass stereo is specifically to make VR rendering faster and it's something that has to be coded into the game.
Awesome set-up bro! Thanks for sharing. Happy hunting.
Now this is dedication 🔥🔥
VR is getting really good! you may dump the track ir in the near future!
VR Means a better GPU so it’s not a good investment, at least for now
A/N Turbobusa oh I know I’m up to a 2080ti now but it looks great
Wow amazing setup....... Thanks for sharing it with us....
VERY IMPRESSIVE. YOUR THE MAN LOVE YOUR VIDEOS.
Did you pick up an oculus quest or other vr headset? Once you go VR, everything else is subpar. Sure, there is a learning curve, binding buttons, setting up voiceattack, but VR is the way to go
beautiful set up! wish i could affort such a hotas set up. although im pretty happy using the TM16000 you mentioned as well.
Why not the track clip pro? I bought a bundle with track ir + track clip pro and tried both - the cap thing and track clip pro. From my experience with both, track clip pro is definitely more precise and less buggy.
I have both. Don't like the additonal cord hanging from my head, and they dont fit my good headphones.
Sweet Setup....I fly with Pimax 5k+...although not Perfect VR is a Must for me now.
Very nice setup mate, I'm hoping to get my hands on a winwing soon, looking forward to seeing some reviews first.
Good morning I have been out of gaming for around a decade because of work and family. Now that i'm retired i built a new pc before finding DCS. Had i found DCS earlier i would have bought different components, oh well. I have enjoyed watching your channel and was wounding what monitor you use? I was also curious on the best way to learn to use DCS? i have found it to be very complicated or is it because i have been out of the loop for so long! lol Anyway thank you for your time looking forward to more videos.
Nice set up... My gaming PC is a 2019 8700k.... I'm using Logitech X-56 throttle and stick and rudder pedals.... My monitor is a Asus 27" 2560x1440... I had track 5 ir pro... I could get it to track to my liking it was very jittery. And very hard to fly... I messed with the settings for hrs... Could get it to my liking so I sent it back... I'm looking into Oculus rift s....
Couldn't get the track 5 ir pro.
I want to see you play War Thunder Sim battles. It would be delicious to see you frag entire teams with your level of skill 😉
Can ya do a vid on how you have the warthog bound ingame? would be very interesting to see how you do it. Love the vids man you're amazing.
Thanks for all the great Videos,
one question I do have, what monitor or monitors would you recommend for DCS ?
It would be nice to see a review of sticks in 2-3 price ranges.
The Thrustmaster 16000m I went to look for it, you said it's 50 bucks, for me it's 2.699. Gotta love Brazil...
Loved the vid and all your videos. You didn't mention your monitors and what resolution you use. I would be interested in that info.
thanks man, i'm using 1080p on both 40inch TVs
I fly better in VR when it comes to refueling and landing because of the depth perception. I mostly use trackIR with a 4k monitor though, for various reasons. Once the HP Reverb 2 comes out, I will likely get one and switch to VR full time, because ultimately I prefer it.
Nice set up
Ty for all the content!! Sooo cool !!
Nice video! IIRC you have a rudder pedal set right? What happened to that?
Thank you for your take on VR vs TrackIR. I was wondering if you had any thoughts on comparing the two, glad I stumbled on it.
Very cost effective rig dude! 👍
The new G2 Reverb is coming out in just a couple of days. That is twice the resolution of the Rift S. I returned my Rift S and is waiting for the Reverb
And my wife gets mad when I do tournament mode on extreme golf 😂
Thanks in advance for all the videos I have learned a lot just watching them.
Wanted to ask you at which resolution do you play? 1080 1440 or higher?
I heard that at 1080 You can spot better your contacts on the screen that a higher resolution.
Thanks again.
Good stuff! Throw some VR at it and see how the rig does......
Very satisfied with your video. It confirmed a lot of my own opinions. I'm curious about your pedals? I think I hate mine.
Meanwhile here I am very excited to get the T16000M haha. Anyways it's enough for me to have some fun in DCS
Wow
I just got the newer Logitech x56 hotas and love it, coming from an old saitek 290 joystick. I need to figure out a way to mount it without it permanently being in the way when I use the PC for other things. I prefer the stick in the middle, but right now running it on the right side, so I pull to the left a lot when using elevator.
im wanting to get into DCS badly..... i obviously have alot to learn
Ok, I know this is asking a lot but maybe one day you could do a comparison of VKB Gunfighter (with MCG Pro grip) vs Virpil Mongoose T-50CM2. Bonus points for including extension and desk mounts in the review (Virpil has both, VKB has extension but mounts are coming soon).
damn , this guy can fly real plane if he try .
for VR check out the HP Reverb best resolution on the market for the price.
Thanks for the video!
I know this video is a year old so might be irrelevant. If you haven't yet you need to retry vr I highly suggest the hp reverb g2 the resolution and clarity is on point, you would end up needed a higher end pc though
bro plays with 2 throttles, nice
Very cool setup. Would love to see a similar video about your editing software, and about your process for planning your videos out and your editing process. May sound lame, like I'm trying to steal all your secrets, but the truth is, I'm lame and am trying to steal all your secrets. Might as well steal from the best right?
thanks buddy, message me on discord man, id be happy to tell you everything you'd like to know. I have no problems teaching stuff to anyone who is genuinely interested, and wants to put it to use.
