As a rider of the last leg days of the R40 cars on the Sea beach and canarsie. I am proud to see someone do a good review. You should have did some detail on the signs when they swapped to the 80s Signs how they were black and white on the sides due to the cheap transit remakes.
I do remember these having the most uncomfortable seats of any subway car. The new design included a lower beltline and taller windows all around, resulting in shorter seatbacks. It did introduce those big colorful route designations that would fill one front end window. You could read it from an entire platform length's distance.
The R40 slants entered service when I was in the 3rd grade back in March 1968. A kid in my class described the slanted ends by bending his hand down and I disbelieved him. Then a couple of months later while at Nathans in Coney Island, I spotted the R40s rounding the curve departing Stillwell Ave terminal.
I loved the original R40s, they came into use at a time I was riding them frequently when I and friends came to NYC from the suburbs. After leaving for college I spent less time on the subway, but after seven years out of NYC, My wife and I moved along the route of the Queens Blvd line used by the Es and Fs. The are 40As were very popular with us as our apartment had no central air and only one window unit in a bedroom. In the hot nights of the summer not having much money we would ride them into Manhattan and down to lower Manhattan where we would take the ferry to Staten Island and back. By then our apartment would have cooled down and we'd go home. It was not the best time to live in Rego Park as it was the time of the Son of Sam so we were always careful to wait for a crowd to exit the subway so we could all walk together. Lowey is also known for the the design of the GG! an incredible locomotive, as well as the Studebaker Avanti. Given your age these would be things your grandparents would remember.
When I was a kid, I always used to think it was weird and very ugly looking subway cars. I used to ride on them on the "B" line and always remembered that they broked down alot.
When i was a kid, i really love the r40's. They're the best nyc subway train cars i've ever seen and existed. However, they're actually also the scariest looking trains i've ever seen. As a kid, i always imagined that the front of the r40 look like an evil face because of the windows, the skinny door and those anticlimbers things. To me, the windows look like a pair of mildly sinister eyes, the skinny door look like a long rectangular tiki nose and those anticlimbers things look like a pair of sharp pointy thorny cheeks. So there, these are my thoughts of the r40's.
Goodmorning And Thank-you for the history lesson for the R-40 A/Bs . In there running day's they where good Running car like R-32/R-38 with Good heat and seating 💺for passangers!!! But as the time went on the had strated to age !!!
The artist rendition was actually bolder than the R40 slant. This car was stunning back in 1968 when it was introduced on the F and then later on the E. It did not have a bullet, originally. It had a big F or E on it and the F was a magenta color, not orange like today, and the E was a lighter blue. What was also striking about it, beyond the slant, was how large the side windows were and the door's windows. The rebuild completely screwed it up with the standardized short window doors that looked terrible on these trains. The original slants also had a thin dark blue line on them, that also made them look unique. They totally made the R32 and R38 look obsolete, though some aspects of their interior weren't that different. The R42 M was more conservative looking. But it led to the look of the R44, R46, R68, R62 trains that lasted until the R143s came along. Most trains in the 60s had aqua blue interiors. The bland beige walls and black seats in the rebuild also were not an improvement. Some of the slants had a/c, some didn't.
I think the R40s can make a 4-car train by using both slant-ended cars as the end cars and the R40M/R42 be in the middle. 2022 edit: the R40s from the ToMM and the preserved R40M-R42 pair could work as a 4-car consist. But they might replace the metal rods that are in place on the said pairs with couplers. Consist: R40 slant (facing forwards) R40 flat (facing backwards) R42 (facing forwards) R40 slant (facing backwards) The consist is arranged like this so that the cabs aren’t in weird positions. Also, if they still have some R40s, R40Ms, and R42s. They could create an 8-10 car consist. Like some sort of special train like the ToMM and ToMC.
The R160 replaced the R38s, R40s, and R44s. The R179 replaced some of the R32s, and all R42s. The R211 will replace the R46, the SIR R44s and all the remaining R32s
These are the most unique and infamous trains in the mta. Mainly because people get confused with mta and cta. And the r46 and r42 are confused mainly with the 2200 series CTA which is irritating as hell. But the r40 is left behind because it is one of the only slanted north American subway cars out there.
The slants attained a nickname immediately upon delivery 'Ubangi Lip'. Please google that if you want to lol on the floor. For a while before the defacement of the slant ends, the end doors between different pairs were locked.
The R40 slant design is like it space ship from out of space the slanted look still can be safe as long taller deeper padded handles installed between cars too, more other cars should had been persevered too, $399.000 overhaul rebuild must have a lifetime and it’s such a waste for reefs!
First, how about a video on the R-16 cars. Next, the R-40's were fast, and they were an interesting design. However, the R-40's left a bit to be desired in the area of reliability, after their rebuilding in the 80's. At the time there wer
I rode the R40 slants when I was a kid. One problem was the seats. They were almost completely flat with no support for your buttocks, so on a tight curve, I would find myself sliding off the seat. The straight-ended R40s didn't have those flat seats, nor did any other subway cars past or present that I ever rode. You can google for pictures of the R40 slant interiors so you can see what I mean.
I hated working on the R40S when we had them on the W. Roof leaked into the cabs and was dangerous when it was near the 600V panel. Water and electricity dont mix well.
R40S of the school cars should have remained perminatly after retirement from passenger service even preserving to the museum car collections too, other than having one pair, sooner in the future there going have an upcoming solutions for subway car groups!
To be honest, the MTA could potentially remake the R40S, just maybe not an R40 and maybe with the gangways we see on the newest trains, just instead it is narrowed to fit
Fyi Railfan the year is 1969 As the Modified R40 is the identical twin of the R42 was in service by 1970 as a youth riding them in 1975 on LL line used see a lot of them on the A AA B CC D E EE F GG M QJ QB RR which had wider end doors to the narrowed R40 and the Mod R40 some transit buff people use to call them the three stooges 😊🎉 my opinion the R40s were super fast going across The Rockaways inlet
@@TRRailfan also could you make a history of the R62 and R62A fleet and possibly the R211? or the M1 or M2 or M3 lol im not sure but def not the the trashy lemons or the r143 or somthing like that like NTT but i think you already did i also really want a video about the r36s, and other redbirds also the world fair i dont know what else because its prob to much but im just gonna suggest
I rode on the non slant front version on the J train. I honestly never liked them they looked like rusty old tin cans. Were they not stainless steel? I actually like the original slant design too bad I never had a chance to ride on one :(
@@TRRailfan R42s really are a modified/slightly updated R40M. Significant subway cars from the 60s are the R32s but just for longevity and not design, R40 slants, R44 (really a big deal when it first appeared at 75 feet and had an interior like no other subway before it and also much quieter than predecessors) and I think the R143s. The 68s are like R44s with silver walls and their own cabs in each car. The R160/R179 are modified R143s and even to some degree the R211s are modified/updated R143s. The A division I think the R62 and R142s are the significant ones in terms of making an impact in bringing in a new generation of cars for the A division.
interesting video but you could have talked more about its service history (which lines it served in what periods). I've heard people say that these cars were especially fast, but that was not something I noticed back then (I just turned 14 when the last one ran). By "fast," was it in terms of maximum speed or rate of acceleration?
No idea about the acceleration but the top speed of every subway car is 55 MPH. This video was a long time ago so not as good as today. Check one of my recent history videos. Thanks for the sub!
I was told by an Employee volunteering on a Holiday Train (R1-9) that the R1-9's are the fastest on the system owing to the lack of governors or speed controls. They say the Arnine train outruns the signals continually.
R40 slant became very rusty like the whole body between 2008-2009 that's why it retired. Same goes to R38. Btw why did the R40M retire? they weren't rusty or were they? 🤔
@BrightonExpQ wouldn’t they still be just as used? They would still run just as many miles, but spread out over more runs rather than a few longer runs.
There were many Redbirds, some definitely were originally painted red, but as far as I know only R33WF cars were painted blue for the world’s fair “blue arrow” service.