@@GrowlingSidewinder Thank you so much. I'm going to try some stuff you and others have suggested and then hit you up with some questions later? Appreciate your willingness to help. I really am surprised how open and helpful this community is. Not so in my 9 to 5.
@@themisadventuresofsinjinsm2331 ya man no problem i'm happy to help anywhere I can, when you hit me up on discord just make sure you tell me its you (if your discord name is different) I look forward to chatting with you brother. take care.
Nice setup!!
I`m impressed.
What size monitors do you use? Any comments as for resolution or the new wide screen curved ones? Thanks, I enjoy your well made videos.
i dont understand the need to have trackir unless you have to look around in a very dense cockpit with a big frame like the f-14b in formation flying, other than that i just use my mouse and the two side buttons to control throttle, works pretty awesomely for me to say the least.
Which rudder pedals do you use?
Nothing I’ve thrown at it that it can’t handle. Microsoft flight sim 2020 let me introduce myself.
Please go with the Oculus Rift S when you plan to get VR. It's 2160x1440 resolution display and it's amazing in DCS especially in the Viper's Bubble Canopy
ya when I do go for VR thats the one i'd like to go for
I definitely prefer the VR experience, but I find the fatigue really limits how much you can play with it.
How long have you been using VR? In the beginning I would start feeling a little dizzy after 15 minutes. After a year using it I felt no fatigue at all. Even after sim racing for 6 or 7 hours.
@@JonasRosenven Going on two years. Dizziness isn't a problem anymore, I just can't deal with having a screen pressed against my face.
Awsome video partner. Yea those clicks on TacView where pretty annoying so the silent mouse is good shit. I know this problem, i use a great microphone myself so. Yea other than that the Warthog stick cost about 700 dollars in Iceland, including the throttle so there you got that. Awsome video man, great to see your set up. Thank you.
very cool
I wish you would do warthog configs you use for different planes
lets just put the pc on the carpet that's always a great spot
VR resolution is now high enough with ~2k x 2k per eye on stuff like oculus quest 2, hp reverb g2, and pimax 8k x
Hi Mr Sidewinder,
Could you publish a bibliography of some of the reading material you've used to understand air combat please?
got the exact same worldmap table mat and keyboard combo as me hah
love your videos. what are your trackir settings?
Do you think a screen size is critical for TrackIR and flying in general? E.g. if I have a 17 inch gaming laptop, will working with TrackIR be as convenient as with the 27 inch one? I'm currently playing with head tracking via Web cam. It works decently if the sensitivity is reduced. But I feel that I don't naturally need to turn my head so much, I can see all the screen from standard position. Is it something you also have with larger screens or is it more natural with them?
Why is growing sidewinder so good? Oh...
Because in fly like ever day in dcs against different people against different planes in different planes. So he has a lot of training....
Thank you for info ,
Quite surprised how you don't have any form of VR even if it was "just" an oculus rift s, i will never go back to flat screen except for learning and assigning controls. You already have everything you need, the rig, the accessories that make VR so good. You could probably even push a Reverb, it's just not the same vs flat. Even though you mention it, did you actually play in VR before dismissing it ? The spatial awareness cannot be simulated with trackIR, not a chance.
Spotting is definitely an issue, but we're having options with almost no screendoor (reverb), plus you can zoom in VR if necessary.
Darkgalahad yes I've tried VR I'm srsly considering getting back into it only for the immersion. I 100% agree it can not be matched by a flat monitor. I'm just waiting for the resolutions to go up a bit more before I play only VR.
@@GrowlingSidewinder Just to be absolutely sure, did you play with the reverb ? You can skip the oculus and oculus S completely, currently with your rig you have the perfect setup to just utilize the insane resolution of a reverb (NO discernible screendoor effect anymore), IF you don't care for roomscale since the controllers are complete trash ( i personally don't care for it and own all 3 rift versions). Plus the price is now affordable here (about 600$)
Darkgalahad no I hadn't tried that one ill look into it man I want to get into it sometime this year just gotta put together the money. Thanks for the tips and ya I was a little worried my computer wouldn't be able to handle it but that's good news I'll look into it.
Nice.. Those don't look regular PC screens so what TV monitors are you using there? what are their refresh rate and resolutions?
What size screens are those? 32s?
So I’m torn, my question is, how do check your 6 with track ir? Are u turning your hat? I would think vr would be easier in that aspect butni may be uneducated lol
If your Track IR setup isn't wireless, consider the Lukas Clip. Velcro-ed in place on a Wireless Headset, the Lukas Clip is rechargeable, and lightweight as well. The Track IR sensor captures the head movement and is set up in the TIR software as a Track Clip Pro.
what are your in game settings? could you please make a video on these
great video...I am moving soon from FSX to DCS..So what you recomend TRACKIR or VR? thank you
Depends. VR will put you in a other dimension but its quite expensiv and you will ne a very strong pc to get the most out of it. The HP reverb G2 is the best headset for dcs currently. Headtracking is way more cheaper and you dont need a strong pc to enjoy it. Also its easier to use because you dont have to look in all direction like you would do with a Vr headset. Btw I dont recommend you TrackIr, its to overpriced. Get the DelanClip instead or build yourself a IR headtracker. There are plenty of do it yourself headtracker tutorials on RUclips. I for example made my own headtracker for like 20$
@@Mike_Romeo Hey Mike...thank you very much for your answear..always 3 greens
Thank you