OH MY GOD WHAT WAS I THINKING I SKIPPED THE OVERHAUL???
F**k you
Jk
history of the r110b car
I will fix this, TrainRider Railfan!
TrainRider sorry for that you skip the overhaul
Lmfao 😂
As a rider of the last leg days of the R40 cars on the Sea beach and canarsie. I am proud to see someone do a good review. You should have did some detail on the signs when they swapped to the 80s Signs how they were black and white on the sides due to the cheap transit remakes.
Cody Winters Glad you liked it, thanks for the feedback!
I saw a R40 slant when I was 3 years old in 2009
R160 M train Productions Is the best I probably did too but I sadly don’t remember 😢
@@delphineprotopapas3931 okay
cool
I do remember these having the most uncomfortable seats of any subway car. The new design included a lower beltline and taller windows all around, resulting in shorter seatbacks. It did introduce those big colorful route designations that would fill one front end window. You could read it from an entire platform length's distance.
The R40 slants entered service when I was in the 3rd grade back in March 1968. A kid in my class described the slanted ends by bending his hand down and I disbelieved him. Then a couple of months later while at Nathans in Coney Island, I spotted the R40s rounding the curve departing Stillwell Ave terminal.
I loved the original R40s, they came into use at a time I was riding them frequently when I and friends came to NYC from the suburbs. After leaving for college I spent less time on the subway, but after seven years out of NYC, My wife and I moved along the route of the Queens Blvd line used by the Es and Fs. The are 40As were very popular with us as our apartment had no central air and only one window unit in a bedroom. In the hot nights of the summer not having much money we would ride them into Manhattan and down to lower Manhattan where we would take the ferry to Staten Island and back. By then our apartment would have cooled down and we'd go home. It was not the best time to live in Rego Park as it was the time of the Son of Sam so we were always careful to wait for a crowd to exit the subway so we could all walk together. Lowey is also known for the the design of the GG! an incredible locomotive, as well as the Studebaker Avanti. Given your age these would be things your grandparents would remember.
Damn that’s kinda smart
When I was a kid, I always used to think it was weird and very ugly looking subway cars. I used to ride on them on the "B" line and always remembered that they broked down alot.
When i was a kid, i really love the r40's. They're the best nyc subway train cars i've ever seen and existed. However, they're actually also the scariest looking trains i've ever seen. As a kid, i always imagined that the front of the r40 look like an evil face because of the windows, the skinny door and those anticlimbers things. To me, the windows look like a pair of mildly sinister eyes, the skinny door look like a long rectangular tiki nose and those anticlimbers things look like a pair of sharp pointy thorny cheeks. So there, these are my thoughts of the r40's.
Goodmorning And Thank-you for the history lesson for the R-40 A/Bs . In there running day's they where good Running car like R-32/R-38 with Good heat and seating 💺for passangers!!! But as the time went on the had strated to age !!!
The artist rendition was actually bolder than the R40 slant. This car was stunning back in 1968 when it was introduced on the F and then later on the E. It did not have a bullet, originally. It had a big F or E on it and the F was a magenta color, not orange like today, and the E was a lighter blue. What was also striking about it, beyond the slant, was how large the side windows were and the door's windows. The rebuild completely screwed it up with the standardized short window doors that looked terrible on these trains. The original slants also had a thin dark blue line on them, that also made them look unique. They totally made the R32 and R38 look obsolete, though some aspects of their interior weren't that different. The R42 M was more conservative looking. But it led to the look of the R44, R46, R68, R62 trains that lasted until the R143s came along. Most trains in the 60s had aqua blue interiors. The bland beige walls and black seats in the rebuild also were not an improvement. Some of the slants had a/c, some didn't.
I kind or like the old R40’s but I also like the R40 (slant)
I think the R40s can make a 4-car train by using both slant-ended cars as the end cars and the R40M/R42 be in the middle.
2022 edit: the R40s from the ToMM and the preserved R40M-R42 pair could work as a 4-car consist. But they might replace the metal rods that are in place on the said pairs with couplers.
Consist:
R40 slant (facing forwards)
R40 flat (facing backwards)
R42 (facing forwards)
R40 slant (facing backwards)
The consist is arranged like this so that the cabs aren’t in weird positions.
Also, if they still have some R40s, R40Ms, and R42s. They could create an 8-10 car consist. Like some sort of special train like the ToMM and ToMC.
theoretically yes but it would have to be done in the shops since separating cars from their mates is pretty difficult.
@@TRRailfan Oh ok. But still very cool idea.
One of your sources for pictures, Khalis Ward, is a good railfan friend of ours and works for the NJT Hudson-Bergen Light Rail line as an Operator.
Great job ! Enjoyed the quick history lesson . I remember when they cam out .
Well done young man
3:10 all of those trains you put were my favorites except for the R44
Idk why but the intro is so freaking good 👍
Great video! Maybe try doing the history of the R32s, as they'll become history soon, with the R179s returning to service.
I sort of already did? Not as in-depth as this one though
based R40 Slant video fucking giga chad move
The slants would be a great way to get people to not walk between cars.
How?
@@TRRailfan Since the MTA says they don't want people walking between cars, why not just use the famous design that does not allow people to do that?
WillF40PH how does that design not allow them to do that?
@@TRRailfan It was dangerous to walk between the cars due to the slanted ends.
WillF40PH LMAOOO yeah, but that would cause a lot of lawsuits
3:08 The R160 Replaced:
2009: R38s & R40s
2010: NYCTA R44s
2019: R42s
R179 Replaced:
2020/2021: R32s & SIR R44s
The R160 replaced the R38s, R40s, and R44s. The R179 replaced some of the R32s, and all R42s. The R211 will replace the R46, the SIR R44s and all the remaining R32s
@@Bombardier2199 R32s are now replaced by the R179. They are only emergency trains now and their status is retired.
@@Bombardier2199 Most R42s were replaced by R160 (including all Coney Island cars and all but 50 MK rebuilds).
These are the most unique and infamous trains in the mta. Mainly because people get confused with mta and cta. And the r46 and r42 are confused mainly with the 2200 series CTA which is irritating as hell. But the r40 is left behind because it is one of the only slanted north American subway cars out there.
Don’t forget about the RTA’s slants!
1:23 what a nice picture
Thinks thats Smith 9th street
Do a train talk about all the MTA trains and how they were build and replace. Or do a playlist of where you talk about all the MTA trains
you make great videos man
I remember when the slants were new.
The slants attained a nickname immediately upon delivery 'Ubangi Lip'. Please google that if you want to lol on the floor. For a while before the defacement of the slant ends, the end doors between different pairs were locked.
I still miss the R40 subway Trains on the A And B N Q F LINE in New York city
The R40 slant design is like it space ship from out of space the slanted look still can be safe as long taller deeper padded handles installed between cars too, more other cars should had been persevered too, $399.000 overhaul rebuild must have a lifetime and it’s such a waste for reefs!
Fun fact Lowry was the same guy who designed the famous PRR GG1
Cool the R40 slants are my favorite
I love R40 Subway Car
First, how about a video on the R-16 cars. Next, the R-40's were fast, and they were an interesting design. However, the R-40's left a bit to be desired in the area of reliability, after their rebuilding in the 80's. At the time there wer
e a good number on the Brighton line, and I am sorry to say the service suffered.
I rode the R40 slants when I was a kid. One problem was the seats. They were almost completely flat with no support for your buttocks, so on a tight curve, I would find myself sliding off the seat. The straight-ended R40s didn't have those flat seats, nor did any other subway cars past or present that I ever rode. You can google for pictures of the R40 slant interiors so you can see what I mean.
There's a typo. It says "NCYTA" instead of "NYCTA".
Haha you’re right
Oh wait it’s you
My favourite trains are the R40 slant R32 r 179 red bird blue bird.
I hated working on the R40S when we had them on the W. Roof leaked into the cabs and was dangerous when it was near the 600V panel. Water and electricity dont mix well.
The 60s fleet really was falling apart towards the end of their lives(except for the R32s)
Swell vid! When does the Train of many metals take place?
Usually some time in the summer although I'm not sure if it's happening this year.
They had no rail fan windows, only end door windows. The R1 thru R9 subway trains had rail fan windows beside the 3nd seat opposite the motormans cab.
thx for the history
How about the evolution of NYC's turnstiles & iron maiden gates ???
You should do an analysis on the 211s when they come
G. Lee Yeah I hope he does! I can’t wait for them to come
Sure, i'll do it!
@@TRRailfan The R211A/S/T Will be released in 2021
I doubt it
@@TRRailfan im not joking
Love your intro
thanks!
R40S of the school cars should have remained perminatly after retirement from passenger service even preserving to the museum car collections too, other than having one pair, sooner in the future there going have an upcoming solutions for subway car groups!
Nice video! You should do a video on the R32s and 42s those aren’t going to be in service soon
Maybe if i have the time to.
Also R44 on the SIR and the R46 on the NYCTA and SIR
Juan Dilone Video on their history?
My vid are comeing soon
No not yet
you should do the r42 and r46 subway cars
I’m working on some other videos now, my next history video is lower Manhattan subways and then R62s
2:58 OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOF
To be honest, the MTA could potentially remake the R40S, just maybe not an R40 and maybe with the gangways we see on the newest trains, just instead it is narrowed to fit
Please do the history of the R46 since it will not last long now.
I remember to
The R40Ms and R42s were not delivered with pantograph gates. Those were added in the 80s, IINM.
Rumored to be from retired R1-R9s in the late 70s.
Do the r142 and r142a history
@javy125 they were on the N Q R and W before the R160s R68 and R46s were purchased.
Fyi Railfan the year is 1969 As the Modified R40 is the identical twin of the R42 was in service by 1970 as a youth riding them in 1975 on LL line used see a lot of them on the A AA B CC D E EE F GG M QJ QB RR which had wider end doors to the narrowed R40 and the Mod R40 some transit buff people use to call them the three stooges 😊🎉 my opinion the R40s were super fast going across The Rockaways inlet
Great Video! Could You Make A Video about 42ndst (Lower Level) `abonaded stations history and remants maybe?
Well I can’t go there but I could probably make a quick video about it.
Thanks! Also Thanks for replying its ok
@@TRRailfan also could you make a history of the R62 and R62A fleet and possibly the R211? or the M1 or M2 or M3 lol im not sure but def not the the trashy lemons or the r143 or somthing like that like NTT but i think you already did i also really want a video about the r36s, and other redbirds also the world fair i dont know what else because its prob to much but im just gonna suggest
and could you do a history video of the V and the Brown M
@@TRRailfan im a idiot didnt see it lol you did redbirds
I rode on the non slant front version on the J train. I honestly never liked them they looked like rusty old tin cans. Were they not stainless steel? I actually like the original slant design too bad I never had a chance to ride on one :(
They were stainless steel for sure just not the ends
R40-R42 YAS BROTHER TRAINS edit:i notice the diffrents between R42 and R40m
wut is the difference
I will miss the R40S R40 R40M And R40As
Last one ive seen was in Queens Plaza on the N train
thanks man. could u make one for the r42s as well??
i could but these take ages to make and i have a lot of homework and such at the moment. maybe during christmas break
@@TRRailfan R42s really are a modified/slightly updated R40M. Significant subway cars from the 60s are the R32s but just for longevity and not design, R40 slants, R44 (really a big deal when it first appeared at 75 feet and had an interior like no other subway before it and also much quieter than predecessors) and I think the R143s. The 68s are like R44s with silver walls and their own cabs in each car. The R160/R179 are modified R143s and even to some degree the R211s are modified/updated R143s. The A division I think the R62 and R142s are the significant ones in terms of making an impact in bringing in a new generation of cars for the A division.
interesting video but you could have talked more about its service history (which lines it served in what periods). I've heard people say that these cars were especially fast, but that was not something I noticed back then (I just turned 14 when the last one ran). By "fast," was it in terms of maximum speed or rate of acceleration?
No idea about the acceleration but the top speed of every subway car is 55 MPH. This video was a long time ago so not as good as today. Check one of my recent history videos. Thanks for the sub!
They were no faster than any other train. I remember them when they were brand new and they were stunning to look at. They made a big impact.
I was told by an Employee volunteering on a Holiday Train (R1-9) that the R1-9's are the fastest on the system owing to the lack of governors or speed controls. They say the Arnine train outruns the signals continually.
By any chance did you ride the go train? In the intro
I rode all the trains in the intro immediately after the shots were taken, except the M3A, the SC-44, and the NIS R46.
Saw
the r32s came back for yard parking and came back to service in 2020
R40 slant became very rusty like the whole body between 2008-2009 that's why it retired. Same goes to R38. Btw why did the R40M retire? they weren't rusty or were they? 🤔
Just old. Probably unreliable in other ways, something on the inner workings that you can’t see.
@BrightonExpQ R40 or R40M?
@BrightonExpQ MTA shouldn't have put them on the A at all
@BrightonExpQ wouldn’t they still be just as used? They would still run just as many miles, but spread out over more runs rather than a few longer runs.
Please tell me what a "School Car" is? I'm dumb lol.
They use them to teach new drivers
@@TRRailfan ty
np
I like 2:35 and 2:41
Bro his channel Disney upload in 3 years
R22 plz
Are there any detailed paper models of those trains?
That's a really good question. I believe there are some of say the Redbirds or modern IRT cars, but something like the R40 would be very complex.
I’m a youtuber not lying too
please do the r33ml Redbirds
Sure redbirds are cool ill do that after the Budd Metropolitans.
TrainRider Railfan can u do the bluebird and explain that it was the redbird but due to the graffiti problem they repainted red for red birds please.
There were many Redbirds, some definitely were originally painted red, but as far as I know only R33WF cars were painted blue for the world’s fair “blue arrow” service.
Bluebirds also sometimes refers to old BMT Multi-Section cars
TrainRider Railfan Yes, I know because I really like trains and the MTA trains so I learned much about it
Like train
Do a r32 car video
HI
I don’t like how the BRT Canarsie Pier line was Removed
^^
There's something about new york city
History of the R188
The first air conditioned cars in the system
A B at Roosevelt Island??!!!
R32 History video at 2K
I have notice different Between R42s and R40ms now
Yes there are differences I know some but if you want a list look up “R40M R42 differences”
@@TRRailfan R40M storm door has a long window but R42 has small storm door window
R42s had longer windows before their GOH overhauls
@@TRRailfan im confused
@@TRRailfan wat
The thumbnail show an r40 a train covered in snow
CAN you do the history of the r42 sudway cars they have now retired
I’m working on a history video right now, I’ll do that after.
Ok
u should do the R127
you can do the lefferts blvd do the c train map to lefferts blvd
what
Whats the difference of the r40 and r42
Fluting on the sides is a bit different, also I think there is something with the storm doors
That’s a:46
what?
R42 isnt R40m lol
Or R46
what I’m confused what’s going on
@@TRRailfan weird
The R40S
Looks like a high speed train
Yeah. But the R44 was the high speed train. It was tested on the LIRR and went over 80 mph.
As a rider of the r46 cars they do have any air-conditioned on them
First
My r179 C train and r160 W train says they want more (they wont stop begging me)
whats the music at 0:01?
Journey 1 by Inshot
now r46 are in this
3:28. I wonder why they just throw the train in the ocean
It’s for artificial reefs
They put it in the ocean for the fish railfans
@@TRRailfan Fish rail fans? What’s that. Is I.t like railfaning but in the ocean
@@TRRailfan thx you for telling me. I’m a youtuber too
yes they throw the trains in the ocean for fish who want to see them
do the history of the r42
no
Why not
....
R40s exe
R46 cars
The R40 slant were ugly as hell!!! LMAO. I hated those trains. They were ALWAYS on the B, M and F lines!